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By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2005 09:31 PM | Link to this

Let’s see Sam Alito makes a states rights arguement in a case that dealt with spousal notification and ml turns him into an anti-womens rights troglodyte.

ml aren’t these scribblings of yours supposed to have at least a grain of truth?

Look Andy, a comment on the cartoon. Happy now?

By Robert A

October 31, 2005 10:01 PM | Link to this

Mike usually hits the nail on the head.

By Alexander

November 1, 2005 01:29 AM | Link to this

Leave it to President Proselyte to turn All Hallow’s Eve into an opportunity for an affirimation toward his faithful. Ugh!

By candide

November 1, 2005 05:04 AM | Link to this

Alito would bring 5 Catholics to the Court. This son of old Italy will have women wearing black and walking behind their husbands, as they do in Calabria and Sicily. What have we come to?

Pasta and grits.

By Andy

November 1, 2005 06:05 AM | Link to this

It looks like the democrats have formed their thought. It is so deep, so thought provoking, it is almost cosmic.

Well actually, it looks awfully familiar. Isn’t this the same one they’ve gotten beat on the last ten times they tried it? Cartoon boy hasn’t run out of original ideas, has he?

By MB

November 1, 2005 07:00 AM | Link to this

Right on the mark as always, Mike. States rights do not measure above the Constitutional rights of individuals. Anyone who would rule that a wife must notify her husband (or visa versa) before any medical procedure does not deserve a seat on the Supreme Court.

By Dusty

November 1, 2005 07:47 AM | Link to this

If Luckovich is against a nominee for the Supreme Court, I am reassured that this nominee is a good one for the Court. But when Congress starts questioning Judge Alito, that will be an interesting time. As Candide has so adroitly pointed out, Alito is a Catholic son of old Italy. One to watch in the Senate is Ted Kennedy, son of old Ireland and brother of the first Catholic president in the USA. Kennedy tries to rip apart any Bush nominee. Will the political winds blow strong enough to keep Ted in his usual negative and Democratic state?

By Daniel

November 1, 2005 07:48 AM | Link to this

Laugh-out-loud funny yet still has me weeping for the future of this country.

By Ricky

November 1, 2005 07:58 AM | Link to this

Wow couldn’t see this one coming. Lucko make a mockery of Bush nominee? Say it aint so. Lets get the facts out there. Alito was confirmed by two Democratic Senates unanimously. So most of the same people that voted for him twice are now going to vote against. That should be fun to watch. You know that Schumer, Kennedy, Durbin, et al are going to vote no due to their special interests commitments. But lets think about this. Ginsberg is one of the most liberal members of the court and was general counsel of the ACLU, one of the most liberal organizations in America. Yet when she was nomiated she received 97 votes in the Senate. Why? Because Republicans vote on qualifications not on a litmus test like most of the Democratic leadership does. So yet again we are going to be subjected to the Democratic hyprocrisy. We will get to listen to Ralph Neas and company bash this judge, who Democratic Senator Frank Lauttenberg described as the kind of judge America needs when Alito was nominated for the appelate court. This is why Dems lose the arguement on judges. And will lose this one too.

By Matt

November 1, 2005 08:04 AM | Link to this

Thanks for bashing the Catholics Candide. Shows once again the only prejuidice condoned by the left is against Catholics.

By Malachi

November 1, 2005 08:11 AM | Link to this

So Dusty, how was the cult meeting last night? Did you drink some of the kool-aid being passed out by Limbaugh, Hannity, and O’Reilly? Did you get your dingy brown robe dirty during the Bush Cult Rally?

How many times did you chant “I love Bush. He does no wrong. He is God.”?

By Matt

November 1, 2005 08:17 AM | Link to this

Well Malachi, at least you provide comic relief, since you bring no substantive arguements to the table. You bash on Dusty, saying he just quotes talking points and conservatives. Don’t you do the same with liberals.

By G.

November 1, 2005 08:22 AM | Link to this

Mike, I love it! Totally appropriate. Thank you.

By Dan

November 1, 2005 08:23 AM | Link to this

G, why is it appropriate? Because Judge Alito thought wives should tell their husbands they were having an abortion? Don’t just blindly support lefty lucko, provide some substance

By candide

November 1, 2005 08:28 AM | Link to this

The reason Bush chose another Catholic is that he can always claim criticism of his nominee is anti-Catholic bigotry. Since catholics were not long ago victims of dicrimination this tactic works. But it is obviously the exploitation of religion for partisan purposes. Bush, remember, said that Jesus was his favorite philospher!

By Wild Sects

November 1, 2005 08:55 AM | Link to this

Right on the money Mike! Requiring women to inform their husbands about things regarding their own bodies is archaic. This is 2005 people. It’s time to get ourselves out of this backslide to the dark ages that the right has us on.

By Chris

November 1, 2005 09:04 AM | Link to this

Mark I am not here to brag sir. I just know there are people out here who only know what the media tells them. For your information, I was stationed in Kurkuk Air Base, in Jan ‘02, Bagdad Inter. summer of ‘03, and last year I was at Al Udeid Air Base, Qatar doing security for C130s flying in and out of Iraq carrying prisoners. And also, I never said “have supreme knowledge on military matters or the mindset of soldiers simply because you may have served 3� I just know that the people over there love us and are a happier bunch as a whole. We have done great things for that nation and I applaud all of our gov’t, not just the pres.

By Eric

November 1, 2005 09:06 AM | Link to this

Alito may actually be a good nominee to the Supreme Court. He may have all the necessary experience and he may be very well qualified. The problem I have with the man is that Dubya and the extreme right wing love him. That’s enough for me to oppose the nomination. If Dubya likes him, he’s a lousy choice.

By gttim

November 1, 2005 09:07 AM | Link to this

Remember all nominees should get an up or down vote. Unless the conservative whiners don’t want them to, than they don’t.

The GOP will now whip everybody up into a frenzy with lies and distortions, and scream about abortions. In reality this nomination is not about abortion or gays. It is about putting a crony of the huge corporations on the SC so he can weaken individual rights, give more rights to corporations (say activist judges), and strip away all environmental protections. The rich, which is not anybody reading the AJC, get richer, and the middle class become their servant class.

By Bobb

November 1, 2005 09:19 AM | Link to this

Luckovich has completely misrepresented Judge Alito’s position in the court decision which so obviously inspired today’s cartoon. A more appropriate caption would be, “We actually voted for Judge Alito, before we voted against him”, since several of the drawn Senators where among those who praised and supported Alito when he was unanimously approved for a Federal judgeship by a Democratically controlled Senate.

Folks, there is nothing here but the usual self-serving, special-interest hypocrisy, but that is what modern liberalism and this small-minded “newspaper” have come to represent.

By Ricky

November 1, 2005 09:20 AM | Link to this

Well Eric you just summed up what is wrong with the Democratic Party. While you admit that Alito is qualified and will probably make a good justice you oppose him simply because he was nominated by Bush. That makes alot of sense. And you guys wonder why Dems keep losing elections. And gttim, wow, that is a passage right out of the Dem playbook. Good job. It isn’t the Republicans that scream about abortion, it is the left. That is why they will vote against him. That is their litmus test. And if you really think he is going to strip away all enviromental proctections, you are just wrong. And to say that no rich people read the AJC is laughable. Because we all know there are no rich people in Atlanta. C’mon at least make a coherent arguement.

By Malachi

November 1, 2005 09:43 AM | Link to this

Well Matt, since you are showing up late at the party, you missed the glorious bashing that liberals received yesterday afternoon from Chris and Dusty. They had their fun talking about liberals dancing around the campfire, getting t-shirts from Michael Moore and comic strips from Mike Luckovich. They talked about a smelly liberal beating the drum. Were those constructive arguments? I don’t think so. Check your facts before you step me, um ‘kay?

By Matt

November 1, 2005 09:46 AM | Link to this

Malachi, no those aren’t constructive arguements. But I have seen you on several threads making comments that are only slams against Republicans, not any ideas

By Eric

November 1, 2005 09:46 AM | Link to this

Want a coherent argument in opposition to a Bush nominee? Here it is. George W. Bush is has about five years of experience doing what he does. He has neither the intelligence, the experience or the capability to make such a dramatic impact on the history of this nation. He has demonstrated over and over again that his decision making capabilities are flawed. He’s been propped up by his family and his political supporters his entire life. He has no sense of history and no curiosity about history. He follows his gut and refuses to acknowledge his numerous and varied mistakes. He is not qualified to make such important nominations. Look at the Miers nomination as just one example. I don’t trust George Bush and I don’t like George Bush. I am convinced that he is the WORST president this country has ever encountered. Therefore, I don’t trust his judgement concerning Supreme Court nominees. Coherent?

By Matt

November 1, 2005 09:55 AM | Link to this

Eric, at least you make me laugh. Bashing on Bush’s intelligence has gotten old. Yes there have been mistakes made in the Bush administration. Guess what, it happens in all administrations. I am not one of those people that think he is perfect. But I do think he is better than Kerry or Gore would have been. You say he has about five years experience in his job. How many did Clinton have when he nominated Ginsberg or Breyer, did that make you not trust those judements? Obviously you are tinted by your ideology and that is fine. But most of you arguements(lack of intelligence, propped up by his family, et al) are tired democratic talking points. He has been underestimated his whole career. Obviously you are in the minority since he was elected twice.

By kimberly

November 1, 2005 10:14 AM | Link to this

Matt: you owe Eric an apology. Bashing Bush’s intelligence and competence (lack thereof) never gets old, because he still has limited intelligence and appears to be getting less competent with experience, not more competent as one would expect from anyone on the job for five years. This latest appointment was made to appease the facio-theocratic base that spanked him for failing to obey the last time. Bush does NOT care about rights: yours, mine, male, female, brown, black, white or blue. He only wants to appease his handlers and get back to his golf game. He does NOT care about America, our future, our allies, or our planet. Period.

By Chris

November 1, 2005 10:17 AM | Link to this

Malachi, I don’t bash anyone. There are some very good liberals out there. look at zell miller. I just want people to know the facts before they oppose a war and don’t even know why they oppose it.

By RW-(the original)

November 1, 2005 10:21 AM | Link to this

Eric,

Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution disagrees with you.

There is a process for changing this, but saying “Bush is stupid” probably won’t get it done.

The most ridiculous thing about all these anti-Alito arguements is that the very same things were said about Stevens, O’Conner, Kennedy, and Souter. I hope the libs are right this time. We could use another originalist on the bench.

By Chris

November 1, 2005 10:23 AM | Link to this

And another thing, Bush may not be a good public speaker, we all know that, but how can you possibly say he is dumb? Let’s look at the facts, which, from what I’ve noticed, dems don’t take the time to do: gard. from YALE with a bach. degree in history, and went to grad. school at HARVARD with a master’s of Business Administration. Where did you go to school kimberly? Perimeter or did you venture down to millidgeville for a semester or two?

By Chris

November 1, 2005 10:25 AM | Link to this

That was grad. not gard, sorry I’m at work and I have to type fast!!!

By Chris

November 1, 2005 10:27 AM | Link to this

Eric-worst pres. ever? I can list a few, nixon for one, or what about clinton? He tainted the white house, scarred it, shamed our nation in more ways than one.

By Ricky

November 1, 2005 10:28 AM | Link to this

Kimberly is backing calling republicans facists again. It must be so easy just to lump a group together and call them names. Oh wait thats called stereotyping. I thought libs were against this.

By kimberly

November 1, 2005 10:45 AM | Link to this

Haha… No I did not go to Harvard or Yale. I did get accepted to and finish college on my own merits, though, not because I had a rich powerful family. Hey, y’all lump yourselves into whatever group you want; that’s not my job. If you want to waste your breath telling us what a great job Bush is doing, go right ahead. I maintain that Bush screws us over with every decision he makes, and [I believe] he’s perfectly happy doing that. WE are his responsibility, and just like a drunk daddy who beats up mommy every night, HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT US. Any of us. Give him a drink, already, you know he’s dying for one!

By Ricky

November 1, 2005 10:47 AM | Link to this

So did John Kery get through Yale because of his family too Kimberly or does that just pertain to Bush? Do you really think he doesn’t care about Americans? If you do, I am sorry. And now you are comparing him to a alcoholic wife beater, thats cute.

By Chris

November 1, 2005 10:49 AM | Link to this

Ok kimberly, maybe we were gaining up against you, apologies. But if he is doing such a terrible job, do something about it. Please please please don’t tell me you are one of those who complains but didn’t vote. Oh I hate those people. Try running for office, if “that idiot” could make it, why can’t you?

By Midori

November 1, 2005 10:51 AM | Link to this

So, Chris — tell me.

It’s ok that Bush has tainted the white house, scarred it, shamed our nation in more ways than one?

By kimberly

November 1, 2005 10:55 AM | Link to this

Chris, thank you for asking and not assuming. Yes, I vote, participate, and write to my elected officials all the time, and not just to whine, but to address specific issues and how these issues affect the citizens who are NOT wealthy enough to buy their Congressman’s concern. But they are busy rubber-stamping what they’re told by the leaders of their D.C. Frat. My opinion means nothing without a big fat campaign contribution attached. “Brother Bluto says Yea on this one, Nay on that one, and HERE: Trot this pie chart out for the C-SPAN cameras and do a little dance. Good boy. You may have another beer now.”

By Matt

November 1, 2005 10:58 AM | Link to this

Midori, there have been several Presidents that have shamed the White House, both libs and conservatives. Just from 1960, lets look at it, Nixon, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, and Bush. So it cuts both ways. I would just like to see you admit that Dems have screwed up too.

By Chris

November 1, 2005 11:01 AM | Link to this

Carter, how could I forget maybe the worst modern era president, thanks Matt!

By kimberly

November 1, 2005 11:01 AM | Link to this

Ricky, SWEARTOGOD, I truly believe he doesn’t care. Thanks for your apology. And yes, he IS actually an alcoholic, which is why he can’t touch it without losing control. The wife-beater stuff was a metaphor for how I feel when I watch the America I grew up believing in being stuffed into an oil barrell, along with the truth, our civil rights and justice system, and flushed into the very polluted Gulf of Mexico. Those are MY feelings. Feel free to express yours, while we still can.

By Midori

November 1, 2005 11:02 AM | Link to this

Matt,

Yes — I will admit that Dems have screwed up, too. I don’t like what Clinton did, however, I can’t compare his misdeeds to Bush’s.

No one died when Clinton lied.

Most in your party want to gloss over Bush’s incompetence/misdeeds/lies, and hold Clinton up as the poster boy for a bad presidency.

By Midori

November 1, 2005 11:04 AM | Link to this

Chris — regardless of Carter’s failings in your view — at least he was a REAL Christian, rather than a fake and a drunk.

By Ricky

November 1, 2005 11:05 AM | Link to this

Kimberly, obviously we disagree on this situation. But that is fine, that is what makes our country great, we can have a public forum. In my humble opinion I think people go to extremes in their opinions of Bush. We have become so polarized, which is the fault of both parties, that we starting making extreme comments. Do you honestly think the President is purposely destroying the country? I don’t. I don’t think he is ruining our justice system or our civil rights. And we aren’t going to lose the right to express ourselves anytime soon. What I don’t like is the exremism. I can admint Bush has screwed up several times. Lets have an honest debate on the issues. That is what our political parties need to get back to, both of them.

By Chris

November 1, 2005 11:06 AM | Link to this

So it is Bush’s “fault” that soldiers have diedBusiness Administrationosted these quotes yest. but they need to be read again: A nation which makes the final sacrifice for life and freedom does not get beaten. ~ Kemal Atatürk ~
In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility — I welcome it. ~ John F. Kennedy ~
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. ~ Thomas Paine ~
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and success of liberty. John Fitzgerald Kennedy, 35th president of the United States of America
The meaning of America is not to be found in a life without toil. Freedom is not only bought with a great price; it is maintained by unremitting effort. (Calvin Coolidge)

…”If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be even a worse fate. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”
— Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill on the eve of Britain’s entry into World War II

I regret that I only have one life to lose for my country--- Nathan Hale

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

Makes you wonder about the sacs. of war.

By Ricky

November 1, 2005 11:07 AM | Link to this

See Midori, you can’t even have a rational discussion with you. All you want to do is call names and slander people. At least Kimberly provides well thought out opinions. I can respect her and her opinion although I might not agree.

By Chris

November 1, 2005 11:09 AM | Link to this

Midori-read a book or something

By Chris

November 1, 2005 11:11 AM | Link to this

Yeah-I agree Ricky, at least kimberly tries to backup her opinions rather than saying something like “my pres. canidate can beat up your pres. canidate”!

By Matt

November 1, 2005 11:12 AM | Link to this

Midori, people did die due to Clinton’s imcompetence. When he did nothing after the first WTC bombings, the embassy bombings, the USS Cole. People died in all of this while he was getting a BJ from an intern. Why did we get attacked on 9/11? Becuase Osama had seen that Clinton did nothing after the other terrorists attacks and thought he could get away with it. He was wrong, Bush wouldn’t stand for the murder of Americans

By Chris

November 1, 2005 11:13 AM | Link to this

One more quote, sorry to bore everyone:

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. - Thomas Jefferson

By Chris

November 1, 2005 11:14 AM | Link to this

Matt, don’t forget about the Vietnam-like debacle in Somolia

By Matt

November 1, 2005 11:15 AM | Link to this

Yep Chris, you are right, another example of Clinton cutting and running and in the process emboldening the terrorists

By Oh The Humanity

November 1, 2005 11:18 AM | Link to this

This blog has been reduced to children using nothing than school yard taunts.

Hey guess what?? None of you have said anything remotely intelligent in todays blog!!! None of you.

Mindless drivel all of it.

By kimberly

November 1, 2005 11:18 AM | Link to this

Ricky, I agree with you. The polarization is very disheartening. I have been trying to have reasonable discourse with people on the issues for years. But the culture of smearing the character of the messenger instead of addressing the facts and issues has completely taken over! “You’re with us or against us!” has become more important than facts or principles. The story, the rules, the ethics change daily to prop up the ruling party. Who is there that actually cares about the truth? HONESTTOGOD I wish I could believe that we, the American people, were better than that, but I’m just not seeing it. Not enough to make a difference, anyway.

By Ricky

November 1, 2005 11:21 AM | Link to this

Kimberly, you are exactly right, the character assination that goes on by both sides is reprehensible. I really do wish we could get back to honest debates. We need to get big money out of politics. I don’t know if that will ever happen though

By Jake

November 1, 2005 11:22 AM | Link to this

Funny cartoon. However, Mike appears, like most, to have only listened to the pundits who talk about Judge Alito’s opinion in Casey, and have not read it. The state law required a wife to notify her husband that she was terminating the life of their offspring, UNLESS she feared for her safety, her husband was not the father, the child was the product of forced intercourse, or other exceptions. Moreover, he simply ruled that the state legislature had the right to make that law. Judges / Justices do not decide if a law is good or bad, only if it is Constitutional. HUGE difference that many seem to forget.

By kimberly

November 1, 2005 11:23 AM | Link to this

Hey MATT, do you think if the FBI hadn’t been so busy combing the trailer parks of Arkansas for tales of the Presidential schlong, that they MIGHT have had time to investigate reports of suspicious young Saudis taking flying lessons? Hey MATT, you think if Clinton hadn’t spent half his time being dragged into depositions for eyeing some LEG or losing money on a wooded lot that he MIGHT have had more time to spend protecting America? Had the Republicans supported him instead of tearing him down every single day, do you think he could have done an even better job than he did? DO YOU THINK? HUH? Should we support our Presidents or not? You think?

By Chris

November 1, 2005 11:24 AM | Link to this

The only problem is “money makes the world go ‘round”. Its sad, but I do wish [I] had more of it!

By Oh The Humanity

November 1, 2005 11:26 AM | Link to this

Thank you Jake for trying to inject a rational, intelligent thought to this blog.

By Matt

November 1, 2005 11:31 AM | Link to this

Kimberly, the FBI had plenty of time and resources to investigate the flight school thing. Clinton was dragged into depositions because he lied to the grand jury and the American public. This goes back to what you and Ricky where talking about earlier, both parties spend too much time attacking each other, when they should be working together to make the country better. And it is happening again. Maybe if Dems would stop bashing the war and give the Pres some ideas, it might be going better over there.

By kimberly

November 1, 2005 11:31 AM | Link to this

Ricky, I’m with you there. Not holding my breath, though. When all is lost, we can at least try to hold on to our sense of humor, though. Hence the daily Luckovich reading! {;->

By Katherine

November 1, 2005 11:31 AM | Link to this

Kimberley and Midori, Your insights need to be heard by all! Anyone who claims a degree from Yale should guarantee smarts or conscience should be embarrassed! What Bush and his handlers have brought to this country as result of their lack of genuine care for Americans may probably never be un-done. It amazes me that so many are so willing for folks to die and be maimed for life unnecessarily…

By Matt

November 1, 2005 11:34 AM | Link to this

The funny part about his blog is that nobody is talking about the new nominee. Could it be that Dems realize Bush outsmarted them again and has picked a candidate they know they can;t defeat

By Chris

November 1, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this

did you see the 60 min interview with former dir. under clinton? forgot his name, sorry

By Chris

November 1, 2005 11:39 AM | Link to this

Matt, you know what I fear? Hillary-scares the crap out of me, I’m not trying to stereotype or whatever, but I think a majority of women in this country will only vote for her because she is a woman.

By Ricky

November 1, 2005 11:46 AM | Link to this

Chris, are you talking about the interview with Louis Freeh, the former director of the FBI. Pretty damning stuff and his book is even worse. Hillary scares me a little. I think McCain, Guillani, or Rice could all beat her though. We shall see. There is no doubt she is going to run though

By Bobb

November 1, 2005 11:56 AM | Link to this

Good explanation of the real issues, Jake.

It is absolutely amazing that things have gotten to a point in this country where a husband and father has no say so over the life of his unborn child. What is point of marriage then? He can be forced to support a child if the wife decides to let it live, but he can’t stop her from aborting it.

Say want you want about the Republicans, but the alternative party’s whole political philosphy is based on the right to take life - your own or that of an unborn. What a happy bunch.

By N

November 1, 2005 12:04 PM | Link to this

Chris, You’re a moron!

By Chris

November 1, 2005 12:08 PM | Link to this

Ok, thanks N!

By Daniel

November 1, 2005 12:10 PM | Link to this

There is way too much government intervention in our lives. I trust the average american woman much more than I do the government. She, along with her family, her minister and whomever should make these decisions. Otherwise, we will see a succession of “Schaivo” type charades. Get real! Leave us alone.

By Ricky

November 1, 2005 12:24 PM | Link to this

Well the propoganda war has already started. Rev. Jesse Jackson, he of the out of wedlock child, has described Judge Alito as adverse to civil rights. What a joke. When are people going to stop listening to the good Reverned.

By KATHLEEN

November 1, 2005 12:37 PM | Link to this

Hey Luckovich! Loved the cartoon and boy ain’t it the truth!

By candide

November 1, 2005 12:42 PM | Link to this

Lay off Kimberly. Republicans are indeed the Fascist Party of America. Fascists call opponents traitors, play on fear, exploit religion and tradition, and are unscrupulous fanatics who debase the notion of patriotism. Think of Joe McCarthy. Think of George W. Bush.

And the conservative churches? They are the Fascist Party at prayer.

By Chris

November 1, 2005 12:46 PM | Link to this

Hey if no one has anything to do saturday, come down to piedmont park for the lupus walk a thon: http://walk.lupusresearch.org/site/TR?fr_id=1190&pg=entry

By kimberly

November 1, 2005 01:02 PM | Link to this

Thanks Candide… Matt, you said “Maybe if Dems would stop bashing the war and give the Pres some ideas, it might be going better over there.” Ask General Shinseki, who tried to warn the no-military-experience administration that their “plan” was not a plan, and that there would be trouble if they didn’t make a better one. He was booted for daring to care about the soldiers and the successful outcome of the endeavor. If the President refused to listen to his OWN generals, then why would he listen to Democrats? (Who can barely tie their own shoes in Congress anymore, being shut out by the majority at every turn.) Bush doesn’t CARE! That’s why it’s not going well. Ditto for the millions of American ditto-heads. They DON’T CARE about the truth, as long as they keep their tax cuts and queers can’t get married.

By TrueConservative

November 1, 2005 01:06 PM | Link to this

That sure is a big stone you just cast ricky- you do that alot. I guess youre that one among us without sin Ive heard about. Why dont you read that Bible some your holiness.

By Trojan

November 1, 2005 01:08 PM | Link to this

Every time that there is a Supreme Court Justice nominated, the bruhaha that erupts over abortion amazes me. Just the fact that this issue is the “litmus test” is baffling. It is 2005 folks! How many ways are there not to get pregnant? Abortions should be very very rare with the birth control available to women in this country. Furthermore, what does it say about us as a society when the compelling issue of our time is something so reprehensible?

By Dusty

November 1, 2005 01:14 PM | Link to this

I just got back and I can’t keep up with all the ugly rumors planted and posted on this blog by some of our dear deceitful liberals. Artfully posted are such tripe as “the president is a drunk, FBI made Clinton a woman chaser, FBI combed trailer parks for info on Clinton, America is stuffed in an oil barrel, give the president a drink because he’s dying for one, Bush got two degrees because he is rich, citizens not wealthy cannot reach their congressman”. People saying these things have absolutely no proof of any kind but that does not stop them. They think you will believe them. Just as Mike thinks we will incorporate his patently false cartoons, some posters think we accept their stupid fabrications. They had better think again.

By Malachi

November 1, 2005 01:23 PM | Link to this

Trojan, Let’s have a run-down, shall we? The majority of the people in the United States believe that birth control should not be taught in school. So if you have a mother working two jobs or isn’t ever around because she is busy obtaining maximum wealth, how is the young lass or young lad supposed to learn about birth control? The only thing being taught is: abstinence. So if you don’t know about birth control, you try the silly things like not having sex during specific times of the month or the I’ll stop before potential fertilization, like we males ever do.

And you are right: Abortion should not be an issue. A woman’s body is her body. If she doesn’t want to donate her 23 chromosomes, it should be her choice.

And Republicans are all about the baby during conception, but once it gets here, they can care less.

By Bobb

November 1, 2005 01:28 PM | Link to this

Trojan - Like I said previously, the Democrats seem to have become the party of special interest death rights. When you see and hear them now, it is hard to believe that their theme in the ’30s was “Happy Days Are Here Again”. Got to wonder if they were more happy that the depression occurred instead of being happy about finding ways to end it. What a depressing lot. Makes you want to execute your right to die rights just to hear them talk.

By Trojan

November 1, 2005 01:32 PM | Link to this

Malachi…actually I support a woman’s right to choose. It is that person that has to look at themselves in the mirror each and every day. It is their body and their life. And yes you have a point about education. My thought is that the means are available to render abortion a non-issue. Abstinence and birth control eliminate the need for abortion. Unfortunately the idiot wing of the Republican party would rather wage an ideological war than minimize abortion by all means available. And by the way…I am not a Republican.

By Bobb

November 1, 2005 01:34 PM | Link to this

So, Malachi, assuming you might be married, if your wife becomes pregnant (by you), and decides to have an abortion without consulting with you, you are fine with that? You don’t think that you have any reproductive rights even though the child has your chromosomes?

As for the Republicans not caring about a child after it is born, well, at least they don’t kill them because they are inconvenient.

By Trojan

November 1, 2005 01:47 PM | Link to this

I know that I am really going to catch it after this question. But if abortion is all about a woman’s right to control her own body, should that “right” allow her use her body for commercial purposes…i.e. prostitution, nude dancing, etc?

By Dubya-Dubya-Dubya

November 1, 2005 01:51 PM | Link to this

Mr. Lucky-vitch,

Love the cartoon. Man that’s great! We really need somebody on the bench to smack Nancy Pelosi, the Hilda-beast, Teddie-gram and the rest of the lefty girls around like dime-store hookers and remind them that it’s a man’s world and right is right and left is just plain wrong!

Dubya-Dubya-Dubya

By Jim B

November 1, 2005 02:01 PM | Link to this

look here malarkey, misaligned, malignant, maladjusted or whatever your name is. Did you get permission to speak from your husband?

By Eric

November 1, 2005 02:03 PM | Link to this

What’s all the talk about Clinton? This is not about Clinton, it’s about the dimmest bulb on the string. Bill Clinton did make a huge mistake and I for one was deeply disappointed with the Monica Lewinski affair, but the fact of the matter is that that was a personal issue. It was disgraceful, but it was not the business of anyone outside the Clinton and Lewinski families. Clinton was a good president and a good person. He was a supremely intelligent and capable president. There is absolutely no comparison between Clinton and Bush. Bush has disgraced the entire country and much of the world. Believe what you like, but if Bush were not born into priviledge he’d probably be a used car salesman or an assitant manager at a Krystal. If your daddy is an ultra rich oil tycoon arrangements can be made for the degree of your choice. When Dubya speaks off the cuff and he’s not reciting a prepared text, he sounds like a total idiot. If he’s not dumb he does a damn good job of appearing to be. He IS the worst president of my life time, not doubt about it. And he was elected only once. The first time he was appointed by the activist Supreme Court. When I think that some day his picture will be displayed among the likes of Lincoln and Washington and Roosevelt it makes my stomach turn. What a disgrace.

By Stan

November 1, 2005 02:08 PM | Link to this

Let’s have a round of applause for Mr. Eric (Cartman?) of Flunkenheit 9/11 1/2! He sounds as if he wanted to Lewiski the cigar for old slick willy. NO folks, Eric’s really not high, he didn’t inhale either!

By Malachi

November 1, 2005 02:16 PM | Link to this

The main reason Repubs like Bush is: he is a supposed go getter, and ignores rational thought before making any decisions, sort of like an impulsive shopper. By the way, he did do a good job for 9/11. The country was truly united, and I was proud of the camaraderie of the American people. Back to the impulsive shopping: Bush has not said one thing about Osama, the person in charge of the attacks. It has kind of been ignored, and swept under the rug. Nothing has been mentioned about Saudi Arabia and the fact that people on the planes were Saudi. Why has Saudi Arabia not been called on this? Back to the oil prices: how can any government stand by and watch its citizens get raped? The oil company is having record prices. It’s okay because it is business. The hell with the American people. No solutions have been presented, just grin and bear it.

By Eric

November 1, 2005 02:33 PM | Link to this

Cartman of Flunkenheit? That’s a good one, Einstein.

By Ricky

November 1, 2005 02:35 PM | Link to this

Kimberly, I wish Bush had listened to Gen Shinseki also. More troops were needed over there after the initial victory during the ground war. All I was saying was that the Dems should offer up some ideas instead of just bashing. And for TrueConservative, all I was saying was that the propoganda war over Alito had begun. And yes it is fair to question Jesse Jackson. He is the one that acts as if he has never sinned. We all know that is a lie. I have never claimed to be perfect. I, like everyonelse, have made mistakes. I don’t know why you interperted from my post that I am without sin.

By Bobb

November 1, 2005 02:36 PM | Link to this

No one is requiring us to own multiple automobiles, take unnecessary trips, or not use public transportation. If we - the people - used our automobiles less and demanded more fuel efficient vehicles from the manufacturers, thus causing the demand for gasoline to decrease, then the oil companies and oil supplying countries would soon get the message. It’s called free enterprise: they are free to charge what they want; we are free not to purchase it.

Now, what exactly does oil have to do with the current Supreme Court nominee?

By Chris

November 1, 2005 02:37 PM | Link to this

Yeah Malachi, I think you are on blogging time out.

By Dusty

November 1, 2005 02:47 PM | Link to this

There they go again. The only substantive fact that Eric presented was that Clinton seduced an intern the age of his daughter in the White House office. But that is just personal. Oh yeah! Then Eric calls President Bush “dumb”, that he was only elected once because of an activist court, and on and on. He neglected to mention that Bush was elected by the American people who are good judges of character. That he has faced some of the greatest challenges a president can face and still stands strong. That he has been appreciated by most leading generals such as Gen. Myers and Gen. Barny Franks. So go console yourself, Eric, with Luckovich’s cartoons. He’s in left field just like you and would love to send you a cartoon, if you have enough money to pay for it.

By Trojan

November 1, 2005 02:49 PM | Link to this

Ricky, I don’t see many republicans offering up any solutions to the mess that this administration has made.

By Eric

November 1, 2005 02:52 PM | Link to this

Mike and I a pals. No money needed. As for being consoled, knowing I’m right about Duhbya knowing that his term is limited gives me comfort.

By Trojan

November 1, 2005 02:53 PM | Link to this

Uh Dusty…did you just award that liberal, alternative lifestyle congressman Barney Frank 4 stars? Or did you mean Gen. Tommy Franks.

By Ricky

November 1, 2005 02:54 PM | Link to this

Trojan, in case you had forgotten, the current administration is Republican and they are working to make the best of this situation. I have not heard one Dem make a substantive statment on how they would execute the war. All we hear about is bring the troops home, the war was a lie, the president is dumb and incompetent.

By Matt

November 1, 2005 02:56 PM | Link to this

Eric, will you be consoled when the Republicans maintain their majority in the house and senate in 2006 and when the liberal star Hillary Clinton is defeated in 2008?

By Trojan

November 1, 2005 02:56 PM | Link to this

And what are your ideas Ricky?

By Eric

November 1, 2005 03:01 PM | Link to this

No!

By Ricky

November 1, 2005 03:02 PM | Link to this

Here are my ideas Trojan. We need to do a better engaging with the average Iraqi on the street. We need to spend more of our time working with the Iraqi’s not just doing the job for them. We need to get more countries involved in the process, both political and militarily. Once we have accomplished that and increased the numbers and competency of the Iraqi troops, then we can start the process of withdrawing our troops. At some point we have to let the Iraqi’s determine for themselves if they want to have a democratic government. What is your plan Trojan?

By Matt

November 1, 2005 03:04 PM | Link to this

So, Eric, you agree that the Dems won’t be winning elections anytime soon

By Dusty

November 1, 2005 03:07 PM | Link to this

You are right, Trojan. I have made left wing Barney into right wing Tommy and vice versa. Oh, the horror of it all! But I did not make all those comments disappear. Once we were many and now we are 13? Must be the dreaded Post Halloween Distress Syndrome.

By Dusted

November 1, 2005 03:07 PM | Link to this

Trojan your suggestion about Barney Frank’s alternative life is amusing considering that you’ve taken the name of a favorite product of alternative lifestylers. Trying to tell us something? Stick to comments on the cartoon that’s what this forum is for.

By Charles Patrick

November 1, 2005 03:13 PM | Link to this

Great likeness of one of the Democrats finest, Ted Kennedy.

By Bobb

November 1, 2005 03:15 PM | Link to this

Laugh about Hillary, guys, but she is the one that will abuse the Patriot Act if elected. And I’d be keeping my back to wall if I were Bill. Nothing like woman wearing black during a campaign to gain the sympathy vote. If you want a primer, rent the “Manchurian Candidate”. Make sure to get the one with Frank Sinatra and not the piece of garbage remake that came out recently.

By Dusty

November 1, 2005 03:17 PM | Link to this

DUSTED, you should be busted. Get your own moniker. You are not Dusty. Speak for yourself and quit trying to fool people.

By Eric

November 1, 2005 03:17 PM | Link to this

No Matt, I don’t agree to that at all. I have hope that the voting public will see the light and clean house. It’s obvious that that is beginning to happen. Just look at the polls. Bush has been dropping like a rock. And the Libby/Rove mess will hardly be helpful to your cause. Add to that Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Katrina, gas prices, home heating fuel, off shore jobs, layoffs, etc, etc, etc…..Yes, I have hope.

By John Q.

November 1, 2005 03:35 PM | Link to this

Not sure if Mr. Luckovich is painting a fair portrait of Judge Alito. I’ve read most all of the postings taking pot shots at the Judge being Catholic and a Bush appointee but nobody seems to be interested in what should be a primary concern. Will Judge Alito serve the High Court fairly or will he attempt to legislate from the bench as has been done in the past few years by the Court? Of course there will be an place a political slant to it but can he be objective and fair or does he have an agenda? Only time will tell.

By Trojan

November 1, 2005 03:35 PM | Link to this

Way to go Ricky! Vietnamization for Iraq. Right out of the text book. And you are right. Can’t argue with it. But the question is, how long does all this take? How many dollars will be spent, and how much blood will be shed. Also, this war has turned into a counter insurgency. In this type of engagement the advantage always rests with the insurgents. They choose the time, the place, and the size, of the engagements. An insurgency only requires the active participation of 2% of the population. The Iraqi that we engage on the street may be the Iraqi that plants IEDs in his spare time. Insurgents hide among the populace, increasing the frustration levels of the counterinsurgents, and sometimes results in the alienation of the populace when the methods that kill the insurgents also kill the populace. The problem with this whole thing is that the insurgents are willing to fight us for a thousand years if that is what it takes. There has be a timeline for withdrawal. I say we tell the Iraqis that we will be there 5 years. That we will train them as best we can in that period of time…and then it’s their party. We were in Vietnam for 15 years and we all know how that turned out.

By TrueConservative

November 1, 2005 03:52 PM | Link to this

Of course the Vice President didnt know anything about this ‘corruption’and he certainly didnt hear anything about it when he rode to work in the limo with Scooter Libby EVERY DAY.

Incedentally do you remember when that guy got pulled over downtown with a pound of cocaine and a AK-47 and the police assumed the guy in the seat next to him didnt know anything about it and didnt even search him-yeah I remember that.

Of course those are filthy poor poeple. Filthy rich people dont ever do anything wrong. There was no genicide in the 3rd largest oil producing nation because of President Exon P. Valdez… youre just paranoid- silly Liberals

let me just hit the snooze button…

By TrueConservative

November 1, 2005 03:55 PM | Link to this

oh yeah I wa supposed to stop talking about that because the white house told me to- my bad

By Thomas

November 1, 2005 04:04 PM | Link to this

Am I the only person that thinks Alito looks like a Nazi?

By Dusty

November 1, 2005 04:09 PM | Link to this

Well, gentlemen, you have totally forgotten the greatest need in this war. That is OPTIMISM. That is when terrorists see that we have no doubt about freedom in Iraq, that Americans fully support their commander-in-chief and their troops, that we will stay in Iraq just as long as they say there is a need and we agree, that the UN must face its responsibilities just as Condi Rice and John Bolton have said, and that we are very proud to be Americans for all times. Do you not know how fortunate you are?

By Danny

November 1, 2005 04:11 PM | Link to this

Typical Liberal, don’t let the facts get in the way. The ruling was inform the husband not get permission.

By RW-(the original)

November 1, 2005 04:20 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I guess all the comments have vanished, must have been good conservative points being made, but I should apologize to you. They blamed you for the “foul smelling drummers” post I left on the last thread.

Danny,

It’s a worse misrepresentation than even what you said. Alito only ruled that the state had the right to make the law.

By Trojan

November 1, 2005 04:42 PM | Link to this

Dusted…quit trolling. Nobody here wants to be your stick bud.

By rushncap

November 1, 2005 05:07 PM | Link to this

Dusty — what the hell??

—- The only substantive fact that Eric presented was that Clinton seduced an intern the age of his daughter in the White House office. —- And exactly how many American soldiers and Iraqi children died due to that? —- He neglected to mention that Bush was elected by the American people who are good judges of character. —- Since when??? Are you high? You mean the same American people who think that Ashlee Simpson can sing, who elected Nixon and you seem to think that Pat Roberts really talks to god? —- That he has faced some of the greatest challenges a president can face and still stands strong. —- By “stads strong” I can only assume you mean having under 40% approval rating? Besides, standing strong is no hard trick. Standing right is. Hell, even the Unabomber stood strong. Dusty, I got money. Quite a bit of it. Send me whatever it is you’re smoking, I’ll pay handsomely.

By gullah

November 1, 2005 05:08 PM | Link to this

“Well, gentlemen, you have totally forgotten the greatest need in this war. That is OPTIMISM. That is when terrorists see that we have no doubt about freedom in Iraq, that Americans fully support their commander-in-chief and their troops, that we will stay in Iraq just as long as they say there is a need and we agree, that the UN must face its responsibilities just as Condi Rice and John Bolton have said, and that we are very proud to be Americans for all times. Do you not know how fortunate you are?”

Do you not get it anymore Dusty? There is absolutely no optimism in this country for this war. We used to think that the Cheney and Bush had misled us into this war. We now know from Libby’s indictment that it is much worse than simply being misled. Libby is obviously covering for something very heinous if he is willing to risk disbarment, 30 years in prison and up to 1.25 million dollars in fines just to keep the special prosecutor from getting to the truth.

We do not belong in an Iraqi civil war even though we started the civil war. There can not be a republican democracy in Iraq. All sides have said this. A republican democracy can not coexist with Islam. We have all been told this, once again by all sides. Why should American children be doomed to fight and die in this war five, ten years down the line? Do you not see Dusty that removing Saddam was one of the worst things we could have possibly done? Do you not remember the First president Bush telling us this after the end of the first Gulf War?

Every intelligence agency in the government has now said that attacking Iraq has made us much less safe than if we had never gone in. Why do you take sides against our own intelligence agencies Dusty? We are building up Iraqi defenses when as soon as we leave they will be aligning themselves with Iran because it is the Shi’a which we are putting into power and Iran is Shi’a . You do understand this Shi’a connection don’t you Dusty?

Dusty why are you taking sides against your fellow Americans in this? Why do you feel the American people do not need to know the truth about this war? I can’t wait to see your treasonous answers.

By Jasper Meer

November 1, 2005 05:16 PM | Link to this

Optimism? Optimism is key? Wow. Dusty, you really need to stop rolling blunts with pages ripped from the latest Jack Walsh book. Good Lord, you’re way too high!

By T. Jefferson

November 1, 2005 05:27 PM | Link to this

Gullah hits the nail right on the head. It is ludicrous to think that we can democratize the world. And democracy is not for everybody. You don’t just hold one election and declare a