Mike Luckovich

By The Real Andy

November 23, 2005 09:19 PM | Link to this

As I feared, cartoon boy’s pathological obsession with the Bush Administration has taken a turn for the worst. Now he is hallucinating about anti war demonstrations that don’t exist. Maybe he’s confused about the anti terrorist Zarqawi marches in Jordan? Either way, he really should seek help.

By RW-(the original)

November 23, 2005 09:21 PM | Link to this

ml, It sure would be nice if the Iraqis would add this to the December 15th vote.

You’re LLL fantasy that this is what they want would go down in flames just like Mothra’s pull out plan.

By The Real Andy

November 23, 2005 09:28 PM | Link to this

It’s a little prophetic but there is an article in National Review that touches on this very subject. It said that if 2 Iraqi citizens were to protest the Coalition presence they would have 1000 lib media cameras pointed at them that same day. No one would remember who Cindy Sheehan was within a week.

By *RW-(the original)*

November 23, 2005 09:28 PM | Link to this

You’re=Your, I don’t want to get the typo police in an uproar so early.

By RW-(the original)

November 23, 2005 09:33 PM | Link to this

Andy,

They are expecting two dozen here

How many would ml draw this into picture?

By The Real Andy

November 23, 2005 09:45 PM | Link to this

RW: Did you see the box of crayons he has drawn on the desk of the President of the United States, Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces? Now, tell me, what profession uses crayons in their line of work? Any guesses? Isn’t that bizarre?

By RW-(the original)

November 23, 2005 09:49 PM | Link to this

Andy,

In psychological terms I believe it’s called projection.

btw, you have a fan club forming on the dead thread.

By The Real Andy

November 23, 2005 10:01 PM | Link to this

RW: Here’s my theory on the crayons- Cartoon boy has to throw the red meat to the kook liberals, hence he dogs Bush out all the time. But, deep down, he sees Bush as a fellow cartoonist, a kind of a bond between them.

By RW-(the original)

November 23, 2005 10:21 PM | Link to this

Andy,

I think ml is suffering from moonbaticus.

He just can’t understand why the world doesn’t stop each day and wait for him to scribble out the next days instructions.

So he puts crayons on the desk of the man that can control events and pretends that it could be him.

Either that or he’s just a typical punk liberal.

By RW-(the original)

November 23, 2005 10:42 PM | Link to this

This is the AJC vent column for Thanksgiving day

Cynthia McKinney’s brother, aka The Vent Guy has definitely gone missing. It looks like the replacement tried to appease the libs toward the end, but closed strong.

By TrueConservative

November 24, 2005 04:18 AM | Link to this

Murthas plan was never voted on-

‘phased redeployment (over the next 6 months, or as safety dictates)of American troops elswhere in the middle east, establish a quick strike force (to aid the Iraqi military as necisary) and an over the horizon presence of marines (to help the Iraqi military maintain control) and allow troops to rotate home while we repair and regroup maintaining a large force in the middle east’ is not the same thing as ‘bring the troops home now’ While the GOP’s military strategy sux their pollitical stategy is wicked. This re-write is what the GOP twisted the plan into and called for a vote on the next day- thats so nobody on the right would read the plan and realize that it makes alot more sense than “stay the Course’ (which is not a strategy but 3 pollitically charged words)This worked beautifully- I been reading over Redstate.org and it looks as though alot of righties took the bait. ‘Murthas a coward”cut and run’ blah blah blah- these people have no idea what the man actually said…

BTW Murtha isnt a hero to the Left… hes just a Hero. Your beloved Reagan knew that and consistantly looked to Murtha for guidence on military matters, along with every other President for the past 30 years, and if I was President I would do more than shrug off the reccomendations of a retired 37 yr multi decorated marine Colonel. Murtha is the only one who has put forth a cohesive strategy in Iraq- so read it-

[http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/pa12_murtha/pr051117iraq.html]

By TrueConservative

November 24, 2005 04:21 AM | Link to this

ahem- Murtha’s Statement

By Walt

November 24, 2005 06:02 AM | Link to this

No one should be obsessed woth the Bush Administration, but everyone should work for the immediate impeachment of Bush and Cheney.

Walt

By Walt

November 24, 2005 06:02 AM | Link to this

No one should be obsessed wtth the Bush Administration, but everyone should work for the immediate impeachment of Bush and Cheney.

Walt

By For Pete's sake People....

November 24, 2005 06:18 AM | Link to this

GET A LIFE! GET OFF YOUR FAT ARSES, TURN OFF THE COMPUTER AND GET SOME SUN ON YOUR PASTY WHITE BODIES!!!!

By The Real Andy

November 24, 2005 06:50 AM | Link to this

I don’t know if it is possible for a pinko to be thankful but today you really should be. We live in the greatest nation on Earth, bar none. We have the strongest economy, the best health care and our military can take care of any tosspot dictator that comes down the line. We have given freedom to 200 million people in the former Soviet Union, 25 million people in the sovereign state of Iraq but there are many more who dream of living the Blessed lives that we take for granted. As you give thanks for the Blessings your Creator has bestowed upon you, pray for those that still live in tyranny; that they may too one day come to see their own shining city on the hill.

By gadem

November 24, 2005 07:21 AM | Link to this

Thanks TrueConservative, that was a good read. Never knew what Murtha actually said, only that he did not say immediate withdrawal of troops. I would suggest that everyone atleast skim it before calling him names.

By Rare

November 24, 2005 07:33 AM | Link to this

I find it really sad that someone who claims to be a Christian shows so much hate in their heart by calling those of us who don’t support bush’s policies “pinkos.”

As a U.S. Navy Veteran and a Christian, I find your statements quite offensive and it really shows how divided bush has made this country.

I’m thankful today that my right to speak out hasn’t been taken away by this administration, yet.

By The Real Andy

November 24, 2005 07:49 AM | Link to this

Rare: I found this in the pages of Merriam Webster-

pinko One entry found for pinko.

Main Entry: pinko Pronunciation: ‘pi[ng]-(“)kO Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural pink·os also pink·oes : a person who holds advanced liberal or moderately radical political or economic views

By hewhoasks

November 24, 2005 08:33 AM | Link to this

TrueConservative

Greetings to you on this Thanksgiving Day. What you write makes great sense, Murtha makes great sense. He writes and thinks as a military man, not as a pretender in th White HOuse. The Bush side is, when it comes to planning, “all hat and no cattle.” Supposedly three was an objective that could be satisfied by the use of the military - although what that objective was seems to change retroactively from time to time, with the change wrought by those who accuse Democrats of rewriting history. But an objective, let’s say there’s an objective.

But as soon as the military is in place, being used, the objective degenerates into “stay the course” - with no clear enunciation of what the underlying objective is. “Stay the course” and “show resolve,” with “show resolve” coming into play after some disasterous and unnecessary military move prompted by pressure from on high (that is, from the White House.) “Show resolve” is military action devoid of military objective: it’s the sacrifice of troops, enemies, and civilians in order to create an impression, an illusion - of “showing resolve.” It’s use of the military for propaganda. Fallujah, the on-again, off-again, on-again target is a particular example of “show resolve.” There, of course, the White House first stopped the troops when they had nearly secured the city, allowing the opponents to gather strength there. Then, the White House flip-flopped and said, no, forget that we said don’t take the city (after we said “take the city”), take the city.

Some resolve.

(Oh, yes, there is a “plan.” It’s the PNAC “rule the world” lunacy, it’s the “plan” embodied on the “National Security Strategy” on the White Hopuse web site: use the US military to force other countries to do what Bush says. A stupid, un-American plan - and it isn’t working. Can’t work. It is the “plan” that is lowering the power and prestige of the United States on a daily basis. The only Bush “plan” that is working is “if you are not for us you are against us.” The world is quietly adopting it, saying “The terms are acceptable. You want it, you got it. Against it is.”)

By The Real Andy

November 24, 2005 08:44 AM | Link to this

hewhoasks: The White House lets the commanders on the ground conduct the war. The President sets the objective which is to kill terrorists. This plan has you and the terrorists fooled. We show weakness in places like Fallajuh so that the terrorists will occupy these areas in strength; after a threshold is reached we engage the built up enemy and kill them like dogs. When they are all dead, we win. Pretty simple if you think about it.

By candide

November 24, 2005 08:45 AM | Link to this

Rare: Christianity has always been a good pretext for evil behavior.

ECRASONS L’INFAME!

By Dusty

November 24, 2005 08:52 AM | Link to this

Happy Thanksgiving, all. Nice message, Andy. I am thankful for our country, too, and specially thankful that we can sit around and fuss with each other on this blog. A young Marine, part of my extended family is coming today with his new bride. What fun! So have a good one. I’m ready for a special day and the sun is shining!

By The Real Andy

November 24, 2005 08:57 AM | Link to this

Dusty: Tell that soldier not to listen to these pinkos; We are behind him 100%.

By getalife

November 24, 2005 09:01 AM | Link to this

By For Pete’s sake People….

November 24, 2005 06:18 AM | Link to this

GET A LIFE! GET OFF YOUR FAT A**, TURN OFF THE COMPUTER AND GET SOME SUN ON YOUR PASTY WHITE BODIES!!!!

I wish I could but on Thankgiving Day 2005, I am thankful I am still alive. At the end of the day and I am still alive, it is a reason to celebrate. Thanks to all the people in uniform fighting for this country.

By candide

November 24, 2005 09:03 AM | Link to this

The use of the word “pinko” is a throwback to the days of the Cold War when our government fed us propaganda that we were the “free” world and the “godless communists” were our deadly enemies. All that was bull and our present conservatives are nostalgic for the good old days of anti-communist rhetoric and denunciation. A Fascist then, a Fascist now: you conservatives are Fascists in drag.

By RW-(the original)

November 24, 2005 09:30 AM | Link to this

It really makes no difference what Mothra put on paper in his “plan”, what matters is how his words to the press played in the press.

Al Jezeera (the real one not the AJC), The New York Times, and Washington Post all ran banner headlines that Mothra had called for an immediate pullout, so the vote against an immediate pullout had to be taken even though he didn’t have the courage of his convictions to put his words on paper.

I don’t expect moonbats to understand that, but deep down you should feel extra thankful that there are people that do.

Happy Thanksgiving all!!!

By m.

November 24, 2005 09:36 AM | Link to this

The ones who called themselves “communist ” during the cold war were really fascist.Kind of like those who call themselves liberals today are really communist.

By stillalivein05

November 24, 2005 09:47 AM | Link to this

It is good to see people in uniform sending greetings to their families and saying they will be home soon. Thank you Mr. Murtha.

By Joe Roman

November 24, 2005 10:39 AM | Link to this

It doesn’t matter whether we leave Iraq this afternoon or in twenty years. When we leave, some of the “Iraqi Army” will desert to the Sunni side. Some will desert to the Shiites. Some to the Kurds. Iraq will disintegrate. If we stay, all we do is sacrifice more American lives and more American taxpayer’s dollars. WE GAIN NOTHING! All the arguments for staying are merely echoes of the reasons given for staying in Vietnam. In Vietnam, we listened to those reasons. What did we get? Thousands of American lives were lost needlessly. South Vietnam collapsed in 1975-just the same as it would have done in 1969. The Communists did not take over southeast Asia, just as the Jihadis will not take over the middle east. And guess what, wingnuts??? AMERICA LOST NO “PRESTIGE”. We remained the most powerful country in the world and actually gained respect from the international community. Exactly the same things will occurr once we come to our senses and get the hell out of Iraq. Once we are gone, I welcome the chickenhawks to form volunteer groups and go fight for “Iraqi democracy” much as the leftists went to fight for the Republic in the Spanish Civil War of the 1930s. How many would do such a thing? I think zero is an accurate estimate.

By Conscientious Observer (C.O.)

November 24, 2005 10:44 AM | Link to this

I enjoy the he** out of this blog, but it would really be boring without Andy and R.W., it would be nothing more than pseudo-intellects stroking one another’s egos, stopping briefly to spew media propoganda and attack common sense.

By cutandrun

November 24, 2005 10:46 AM | Link to this

The caption to this cartoon should read I will not cut and run like my Daddy.

By RW-(the original)

November 24, 2005 10:52 AM | Link to this

Conscientious Observer (C.O.),

Thanks Mom!

I’ll be there soon.

By buff

November 24, 2005 11:02 AM | Link to this

Walt, make the case to impeach Bush. How would it be presented to Congress?

By The Real Andy

November 24, 2005 11:06 AM | Link to this

Conscientious Observer (C.O.): I know, aren’t these pinkos just so tedious. They post the same thing over and over. We should throw away 2100 lives and billions of dollars so that we look sweet for France. The Commies were misunderstood, they were really delightful people once you got to know them. Sigh.

By RW-(the original)

November 24, 2005 11:10 AM | Link to this

buff,

I predict that Walt will manage to get Bush and Cheney out of office on January 20, 2009.

Happy Thanksgiving, tell NeoReo to stay out of trouble.

By C.O.

November 24, 2005 11:17 AM | Link to this

I’m not worried son, you’ve always been quicker than the rest.

By buff

November 24, 2005 11:33 AM | Link to this

RW, thanks. NeoReo called about 6:15 this morning about a homebrewed beer recipe I gave him. Thankfully, he has decided not to blog here anymore. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.

By This Justin

November 24, 2005 11:36 AM | Link to this

Hey Andy, we should not pull out of Iraq to look sweet for France. We should pull out of Iraq to look sweet for Jesus.

By The Real Andy

November 24, 2005 11:51 AM | Link to this

Alright, fess up. How many of you pinkos are having tofu for dinner?

By C.O.

November 24, 2005 11:53 AM | Link to this

Real Andy:

Tell R.W. to bring you with him, we’ll have a meeting of the “real minds”. Gotta go, my dinner prep won’t get done without me kinda like the country can’t be safe with pacifists in the kitchen.

By TrueConservative

November 24, 2005 11:54 AM | Link to this

Andy- we have an awful lot to be thankful for but there is a difference between being thankful and sitting on your laurels talking about how perfect everything is (for you I guess) and calling anyone who seeks to improve our Great Nation a Pinko. One day we will be a shining city on a hill but that takes work. For once though I agree with almost everything you said. although- *60% of the population without any health coverage isnt the best health care in the world. I had to go to the hospital the other day and the guy who takes down insurance info said HE doesnt have any coverage either and that he rarely meets anyone who does. *while our economy has great ‘bounce back’ potential every economist ive heard from is terrified about its current state… of course the Corporations wont really suffer for that- just America (aka the People)

so while I agree with most of what you said-we have a lot to be thankful for, and I hope you are as thankful as I am- we have alot of work to do my fellow Americans

Happy Thanksgiving Andy and all and God Bless

By RW-(the original)

November 24, 2005 11:54 AM | Link to this

Andy,

A moonbat main course

Tofurky, it’s not just for Thanksgiving anymore.

By C.O.

November 24, 2005 12:37 PM | Link to this

R.W. & Andy:

No tofu or quiche served here. Main course “meat” PETA be da*%#d.

By buff

November 24, 2005 12:39 PM | Link to this

Today’s Bush-bashing by Looney-Tooney-Lucko is at least somewhat on target; good satire. Most of them are so out of the box that they are not funny, nor representative of actual political ongoings

By Tim

November 24, 2005 12:41 PM | Link to this

OK, I normally like Mike’s work, but there are no significant “US out!” demonstrations occurring in Iraq. There is enough going on in the world that Mike shouldn’t have to make things up.

By TS

November 24, 2005 12:58 PM | Link to this

Good post as usual ML.

(and of course the conservatives are in their usual defensive posture over monkey boy)

By Talon News

November 24, 2005 01:00 PM | Link to this

Its amazing how the liberal media has just fallen head over heels in love with this presidential turkey pardon every year. Why must the president in this case Bush bow down to lib lefty PETA every year?

If I am picked to ask a question at the next press conference it will be, “Mr President sir, instead of trying to please liberal PETA, why didn’t you just grab a Secret Service agents gun and just kill the turkey?” Pow.

Jeff O~O

By ohnoyoudidnt

November 24, 2005 01:19 PM | Link to this

Talon News, a conservative company whose Washington bureau chief and White House correspondent Jeff Gannon is well-known for asking loaded pro-Republican questions at White House press briefings, appears to be more a political organization than a media outlet.

What a loser, why did they shut your webste down wingnut?

By D'n

November 24, 2005 05:04 PM | Link to this

Any Mike that I look at and just laugh, is a Good Mike.

Tim’s comment was funny too: Mike’s point wasn’t that there are “any significant US-out demos” in Iraq, it was that SOME President is just so unaware of what’s what in any case. DUHbya..

By Harold and Marion Seim

November 24, 2005 08:00 PM | Link to this

cartoons are insightful,intelligent and up to the minute with today’s news-a pleaasure to read and we look forward to them-keep them coming-

By Eric

November 24, 2005 09:43 PM | Link to this

Why should anyone believe that any of you wingnuts know what is or is not going on in Iraq? There could be massive anti war demonstrations every single day and if you’re not there to see it in person, you’d never know. I think “Lucko, Cartoon Boy” is probably right on target. He usually is. Great job Mike. Happy Thanksgiving, Buddy!

By RW-(the original)

November 24, 2005 10:07 PM | Link to this

Eric,

ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, and FNC don’t have wall to wall coverage of Iraqi anti-war demonstrations.

The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, and the AJC don’t have six extra editions a day with 8” headlines screaming that massive demonstrations are going on in Iraq demanding that we leave.

The Al-Jezeera web site isn’t running an endless loop of throngs of protesters filling the streets of Baghdad demanding we leave.

The facts I’ve just listed are pretty solid proof that there are not massive anti-war demonstrations in Iraq, without having to be there to know that.

By The Real Andy

November 25, 2005 01:30 AM | Link to this

trueconservative: If you can’t afford healthcare, then you shouldn’t have it. Too bad for you (or them). That’s the free market at work. Pinkos have to realize that some (like me) are better off than others (like poor people without health insurance) and it will always be that way and it extends to everything, even healthcare. Healthcare isn’t cheap and shouldn’t be free, sorry folks, some of you are just out of luck. You get what you PAY for. It is not a right.

By Robert

November 25, 2005 06:40 AM | Link to this

I’m thinking the previous comments on the number of demonstrators pictured in Mike’s CARTOON brings such deliberated scrutiny by people who probably had no problem with an ARTIST’S RENDITION of mobile biological agent trucks used to justify, in the minds of some, the starting of war. I guess it all goes to prove the old statement akin to, “I don’t know what art is, but I know what I like when I see it”. To myself the number of protestors in Mike’s cartoon might be a visual representatation of the published numbers of Iraqi’s who when polled have said foriegn troops need to leave. Mostly because I’m thinking that mass protests and demonstrations are probably not part of the democratic freedoms enjoyed by the Iraqi citizens these days. I mean really, imagine yourself in a demonstration against an occupying army being surrounded by their armed vehicles.

By We're all clueless

November 25, 2005 06:20 PM | Link to this

If you think there aren’t massive anti-occupation protests in Iraq, you know too little about the situation to be competent in your criticisms. Read this http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40509-2005Apr9.html and then ask yourselves how you could be both so sure and yet so wrong…then ask why you support continuing the occupation, and if that is based in ACTUAL fact, or more typical unsubstantiated belief furthered by inaccurate right-wing rhetoric.

By RW-(the original)

November 25, 2005 07:21 PM | Link to this

Clueless,

One story from April, that The Washington Post found important enough to print on page A25 is your proof that day in and day out massive protests fill the streets demanding that we go home.

Maybe you should ask yourself a few questions.