We’re all Bushed.

I wonder if Karl Rove will be able to spin that as ‘those evil Democrats expect our ports to pay better wages for port security, it will make the prices of your cheap walmart goods go up’ or something like that. LOL

The few texts that do refer to the cult come not from Mithraic devotees themselves, but rather from outsiders such as early Church fathers, who mentioned Mithraism in order to attack it, and Platonic philosophers, who attempted to find support in Mithraic symbolism for their own philosophical ideas.”

David Ulansey “Solving the Mithraic Mysteries” Biblical Archaeology Review (vol. 20, #5 [September/October 1994] pp. 40-53)

You yokels up in Atlanta have never seen anything like it. The biggest St. Paddy’s day parade outside New York. Even bigger than Boston and Chicago, those other big Irish cities.

Maybe you thought the pope lived in Rome. Let me tell you, he just got off the boat from Cork.

I liked the Last Temptation, it another example of a big boycott/hoopla by people who had not seen it.

Ecrasons l’infame.

bad things = devil did it.(god busy elsewhere or even better, it must have been something you did that allowed god to be too busy elsewhere)

makes it real real simple, you see. LOL

win/win for all.

There is a wonderful scene towards the end of The Last Temptation of Christ where Jesus is having his diabolically inspired dream about being married and all that, Saul of Tarsus appears to him and tells him to go away because Saul/Paul has already figured out his shtick about saving mankind in the blood of Christ. The real Jesus could only get in the way.

Often he is depicted springing from the living rock or from a tree; at Housesteads on Hadrian’s Wall, however, there was a tradition that he was born from the Cosmic Egg. This sculpture shows Mithras bursting from the Egg whilst holding in his upraised hands the Sword of Truth and Torch of Light.

No virgin birth there.

The so-called 12 disciples were actually a dog, a snake and a scorpion, and twin Torchbearers. The number 12 that you spoke of actually referred to the signs of the zodiac NOT disciples.

Almost all of the mentions of this religion are achaeological. While it is noted that Mithras killed the bull, there is NO evidence that it happened over a 40 day period.

Also, in Mithras the adherent would go through 7 levels, much more like Hinduism/Budhism than Christianity, which makes sense since it originated in India.

The ideas ascribed to Mithraism by Mara came about much later than Christianity as a result of melding the 2 religions together that took place primarily because of the resistence of Roman soldiers who saw Mithras as a sort of patron for them.

I am very surprised this administration is giving it a green flag. One would THINK those kind of security things should be USA controlled, by US citizens.

But a news item I heard related to this whole port thing, we really need to be as concerned about the neighborhoods alot of containers are loaded in, overseas, most some very rough neighborhoods.

I would think we could agree it was these twelve men who created Christianity, especially the Saul/Paul guy.*

Josephous was not exactly a model Jew out to protect them by editing out Jesus. He made a suicide pact with the other generals in the Jewish army, but after the others had gone through with it, he changed his mind and joined up with Romans.

Also, Saul/Paul was not one of the 12. He came along later and never actually met Jesus. If someone made this type of claim today, we would laugh at them and them suggest they be committed. Have humans changed that much in 2000 years?

One day while sailing, something suddenly happened to the ship and it was about to sink. Terrified, the white folks aboard didn’t know what to do.

Someone suggested that they do what Negroes did…”Pray”. Unfortunately, no one knew what to say. So they called Thomas, a black cook on the ship and asked him to pray.

Thomas agreed and came up on deck to pray. He started like this: Lawd one day I wuz hongry. I went to a restaurunt to git me sumpin’ to eat!…An da sign said: “FOR WHITE FOLKS ONLY.”

So I went to da water fountin to git me some water an da sign said FOR WHITE FOLKS ONLY.” Den Lawd, I went to de toilet room an da sign said: “FOR WHITE FOLKS ONLY.” So Lawd Almightee…when dis hear big ‘ol boat sanks,..let it be FOR WHITE FOLKS ONLY.”
In yo name I pray…AMEN

Mara, I wouldn’t mind paying for other kids’ public school education if I knew they were really learning something.

Regarding Job,

Assuming this is a true story, Job’s ordeal helped/helps a lot of people to go through their “light affliction.” His story is a testament of faith, courage, endurance, trust, commitment, dedication, etc. And, in the end, Job recovered everything he had lost, and then some.

so the Jewish historians editted him out of the picture? and we are surprised, why? LOL

I would think we could agree it was these twelve men who created Christianity, especially the Saul/Paul guy.

But on the subject of the columns - I was born of american parents in France and was there for five years — I still remember the hate and bigotry of the local people. As far a the french goes they are not tolerant of anyone and are usually down right nasty. I can not speak for other countries having not experinced it first hand. HOwever when one imigrates to a new country it is up to those people to assimulate to the hosts countries values and morals not for the host country to change for them If they are not happy with the host countries rules of behavior —-move. They did not leave their old countries becuase they were so happy there… would you?

Hey y’all. What do you think about Dubya handing over the security and operations of six of our major seaports to a prince from the United Arab Emirates? Does it make you feel safer?

Hilarious!! ROFL

also I still can’t type.

The barman says “Wow!, you must have had one hell of a day.”

“Yes, I’ve just found out my older brother is gay.”

The next day the same guy came into the bar and asked for the same drinks. When the bartender asked what the problem was today, the answer came back, “I’ve just found out that my younger brother is gay too!”

On the third day the guy came into the bar and ordered another six double vodkas.

The bartender says “Geez! Doesn’t anybody in your family like women?”.

“Yeah, my wife…”

And these aspects of Mithras were well accepted before the appearance of Jesus of Galilee

Before heading south for a vacation, it may be a good idea to learn the language of our southern brothers and sisters. And we’re here to help…

Hah Tu Spek Suthun:

BARD - verb. Past tense of the infinitive “to borrow.” Usage: “My brother bard my pickup truck.”

JAWJUH - noun. A highly flammable state just north of Florida. Usage: “My brother from Jawjah bard my pickup truck.”

MUNTS - noun. A calendar division. Usage: “My brother from Jawjuh bard my pickup truck, and I taint herd from him in munts.”

ALL - noun. A petroleum-based lubricant. Usage: “I sure hope my brother from Jawjuh puts all in my pickup truck.”

FAR - noun. A conflagration. Usage: “If my brother from Jawjuh doesn’t change the all in my pickup truck, that things gonna catch far.”

BAHS - noun. A supervisor. Usage: “If you don’t stop reading these Southern words and git back to work, your bahs is gonna far you!”

TAR - noun. A rubber wheel. Usage: “Gee, I hope that brother of mine from Jawjuh doesn’t git a flat tar in my pickup truck.”

TIRE - noun. A tall monument. Usage: “Lord willing and the creeks don’t rise, I sure do hope to see that Eiffel Tire in Paris sometime.”

RETARD - Verb. To stop working. Usage: “My granpaw retard at age 65.”

RATS - noun. Entitled power or privilege. Usage: “We Southerners are willing to fight for out rats.”

FARN - adjective. Not local. Usage: “I cudnt unnerstand a wurd he sed … must be from some farn country.”

JU-HERE - a question. Usage: “Juhere that former Dallas Cowboys’ coach Jimmy Johnson recently toured the University of Alabama?”

HAZE - a contraction. Usage: “Is Bubba smart?” “Nah … haze ignert.”

VIEW - contraction: verb and pronoun. Usage: “I ain’t never seed New York City … view?”

GUMMIT - Noun. An often-closed bureaucratic institution. Usage: “Great … ANOTHER gummit shutdown!”

Moses says “First of all, I need to state that this function in no way is sponsored by the State”.

Whether the story is literal or not is not up to me. I believe it is a life lesson, that when bad things happen, don’t blame God, and when good things happen, thanks Him.

Saw ten seconds of the Trading Spouses and figured the comedy of mix-matched cultures would be too much so switched the channel, after all, all I have to do is come to W-2-W for that stuff.(got the jest in those ten seconds) hahahahahahahah Plus the short dark-haired woman was just too unappealing visually, all I have to do is go to a rural Southern town for more of her. Down the road, so to speak. LOL

Bergan County in NJ has a blue law that actually makes it illeagal to work on Sundays (except for needed services - police, fire, food and drug). What makes this funny is that the phone company has a major switch in the county and if it goes down on Sunday they can not repair it until monday.

The bet on JOB was would he love you so much if you were not so nice to him… I always took it as a metafor for ” standing by your convictions when times are good is easy - when times are bad is the true test) And no I am not a Christian - but I studied comparitive religiion in school for a few years (interest).

Didi you know that christianity wa sone of two religions (monolithic) that were competing for the status of “official religion of the Roman Empire” I forget the name of the other religion meta -something) but the “Son of God” in that religion faugth an evil bull in the desert for 40 days and nights before he vanquished it —- sound formiliar.

A father was at the beach with his children when his four-year old son ran up to him, grabbed his hand, & led him to the shore, where a seagull lay dead in the sand. “Daddy, what happened to him?” the son asked. “He died & went to Heaven,” the dad replied. The boy thought a moment & then said, “Did God throw him back down?”

A Sunday school class was studying the Ten Commandments. They were ready to discuss the last one. The teacher asked if anyone could tell her what it was. Susie raised her hand, stood tall, & shouted, “Thou shall not take the covers off thy neighbor’s wife.”

There was a group of scientists and they were all sitting around discussing which one of them was going to go to God and tell Him that they didn’t need him anymore.

One of the scientists volunteered and went to go tell God he was no longer needed.

The scientist says to God - “God, you know, a bunch of us have been thinking and I’ve come to tell you that we really don’t need you anymore. I mean, we’ve been coming up with great theories and ideas, we’ve cloned sheep, and we’re on the verge of cloning humans. So as you can see, we really don’t need you.”

God nods understandingly and says. “I see. Well, no hard feelings. But before you go let’s have a contest. What do you think?”

The scientist says, “Sure. What kind of contest?” God: “A man-making contest.”

The scientist: “Sure! No problem”. The scientist bends down and picks up a handful of dirt and says, “Okay, I’m ready!”

God replies, “No, no, no… You go get your own dirt.”

The last four U.S. Presidents are caught in a tornado in Kansas, and off they spin to the Land of OZ. After threatening trials and tribulations, they finally make it to the Emerald City and come before the Great Wizard.

“WHAT BRINGS YOU BEFORE THE GREAT WIZARD? WHAT DO YOU WANT?”

Jimmy Carter steps forward timidly: “I had a terrible time with Iran, so I’ve come for some courage.”

“No problem” says the Wizard, “WHO IS NEXT?” Ronald Reagan steps forward, “Well.., Well.., Well.., I need a brain.” “Done” says the Wizard.

“Who comes next before the Great Wizard?” Up steps George Bush sadly, “I’m told by the American people that I need a heart.”

“I’ve heard it’s true” says the Wizard. “Consider it done.”

Then there is a great silence. Bill Clinton is just standing there, looking around, but doesn’t say a word.

Irritated, the Wizard finally asks, “WHAT BRINGS YOU TO THE EMERALD CITY!?”

And Willie replies - “Is Dorothy around?”

Q: What’s the difference between Monica Lewinsky and the rest of us? A: In order for us to get some dick in the White House, we had to go out and vote.

Q: What’s the difference between Monica Lewinsky and the rest of us? A: In order for us to get some dick in the White House, we had to go out and vote.

American Indians have nicknamed Bill Clinton as “Walking Eagle” because he is so full of crap he can’t fly.

Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly, and for the same reason!

Basically, the parents allow the kids to do whatever they want, and there is no curriculum, no lesson planning, no textbooks, no homework or classwork - just fun, spontaneous “learning” in everything they do. The kids wake up when they feel like it, and decide for themselves what they want to do that day, play videogames, go to the park, watch cartoons, sleep, play on the trampoline, etc…

To be fair, at least one of the kids profiled on Dateline (or Primetime Live) was reading 3 grade levels above level. Another one had far superior standardized test scores…

As they say grace before their grits — and boy can they eat — all big butted women and big bellied men — I can hear their prayer even when silent: thank you, Lord, for not making me a heathen or a Jew or a liberal yankee.

That was the WEIRDEST show ever!!

Although I have to say, I understood where she was coming from. She was just wayyyyyy over the edge. WAY over.

Candide. I only go for red-heads.

Its 21st century America, isnt it time we stopped obeying laws based on one particular religion? Blue Laws prohibit Americans the ability to buy liquor on Sunday in Georgia— it is law based on the same kind of religious dominion over the masses we see happening in many predominantly Muslim countries. We recognize the intolerance overseas but what about in our back yard? When is Georgia going to give up its restrictive Blue laws that dictate conformity to religious-sect doctrines clearly inappropriate for all citizens of Georgia? When we sit in judgment over what is right for other nations why does it keep us from addressing the multitude of rights being denied by law occurring weekly in this state?

As for you Sir Boscoe: go back to Opus Dei.

I see what you mean.

If you scratch a Candide, you find a Norman, no perjorative needed. No ability to walk upright. Descended from an ape less than 3 generations ago, he swings through the trees looking for little Christian children to consume.

Found among a primitive tribe such a Norman would be right at home. He might even work himself into a leadership position.

72john, looking for that first meltdown of the morning…don’t disappoint.

Found among a primitive tribe such a religion would elicit laughter and tears. Found among 20th-Century Americans it makes one wonder whether it would not be better for Americans to be obliterated from the face of the earth. No other modern nation has such ridiculous beliefs. I shudder at the fact that our president may share them. I say “may” share them because there is always the chance that Bush just pretends to believe this baloney.

Incidentally, Shiite Islam is very sado-masochistic; scholars think it was heavily influenced by Christianity. Remember most of those who became Muslims in the first 2\300 years of Islam were ex-Christians.

Can you imagine if the debate on the 10 comandments was debated by “those people” or their tactics. Their choice of punctuation is an explosion.

THe problem as I see it is that any fundamentalist has learned what to think not HOW to think. There is a huge difference there.

If these violent protesters knew how to properly express themselves the rest of the world wouldn’t reguard them as “nutcases”.

Quit justifying yourself. You enjoy this and draw great pleasure from calling names and throwing incendiary comments out just like all the rest. Come down off the pedestal Saint Chuck, they’re all laughing at you!

Yeah, you’re really constructive and kind. How could I ever have confused that???

Sorry Chuck, you are, always were, and always will be, a bigot. I only hate those who hate me first. It’s real simple Chuck. You, on the other hand, hate anyone that you imagine God has told you to.

Back to Chuck. Chuck, feel free to ridicule my masculinity, insult me, do all those things you do whenever I call you out for the bigoted piece of trash that you are. It just shows what a stereotype-believing moron you really are.

Rot in hell Chuck, along with the other Fundy Chrisitan facist garbage you associate with. As to Carter - look it up, Chuck. You wouldn’t know real history if it hit you in the face.

sorry

FYI, RF…I don’t normally “bait” 72john. If you look back, most of his attackshave come after I have responded to a legitimate question from another poster. I have NEVER considered myself persecuted on this board in any real sense of the word. As you may have noticed, I answer any questions asked of me no matter how ridiculous. Yes sometimes the sarcasm seeps in, but that is honestly the product of growing up in a houseful of smart alecks who love to “jank” on each other. To me it is part of the fun. It is not MEANT to be hurtful. Usually it is either in fun OR to emphasize a point.

So feel free to keep up the attacks. I’m a real man and I can take it.

Christians are supposed to shut up and lighten up and take a joke. Atheists though, they offend REAL easy so tread l-i-g-h-t-l-y ok. Don’t hurt their wittle feewings….

“There once was a john from nantucket, Whose ….” (nevermind)

hi mah! :) now lozen… how do you know that torture wasn’t Job’s lil cup o tea… he might have been into that sort of thing

Thanks Chuck, for validating my post from 11:32 this morning.

Carter’s so called negotiations to get the hostages back is another hilarious joke. Reagan gets the credit, because they knew he wouuld flatten Iran if anything happened there. They let the hostages go BEFORE the inauguration because the troops were already on standby to go in and get them. Talk about revisionist history. But 72john, I fully expect that from you.

Anybody wonder why Julia’s joke about athiests bothered john so much? I thought that he said he was not an athiest. Maybe I’m wrong. He’s gonna believe in God one day.

BTW john, according to dictionary.com

bigot

n : a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own.

The biggest bigot on this board is one 72john who constantly attacks anyone who does not hold the same wrong opinion as his.

I rarely if ever attack. I never tell anyone that they don’t have the RIGHT to hold their opinion though I don’t hesitate to disagree with that opinion. That is the difference between john, lozer, kimberly and the other leftist on the board and ME. I am perfectly willing to allow you the expression of any opinion you hold. john and his ilk want all Christians silenced and removed from public life if not life altogether. Wait a minute…is that another meltdown I hear?

I’m not available.

Do a little research before you criticize. It’s easy to believe the “popular” version of history, but you do no credit to yourself or to the person you malign by just repeating what you think you know.

In just a few minutes, I was able to uncover multiple sources outlining Carter’s tireless work to negotiate for the release of the hostages even after he had lost the election. It was his negotiations that resulted in the hostages being freed. Reagan gets the credit because he was in office at the time. For a whole three minutes.

You’re better than that Jack.

Isn’t it funny how Iran released the hostages mere minutes after the innauguration, and how shortly thereafter the US starting selling them weapons?

And they wonder why I don’t “just TRUST them!”

You know I dont care! I dont give a rats—-

What I want to know is why American extremists wont allow me to buy beer on Sunday in this holy state of Georgia???

Islam is as peaceful a religion as Christianity (if not more so—as any glance through history will show you). As always, the only real danger to humanity comes from blind zealotry and self-righteous hatred for anyone who dares to question or think differently.

That’s not exclusive to Islam; ALL religions have their sick, fundamentalist slime to contend with.

Okay, so I’m a bit dark and cynical today. Must be the weather….nah, it’s the laundry. That tends to make me a bit cranky!

Logically is there any difference between that and praising an accomplice of the person who killed your own relative?