Mike Luckovich

By RW-(the original)

November 2, 2005 10:17 PM | Link to this

Fitzmas must have been really sad at the luckovich home.

Denial is only a step mike, don’t worry.

By Andy

November 3, 2005 05:10 AM | Link to this

I got a question for you libs. Do you have any evidence of the allegations that you make? I’m just curious, after all, Fitzgerald couldn’t find any, even after wasting 2 years and several million taxpayer dollars. Or are you just going to act like there’s a crime, much like children playing cowboys and indians?

All cartoon boy got for fitzmas was bushslapped. Again. It has to hurt being such a total loser.

By The Other Andy

November 3, 2005 06:20 AM | Link to this

Those who actually read the paper and have looked into the facts behind the indictment (I guess we’re called “libs” now by people who don’t want to do their homework) have this to say in response to the above two comments:

Get your heads out of the two-dimensional cartoon world of ignorance and aggressive deceit you’re helping to construct.

TWO reporters said they got talked with Rove who leaked them the information about Mrs. Wilson’s employment at the CIA.

The President said that anyone who leaked the information would be fired. He forgot to mention the fine print that says: Unless of course, it’s someone I trust and am loyal to, in which case, I’ll cover for them as long as I can and hope my cartoon friends with blogs and talk radio will cover for me by claiming that national security wasn’t “intentionally” breached by these leaks that were used to beat up an opponent of the Iraq justifications that turned out to be mostly false anyway, but we don’t like to look back at our mistakes.

By Andy

November 3, 2005 06:44 AM | Link to this

Sputtering rage combined with the naive disclosure that you “actually read the paper,” does not erase the fact that an independent investigation found no evidence of a criminal leak.

It is quite odd that a lib would suggest that I have my “head in a two dimensional cartoon world,” when it is they who only have a cartoon.

By Anti Andy

November 3, 2005 06:55 AM | Link to this

Um…Andy? Do you think that Scooter’s perjury is insignificant, based on what you wrote: “Or are you just going to act like there’s a crime, much like children playing cowboys and indians?”

If you think perjury’s insignificant, then you must also think Clinton’s perjury was also insignificant. Because if you think Clinton’s perjury was a big deal, you are using a double standard. Prove that you are not being hypocritical here.

By The Other Andy

November 3, 2005 06:59 AM | Link to this

And there you go… adding the word “criminal” to the word “leak” to justify that it was ok to go ahead and leak the name of a CIA employee to the press in order to damage her husband’s credibility.

The difference between us seems to be that I recognize that Rove leaked the information to a reporter for political gain and you want to deny a leak occurred because it wasn’t up to the level of “criminal”.

And the best comeback you have is “nyeah, nyeah, YOU’RE the poopyhead”? Please. Go back to talk radio where you can agree with everyone who calls in.

By Jasper Meer

November 3, 2005 07:00 AM | Link to this

Plame’s cover was blown. This is irrefutable. Fitzgerald continues to investigate and build his case, however it hit a few snags, mainly Judith Miller’s insanity and Scooter’s perjury. When witnesses won’t talk or baldfacedly lie, this slows the process. Fortunately for the Republic, Fitzgerald’s pretty sharp and he’s caught Libby out on a few pretty gross inconsistencies in testimony that can’t be explained away. Undermining our nation’s intelligence services is more than just political slagging, and I hope Fitzgerald takes all the time he needs to nail these criminals’ arses to the prison s** house wall.

By Andy

November 3, 2005 07:12 AM | Link to this

All Fitzgerald has is conflicting statements from several different witnesses. Basically he said/ she said. The Libby indictments are Fitzgeralds way of justifying the millions of dollars that he has wasted.

So you libs are pretty much saying that Joseph Wilson is true American patriot. Am I understanding this correctly?

By Chuck

November 3, 2005 07:42 AM | Link to this

To: Andy

Fitzgerald indicated in his press conference that the reason no one was indicted under the anti-disclosure statute was that witnesses — with “Scooter” being the most deceptive — didn’t tell the truth and purposely misled the grand jury, hence Scooter’s indictment. To suggest he was indicted for no reason is naive. One should not lie to the FBI and never under oath to a grand jury.

Why was Scooter indicted for lying and obstruction of justice? Because he purposely misled the Special Prosecutor and the grand jury.

Next case, please!

By Tom Wesley

November 3, 2005 07:53 AM | Link to this

Just in the event that you missed it, Mike, the Democrats pulled a dandy stunt in Congress day before yesterday. You missed a great opportunity to be funny.

By Dusty

November 3, 2005 08:14 AM | Link to this

Tom, Luckovich ALWAYS misses any dandy stunts by Democrats in Congress. But his skills(?) seem to be slipping. Today’s cartoon looks like Bush is in bed with Col. Kadafi of Libya. It also puts Rove’s name on a “leak” on a dripping telephone. There has been no indictment, only rumors. Suggesting a little unproven information about Republicans doesn’t bother Luckovich one bit. That is his job at a liberal newspaper.

By Ricky

November 3, 2005 08:18 AM | Link to this

Well you couldn’t expect Lucko to stay away from bashing the Bush administration for more than two days. Oh well just confirms what we all knew anyway

By Andy

November 3, 2005 08:20 AM | Link to this

Chuck: Don’t tip toe around my question. I want to hear that you libs think that Joseph Wilson was acting in the best interest of the national security of the United States. You’ve all but said it already, take the plunge.

By JW

November 3, 2005 08:29 AM | Link to this

Mike, you could have done a little better on the faucet. Maybe I’m a little old but it took me a minute to figure out what the world it was.

By Chuck

November 3, 2005 08:29 AM | Link to this

Andy:

Why assume I’m a “lib”? Is anyone who disagrees with you a “lib”? My politics are conservative, but wrong is wrong. You want to defend the indefensible and divert attention away from the misdeeds of those you support to Joseph Wilson, who,as far as I’m concerned, is as much a liar as those you blindly defend. You sound like Sean Vanity.

By Tom

November 3, 2005 08:30 AM | Link to this

Check out Cheney’s website: Project For A New American Century. Read their Statement of Purpose and various letters, especially one in 1998 to President Clinton. Look at who signed them. Consider how the philosophies in these documents have shaped our policies under this administration. This is nothing new. Do you think it’s a coincidence that Haliburton just happened to be “ready” for the war? I think one reason that they didn’t send enough troops was because they only sent what Haliburton could handle as far as housing and food..

By Voice of Reason

November 3, 2005 08:46 AM | Link to this

Why do people lie?

By Huh?

November 3, 2005 09:01 AM | Link to this

“I got a question for you libs. Do you have any evidence of the allegations that you make? I’m just curious, after all, Fitzgerald couldn’t find any, even after wasting 2 years and several million taxpayer dollars. Or are you just going to act like there’s a crime, much like children playing cowboys and indians?”

Andy c’mon, you are looking very ignorant. Whose word are you relying on? Don’t you care enough to read the indictment yourself?

By Andy

November 3, 2005 09:03 AM | Link to this

Chuck: The actions of Joseph Wilson, which drew the response from the White House which has been investigated and cleared of criminal wrongdoing, were done to actively undermine the national security of the United States. Just ask the Senate intelligence committee if you don’t believe me. Not charging Wilson with treason is the only thing the Bush Administration has done wrong.

The CIA is a nest of partisan pinkos, courtesy of Vietnam and liberal democrat governance. It was their job to produce evidence of WMD, they presented this evidence to Congress, which then authorized the invasion of Iraq. The Commander in Chief of the United States had the same evidence that Colin Powell did.

Earlier this week, the Washington Post disclosed operation plans and secret locations of the CIA directly related to the war with al Qaeda. Where is the liberal outrage for this? You don’t even need a million dollar investigation, they put it in writing and shared it with the whole world. I wonder what the difference between this and “plamegate” is?

By Huh?

November 3, 2005 09:11 AM | Link to this

“The actions of Joseph Wilson, which drew the response from the White House which has been investigated and cleared of criminal wrongdoing”

Andy that is a complete and unadultrated falsehood. The indictment states in black and white that the investigation is at a standstill because Libby is obstructing justice. It’s you country dude. Why are you lying like that?

By Huh?

November 3, 2005 09:19 AM | Link to this

Andy here is the exact wording of Fitzgerald. “The harm from the obstruction crime is that it shields us from knowing the full truth,” said Fitzgerald, who plans on continuing the investigation into the CIA leak. “I will not end the investigation until I can look anyone in the eye and tell them we have carried our responsibility sufficiently.”

Read it and weep. How long before Cheney has to pull an Agnew? Weeks, months?

By Voice of Reason

November 3, 2005 09:20 AM | Link to this

Why do you think people lie?

By gttim

November 3, 2005 09:21 AM | Link to this

I want to hear that you libs think that Joseph Wilson was acting in the best interest of the national security of the United States.

Was a person who was pushing for the truth to be told to the American people doing the best for the national security of the US? Yes! The truth is always in the best interest. The truth about no WMDs, no 9/11 connections, the millions of dollars of taxpayers money that cannot be accounted for, torture, prison camps being built in old Soviet prisons, outing members of US government and defense for political purposes- all of that. Yes, the truth is important, and I thank Wilson for trying to tell it. Now if only Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rove, Libby and all our crooked members of the white house would start telling the truth. For a family values crowd, they lie like dunken sailors, which is how the y spend our money, as well.

By Huh?

November 3, 2005 09:25 AM | Link to this

“Why do you think people lie?”

Is that a philosophical question or why do I think these people lie?

By Les

November 3, 2005 09:26 AM | Link to this

If you tell the truth, you don’t have to have a good memory.

For comparison, Fitzgerald has been investigating for 2 years and has “wasted millions,” according to a previous poster. Remember Kenneth Starr. He spent 5 years and $40 million investigating Whitewater and the Lewinsky matter. Is it wasted money only when Republicans are investigated?

By Ricky

November 3, 2005 09:26 AM | Link to this

For all of you that think Wilson was telling the truth, look at the Senate Intelligence committee’s report. It is obvious that he has lied repeatedly. I am not saying that he is the only one wrong in this circus, but he is no better than the rest of them. Everyone involved in this situation is shady at best.

By Ricky

November 3, 2005 09:28 AM | Link to this

Les, the money was wasted investigation Clinton too.

By Andy

November 3, 2005 09:36 AM | Link to this

O.K. I’ll take the bait on the Clintons. Just because Susan McDougal obstructed the Whitewater investigation means that Bill and Hillary were automatically guilty?

By Huh?

November 3, 2005 09:55 AM | Link to this

“For all of you that think Wilson was telling the truth, look at the Senate Intelligence committee’s report. It is obvious that he has lied repeatedly. I am not saying that he is the only one wrong in this circus, but he is no better than the rest of them. Everyone involved in this situation is shady at best.”

Since you know it so well what dopes it say?

By Kunyeah

November 3, 2005 10:00 AM | Link to this

George Bush doesn’t care about water.

By Julie

November 3, 2005 10:03 AM | Link to this

Somebody change Andy’s diaper. He seems a little full of it today. Maybe a Lewinsky brand pacifier might help too.

By Huh?

November 3, 2005 10:04 AM | Link to this

“O.K. I’ll take the bait on the Clintons. Just because Susan McDougal obstructed the Whitewater investigation means that Bill and Hillary were automatically guilty?”

Excellent Andy, the classic republican line, which means I can’t give you an answer so I’ll bring up the Clintons and try to cloud things up. You stand naked before the world in your new clothes of ignorance, while your heroes sell out your country to the oil companies.

By SRF

November 3, 2005 10:04 AM | Link to this

Hey - still waiting over here - where is the outrage ? The press revealed secret CIA details about where terror suspects are detained ? Must have been leaked huh ? huh ? Where is the outrage ? I am waiting ? I guess Val - who had not done a covert operation in 5 years and told everybody who would listen at a cocktail party she was CIA - was more secret than this. Where is the leak probe - c’mon guys your hypocrisy is showing again… Still waiting over here…

By Eric

November 3, 2005 10:07 AM | Link to this

Joseph Wilson had absolutely no reason to lie. He is friends with Bush Senior and even worked in his administration. He supported the Bush Cheney ticket in 2000 and gave them money for their campaign. There is every reason to believe him and every reason to believe that the administration is hiding the truth.
You idiots who refuse to accept the truth about Dubya are just kidding yourselves. This is the most corrupt administration since Nixon….probably worse. I’m beginning to think that you’d support Bush in any and every circumstance, no matter what. He could kill his wife and kids and you’d still find some reason to support him. Pitiful.

By kimberly

November 3, 2005 10:09 AM | Link to this

OH! OH! OH! Voice of Reason: I know! Let me! People LIE when they don’t want others to know the TRUTH! Sometimes the truth is embarrassing, or it might hurt someone’s feeeeeeelings. Other times, the truth is a CRIMINAL ACT that could get somebody sent to jail. So people lie for different reasons, but it usually always has to to with concealing TRUTH. I want my gold star now! {:->

By Huh?

November 3, 2005 10:10 AM | Link to this

This is amazing that you are defending Libby who sold out his country. Not a soul outside the WH and yourself SRF is doing that. No one.

By Bobb

November 3, 2005 10:14 AM | Link to this

It’s your space, Mike, so you can illustrate whatever left-wing talking points you choose. And we do appreciate the forum so we can respond and tell you that you stink. But, jeez, can’t you come up with better concepts for the drawings. You are supposed to be a highly-paid, professional editorialist, and we get a leaky faucet with “Karl Rove” printed on it? The other day it was turkey holding a piece of paper with “Bird Flu” on it. A joke is not very good when you have to explain it, or in your case stick labels on it. How about having the Pilgrim holding a newspaper with “Bird Flu” on it? Or, Rove standing in the bathroom sweating bullets, or as a plumber trying to stop the leak, or taking a leak even. Just give it some thought.

By SRF

November 3, 2005 10:16 AM | Link to this

Please prove where I defended Libby.

What I said was - lets at least have some consistency. If the CIA must be protected at all costs then why is it OK for the press to report other leaked details ?

If you are going to show outrage, at least try and fake it when “your” side does the leaking.

By Huh?

November 3, 2005 10:18 AM | Link to this

Bobb are you that dense that you can not understand this carton, that Bush is going to ignore the drip until he drowns in it?

By Centrist

November 3, 2005 10:19 AM | Link to this

I’m still waiting for Andy to answer the question posted by Anti Andy about perjury. Why is it OK for someone in the Bush administration to perjure themselves before a grand jury on a matter of national security? On the other hand why we should try to impeach a President who perjures themselves before a grand jury on a matter of sex?

By Huh?

November 3, 2005 10:25 AM | Link to this

“Please prove where I defended Libby.”

Your defense is bringing up this CIA story which you know nothing about while ignoring the fact that the man has been INDICTED, not your hearsay about some news story, INDICTED.

By SRF

November 3, 2005 10:25 AM | Link to this

I am not an Andy, but I will answer that question. It is not OK for someone in the Bush Administration to perjure themselves before a grand jury on a matter of national security. So that person was indicted and removed - end of story. Even in other administrations, Cabinet members have been indicted and removed, life goes on. I guess the problem is that you assume everyone in the entire administration is therefore guilty. That is just not the case.

By Bobb

November 3, 2005 10:27 AM | Link to this

No, Huh, I’m not that dense. You must be be though because you missed the point of my post.

By RW-(the original)

November 3, 2005 10:27 AM | Link to this

Eric,

Joseph Wilson has been caught in several lies. He even contradicts himself in his own book about his trip to Niger.

The book and his celebrity status, as well as his work in the John Kerry campaign were clearly motives.

If Lewis Libby is convicted of lying to the grand jury he should pay the price. Maybe something like Clinton, a slap on the wrist and lose his law license for a couple of years.

Why do you always fall back on the ridiculous assertion that if anyone doesn’t agree with you that this administration is corrupt then they’re just a pitiful blind loyalist?

By SRF

November 3, 2005 10:34 AM | Link to this

Again - that is not a defense of Libby.

I Never said that he was not indicted.

If he is guilty then he should be punished, simple as that.

As far as this “story” that you say I know nothing about - it has been published - some versions even have satellite photos of supposed locations.

By Wild Sects

November 3, 2005 10:34 AM | Link to this

It’s funny that the first comment is usually from RW or one of the other wingnuts. Do you guys sit at your computer all day and wait for Mike’s latest submission? Geez, get a life already!

By the way - great ‘toon Mike!

By Huh?

November 3, 2005 10:36 AM | Link to this

“No, Huh, I’m not that dense. You must be be though because you missed the point of my post.”

I did not miss your point. You clearly stated “A joke is not very good when you have to explain it, or in your case stick labels on it.”

YOU are an idiot. You said you needed that explained and you clearly do not get the analogy of the words Karl Rove and the leaky faucet.

By Daniel

November 3, 2005 10:39 AM | Link to this

kimberly: Where is Chris, now that we need him? I love this cartoon. It hits a nerve of the “borrow and spend, let’s pretend” crowd.

By gttim

November 3, 2005 10:41 AM | Link to this

If Lewis Libby is convicted of lying to the grand jury he should pay the price. Maybe something like Clinton, a slap on the wrist and lose his law license for a couple of years.

No if Libby is convicted of lying to a federal investigation of the outing of a CIA operative, he showed serve 30 years in jail. Clinton lied in a civil depostition about a private matter, when he should have just said, “none of your business” like Barr and Gingich did. There is no moral equivalence, no matter how much you try to make one.

Why are you wignuts so obsessed with Clinton? The hate blinds you righties. Most liberals do not think that highly of him- he was far to centrist for us.

Make an equivalence out of this- Bush will end up pardoning a staff member who lied about the outing, if not actually outing, a CIA operative. I think Nixon, Agnew and Ford is the only other time anything like this has happened. Oh, and Bush #1 pardoning all the Iran Contra Reagan crooks and liars.

By MrSmileyFace

November 3, 2005 10:42 AM | Link to this

RW made sure he was the first to post after yesterday’s cartoon also……

AT 1:15 IN THE MORNING!!!!!!!!

he must get bonus points for his Limbaugh Jr fan club.

ROFL

By Wild Sects

November 3, 2005 10:43 AM | Link to this

Hey Bobb - political cartoonists have been labeling representative things in their cartoons since the beginning of political cartoons. You need to come up with a real criticicm.

By Andy

November 3, 2005 10:45 AM | Link to this

When did the law establish differing degrees of perjury? Or do you libs bother with laws, innocent until proven guilty and all that?

Consider that the Washington Post leak has endangered actual agents in the field fighting actively for the U.S. versus some pinko weapons of mass destruction analyst in an office building that can’t even do her job properly.

Wild Sects: I wouldn’t brag about lying in bed all day.

By Eric

November 3, 2005 10:52 AM | Link to this

Because it’s true RW. Bush supporters seem to support him no matter what. Look at what a lousy president he’s been in every sense of the word and yet the Bushies still love him. Even people who are harmed by his fascist policies still support him. They ignore their own best interests to support their president. It just doesn’t make sense. Regarding Joe Wilson’s book, have you read it? Where exactly does he contradict himself and please tell me about the several lies he’s been caught in. I have a feeling you’re just repeating something Rush Limbaugh said.

By Wild Sects

November 3, 2005 10:55 AM | Link to this

Wild Sects: I wouldn’t brag about lying in bed all day.

When did I mention lying in bed all day? Are you smokin’ something? That makes about as much sense as voting for Dubya - TWICE! :-)

By kimberly

November 3, 2005 11:10 AM | Link to this

DOUBLE STANDARD, ANYONE?

Repub TX Senator Kay Baily Hutchison in 1999: “I don’t want there to be any lessening of the standard. Because our system of justice depends on people telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. That is the lynch pin of our criminal justice system and I don’t want it to be faded in any way.”

Repub TX Senator Kay Baily Hutchison in 2005: ”..if there is going to be an indictment that says something happened, that it is an indictment on a crime and not some perjury technicality where they couldn’t indict on the crime and so they go to something just to show that their two years of investigation was not a waste of time and taxpayer dollars.”

By Ricky

November 3, 2005 11:11 AM | Link to this

I love when people resort to calling Republicans fascists. It makes for such a good arguement. As for Wilson’s lies, he continues to assert that VP Cheney sent him to Niger after the CIA has said that they sent him. He has stated that his wife was conducting covert operations overseas recently, while the CIA proved that she hadn’t been overseas in over five years. Look, read the Senate Intelligence Commitee report on the subject. It is very interesting and a good read

By RW-(the original)

November 3, 2005 11:17 AM | Link to this

Eric,

No I have not read Joe Wilson book, but he was interrviewed by Chris Mathews who confronted him about various things in his book, with regard to his Niger trip, that contradict his public statements, Wilson said those things were open to interpretation.

Sorry, if I don’t quite take that as the answer of someone on the up and up.

By RW-(the original)

November 3, 2005 11:20 AM | Link to this

gttim,

Even though I don’t agree with you about the Clinton charges, how about a sentence like that of Sandy Berger.

Since you suddenly seem so interested in national security, I’m sure you think stealing and destroying classified documents was serious.

By Ricky

November 3, 2005 11:24 AM | Link to this

Kimberly, yes that is hyprocrisy and a double standard. But c’mon you know it goes from both sides of the aisle. Lets not act like one side is holier than the other. Most politicians are great liars and will say different things to different crowds. There are very few that vote their conscience and not what seems best for their political career. John McCain and Joe Lieberman are probably two of the most honest, but there aren’t many more

By kimberly

November 3, 2005 11:34 AM | Link to this

Ricky, I posted the example without comment. It seems to me that once the cycle begins, it keeps going around. Well YOU did it, so we can. Well YOU got mad when WE did it, so we’ll get mad when YOU do it. If I were going to comment, it would regard the differences between forcing someone to reveal details of their sex lives to the entire world (hey, I’m not talking about MINE!), and answering questions in a serious criminal investigation.

In my humble opinion, though, BOTH McCain and Lieberman had integrity once, but became WHORES. Just my opinion, folks. Gotta work now.

By Ricky

November 3, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this

Kimberly, I am agreeing with you. Our political climate is terrible right now. And it continues to get worse from both sides.

By Bobb

November 3, 2005 11:41 AM | Link to this

Yes, Huh, I clearly said that a joke is not very good when you have to explain it. That is not the same as saying I didn’t get Mike’s joke - a leaky faucet labeled “Rove” being ignored by Bush is not hard to fathom. My point is that if he were a better cartoonist he would not feel the need to resort to crude labels to explain his representative objects. Still not clear? In other words he needs better representative objects. Or maybe a better editor. On the other hand, maybe I’m being too harsh on Mike. He probably has to dumb down his work so pinheads like you will understand it. No wonder you go by “Huh”.

Wild Sects - see response to Huh above (except for the pinhead comment)

By A

November 3, 2005 11:42 AM | Link to this

Ricky: you don’t have to “be” overseas in order to conduct overseas operations. Welcome to the 21st century, buddy.

By Les

November 3, 2005 11:43 AM | Link to this

If Bush had not made it a huge part of his agenda to restore integrity to the White House then perhaps folks wouldn’t be all over Libby’s indictment and potentially others to follow. Classic example of “do as I say; not as I do?”

By Dusty

November 3, 2005 11:44 AM | Link to this

MrSmileyFace,

Are you keeper of the timeclock or something? Maybe RW rather not use company time and company computers to post comments on Luckovich’s doodling. But I don’t care where or when anybody posts. Why don’t you MYOB?

By candide

November 3, 2005 11:46 AM | Link to this

Yes, Virginia, there is a Fascist party in America. It is called the Republican Party.

By Julie

November 3, 2005 11:46 AM | Link to this

Wonderful cartoon, Mike, but then all of them are.

You always have Dubya pictured correctly, and now you have Laura as well. Great work.

By Dr R

November 3, 2005 12:01 PM | Link to this

And the double standard lives. If a Democrat is found guilty of a crime (like the disbarred Bill Clinton), he remains a hero. If a Republican is accused with no indictment, proof or conviction, like Rove, he’s still a crook. This is why partisan nonsense continues unabated.

By RW-(the original)

November 3, 2005 12:01 PM | Link to this

Dusty, Thanks.

Maybe these time divisions wouldn’t be a bad thing. We could get all the “Republicans are fascists” morons out of the way in their time slot and move on to something intelligent.

Did you ever notice that the same people that say Bush and company are fascists also say the federal government isn’t doing enough in local situations? I guess they just like the word since they don’t have a clue what it means.

By sct

November 3, 2005 12:07 PM | Link to this

Hey Dr R, it wasn’t the Democrats that said they were electing Jesus to public office.

By Dr R

November 3, 2005 12:20 PM | Link to this

If Libby is found guilty, so be it. If Rove is indicted and found guilty, so be it. Let’s just not assume someone is guilty of a crime because we don’t agree with their politics. That’s not justice. If the leak suspect were a Democrat, 90 percent of the comments in here would be reversed based on that fact alone. The prevailing attitude is: My guys good, do no wrong; your guys bad, do no right. No wonder we can’t get anything solved.

By kimberly

November 3, 2005 12:21 PM | Link to this

DUDE, I think we know what it means. Stop insulting us.

Fascism: 1 a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition 2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Autocrat 1 : a person (as a monarch) ruling with unlimited authority 2 : one who has undisputed influence or power

By RW-(the original)

November 3, 2005 12:26 PM | Link to this

DUDETTE,

Obviously you don’t or you wouldn’t claim that every tree that ever jumps in front of a car is Bush’s fault.

You wouldn’t claim that the federal government should have complete control of every situation.

And you most certainly wouldn’t be free to call the President a fascist without fear of reprisal.

By kimberly

November 3, 2005 12:30 PM | Link to this

Dude, I never said those things. No one here today said those things. You’re hallucinating again. Are you gonna share what you’re smoking, or hoard it all on principle? RW: Grow your own! Cool people: Can’t! The fascists will arrest us if we do! Hahaha! What a great day.

By Dr R

November 3, 2005 12:34 PM | Link to this

I love it how Bush bashers consider W a moron one minute and the second coming of Hitler the next. C’mon, pick one. He can’t be Gomer Pyle and an evil genius at the same time.

By RW-(the original)

November 3, 2005 12:40 PM | Link to this

Dudette,

You and people that generally agree with you are constantly making these charges by implication and inneuendo and then falling back on the insane arguement of literal statement.

I’ll be away from the computer, I know that breaks your heart, fell free to leave insults and I’ll respond later.

By hewhoasks

November 3, 2005 12:40 PM | Link to this

Great cartoon, Mike. It captures the sense of what Bush is doing perfectly.

By hewhoasks

November 3, 2005 12:41 PM | Link to this

(If only I had an editor that would have read: “It perfectly captures the sense of what Bush is doing.”)

By sct

November 3, 2005 12:48 PM | Link to this

I think of Bush as Gomer Pyle all the way.

Todays good read it is from his ex-fema director, Brownie’s e-mails are a riot!

Last week it was Miers, and Libby. the week before…………….ect……..

(My favorite all tine though was the gay reporter laughfest, James Guckert, who writes under the name Jeff Gannon, of Talon News,)….SUPRISE, SUPRISE, SUPRISE, as Gomer would say.

By kimberly

November 3, 2005 12:51 PM | Link to this

RW: “…falling back on the insane arguement of literal statement.”

Hahahaha! Stop it! It hurts! Hahaha!

By Ricky

November 3, 2005 01:10 PM | Link to this

Candide, is back calling Republicans Fascists again. Never brings any facts, just calls names.

By Chris

November 3, 2005 01:12 PM | Link to this

So what’s the agenda for Dems. today? Any taxes you guys want to raise? Have you all hugged your trees today?

By sct

November 3, 2005 01:25 PM | Link to this

Chris, lets talk TREE HUGGING today!!!!

WASHINGTON (AP) — Rep. Tom DeLay’s staff tried to help lobbyist Jack Abramoff win access to Interior Secretary Gale Norton, an effort that succeeded after Abramoff’s Indian tribe clients began funneling a quarter-million dollars to an environmental group founded by Norton.

By Dusty

November 3, 2005 01:25 PM | Link to this

Kimberly,

Your laughing spells are becoming more and more frequent. Can’t something be done for your hysteria? Maybe it goes with the name calling, the insinuations and other misrepresentations you produce. But don’t let us stop you. You said you had to work. Is that laughable too? And don’t fall back on all the old liberal insults you use.They are much overdone by you & others.

By Ricky

November 3, 2005 01:37 PM | Link to this

Here is another example of the lies Joe Wilson has propogated: On Oct. 3, 2003, Mitchell was a guest on CNBC’s now-defunct “Capital Report,” where she was asked by host Alan Murray: “Do we have any idea how widely known it was in Washington that Joe Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA?” Mitchell replied: “It was widely known among those of us who cover the intelligence community and who were actively engaged in trying to track down who among the foreign service community was the envoy to Niger. So a number of us began to pick up on that.”

By RW-(the original)

November 3, 2005 01:38 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I guess Kimberly doesn’t realize that nuance only takes you so far.

Speaking of nuance, one year ago today

John Francois Kerry surrendered

By sf

November 3, 2005 01:41 PM | Link to this

Wow, how profound. Republicans = facists and democrats = evil communists. SO I guess that makes the rest of us lemmings being led off the cliff?!?!?

By RW-(the original)

November 3, 2005 01:52 PM | Link to this

Yikes,

Doesn’t everyone hate it when the moderates show up?

/just kidding sf //now I’m really leaving

By Teresa

November 3, 2005 01:55 PM | Link to this

RW and Dusty, why can’t you two just get over it? This administration has been caught and no temper tantrums are going to change things. Quit being such bad sports. The men in the little white coats will be here soon to take you away. You’ll be with your own kind, because Zell will be with you.

Mike, love the cartoon. Amazing likeness to Bush and the missus.

By Tex

November 3, 2005 01:57 PM | Link to this

Ahh, all the usual Repub intellectual insects. Using the old gangland practice of denying/avoiding complicity thru solidarity.

By Dr R

November 3, 2005 01:59 PM | Link to this

It’s hard to tell who knew what first among the DC press corps and the polticos they cover. It’s a relationship both symbiotic and parasitic, where operatives use reporters, and often leaks, to get their ideas across. Both parties do it, writers of all ilk do it. That’s why finding who outed Plame is so difficult to prove.

By Eric

November 3, 2005 02:03 PM | Link to this

Would someone, anyone, please tell me why they support Dubya. I’d like to hear just one reasonable, intelligent argument in support of that miserable mistake of a president.

By sct

November 3, 2005 02:04 PM | Link to this

Anyone want to bet that there will be a luckovich cartoon in the near future with a few of these quotes???…..

“Can I quit now?”

“Can I come home?”

“I’m trapped now, please rescue me.”

Oh, it seems Brownie is still getting paid.

(AP)…..Brown is still on the federal payroll at his $148,000 annual salary. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, saying Brown’s expertise was needed as he investigated what went wrong, agreed to a 30-day extension when Brown resigned. Chertoff renewed that extension in mid-October……..

Wow! For his expertise. Wow. An extention! WOW!

By Bobbie

November 3, 2005 02:28 PM | Link to this

Someone mentioned listening to Rush’s radio show. Is that guy still around. I thought he had his own battles with drugs and the Florida authorities trying to keep his little secret.

By Midori

November 3, 2005 02:39 PM | Link to this

You right wingers are very adept at digging up your version of “Wilson Lies”.

I sure as hell wish you would go after Bush’s lies with the same gusto.

By wwwanderer

November 3, 2005 02:53 PM | Link to this

This link may clear the air for some, but others will never see the truth… http://mediamatters.org/topics/plame-controversy.html

By tbomb

November 3, 2005 03:10 PM | Link to this

It amazes me that Republicans that classify themselves as “christian conservatives” find it acceptable to lie, cheat, and steal. To destroy this beautiful earth that God has provided us with. Liberals are referred to as tree huggers in spite because we would rather preserve the earth than to dig up every piece of land to find natural resources that contribute to the ongoing problem of global warming….but I know the global warming is a figment of my imagination.

By tbomb

November 3, 2005 03:10 PM | Link to this

It amazes me that Republicans that classify themselves as “christian conservatives” find it acceptable to lie, cheat, and steal. To destroy this beautiful earth that God has provided us with. Liberals are referred to as tree huggers out of spite because we would rather preserve the earth than to dig up every piece of land to find natural resources that contribute to the ongoing problem of global warming….but I know the global warming is a figment of my imagination.

By Tom

November 3, 2005 03:22 PM | Link to this

Scooter, you ought to be ashamed of yourself!

The New Yorker SCOOTER’S SEX SHOCKER by Lauren Collins Lauren Collins on Libby’s lurid novel. Issue of 2005-11-07 Posted 2005-10-31

Of all the scribbled sentences that have converged to create the Valerie Plame affair, the most remarkable, in literary terms, may belong to Scooter Libby, Dick Cheney’s recently deposed chief of staff. “Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them. Come back to work—and life,� he wrote in a jailhouse note to Judith Miller. Meant as a waiver of confidentiality, the letter touched off the sort of fevered exegesis more often associated with readings of “The Waste Land� than of legal correspondence. For even more difficult prose, however, one must revisit an earlier work. “The Apprentice�—Libby’s 1996 entry in the long and distinguished annals of the right-wing dirty novel—tells the tale of Setsuo, a courageous virgin innkeeper who finds himself on the brink of love and war.

Libby has a lot to live up to as a conservative author of erotic fiction. As an article in SPY magazine pointed out in 1988, from Safire (“[She] finally came to him in the bed and shouted ‘Arragghrrorwr!’ in his ear, bit his neck, plunged her head between his legs and devoured himâ€?) to Buckley (“I’d rather do this with you than play cardsâ€?) to Liddy (“T’sa Li froze, her lips still enclosing Rand’s glans …â€?) to Ehrlichman (“ ‘It felt like a little tongue’ â€?) to O’Reilly (“Okay, Shannon Michaels, off with those pantsâ€?), extracurricular creative writing has long been an outlet for ideas that might not fly at, say, the National Prayer Breakfast. In one of Lynne Cheney’s books, a Republican vice-president dies of a heart attack while having sex with his mistress.

It took Libby more than twenty years to write “The Apprentice,� which is set in a remote Japanese province in the winter of 1903. The book is brimming with quasi-political intrigue and antique locutions—“The girl who wore the cloak of yellow fur�; “one wore backward a European hat�—that make the phrase a “former Hill staffer,� by comparison, seem straightforward.

Like his predecessors, Libby does not shy from the scatological. The narrative makes generous mention of lice, snot, drunkenness, bad breath, torture, urine, “turds,� armpits, arm hair, neck hair, pubic hair, pus, boils, and blood (regular and menstrual). One passage goes, “At length he walked around to the deer’s head and, reaching into his pants, struggled for a moment and then pulled out his p***. He began to p** in the snow just in front of the deer’s nostrils.�

Homoeroticism and incest also figure as themes. The main female character, Yukiko, draws hair on the “mound� of a little girl. The brothers of a dead samurai have sex with his daughter. Many things glisten (mouths, hair, evergreens), quiver (a “pink underlip,� arm muscles, legs), and are sniffed (floorboards, sheets, fingers). The cast includes a dwarf, and an “assistant headman� who comes to restore order after a crime at the inn. (Might this character be autobiographical? And, if so, would that have made Libby the assistant headman or the assistant headman’s assistant?)

When it comes to depicting scenes of romance, however, Libby can evoke a sort of musty sweetness; while one critic deemed “The Apprentice� “reminiscent of Rembrandt,� certain passages can better be described as reminiscent of Penthouse Forum. There is, for example, Yukiko’s seduction of the inexperienced apprentice:

He could feel her heart beneath his hands. He moved his hands slowly lower still and she arched her back to help him and her lower leg came against his. He held her breasts in his hands. Oddly, he thought, the lower one might be larger… . One of her breasts now hung loosely in his hand near his face and he knew not how best to touch her.

Other sex scenes are less conventional. Where his Republican predecessors can seem embarrassingly awkward—the written equivalent of trying to cop a feel while pinning on a corsage—Libby is unabashed:

At age ten the madam put the child in a cage with a bear trained to couple with young girls so the girls would be frigid and not fall in love with their patrons. They fed her through the bars and aroused the bear with a stick when it seemed to lose interest.

And, finally:

He asked if they should f*** the deer.

The answer, reader, is yes.

So, how does Libby stack up against the competition? This question was put to Nancy Sladek, the editor of Britain’s Literary Review, which, each year, holds a contest for bad sex writing in fiction. (In 1998, someone nominated the Starr Report.) Sladek agreed to review a few passages from Libby. “That’s a bit depraved, isn’t it, this kind of thing about bears and young girls? That’s particularly nasty, and the other ones are just boring,� she said. “God, they’re an odd bunch, these Republicans.� Unlike their American counterparts, she said, Tories haven’t taken much to sex writing. “They usually just get caught,� she said.

By Dr R

November 3, 2005 03:26 PM | Link to this

Can’t speak for others, but I don’t condone those who lie, cheat or steal. Show me facts that someone has done so and I’ll join you in condemning them. I just won’t do so based on heresay or speculation outside of actual legal proceedings. Scooter’s been charged, Rove hasn’t. If either is guilty, they should get tossed. Until then, let’s wait for the facts instead of fill them in at our choosing.

As for tree huggers, God did give us a beautiful Earth to take care of, but he also expects us to work for a living to feed our families. We can’t do that when well-intentioned but misguided public policies hurt free enterprise and undermind capitalism. Balance, my friend, that’s what we need. Save the trees, save the jobs, everybody’s happy.

By gadem

November 3, 2005 03:28 PM | Link to this

For the life of me, I can not understand why the supporters of Dubya follow him with blind allegiance. If the supporters of Bush honestly ask themselves are they better off today than they were 6 years ago…well we know the response.

By Alyson

November 3, 2005 03:35 PM | Link to this

Nominated for Most Courageous Man of the Year, none other than former head of FEMA Michael “Can I Go Home?” Brown.

By Dr R

November 3, 2005 03:37 PM | Link to this

Better to ask this: If you are better or worse off, it is because of the guy in the White House either way? Too many of us want to credit or blame government leaders for everything. Example: Those who discuss how the president “handles” the economy. There’s no such thing; the economy can be affected, but is not driven, by White House policy. It’s emblematic of the mindset that we have no control of our own lives or destiny because we have willed that to our elected hired hands. Can’t buy that.

By gadem

November 3, 2005 03:48 PM | Link to this

Dr. R, How can you say that the economy is not driven by WH policy? In which reality do you reside? Explain to me how is outsourcing jobs good for the economy…how is that good for the citizens? We were told that by companies doing such, it would lower prices and so on and so forth. I have yet to see any lower prices. To be blind to how WH policies directly affect you is sad indeed.

By concerned citizen

November 3, 2005 03:53 PM | Link to this

I’d say the White House has a profound effect on the economy considering how much of America’s hard earned tax dollars are p** away in Iraq, defending the indefensable, rebuilding things only to have them blown up the next day. You don’t think those events, and others around the world that are a direct result of WH policy don’t effect the economy? If so you are a fool. An economy is an extention of public perception. If the public perceives there is instability (and in this case perception is reality), then the economy will reflect it.

By Dr R

November 3, 2005 03:56 PM | Link to this

And the White House can do what about it? My reality is that economic forces are what they are, for better or worse. Government did not create the industrial revolution, the high-tech boom or outscourcing. It can only react to them and mitigate their effect. Our economy is a massive ocean liner adrift in the tides; government is but a little tugboat that can nudge it along and hope it follows course. Only a true socialist state can change economic policy with a snap of a finger and we’re not quite there yet, thank God. You simply want someone to blame when conditions don’t favor you. Sometimes, the guy in the Oval deserves it, but not all the time.

By Dr R

November 3, 2005 04:00 PM | Link to this

Having said that, though, if you want someone to defend Bush and the GOP on the basis of their free-spending, budget-busting policies that indeed are having a negative impact on our bottom line, I won’t do that. My only point is that not all of our economic ails are the result of presidential fiat. Pick and choose those that are and we can have a good discussion. The war is a good example; outsourcing, the result of free trade and high-tech advances, is not.

By Les

November 3, 2005 04:00 PM | Link to this

Anyone following the Delay delays? He doesn’t want a judge who donated to democratic causes. In a case of t** for tat, the prosecutor is objecting to a judge, who has given to republican cause, selecting the judge who will eventually hear the case. Where does this end? Do 2 judges hear the case - one dem and one repub? What if there’s a tie? 2 out of 3? 3 out of 5? Has anyone out there ever been able to choose the judge that hears their case? I’m losing what little respect I had for Mr. Delay.

By kimberly

November 3, 2005 04:12 PM | Link to this

How ‘bout a judicial process that takes a keen interest in the TRUTH? Everybody screams about everyone else’s agenda and biases… what about TRUTH? Nah… It’ll never happen here. Wish there was something to have faith in.

By E.G. Salomon

November 3, 2005 04:15 PM | Link to this

While I do get what he implies in this particular cartoon, I have to say that this one’s poorly executed.

For instance, the faucet looks like it’s spitting rather than leaking.

And then there’s Bush’s “punchline”…

I’m not a highly paid cartoonist, but heck, I can think like several options that could had been funnier than just stating the obvious. Ex:

1) “Leak? What leak?” 2) “there IS no leak…” 3) ears plugged “LALALALALALA!” 4) Bush sleeping with earemuffs while the room’s being flooded by said leak 5) Etc.

Frankly, it’s the equivalent of a cartoon of a chicken crossing the road and having it say: “I have to get to the other side.”

Seriously…

By gadem

November 3, 2005 04:15 PM | Link to this

I was just reading about that Les. Well I guess when you have money and are well connected you can call your own shots.

By WhatABlast

November 3, 2005 04:19 PM | Link to this

I’d always suspected that the truth would rear its ugly head, and the outcome of the 2004 election finally confirmed that most Americans who voted really are stupid.

By Midori

November 3, 2005 04:24 PM | Link to this

WhatABlast — take a look at this:

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1529

By Pierce

November 3, 2005 04:25 PM | Link to this

I Support Patrio-Fascist Groupthink.

By Midori

November 3, 2005 04:27 PM | Link to this

GOP changes tune on perjury

WASHINGTON — Even before Vice President Cheney’s chief aide, Lewis “Scooter� Libby, was indicted, Republican leaders began to argue that being charged with perjury was a no big deal, but rather a “technicality� that proved that Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald hadn’t found evidence of a serious crime. But that isn’t what they were saying in the 1990s when the accused was Democratic Pres. Bill Clinton.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-TN, called perjury and obstruction of justice — both alleged in the Libby indictment — “public crimes threatening the administration of justice.” House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-IL, described Clinton’s lies about sex as a serious enough violation of public trust to warrant impeachment.

Calling on Clinton to resign, Former House Majority Leader Rep. Tom DeLay, R-TX, now under indictment himself for money laundering, told the Los Angeles Times that his reason was “based solely on the fact that the president lied,” while Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-UT, called lying under oath “very serious indeed.â€? Sen. Arlen Specter, R-PA, said “perjury and obstruction of justice are serious offenses which must not be tolerated by anyone in our society.”

Conservative TV personalities eager to diminish the importance of the charges against Libby were equally convinced that similar charges against Clinton called for his removal from office. “Certainly, perjury is a felony, the last time I checked,” said Sean Hannity, and Bill O’Reilly called it “abuse of power.â€? Describing perjury as “pretty important,â€? CNN’s Ann Coulter noted that, along with making false statements and objecting justice, it had made Clinton’s misdeeds a “much bigger deal.”

http://www.vermontguardian.com/dailies/112005/1102.shtm…

By WhatABlast

November 3, 2005 04:29 PM | Link to this

A first grade teacher is explaining to her class that she is a Republican and how nice it is that a new Republican president has taken office. She asks her students to raise their hands if they, too, are Republicans and support George Bush. Everyone in class raises their hands except one little girl. “Mary,” says the teacher with surprise, “why didn’t you raise your hand?” Because I’m not a Republican,” says Mary. “Well, what are you?” asks the teacher. “I’m a Democrat and proud of it,” replies the little girl. The teacher cannot believe her ears. “My goodness, Mary, why are you a Democrat?” she asks. “Well, my momma and papa are Democrats, so I’m a Democrat, too.” “Well,” says the teacher in an annoyed tone, “that’s no reason for you to be a Democrat. You don’t always have to be like your parents. What if your momma was a criminal and your papa was a criminal, too, what would you be then?” “Then,” Mary smiled, “then we’d be Republicans.”

By Dusty

November 3, 2005 04:30 PM | Link to this

Dr. R,

Nice to read your voice of moderation and clear thinking. Makes a very thoughtful and decent discussion.

And speaking of decent, TOM, reader and copier of dirty books, you are on the wrong blog. This one is not for obscenities. Obviously, you are trying to add discredit to Libby. Fitzgerald doesn’t care if he wrote “Green Eggs and Ham” or the Rosetta stone. Deliver your offensive information elsewhere before we find out what kind of person YOU really are.

By gadem

November 3, 2005 04:32 PM | Link to this

WhatABlast, I would not resort to name calling. I would not classify those that voted for Bush as stupid, but uninformed or mislead. Some people will actually cut off their nose to spite their face…I say that because I see people everyday that voted for Bush, but are now struggling to make ends meet. It still amazes me that he was re-elected after squandering away the surplus that he did. As one conservative radio show host screamed at me during the election time after one of Bush’s horrible debates, The surplus was not actual, it was only projected…well my response to him was Is it better to have a projected surplus or deficit?

By WhatABlast

November 3, 2005 04:32 PM | Link to this

What do George Bush and Hurricana Katrina have in common?

They were the two worst disasters to hit America.

By WhatABlast

November 3, 2005 04:37 PM | Link to this

How many Bush supporters does it take to change a light bulb?

Six, one to turn the bulb and five to create a related tax loophole for the rich.

By Andy

November 3, 2005 05:24 PM | Link to this

You pinko libs should check out what is happening in France, your favorite country. Socialism Central. Appeasement Monkey Founding Fathers Surrender Society. Their default position being German occupation. I guess the terrorists don’t want to talk feelings with them.

I wonder if they’ll bad mouth us when we come to their rescue, again?

By Dr R

November 3, 2005 05:30 PM | Link to this

Not stupid or uniformed or misled, just of a different mindset. I don’t think people who vote differently from me are somehow inferior intellectually. Our political views are based on our backgrounds, the events that shaped our values, and, in some cases, some actual cognitive reasoning. Which is why I went from GDI to Republican back to a GDI Libertarian who sees thieves and knights on both sides of the aisle. Yet when I struggle financially (and I do), it is because of the decisions I make, not the swinging J in the White House. Someone struggling to make ends meet should start the road back by looking in the mirror.

The jokes, however, are always fair game. Hey, we hire these guys; we ought to be able to make fun of them. That’s why Luckovich only bugs me when he skews the facts, not because of his views (or W’s honking big ears).

By Dusty

November 3, 2005 06:25 PM | Link to this

Ah, Dr. R, what a diplomat you are. I love that “thieves and knights”. It is so nice that you can see both sides of the aisle. I really have trouble with that for myself. As more and more unfairness builds which is the way I see it, there is no way I remain neutral. Hopefully, I have achieved knighthood while I swing my sword (which is more like a nail file). Which brings me to Luckovich and the war. He has announced his anti-war feelings and he has every right to do so. But he uses his public paid position to spread his one and only opinionated pieces without wavering. And I truly think that his almost daily drawings are detrimental to the troops, their families and our elected officials. Maybe I overstate his importance. And surely I am prejudiced because I can no longer look at his cartoons with any favor. I know there are knights and thieves, but the thieves seem to be outnumbering the others. And there goes any feeble attempt I have for moderation.

By rushncap

November 3, 2005 06:44 PM | Link to this

Wow, Andy, all that bile. You must be a hoot at parties. FYI, France is a wonderful country, but I’m glad you’ll never go there. We don’t need more “ugly Americans” images all over the world.

By Joseph

November 3, 2005 06:47 PM | Link to this

On foreign policy, taxation, and all the rest:

I’m no fan of this president, but I don’t believe him to be the problem.

The problem is Congress. What can the President do without the approval of Congress? Close to nothing. The only important powers he has is a) presidential pardon b) act has the “first General.” Note that generals don’t get to decide which countries we go to war with.

All presidents seem to believe the Constitution gives them the power to declare war. They’re mistaken, as it does not.

Article II, Section 8:

“The Congress shall have Power To… declare War”

By Steve SC

November 3, 2005 06:48 PM | Link to this

People like Andy ought to put their money where their mouth is and try breaking into a nuclear installation in France. You wouldn’t live to tell the tale. From my experience dealing with French troops 30 years ago, I wouldn’t try messing with them.

By Andy

November 3, 2005 07:07 PM | Link to this

rushncap: 1000 times more Americans died in France than have in Iraq, all so that you can admire it’s beauty and the French can obstruct our sovereign right of self defense, which brought them more oil money, stolen from starving children, from a dictator. The place you won’t find me is at one of your pinko parties.

The next time you visit France, maybe you will get to fly “Immigrant” Air. Oh, I forgot, they don’t know how to take off or land.

By RW-(the original)

November 3, 2005 07:44 PM | Link to this

Other than hoping to, one day, further hypenate the name of our airport. Does anybody know why Shirley Franklin is running a campaign ad every 2 or 3 minutes?

By brtnysprswntsme

November 3, 2005 09:45 PM | Link to this

Mike… you rock. keep it up. i’ve followed your work in Newsweek and now that i live in ATL, i can follow the cartoons more closely.

hey conservatives… when left-wingers bash W, they’re not bashing the troops.

By Tex

November 4, 2005 12:37 AM | Link to this

Shucks now. Andy & Dr. R are just plumb very, very sick folks. Got ta cut unm some slack w illnesses that deep.

By Jay

November 4, 2005 01:12 AM | Link to this

Tex, you have no brains, you have obv iously not ever had a class in basic ecomonmics.

By brtnysprswntsme

November 4, 2005 01:25 AM | Link to this

anybody see that FEMA chief’s emails? wow, talk about your A-list leaders.

Hey Conservatives… make sure you all get your dogsitters in line before going to work.

By Tom

November 4, 2005 07:54 AM | Link to this

Dusty, Scooter and company are sex perverts and phony Christians, and furthermore, you don’t have the authority to tell anyone where or how to blog.

By Dusty

November 4, 2005 08:18 AM | Link to this

Tom, I have the “authority” to post my opinion on this blog. That is what you read. You didn’t like it. Too bad. I didn’t like yours either.

By Tom

November 4, 2005 10:41 AM | Link to this

Dusty, I never questioned your authority to post on this blog, and you know it. You told me to go elsewhere to post, it is in writing. As I said, you have no authority to tell me or anyone else where or how to post. And I don’t care what you like or dislike. You matter not one iota to me.

By TrueConservative

November 5, 2005 08:49 AM | Link to this

Dusty- how is it that Luckovitch’s cartoon is “detrimental to the troops” and sending thousands of 18 year old kids who cant even say ‘Hello’ in arabic into a nation you just bombed without armor is not- do you really think that ALL military families and troops agree with you or that ANY of them appriciate being strung up en masse by their leader so that tools like you will react this way? heres a clue just because the person who said it has an (R) next to his name doesnt make him your savior and just because he has a (D) that doesnt make him the antichrist

I dont trust ANY of those bastards in washington but at least i can read the writing on the wall. Im so sick of that moronic argument ‘free speech is detremental to troops’ (but bullets arent)

By TrueConservative

November 5, 2005 08:55 AM | Link to this

as for the leak, allow me to reiterate-

Of course the Vice President didnt know anything about this ‘corruption’and he certainly didnt hear anything about it when he rode to work in the limo with Scooter Libby EVERY DAY.

Incedentally do you remember when that guy got pulled over downtown with a pound of cocaine and a AK-47 and the police assumed the guy in the seat next to him didnt know anything about it and didnt even search him-yeah I remember that.

Of course those are filthy poor poeple. Filthy rich people dont ever do anything wrong. There was no genicide in the 3rd largest oil producing nation because of President Exon P. Valdez… youre just paranoid- silly Liberals

let me just hit the snooze button…

By Ricky

November 5, 2005 09:14 AM | Link to this

TrueConservative, why is it that when critics of the war talk about the troops they always refer to them as young kids. But when these same critics talk about abortion they say a 14 yr old is old enough to make a decision about ending a child’s life. That has never added up to me. I have done two tours in Iraq. I am not a kid and I choose to join up on my own. And the majority of the soldiers over there aren’t 18 as you say.

By TrueConservative

November 6, 2005 12:53 AM | Link to this

I didnt say anything about a majority- If you want to convince me then present truth to me, show me how Im wrong dont twist my words to suit your ends.

There are (as I said) thousands of kids over there who arent old enough to drink but are aparently old enough to die for oil. Do you really think some cartoon is more demoralizing to troops than the questionability of their mission? Thank you for serving in the armed forces. Having done so, surely you are aware that there are many in Iraq who arent lining up to give Bush a reach around just because he’s the commander and chief, hell you might owe some of them your life. People come in here all the time and try to silence people like me who agree with THEM, dont you think thats more demoralizing than any cartoon? Dissent is the basis for Democracy my friend and I will gladly tell the ugly truth before I will tell a beautiful lie.

As for abortion- the question is not if a 14 year old has the right to decide not to carry an embryo to term- the question is if YOU, or the government or the Church have the right to FORCE her to carry that child to term and either give up her life (cause lord knows the boys wont bear any responsibility) in order to raise that child or to give her baby up for adoption. My mother was 16 when I was born- imagine the living hell for both of us if some bastard in washington FORCED her to have me rather than leaving that choice to her. It was hard enough growing up with my Mother- but you are talking about indescriminantly forcing little girls to become parents to the detriment of mother AND child or else casting another unwanted child to abusive foster homes or orphanages. If you really cared about LIFE- you would put your time and energy into those orphaned kids who are already here- Living, Breathing, Thinking, Feeling, Suffering kids. Illegalizing abortion isnt a solution- it never was. If you really wanted to stop abortions from happening you would support sex education that tells kids the TRUTH instead of trying to scare them into abstenence by telling them they can get HIV from tears. Making contriception and education available so that when they do experiment with sex they can at least be safe and avoid disease and children having children. Try something that actually works to curb abortion instead of making women property to be bought and sold, cutting programs that help those orphaned kids and putting more teenage families on the street and calling that a ‘culture of life’

By Papatort

November 6, 2005 08:55 AM | Link to this

The drip-drip-drip cartoon would have been okay if, instead of Rove’s name on the leaking faucet, it said “White House” on the faucet. There’s no proof that Rove is the leak but, alas, there probably is at least one.

By TrueConservative

November 6, 2005 10:43 AM | Link to this

I agree papatort- the cartoon would have been more poignent had the faucet just read ‘white house’