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Of condoms, the Catholic League, and the University of Georgia

Nothing, apparently, is more volatile than a mixture of sex, universities and a state budget crisis.

You know that Georgia State University took a great deal of heat this month for possessing academics who claim bookish expertise about such forbidden topics as oral sex and male prostitution.

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So when the Catholic League in New York objected today to an STD/birth control poster issued by the University of Georgia, the institution folded like a genuine Barlow. The reason? The poster featured Michelangelo’s image of the hand of God giving life to Adam — except that between the two fingers, one mortal and one not, was a condom.

“Carefully open condom wrappers with your fingers — don’t use a sharp object,” advised the poster, which was placed in dorms by the university health service as part of Sexual Health Awareness Week, which ended last Friday. As all of you know.

The Catholic League, in a complaint filed today with UGA vice president for student affairs, Rodney Bennett, said the university had “hijacked” an icon of Christianity.

“I hasten to add that the University of Georgia would never choose a depiction of Muhammad to hawk condoms. Indeed, only a few years ago an inoffensive depiction of this Islamic figure in a Danish cartoon led to murder and churches being burned to the ground. One can only imagine what would have happened had he been portrayed pushing condoms to youth,” wrote League president Bill Donahue.

CNN had already aired a morning spot about the GSU controversy and threats from state lawmakers. The piece included mention of a UGA course in “queer theory.”

The League filed its complaint about the condom poster at noon today. Bennett apologized by 2 p.m. Tom Jackson, UGA vice president for dealing with reporters on sensitive topics, emphasized his institution’s sincere regrets for the poster.

“[Bennett] understands that some in the Christian community might be offended by it, and he apologized to the Catholic League,” Jackson said. The UGA spokesman also pointed out that the posters had disappeared five days before the complaint was received.

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By George P. Burdell

February 18, 2009 6:46 PM | Link to this

The Catholic League will be pleased to know that here at Tech we never have need of condoms!

By OZZFEST

February 18, 2009 7:01 PM | Link to this

Catholics are idiots. My neighbors are Catholic, they moved in 4 years ago and now have 3 kids…the wife does not work and the husband drives a 15 year old POS Honda; and they “can’t afford” to eat dinner out with my wife and I. If you can not afford a $50 dinner, THEN STOP HAVING KIDS! How the hell do they plan to pay for college? The Pope must be a real turd to hang out with.

By Speaking the Truth

February 18, 2009 7:03 PM | Link to this

“Politically correct” does not work. By continuing on this road we have become a nation of minority rule. The voices of the few nearly always drown out those of the majority. No matter what is said or done, someone will be upset, and it is time that we as a people can be content with such an outcome. It is imperative for the difficult discussions and statements to not be trumped by a few individuals who insist wearing their feelings on their shoulders. There are winners and losers, minorities and majorities, and sooner or later these realities must come to light and be accepted at face value. The bottom line- stop whining because someone has a different viewpoint than you. They have just as much of a right to publicly state their views as everyone else.

By Borat Obama

February 18, 2009 7:09 PM | Link to this

OZZFEST, are you retarded or just ignorant?

By masivatack

February 18, 2009 7:11 PM | Link to this

…Jesus

By UGA Alum/Staff Member

February 18, 2009 7:13 PM | Link to this

This is a PUBLIC STATE University! It’s completely appropriate for student services to educate and advertise about sexual health. There are 33,831 students currently enrolled here. Many of them are doing it!!! It’s 2009! Modernize or dissolve, Catholic Church!

By Matthew

February 18, 2009 7:13 PM | Link to this

OZZFEST:

Your neighbors may just be polite rather than declining your invitation… because, in your brief post, you come across as a moron.

Then again, maybe they have a budget and don’t believe that purchasing a vanity car or dining out is necessary.

And to Speaking the Truth…

You are probably the type of person who believes the poster is just fine… but the moment Christianity is mentioned in public schools, you’re the first in line to complain about it.

By Tokyo jacket

February 18, 2009 7:17 PM | Link to this

To the “truth”: I’m going to make an exagerated case here. How would you feel if someone took an excerpt from a pornographic movie and put your wife’s/mother’s/sister’s face in place of the actress and displayed it under the auspice of freedom of speech, perhaps even with a catchy phrase? It wouldn’t offend me, but I imagine you wouldn’t like it. That’s the reaction that some people have to this type of alteration. You’re taking something that people hold holy, not just important, but truly holy and altering it to something that’s against their beliefs. I’m not saying it’s rational, but you have to understand the level of emotion. And, just so you know, catholics comprise about 20-25% of the earth’s population, I wouldn’t exactly qualify them as a minority.

Also, I sympathize with the comment about Muhammed. “We have to be sensitive to the muslims and their feelings but it’s cool if we disregard the catholics, that’s just funny” is the general sense I get.

By the way, OZZFEST, you’re a moron. If you know how, I recommend you search for statistics and income levels associated with a variety of religions. What you find would probably rock your tiny little mind.

By UGA Alum/Staff Member

February 18, 2009 7:21 PM | Link to this

This is a PUBLIC STATE University! It’s completely appropriate for student services to educate and advertise about sexual health. There are 33,831 students currently enrolled here. Many of them are doing it!!! It’s 2009! Modernize or dissolve, Catholic Church!

By That is priceless...

February 18, 2009 7:23 PM | Link to this

Let me get this straight, Ozzfest… Your neighbor is an idiot (and all Catholics, too! apparently) because he has a large family, chooses not to spend his money foolishly on dinners out and new cars that depreciate quickly, and works hard so that his wife can stay home and take care of their family.

Is it possible that he just doesn’t WANT to go out to dinner with a fool like you?

He sounds like a great guy with his priorities in line to me. He has a peace that I hope you find.

All the best!

By BRAVO

February 18, 2009 7:26 PM | Link to this

Matthew, THANK YOU for saying what I was thinking — only much better than I could have!

By That is priceless...

February 18, 2009 7:27 PM | Link to this

Let me get this straight, Ozzfest… Your neighbor is an idiot (and all Catholics, too! apparently) because he has a large family, chooses not to spend his money foolishly on dinners out and new cars that depreciate quickly, and works hard so that his wife can stay home and take care of their family.

Is it possible that he just doesn’t WANT to go out to dinner with a fool like you?

He sounds like a great guy with his priorities in line to me. He has a peace that I hope you find.

All the best!

By That is priceless...

February 18, 2009 7:27 PM | Link to this

Let me get this straight, Ozzfest… Your neighbor is an idiot (and all Catholics, too! apparently) because he has a large family, chooses not to spend his money foolishly on dinners out and new cars that depreciate quickly, and works hard so that his wife can stay home and take care of their family.

Is it possible that he just doesn’t WANT to go out to dinner with a fool like you?

He sounds like a great guy with his priorities in line to me. He has a peace that I hope you find.

All the best!

By Priceless

February 18, 2009 7:28 PM | Link to this

Let me get this straight, Ozzfest… Your neighbor is an idiot (and all Catholics, too! apparently) because he has a large family, chooses not to spend his money foolishly on dinners out and new cars that depreciate quickly, and works hard so that his wife can stay home and take care of their family.

Is it possible that he just doesn’t WANT to go out to dinner with a fool like you?

He sounds like a great guy with his priorities in line to me. He has a peace that I hope you find.

All the best!

By Chuck Uga

February 18, 2009 7:28 PM | Link to this

Listen folks, just do whatever you want! We’re all going to live forever! Pay no attention to the thought of what happens to you after you are dead! I’m sure we will all just rot in a coffin. And I’m sure the Universe just “happened.” Ozzfest and UGA Alum/Staff, if there is a God, I’m sure he/she will understand if you do whatever the hell you want! No problem! He/she will modify the rules for you just like the Democrats are going to modify the U.S. Constitution! If it feels good, DO IT! Whatever works! Write your own ticket to heaven! Just throw away the Bible, you don’t need it!

By Priceless

February 18, 2009 7:29 PM | Link to this

Let me get this straight, Ozzfest… Your neighbor is an idiot (and all Catholics, too! apparently) because he has a large family, chooses not to spend his money foolishly on dinners out and new cars that depreciate quickly, and works hard so that his wife can stay home and take care of their family.

Is it possible that he just doesn’t WANT to go out to dinner with a fool like you?

He sounds like a great guy with his priorities in line to me. He has a peace that I hope you find.

All the best!

By GaLiberal

February 18, 2009 7:30 PM | Link to this

Borat, are you retarted or just ignorant?

By st patrick

February 18, 2009 7:31 PM | Link to this

Matthew, Nicely done sir…nicely done.

By some sense

February 18, 2009 7:31 PM | Link to this

Try this, guys.

Choose life or death.

Take your pick.

Got it???

By Michael

February 18, 2009 7:31 PM | Link to this

Ozzfest - Did you ever think they didn’t want to eat out with YOU???I would rather have some great children than an overpriced meal at Denny’s.

By Jerry

February 18, 2009 7:39 PM | Link to this

Ditto! Ozzfest is an idiot and THAT’S the consensus here. Keep up with the Jones’s we’ll bail your dumb a$$ out.

I wouldn’t want to go to dinner with your ignorant a$$ either.

Now spew about the hundreds of thousands you make, and the 6 Beamers in your household, oh and don’t forget the yacht. Hahahahahaha

By Speaking the Truth

February 18, 2009 7:42 PM | Link to this

Matthew- I teach in a public school and could care less what types of religious beliefs (or any other beliefs for that matter) are “allowed” inside the school doors. My concern is that, barring an issue of security, everyone is offered the opportunity to speak.

Tokyo- That is a legal issue as opposed to a freedom of speech issue. Your example has no relevance to this subject.

“Sensitivity” often shrouds the truth. Just because it may or may not leave a bitter taste in your mouth doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be said.

By Gman

February 18, 2009 7:42 PM | Link to this

Way to go Catholic league! Defend the church which is viewed by the public to be okayed to the punching bag. Matthew has it right. Ozzfest shows why his neighbors don’t want to eat with him. It’s a free country. If they want to have kids and not eat with you and drive an old car. It’s their choice as it is your choice to make your car and your $50 dollar meals your lifestyle. And for you, UGA Alum/Staff. Yes. Student services can educate, but it shouldn’t ridicule other’s while they’re educating. If you want separation of church and state, then don’t bring the church into it. Show UGA VIII giving you a condom or have Michelle give Obama a condom, that way you keep the public, public and leave church (i.e painting found in the Vatican, spiritual site to many of those students of yours) out of it.

By dave

February 18, 2009 7:45 PM | Link to this

OZZFEST did you ever consider that the reason they won’t go out to eat with you and your wife, isn’t really about the money? I could buy and sell you, and I can tell from your post, I don’t even want to be in the same room with you.

By bdawgfan

February 18, 2009 7:45 PM | Link to this

The catholic church is a cult. Who cares what they think.

Mr. Bennett’s analogy is absurd. The catholics and other christians were burning temples and mosques and killing people who believed differently long before some fanatical Islamic groups adopted that approach. Maybe its time they crank up the inquisitions and kill and torture anyone who dares to insult there faith.

By Tucker

February 18, 2009 7:47 PM | Link to this

Since our state legislators lack the intelligence to deal with the important issues of the state budget, it is wonderful that they have these topics, which they can get their arms around.

By bdawgfan

February 18, 2009 7:49 PM | Link to this

Who cares what the Catholic League thinks.

Mr. Donahue’s analogy is absurd. The catholics and other christians were burning temples and mosques and killing people who believed differently long before some fanatical Islamic groups adopted that approach. Maybe its time they crank up the inquisitions and kill and torture anyone who dares to insult their faith.

By iconoclast

February 18, 2009 7:50 PM | Link to this

Hell hath no fury like that of the Holy See scorned by the abominable use of the artistry from one of the Vatican and history’s most cherished homosexual artists!

By OZZFEST

February 18, 2009 7:51 PM | Link to this

Sorry, I work, take care of my wife and kids AND VACATION IN MAUI every other year. I guess I am just too good for both my neighbor AND YOU.

By JMO

February 18, 2009 7:55 PM | Link to this

This complaint is ludicrous! The Catholic Church’s frustration in this message is with Islam/Muslims and should be directed there and not at the University of Georgia. All GOOD Catholics KNOW they should NOT pay attention to birth control; STD prevention is another matter.

What the hell does the extremist reaction by followers of the “peaceful” religion of Islam have to do with this poster?

By The Captain

February 18, 2009 7:57 PM | Link to this

Bill Donohue and the catholic league are a bunch of PC bullies who go around trying to silence anyone they fell “offends” them, and it seems everyone offends them! What doesn’t upset the catholic league now a days… Oh yea, holocaust deniers.

By chuck allison

February 18, 2009 8:04 PM | Link to this

OZZFEST, one of the reasons our economy is now in the tank is because people like you were willing to spend $50 for a meal. No wonder the value of the dollar is falling!

By Pointofview

February 18, 2009 8:04 PM | Link to this

OK: I’m not a Catholic. What does that mean? It doesn’t just mean that I believe the teachings of the Catholic Church but choose not to obey them; it means I don’t believe that the teachings of the Catholic church are correct. the Catholic church is demanding respect for its positions on a number of matters, even from non-Catholics, but they don’t respect our beliefs — such as: that failure to practice birth control is wrong — not just inconvenient, but morally wrong. Why am I not due equal respect for, and the right to express, my genuinely held moral beliefs?

By ferguson

February 18, 2009 8:06 PM | Link to this

This the most rediculous thing i have ever heard. You do know that picture of “Jesus” in your church isn’t real right?

By RLM

February 18, 2009 8:07 PM | Link to this

It is not the job of a public university to mock religious items. There should be separation of church and state but not persecution by belittling religious themes. The poster was in poor taste and sophomoric. The school needs to use a little common sense. I can see a fraternity displaying this but not a top university. This is not being pc on the part of the Catholic League. This is defending their right not to be abused. People who agree with this sign are the yahoos who thought it was fun to lynch blacks and mock Catholics and Jews. this is being discourteous and oafish of the school to have this.

By OZZFEST

February 18, 2009 8:14 PM | Link to this

Man, y’all are some cheap eaters. I did not say I ate out every night…but if you can not spend $50 for a dinner for two once a year, then you have problems. A large pizza costs $18. I put myself through college and a master’s program & have saved over $400,000 in 10 years since I got married. I am suprised your wife stays with you if you think $50 for a night out is a big deal. Even my UGA football season tickets are $40 per ticket. You Catholics are dumber and CHEAPER than I would have ever thought.

By Jozef

February 18, 2009 8:19 PM | Link to this

I agree with UGA Alum/Staff Member and others who pointed out that as a public university, UGA is obligated to educate its students. Sexual education is part of a well-rounded person’s knowledge set. I’d just add that the image used has been in public domain for centuries, and so neither the Catholic Church nor anyone else have the right to restrict its use.

By Speaking the Truth

February 18, 2009 8:23 PM | Link to this

Jesus was black- deal with it.

The Catholic Church did more to persecute and divide the world throughout history than any other “publicly accepted” entity and should hold its place in history next to Pol Pot, Hitler, and Stalin (Oh yeah, and the United States government- let’s not forget the millions of indians killed or placed into concentration camps- better known as “reservations”).

By Speaking the Truth

February 18, 2009 8:29 PM | Link to this

Jesus was black- deal with it.

The Catholic Church did more to persecute and divide the world throughout history than any other “publicly accepted” entity and should hold its place in history next to Pol Pot, Hitler, and Stalin (Oh yeah, and the United States government- let’s not forget the millions of indians killed or placed into concentration camps- better known as “reservations”).

By cyclemania

February 18, 2009 8:31 PM | Link to this

The scriptures are clear: fornication is SIN, those that engage in premarital sex are sinning. Those that would discount this are living a lie and yet they think themselves so enlightened and hip. SAd day when our colleges are replete with spiritual idiots……in years gone by the learned would realize that embracing the faith and being educated went hand in hand…today the pathetic, undisciplined, worldly youth are duped and think themselves to be superior. Judgement awaits these fools.

By Speaking the Truth

February 18, 2009 8:48 PM | Link to this

Cyclemania- You can’t pick and choose which doctrines of your religion to follow. Calling these young people “spiritual idiots” and “fools” is passing judgment, which if I recall correctly, is against the teachings of the Christian bible. Your banter, in my opinion, is typical of over-zealous, hypocritical Christian blowhards.

By Will Jones

February 18, 2009 8:53 PM | Link to this

We came here to escape the Old Sectarian Order of king and pope and established, through Our Whig Founders, The New Secular Order - Novus Ordo Seclorem - and made it part of Our Creed. Whig means “anti-Roman Catholic” and Our Founder, Author of the Declaration of American Independence, Thomas Jefferson, recognized Rome as “the real Anti-Christ,” with full substantiation for all true Americans to read and know.

Promoted by Rome, pushed to emigrate to America by design, just as Rome is pushing illegals here now, Roman Catholics won the Civil War, then killed Lincoln six days after Appomattox because he wanted to let the South up easy.

Since then they have taken over Big Oil and implemented the Federal Reserve Bank; financed the rise of Hitler, and the Holocaust; fomented the Red Scare to evade accountability for Hitler and Nazism; killed John and Martin to keep us dying in their slave plantation of Vietnam; ran IranContra through their altarboy Ollie North to keep their Central American hegemony intact against encroaching Protestantism; promote illegal immigration to literally take over the U.S.; the S&L Bailout to enrich the Rockefellers, DuPonts, and Organized Crime; Waco to shut-up the Seventh Day Adventists’ explaining on their own radio station how Rome had taken over Washington; cheated into office a homosexual draft-dodger (Hitler’s banker’s grandson and the son of one of JFK’s assassins) to commit 9/11 for Big Oil, to restart the Afghan opium trade, and the Saudis - who teamed up with the Vatican-banker Rockefellers a hundred years ago; and the parts of the “Stimulus Bill” to bail out their Wall Street loan sharks greedily leveraging off the unconstitutional money system now faltering.

…and any Georgian or American is going to give a good G-ddam* about what the frontman for the pedophile priesthood and the Anti-Christ’s “Black Aristocracy” has to say?

Someone get a hook for the Anti-Christ…the Pit awaits…and ropes for the necks of the traitors who serve it. It’s “them” or ‘us.” Pick sides and let’s get down to business of being American.

Death for Treason

Jeffersonian Exegesis

By cyclemania

February 18, 2009 9:00 PM | Link to this

Speaking the Truth—- odd that you use that handle; the TRUTH of the scriptures is that premarital sex is sin. For me to render judgement is NOT ME but GOD and his absolutes found in the Bible…oh yeah, I forgot that today people can not take criticism and thus hold in judgement folks that adhere to the Bible. Here is my advice: read Ephesians, chapter six, then reflect upon what you said earlier.

By Speaking the Truth

February 18, 2009 9:06 PM | Link to this

Cyclemania- is that in the original bible, or the one King James commissioned to be written to fit his lifestyle and preferences?

By Pillsbury Doughboy

February 18, 2009 9:17 PM | Link to this

Ozzfest, I wouldn’t want to eat dinner with you either. And I’m Episcopalian!!!

By MichaelG

February 18, 2009 9:21 PM | Link to this

Why are Christians so concerned about people having premarital sex? How is it any of your business what goes on in private between two consenting adults that doesn’t violate laws or human rights? If they are going to have sex, regardless of your judgments, why not make sure they are at least being responsible enough to help avoid unwanted children and the spread of STDs?

By Andrew

February 18, 2009 9:26 PM | Link to this

Cyclemania, guess what, not everyone follows your bible, nor is it mandated to follow your bible by the government, though I’m sure you get a stiff one thinking about the government doing so.

I suggest you read John 8:7.

By Will Jones

February 18, 2009 9:31 PM | Link to this

Jefferson called it The Bible…and the “New Testament”…making a clear and obvious distinction between the Original, and the “book” for “Replacement Theology,” created by Rome’s elite as a tool against the Jews. Viz: crucifixon was the one, specific and unique punishment for only one crime under the codified Roman law: the second conviction for sedition.

Tens of thousands were crucified by Rome. Denying the divinity of caesar was considered sedition. The first conviction for the offense garnered a certain number of lashes with a whip-of-cords.

For no other “offense” was any crucified. Jews used stoning for capital punishment.

Read “A Moral Reckoning,” by the author of “Hitler’s Willing Executioners,” Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, to know with complete certainty that two popes and the Roman Catholic Church are “morally, ethically, and legally culpable of the Holocaust.”

They have to keep America and the world “backing up,” just as their front Bush had to commit the Reichstag Fire Redux, or they are “toast.”

Rome and Donohue…and any who serve up their children to the proven pedophile priesthood, and support illegal immigration to take over Our Country, have zero moral authority…zero, zilch, nada.

It is the identified Anti-Christ and must be “cast into the Pit” by thinking American Patriots. They need to destroy us or they will be ended.

To defend the “graven image” painted by Michelangelo to depict G-d is just one more clear example of the false religion their “engine for enslaving mankind” employs.

Let Atlanta and Georgia, where Rome is weakest in America, be the Rock of Righteousness and American Patriotism upon which The Beast is finally destroyed.

Death for Treason

By Andrew

February 18, 2009 9:35 PM | Link to this

Cyclemania, guess what, not everyone follows your bible, nor is it mandated to follow your bible by the government, though I’m sure you get a stiff one thinking about the government doing so.

I suggest you read John 8:7.

By James

February 18, 2009 9:38 PM | Link to this

Wow. Nothing wrong with education. If you want to promot condoms, that’s fine but dont denegrate Christianity in the process. To say that the catholic church is pc is rediculous. PC would be that abstinance is useless and abortion, birth control are the ONLY viable options to manage sexual health. PC would be that it’s ok to slam the Christian church on every corner but to do so to Islam, or question hinduism or even Oprah is ……dare I say heresy. As a UGA alum this sickens me. Again, I have no issue with condoms or sexual education to prevent the transmission of STD’s however this is nothing more than a blow @ Christianity and it’s view of how to manage, prevent STD’s and unwanted pregnancy. If you want to address STD’s pregnancy prevention in a completely, sterile way, then do so. But just because many at UGA consider themselves the Berkley of the South East coast doesn’t give them the right to take cheap shots and the religion this country was founded on. Furthermore it begs the question as to why there wasn’t a poster with muslim reference on it. I mean aren’t muslims pretty strict with their sexual conduct??? Oh that’s right, the Christians will sit there and take it while the other guys……well you know.

By Fred

February 18, 2009 9:42 PM | Link to this

I find it amusing that the freedom FROM religion sect is condoning the use of a religious icon when it suits their needs. If that SAME painting were depicted (and be sure it IS a religious painting) on the walls of the same state sponsored University WITHOUT the rubber message, without any message at all, they would be screaming to have it removed as it was a religious icon.

I’m not Catholic, the truth be told, I’m not really even religious. Yet I find the poster in poor taste. I would find it in poor taste if it were a picture depicting Mohammed slipping a rubber to one of the little boys HE butt raped. I would find it in poor taste if it depicted Buddha rubbing a rubber on his johnson rahter than rubbing his fat belly.

Yet YOU GaAlum?staff member, would probably be leading the protest if it had showed any other religious icon slipping a rubber to a brother. YOU would have been leading the protest of the CHRISTIAN religious picture being painted on a UGA wall without a rubber being passed.

OZZFEST? LOLI think your dumb a* has been dealt with. You are not just a moron as others have stated, you are a revolving moron. A revolving moron is a moron who, no matter which way they turn, or which way you look at them is STILL a moron. I use the term moron, because the appropriate word, a vulgar version of the word anus, would not slip by the auto snagger here. The truth be told, I doubt your scorned Catholic neighbors would pay 50 cents to walk across the street to pee on you if you were on fire. I know I wouldn’t.

By Speaking the Truth

February 18, 2009 9:42 PM | Link to this

Will Jones- How’s Jim? I hear Jonestown is nice this time of year. Creepy, bro. Your writings are the stuff of extremist propaganda.

By Maverick

February 18, 2009 9:50 PM | Link to this

I am a Baptist, Southern Baptist to be exact and I have to say I see nothing wrong with the sex posters. The Catholics need to get a life and learn to use sexual protection lol.

By Politically Incorrect

February 18, 2009 9:50 PM | Link to this

Most of you get WAAAAYYYY too upset over this religious thing. Believe what you want, as fervently as you want, but do not push it or demand it of others.

Those who believe otherwise are to be watched closely, because that group (regardless of your religion) is dangerous and frequently capable of violence.

By Baptist

February 18, 2009 9:52 PM | Link to this

I am a Baptist, Southern Baptist to be exact and I have to say I see nothing wrong with the sex posters. The Catholics need to get a life and learn to use sexual protection lol.

By Will Jones

February 18, 2009 10:21 PM | Link to this

I’m merely quoting America’s Founder, Author, and Prophet. They are his words you (presumably not an American with any grasp of history, science, or theology) find to be objectionable.

Whigs - committed anti-Roman Catholics - founded America. Given the abominations committed of late against The People, The Constitution, and the Treasury, by Rome’s proven representatives and agents, who but a committed philistine, fascist, or Fifth Column traitor would be unwilling to investigate where “we” went wrong?

To Samuel Kercheval Monticello, January 19, 1810

SIR, -- Yours of the 7th instant has been duly received, with the pamphlet inclosed, for which I return you my thanks. Nothing can be more exactly and seriously true than what is there stated; that but a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of the Jewish religion, before his principles were departed from by those who professed to be his special servants, and perverted into an engine for enslaving mankind, and aggrandising their oppressors in Church and State; that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man, has been adulterated and sophisticated by artificial constructions, into a mere contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves; that rational men not being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force them down their throats, they raise the hue and cry of infidelity, while themselves are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real doctrines of Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ.

By Will Jones

February 18, 2009 10:28 PM | Link to this

fyi “Bennett” is a Roman Catholic name from the Italian name “Bennetti,” so it’s no wonder they caved. Rome has already taken over the University of Virginia, founded by Thomas Jefferson. No doubt UGA and every other major college and university is targeted by Rome for takeover - as is the U.S. by their promotion of illegal immigration - that America “forget,” and be “untaught” who we are as an “exceptional” sovereign nation.

By Bubba

February 18, 2009 10:44 PM | Link to this

Baptist,you are not a “Southern Baptist”,you are a Southern idiot. First off, it is not a “sex poster”,secondly a true southern baptist WOULD have a problem with it.

By Will Jones

February 18, 2009 10:57 PM | Link to this

Anonymously calling him/herself “Bubba,” an undercover Roman Catholic trying to seem “Southern,” just like the Roman Catholics with the fake “over-the-top” Southern “accents” like Phil Gingrey, and those saying St. Joseph’s was “the first hospital in Atlanta,” and that a Roman Catholic priest stopped Sherman from burning the downtown churchs…liars and traitors all.

The poster depicted from UGA is a “sex poster,” and only a fake “Southern” papist would write “s”outhern “b”aptist and knock someone sharing the truth, as truth is death for Rome.

By Bubba's Correct

February 18, 2009 11:00 PM | Link to this

Well said, Bubba.

Plus, anyone who uses “lol” is a double idiot. And an effeminate idiot at that.

By One Voice

February 18, 2009 11:03 PM | Link to this

All religions are cults and all religious people are cult followers; they are indoctrinated lemmings who form their core beliefs not around reason and evidence, but around irrational fabrications that less educated people told them to believe. Birth control/STD protection is good, and if advertising it angers a group of indoctrinated fools, all the better.

By LeroyLedbetter

February 18, 2009 11:09 PM | Link to this

Jesus didn’t need know condom! Why do these youngins?

By Racebaiter

February 18, 2009 11:49 PM | Link to this

Like the article stated, if they had used an image of Mohammad, people would be outraged. The left, including many here, would be screaming about insensitivity. Care to explain the difference? Do Christians need to start beheading people to get your respect?

By DLink

February 19, 2009 12:10 AM | Link to this

Sounded like a veiled, radical threat mentioning the Muslim incident to me. Totally unnecessary and inappropriate in any case, more so in that the poster had already been taken down. A simple, “You idiots! Don’t do that again, Thank You.” would have easily sufficed. IMO

By One Voice

February 19, 2009 12:13 AM | Link to this

Racebaiter: Muslims are just as much of cult followers as Christians. None of you deserve respect. How’s that for sensitivity? You’re all equal fools.

By Mary St, James

February 19, 2009 12:21 AM | Link to this

Shove it up your arse, One Voice. Nobody asked you.

By john

February 19, 2009 1:00 AM | Link to this

The planet would be a much nicer place if all religions would keep their beliefs to themselves!

By Joe

February 19, 2009 1:03 AM | Link to this

The above comments have given us a clear choice:

  • Personal gratifiction with no responsibility and no obligation to God (indeed, insulting His institution of marriage). Sexual intercourse outside of marriage is not a right, it is a sin now glorified by Hollywood and our permissive, sad society. OR:

  • A responsible society based on time-proven laws given us by God. All rights come from God, as this country’s founders, and our founding documents clearly attest. God’s laws, if followed, can save this society.

  • TAKE YOUR PICK, FOLKS! God has also given you a free will to save your souls or go to hell.

    By ELMORE

    February 19, 2009 1:43 AM | Link to this

    Remarkable how many folks totally miss the point. Too many sophomores?

    By Frat

    February 19, 2009 2:01 AM | Link to this

    Guess what? Religion has no place in a PUBLIC University. I attend the University of Georgia, I am Catholic and I could give a crap about the add. If it encourgaes people to use condoms get over it. Freedom of Speech has not been violated here. The University of Georgia can satirize the work of art just as much as the Catholic Church can use it. What’s really more important, controlling STD’s and birth or appeasing the Catholic Center in Athens? It’s really a no brainer. Michelangelo created the Sistine Chapel not the Catholic Church. If he complained about it maybe some reason would be given to the case, however, he is dead. The Catholic Church doesn’t have a right to criticize the University of Georgia, all they have is an opinion. And guess what, opinions don’t mean s**.

    By Frat

    February 19, 2009 2:06 AM | Link to this

    Guess what? Religion has no place in a PUBLIC University. I attend the University of Georgia, I am Catholic and I could give a crap about the ad. If it encourages people to use condoms get over it. Freedom of Speech has not been violated here. The University of Georgia can satirize the work of art just as much as the Catholic Church can use it. What’s really more important, controlling STD’s and birth or appeasing the Catholic Center in Athens? It’s really a no brainer. Michelangelo created the Sistine Chapel not the Catholic Church. If he complained about it maybe some reason would be given to the case, however, he is dead. The Catholic Church doesn’t have a right to criticize the University of Georgia, all they have is an opinion. And guess what, opinions don’t mean s**. Not to mention, marriage was instituted by man, not God. Where in the Bible does it say Adam and Eve were married? No where. Get off the sex before marriage campaign. Adam and Eve did it without marriage and according to you, we owe our entire existence to them. Bible Thumper’s have no reasonable argument, the Bible was written by man.

    Here is to drinking on Sunday’s,

    Frat

    By Bob LeBlah

    February 19, 2009 2:09 AM | Link to this

    I am no fan of Roman Catholicism from a political and doctrinal viewpoint, but I do understand their offense. Using an iconic image from their most sacred place of worship is in poor taste, you must agree.

    Don’t know that it is the place of our flagship state universtiy to be in the business of making condom use posters. I am sure there are other entities to do this kind of public service work.

    But to take a sacred work of art of the creation of man and use it to say God is giving man free reign to have whatever type of sex he wants with whomever is offensive to non Catholic Christians as well, even those that have no problem with birth control for married couples.

    By Bob LeBlah

    February 19, 2009 2:38 AM | Link to this

    Matt,

    I take it you are responding to my previous post.

    I did not say that advertising proper condom use in and of itself is an automatic condoning of sex with whomever you want, but using the particular image involved does say this. Using the image from the Sisteen Chapel with God handing Adam a condom does convey this message, IMO.

    I mean, there were no STDs around at creation, God then made Eve and told them to be frutiful and multiply, why in heck would he be handing out condoms at a moment like this?

    It is the use of the image that is offensive first and foremeost. Added to that is the Catholic stance against birth control in any situation, so it is a double smack against Catholic doctrine. I am not a Catholic, don’t hold to their beliefs about birth control, so that second phase isn’t offensive to me.

    The validity of condom instruction is not my point. Using an image that equates God with handing out condoms within the context of the creation story is offensive to me and it is embarassing that the flagship universtiy of my state would use this image in this material. I also question why it is UGAs place to make such an ad in the first place. Aren’t there other state agencies to handle this type of thing if such an advert is, in fact, needed?

    By Neal Summers

    February 19, 2009 3:16 AM | Link to this

    Bill Donahue is a tool of the conservative media and should be ridiculed and condemned on a daily basis.

    By Dave

    February 19, 2009 3:32 AM | Link to this

    Unprotected sex is fantastic! It creates unwanted children, spreads disease, and feels soooo good! Who needs a condom? If the Catholic Church had their way, condoms would be illegal in all countries of the world. Viva AIDS!

    By Techfan

    February 19, 2009 4:08 AM | Link to this

    This is absurd that it is news. Are we supposed to hide sex education from those who need it most?! If you think only teaching young folks not to have sex is good enough then you are really out of touch with the world. We need our youth to be smart about sex and use protection. Creating ads and whatnot that will appeal to a college student and make them pay attention is excellent.

    If this becomes anywhere near agenda of the media or politicians- it is a sad state of affairs. We have so many real problems these days- yet they are ignored for this crap.

    Shame on you Catholic League.

    By Coolguy05

    February 19, 2009 4:41 AM | Link to this

    You mean to tell me that the Catholic League is more worried about a Poster and not the serious issues of Catholic preist`s molesting kids? Sounds like a lot of double standards to me.

    By Coolguy05

    February 19, 2009 4:45 AM | Link to this

    You mean to tell me that the Catholic League is more worried about a Poster and not the serious issues of Catholic preist`s molesting kids? Sounds like a lot of double standards to me.

    By Lester

    February 19, 2009 6:21 AM | Link to this

    OZZFEST, YOU SAVED 40K B/C YOUR WIFE HAS BEEN DANCING AND SCREWING ME ON THE SIDE…

    By Lester

    February 19, 2009 6:40 AM | Link to this

    YOU ARE ALSO A WASTE OF GOOD SPERM…

    By Anne

    February 19, 2009 6:54 AM | Link to this

    I’m Catholic. I think everybody is blowing this out of proportion. The poster is basically stupid. Probably somebody thought this was hysterically funny and there was an inside joke that has backlashed. The designer could have thought of something else. I don’t find it offensive, I think it just looks downright stupid. It’s funny how every religious organization gets their panties in a wad over the ridiculous material, especially when it comes down to sex.

    By Anne

    February 19, 2009 6:55 AM | Link to this

    I’m Catholic. I think everybody is blowing this out of proportion. The poster is basically stupid. Probably somebody thought this was hysterically funny and there was an inside joke that has backlashed. The designer could have thought of something else. I don’t find it offensive, I think it just looks downright stupid. It’s funny how every religious organization gets their panties in a wad over the ridiculous material, especially when it comes down to sex.

    By Screw the catholics

    February 19, 2009 6:55 AM | Link to this

    Who gives a rats azz what a bunch of Catholics think? They are nothing more than a herd of self righteous baby factories. I’ll bet they are patting themselves on the back with the good job done by that brood sow Octo-mom in California. When they are not molesting alter boys they are wagging their finger at everyone else for what is “sinful” in their lives. Catholics are a dying breed and soon to be extinct.

    By YANKEEDAWG

    February 19, 2009 6:58 AM | Link to this

    The poster would have been more effective if it showed UGA passing a condom to the GEORGIA TECH YELLOW JACKET!!!WHO NEEDS MORE TECHIES

    By joey

    February 19, 2009 7:13 AM | Link to this

    Between the Roman Catholica, Islamists, Hindus, and throw in the Chinese, this planet’s human population will crash, probably in the near future. That crash will occur, because there will be way too many people for the planet’s resources. It won’t be pretty either. Starvation. War for vanishing resources. Dead cesspool oceans.

    Face it, the poor ignorant masses entertain themselves by having sex, without care of the consequences. They don’t care that they can’t provide for their children, and these religons encourage bringing even more bodies into the party.

    Where does it end? It ends with a desolate rock that used to be a blue planet. Keep popping those kids out and see what will happen.

    By boricua

    February 19, 2009 7:27 AM | Link to this

    Borat, OZZFEST is all of the above…and then some

    By Dawg Lover

    February 19, 2009 7:42 AM | Link to this

    What’s wrong with this world…the Catholic Church can molest our young children, get away with it, then speak out about a condom that helps to prevent the spread of STD’s?

    By cheerful

    February 19, 2009 7:45 AM | Link to this

    Qziefest First of all, IU do not believe you posess UGA season tickets.Nor do I beleive you have a MBA. Your writings reflect the level of a hamburger flipper at Macdonalds.

    By Dawg Lover

    February 19, 2009 7:52 AM | Link to this

    What’s wrong with this world…the Catholic Church can molest our young children, get away with it, then speak out about a condom that helps to prevent the spread of STD’s?

    By number15

    February 19, 2009 7:57 AM | Link to this

    OZZFEST, The bible warns us to avoid even the appearance of evil. “Apparently” evil is OOZing out of your pores. I take it you don’t believe in God, or else why would you spew such hatred. You appear to be the poster child for ethnocentrism. Remember, free speech does not mean freedom to offend! I know that John 3:16 has been watered down, however the fact remains, God loves us all. Even Catholics. Ooh, scary isnt it? Try reading Matthew 6:9, this will help you prioritize money, which seems to be your god!

    By Dawg Lover

    February 19, 2009 7:58 AM | Link to this

    What’s wrong with this world…the Catholic Church can molest our young children, get away with it, then speak out about a condom that helps to prevent the spread of STD’s?

    By CONFEDERATECATHOLIC

    February 19, 2009 8:01 AM | Link to this

    It’s always an amazing thing to me. Someone say’s “The Catholics”, and all of a sudden we become a “Cult”, a “Minority”, a “Pedophile”, “Extremists”, whatever. — 1.3 Billion people can’t all be wrong. Peace Be With You.

    By Georgie

    February 19, 2009 8:02 AM | Link to this

    You know its not just about religion, but society in general. Yes the poster can be offensive to some. Unfortuneatly we live in a time when everything is funny or has to be a joke. Filthy, disrespectful, or rude comments bring cheers from the masses as they enjoy someone or something being degraded. And DAwg Lover just so you know, the Catholic Church did not harm those families, persons in the church did. Just like bad teachers, police, counselors, and numerous other professions have caused terrible damage. Bad apples in the barrel make them all look bad. At least the Church was forthcoming enough to admit it when many other organizations are still looking the other way.

    By Rock Conner

    February 19, 2009 8:03 AM | Link to this

    The Catholic League is well within its rights to publicly object to this and any other expression by which its members are offended. The University of Georgia, however, in its rush to mea culpa, seems to have committed to avoid Christian controversy or offense at all cost. Universities by definition should be safe havens for exploration, advance & yes, controversy. This was not a good day for academic freedom in Georgia.

    By Zoomie

    February 19, 2009 8:04 AM | Link to this

    Much ado about nothing. The painting depicted in the poster is not just a religious icon to many, but a work of art to many more. As a work of art, there may not be another symbol more recognizable as “human touch” or “touch of life” than the portion of Michelangelo’s painting depicted. In that regard, it is highly attention-getting, portrays its meaning without the use of words, and clearly meets its intended purpose. Good poster. Just another day in the weak, morally defunct “United States of the Offended.”

    By Atlanta Native Too

    February 19, 2009 8:05 AM | Link to this

    Way to go Catholic church….lets not think of solving the problem of over population. Instead lets just let your priests get it on with little boys and control things that way.

    By pj

    February 19, 2009 8:08 AM | Link to this

    Thank you Dave! and yes, there were STDs around at creation; they just showed up later, OR , if you believe “God” made everything, god made STD’s too! and Condoms! and human brains that figured out how to control birth! even for married people! why in heck would “he” be handing out condoms at a moment like this? BECAUSE A “JUST” GOD EXPECTS US TO BE RESPONSIBLE!!! In addition, the painting is a human made depiction of a human conception of god - NOT GOD!! an image! If you really believe in god, god is omnicient, omnipotent, and everpresent, not an old man in a throne up in the sky; NO IMAGE CAN PORTRAY GOD! For its stance on birthcontrol, hence disease protection, the catholic religion is UNCONSIONABLE.
    Where is all the concern for unwanted, abused, homeless, starving children in this country killed, beaten raped, by their own parents. How about aid equal to africa in african american women 18-24? How about some “up in arms” attitudes toward real issues?

    By jsmooth

    February 19, 2009 8:09 AM | Link to this

    ok ok ok. lets just say that they could have chosen a different way to convey the same message. They could have. This really is not so much about Catholicism as it is the symbolism that is expressed in the depiction. We hold some symbols to be sacred and the desecration of those symbols SHOULD cause some reaction.

    While I am not a Catholic, I do believe that using Michaelangelo’s Painting from the Sistine Chapel was definitely the wrong decision. Use a Rock Star, or some actor, or something else.

    And then to all of you that believe there is something wrong with challenging the decisions of others, if there had not been a challenge to the direction that institutions in this country have gone, then we would still be in the 1950’s in our policies. This just happens to be a challenge by a religious organization to something that MANY hold dear.

    Don’t get mad. Let them EXCERCISE their freedom of speech as well!

    By Bob

    February 19, 2009 8:09 AM | Link to this

    I’m a Baptist - not a Catholic - and still find the poster in poor taste. Educate, but not in such an offensive manner. Thank God most of us ARE Christians. And the Constitution doesn’t grant freedom FROM religion. At least not yet… you never know what the next judge is going to do.

    By Zoomie

    February 19, 2009 8:11 AM | Link to this

    Much ado about nothing. The painting depicted in the poster is not just a religious icon to many, but a work of art to many more. As a work of art, there may not be another symbol more recognizable as “human touch” or “touch of life” than the portion of Michelangelo’s painting depicted. In that regard, it is highly attention-getting, portrays its meaning without the use of words, and clearly meets its intended purpose. Good poster. Just another day in the weak, morally defunct “United States of the Offended.”

    By JR

    February 19, 2009 8:14 AM | Link to this

    Screw, you do realize that something along the lines of 25% of the world’s population is Catholic. 21% or so Islam. Both of which, btw, in countries where “population control” isn’t exactly a priority. Instead of being “dying breeds soon to be extinct”, they are about to comprise the majority of the world’s population. Yes, I know, we’re American, who gives a s**t what the rest of the world thinks. Take a wild guess about which 2 religeons comprise the vast majority of our legal and illegal immigrants every year. I’ll give you a hint: it’s not atheist and agnostic.

    By Amen

    February 19, 2009 8:26 AM | Link to this

    People listen: This is not a issue. Life will continue long after seeds are planted and life comes forth. The important issue is that we did not sign Ken Griffey JR. It;s gonna get hotter then hell one day, or so they say…

    By Buzz G

    February 19, 2009 8:30 AM | Link to this

    Ozzfest…

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see your Catholic neighbors move to a better neighborhood because they have more class than to live in a neighborhood with low-class people like you.

    By me

    February 19, 2009 8:31 AM | Link to this

    what i find SO interesting the fact that everyone is so quick to judge the Catholic faith. yes, in some light, we have not had the best media, but that’s the media. they choose to pick the absolute worse face of everyone to show.

    Catholics have also had some bad public figures or even neighbors who live next door to you. but honestly people, not all Catholics are bad, rude, bible thumping, molesting people.

    and how dare anyone who is the first to judge Catholics. i am a sinner; i know i’m a sinner and when i die, i will be judged for those. so all the people who have a distaste for Catholics in this forum or who have a bad idea of what our faith is all about, are you telling me that you’ve never judged someone else and found out the opposite was true? or how about finding out that someone judged you without finding out who you were… how did that make you feel?

    everyone is so quick to jump the gun when it comes to religion. i will tell you though, i try very hard not to judge people. that’s not my place to. do i judge people automatically? of course. it’s human nature. i know i’m not perfect, which is why i said earlier that i’m a sinner. i’m not brainwashed and not a bible verse reciter; i don’t throw my faith and religion down people’s throats. however, i am knowledgeable about what my faith is and entails, and i choose to be Catholic. don’t knock my faith publicly because you don’t agree with it… i know for a fact that if something ‘Christian’ or whatever else faith everyone is on here, were depicted in a raunchy manner or something that you highly disagree with, you would all be up in arms.

    By Amen

    February 19, 2009 8:32 AM | Link to this

    People listen: This is not a issue. Life will continue long after seeds are planted and life comes forth. The important issue is that we did not sign Ken Griffey JR. It;s gonna get hotter then hell one day, or so they say…

    By big girth

    February 19, 2009 8:35 AM | Link to this

    Amen, Me and Malaki are going up to Nagshead with 3,000 of our closest friends, and Jimmy Carter says yes.

    By Patrick

    February 19, 2009 8:38 AM | Link to this

    A good friend of mine made that poster. She is dedicated to her work and is doing a hell of a lot more to prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancies than the Catholic church is. Perhaps if they cracked down on harder. They think this poster is bad but can’t keep their own clergy from molesting little boys. Priorities people!

    By K

    February 19, 2009 8:40 AM | Link to this

    Leave it to a bunch of liberals to ignore reality and offend everybody. There would be an uproar if the hands were black or showed a rabbi handing off a condom. Insidious undertow of discrimination against christians. I love it that UGA is busted and humiliated!

    By Alecia

    February 19, 2009 8:42 AM | Link to this

    Religious controversy aside. How much is this costing the university? UGA raised fees by $100 this semester due to a budget shortfall. This fee is on top of tuition and books. Student fees include the student health department and the distribution of free condoms and safe sex promotion. Also, more classes are being taught by teaching assistants instead of professors. Course selection has been reduced. Are these Queer Theory and Sex Ed. classes taught by professors or teaching assistants? Are these classes core to a major or some liberal arts elective? If these classes are part of a major I would like to know which one. Also, does this major prepare students for a vocation? If so, which vocation and what are the employment prospects? College is education for adults. By the time someone is old enough for college safe sex is not a matter of education, but rather a choice. Most of the student body is not being enriched by this program. The offended party should be the people that are paying for UGA tuition. Also, this university is partially funded by the state. More than $600 per semester in fees, that buys a lot of condoms.

    By K

    February 19, 2009 8:42 AM | Link to this

    Leave it to a bunch of liberals to ignore reality and offend everybody. There would be an uproar if the hands were black or showed a rabbi handing off a condom. Insidious undertow of discrimination against christians. I love it that UGA is busted and humiliated!

    By c.j.

    February 19, 2009 8:43 AM | Link to this

    Listen, the ad is completely inappropriate. Everyone knows it is based upon God/Adam’s portrayal. The Catholic League is the only one with balls to say something. It offends Jews as well, who adhere to the creation story and monotheism.

    By K

    February 19, 2009 8:44 AM | Link to this

    There would be an uproar if the hands were black or the graphic showed a rabbi handing off a condom.

    By me

    February 19, 2009 8:46 AM | Link to this

    what i find SO interesting the fact that everyone is so quick to judge the Catholic faith. yes, in some light, we have not had the best media, but that’s the media. they choose to pick the absolute worse face of everyone to show.

    Catholics have also had some bad public figures or even neighbors who live next door to you. but honestly people, not all Catholics are bad, rude, bible thumping, molesting people.

    and how dare anyone who is the first to judge Catholics. i am a sinner; i know i’m a sinner and when i die, i will be judged for those. so all the people who have a distaste for Catholics in this forum or who have a bad idea of what our faith is all about, are you telling me that you’ve never judged someone else and found out the opposite was true? or how about finding out that someone judged you without finding out who you were… how did that make you feel?

    everyone is so quick to jump the gun when it comes to religion. i will tell you though, i try very hard not to judge people. that’s not my place to. do i judge people automatically? of course. it’s human nature. i know i’m not perfect, which is why i said earlier that i’m a sinner. i’m not brainwashed and not a bible verse reciter; i don’t throw my faith and religion down people’s throats. however, i am knowledgeable about what my faith is and entails, and i choose to be Catholic. don’t knock my faith publicly because you don’t agree with it… i know for a fact that if something ‘Christian’ or whatever else faith everyone is on here, were depicted in a raunchy manner or something that you highly disagree with, you would all be up in arms.

    By Steve

    February 19, 2009 8:51 AM | Link to this

    OZFEST:

    Having multiple children, having a stay at home mom, and not being able to afford certain things has nothing to do with being Catholic. This is the lifestyle that many (including my family) have chosen. There are greater things in this life than driving the latest car and eating out a lot. Sounds like to me you’re just a big city liberal who doesn’t like kids or religion.

    By Becky

    February 19, 2009 8:55 AM | Link to this

    You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom and that means freedom for everyone—not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion,etc; but the world is full of idiots , and probably always will be..

    To many people get upset over things that we don’t even need to be upset over…If this ad stops STD’s & unwanted pregnancies, who cares..

    By CC

    February 19, 2009 8:59 AM | Link to this

    People always critisize what they know nothing about and it sounds like people don’t know much about the Catholic faith. Church and State are seperated so don’t bring the church into a public school ad.

    By Joey

    February 19, 2009 9:01 AM | Link to this

    PROUD CATHOLIC!!!! From these postings it is evident of the Godlessness of Atlanta and a reflection of today’s society as of a Whole.

    Greed and Envy has led to our current economic state chasing false idols.

    The attack on The One Church will not go unnotice nor will it be ignored. This country is founded on Christian principles and its reflected in our laws and instituttions across this nation.

    By One Voice

    February 19, 2009 9:03 AM | Link to this

    How could a public university dare to offend cult worshipers who are best known for child molestation? It’s unconscionable! Next they’ll be offending the last of the delusional, indoctrinated, uneducated white rednecks (read- conservatives). The horror! I can’t wait to hear the conservative fundamentalists (all of them) scream in protest as their numbers continue to dwindle and their influence all but disappears completely from government and society. Good riddance.

    By zzz

    February 19, 2009 9:04 AM | Link to this

    Ozzfest, you’re wrong. It’s not just the Catholics; all religion is dumb. There is no God. The burden of proof is clearly on those who will suspend all rationale for “faith” and I haven’t seen any proof yet. Here’s a simple truth: having sex may result in pregnancy, but if you use a condom, it probably won’t. People are not going to stop having sex, it’s programmed into all of our genetic code, so you might as well educate them. Get your heads out of the sand, people!

    By Mike

    February 19, 2009 9:10 AM | Link to this

    Since Vince and Barbara are catholic and have a big family, should we ask them what them their opinion?

    By Mike

    February 19, 2009 9:12 AM | Link to this

    Since Vince and Barbara are catholic and have a big family, should we ask them what their opinion is?

    By Edward

    February 19, 2009 9:12 AM | Link to this

    If it offends the self-righteous and ignorant masses of religionists, then it must be intelligent, logical, and effective. Religionists by definition are not logical and should be ridiculed at every opportunity lest they continue to infect our society with their ignorance.

    By number15

    February 19, 2009 9:13 AM | Link to this

    It is not a matter of doctrine, or faith. In fact, I am a Health Educator and encourage condom use if abstinence is not a realistic option for you. I am also a follower of Christ. I am Spiritual, and not religious. Sure, some will claim to see a contradiction, however we must do something that appeals to everyone, particularly our youth. When will we learn. Sure let us continue to encourage abstinence, while providing safe sex education and training. I had a student ask me the other day where do I think the AIDS VIRUS came from. I informed him that there were several schools of thought concerning the origin of HIV. Most importantly though, we need to know how to prevent the transmission of this horrible disease! Who cares who is firing the shots, how can I protect myself? The church needs to address this issue as well. Some pastors won’t allow the subject to be discussed on church grounds. If this attitude is permitted to persist, we are in deep trouble. We are sexual beings, not robots. Sexuality has to be discussed. This is not a Catholic concern, this is a human concern. Let us focus on the commonality, not what makes us different.

    By Will Jones

    February 19, 2009 9:14 AM | Link to this

    Please find my uncensored response, “Rome Destroying ‘Athens,’ Again, here. TIA

    By Reality

    February 19, 2009 9:15 AM | Link to this

    More people have been killed in the name of some god or another than for any other reason as far back and mankind has existed. We will either get over our superstitious belief in nonexistent supernatural beings or all perish once technological advances in weapons make it possible for any group of fanatical believers to destroy the earth. My bet is we are all going to die sooner than you think.

    By One Voice

    February 19, 2009 9:25 AM | Link to this

    number15, I don’t see the spiritual/not religious dichotomy as a contradiction; I see the “educator” vs Christian as a contradiction. Education is about passing along evidence and substantive support about the real world to the next generation. Religion is about passing on “truths” that have no logical evidence, reason, or substantiation to validate them, which is indoctrination, as well as an immoral act. But I guess that’s beyond the intellectual scope of a P.E. teacher.

    By onemangrouphug

    February 19, 2009 9:26 AM | Link to this

    Even Bristol Palin knows that abstinence as the only means of birth control and safe sex is dangerous. When will the Catholic Church get up to her intellect. Also, why is the Michelangelo painting considered sacred, because it was paid for by illegal taxes collected by the Pope at the time?

    By dave

    February 19, 2009 9:27 AM | Link to this

    This is pretty funny. What this should boil down to is the fact that Catholicism preaches abstinence. Which is factually stupid and does not work. Countless studies have shown that teaching safe sex practices has a MUCH more positive effect than abstinence. Kids are gonna be sexually active, why not educate them on the responsibilities that go along with sex, instead of the idea that you’re going to hell unless you wait til marriage.

    Abstinence has had like a 50 year run, and what has it done for us you ask? Teen pregnancy…up. Sexually transmitted diseases…through the roof. Don’t you people think it’s about time we accept the fact that maybe abstinence doesn’t work and safe sex is the answer?

    By Jay Dorsey

    February 19, 2009 9:29 AM | Link to this

    What would Noah Langdale think?

    By Jay Dorsey

    February 19, 2009 9:30 AM | Link to this

    What would Noah Langdale think?

    By wbgt

    February 19, 2009 9:36 AM | Link to this

    Intellect is a gift given by God to human beings. Use it and then there is no need for a patriarchal institution to determine ones decisions. Don’t use it and others, ie (the Church) will be very quick to control and manipulate your life and future. The real question is why don’t more people use their gifts? Integrity, kindness, compassion are not part of control.

    By wbgt

    February 19, 2009 9:38 AM | Link to this

    Intellect is a gift given by God to human beings. Use it and then there is no need for a patriarchal institution to determine ones decisions. Don’t use it and others, ie (the Church) will be very quick to control and manipulate your life and future. The real question is why don’t more people use their gifts? Integrity, kindness, compassion are not part of control.

    By wbgt

    February 19, 2009 9:39 AM | Link to this

    Intellect is a gift given by God to human beings. Use it and then there is no need for a patriarchal institution to determine ones decisions. Don’t use it and others, ie (the Church) will be very quick to control and manipulate your life and future. The real question is why don’t more people use their gifts? Integrity, kindness, compassion are not part of control.

    By JohnF

    February 19, 2009 9:44 AM | Link to this

    Catholics, or christians for that matter don’t own imagry! If UGA wants to use a well known image then it’s UGA’s business.

    Da Vinci’s descendents might be offended but no one else is entitled to.

    And comparing this image to one of your sister or mother is a false analogy.

    By Patrick G

    February 19, 2009 9:46 AM | Link to this

    OZZFEST, I was raised Catholic and I am not stupid. My mother who went to Catholic school for 12 years is also not stupid. She is actually a retired cardiologist. However, we (my entire family) all support the use of condoms to save lives and we are all pro-choice! To blanket all Catholics as stupid is an unfair and insensetive remark. Perhaps the ones complaining need to catch up with modern times but to label an enitre religon as stupid is just not fair. I give you kudos on your accomplishments and success, but think a bit more sensetivity would be appreciated!

    By No Name

    February 19, 2009 9:53 AM | Link to this

    These cults are annoying.

    By Lydiasdad

    February 19, 2009 10:08 AM | Link to this

    All these religion bashers are hilarious. Ever visited a hospital, received help from a charity, or attended a school? Those were started by Christian groups for the most part. Truth hurts, doesn’t it?

    By Pat

    February 19, 2009 10:18 AM | Link to this

    The Catholic League pretty much consists of that one windbag, Bill Donohue, and little else. He spends his time pouring through the minutae of culture, getting his panties into a twist over things he imagines “insult” Catholics, becoming most upset when the majority of Catholics don’t agree with his ridiculous, narrow fundamentalist views. Earth to Bill: Catholicism doesn’t “own” Michelangelo or other great art of the Rennaissance. That imagery belongs to the ages and the public domain. And guess what? Jesus never promised you you’d go through life never being “offended.” The early Christians braved lions - you whine about a poster. Nor did Jesus’ Great Commission license you to demand that your notions and sensibilities be respected. This was just a visual pun that used a great, familiar piece of art. It had nothing to do with you or the Church - and if you weren’t such a pathetically self involved navel-gazing twit, you’d know it. If you were really Christian, you’d be doing God’s work helping the poor, working for peace and showing Christ’s love in the world - not showcasing your own stupidity.

    By SaveOurRepublic

    February 19, 2009 10:32 AM | Link to this

    It’s all about the double-standard (as constantly pushed via the cultural Marxists). By this, it’s indeed okay to leverage Christianity for a “clever” ad…but there would indeed be an “uproar” if the same ad was sacrilegious towards Islam/Allah or Judaism. The message is it’s okay to knock or slight Christianity…just don’t DARE offend any other religions. For their stance…hats off the Catholic League (& I’m Baptist).

    By themadtrader

    February 19, 2009 10:34 AM | Link to this

    The only thing that riles me more than people who bend over backwards to be offended are the ones who bend over backwards not to offend them.

    By WOW

    February 19, 2009 10:38 AM | Link to this

    I once made a comment on talk radio that I could hijack the conversation one of two ways: mention gun control or mention religion. I succeeded with gun control, but this has convinced me that I should have taken a swipe at a religion.

    Discussions on religion almost invariably lead to emotional outbursts, this one is no exception. Rationality is quickly thrown to the wayside when someone feels they were attacked personally, this is clearly not an exception. I have no religion, I think the ad was effective. While the art is in a catholic owned building the image has been used in other ads many times. If it offends someone, I suggest they do not look at it. The catholic church does not own the image, it is in the public domain.

    Lets remember its purpose, STOP STDs and unwanted pregancy.

    By WOW

    February 19, 2009 10:42 AM | Link to this

    I once made a comment on talk radio that I could hijack the conversation one of two ways: mention gun control or mention religion. I succeeded with gun control, but this has convinced me that I should have taken a swipe at a religion.

    Discussions on religion almost invariably lead to emotional outbursts, this one is no exception. Rationality is quickly thrown to the wayside when someone feels they were attacked personally, this is clearly not an exception. I have no religion, I think the ad was effective. While the art is in a catholic owned building the image has been used in other ads many times. If it offends someone, I suggest they do not look at it. The catholic church does not own the image, it is in the public domain.

    Lets remember its purpose, STOP STDs and unwanted pregancy.

    By WOW

    February 19, 2009 10:46 AM | Link to this

    I once made a comment on talk radio that I could hijack the conversation one of two ways: mention gun control or mention religion. I succeeded with gun control, but this has convinced me that I should have taken a swipe at a religion.

    Discussions on religion almost invariably lead to emotional outbursts, this one is no exception. Rationality is quickly thrown to the wayside when someone feels they were attacked personally, this is clearly not an exception. I have no religion, I think the ad was effective. While the art is in a catholic owned building the image has been used in other ads many times. If it offends someone, I suggest they do not look at it. The catholic church does not own the image, it is in the public domain.

    Lets remember its purpose, STOP STDs and unwanted pregancy.

    By Jess

    February 19, 2009 10:51 AM | Link to this

    I am amazed at what I read here. This thread seems to be barely more than a bunch of people hating on each other. To each his/her own, really. I’m not going to call someone an “idiot” or a “moron” just because that person has a hateful personality and/or a viewpoint with which I strongly disagree. My only advice would be that you should spell- and grammar-check before you start slinging insults on people’s intelligence. I’ll just ignore the uber-conspiracy-theorist (portraying Bush Sr. as one of JFK’s assassins… really…).

    My viewpoint is that of a person who believes in the individual’s right to choose his/her own lifestyle as long as it does not infringe upon another’s human rights. I am also devoutly Christian - Presbyterian to be exact. What was my reaction to the poster? I rolled my eyes. It was immature and seems to have been designed to get a reaction. Why in the world would anyone use an icon of the very people who would be most offended by the content? And really, what other point is there to using that particular image in that particular context? I do consider safe sex to be any sexually active person’s social responsibility, but I wouldn’t use an anti-condom group’s image to promote condoms. That’s just pointless. Sure, they have the legal right to use any image that is public property, but that doesn’t make it any less ridiculous.

    By CJ

    February 19, 2009 11:00 AM | Link to this

    This is in bad taste and poor judgement. If there is anywhere to be politically correct, it is in college. As a recent grad of UGA, I am embarrassed for their lack of tact. You can teach/promote sex ed all you want, but please use some discretion in the marketing materials.

    By amurican

    February 19, 2009 11:26 AM | Link to this

    Ah..I would expect nothing else from Redneck Baptist Scum. God forbid if someone doesn’t want to pay a million taxpayer dollars on some marble effin Ten Commandments statue in a state house, but a desecration of God’s image? No problem.

    In fact, if anyone else other than Catholics had complained (especially if it was your favorite hillbilly pastor who yells every darn word of his sermon cuz apparently his mic doesnt work) it would be agreed that this was an outrage. By the way, if the POORtestants of the Southeast are so rich, how come they receive more federal tax dollars for public aid than any other region (per capita)?

    By amurican

    February 19, 2009 11:28 AM | Link to this

    Ah..I would expect nothing else from Redneck Baptist Scum. God forbid if someone doesn’t want to pay a million taxpayer dollars on some marble effin Ten Commandments statue in a state house, but a desecration of God’s image? No problem.

    In fact, if anyone else other than Catholics had complained (especially if it was your favorite hillbilly pastor who yells every darn word of his sermon cuz apparently his mic doesnt work) it would be agreed that this was an outrage. By the way, if the POORtestants of the Southeast are so rich, how come they receive more federal tax dollars for public aid than any other region (per capita)?

    By Cuz

    February 19, 2009 11:33 AM | Link to this

    Maybe they should have used a happy Buddha opening a condom. Now we know why he is happy.

    By The Nerd

    February 19, 2009 11:35 AM | Link to this

    S-E-X education should be taught IN SCHOOL while they are still preteens! And another thing, if you think that catholics should be morons and should be sent to hell due to the fact that they worship the Virgin Mary and NOT Jesus, THINK AGAIN!! The catholic faith, like all christan faiths worship Jesus and the Holy Trinity! So you people think twice before judging this or any other faiths!

    By jeff

    February 19, 2009 11:46 AM | Link to this

    What is a condom? People actually WEAR these things?

    By SaveOurRepublic

    February 19, 2009 11:47 AM | Link to this

    Will Jones @ 20:53 (2/17) - Although you make many valid points as to the Elite’s financing of the Nazis via Brown Brothers Harriman & Co.(& Bolsheviks I might add), the 9/11 false-flag, be clear that the Globalist Elite is comprised of many non-Catholic entities (Zionist/Rothschild, Warburgs, Schiff, WASP/Rockefeller, etc.). While the antichrist is prophesized to rise through a revised Rome, I’m not sure how specifically this ties into the Catholic Chruch. In any event, the key agenda for the Globalist Elite is a One World government & religion (for the antichrist’s rise).

    By VDog

    February 19, 2009 11:49 AM | Link to this

    Thanks a lot OZZFEST, now I have to sell my house on Maui as well as my house in Georgia

    By VDog

    February 19, 2009 11:55 AM | Link to this

    Thanks a lot OZZFEST, now I have to sell my home in Maui as well as Georgia and quit eating in cheep restaurants

    By Aunt Edith

    February 19, 2009 11:56 AM | Link to this

    POOR OZFEST!!! Sweety - you are an example of a “hypocritical liberal.” You demand respect for your life choices but don’t grant that respect to others! And as far as offending Catholics or Christians, as soon as they picture Mohammed or a Jewish Rabbi handing out condoms, then Christians are off-limits as well! Let’s all practice religious discrimination together! Shall we? BTW, I have a feeling OZFEST’s anger toward his neighbors is rooted in other issues. I wonder why he really hates them? Hmmm …

    By dude

    February 19, 2009 11:56 AM | Link to this

    3 kids equals a large family? Since when?

    By VDog

    February 19, 2009 12:07 PM | Link to this

    Thanks a lot OZZFEST, now I have to sell my home in Maui as well as Georgia and quit eating in cheep restaurants

    By Ginger

    February 19, 2009 12:11 PM | Link to this

    This is completely off-topic but a previous poster brought it up. I find it extremely ironic that after 8 years of W shredding the Constitution to suit his evil/moronic means, someone has the nerve to complain that the Democrats are going to do just that. I guess it’s okay when Republicans shred the Constitution, huh?

    I like the condom poster.

    By Tripp

    February 19, 2009 12:18 PM | Link to this

    If gods were real, I bet they’d side with the university on this one. Catholism always seems to set itself up for ridicule like this. Using a painting that represents the ‘god-given’ is quite appropriate for promoting a good cause like proper condom use.

    By USMerc

    February 19, 2009 12:18 PM | Link to this

    As an excommunicated ex catholic, and devout follower of Mithras, I can only laugh at the hubub that ensues every time a quasi-religious topic comes up. When are people going to understand that there IS no true religion? ALL religions have their good points and their bad points. And ALL of them are a crutch! Mithraism as well as all the rest…

    By joey

    February 19, 2009 12:24 PM | Link to this

    Many dumb people here that don’t know when they are being played by a troll. With a name like OZZFEST, it’s kind of a no-brainer, except for the morons.

    By Aunt Edith

    February 19, 2009 12:29 PM | Link to this

    Well Ginger - I am curious. Why do you like the poster? Is it because it uses a christian symbol? Is it because it is a work of Michaelangelo and it is beautiful? Is it because you believe that it upsets a “conservative” part of the population that may have voted for W who you obviously hate? I will remind you that the Catholic Church actually is very liberal when it comes to illegal immigrants, human rights, anti-death penalty, etc … There is room for everyone!!! Is it because you believe that people wanting to have sex will see this poster and be moved by its message and/or beauty causing these people to run to the store and purchase condoms?

    Because, quite frankly, I believe college students should know that condoms already exist because of the sex education they received in high school AND THE MEDIA (thank you again Bill Clinton). I believe it is a waste of paper and anti-green. How many trees had to die for that poster? And if COLLEGE STUDENTS need to be reminded to wear condoms, then they have much bigger issues!

    By ManOfTeal

    February 19, 2009 12:31 PM | Link to this

    Apparently the catholic church has solved all it’s other problems if it is THIS focused on such a trivial issue such as this.

    By backbaybass

    February 19, 2009 12:37 PM | Link to this

    What I love is that the Catholic League itself introduces the comparisons to murderous Islamic extremists. These things can be measured in degrees, I suppose.

    By ginger

    February 19, 2009 12:51 PM | Link to this

    Aunt Edith - I like the poster because it is clever and creative.

    And, Aunt Edith, I don’t hate anyone.

    Did I disappoint? You really sound like you are spoiling for a fight. LOL

    By twinkie1cat

    February 19, 2009 12:54 PM | Link to this

    The Catholic church has way too much influence in America, especially given that they are a minority religion. They have even learned to team up with the Southern Baptists, their mortal enemy (neither regards the other as Christian), to defeat quality political candidates who can help our nation out of this mess in order to elect someone who fits their narrow definintion of prolife. Catholics and Baptists would vote for a green parakeet if he recited “I’m Prolife”.

    Michaelangelo painted that painting. It does not belong to the Catholic church. It belongs to all in the world who love fine art. The Catholics would not even have wanted him since evidence is that he was gay.

    This is just a dying church trying to get attention. As for 25% of the world being Catholic, most of them were born into that religion. They did not make a conscious choice to become Catholic. While the devotees are very ardent in their faith, the majority don’t practice it, but the label can be an impediment to finding their path to God.

    By GInger

    February 19, 2009 12:58 PM | Link to this

    Cyclemania says “in years gone by the learned would realize that embracing the faith and being educated went hand in hand”

    There are so many things wrong with this statement, I don’t even know where to begin.

    But I’ll give it a go.

    I guess that’s why scientists were put to death for contradicting the official teachings of the church.

    Anyone else?

    By catholic4ever

    February 19, 2009 1:01 PM | Link to this

    WOW lots of Catholic haters!!! A few things Catholic are not a minority we are the majority religion. And to get you a little madder the one true religion… no one has the right to use the Michelangelo’s image of the hand of God giving life to Adam in that way. The painting was commissioned by us Catholic be creative make up your own. Know go say a few Hail Mary or to hell you shall go. ANNOSUS ROMA

    By sd

    February 19, 2009 1:02 PM | Link to this

    Like all advertising, the purpose is to grab someone’s attention. Thanks to the Catholic Leagues “outrage” this poster just got a lot more attention.

    Maybe, just maybe, someone will actually use a condom as a result. Its a long shot, but man woudl that be great.

    P.S. The Catholic Church’s aversion to contrceptions is directly contributing to AIDS in Africa.

    By gratefulnate

    February 19, 2009 1:04 PM | Link to this

    It’s just a poster. It’s not like the actual Michelangelo painting has been disgraced.
    In my mind, if the University personel who made the poster believe that’s what they need to do in order to catch the attention of students who are already absorbed in school, football, and, well, drinking and trying to get laid, then so be it. At least they are teaching them to be safe about it.

    By woodie

    February 19, 2009 1:14 PM | Link to this

    I agree with the church. It’s inappropriate use of a religious symbol. They should take the posters down and trash them.

    By rex

    February 19, 2009 1:22 PM | Link to this

    Blah, blah, blah. My opinion is better than yours. Blah, blah, blah.

    By Gandalf, the White!

    February 19, 2009 1:22 PM | Link to this

    So that’s why you send your daughters to UGA!

    By Aunt Edith

    February 19, 2009 1:25 PM | Link to this

    No Ginger - you didn’t disappoint. I anticipated a lame answer. How clever and creative is it to rip off another artist’s work? Can’t this UGA artist (and I use that term lightly) come up with something original? I guess not.

    I wonder if there is a copyright issue with using Michaelangelo’s work? I think it would be a riot if the Vatican sued UGA! If UGA lost the lawsuit, I wonder where UGA would cut the budget? The art department perhaps?

    By observer

    February 19, 2009 1:29 PM | Link to this

    SD, why do you attribute the AIDS epidemic in Africa to the church instead of the people choosing to have unprotected sex? If you think you aren’t supposed to use condoms and AIDS is widespread, then maybe the best choice is to simply abstain.

    By rtb100

    February 19, 2009 1:31 PM | Link to this

    I’m Catholic and have a masters degree from UGA. The poster isn’t particularly offensive to me, but I’m not sure why the university feels as though its their responsibility to educate grown ups on sexuality. As a taxpayer, I don’t want my $$$ spent on this.

    As far as Catholics having alot of kids, all I can say is because someone places a premium on family and old Honda accords as opposed to driving a really nice car like “OZZFEST” is their preorgative.

    All Americans should exercise personable responsibility, and having alot of kids is not necessarily a sign that people fail to hold themselves accountable. Having seven when you are on welfare is irresponsible. Catholics in general have nothing to do with that.

    I’m no saint, but the best way to not get an STD or unwanted pregnancy is exercise a little disipline and not have risky sex. That’s what the church has taught me. I don’t know why that’s so hard for people here and in Africa to understand.

    By rtb100

    February 19, 2009 1:37 PM | Link to this

    I’m Catholic and have a masters degree from UGA. The poster isn’t particularly offensive to me, but I’m not sure why the university feels as though its their responsibility to educate grown ups on sexuality. As a taxpayer, I don’t want my $$$ spent on this.

    As far as Catholics having alot of kids, all I can say is because someone places a premium on family and old Honda accords as opposed to driving a really nice car like “OZZFEST” is their preorgative.

    All Americans should exercise personable responsibility, and having alot of kids is not necessarily a sign that people fail to hold themselves accountable. Having seven when you are on welfare is irresponsible. Catholics in general have nothing to do with that.

    I’m no saint, but the best way to not get an STD or unwanted pregnancy is exercise a little disipline and not have risky sex. That’s what the church has taught me. I don’t know why that’s so hard for people here and in Africa to understand.

    By ManOfTeal

    February 19, 2009 1:40 PM | Link to this

    @observer

    If your answer is to simply tell people to abstain then you have a unrealistic expectation.

    By Tripp

    February 19, 2009 1:41 PM | Link to this

    QUOTE: “Cyclemania says “in years gone by the learned would realize that embracing the faith and being educated went hand in hand”

    I agree with you, Ginger, but the Church did do a good job of preserving what cultural knowledge and artifacts that still existed after they, themselves, destroyed everything else they didn’t like. Being educated went hand-in-hand with religion because the church made sure that the masses stayed ignorant, and that the only way you could get educated is by going along with what the church wanted you to know.

    If not for the influence of Christianity in governments during the Dark Ages, we’d be light years more advanced as a culture today (I don’t know if that’s good or bad…)

    The odd opinions of religious groups are interesting, but they should not be a consideration in making laws or rules in our free secular society.

    By REBARTOLO

    February 19, 2009 1:43 PM | Link to this

    OZZFEST, before you go calling people idiots, you might want to find a grammer book and learn about the usage of “I” versus “me” in the English language. Once you figure that one out, we can discuss your bigotry problem.

    By REBARTOLO

    February 19, 2009 1:47 PM | Link to this

    OZZFEST, before you go calling people idiots, you might want to find a grammer book and learn about the usage of “I” versus “me” in the English language. Once you figure that one out, we can discuss your bigotry problem.

    By Tripp

    February 19, 2009 1:48 PM | Link to this

    The Catholic Church, ironically, has been the biggest opponent to promoting masturbation, which is an excellent alternative to having sex at too young an age. We certainly made sure our kids new it was a healthy alternative. Church has no business trying to influence public policy in matters of sexual behavior, since it is so wrong in terms of science and ethics.

    By Bah dum bump

    February 19, 2009 1:50 PM | Link to this

    Q: Why couldn’t Jesus have been born at the University of Georgia? A: Can’t locate three wise men and a virgin.

    By observer

    February 19, 2009 1:51 PM | Link to this

    @ManOfTeal

    No, I’m not “telling” people to abstain, I’m just pointing out the fact that if they choose not to abstain then they bring the consequences upon themselves. Nobody else is to blame but those who chose to have unprotected sex. It is still a choice, and although you rarely hear it echoed in today’s “point the finger elsewhere” society, there is a third option other than “sex with protection” or “sex without protection”.

    By RaceCop

    February 19, 2009 2:04 PM | Link to this

    It is racist to bring up consequences, observer. Everyone knows that blacks are impacted by unprotected sex more than whites. It is racist to make them wear a jimmy and take responsiblity for thier sexual activity. Just like it is racist to draw pictures of monkeys now that Obama is President. The only people who are not racist are Obama, his wife and kids. Eric Holder, who thinks this country is full of cowards, and the left leaning memberss (read most) of the editorial staff of the AJC.

    By Aunt Edith

    February 19, 2009 2:06 PM | Link to this

    Observer - You make a great point - personal responsibility! Unfortunately, in our “blame someone else for my bad choices” society that we live in today, it is the rest of us who have to pay for these “consequences.” Why should my hard-earned tax dollars pay for someone else’s abortion when they CHOOSE to get drunk and have unprotected sex? Why do my personal religious beliefs have to be mocked and my state tax dollars spent to “remind” an adult to use a condom? If these students are too stupid to even know they should wear a condom during sex, kick them out of UGA and replace them with someone smart enough to know how to act responsibly. Problem solved.

    By Cynthia Tucker McKinney

    February 19, 2009 2:17 PM | Link to this

    I think that this “I am my brother’s keeper (unless it is Obama’s brother living in a hut, in squallor, in Africa on 12 bucks a year),” thing is going a bit far. The elite left that run this country has decreed that we are all responsible for the irresponsibility of all Americans.

    By CDG

    February 19, 2009 2:19 PM | Link to this

    Any effort made to prevent the spread of disease should be applauded. End of story.

    By ManOfTeal

    February 19, 2009 2:22 PM | Link to this

    @Aunt Edith

    Again I think having unrealistic expectations comes into play here. Remember the general populace of this country has the education of an 8th grader…..granted college students should be much smarter than an 8th grader…but maybe not perhaps in the inebriated state that many of us who went to college know all too well about.

    By sd

    February 19, 2009 2:22 PM | Link to this

    Observer,

    Sorry it took so long to reply.

    Maybe the word “directly” was misused in my original statement.

    The Catholic Church still teaches its members that birth control is immoral in Africa. This makes it more difficult for many to obtain condoms. Its like how Southern Baptists never recognize each other in the liquor store. Yeah they drink , but they condemn it. Just like Catholics, they have sex, but condoms are bad.

    Condoms DO prevent the spread of HIV. The Archbishop of Kenya in 2005 said that they do not and that not only that, but that condoms were an abomination. His words “INDIRECTLY” have led to cases of HIV.

    By pj

    February 19, 2009 2:22 PM | Link to this

    I keep hearing conservatives complaining about their tax dollars paying for abortions; I’ve never heard of that being offered anywhere. Abortions are expensive, which is one reason many people don’t have them even thought they’d like too. Would you be ok with free sterilization for men and women?

    By sd

    February 19, 2009 2:26 PM | Link to this

    Observer,

    Sorry it took so long to reply.

    Maybe the word “directly” was misused in my original statement.

    The Catholic Church still teaches its members that birth control is immoral in Africa. This makes it more difficult for many to obtain condoms. Its like how Southern Baptists never recognize each other in the liquor store. Yeah they drink , but they condemn it. Just like Catholics, they have sex, but condoms are bad.

    Condoms DO prevent the spread of HIV. The Archbishop of Kenya in 2005 said that they do not and that not only that, but that condoms were an abomination. His words “INDIRECTLY” have led to cases of HIV.

    To illustrate this another way, there are seven Catholic run AIDS clinics in Kenya. They do not distribute condoms and teach against them. This is equivalent to a fire station against fire extinguishers

    By Michael

    February 19, 2009 2:38 PM | Link to this

    Is there a reason that die-hard Christians get upset over stuff like this? I mean if you believe that God is “almighty,” why do you need to take up his battles? If there’s something truly wrong with that poster, wouldn’t a deity be much more equipped to do something than a bunch of rabble-rouser humans?

    I also must ask if Bill Donahue is disappointed that nobody was killed over a stinkin’ poster. Yikes.

    By Aunt Edith

    February 19, 2009 2:38 PM | Link to this

    ManOfTeal - You are right in that my expectations are maybe too high. We are all human and we all make mistakes - some innocent, some not. None of us want bad things to happen to anybody! I just do not understand why we can’t use every option, such as religion or abstaining, to help prevent these “consequences”.

    By Jeff

    February 19, 2009 2:50 PM | Link to this

    Hey Catholic League! Leave our public institutions alone! If you want to influence sexual behavior amongst the Catholic clan, then do so at Catholic universities. Separation of church and state, my friends.

    By Picasso

    February 19, 2009 2:52 PM | Link to this

    I really don’t care if you’re catholic or muslim. We are all free to practice whatever religion we want, and to view whatever art we want. The painting in question is such a well-known work that it is like a public person — it has no privacy protecttion and therefore should be excluded from folks going crazy whenever it’s used for promotional purposes.

    I understand people getting upset over issues like this, but at the same time our society has become such a mixed bag of messages that crying foul almost always falls on deaf ears. And as one previous writer mentioned, just about anything artistic upsets somebody’s sensibilities.

    The reaction of muslims truly is upsetting. Many have come to the west for a better way of life, but they are not willing to accept western culture. When unflattering art and/or incidents are reported in the middle east, many of the reactions are violent, with death sentences handed down by the clergy. Now muslims are requesting that the UN make it mandatory that no one or no nation descriminate against them.

    While that’s a fair request, I think it’s only fair that if UN nations support such a ban, they also make it mandatory for muslim nations to accept the practice of other religions, stop destorying art of other religions/cultures and allow their citizens to convert to other religions in muslim countries.

    In other words, freedom for muslims represents freedom for everyone, regardless of race, culture or creed.

    By brian 3000

    February 19, 2009 2:53 PM | Link to this

    pugleeze. someone tell the fundies to go worry about something important. this theocracy in georgia these days is a lil nuts anyways.

    By Matilda

    February 19, 2009 2:59 PM | Link to this

    MEN don’t like condoms. The POPE is a MAN in charge of maintaining global patriarchy. Ergo, THE POPE OPPOSES CONDOMS. It has nothing to do with “right” or “wrong.” It’s about MEN not wanting to impede their own selfish pleasure and of course, keeping women in their place. There’s no “higher power” in play with this self-centered dogma. It’s a ruse.

    By Jeff

    February 19, 2009 2:59 PM | Link to this

    catholic4ever—-whatever! You people scare me with your high and mighty power trips. “The one true religion”, blah blah blah. Your religion was created by man for man, and I might add for men that want to dress up in gowns and hats and fancy shoes and wave their hands and blows smoke and sprinkle “holy” water….the DRAMA of it all. I, quite frankly, can do without it.

    By Amen

    February 19, 2009 3:18 PM | Link to this

    You think that poster is offensive? Come on people, think. Has anyone seen the original cover of “Smell the Glove” by Spinal Tap? Now that is offensive…

    By LBBC

    February 19, 2009 3:20 PM | Link to this

    Go Dogs! Use condoms!

    By LBBC

    February 19, 2009 3:22 PM | Link to this

    Go Dogs! Use condoms!

    By LBBC

    February 19, 2009 3:24 PM | Link to this

    Go Dogs! Use condoms!

    By illolibro

    February 19, 2009 3:37 PM | Link to this

    This isn’t about whether one should listen to the Christian Church or whether one should practice safe sex or abstinance. This is simply a matter of being offensive to a faith group. For some reason, it is politically correct to offend Christians, but it is incorrect to offend Muslims. That is unfair, intellectually indefensible, and just plain dumb.

    Someone thought it was edgy or cool or clever to create a poster mocking an image that has meaning for many Christian believers—an well-kknown image that purports to represent the hand of God in creation. It is offensive to mock anyone’s religious faith. It is particularly offensive to use a religious image to promote activities which that particular faith considers wrong or sinful. Would these people have dared to promote a wine festival with a poster of Muhammad offering a glass of wine to a college student? This would have never happened, and probably the most offensive thing here is the idea that it’s O.K to insult Catholics or Christians (I am not Catholic, but I am a Christian who finds the poster offensive,) while insisting on the utmost in sensitivity toward any other religious faith.

    The poster is stupid, tasteless, and juvenile. Printing and distributing it was a sad lapse in judgment on the part of an institution of higher learning. I expect better of my Alma Mater.

    By the way, Ozzfest, you should have written, “…eat dinner out with my wife and ME,” not “…with my wife and I.” You wouldn’t say, “…eat dinner out with I,” would you?

    By johnjohn

    February 19, 2009 3:39 PM | Link to this

    All of you need to get After-Lives. However, a compromise might be reached. How about, say, using a picture of Bristol Palin?

    By Jack

    February 19, 2009 3:40 PM | Link to this

    To all you Catholic haters posting here. The issue is simply copyright infringement.

    Multi-national corporations that sell environment destroying latex products for you to wrap your weenies with have no right to use the image. The image is well known, but not un-owned. These criminal corporations have bought your mind and souls so you cannot even see obvious crimes being committed.

    You are pathetic losers. All of you.

    By Will Jones

    February 19, 2009 3:45 PM | Link to this

    SaveOurRepublic February 19, 2009 11:47 AM

    My view has been shaped by my upbringing as an independent, patriotic American. A Distinguished Cadet of West Point’s Class of 1974, coming up from the ranks with a Regular Army appointment after having enlisted in 1968, I see my former classmate Petraeus rewarded for his profound incompetence (leaving unguarded and unexploded the munitions used for IEDs which killed thousands of our countrymen and women in Iraq on the treasonous mission he supports, ordered by draft-dodging closet-queen-in-chief Bush cheated into the WH by only the Roman Catholics on the Supreme Court) and know that is a reflection of institutional corruption continuing from the unadjudicated treason of those who came before and killed President Kennedy and Dr. King to keep us in Vietnam.

    Whig Historical Interpretation fully pertains today. The Founders’ perspective was as true then as it is now: the history of the world unfolds as a result of the conflict between Rome (who believe they “own” the world) and everyone else.

    The “Italian Solution” is literary allusion to assassination for good reason. By simply bringing to justice the proven, known individuals who have assasssinated our leaders, committed 9/11 to send us to false war, and expropriate their entire faction, America will be well on the way to restoring Righteousness and Whig Utopian philosophy to secure our posterity.

    Herbert Butterfield’s book was simply running interference for the most recent major proof of Whig Theory: Adolph Hitler - a transparently obvious catspaw for Rome, and the Holocaust - the same ritual persecution against those who refuse to conform to Rome (like a clever UGA graphic artist), historically practiced, and extolled in the catechism, with “sword and flame,” enhanced with the “advantages” of mass production, the Industrial and Chemical Revolutions, and the financial support of the American Roman Catholic collection plate funneled through Vatican-banker Rockfeller and Prescott Bush.

    Certainly the ostensibly (false) Jewish Rothschilds, also Vatican-bankers, helped in Hitler’s rise to power, but the family member who was released unharmed from a few hours of Nazi confinement was a PAPAL baron - Phillipe Rothschild.

    Their Warburg relations helped create the Federal Reserve Bank fraud doing Rome’s work no less so than did altarboys William Techumseh Sherman, Ollie North, and Timothy McVeigh.

    Look at the “Big Picture”: caesaropapism has been human civilization’s “default” configuration since the dawn of time. Rome’s “ten horns of the seventh head of The Beast” are the families of Europe descended of caesars and popes - openly known as Rome’s “Black Aristocracy” - which have been living on the same hills, in the same castles for two and three thousand years. Their papal fraternity, the Knights of Malta, is accessible to “achievement oriented” Roman Catholics around the world…like “Episcopalian” Prescott Bush.

    While many of Rome’s agents don’t openly claim to be Roman Catholic, like Lee Atwater who converted on his deathbed, Newt Gingrich, William Rehnquist, and the Baptist Rockefellers - many of whom are now practicing Roman Catholics, the center core of “the real Anti-Christ,” “the engine for enslaving mankind,” what Jews call Amalek, is the Roman Empire/Roman Chuch (Hobbes, “Leviathan”): the same money flow, the same families, the same enslavement, the same perversion.

    Prophecy was fulfilled in the founding of the United States of America (Isaiah and numerous other cultures’ foretold dreams and myths - “Golden Mountain” “The Far Thule” et al, establishing Individual Sovereignty, as the rule supreme, governed only by Truth and Justice.

    Tory evil - monarchist and papist - was rooted out by a unified American People guided by the Whig ideals enshrined in Our Creed, the Mottoes. We must simply do it again.

    Occam’s Razor, my friend. America’s Founders read Th. Paine’s “Common Sense” and finally understood that “Monarchy is the papacy of government.” Good enough to spark that Revolution, good enough today…it is simply the undeniable truth.

    “Anti-Christ” is the “world system.” It’s “tracks” socially, genealogically, economically, politically, and religiously are as plain a day…the “Gordian Knot” and its mass of confusion must simply be “cut” by the American People, once and for all.

    Death for Treason

    P.S. Promoting illegal immigration isn’t “liberal” on the part of the Roman Catholic Church - outlined in their “National Pastoral Plan for Hispanic Ministry” - it is applied Fascism to destroy Liberal America…an affront to the Constitution and the People on behalf of the power and control the perverts and pedophiles, Mammon-worshippers, hypocrites and philistines of Rome’s “engine for enslaving mankind” require of the rest of the world.

    Will Jones @ 20:53 (2/17) - Although you make many valid points as to the Elite’s financing of the Nazis via Brown Brothers Harriman & Co.(& Bolsheviks I might add), the 9/11 false-flag, be clear that the Globalist Elite is comprised of many non-Catholic entities (Zionist/Rothschild, Warburgs, Schiff, WASP/Rockefeller, etc.). While the antichrist is prophesized to rise through a revised Rome, I’m not sure how specifically this ties into the Catholic Chruch. In any event, the key agenda for the Globalist Elite is a One World government & religion (for the antichrist’s rise).

    By What?

    February 19, 2009 3:51 PM | Link to this

    Bold: $40 DOLLARS FOR YOUR UGA TICKETS OZZFEST? YOU CAN PAY TO GO TO MAUI EVERY YEAR, BUT YOU WANT TO SIT IN THE 600 SECTION? I DON’T EVEN THINK $40 DOLLARS PAYS FOR YOU TO GET IN TO THE BIG GAMES. THAT GUY IS RIPPING YOU OFF… YOU DON’T HAVE TO PAY TO WATCH THE GAME FROM THE ROOF OF REED HALL.

    By What?

    February 19, 2009 3:52 PM | Link to this

    Bold: $40 DOLLARS FOR YOUR UGA TICKETS OZZFEST? YOU CAN PAY TO GO TO MAUI EVERY YEAR, BUT YOU WANT TO SIT IN THE 600 SECTION? I DON’T EVEN THINK $40 DOLLARS PAYS FOR YOU TO GET IN TO THE BIG GAMES. THAT GUY IS RIPPING YOU OFF… YOU DON’T HAVE TO PAY TO WATCH THE GAME FROM THE ROOF OF REED HALL.

    By Unprotected Sex Rules

    February 19, 2009 3:53 PM | Link to this

    Bold: $40 DOLLARS FOR YOUR UGA TICKETS OZZFEST? YOU CAN PAY TO GO TO MAUI EVERY YEAR, BUT YOU WANT TO SIT IN THE 600 SECTION? I DON’T EVEN THINK $40 DOLLARS PAYS FOR YOU TO GET IN TO THE BIG GAMES. THAT GUY IS RIPPING YOU OFF… YOU DON’T HAVE TO PAY TO WATCH THE GAME FROM THE ROOF OF REED HALL.

    By DEWWHEW

    February 19, 2009 3:54 PM | Link to this

    DAWGS - GREAT !!! Catholics - GREAT !!! Condoms - GREAT !!!

    Even though Churches still cling to the mistaken notion that sex itself is a sinful pursuit (it’s really just a tool to keep people feeling guilty so they’ll keep coming back), Catholics and other churches do MUCH good in this world when humanitarian concerns are at the forefront…As for sex and condoms, let’s hope that that they continue to go together more and more…because non-marital sex ain’t gonna stop….best educate people about safety……

    By lightered knot

    February 19, 2009 4:22 PM | Link to this

    I wish that woman that had the 8 kids at one time had used 2 condoms. One for sex and one on her doctor’s head.

    By observer

    February 19, 2009 4:23 PM | Link to this

    SD

    I hear your stance, but even using the term “indirectly” seems to let the guilty off the hook. I’m aware that the church teaches that condoms are bad. But I’m also aware that the church teaches that sex outside of marriage is bad too. So in your example of folks spreading disease because condoms aren’t available, that ain’t the church’s fault either directly or indirectly because the folks didn’t follow the full teachings of that church. The church doesn’t say “have sex whenever you want with whomever you want, just don’t use protection”, but instead says “have sex with only your spouse, and use natural methods of birth control instead of artificial”. Well, if folks followed the full teaching instead of neglecting the spouse part, then the epidemic would be contained because it would spread no further than their spouse. So if an individual follows the church’s advice on one point, but neglects the church’s advice on another, then the church can’t be blamed even indirectly - it still falls back on that individual’s decision to have unprotected sex.

    To counter two of your points, I agree that condoms prevent the spread of HIV. But so does abstinence. Your argument appears to disregard abstinence as an option (although perhaps a tougher option than the others).

    “To illustrate this another way, there are seven Catholic run AIDS clinics in Kenya. They do not distribute condoms and teach against them. This is equivalent to a fire station against fire extinguishers” - No, it’s not. It’s like a fire station that is against a certain type of fire extinguisher, but is all for another type of fire extinguisher. Here again, you seem to neglect the fact that abstinence is an actual option, however difficult it may be.

    Now I’m not trying to come out like some virgin abstinence promoter for everyone or “holier than though” - I’m just like anybody else and know how hard abstinence can be. I’m just trying to point out that consequences ultimately come from the choices we make, and having unprotected sex is still a choice - and an especially large choice when the risk of disease is high.

    By observer

    February 19, 2009 4:28 PM | Link to this

    “holier than thou”, for the record. Can’t type fast!

    By SaveOurRepublic

    February 19, 2009 4:30 PM | Link to this

    Will Jones @ 15:45 - Thank you for the insight sir. I’m sure you’re aware that your fellow Cadet/USMA grad Petraeus is also a CFR member, as are a litany of arch-Neocons & (Globalist coin “flipside”) Marxist Dems. In my estimation, JFK was also “neutralized” for his stance against the Central Banking Cartel (*ie - his signature of Executive Order No. 11110).

    While I’ve read allusions to the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) being the Biblical “W******* of Babylon”, I’ve not researched it enough to have a substantiated opinion. I don’t advocate many of the RCC’s theological positions & non-Biblical, man-created practices, but I can’t say that they’re the WoB. *BTW, there are also false prophets amongst the Evangelicals as well…ie - CFR member, Rick Warren.

    In my estimation, it is a collection of Globalist Elite who comprise the NWO…primarily top membership/leadership of the CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group, Club of Rome & Bohemian Grove Club. The “agenda” is set via these agents of antichrist to ready the world for his rise to power. If you’ve not read it, I highly recommend Dr.Stan Monteith’s book “Brotherhood of Darkness” (an outstanding expose on the Globalist Elite’s history & agenda).

    http://www.infowars.com

    By Will Jones

    February 19, 2009 5:27 PM | Link to this

    Petraeus was a classmate…not a “fellow” grad. Read a fifth-generation grad, a direct lineal descendant of Jefferson, Lucian Truscott IV’s “Dress Gray,” to know what became apparent to me as an innocent and prompted my “transfer” to UVa.

    Those who know truthfully say it is easier to stay at West Point than to leave.

    It is not a coicidence that the Congressmen and Senators who supply the screening process for academy appointments have often been caught up in mass discoveries of page pedophilia and perversion.

    Corrupt officers willing to follow traitors, like those who killed John Kennedy to send us to die for the pope in Vietnam, and committed 9/11 to send us to Afghanistan and Iraq, are, at core, failures as men “playing soldier.” To them Duty, Honor, Country is meaningless.

    All Cadets are sworn to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, but the CFR has a big presence there cultivating politically ambitious adherents.

    Rockefeller started the CFR and it is merely a “bi-partisan” place for the false-elite to meet to get the word from Roman Catholic Big Oil and the false money Fed system, created by Rockefeller (Vatican’s correspondent banker) and Rome’s other Fifth Column traitors, like Henry Ford - one of Hitler’s greatest admirers. Clare Booth Luce, a Dame of Malta, and her husband’s “Time” magazine made Hitler “Man of the Year.”

    The same magazine “inadvertently” reversed frames of the Zapruder film to make it falsely appear as though President Kennedy was shot from the back, though the Parkland Hospital staff informed the world after Nixon, GHW Bush and the Knight of Malta-led CIA killed him six weeks after he ordered us out of Vietnam, that he was shot from the front.

    Petraeus married the “political general” superintendent’s daughter and plays politics showing his willingness to be “no man” and kiss up to the likes of scum Junior Bush on a traitorous mission getting our troops killed shedding innocent blood…no righteousness, integrity or patriotism in that…but rank and medals galore in service to evil.

    Rome is the center of “the real Anti-Christ.” Hitler and Nazism was Rome’s. Rockefeller and Bush financed Hitler and the Holocaust, doing Rome’s bidding. Rome, the Roman Catholic CIA, and Joe McCarthy’s “Red Scare” covered for the traitors who created Hitler on Rome’s behalf and sent us to die in Korea fighting for the French Roman Catholic elite trying to oppress that country.

    The Bilderberg Group was started by “Prince” Bernard (whose wife’s family owns Shell Oil), the head NaziSS officer in the Netherlands during WWII. TTheir goal was to create the United States of Europe, fulfilled in the EU, as envisioned by Hitler in his autobiography, “Mein Kampf.” Today the EU is upwards of eighty percent Roman Catholic.

    Rome is able to control America with only 33% of the population…a percentage increasing continuously through their promotion of illegal immigration.

    The English “royal family” went along with Bush after he did 9/11 because they own British Petroleum.

    Bush tried to effect a coup against Chavez in Venezuela because he kicked out the Roman Catholic ruling “elite” and the representatives of Roman Catholic Big Oil, a combine formed on the Rockfeller Oil Cartel built in 1870’s Cleveland on unredressed murder and arson.

    NB Forgive the lack of editing. I’m on a library computer about to shut down.

    Jeffersonian Exegesis

    By SaveOurRepublic

    February 19, 2009 6:32 PM | Link to this

    Will Jones @ 17:27 - You no doubt have a wide knowledge of the Globalist Elite/”Kingmakers” & the various agendas. I’ve not come across the amount of RCC influence in my study of Globalism, but I’m always researching to further my understanding. I’ll take a look into the link you provided. Thanks for trying to educated others on the Globalist Elite & their influence. Have a good evening sir & may God save our quickly fading Constitutional Republic! http://www.jbs.org

    By i live in athens

    February 19, 2009 7:52 PM | Link to this

    The UGA administration cares more about kowtowing to a Christian religious group than the health of its students? Big surprise. When will this state wake up to Adams and his right wing political aspirations?

    By Will Jones

    February 20, 2009 5:28 AM | Link to this

    Amen, sir. The JBS doesn’t cover America’s Founders’ Whig Historical Interpretation because they fit neatly into Rome’s multi-pronged network of propaganda, distraction, defense and control. McManus, a JBS head is Roman Catholic…as has been every top officer in that org, or Roman agent/dupe.

    “Anti-Communism,” the JBS’ big issue comes straight out of the papal bull “Divini Redemptoris,” which, giving absolution in advance for any “communist” killed (made “equivalent” with “Jew/Bolshevist,” by bestseller “Mein Kampf”), triggered Kristallnacht and the Holocaust, Korea and Vietnam.

    Th. Paine and America’s Whig Founders identified “king and pope” as the source of earthly evil with the Atlantic Ocean and 150 years in isolation to germinate an “Exceptional” socio-political consciousness born of Radical Protestantism, Freemasonry, and rugged Individualism.

    Building on The Light from the West, America’s founding, Marx identified “tsar and pope” but developed his philosophy in an area where one man “owned” all of many countries and all those living in them: “Monarchy is the popery of goverment,” Paine.

    There is but One G-d. America is covenanted as the New Israel: founded by Gentiles, a haven for the Jews, into which all nations of the world flow. No other country fits those qualifications outlined in Isaiah. The original concept for our Great Seal was Moses leading the Israelites across the Re(e)d Sea.

    Death and full expropriation for Treason committed by the known Anti-Christ’s Fifth Column (Amalek) will assure that Our Creed is fulfilled and The People and The Republic restored.

    Crimes committed, crimes punished. One just Law for all.

    Misprision of Treason by a known false-elite, practiced over generations subverting The Constitution and the Currency is appropriately addressed through an enacted Jubilee - all debts expunged and constitutional money reimplemented - and removal of their ill-gotten gains, the “profit” of treason, back to the Sovereign People.

    E Pluribus Unum - those who violate the Creed with a pattern of treason must be punished. Rockefeller, Rome, DuPont, Bush, and their Anti-Christ Fifth Column minions must be “relieved” of their assets and “status,” and for some, their very lives, that America prosper once more by “Annuit Coeptis” under only Truth and Righteousness. Rome’s agents “profited” but they failed to “prophet,” so must be “recycled” away from elevation in America. Noblesse Oblige, and they blew it as servants of Satan.

    Nothing to it but to do it.

    G-d save America, we pray…together. Tories not joining in that prayer: out…or to the Tory Oak.

    O beautiful for patriot dream That sees beyond the years Thine alabaster cities gleam Undimmed by human tears! America! America! God shed his grace on thee And crown thy good with brotherhood From sea to shining sea!

    Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand Between their loved home and the war’s desolation! Blest with victory and peace, may the heav’n rescued land Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation. Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, And this be our motto: “In God is our trust.” And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

    Our fathers’ God, to thee, author of liberty, to thee we sing; long may our land be bright with freedom’s holy light; protect us by thy might, great God, our King.

    Let’s all sing the same credal “tune” together, again. Those who don’t wish to sing, who wish merely to be left alone as decent neighbors and countrymen, so be it. Let America’s truth benefit them. Those who wish to sing a different “tune” and rule over Americans as if they were booted and spurred and the rest of us with saddles on our backs…let us throw them where they belong: on the dirt or in the grave.

    Death for Treason G-d Bless America

    By ip

    February 20, 2009 10:23 AM | Link to this

    The creation painting is owned by the Catholic Church as it is painted on their ceiling. They do have a right to limit its use and the way that it is used. And as it is agaisnt Church Doctrine to have sex before marriage and use birth control, they are right to be angry about the posters at UGA being used in the singles dorm. UGA has a right of course to educate students, they just need to use their own artwork.

    By Lawdy Lawdy

    February 20, 2009 10:53 AM | Link to this

    Reviewing Catholic Church Doctrine is quite perplexing regarding pedophiliac priests. I guess the Church has a right to not practice what it preaches……

    By Jones, Will

    February 20, 2009 1:05 PM | Link to this

    Will Jones’s parents should have used a condom or practiced some sort of birth control, for the man is NUTS!!!!!

    By Will Jones

    February 21, 2009 7:17 PM | Link to this

    I’m telling the truth on the Roman Anti-Christ, also revealed by America’s Whig Founder Thomas Jefferson, which has brought so much evil and destruction on Our Land, and all “you” got is ad hominem? You are a traitor and a fool.

    By Jones, Will

    February 21, 2009 8:54 PM | Link to this

    Hey, Will Jones. Bush, Pope, Rome, Rockefeller noses, Bush did not do 9/11. BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA.

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