Mike Luckovich

By candide

November 21, 2005 06:57 AM | Link to this

The GOP has never had any clothes. That has been the secret of its success but now will become the secret of its downfall. Unless the American public is even dumber than I have thought. After all, a people which so largely says it believes in the vicarious atonement wrought by the brutal killing of a deranged Jewish carpenter allegedly the son of God — well what can you expect from a people so deluded and so stupid?

As Voltaire said: Ecrasons l’infame! (For those of you still doing the O’Reilly boycott of France, this means Let us wipe out that infamous thing, namely Christianity.)

By Andy

November 21, 2005 07:21 AM | Link to this

I must bow to the vast intellect of the pinkos on this one. The depth of their unfathomable thought, their profound nuance, why, cartoon boy has displayed the full range of liberal wisdom.

Yeah, right. From now on, since Conservatives seem to have made themselves at home here in the land of the pinko, I will start offering an alternative cartoon so that y’all won’t be bored to freaking death by this lib.

A Real Cartoonist

By Anti

November 21, 2005 07:37 AM | Link to this

I find it amazing how Republicans think anyone who is against the war must also be against the troops. Case in point— Rep. Schmidt of Ohio and her attack on Rep. Murtha last week: “cowards cut and run, Marines never do.” Has Jean Schmidt ever been in the armed forces? No. Murtha sure has.

I have family currently serving in the armed forces. One is currently in his second rotation in the Middle East. He has told me the same concerns that Murtha did, that the Iraqis don’t want us there and that we need a better strategy to control the country. So, for all you righties that are going to post in complaint about Luckovich’s cartoon, how about laying off the “anti-troop” stuff, ok? The war is led by civilians, and that’s where the debate should focus—politician v. politician.

By George

November 21, 2005 07:39 AM | Link to this

Luckovich is just pointing out the obvious here. This cartoon would be really funny if it weren’t so true. Unfortunately, it has taken the American public quite a few years to take their blinders off to see that the emperor er president has no clothes.

By Andy

November 21, 2005 07:58 AM | Link to this

Yes, Ben, that’s what the pinkos want-

2.) It is not just a guess, but a certainty that if the U.S. were to abruptly withdraw from Iraq, as the Democrats are urging us to do, there would be a bloodbath in Iraq far worse than what we have seen so far. There would be outright civil war, large scale massacres of civilian populations beyond what we have seen by an order of magnitude, and a Middle East in chaos as Iran, the Kurds, and the Sunnis fought it out for land and oil and power. The word of the United States would be mud. Is this really what the Democrats want? Can they really contemplate with calm equanimity the mass murders that will follow a sudden U.S. withdrawal?— Ben Stein, AmSpec, 11/21/05

By buff

November 21, 2005 08:11 AM | Link to this

Candide, why do you hate Christians? If your hero Al Zarqawi is dead, what will you do? And, are you a relative of Cindy Sheehan?

By Mrs. Godzilla

November 21, 2005 08:30 AM | Link to this

Please sir, no more naked pictures of Bush so early in the morning. Couldn’t you just put him back in his flight suit?

By buff

November 21, 2005 08:34 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G. That is funny

By candide

November 21, 2005 08:44 AM | Link to this

Ecrason l’infame!

By candide

November 21, 2005 08:45 AM | Link to this

Ecrasons l’infame!

By Eric

November 21, 2005 08:54 AM | Link to this

Andy is nothing more than a sad reincarnation of Archie Bunker. The best reponse to his rediculous rants is no response at all. Since you can’t actually smell it, just ignore the garbage.

By gttim

November 21, 2005 08:58 AM | Link to this

Andy, quit your lying. But that would be hard for a wingnut, since that is all you have left. Murtha did not call for an immediate withdrawel. He called for a redeployment of forces, and wants a timetable. It is the GOP who used the word “immediate” and who introduced the bill in the House calling for the “immediate” withdrawel.

Funny, this weekend even Bush has finally come out said people who question him are not being unpatriotic, and are not undermining the troops. Didn’t you get the memo with the new talking points? Of course he still has his henchmen doing it. Since GOP Rep. Schmidt called a man who served 37 years in the Marine earning a Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts a coward and all hell broke lose, Bush has figured out that the old “unpatriotic” trick is no longer working and at least he better appear to be above that. The polls show his schtick has worn thin. He has no clothes.

Mike, do you think Bush has that much muscle tone? After all the drinking and drugging of his youth, and post youth, I do not think he does.

Bush’s Exit Strategy

By Andy

November 21, 2005 09:06 AM | Link to this

gttim: So are you with Cynthia McKinney that would she run screaming from Iraq or are you too much of a flip-flopping, pinko lib to form your own opinion?

Eric: Stifle yourself!

By hewhoasks

November 21, 2005 09:14 AM | Link to this

Well, Andy, it’s made clear again and again, when you and your ilk lie about the position of others, that the position you hold is indefensible. Murtha called for honesty, Murtha called for results, Murtha called for something other than a conflict going on forever.

As you’ve already been told, Murtha isn’t the one who introduced a resolution calling for immediate withdrawal, it was the Republicans. Rather than fulfill their duty as representatives of the Amercan people and engage in meaningful discussion and debate of our policy and actions they pulled a stunt. It is the Congress which has the power to declare war, it is the Congress which has the responsibility for war. But no, not the Republicans in Congress. They duck their clear duty under the Constitution and introduce a garbage resolution just for the propaganda effect. They are a disgrace to America.

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 09:15 AM | Link to this

Anti, for the record, Jean Schmidt didn’t make those statements. He was repeating what one of her constituents, who is a Marine, told her. Get your facts straight. The President yesterday said that criticism is okay. And it is. People have the right to question the way the war has been executed. What they don’t have the right to do is try and rewrite history, which is what some of the Dems are trying to do. I respect Rep Murtha, he is an honorable man. I happen to disagree with him, but that doesn’t mean I don’t respect him.

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 09:19 AM | Link to this

candide, you represent everything you claim to hate. All you do is spew hate. I guess the 50 million people that voted for Bush in 2004 were all dumb. Thats the typical elitist attitude that is killing the Democratic party

By Andy

November 21, 2005 09:20 AM | Link to this

hewhoasks: So do you believe that wars are won when Congress says they are or after we have killed or disbanded all of our enemies?

By buff

November 21, 2005 09:23 AM | Link to this

I like Archie Bunker

By Andy

November 21, 2005 09:28 AM | Link to this

Rasmussen: Bush job approval among military veterans at 60%.

Posted on 11/11/2005 2:26:18 PM PST by new yorker 77

While President Bush has tumbled in the polls, he still retains support among America’s military veterans. Sixty-percent (60%) of Veterans approve of the way the President is performing his job, including 30% who Strongly Approve.

They are the only ones morally allowed to tell us how to fight a war, right pinkos?

By TrueAndy

November 21, 2005 09:31 AM | Link to this

pinkos, pinkos, pinkos, blah, blah, blah. i love bush. no, i mean, i really love him. i really, really, “love” him. did i mention i hate pinkos? pinkos, pinkos, pinkos. oh my god, i’m such a douchebag.

By Andy

November 21, 2005 09:38 AM | Link to this

Pronunciation: ‘pi[ng]-(“)kO Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural pink·os also pink·oes : a person who holds advanced liberal or moderately radical political or economic views

By Andy

November 21, 2005 09:49 AM | Link to this

Anybody know what the cost of the Valerie Plame witch hunt is up to now? 60 maybe 70 million? For what? So Fitzgerald can get lavish photo ops and articles in all of the lib publications?

Where’s the pinko outrage over this deficit spending? All of the World’s starving children can take a back seat to the libs playing Keystone Kops?

By Dusty

November 21, 2005 10:08 AM | Link to this

Luckovich has sunk lower than I even thought possible. Why doesn’t he go to work for the Inquirer or the Globe? Anywhere but Atlanta. But I guess we have our slugs and jellyfish in places other than the new aquarium.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 10:27 AM | Link to this

gttim,

This is the guy who said “Cowards cut and run,Marines never do

Maybe next time you start a post by telling someone not to lie, you won’t immediately start lying.

By Paladin

November 21, 2005 10:32 AM | Link to this

BBWWWAAAAHHAA HHAA HHAA Mike, you skewered the issue perfectly on this one… I always make a point to check in on your graphic comments and then get the big laugh reading the blustering, defensive responses from the cold blooded conservative faction. They seem to be always RANTING in their defensive justifications or vilifcations. The poor gullible and misled chicken hawks. The do serve a good purpose though: as they set an example and constant reminder of the serious danger that arrises when arrogance and ignorance are brought together in a cause…
HEHEHE - go get ‘em Mike…

By Peter

November 21, 2005 10:34 AM | Link to this

Andy - If Duh-bya’s minions had followed his order to divulge the Plame leaker the investigation wouldn’t take so much time and money (not to mention the initial leak of classified information which his father deplores). This military veteran wants to hold the administration to the same standards Dr. Hans Blix was when he couldn’t find WMD in Iraq (they should step aside).

By sct

November 21, 2005 10:36 AM | Link to this

To the 30,000 GM employees that got laid-off today. Good news! Wal-mart is hiring!

For those that worked at the Doraville plant, if you get a job at a Wal-Mart here in Georgia please dont forget to sign up for your health insurance, to do that you have to go to your local DFAC’s office. For more info go to peachcare.dfacs.ga.gov.

By gadem

November 21, 2005 10:39 AM | Link to this

Andy, I too feel that the investigation is a waste of my tax dollars, just as the Clinton investigation. My outrage is directed at politicians and there kind that refuse to be honest and thereby running up the cost of the investigations. The investigations are needed…the lies are not.

By gadem

November 21, 2005 10:46 AM | Link to this

Yeah sct, I heard about the plant closing…this is getting ridiculous.

By Midori

November 21, 2005 10:47 AM | Link to this

In its first 15 months, the investigation cost $723,000, according to the Government Accountability Office.

In his “investigation,” Ken Starr spent:

The figures show that Starr’s office, through the end of November 1998, had spent $40,835,000. That includes $27,749,000 in direct expenses from independent counsel appropriations and $13,086,000 in unreimbursed expenses incurred by other government agencies.

Those figures do not include costs incurred by Starr’s predecessor, Robert Fiske, whose office spent about $6 million before Starr was appointed to lead the investigation.

The GAO’s most recent report issued last September showed Starr had spent $33.5 million through March 31st, 1998, after taking over for Fiske in 1994.

Iraq War costing at least a billion a week.

So Andy — where did you get that “70 million” figure — pulled it out of your a*?

links to the info I provided:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/23/AR2005102301028_2.html

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/02/01/starr.costs/

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 10:48 AM | Link to this

ml,

Sam Johnson described the effects of words on troops in a war zone.

A decorated war hero, Johnson was awarded two Silver Stars, two Legions of Merit, the Distinguished Flying Cross, one Bronze Star with Valor, two Purple Hearts, four Air Medals, and three Outstanding Unit Awards.

Why do hear every word Mothra says, but nothing from this guy

By gadem

November 21, 2005 10:57 AM | Link to this

So RW what did Mr. Sam Johnson say?

By buff

November 21, 2005 10:58 AM | Link to this

What the Clinton investigation actually uncovered was the hypocrisy of the radical feminists. Bob Packwood french kissed a woman and the fems raised hell until he had to resign. Clinton, a real woman-izer (cannot blame him for, look at Hillary) was supported by the fems. He has been accused of rape, the Arkansas Highway Patrol noted all his affairs, but, the fems still thought he as ok, evenafter taking advantage of a moon-eyed young intern. And, to you lefties, I am not attaching Billy Clinton, jsut the hypocritical left

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 10:59 AM | Link to this

sct & gadem,

DETROIT — General Motors Corp. will eliminate 30,000 jobs and close nine North American assembly, stamping and powertrain plants by 2008 as part of an effort to get production in line with demand and position the world’s biggest automaker to start making money again after absorbing nearly $4 billion in losses so far this year.

The announcement Monday by Rick Wagoner, GM’s chairman and CEO, represents 5,000 more job cuts than the 25,000 that the automaker had previously indicated it planned to cut.

You guys have a real tough time with facts, don’t you?

By sct

November 21, 2005 11:00 AM | Link to this

“Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly. We must stop giving the appearance that our foreign policy is formulated by the Unabomber.”

and

“I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now.”

Both remarks are from Tom Delay, how in the world did we ever win in Yugoslavia with this kind of talk from our leaders?

By Andy

November 21, 2005 11:01 AM | Link to this

Midori, Hun, I was asking a question. Thanks for the answer to it. It goes to show you how many crimes Bill Clinton committed, if you use money spent for comparison.

Maybe there isn’t anything for Fitzgerald to investigate, you reckon?

By sct

November 21, 2005 11:06 AM | Link to this

3,100 jobs to be cut locally; 8 other North American plants to be shut.

Yes, your right RW, great news!

By Midori

November 21, 2005 11:09 AM | Link to this

Andy — exactly how many “crimes” did Clinton commit? Why didn’t Ken Starr indict him for said “crimes”? All Starr had to show after all that time and money spent was a stained blue dress.

I’ll take quality over quantity anytime.

Fitzgerald is doing a marvelous job, and he’s not abusing taxpayer money in the process.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 11:11 AM | Link to this

gadem,

Maybe you should have watched the debate Friday night, since our press doesn’t care to report both sides.

He said that when was a POW for seven years in Vietnam the words of Congress were constantly used to turn him against the United States. I’d find the transcript, but I know you don’t care anyway.

One of your patriotic Democrats tried to cut him off, but backed down when told he would have to publicly identify himself to object.

By Andy

November 21, 2005 11:13 AM | Link to this

… Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “AJC Cuts 42 Part-Time Drivers’ Jobs,” 02/28/02 … More than 100 layoffs are expected; the other job cuts will come from …

They couldn’t keep them on as fact checkers?

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 11:14 AM | Link to this

sct,

They aren’t being cut today.

By the way, did you know that are almost no block ice home delivery jobs anymore?

By buff

November 21, 2005 11:14 AM | Link to this

Midori, the biggest problem I have with Bill Clinton’s behavior is that he used the weight and power of his office to deny a woman her day in court. He had that rat-faced James Carville on Meet the Press ridiculing Paula Jones and saying things such as: “Well, you drag a hunderd dollar bill through a trailer park, and, heh heh, you will get all sorts of trash,” or something to that nature. He got impeached, yeah, by the GOP, but his transgressions were such that Arkansas disbarred him.

By Andy

November 21, 2005 11:17 AM | Link to this

Midori: Jeez, you missed the 1990’s? If I got into all of the crimes the Clintons committed, and still do today, I would get keyboard cramp. Buy the books!

By gadem

November 21, 2005 11:19 AM | Link to this

RW I would not have asked if I did not care…but I digress. You are so much more intelligent than I am…you are a worldly man er man of the world. RW, did you know that people are different. So what affects Mr. Johnson, may not affect you or I the same way. Did you and you kind care about about veterans feelings when they were smearing their good names….and this was done only for political gain.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 11:23 AM | Link to this

gadem,

I finally agree with you, and not just the complementary parts, I hated it when John Kerry smeared our military for political gain.

By Andy

November 21, 2005 11:23 AM | Link to this

Anybody wanna take a shot at translating gadem’s last pinko post? When these libs get weepy it is hard to understand what they are saying..

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 11:25 AM | Link to this

I am sitting here listening to Cheney talk about history and wondering why nobody talks about the Gulf War. Daddy cut and ran and left Saddam in power and that caused the extremist to be angry and unite.

By gadem

November 21, 2005 11:26 AM | Link to this

You are so blinded by ignorance it is sad. So I am assuming that is was OK for your party to attack Max Cleland, John Kerry, and even John McCain which is one of the only Republicans that I respect.

By buff

November 21, 2005 11:26 AM | Link to this

The leftists saying “we support the troops but not the war” is about as insipid as their idiot 1960s slogan “fighting for peace is like f—-ing for virginity. The left has been reduced to being a party of slogans

By gadem

November 21, 2005 11:27 AM | Link to this

Well cut and run…that is history. Let’s not bring that up because then 9/11 had not happened or something to that effect.

By Andy

November 21, 2005 11:30 AM | Link to this

gadem: McCain is too old to run for president plus he is a pinko in wolf’s clothing. Condi 08!

By sct

November 21, 2005 11:30 AM | Link to this

Yes, I know there are no longer block ice deliveries, but knowing how out of touch our US auto makers are with the market, it wouldn’t suprise me if Ford and GM still make ice delivery vans.

BTW, Toyota just passed Ford as the worlds 2nd largest auto maker

and this just today:

Toyota Motor Corp. is expected to release 2006 sales targets next month that, if realized, would push it past General Motors Corp. as the world’s largest automaker, according to a report in Saturday’s Wall Street Journal.

Great news!!

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 11:31 AM | Link to this

Okay, but I was reading up on the Gulf War and alot of soldiers were upset when Bush cut and ran because they wanted to finish the mission and go get Saddam.

By gadem

November 21, 2005 11:32 AM | Link to this

Oh buff I know Stay the Course is just a catch phrase. Please don’t throw stones in a glass house.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 11:35 AM | Link to this

cutandrun,

See what happens when you tie yourself to a bunch of worthless thugs like the United Nations.

That’s why this President Bush isn’t letting them run the show.

By gadem

November 21, 2005 11:35 AM | Link to this

Andy you are delusional, so yeah McCain is such a liberal politician….so that explains why you all smeared his name. This is interesting Delusional Andy…keep talking.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this

gadem,

Calling the entire military a bunch of marauding psychopaths, is a little worse than pointing out someones voting record, don’t you think?

By Andy

November 21, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this

sct, letting the liberal knowledge shine through: Toyota is #2 because they aren’t saddled with worker pension and health care costs like GM is. Thanks for bringing that up.

By buff

November 21, 2005 11:39 AM | Link to this

gaden, “stya the course” is POLICY. And, I am getting ready to buy a pick ‘em up trucka nd it will be a Toyota

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 11:39 AM | Link to this

A crucial result of the Persian Gulf War, according to Gilles Kepel, was the sharp revival in Islamic extremism. The change of face by Saddam’s secular regime did little to draw support from Islamist groups. However, it, combined with the Saudi Arabian alliance with the United States and Saudi Arabia being seen as being on the same side of Israel dramatically eroded that regime’s legitimacy. Activity of Islamist groups against the Saudi regime increased dramatically. In part to win back favour with Islamist groups Saudi Arabia greatly increased funding to those that would support the regime. Throughout the newly independent states of Central Asia the Saudis paid for the distribution of millions of Qur’ans and the building of hundreds of mosques for extremist groups. In Afghanistan the Saudi regime became a leading patron of the Taliban in that nation’s civil war, and one of the only foreign countries to officially recognize the government

By gadem

November 21, 2005 11:40 AM | Link to this

RW, so Bush I was not in charge the first time, but this Bush is…interesting. It has always been stated that Bush surrounds himself with very good people that he deligates responsibilities to…man you guys are like backwood preachers peddling snake oil…twisting words to make a sale.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 11:40 AM | Link to this

Andy,

Talk about babbling liberals, sct is apparently saying that GM is so out of touch with the modern era that they should keep doing things the same way they are now.

I thought these libs hated cars anyway.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 11:44 AM | Link to this

gadem,

Here is more of what Sam Johnson said

If you look through yesterdays blog we went over all the UN resolutions of Gulf War I.

By buff

November 21, 2005 11:45 AM | Link to this

Christian-hating Midori: today’s snooze-paper has an article saying that the Bible Belt is the most generous part in the nation, and, the New England states the most miserly. Now, New Endland is ‘VERY liberal. I am not surprised, leftists are only charitable with the money of others.

By buff

November 21, 2005 11:47 AM | Link to this

Hey, Jay Bookman, get anew pix, you look like a wimpy little pinko. Oh, what never mind

By Dusty

November 21, 2005 11:49 AM | Link to this

Well, I am still seething over Luckovich’s rabid cartoon. Must this kind of junk come out of Atlanta in a discriminatory newspaper and be representative of anything from the South? It represents nothing of the American sense of fairness which we once had. We have all the crackpots like Candide and other warped individuals rejoicing over anything they think is American failure. And if they can’t find it, they create it. What next? Burning up automobiles? Dissent is one thing. Anarchy is somethng else. It seems that some of you cannot tell the difference. I also think “political cartooning” is NO excuse for abusing our country and the president. So much for Luckovich who couldn’t get elected to be doorkeeper at a PTA meeting.

By Andy

November 21, 2005 11:49 AM | Link to this

gadem: The ACU gave McCain a rating of 72 out of 100 on his Conservatism. While he did beat Olympia Snowe, this is not saying much…

[I thought Hillary was a moderate?)

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 11:50 AM | Link to this

So, we are not fighting a war on terror (OBL), but we are cleaning up Daddy’s mess.

By Andy

November 21, 2005 11:52 AM | Link to this

Oops-

gadem: The ACU gave McCain a rating of 72 out of 100 on his Conservatism. While he did beat Olympia Snowe, this is not saying much…

I thought Hillary was a moderate?

By buff

November 21, 2005 11:52 AM | Link to this

Dusty, amen. As I said yesterday, when my subscription runs out I am not renewing the Al Jazeerah Chronicle. Only symbolic, but……

By gadem

November 21, 2005 11:56 AM | Link to this

RW you actually have conversations with Delusional (Duct tape hoarding, plastic over every window, bomb shelter) Andy…I had a little more respect for you because your arguments were based more on O’Reilly and Limbaugh, but atleast you had enough brain capacity to remember their opinions. You my friend will be added to my ignore list.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 12:00 PM | Link to this

gadem,

Just like a typical whiny moonbat, when you can’t keep up with the debate just.. what’s the term?… oh yeah, Cut and Run!

By Andy

November 21, 2005 12:09 PM | Link to this

Congratulations to Atlanta, you made another list. #7 most dangerous city. Thanks to all of your pinko peace ideas, criminals are not afraid to come into your city and kill you. And you want to decide American foreign policy? Thanks, but no thanks!

Congratulations, Atlanta!

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 12:11 PM | Link to this

Well at least we know Lucko and his supporters are in the minority in both Georgia and the South

By gadem

November 21, 2005 12:13 PM | Link to this

So Dusty were you seething when political cartoons were poking fun at Clinton. Be real, you are just mad that your Baby Boy Bush is being exposed as an incompetent leader. In my opinion, a real leader would have attacked Osama and his ilk in Afghanistan not turned attention to Iraq…but like I said that is my opinion.

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 12:20 PM | Link to this

The reason Mr. Murtha stood up was he was tired of our kids getting killed and maimed to clean up Daddy’s mess. He should have done it sooner and makes you wonder about all the other on Capital Hill. Hey, pinko lib haters, where is your backbone!

By adam

November 21, 2005 12:21 PM | Link to this

Mike - There was a priceless picture in the AJC today of Little George trying to escape a question at the Asian Summit by heading for the closest door, only to find it locked.

I would love to see your incredible talents put to use regarding that picture - perhaps a “runaway President” cartoon.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 12:21 PM | Link to this

cutandrun,

403-3

Scoreboard!!!

By gadem

November 21, 2005 12:22 PM | Link to this

Well Ricky we try…I doubt that we are in the minority now, but whatever you think. Actually Ricky what will you all do once America wakes up and leaves Georgia and the rest of the South behind with that primitive mindset….also Ricky an FYI, the south will not rise again…

By rushncap

November 21, 2005 12:22 PM | Link to this

Awww, Dusty, Mike hurt your feelings? Well, tough. At least you don’t have a son that a-hole-in-chief sent to die in the desert for no reason. That’s a bit more than a “hurt feeling”. So consider yourself lucky. So go ahead and seethe. Just remember to thank your lucky stars that you get to seethe in the comfort of your own home, and not at a graveyard.

Bush should be tried as a war criminal and be locked up for the rest of his life. Along with Cheney, Perle and others. If the most they get is a cutting cartoon then they got off easier than Michael Jackson did after molesting those kids.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 12:23 PM | Link to this

The Ninth circuit says religion can be taught in government schools

but, only Islam.

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 12:27 PM | Link to this

gadem, just because I am a conservative in the south doesn’t mean I am a redneck or want to refight the civil war. Thanks for your stereotyping though. And you say the South is primitive? Look at the rest of the country and who voted for Bush in 2004. Dems only carry the northeast and the left coast. Republicans dominate in everyday America.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 12:27 PM | Link to this

Finally a talented cartoonist

The Kennedy solution

By gadem

November 21, 2005 12:28 PM | Link to this

RW, as most sane people have mentioned, that vote was nothing more than a political stunt. But you can take solice in the fact that your leaders can hold a vote that carries no weight. That actually strengthens your argument…you are an original.

By Dusty

November 21, 2005 12:30 PM | Link to this

gadem, where were you when the lights went out? We had a little fight in Afghanistan. Remember? Osama may or may not be holed up there but he isn’t moving much with the Afghan Army, some American military and peacekeepers on watch. Are you suggesting we run backwards? That is the way liberals run as in “Cut & Run”. As to Clinton, I don’t remember any cartoon of him with his clothes off. But that wouldn’t have been a surprise after his shenanigans in the White House.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 12:32 PM | Link to this

gadem,

As you may have noticed “original” is part of my name.

A vote in the House is a political stunt, but shutting down the Senate and throwing out the press because you claim to want more openness is good governance?

By Andy

November 21, 2005 12:33 PM | Link to this

RW: You should see the big a-s-s Nativity Scene I put up in my front yard. With Baby Jesus slam in the middle of it. It can be seen a half of a mile in any direction. I also rigged up one of those Politically Correct deer lite figures so that it is laying dead on the ground with an arrow stuck out of it.

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 12:33 PM | Link to this

RW, I am confused, wasn’t it the GOP party that called for a vote for the troops to cut and run? The GOP tired of our kids getting killed and maimed to clean up Daddy’s mess?

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 12:36 PM | Link to this

Cutandrun, you are not being intellectually honest. You know just like everyone else that the vote was prompted by Rep Murtha’s comments. What a joke you are.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 12:37 PM | Link to this

cutandrun,

Yes, I can plainly tell that you are confused.

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 12:39 PM | Link to this

It was a GOP proposal, not Mr. Murtha’s.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 12:40 PM | Link to this

Andy,

You might to put an arrow through a boar out there too, just in case the “religion of peace” group comes sniffing around.

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 12:40 PM | Link to this

Yes cutandrun it was a GOP proposal whose intent was to make the Dems put their vote where the mouth is. And your buddy Cynthia McKinney was one of 3 to vote yes. LOL,she is joke nationwide

By SherryVL

November 21, 2005 12:41 PM | Link to this

BAWAAAAAHHHH! Great cartoon, Lucko — another one goes up on my bulletin board!

By Andy

November 21, 2005 12:41 PM | Link to this

cutandrun: You are right, the GOP called out the spineless democrats in the House to give them a chance to stand behind their grandstanding. As usual, they scattered at the first sign of accountability. Except for Cynthia!

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 12:45 PM | Link to this

Cynthia McKinney voted yes because she did not want to clean up Daddy’s mess from the start.

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 12:46 PM | Link to this

cutandrun, explain how this is Daddy’s mess? And then tell me how it is not also Clintons mess. I would love to hear your explanation

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 12:48 PM | Link to this

cutandrun,

Read this and you’ll find that President Bush is cleaning up the mess Clinton left behind

The United States favors an Iraq that offers its people freedom at home. I categorically reject arguments that this is unattainable due to Iraq’s history or its ethnic or sectarian make-up. Iraqis deserve and desire freedom like everyone else. The United States looks forward to a democratically supported regime that would permit us to enter into a dialogue leading to the reintegration of Iraq into normal international life.

By sct

November 21, 2005 12:49 PM | Link to this

Congratulations to Newton Mass, you made another list. #1 least dangerous city. Thanks to all of your pinko peace ideas, criminals are afraid to come into your city and kill you. And you want to decide American foreign policy? Thanks, we sure could use you now!

By Dusty

November 21, 2005 12:49 PM | Link to this

Cutandrun, or if I may call you more correctly “Jerk”, my family has had people in the military every generation. The last one got out after 16 years of service. Do you think we don’t care when the caualties are announced? That is why we are so upset when liberals like you want to go howling in the night like a bunch of coyotes going “Run! Leave! Retreat!”. You discredit every American death and encouage every terrorist initiative. Go and take Luckovich with you. He does your graffiti for you.

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 12:50 PM | Link to this

This is not the first time Rep Murtha has called for troops to be pulled out: After terrorists attacked U.S. troops in Mogadishu, Somalia 12 years ago, anti-Iraq war Democrat, Rep. John Murtha urged then-President Clinton to begin a complete pullout of U.S. troops from the region. Clinton took the advice and ordered the withdrawal - a decision that Osama bin Laden would later credit with emboldening his terrorist fighters and encouraging him to mount further attacks against the U.S. “Our welcome has been worn out,” Rep Murtha told NBC’s “Today” show in Sept. 1993, a month after 4 U.S. Military Police had been killed in Somalia by a remote-detonated land mine.

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 12:53 PM | Link to this

And they all come out of their holes… Would we be in Iraq now, if Bush finished the job in the Gulf War and not cut and ran before getting Saddam?

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 12:56 PM | Link to this

cutandrun, obviously you don’t remember your history. First of all most Dems voted against even going over there to begin with. Secondly, they didn’t want Bush to go after Saddam, saying that the UN resolution only authorized him to get the Iraqis out of Kuwait. C’mon man get your facts straight. And what did Clinton do to stop Saddam?

By Dusty

November 21, 2005 12:56 PM | Link to this

Cutandrun, rushncap,

if you’ve seen one you’ve seen ‘em all.

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 12:59 PM | Link to this

And Bush listened to the UN this time?

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 01:01 PM | Link to this

Can anyone imagine what the b-itching by Democrats and their fellow travelers in the “main stream media” would have been like if George H.W. Bush had violated their sacred United Nations and pushed into Baghdad?

By finch

November 21, 2005 01:03 PM | Link to this

For the last time, the GOP resolution calling for an immediate withdrawl from Iraq that was rejected Friday was NOT the same as the phased, gradual withdrawl proposed by Rep. Murtha.

That’s a big difference, and one I would think that even logic-impared Bushbots could comprehend. Certainly House Democrats did.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 01:07 PM | Link to this

finch,

Even though it wasn’t the wording of Mothra’s proposal, it was reported as immediate withdrawal on AL Jeezera (the real one not the AJC).

When the Arab press is saying that Congress wants to withdraw immediately, you better do something to prove that’s not true.

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 01:08 PM | Link to this

So Finch, there was no correlation between the two?

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 01:11 PM | Link to this

Like Mr. Murtha said. The tombstones do not say Republican or Democrat. Keep an open mind, go back and read about the Gulf war, and ask yourself. Would we be in Iraq now if Bush was not President and would we have OBL now?

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 01:16 PM | Link to this

sct,

Check out the Newton Mass demographics

OH no, where is the diversity?

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 01:18 PM | Link to this

Cutandrun, heres the rundown. OBL got mad because there were American troops in Saudi. He then proceeded to bankroll Al Qaeda and become increasingly bold and audacios throughout the 1990s. He was invovled in terrorist attacks agains the WTC the first time, US embassies, the USS Cole, Khobar Towers, Mogadishu, and 9/11. He has said himself that when Clinton pulled the troops out of Somalia he thought the Americans were weak. He declared war on us and Clinton did nothing. He operated without fear or constraint for 8 years.

By cutandrun@yahoo.com

November 21, 2005 01:23 PM | Link to this

Ricky, I do not see the words Saddam and Iraq in your argument.

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 01:27 PM | Link to this

Cutandrun, I already posted about why Saddam was left in power after Desert Storm. He continued to do what he wanted and ignored all UN resolutions against him and threw out the weapons inspectors. Bill Clinton’s policy was regime change but he never really did anything about it. Iraq was a continuing problem as most intel services and politicians in the world said. They had terrorist camps in the North near Iran run by Abu Nassar. Some of their officials met with Al Qaeda memebers(google Stephen Hayes and you can see the extensive research he has done on the subject). The also cared for injured Al Qaeda in their hospitals during the war in Afhanistan.

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 01:28 PM | Link to this

Ooops, I put in the email address.Please do not stalk me.

By gadem

November 21, 2005 01:29 PM | Link to this

And Ricky how is this related to Iraq and Sadaam Husein….When we say the war in Iraq is not just, and only involved the terrorist when a sovereign/holy land of theirs was invaded. Conservatives scream terrorist were in Iraq…Sadaam and Osama are one in the same….whatever you all are disillusioned.

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 01:29 PM | Link to this

Cutandrun, and no we wouldn’t be in Iraq now if Gore were president. He doesn’t have the stones or the vision to do something like that.

By Midori

November 21, 2005 01:29 PM | Link to this

Ricky, Ricky, Ricky — “rewriting” history again, eh?

http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/pearly/htmls/bill-terrorism.html

http://www.makethemaccountable.com/myth/ClintonAndTerrorism.htm

http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/18/60minutes/main624848.shtml

http://www.mikehersh.com/ClintonvsTerrorRepublicansvs_Clinton.shtml

Why is it that I doubt you’ll read any of these?

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 01:33 PM | Link to this

Midori, your right Clinton did lob some cruise missiles at an empty camp in Afghanistan and he treated ALL the terrorists attacks as criminal actions. I like this line from one of the articles you gave me. • Three times after Aug. 20, 1998, when Clinton ordered the only missile strike of his presidency against bin Laden’s organization, the CIA came close enough to pinpointing bin Laden that Clinton authorized final preparations to launch. In each case, doubts about the intelligence aborted the mission.

By gadem

November 21, 2005 01:33 PM | Link to this

Ricky that is the problem…Dubya’s vision is as blurry as someone with Glaucoma…and I need to apologize to people that have Glaucoma for that comment…

By Midori

November 21, 2005 01:33 PM | Link to this

Andy

Cutandrun, and no we wouldn’t be in Iraq now if Gore were president. He doesn’t have the stones or the vision to do something like that.

so, you’re saying that only blooming idiots have “vision” and “stones”?

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 01:34 PM | Link to this

Midori,

If you would actually put in a link I would go to your propaganda sites and read some of the tripe.

Yikes! You even list CBS as a credible source?

By cutandrun

November 21, 2005 01:34 PM | Link to this

I have to cut and run to other blogs but will be back to check up on this debate. No name calling and stalking PLEASE.

By Midori

November 21, 2005 01:37 PM | Link to this

Keep spreading the lies.

Saddam did not, repeat DID NOT, kick out the weapons inspectors.

http://www.fair.org/activism/post-expulsions.html

and prior to Bush getting his war on, they were withdrawn.

Pity.

Several lost lives and billions of dollars later, we now know that the inspections worked.

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 01:37 PM | Link to this

gadem, I admit that Bush’s vision is controversial. He is making an effort to shift the balance of power in the Middle East. If we can establish a Arab deomcracy in Iraq to go along with Jordan, that is a huge step forward. Isreal and the Palenstinians are making strides forward. I notice none of you talked about the concession that Condi Rice got from the Israeli’s last week to allow Palestinians to use border crossings into Egypt that have been close for years. I am not a blind supporter of Bush. There have been mistakes made in Iraq, but at the same time, not everything was a mistake as many of you would want people to believe. There is a middle ground.

By Sandy

November 21, 2005 01:39 PM | Link to this

What everyone seems to forget is that this war, like Vietnam is a POLITICAL WAR. All political wars eventually falter because they have no solid footings. It was entered into by politicians and can only be ended by politicians! We are however stuck in a situation that no matter what avenue we take people will die!

By Midori

November 21, 2005 01:40 PM | Link to this

Ricky — “controversial” doesn’t do enough justice in trying to describe Bush’s vision.

Try criminal.

Try idiotic.

Try stupid.

Try murderous.

Try inept.

Try hypcritical.

Try stupid.

By Andy

November 21, 2005 01:40 PM | Link to this

After the terrorists blew a hole in the side of one of our warships, the USS Cole, killing 17 sailors, Clinton said it was not “sufficiently provocative.” Eeewww, tough guy!

By gadem

November 21, 2005 01:40 PM | Link to this

Ricky, your comment at 1:29 is the problem with this war. The attack on the US was never initiated by Sadaam, but you and your fellow like minded individuals would make it seem that way. I know that Gore would have stayed the course in Afghanistan to catch, more than likely kill Bin Laden.

Well let me rephrase that, the military would have killed Bin Laden, but Gore would have put them in the right place to do their job. But I digress again…whatever helps you guys sleep thru the night.

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 01:42 PM | Link to this

Midori, three of the websites you give are leftist sites. They report exactly what they want you to think. Just like Drudge and Rush, you can’t use them as a credible source. And you really think that Saddam never kicked out the weapons inspectors?

By Ricky

November 21, 2005 01:43 PM | Link to this

Midori, three of the websites you give are leftist sites. They report exactly what they want you to think. Just like Drudge and Rush, you can’t use them as a credible source. And you really think that Saddam never kicked out the weapons inspectors? A report in the London Telegraph says that Saddam Hussein offered a $2 million bribe to UN weapons inspectors to falsify their reports on his WMD programs.

By Midori

November 21, 2005 01:44 PM | Link to this

Andy — why didn’t Bush “smoke them out of their holes”?

You know — the guys who bombed the Cole?

Wasn’t that done a month or so before Clinton left the White House?

What happened to Bush’s “vision” in dealing with that attack? His “stones”?

By Edwina

November 21, 2005 01:45 PM | Link to this

Andy you are wearing your jock strap too tight. Do you wear your balls on the left or right side?
You do have balls don’t you. Just wondering in Wisconsin.

By Andy

November 21, 2005 01:45 PM | Link to this

Gore would still be debating the environmental impacts of a war with Afghanistan.

By RW-(the original)

November 21, 2005 01:45 PM | Link to this

gadem,

I seriously doubt that Gore would have even gone to Afghanistan.

I bet he would have said the Taliban didn’t attack us and he would have fallen for some phony deal they gave him.