Mike Luckovich

By RW-(the original)

October 28, 2005 11:47 PM | Link to this

Must be Dave from Woodstock’s house.

By Bill

October 29, 2005 08:28 AM | Link to this

Keep up the good work Mike,u can’t please every one.

Bill>>>10/30/2005

By Scott

October 29, 2005 08:32 AM | Link to this

For the guy trying to “shame” Pukovich, soulless lefties have no shame, no honor, no nobility. They’re a vile lot and Mikey proudly characterizes all that’s putrid about the vermin of the Left. As does the insipid AJC. Drop your subscriptions, as I did. Stop contributing to those who would love nothing more than the destruction of our country!

Screw you, Mike, Cynthia, Jay, et al.

By eric

October 29, 2005 09:00 AM | Link to this

That Scott is a perfect case of the pot calling the kettle black. It doesn’t take much to see right through him. What a shallow little man he must be.

By candide

October 29, 2005 09:06 AM | Link to this

There is one thing we could have learned from the Soviets: put rightwingers in insane asylums!

By william

October 29, 2005 09:17 AM | Link to this

Mike must be the most clever and prolific cartoonist in the newspaper industry.

By TrueConservative

October 29, 2005 09:25 AM | Link to this

that was Scott VP of Halliburton folks- thank you Scott

think we can get an impeachment over the BJ he just gave the president?

By gttim

October 29, 2005 09:38 AM | Link to this

Wow, I am always amazed at the hatred and anger of the rightie wingnuts. Where are the family values? Where is the love? Tell me righties, who would Jesus smear next?

Way to go Mike!

By Gordon Pfeiffer

October 29, 2005 10:31 AM | Link to this

Luckovich is a bore. Every day it is the same thing. What did he do before Bush was in office? I challenge him to go three days without doing an anti-Republican cartoon. It’s just not in him.

By Joe Roman

October 29, 2005 10:44 AM | Link to this

From the time he announced his candidacy prior to 2000, Bush’s “leadership” has been a myth, a house of cards just waiting to collapse. The self-serving hysteria whipped up around 9/11 bought some time, but now the house of cards is collapsing, and Bush’s Reaganesque “amiable bumbler” charade is collapsing with it.

By candide

October 29, 2005 11:00 AM | Link to this

Herr Pfeifer! The reason Mike and others spend so much time on the Bush crowd is that rarely in our history have so many arrogant and at the same time ignorant people been in charge. The result has been unpredecented disaster. Perhaps the public will learn not to turn over our lives to the Republican Fascisti.

By Dusty

October 29, 2005 11:33 AM | Link to this

The saddest thing about this uninspired Halloween cartoon is the fact that a newspaper would use freedom of the press to become a one-sided political propaganda tool. Luckovich admits he hates OUR war in Iraq—but ohhh-he loves our troops so much. Just enough to betray them. But all you admirers of Luckovich, go ahead and order his deluxe framed print of his “W” cartoon for only $219.95. While using the name of dead soldiers for propaganda, he is also making money doing it. Don’t you just love his brand of patriotism?

By Daniel

October 29, 2005 12:10 PM | Link to this

Dusty! All you do is whine. Read another paper, already. By the way, America is the better for the indictment of a crooked political hack. We will pay dearly for the gross excesses of this incompetent government. I would be less hurt if these “clowns and boneheads” had balanced one budget. Great work, Mike! Thanks.

By Dusty

October 29, 2005 12:58 PM | Link to this

Off to the lions’ den for you, Daniel. I wish there was another big newspaper in Georgia, but alas!! there are none and not enough millionaires to go around like the rich (liberal) that owns AJC. And I guess you noticed “Scooter” resigned, even though it was an indictment, not a conviction. Bush said he would get rid of any crooks and he keeps his word. Have you ordered your expensive Luckovich deluxe print yet? Maybe Cindy Sheehan has some you can buy too.

By Daniel

October 29, 2005 01:15 PM | Link to this

Dusty: There is precious little substance in what you write. Everyone suffers with incompetent government. The reckless, seemingly endless, borrow and spend attitude of Bush hurts America. We need to get this on track. How can you help? Stop calling people names, quit whining and don’t blame others. Your repetitive nonsense clutters this Blog. If you can’t stop, Get lost!

By Dusty

October 29, 2005 02:59 PM | Link to this

OH, I see, Daniel. Free speech is only for the people who agree with you. Well, you can go read another blog if you don’t like what I write. I happen to think that YOU are off track. Bush is a strong leader and I disagree with the people who try to ridicule him and our country. You think Luckovich can be against the war and not against our military? Evidently you do. Well, I don’t. The military people in Iraq don’t either. I care more about our troops than I care about some jerk cartoonist trying to make money off being a dissident. I would repeat your “Get lost” message but I don’t have to. You are already lost and babbling.

By RW-(the original)

October 29, 2005 03:10 PM | Link to this

Daniel, I’ve just read your posts looking for all the substance and knowledge. The only thing I find is you wanting anyone with a different opinion to go away.

Are you scared that in a two way exchange of ideas you might actually have to present a fact?

Why don’t you start by proving that Scooter Libby is a crooked political hack, you could save the Fitzgerald alot of time and us alot of money.

By Andy

October 29, 2005 03:36 PM | Link to this

Sigh.

Fellow Conservatives: Let’s check our hostility at the door. The angry left has cornered the stuttering rage market, it is pointless to try to shout them down.

We need to present, in response to their childish outbursts, thoughtful and provocative arguments. For instance, when they dance around over the Libby indictment, just tell them, considering that the only election they’ve won in ten years was Cynthia McKinney’s, they better hope Rove gets indicted too.

These libs are pretty much shot out. All you have to do is look at cartoon boy’s latest to see how utterly devoid of coherent thought they are.

By hewhoasks

October 29, 2005 03:38 PM | Link to this

Re: Freedom of the press.

Boy, Dusty, you couldn’t be more wrong. “Free” means free, and that darned well should include lots of advocacy, including advocacy in favor of the party not in power. there is no “fairness doctrine” for the press - the freedom of the press is explicit denial of a fairness doctrine. Quit whining.

I note that first you decry Luckovich’s use of freedom of the press for a very mild anti-Bush cartoon (it is certainly true that things haven’t been going well for Bush these days) and then accuse someone else of believing freedom of speech only apples for him to those with whom he agrees. The offense is so obvious I won’t even name it.

As for using the names of dead soldiers for propaganda, Bush used the soldiers very lives for propaganda. He had them risk their lives and lose them in order to “show resolve,” not for any cogent military purpose. Nor was it “resolve” Bush wanted to have shown, it was backing for his archaic thinking. Bush very obviously used the war in Iraq politically. He got strong bi-partisan support but almost instantly began portraying all but Republicans as weak appeasers - he used the war politically. The Congress, Democrats among them, voted Bush authority to act in the best interests of the United States. Instead of acting in the best interests of the United States he chose to use the war as the basis for political propaganda, as a basis for winning a second term. It is Bush who has split the country, it is Bush who is using the war for his own propaganda (not to mention the $billions of US and Iraqi money going Bush political backers, either through contracts or by “disappearing.”)

So Luckovich runs a cartoon that speaks of recent setbacks leaving Bush testy. How is that untrue, how is that unfair? Bush has had recent setbacks, he is reported to be testy - reported, in fact, to have berated Rove for the Plame affair. If that’s not “testy,” why isn’t it?

By Maria

October 29, 2005 04:27 PM | Link to this

Yay, Mike! You GO! DemocracyNow had a piece on you yesterday, about the AJC and the WHY? Cartoon. Very nice. They even had your photo….you don’t look like a Pukovich. Just keep doing what you’ve been doing. You have a fine sense of the absurdity of politics in general, and this adminsitration in particular. Thank you for all you do.

By Dusty

October 29, 2005 04:59 PM | Link to this

Hewhoasks, you better ask again. I was writing to Daniel when I objected to his perference for posts that did NOT agree with him. That was for Daniel, get it? But you are perfectly right that freedom of the press is explicit denial of a fairness doctrine. And AJC and Luckovich are perfect examples of explicit denial of a fairness doctrine. But who wants that? I would hope for a newspaper that is truthful, fair and balanced. But that is not to be found in Atlanta. You like it that way because unproven and fabricated facts, especially editorials, are not a problem for you. President Bush and Congress voted to go to war. Period. But you want to call it something else. Our troops are fighting terrorists in Iraq every day and you think terrorists wouldn’t be coming here again like 9/11. Blind thinking. And if you think there are plenty of companies like Haliburton, big enough to go anywhere in the world on an emergency basis and work in Iraq or even New Orleans, you don’t know much about business or the system. You also don’t know whether Bush is testy or not, but “somebody” said so. That makes it true for you. I will continue to object to Luckovich’s almost constant ridicule of our president. Also his objections and accusations about the War damages our troops. If that is whining, then put on your ear plugs, buddy, because I will object any time I feel like it.

By E.G. Salomon

October 29, 2005 05:09 PM | Link to this

And I guess you noticed “Scooter� resigned, even though it was an indictment, not a conviction. Bush said he would get rid of any crooks and he keeps his word.

But Bush in a speech last night said that he “was regretful to lose such a great man”…

Isn’t that contradictory to what you just said?

By annette

October 29, 2005 05:10 PM | Link to this

Mike SUCKS!!!

By ambergris

October 29, 2005 05:12 PM | Link to this

I agree Annette

By Davis

October 29, 2005 05:13 PM | Link to this

Mike is a P***

By Davis

October 29, 2005 05:13 PM | Link to this

Thats P***

By darrell bowman

October 29, 2005 05:15 PM | Link to this

Come on man! I dont like him either but cut out the name calling

By Bobb

October 29, 2005 06:29 PM | Link to this

Mike stinks for sure, but it is his cartoon space, and the AJC is under no obligation to be balanced and provide a conservative cartoonist.

They make it pretty obvious that they lean to left despite some of them claiming to be “conservative” Democrats -which is about as silly as saying you are a left-wing communist, or is it right wing? I forget, but anyway, the AJC has at least provided this forum to offer counter-opinions to Mike’s, so just keep it at that and stop the fruitless efforts to convert him into something he is not - an objective editorial cartoonist who doesn’t stink.

By RW-(the original)

October 29, 2005 07:08 PM | Link to this

Bobb,

I agree with your sentiment, but you might want to read what Mike thinks about his own politics on the first day of his blog.

Hint: He thinks he’s right down the middle with a slight democrat leaning.

That’s why we make fun of his liberalism

By Dusty

October 29, 2005 08:11 PM | Link to this

E. G. Salomon, “Scooter” is gone from the White House. Bush said no one would work in the White House if he doubted their integrity. So there you have it. “Scooter” has resigned even without a conviction. The president graciously gave him good parting words for his long years in government work. Just another example of the president’s “humanity”.

And Bobb, I pay for MY newspaper because there is no other big newspaper in Georgia unfortunately. I am under no obligation to say that I like the cartoons or the editorials if I do not like them. AJC has freedom of the press. I have freedom of speech.
So thank you! I still don’t like anyone who reflects badly on our American troops in wartime. One of them is Mike Luckovich, who is making a profit from being a dissident. That has a lot of names, but not one of them is honorable.

By Teresa

October 29, 2005 08:58 PM | Link to this

Geez, if I hated this newspaper so much I sure wouldn’t buy it. What’cha wanna bet Dusty and RW really love, instead of loathe, the AJC? Me thinks thou dost protest too much. Guys, get over it already! My goodness, you sound like a couple of four-year olds who are not getting their way. Time out for you two. By the way, Mike, splendid cartoon!

By RW-(the original)

October 29, 2005 09:25 PM | Link to this

Teresa,

Please show me where I said any of the following: That I loathe the AJC; That I buy the AJC; That I don’t buy the AJC.

I enjoy an honest debate of issues and I enjoy poking fun at bias and people that pretend they own their own set of facts.

I would even be happy to debate you, if you ever said anything of substance.

By Davis

October 29, 2005 09:36 PM | Link to this

P-U-S-S-Y

By Davis

October 29, 2005 09:37 PM | Link to this

F******* MIKE!

By Dan

October 29, 2005 10:01 PM | Link to this

I voted “don’t like” on your trick or treat cartoon, not because I disagree with the sentiment, but because I don’t think it measures up to your usual razor-sharp, dagger-point wit.

My favorite recent cartoons have been “Bush is God” statement by nominee Miers, giving Iraq back to Saddam, and W. If I had lost a loved one in the Iraq debacle, I would have felt grateful for seeing his/her name in the W cartoon.

By IHATELIBERALS

October 29, 2005 10:07 PM | Link to this

F-A-G-G-O-T

By Tom

October 29, 2005 10:08 PM | Link to this

Wow, All those Mike haters out there must feel guilty about something. Perhaps its because they helped elect these rotten to the core con-artists who are posing as serious statesmen and women and are screwing our country. Hold their feet to the fire Mike. They need some opposition other than the pussies who simper around them like lemmings.

By Jackalope

October 30, 2005 12:00 AM | Link to this

I wouldn’t dislike Mike Luckovitch nearly so much had he not identified himself as a “moderate” a few years ago.

Mike, you’re a die-hard Democrat. You know it and all your readers do as well. You make no attempts to be fair…or even honest. You hide behind a newspaper and never come out to debate your opinions.

What a cowardly way to spread your hate. How do you sleep at night?

By Davis

October 30, 2005 06:58 AM | Link to this

Tom sucks Mikes A-s-s

By Wild Sects

October 30, 2005 09:56 AM | Link to this

It takes a lot of intelligence to come up with the one and two word sleazy comments some of the wingnuts are submitting. Thanks for sharing your lack of IQ with everyone.

The other wingnuts keep talking about how the Dems can’t win elections. I’ll wager that Dems will do just fine in 2006. That is unless the Republicans take dishonest vote counting to an even higher level.

Wild Sects

By roger turner

October 30, 2005 11:11 AM | Link to this

There is no such thing as a moderate. The people who say they are moderates are just democrats who are too ashamed to say so. Liberals who are ashamed of themselves now call themselves “progressives “. In practice, there is not a dimes worth of difference between a progressive, a liberal, a democrat, a moderate, a socialist or a communist. Put them all in a bag, shake them up and it wouldn’t make a bit of difference which one fell out first.

By Wild Sects

October 30, 2005 11:38 AM | Link to this

How feable minded of you Roger. I am a proud liberal. I don’t know how much of a progressive I am but you can call me a liberal anytime. As for lumping all those you dislike into one category, we could easily do the same. We could say that there is no difference between religious extremists, conservative, republican, fascist, braindead and liar.

But that would not be honest. Most liberals know that the republican party has been hijacked by the far right wingnuts who are out for personal and religious gain. They are about as patriotic toward America as any insurgent in Iraq. They wrap themselves in the flag and dare anyone to disagree. You seem to have fallen for their dishonesty hook, line and sinker.

We long for the day when republicans get back to normal. The last decent republican president was Eisenhower. He is turning over in his grave at what his party has become.

Of course the same could be said of Kennedy. A man with the courage to face down the missiles of October would shudder at the spineless Dems we now have in office.

By TrueConservative

October 30, 2005 11:50 AM | Link to this

Get a clue KIDS.

I dont agree with a politician because he has a (D) next to his name and I dont disagree bcause he has an (R)- those of you who do are just regergitating whatever those democrats AND republicans fed you. It doesnt help you, it doesnt help me, but it helps Haliburton and a dozen other evil corporations who want us all at each others throats so we dont go after the PARTIES (thats plural folks)who are actually responsible for all of the corruption in washington

heres an idea- maybe if you all exchanged ideas openly instead of trying to stamp out whoever disagrees with you we could reach a COMPREMISE

you want to call yourself a patriot? respect your fellow citizens right to express an opinion other than yours

you want to support the troops? read their thoughts on whats happening instead of taking Donald Rumsfeld’s word for it. If ‘We, the People’ can talk like ADULTS we can win our country back from the Worms (Democrat AND Republican) who have sold our nation to the highest bidder- you do THAT and you can go preach about ‘the land of the free’

By TrueConservative

October 30, 2005 12:52 PM | Link to this

by the way- Thanks Luckovich for helping us laugh at this pollitical upheaval that terrifies us- people can say what they want the fact that 75% of the people who have seen this cartoon love it speaks for itself

I’m sure you agree with me that this is the BEST ADMINISTRATION EVER!!! (for comedy that is)

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 01:38 PM | Link to this

True Conservative,

I’ve noticed you like to lecture about literal meanings. Would you enlighten us as to the term “unscientific poll”?

My guess is that Mike wouldn’t even claim this cartoon as anything more than going through the motions. He is, after all, tired from a week of scheming to personnally profit on the deaths of American heros.

By TrueConservative

October 30, 2005 02:25 PM | Link to this

‘why seeist thou the mote in thy brothers eye and not the beam in thine own?’ have Bush and Cheney not made millions from this war? oil deals, arms deals, reconstruction contracts

no one has profited more from the deaths of these soldiers than the arch-conservative corporate moguls in the white house but you seem to have shut that out. how many soldiers have we heard from the past months who feel as cannon fodder hurled to their deaths for corporate profit? Is Luckovich evil because he recognizes they have a voice too.. a voice that has been silenced by propeganda?

Supporting the troops and regergitating the talking points of the President who ‘leads’ them are not the same thing- you seem like a smart guy, surely you realize that many of those troops do not agree with the war either, but they are soldiers, and they complete their mission honorably although they dont agree. How is silencing those voices patriotism?

what you are talking about is called ‘Nationalism’- where you dont question the President or the espoused motivations of a nation you just act like its right even if it is not

this is not to be confused with ‘Patriotism’ where you do your civic duty and fight for the betterment of your homeland no matter what

the troops on the ground are ‘Patriots’they are performing their duty even though many of the people at the helm are ‘Nationalists’who exploit hose troops for their own gain

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 02:49 PM | Link to this

TC,

If you have proof that President Bush And Vice-President Cheney have personnally gained, as you say millions, or that they have deliberately waged war to line the pockets of their corporate friends, present it and make your case. If you have no proof it’s only your opinion.

I won’t play your idiotic word game. I seriously doubt you can show where I have called for the silencing of any dissent.

By TrueConservative

October 30, 2005 02:51 PM | Link to this

as for the unscientific poll- do you really think a bunch of liberals who are terrified that posting their opinions here could get them thrown into Guantanimo Bay are going to vote over and over just so the poll will have a higher ‘yes’ than ‘no’ -isnt it just as likely that ‘conservatives’ are doing that too

after all Ronald Reagan was voted ‘The Greatest American’ in just such a fashion

By TrueConservative

October 30, 2005 02:57 PM | Link to this

Bush is a filthy rich oil tycoon

Cheney is fromer VP and stockholder of Halliburton (which has made billions from the war) it is difficult to imagine a scenario where they do not profit from this

what you want receipts?

By Mike

October 30, 2005 03:52 PM | Link to this

Can’t we all just get along?

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 03:52 PM | Link to this

TC

Count the unscientific poll votes vs. the posts. I don’t begin to speculate who does and doesn’t vote in the poll only that it’s results are meaningless.

It’s quite a strech from “Bush is a filthy rich oil tycoon and Cheney used to be VP of Haliburton, by the way he actually was CEO, to say they are waging a war for their own enrichment. He had to divest himself of the stock when he was named as the candidate for Vice President in 2000.

If any rational person has proof, or even strong evidence, that what you, Ted Kennedy, and Cynthia McKinney suggest is true you could successfully bring articles of impeachment right now.

By Wild Sects

October 30, 2005 04:08 PM | Link to this

It’s a well known fact that Cheney STILL receives dividends from Haliburton.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 04:16 PM | Link to this

WS

So well known that you don’t provide a link, either.

TC is the definition man, but I believe you’re confusing dividends with retirement benefits.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 04:32 PM | Link to this

Actually, a quick internet search shows that what John Kerry tried to portray as dividends was really just deferred compensation and the amount has no bearing on Haliburton performance.

Other than Cheney losing it all if somehow Haliburton folded.

By TrueConservative

October 30, 2005 04:49 PM | Link to this

excuse me- I just returned

I didnt say Iraq was purely for their enrichment in fact if you read my other posts I have prviously stated that I think they are myopic enough to think that they were actually doing something good

what I DID say is that its diffucult to imagine a scenario in which they did not profit from it in some way just like every other Oil, Arms, or reconstrution tycoon with billions in diversified assets, and that there is sufficient reason to question their motives.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 05:12 PM | Link to this

TC,

I’d like to keep the debate going, but it won’t be possible if you keep getting bogged down in literalism.

True you have said money was only a part of the reason, Ted Kennedy said it was for politcal gain, and McKinney said it was for monetary gain.

All three of you suggest unpure motives, so in this kind of forum we both have to be able to accept a wee bit of generalization.

As to your point, I find it difficult to believe the war has profited the President or Vice-President at all. Had they somehow personnally profited they would never have been re-elected.

By Mark

October 30, 2005 06:03 PM | Link to this

RW(the original) in response to one of your earlier posts regarding facts…a very good prosecutor has brought charges against Mr. Libby after a 2 year investigation. That is fact. He will go to trial and we will see the result. You sound like the Dems did when Bill was prez. Come on! You sound like a poor facsimile of Rush and Hannity.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 06:17 PM | Link to this

Mark,

Through every thread ml has put up, when the question of guilt or innocence has come up my position is that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

That goes for Scooter Libby and Tom Delay the same as it went for the dozens of people indicted during the Clinton administration.

I think you are doing some very selective reading.

If you were on a jury would you listen to both sides or just walk in on day one and say, “Your honor that’s a good prosecuter that spent 22 months on the case, he’s guilty?”

By Mark

October 30, 2005 06:33 PM | Link to this

RW…I am saying that the facts will come out in whatever trials are to come. And yes they deserve to be tried fairly. But there is no doubt that a NOC agent of the CIA was outed for whatever purpose there may have been. The question is…WHO outed her. Without a doubt we will know that answer very soon.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 06:38 PM | Link to this

Mark,

Then as far as the trial is concerned we are saying the same thing.

However, since the investigation was supposed to be about the so called outing and Fitzgerald did not charge on that underlying crime. And, in fact, said he could not determine whether she had covert status, I doubt we will learn much more about that.

By Mark

October 30, 2005 06:47 PM | Link to this

I am reading and hearing that another Grand jury is hearing more stuff. That the prosecutor is going to make a bigger case against some other people. Maybe Libby is not the fish that will really get fried.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 06:55 PM | Link to this

Maybe, yes, maybe no, maybe I,ll wait and see. Or maybe not, who knows maybe President Bush will resign, maybe he won’t. Maybe ml will win a pulitzer, maybe it will snow tonight.

Depending on where you read and listen, you can basically spread rumors about anyhing or maybe you can’t. Who knows?

By Bobb

October 30, 2005 08:07 PM | Link to this

RW and Dusty - Hey fellas, reread my original post and I think you will find that we are in complete agreement.

By Dusty

October 30, 2005 08:09 PM | Link to this

Well, RW-(the original), it is going to be a long night if you are waiting for some facts from these rumor mills. You have given some accurate information but they will overlook that. TC has even said that we are terrified!!! and liberals are afraid to voice their opinions on blogs because they will be thrown into Guantanamo Bay!!!How about that? And it isn’t even Halloween yet.Maybe Luckovich should do a cartoon called “Liberals celebrate Halloween all year”. Nawww—nobody wants to buy a cartoon about losers.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 08:35 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Now that they spent 22 months getting to the bottom of the “Scooter lied” problem, they are now going to move into “who leaked the name” phase has got to be one of the looniest arguements I’ve seen anyone make here, but this is the place for moonbat theories.

But, Mark read it and heard it so it must be true!

I noticed you had out your cluebat on a different thread today, should we crash the “I hate America” rally?

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 08:36 PM | Link to this

Bobb,

If we agree that’s great, but I have no intention of wading back upstream to find out.

By Dusty

October 30, 2005 09:08 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original), don’t think I will make the “I hate America” rally. Wish I could think of one good thing to say about that. They have the freedom to do that in this country and I should be proud of our freedoms. But the way some people use those freedoms—kinda sickening. Kinda sad. G’nite.

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 09:15 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

I like to go to those things to take pictures from angles the MSM won’t show you. If there are 50 people, they will take a ‘down the sidewalk’ shot to inflate the crowd.

They wouldn’t have a clue whether I was one of them or not. Sometimes it’s a little too much fun!

Goodnight.

By Teresa

October 30, 2005 10:01 PM | Link to this

Well, I see RW and Dusty are still rantin’and ravin’. Are we going to have to bring out the straitjackets for you two? Get over it. Nobody likes a sore loser, and the both of you are really quite boring. (Yawn)

Mike, I simply adore this cartoon!

By RW-(the original)

October 30, 2005 11:03 PM | Link to this

Teresa,

Glad to see you are safely home from the MENSA meeting.

Sleep well, you know we all wait in a state of highly agitated anticipation for the next nugget of brilliance you might honor us with.

By Heywood

October 31, 2005 11:35 AM | Link to this

Get over it people, HE’S A CARTOONIST!!!! He can’t form a complete sentence so he draws and at times is mildly amusing. In order to take Mike Luckovich seriously you’d also have to believe there’s merit in the political tirades from nobel laureates such as Puff Daddy, Madonna, Janeane Garofalo, Bono, Michael Moore, Mike Wallace, Teddy Kennedy, Sinead O’Conner, Al Gore, Alec Baldwin, John Kerry, James Carville, Hillary Clinton…..

By Chris

October 31, 2005 01:09 PM | Link to this

A nation which makes the final sacrifice for life and freedom does not get beaten. ~ Kemal Atatürk ~ In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility — I welcome it. ~ John F. Kennedy ~ Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. ~ Thomas Paine ~ Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and success of liberty. John Fitzgerald Kennedy, 35th president of the United States of America The meaning of America is not to be found in a life without toil. Freedom is not only bought with a great price; it is maintained by unremitting effort. (Calvin Coolidge)

…”If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be even a worse fate. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” — Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill on the eve of Britain’s entry into World War II

I regret that I only have one life to lose for my country—- Nathan Hale

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. - Thomas Jefferson

The war for liberty never ends. One day liberty has to be defended against the power of wealth, on another day against the intrigues of politicians, on another against the dead hand of bureaucrats, on another against the patrioter and the militarist, on another against the profiteer, and then against the hysteria and the passions of the mobs, against obscurantism and stupidity, against the criminal and against the overrighteous. In this campaign every civilized man is enlisted till he dies, and he only has known the full joy of living who somewhere and at some time has struck a decisive blow for the freedom of the human spirit. - Walter Lippmann

By Chris

October 31, 2005 01:10 PM | Link to this

That’s why Mike

By sct

October 31, 2005 01:21 PM | Link to this

How fortunate for leaders that men do not think. Adolf Hitler

Strength lies not in defence but in attack. Adolf Hitler

The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force. Adolf Hitler

The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. Adolf Hitler

The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it. Adolf Hitler

The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category. Adolf Hitler

By Smitty

October 31, 2005 01:27 PM | Link to this

Those that can.. Do. Those that cannot.. Draw cartoons..

By Chris

October 31, 2005 01:30 PM | Link to this

Are you actually comparing Bush to Hitler??? Until you have been to Iraq three times and see the people, the children cheering for you, shaking your hand, thanking you; take your “liberalistic” anti-patriotic nonsense elsewhere. America does not need you.

By sct

October 31, 2005 01:36 PM | Link to this

Who says I am not under the special protection of God? Adolf Hitler

By Malachi

October 31, 2005 01:38 PM | Link to this

Chris, Dusty, RW…You guys make perfect candidates for a cult. The same non-thinking logic led the people to believe what Jim Jones was saying or what David Koresh was saying. I’m sure some of them thought that Jim Jones was innocent until proven guilty. I’m pretty sure that they stood behind him no matter what he said or did. People that spoke out against him didn’t see his dream or vision.

It amazes me how people can blindly worship a leader wholeheartedly without questioning their logic.

By Chris

October 31, 2005 01:38 PM | Link to this

I rest my case.

By Mark

October 31, 2005 01:38 PM | Link to this

please go to www.wwwd.org …thanks!!!

…Mike, please view my website for an idea for you to do one of your illustrations, and please allow me to use that on the site…by the way, I am a Marist parent with two of my sons, Nathan (who teaches there now and coaches b-ball with Coach Bell) and Ben, who were grads, athletes, etc…

…I want to reverse the pictures in the order that they are currently presented, but have someone help me by photoshopping the Bush pictures instead of the current parents for the effect that I want to achieve…

…I am a former Army Ranger Instructor, so my ethics isn’t that of a malingering whiner…

thanks… 770.366.4838

By Steve O

October 31, 2005 01:41 PM | Link to this

If Luckovich were posted next to Boonedocks and Doonesberry where it belongs we could just flip the page to the real funnies as we do now. Recent comics polls might shed some light on the popularity by comic readers.

By John Q.

October 31, 2005 01:41 PM | Link to this

Funny how those most ready to criticize this country and its leaders have never picked up a rifle and stood their post nor taken time to thank those that have for the freedom they provide. I really love the saying “we support the troops but we’re against the war!” Here’s an idea for you - Take your silly, anti-war/anti-Bush t-shirt wearing butt up to a grunt - a man whose sole purpose in life is to perpetuate death and destruction until all enemies of the US, both foreign and domestic, are destroyed - and see how much support you get back. If you can call a boot in the @$$ support then I guess you’ll get what you deserve!

By Midori

October 31, 2005 01:41 PM | Link to this

Malachi —

you rock!!!!

ROFL!!!!

Cult, indeed.

By Chris

October 31, 2005 01:43 PM | Link to this

I know you people love Bush-bashing, and I’m not saying he’s the greatest, but do you actually think he doesn’t care about fallen troups? These 2,000 men and women are the bravest people in our country, fighting for what they believe. How many of them do you think had a gun to their head at their enlistment? You treat them as cowards. You are the cowards.

By Chris

October 31, 2005 01:45 PM | Link to this

Thank you John Q. They just don’t relize what is really going on. Thinking this is a war for oil. All you doubters got www.massgraves.info

By Smokii Joe

October 31, 2005 01:58 PM | Link to this

Have you ever seen the one that has the pig at the complaint department window, and he’s saying “I wish I was taller.”?

Was it a pig? Or was it Ziggy. Either way, now that was a funny cartoon.

By Smokii Joe

October 31, 2005 02:01 PM | Link to this

Garfield is also funny.

By Anne M.

October 31, 2005 02:14 PM | Link to this

As a former Republican (now Libertarian), it saddens me to see how many people who believe “conservative” is synonomous with membership in the GOP. These are the people who are unable (or refuse) to see just how far from its roots that party has strayed. What’s most ironic is that so many poor and working-class white folks (who fall into the social strata that has been shafted the worst by this Administration’s economic policies) have bought into the exclusionary mind-set of the current Repubs— they honestly buy into the notion that they have more in common with the upper-crust corporate intelligentsia who run the GOP than they do with poor- and working-class black Democrats! The real head-shaker is watching these people find a way to defend anything Dubya does, even if he were to pull off Christ’s head & crap down his throat. sigh There are worse things than being a liberal, folks— chief among them being a head-up-the-tush neocon.

By Chris

October 31, 2005 02:18 PM | Link to this

I am not a Republican, I am an American.

By Joe

October 31, 2005 02:43 PM | Link to this

Well, let’s hear it for good old Annie M. I guess all of us poor white-trash republicans would be a lot better off with somebody at the helm like of John Kerry, Al Gore, one of those idiot Kennedy boys or (God forbid) Slick Willy Clinton. Sure let’s go back to the days of taxing the middle class to death and military families on welfare.

By Teresa

October 31, 2005 02:59 PM | Link to this

Mike, this cartoon is perfect. What a talent you are!

Ohhh RW, you old silver-tongued devil, you, but don’t go getting yourself agitated now. Do you remember what happens when you go all nutty? Yep, straitjacket time.

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2005 03:09 PM | Link to this

Malachi,

Pick up a copy of the Constitution of the United States of America.

Don’t worry it really isn’t a cult manifesto.

By Malachi

October 31, 2005 03:16 PM | Link to this

RW and Chris, you really are drones. You will defend a president or leader or cult leader no matter what. I could see that person slitting your throat, and you probably would believe that it was a liberal Democrat that did it.

If liberals are cowards, so are you. You are too cowardice to think for yourself.

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2005 03:28 PM | Link to this

Malachi,

I can’t speak for Chris, but WTF are you talking about?

By Chris

October 31, 2005 03:33 PM | Link to this

I’m a coward? You know I fought three tours in Iraq for you. You are welcome.

By Anne M.

October 31, 2005 03:33 PM | Link to this

Read for comprehension, Joey honey. I’m not espousing the Democartic “leadership— I’m bemoaning what passes for current Republican leadership. If you had ANY idea of what it used to mean, you would as well. You think the economy under ol’ Slick Willie was so bad? I don’t know about yours, but my porfolio’s not looking as good as it was 8 or 9 years ago. As for “white trash”— that was YOUR term for yourself, not mine. You trying to tell us something, or was that just a Freudian slip???

By Joe

October 31, 2005 03:40 PM | Link to this

First off, the name is Joe not Joey. You should probably read up on Freud before you invoke his name because I’m quite certain that you’re way over your head in that regard. Yes I wrote White trash and was referring to me. Problem with that? Call myself a redneck too. Problem with that? Most of us don’t have a “portfolio” which only suggest that you’ve never really worked for a living. Let’s hear it for Annie folks, another bored, deperate housewife pontificating on subjects in which she hasn’t a clue!!! Then again, opinions of such folks are like @$$holes, they all have ‘em and they all stink!

By Anne M.

October 31, 2005 03:53 PM | Link to this

Oh, and you think the middle class & military had it bad before Dubya? The middle class STILL pays more taxes than any other socio-economic group out there, DESPITE Dubya’s so-called “tax cuts”. As for the military, please! The way they’ve fared under him is a joke. Have a look into his policies— this Administration has steadily eaten away at veterans’ benefits, especially those for disabled veterans & their families. I have many veterans in my family, and I can tell you that it’s like pulling teeth for them to even schedule a routine physical if they want to use their veterans’ benefits. This Administration can’t call itself a supporter of the military whilst continuing to drain and cut the resources for its veterans. Spending to support the Iraq war is NOT the same as supporting our military. Just ask the enlisted men’s families who are STILL eligible for food stamps— 6 years into the reign of George II.

By Midori

October 31, 2005 03:54 PM | Link to this

Joe,

given Bush’s performance, we’d be better off with Homer Simpson at the helm.

dumb as he is, at least the guy can balance his checkbook.

By Anne M.

October 31, 2005 03:59 PM | Link to this

Joey (and I call you that because you seem pretty juvenile to me), you don’t have the capacity to insult my intellect, so your attempts in that area just fall flat. That you assume I’m a “bored housewife” shows that you’re obviously very limited in your outlook; it also reeks of hypocrisy on your part (after all, aren’t “housewives” on the neocons’ short list of women who deserve their respect?). No, I don’t have a problem with you referring to yourself as “white trash”— I simply wanted to make it clear that I wasn’t lumping all poor and working-class white folk into that category. You’re free to call yourself whatever derogatory names you like— I’m certain they fit.

By Chris

October 31, 2005 04:01 PM | Link to this

Midori, obviously, your IQ cannot handle the conversation that is going on so go back to whittling.

By Anne M.

October 31, 2005 04:07 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Midori— and remember, only people who’ve never worked for a living have financial portfolios! LMAO! As if all of us, like Dubya, either married someone with one or inherited it from our parents…poor Joe— he can’t decide whether he should wind his butt or scratch his watch!

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2005 04:09 PM | Link to this

Chris,

Thanks and welcome home!

I don’t think you want Midori playing with sharp objects, though.

By Chris

October 31, 2005 04:16 PM | Link to this

I still think everyone should take ten minutes and go to this link [www.massgraves.info]

By Dusty

October 31, 2005 04:45 PM | Link to this

Ah dear tender touchy lovable liberals, sorry to change the subject .

But it is time for you to gather your homemade signs, your Berkenstocks, your flags to burn. Better hurry up. You might miss the Big Ol’ Anti-American Bash Bush Protest & Hog Waller. Stay a long time. Don’t rush. Luckovich & Michael Moore may sell T-shirts and cartoons. Cindy might show if she is not in jail. Have a good time. Don’t throw bottles at the Police. We will miss you so much.

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2005 05:07 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Don’t forget the drum circles!

Won’t it be funny if any of them get arrested and start asking for their due process rights?

We could save these posts and file an amicus brief, showing that liberals prefer instant conviction.

By Mark

October 31, 2005 05:47 PM | Link to this

Hey you former Military person who served three tours in Iraq.

It is hard to believe that you served three in the Current Iraq situation which puts this close to the category of a lie. Remember Honor?

Go ahead and lie all you want about military service to the Country, our President does as well. Please do not assume you have supreme knowledge on military matters or the mindset of soldiers simply because you may have served 3.

Here is what we can do to ensure you are not lying about your war record though. Meet me somewhere in Atlanta, you choose the place. I will bring my DD214 and you bring yours. I do not need to bring my rack, but if you feel the need to show off even more, why not post how many bronze stars and silver stars you recieved while over there?

By Andy

October 31, 2005 06:20 PM | Link to this

Just an opinion: It seems to me that the true purpose of this blog has strayed from its original intent. The questions seem pretty straight forward; do you like the cartoon and do you have any comments? A Conservative should include a comment that blasts cartoon boy, a liberal could share pinko love with him.

This back and forth banter is, um, interesting, but they do have several great chat rooms in Yahoo or AOL. Just offering a thought.

By Dusty

October 31, 2005 07:06 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original), I am not sure about the drum circles. Was that when they were burning the effigies? As to law & order for certain folks whose name I will not mention, if “somebody” says “guilty”, than that is it. You know. Like somebody said the president was testy so he had to be testy. And maybe Andy will see that a blog is a blog is a blog. Especially with political cartoons. Where’s he been all this time?

By Andy

October 31, 2005 07:34 PM | Link to this

I’m not trying to start a thread here. It just seems to me that you should take your best, well thought out shot at each cartoon and then moveon.org. It’s really not fair to the rest of us to sort through your private tussle, just so we can see the many other diverse opinions that are being offered.

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2005 09:23 PM | Link to this

Andy,

If all we did was comment on these insipid little cartoons, this blog would have no point.

You might want to check with ml and Angela Tuck. They seem pretty happy that we have turned this into a political discussion board.

By RW-(the original)

October 31, 2005 09:26 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

At each of these “I Hate America” rallies they always seem to have a few very foul smelling people sitting in a circle pounding drums.

I see ml’s next effort is up. What a shock he is telling a complete lie to trash Alito now.

By Mike

November 1, 2005 08:27 AM | Link to this

well, well, well, aren’t we an angry little left winger Ms. Anne M?!? Easy for you to take pot shots at our President and poor working people from your ivory tower isn’t it? It sounds as if Joe might have struck a raw nerve with the bored housewife remark. The mere suggestion that your intellect supercedes his suggests that you might have a few misgivings about your own abilities.

By Joe

November 1, 2005 08:42 AM | Link to this

Yes I figured Annie would come back with something as profound as that. By the way Mike I like that ivory tower remark! Annie strikes me as the kind of true blue American that when the wolf is at the door will open the door, bend over, flip up her skirt and try and please her new master like some of the french did for Hitler. We need more people in this country like Annie and Hillary because it was their sissy political positioning that made this country the mess it is now. So too shall America fall as did Rome if we allow people like old Annie M, Hillary, John Kerry and others of that sort that to determine the fate of our once greate nation. I too picked up my rifle and stood my post but I’ll bet you Annie and her cronies didn’t.

By Chris

November 1, 2005 08:48 AM | Link to this

Mark I am not here to brag sir. I just know there are people out here who only know what the media tells them. For your information, I was stationed in Kurkuk Air Base, in Jan ‘02, Bagdad Inter. summer of ‘03, and last year I was at Al Udeid Air Base, Qatar doing security for C130s flying in and out of Iraq carrying prisoners. Don’t question me.

By Chris

November 1, 2005 08:51 AM | Link to this

And also, I never said “have supreme knowledge on military matters or the mindset of soldiers simply because you may have served 3” I just know that the people over there love us and are a happier bunch as a whole. We have done great things for that nation and I applaud all of our gov’t, not just the pres.

By John Q.

November 1, 2005 10:16 AM | Link to this

Chris, I have to throw my 2-cents worth in here. Don’t let yourself get too worked up at the jabs from someone who never had the stones to put on the uniform on except at a Halloween party. The MT-ME generation believes everything that comes from the boob-toob and liberal slanted press. These are the left-wing, frothing at the mouth groups who daily protest against our government, country and things like the pledge of allegiance and prayer in school. They are also the type who believe there’s such thing as a civilized manner of warfare and want grunts tried as war criminals for things done for God and country. Hell, these are the same $hitstains that can’t close their pie-hole during the national anthem. Just remember that some were there when Uncle Sam called and those who didn’t answer the call will have to live and die with the shame that goes along with being an honorless coward. These are the people you’re allowing to upset you. For me, they’re no more a concern than a roach that I step on because I’ll have the satisfaction of knowing when the $hit hits the fan that these are the same people who’ll p** their pants and run to stand behind the grunts who defend the policies of the government they had so vehemently protested against. God Bless & Semper Fi!

By Anne M.

November 1, 2005 12:41 PM | Link to this

Mike (Mr. 8:27 am - to distinguish you from the other Mikes who post: for you to call me a “leftwinger” demonstrates your apparent inability to discern between those who simply think the President is doing a crap job from those you brand “liberal” (for example: “Libertarian” does NOT equal “liberal; go to http://www.lp.org/ if you really want to know the difference— and you should, if you’re going to cast aspersion on others’ politics). My responses to Joe were quite mild, compared with what I COULD have said— his initial post to me was quite an overreaction to the one I put up about being disappointed about where the Republican Party is today. I’m not in an ivory tower, but I certainly will stand up for myself whenever some dimwitted neocon troll thinks he can take personal potshots at me with no provocation. Your response, like his, is nothing more than the usual knee-jerk hoo-ha from those of you who have little or no idea of what the roots of true conservatism are.

By Anne M.

November 1, 2005 12:53 PM | Link to this

Joey, Joey, Joey! You poor thing— just like the other ill-mannered trolls here, you resort to impuning me personally when you get called on the lack of substance in your posts. “Oh, yeah? Well, YOU suck because you don’t like our president!” That’s about the gist of your posts! Honestly, it’s obvious the big words hurt your head, so I’ll try to make this simple for you: my dislike and distrust of Dubya & his ilk don’t make me a Democrat anymore than someone’s dislike of liver makes them a vegetarian (sorry— that last one was a big word, but I’ll just have to hope it didn’t tax you overmuch). You are such a sad, silly little man.

By Joe

November 1, 2005 01:14 PM | Link to this

Careful everyone, old Annie’s pool boy must not have shown up today and the bored, desperate housewife has nothing to do but take cheapshots at anyone who doesn’t agree with her or has to work for a living. Maybe her husband’s portfolio took another hit because her financial acumen lead her to make another stupid decision. At any rate, she’s spitting venom and foaming at the mouth with more unfounded B.S…..sounds just like another Michael Moore disciple aka democrat or dumb-o-crat, hypo-crat…….

By Anne M.

November 1, 2005 02:18 PM | Link to this

LOL! You do make me laugh, Joey! Pool-boy, indeed! As for “cheap shots”— you’re typical of the little bully-wanna-be who starts something, quickly finds himself out of his depth, resorts to namecalling, and then squalls when he gets a taste of his own medicine. You obviously can’t take it on the level that you’re accustomed to dishing it out. Ah, Tin Man, if you only had a brain! But thanks for the laughs. Tell you what— maybe you can catch my attention on another thread, and give me some more fodder to make sport of you. If not, well, it’s been fun (for me). blowing kisses

By Joe

November 1, 2005 02:20 PM | Link to this

Annie, Did you get permission from your husband to speak? Probably not. Old Annie has confused herself with somebody important!

By TrueConservative

November 1, 2005 07:17 PM | Link to this

Of course the Vice President didnt know anything about this ‘corruption’and he certainly didnt hear anything about it when he rode to work in the limo with Scooter Libby EVERY DAY.

Incedentally do you remember when that guy got pulled over downtown with a pound of cocaine and a AK-47 and the police assumed the guy in the seat next to him didnt know anything about it and didnt even search him-yeah I remember that.

Of course those are filthy poor poeple. Filthy rich people dont ever do anything wrong. There was no genicide in the 3rd largest oil producing nation because of President Exon P. Valdez… youre just paranoid- silly Liberals

let me just hit the snooze button…