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Holster that gun bill, says Cagle

Just got out of a meeting that Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle held with the state Capitol press corps.

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The lieutenant governor was emphatic about one issue in particular. A bill to expand the public areas in which a permitted, concealed weapon can be carried will be going nowhere.

State Sen. Mitch Seabaugh (R-Sharpsburg) has been working on the measure to revamp the state code so as to permit concealed weapons licensees to pack heat in churches and on university campuses.

“Let me be very clear. I have no appetite for it,” Cagle said.

Last year, the Legislature finally passed a watered-down bill that permitted employees to keep guns in cars parked on company lots, pushed by the National Rifle Association. But two years of battle have taken their toll.

Cagle wants a respite. “We dealt with this issue last year. I think people should be content with where we are,” he said.

The lieutenant governor became a bit flustered when Shannon McCaffrey, the Associated Press reporter, asked Cagle whether he supported an effort by state Rep. Jack Murphy (R-Cumming) to help close the state’s budget deficit by taxing strip club patrons.

Murphy would like to funnel the money to child abuse programs and other services for young people who are caught up in child prostitution or other forms of sexual exploitation.

Cagle stammered, then wondered out loud — in jest, possibly — what people actually do at these establishments.

Bible study, reporters assured him.

Ultimately, Cagle said he’d oppose a strip club tax, on the grounds that he’s not in favor of any tax increases — anywhere.

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By GoOX

January 5, 2009 1:27 PM | Link to this

WOW - Cagle starts the new year with a first - an actual position on something.

Why’s he need a strip club - he has staff…

By GaLiberal

January 5, 2009 1:45 PM | Link to this

Well, Cagel will get coal from the gun nuts at the NRA when he runs for governor. Yes, he’s right about the public being fed up with the NRA and a bunch of red-neck, racist Rethuglicons pushing their pro-gun agenda. It’s disturbing enough they believe it’s ok to take a gun onto MARTA, into city and state parks, and airports. Now they want to allow people who can’t enter a bar to carry a gun to class. Are these people simply clueless or just plain stupid.

Of course, this isn’t about protection or 2nd Amendment and that those specious lies the Rethuglicons keep telling. It’s about who lines their campaign war chest. The NRA funds their campaign so they do the NRA’s bidding so the NRA will fund their campaign. It’s call pay for play. But the Rethuglicons are very capable liars and they do it with a straight face, too.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And pushing fewer restrictions on guns is living proof.

By Greg

January 5, 2009 1:53 PM | Link to this

It’s sad that our elected officials will stand in the way of common sense legislation which would allow law abiding citizens to provide their own protection. As it stands now, criminals ignore the laws and the lawful are stuck with either becoming criminals in order to protect themselves or remaining vulnerable. I’ll give you an example of how strange our laws are. A middle aged person decides to return to school. That person owns a firearm, has a permit, and keeps the weapon in their vehicle. If that person attends a state university, that person commits a felony by merely having that weapon in their vehicle on campus. Officials such as Cagle need to do the right thing and make corrections to our laws.

By Greg

January 5, 2009 1:56 PM | Link to this

It’s sad that our elected officials will stand in the way of common sense legislation which would allow law abiding citizens to provide their own protection. As it stands now, criminals ignore the laws and the lawful are stuck with either becoming criminals in order to protect themselves or remaining vulnerable. I’ll give you an example of how strange our laws are. A middle aged person decides to return to school. That person owns a firearm, has a permit, and keeps the weapon in their vehicle. If that person attends a state university, that person commits a felony by merely having that weapon in their vehicle on campus. Officials such as Cagle need to do the right thing and make corrections to our laws.

By Greg

January 5, 2009 1:57 PM | Link to this

It’s sad that our elected officials will stand in the way of common sense legislation which would allow law abiding citizens to provide their own protection. As it stands now, criminals ignore the laws and the lawful are stuck with either becoming criminals in order to protect themselves or remaining vulnerable. I’ll give you an example of how strange our laws are. A middle aged person decides to return to school. That person owns a firearm, has a permit, and keeps the weapon in their vehicle. If that person attends a state university, that person commits a felony by merely having that weapon in their vehicle on campus. Officials such as Cagle need to do the right thing and make corrections to our laws.

By J.D.

January 5, 2009 2:07 PM | Link to this

Wow GaLiberal… lighten up before you have a stroke! You go tossing around that moniker “Rethuglicons” as much as the other guy who says “Democraps”.

Having a differing opinion is one thing, but these name-calling frenzies are actually quite boring to us middle-of-the-roaders. Not to mention it hurts your side of the discussion more than it helps.

By Hank

January 5, 2009 2:07 PM | Link to this

Mr. Cagle needs to re-think his position… There are many Georgia Firearms License holders, We have a long memory and we do vote.

By Joe

January 5, 2009 2:13 PM | Link to this

To GALiberal: If you’re not old enough to enter a bar, you’re not old enough to carry a Concealed Weapons Permit. So if an underage person carries a concealed weapon (either on their person or in a vehicle) they are breaking the law, regardless of whether they are in class or not. This will not change.

By Ed Stone

January 5, 2009 2:19 PM | Link to this

Georgia is the only state in the nation with a “public gathering” law, but Lt. Gov. Cagle “does not have the appetite” to repeal a law that threatens us with jail for bearing arms at a public gathering? It is well past time to repeal this Jim Crow law, and no, we are not “content” to be threatened with jail for another two years. Recognizing our liberty does not cost the state budget anything.

Any of the 50,000 people with a California firearms license may carry on a school campus in California, but doing so in Georgia is a felony punishable by 10 years in prison.

California is one of 41 states in which it is not a crime to carry a firearm during a worship service, but in Georgia even leaving a pistol in your glovebox in the parking lot can earn you a full year in jail.

But, hey, you “dealt with it last year,” right?

Then why does Georgia still have Jim Crow gun control laws on the books in 2009?

By Jeff

January 5, 2009 2:25 PM | Link to this

I find it very disappointing Cagle will say something like this without even seeing what the new bill or what the Senate’s findings are.

By Jeff

January 5, 2009 2:28 PM | Link to this

I find it very disappointing Cagle will say something like this without even seeing what the new bill or what the Senate’s findings are.

By Jeff

January 5, 2009 2:29 PM | Link to this

I find it very disappointing Cagle will say something like this without even seeing what the new bill or what the Senate’s findings are.

By The Truth Comes Out

January 5, 2009 2:38 PM | Link to this

I wrote to Lt. Governor Cagle before the right to carry in parks and Marta legislation was passed and he wrote back assuring me that he was for the passage of that bill and a member in good standing with the NRA. Therefore he would push for gun owners rights whenever the issue came up. I wonder now if he actually felt that way or was just being an untruthful politician to appease me.

The jury is still out but I want to believe that he was truthful in his letter. By the way GaLiberal if students were allowed to carry weapons and protect themselves there would have been a lot less people die at Virginia Tech recently. I know you will come up with some Lame excuse but facts are facts its just that liberals cant see the facts through their kool aid induced haze. If you are ever on a Marta train when some thug tries to kill you I bet you will be grateful that a law abiding concealed weapons permit holder is there to protect you.

By GA_Voter

January 5, 2009 2:42 PM | Link to this

Next time you see the name Cagle on the ballot, just remember that he is against cleaning up laws that are not understood by citizens, police officers or judges. He has “no appetite” for passing a law that has been written in response to both law enforcement officers and law abiding citizens. Cagle doesn’t want to deal with common sense legislation that results from multiple open study committees that solicited input from both sides of the debate.

Just remember, that Cagle wants law abiding citizens to “be content with where we are”, instead of restoring the rights of the state’s most law abiding (and most active voting) citizens.

By The Bald Monk

January 5, 2009 2:52 PM | Link to this

The Lt. Gov. is sadly misinformed and gravely mistaken on the public gathering restrictions. The public gathering law is a Jim Crow era law and should be abolished.

By Beilinda Sue

January 5, 2009 3:01 PM | Link to this

Doens’t much sound like Mr. Cagle wants to be Govenor very badly. Women get attacked at Church and pro sporting events all the time and he wants us to remain defenless. I’ll vote for someone else.

By mathar1

January 5, 2009 3:09 PM | Link to this

Well if he has no stomach for the fight to be allowed to exercise a constitutional right then maybe we have no stomach for his gubernatorial fight. We carry guns AND we vote. Remember that Mr Cagle..that is not a threat simply a promise.

By Belinda Sue

January 5, 2009 3:11 PM | Link to this

It doesn’t look like Mr. Cagle wants to be Govenor very bad. Women get attacked at Church and at pro sporting events all the time. He wants us to remain defenseless. I’ll vote for someone else.

By Make Mine 45

January 5, 2009 3:14 PM | Link to this

Hmm, I know who I won’t be voting for when the time comes. Funny how true colors show up eventually… I guess gun rights people should just shut up now and go away, how dare we ask our elected officials to DO THEIR JOBs.

By GaLiberal

January 5, 2009 3:14 PM | Link to this

**By J.D.

Having a differing opinion is one thing, but these name-calling frenzies are actually quite boring to us middle-of-the-roaders. Not to mention it hurts your side of the discussion more than it helps.**

You can’t have a civil discussion with people who are thugs and con men. You have to expose them for what they really are. The Rethuglicons are great at lying and conning people into believing them and people need to understand that’s what it’s about. Just look at the crap lie by The Truth Comes Out, an NRA kissass if there ever was one.

By the way GaLiberal if students were allowed to carry weapons and protect themselves there would have been a lot less people die at Virginia Tech recently. I know you will come up with some Lame excuse but facts are facts its just that liberals cant see the facts through their kool aid induced haze.

Really? Where are the facts to back up this statement? Were the students trained in how to respond to hostage situations? How do this Rethuglicon bootlicker know carrying guns would have resulted in less lives lost? He doesn’t, he just parrots back the Rethuglicon lie which somehow makes it true. It’s really just a big con job and this moron fell for the con.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And The Truth Comes Out repeating Rethuglicon lies is living proof.

By GaLiberal

January 5, 2009 3:17 PM | Link to this

**By J.D.

Having a differing opinion is one thing, but these name-calling frenzies are actually quite boring to us middle-of-the-roaders. Not to mention it hurts your side of the discussion more than it helps.**

You can’t have a civil discussion with people who are thugs and con men. You have to expose them for what they really are. The Rethuglicons are great at lying and conning people into believing them and people need to understand that’s what it’s about. Just look at the crap lie by The Truth Comes Out, an NRA kissass if there ever was one.

By the way GaLiberal if students were allowed to carry weapons and protect themselves there would have been a lot less people die at Virginia Tech recently. I know you will come up with some Lame excuse but facts are facts its just that liberals cant see the facts through their kool aid induced haze.

Really? Where are the facts to back up this statement? Were the students trained in how to respond to hostage situations? How do this Rethuglicon bootlicker know carrying guns would have resulted in less lives lost? He doesn’t, he just parrots back the Rethuglicon lie which somehow makes it true. It’s really just a big con job and this moron fell for the con.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And The Truth Comes Out repeating Rethuglicon lies is living proof.

By Reality Check

January 5, 2009 3:20 PM | Link to this

You folks are pathetic!!!! We Vote too!, We Just want to carry our guns to church and school! Stop crying! Everyone knows that the gun lobby won’t be satisfied until there is a AK 47 in every duffel bag. Get over yourselves. I carry my 40 cal in all the places that the law allows, and i feel secure in that. I don’t know why you don’t.?

By BC

January 5, 2009 3:31 PM | Link to this

I am an NRA Endowment member, GA Sport Shooting Assoc. member, Georgia Carry.org member and 100% legal gun owner and recreational shooter with a Georgia Concealed Weapons Permit. I pay my fair share of taxes and expect my rights to be protected by my elected officials.

I’m not particularly interested in Mr. Cagle’s appetite. Mine is to fiercely protect my 2nd Amendment rights - which were recently soundly confimed and reiterated by the UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.

I don’t think we have dealt with this issue sufficiently when people like Mr. DeCosta and Mayor Franklin align themselves with people like Mayor Blumberg and his war on gun rights.

So, there you are no name calling - all facts - my opinion.

By Al C.

January 5, 2009 3:34 PM | Link to this

While I am a Democrat and often embrace what are seen as more liberal views, I support gun rights for law abiding citizens.

I think that we should look at facts, rather than succumb to emotions. I believe that from all that I have read (and that is a lot), statistics and studies demonstrate that lawful permitting carrying gun owners pose a nearly negligible crime risk in all states where studies have been performed.

Last year, when the new law in Georgia was passed that allowed people to carry concealed weapons in more places (for example, in state parks, on MARTA and in certain eating establishments where alcohol is served), gun control advocates predicted a wave of gun violence as a result. Well, we have had many months now of experience. HAS there been any statistical increase of gun-related violence on MARTA, parks or in eating establishments precipitated by permit owners?

I am not aware of anything of the sort. As such, the dire predictions of disaster if permit holders are allowed to carry firearms in more places carry little if any weight.

By Belinda Sue

January 5, 2009 3:37 PM | Link to this

It doesn’t look like Mr. Cagle wants to be governor very bad. Women get attacked at Church and sporting events all the time and he wants us to remain defenseless. I’ll vote for someone else.

By jk

January 5, 2009 3:37 PM | Link to this

I think people should be content with where we are,” he said.

Then Lt Gov Cagle should also be content with where he is… not in the Governor’s mansion. He won’t get my vote.

By Rick

January 5, 2009 3:48 PM | Link to this

I didnt realize that criminals abided by the laws which now restrict we law abiding gun owners. When the day comes and the government (both state and national) can guarantee that we will be free of criminals (oh, which by the way will never happen given their track records at rehabilitation and/or punishment) that can threaten me and my family then, and only then will I even consider not carrying in public places.. although I will still insist on having my license and the option to carry if I so desire!

By Shamalama

January 5, 2009 3:48 PM | Link to this

“How do this Rethuglicon bootlicker know carrying guns would have resulted in less lives lost? He doesn’t, he just parrots back the Rethuglicon lie which somehow makes it true. It’s really just a big con job and this moron fell for the con.”

Ahhh, this must be the very same GaLiberal that won world records with his keen debating skills.

As for VA Tech, it took cops 5-10 minutes to even respond to the massacre. If even one student had been armed, and willing to defend, the carnage could have been over within 30 seconds. 5-10 minutes is a terribly long time to want for the cops while some crazy is emptying magazine upon magazine at you and your classmates.

This is why both my wife and my daughter are armed wherever they go. They do not intend to be raped or stabbed for 5-10 minutes before the first cop can show up.

By Rick

January 5, 2009 3:49 PM | Link to this

I didnt realize that criminals abided by the laws which now restrict we law abiding gun owners. When the day comes and the government (both state and national) can guarantee that we will be free of criminals (oh, which by the way will never happen given their track records at rehabilitation and/or punishment) that can threaten me and my family then, and only then will I even consider not carrying in public places.. although I will still insist on having my license and the option to carry if I so desire!

By Ben

January 5, 2009 3:50 PM | Link to this

If Cagle doesn’t want to fight for his constituents legal rights, then so be it but I’d advise him not to obfuscate, filibuster or obstruct those in the legislature who do.

He seems to be turning into one of those “country club” Republicans that you find in Maine, Rhode Island or Massachusetts; he’d better realize soon that the people didn’t elect him to fight the easy battles and run out the clock.

If he doesn’t want to lead then he should get out of the way.

By Aaron Burr V. Mexico

January 5, 2009 3:51 PM | Link to this

I think “Rethuglicons” are the worst thing that ever happened to this country (I call them something much less polite personally)….

But if you don’t see the fact that “An Armed Society is a Polite Society” then you’re just not seeing the facts as they are. I should have the right to defend myself wherever I am unless I’m banned by a private property owner, and even then I should be able to keep in in the trunk of my car.

Because the police might be able to solve crimes after the fact, but last time I checked, they cannot fly faster than a speeding bullet.

Now if only we can get more people who believe in Universal Affordable Health Care, not letting children starve to death and yet at the same time don’t expect us to all be helpless little bunny rabbits because Uncle Government will protect us then we might get somewhere.

By Hootie!!!

January 5, 2009 3:54 PM | Link to this

Al C., very well put! I too remember all those posts predicting bloodbaths when “rednecks” in bars decide they don’t like the way someone looks at them. And shootouts in restaurants. And cops getting shot because someone put their gun next to their seat rather than in their glove box. I do not believe I have heard anything on the news about any of these things happening. Hmmm, maybe people that take a half day (at least) off work to spend $50 to be fingerprinted and have their backgrounds thoroughly checked really don’t pack heat and go out looking for a fight… Who’da thunk it?

By GoOX

January 5, 2009 4:11 PM | Link to this

Also heard in the same press conference - Cagle has no plan for Transportation - wants some other group to provide him the plan.

By Big Tuna

January 5, 2009 4:12 PM | Link to this

Since Dunwoody traces its’ legislative existence to the mafia, I bet you can safely own a Howitzer there:

Consultant Oliver Porter, who helped guide incorporation efforts …in Dunwoody, “But then,” he added, “the Sandy Springs mafia came through for us on reconsideration.”

By Steve W. Cook

January 5, 2009 4:54 PM | Link to this

The lieutenant governor was emphatic about one issue in particular. A bill to expand the public areas in which a permitted, concealed weapon can be carried will be going nowhere.

Sorry Casey but you are wrong…. the law abiding citizens of the fine state of Georgia are just warming up with regard to restoration of our firearms rights. This state has been taking our rights away since the Jim Crow era laws were instituted. We have only begun to seek the rights that have been stripped from us.

We will stand vigilant and watch as the fine representatives under the Gold Dome reinstate what has been taken from us and we will also stand steadfast on our beliefs in the Constitution and Bill of Rights “as written” and not with interpretation.

Sincerely A Voter in the fine State of Georgia SW Cook Ball Ground

By EJ

January 5, 2009 5:01 PM | Link to this

Casey is Clueless

The laws need to be clarified. One only has to read about dozens of law abiding, gun carrying, CCW permitted citizens of Georgia being arrested for exercising their Constitutional rights to understand this.

Had this been the 1960’s and we were discussing Civil Rights legislation, his resignation would have been called for.

Perhaps Cagle needs to give his career a rest. If he does not address this issue, we will address his political future,and make that his major issue.

Proud Member of Georgia Carry

By latter_day_hippie

January 5, 2009 5:04 PM | Link to this

As usual, emotions surrounding the “guns” issue are running high and the merits of the proposed legislation are not being considered.

The intent of the proposed legislation is not to ‘increase where guns may be carried’ but to reform current laws that are so confusing and so convoluted that not even the police officers, district attorneys and judges charged with upholding it can say when the laws have been violated.

Yes, the prohibition against legal carry in some locations may be lifted if the proposed legislation is passed. However, where private property is concerned (including churches and private universities) the property owners will always have the right to determine whether or how firearms may be legally carried on their property.

I also will remind everyone that guns are being illegally carried in those locations already, by people we generally refer to as “criminals.” Quashing the proposed legislation will not change that.

Finally, I respectfully request that the Lieutenant Governor in particular consider the merits of this issue and the actual legislation before determining his position on so complex and so important an issue.

By EJ

January 5, 2009 5:08 PM | Link to this

Casey is Clueless

The laws need to be clarified. One only has to read about dozens of law abiding, gun carrying, CCW permitted citizens of Georgia being arrested for exercising their Constitutional rights to understand this.

Had this been the 1960’s and we were discussing Civil Rights legislation, his resignation would have been called for.

Perhaps Cagle needs to give his career a rest. If he does not address this issue, we will address his political future,and make that his major issue.

Proud Member of Georgia Carry

By The Truth Comes Out

January 5, 2009 5:26 PM | Link to this

GaLiberal you can call me names all you want but that does not hide the truth. I dont understand why you want to call me a liar when what you said about the Virginia Tech Killings hold no verifiable truth. I will however guarantee you had I or millions of other concealed permit holders been there and able to carry a weapon legally that punk would have been shot before he could have killed as many people as he did. No brag just FACT! I think it may be time for you to take another kool aid break and get ready for your next pitiful salvo of name calling. LOL! This will be my last response to you as I normally do not engage in conversation with people who participate in such childish behavior.

By The Truth Comes Out

January 5, 2009 5:40 PM | Link to this

Out of 39 comments on this issue it seems that 38 do not agree with Cagles response in this matter with one…well there is always that 1. I hope Cagle reads the blogs.

By Steve W. Cook

January 5, 2009 5:48 PM | Link to this

The lieutenant governor was emphatic about one issue in particular. A bill to expand the public areas in which a permitted, concealed weapon can be carried will be going nowhere.

Sorry Casey but you are wrong…. the law abiding citizens of the fine state of Georgia are just warming up with regard to restoration of our firearms rights. This state has been taking our rights away since the Jim Crow era laws were instituted. We have only begun to seek the rights that have been stripped from us.

We will stand vigilant and watch as the fine representatives under the Gold Dome reinstate what has been taken from us and we will also stand steadfast on our beliefs in the Constitution and Bill of Rights “as written” and not with interpretation.

A Voter in the fine State of Georgia……SW Cook Ball Ground

By Greg

January 5, 2009 7:43 PM | Link to this

Casey are you reading this? It seems a lot of folks are telling you that you are absolutely wrong. You might want to reconsider your position Mr. Lt Gov. aka wannabe next Gov.

By Greg

January 5, 2009 7:45 PM | Link to this

Casey, are you reading this? It seems a lot of folks are telling you that you are absolutely wrong. You might want to reconsider your position Mr. Lt Gov. aka wannabe next Gov.

By mls

January 5, 2009 9:02 PM | Link to this

i am certain that the other prospective candidates to succeed gov. purdue understand that to become the next governor they will need the votes of the 2Am. community to get elected .they are a large part of the base of the republican party.I will not support a rino and i’m sure that i am not alone on this issue . . Proud GCO . Member

By CM

January 6, 2009 8:44 AM | Link to this

Gun laws don’t apply to felons and psychos. They don’t care about legalities. They only care about hurting others.

We ask to have our firearms rights RESTORED in order to “level the playing field” and defend ourselves from harm.

When seconds count, the police are usually about ten minutes away, assuming the dispatcher sends them to the correct location and a phone call can be made.

Anywhere there are people, ANYWHERE, there is the potential for some nutcase (who doesn’t care about the law) to threaten others or to start shooting. Gun laws provide these nutcases with some assurance that they will be unopposed. Let’s stop enabling them.

The Georgia Constitution affirms the Second Amendment but adds a qualifier that the State legislature may prescribe the manner in which arms may be borne. This speaks to HOW they may be carried, not WHERE.

We ask to have our rights restored. People are dying.

By CM

January 6, 2009 8:50 AM | Link to this

Gun laws don’t apply to felons and psychos. They don’t care about legalities. They only care about hurting others.

We ask to have our firearms rights RESTORED in order to “level the playing field” and defend ourselves from harm.

When seconds count, the police are usually about ten minutes away, assuming the dispatcher sends them to the correct location and a phone call can be made.

Anywhere there are people, ANYWHERE, there is the potential for some nutcase (who doesn’t care about the law) to threaten others or to start shooting. Gun laws provide these nutcases with some assurance that they will be unopposed. Let’s stop enabling them.

The Georgia Constitution affirms the Second Amendment but adds a qualifier that the State legislature may prescribe the manner in which arms may be borne. This speaks to HOW they may be carried, not WHERE.

We ask to have our rights restored. People are dying.

By CM

January 6, 2009 8:57 AM | Link to this

Gun laws don’t apply to felons and psychos. They don’t care about legalities. They only care about hurting others.

We ask to have our firearms rights RESTORED in order to “level the playing field” and defend ourselves from harm.

When seconds count, the police are usually about ten minutes away, assuming the dispatcher sends them to the correct location and a phone call can be made.

Anywhere there are people, ANYWHERE, there is the potential for some nutcase (who doesn’t care about the law) to threaten others or to start shooting. Gun laws provide these nutcases with some assurance that they will be unopposed. Let’s stop enabling them.

The Georgia Constitution affirms the Second Amendment but adds a qualifier that the State legislature may prescribe the manner in which arms may be borne. This speaks to HOW they may be carried, not WHERE.

We ask to have our rights restored. People are dying.

By CM

January 6, 2009 9:02 AM | Link to this

Gun laws don’t apply to felons and psychos. They don’t care about legalities. They only care about hurting others.

We ask to have our firearms rights RESTORED in order to “level the playing field” and defend ourselves from harm.

When seconds count, the police are usually about ten minutes away, assuming the dispatcher sends them to the correct location and a phone call can be made.

Anywhere there are people, ANYWHERE, there is the potential for some nutcase (who doesn’t care about the law) to threaten others or to start shooting. Gun laws provide these nutcases with some assurance that they will be unopposed. Let’s stop enabling them.

The Georgia Constitution affirms the Second Amendment but adds a qualifier that the State legislature may prescribe the manner in which arms may be borne. This speaks to HOW they may be carried, not WHERE.

We ask to have our rights restored. People are dying.

By CM

January 6, 2009 9:04 AM | Link to this

Gun laws don’t apply to felons and psychos. They don’t care about legalities. They only care about hurting others.

We ask to have our firearms rights RESTORED in order to “level the playing field” and defend ourselves from harm.

When seconds count, the police are usually about ten minutes away, assuming the dispatcher sends them to the correct location and a phone call can be made.

Anywhere there are people, ANYWHERE, there is the potential for some nutcase (who doesn’t care about the law) to threaten others or to start shooting. Gun laws provide these nutcases with some assurance that they will be unopposed. Let’s stop enabling them.

The Georgia Constitution affirms the Second Amendment but adds a qualifier that the State legislature may prescribe the manner in which arms may be borne. This speaks to HOW they may be carried, not WHERE.

We ask to have our rights restored. People are dying.

By A.Johnson

January 6, 2009 9:15 AM | Link to this

My family and I have long been staunch supporters of the Lt. Gov. and his office but this turn of events has us very worried. We understand he has to make tough decisions each day and that those decisions will not set well with all the citizens he took an oath to serve, but we would much like to see him change his position on and return to fully supporting the 2nd Amendment and reversing the “Jim Crow” law this physical year; 2009. As a lawful, community serving, permitted gun owner who practices his rights to carry in the state for the purpose of selfpreservation, I encouraged the good Lt. Gov. to look at this issue from a constitutional front, a civil rights front and to take this subject head on with an iron stomache appetite for bringing the law inline with the liberties each law abiding citizen should be afforded.

By CM

January 6, 2009 9:16 AM | Link to this

Gun laws don’t apply to felons and psychos. They don’t care about legalities. They only care about hurting others.

We ask to have our firearms rights RESTORED in order to “level the playing field” and defend ourselves from harm.

When seconds count, the police are usually about ten minutes away, assuming the dispatcher sends them to the correct location and a phone call can be made.

Anywhere there are people, ANYWHERE, there is the potential for some nutcase (who doesn’t care about the law) to threaten others or to start shooting. Gun laws provide these nutcases with some assurance that they will be unopposed. Let’s stop enabling them.

The Georgia Constitution affirms the Second Amendment but adds a qualifier that the State legislature may prescribe the manner in which arms may be borne. This speaks to HOW they may be carried, not WHERE.

We ask to have our rights restored. People are dying.

By CM

January 6, 2009 9:22 AM | Link to this

Sorry for the multiple posts. I kept getting “Server Not Found” so I tried again.

Sorry about that.

By CountryGun

January 6, 2009 10:00 AM | Link to this

As it stands, Georgia law’s prescription to amend the manner of carry, is the only addition to our Second Amendment liberty. If city and local ordinances are preempted by state law, why isn’t state law preempted by the Constitution?

For several years, I worked for the State Prison system. I (as a conservative Democrat) enjoyed denying privileges to real “thugs” and I even got many of their sentences extended. As a result, these “thugs” made very real threats to kill me or harm my family, following their paroles under our weak laws. They didn’t say they would abide by any laws that forbid them from shooting me at church in any other public gathering.

As a law abiding citizen, I have the right to protect myself and family 24/7, and in any place (respecting the rights of private property owners who don’t need my business) Is the Lt. Gov. Cagle going to wake up to the fact that he was elected to defend good citizens and not the thugs?

By jack burton

January 6, 2009 12:55 PM | Link to this

The state has absolutely NO ROLE to play in telling congregants if they can or cannot carry guns within their church.

http://hubpages.com/hub/CCW-and-Churches-Does-the-state-have-a-role-to-play

By CountryGun

January 6, 2009 2:34 PM | Link to this

Well done, Jack! I hope all of this is in an envelope to Cagle!

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