Political Insider

By Ann Cox Wants To See You In Chambers

November 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Q: What is inherently wrong with this sentence to begin with:

“Mark DeMoss, the Christian public relations specialist based in Duluth, makes something of a splash this morning with a brief essay on the lessons of the ’08 campaign.”

A: That PR people based in Duluth, Georgia have half a clue about anything to begin with.

LMAO!!!

By Ann Cox Wants To See You In Chambers

November 7, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

Q: What is inherently wrong with this sentence to begin with:

“Mark DeMoss, the Christian public relations specialist based in Duluth, makes something of a splash this morning with a brief essay on the lessons of the ’08 campaign.”

A: That PR people based in Duluth, Georgia have half a clue about anything to begin with.

LMAO!!!

By Ann Cox Wants To See You In Chambers

November 7, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Can you redact one of the duplicates above? Your commenting interface is as horrendous as relying on PR people in Duluth for thought leadership. Although I must admit, I enjoyed reading DeMoss’ essay. The Evangie crowd is going to need all the thought-leadership re-evaluation they can muster-up now anyway. Maybe if they shut-up for once with all their bellowing preaching and dogmatic hollerin’, and put their ears to the winds of change, they could actually learn something. Doubtful that’ll happen anytime soon. By 2012? Hard to say…

By Sarcasticus

November 7, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Sounds kind of like voting for/against a candidate based on their skin color—“they are/aren’t one of us.”

By Sarcasticus

November 7, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Sounds kind of like voting for/against a candidate based on their skin color—“they are/aren’t one of us.”

By Ann Cox Wants To See You In Chambers

November 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

And one more thing while we’re on topic… if the “Christian”-politico crowd removed the knives from each others’ backs, they might stem the flow of blood, stop foaming at the mouth, and roll-up their sleeves and get to work alongside the rest of the nation.

THAT sure ain’t gonna happen anytime soon! See this article (Warning: contains swear words) “Sarah Palin Trashers Are Mostly Ex-Romney People”:

http://wonkette.com/404240/sarah-palin-trashers-are-mostly-ex-romney-peoplele

By MB

November 7, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Mormonism is a cult and if a person can be deceived to follow a false religion such as this, then what else can he / she be persuaded to follow.

By mark m

November 7, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Huckabee was so popular because he was smooth, smart, calm, kind, experienced, loved in his own state, and FairTax. The FairTax, by the way, is the new acid test for basic intelligence. Rommy ain’t for it…why not?

By tls

November 7, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

People vote using many criteria and as such evaluating a candidate based on religious values along with other things is okay. Having religious values does not preclude someone from being competent, qualified, smart, articulate or well-educated. Religion, morals, philosophies, theories and ethics will all influence a candidate’s values approach to political issues.

By Joe

November 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Our Republican Party is extremely fractured right now and will remain so until 1) the far right conservative Christians learn that the rest of the party is more concerned about true leadership on conservative principles than they are about what church someone attends; OR 2) the party decides to take a step back toward the middle and pick moderate conservatives back up.

I am afraid that neither will happen soon and we will wander in the wilderness for many years to come. As a party we need to learn some tolerance and realize that we can disagree with one’s theology and still find common ground that we can support them on.

By JB

November 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

To MB who says Mormonism is a cult and false religion and its members shouldn’t be trusted, I would submit that all religious people believe their religion to be the one true religion and all others to be errant.

The Jews believe Christians have been mislead and Christians believe Muslims worship a false god. My Baptist grandmother believed Catholics to be a cult. And it’s important to remember that to an outsider many of the traditions and beliefs of all religions can seem a bit strange, even the traditions of the so-called “mainstream” religions in America are odd to the uninitiated.

It’s funny that many who supported Sarah Palin didn’t find her religion’s propensity for speaking-in-tongues to be strange but are quick to call Mormons’ belief in magic underwear to be sheer lunacy.

The point is that are so many religions in the World and denominations within Christianity that Americans will never find anyone electable if we insist on only leaders who share OUR exact religious beliefs.

Instead, we should look for candidates who are intelligent, have the right temperament and qualifications to be President and who share our values but not necessarily our exact religion.

By Jason

November 7, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Great post JB - We as Americans should look to those that are strong leaders. Those that can lay out a clear vision for the future of our country. Should they have a strong value system - of course, but not voting for someone because they don’t share your specific belief system is shallow minded in my opinion.

Many conservatives like to reference the Constitution and challenge our current leaders to uphold the vision our founding fathers put forth. We should remember that those framers had a variety of religious beliefs - including many Atheists, Agnostics and Deists.

By Randy

November 7, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

I hope Sarah Palin does run against Romney in 2012 Republican primaries so she can be solidly beat and dumped into the history books without further debate.

Talk Radio will continue to hyper her, but unless she goes into intensive learning mode and gets out of her “its all about me mode” then she will be completely trashed on her own accord even with Rush Limbaugh trying to blow air into her lungs.

By Ben

November 7, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

The hubris of this statement “Mormonism is a cult and if a person can be deceived to follow a false religion such as this, then what else can he / she be persuaded to follow” is breath taking. Sadly, it is not hard to guess the religious beliefs of the preson who said that. Why is it that normally only people of this belief make statements like this about Latter-day Saints? And, how is it that they do not know that many of their own beliefs appear silly to people outside of their faith—but most people have the decency and lack of hubris to not make fun of their silly beliefs. For example, assuming the poster of this comment is from an evangelical background, guess what—the democrats DO make fun of your beliefs in the same way you make fun of LDS beliefs. On the other hand, the LDS people are your allies. Look at the proposition 8 in California. Who was your ally in this cause? What is wrong with you that you don’t understand the concept of making common cause with people?

By Ben

November 7, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

The hubris of this statement “Mormonism is a cult and if a person can be deceived to follow a false religion such as this, then what else can he / she be persuaded to follow” is breath taking. Sadly, it is not hard to guess the religious beliefs of the preson who said that. Why is it that normally only people of this belief make statements like this about Latter-day Saints? And, how is it that they do not know that many of their own beliefs appear silly to people outside of their faith—but most people have the decency and lack of hubris to not make fun of their silly beliefs. For example, assuming the poster of this comment is from an evangelical background, guess what—the democrats DO make fun of your beliefs in the same way you make fun of LDS beliefs. On the other hand, the LDS people are your allies. Look at the proposition 8 in California. Who was your ally in this cause? What is wrong with you that you don’t understand the concept of making common cause with people?

By Rhyme

November 7, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

It isn’t the LDS Church you have to consider a cult.

It is the LEADERSHIP of the LDS church that is a cult, dangerous, megomaniacal and frightening beyond words.

And Mitt Romney is the Nephew of the Inner Circle.

Mormons and their leadership are two different things. Most Mormons don’t know ANYTHING about the REAL secrets of their leadership.

By Michael

November 7, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

To Rhyme: Mormons know very much about the leadership of their church. These leaders are some of the best men who have ever walked this planet. They have succeeded in life and in their occupations before being called into their positions in the church. They are not a paid clergy. They are men of faith, charity, and intelligence, and are great examples to the members of the church. They will always encourage members of the church to keep the commandments of God and to follow the example of Jesus Christ in word and deed.

By mark west

November 8, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

Only 4 Romney aides joined the McCain campaign. They were only Jr. Staff…

McCain’s campaign was fun while it lasted but now it’s over…

By WAW

November 8, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

One need only compare the resumes of Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin to realize the unsurmountable problem facing the Republican Party. The apparent solution finds its roots in German politics, ie. the Social Democratic Party and the Christian Democratic Party. The fact that both divisions are conservative means nothing. Jerry Farwell’s son, whom God anointed to inherit his father’s church and politics, is looking forward to another Reagan. But that is not going to happen. This is the 21st Century not the 80’s. So what the Democrats have known would happen has happened, the Republicans have split and will never persuade themselves to join together again.

By David, Oregon City

November 8, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

“Overwhelmed” by their access to voters, the conservative elite print media and talk show hosts are unknowing splitting the conservative vote again, as they did in the failed runs of John McCain, Gerald Ford, Bob Dole, George H Bush, and Ross Perot, rather than allowing conservatives and moderates to naturally come together and support new and fresh candidate that bring everyone together without the brain washing and negative slandering from the conservative elite print media and talk show hosts. Many of the conservative print media and most of the talk hosts continue to mislead and split the conservative party in favor of their preferred candidates and allow the liberals to continue to win. The conservative talk show are entertainment celebrities, mistakenly viewed as people in the know, but in reality they are only entertainers who have put self business and social interests ahead of their clear judgment of who would be the best President for everyone. They could never agree on a conservative candidate who has received the most votes from the lowest per vote expense as the people’s true choice, unlike their candidate who must spend the most per voter in an effort to force conservative and independent voters into supporting them. We need candidates who energize everyone from 6 to 60 (years old). Not someone who could “try” to inspire the voters if given the opportunity. Wake up conservatives; ignore “Rush” and the other “Rush” want-a-bees. Send a message that you have a brain, and say no thanks to their propaganda. Remember, the candidate who receives the most votes for the fewest dollars are the people to support. They can relate to the people, not just promise to relate if given the opportunity after it is too late to turn back.

By David, Oregon City

November 8, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

“Overwhelmed” by their access to voters, the conservative elite print media and talk show hosts are unknowing splitting the conservative vote again, as they did in the failed runs of John McCain, Gerald Ford, Bob Dole, George H Bush, and Ross Perot, rather than allowing conservatives and moderates to naturally come together and support new and fresh candidate that bring everyone together without the brain washing and negative slandering from the conservative elite print media and talk show hosts. Many of the conservative print media and most of the talk hosts continue to mislead and split the conservative party in favor of their preferred candidates and allow the liberals to continue to win. The conservative talk show are entertainment celebrities, mistakenly viewed as people in the know, but in reality they are only entertainers who have put self business and social interests ahead of their clear judgment of who would be the best President for everyone. They could never agree on a conservative candidate who has received the most votes from the lowest per vote expense as the people’s true choice, unlike their candidate who must spend the most per voter in an effort to force conservative and independent voters into supporting them. We need candidates who energize everyone from 6 to 60 (years old). Not someone who could “try” to inspire the voters if given the opportunity. Wake up conservatives; ignore “Rush” and the other “Rush” want-a-bees. Send a message that you have a brain, and say no thanks to their propaganda. Remember, the candidate who receives the most votes for the fewest dollars are the people to support. They can relate to the people, not just promise to relate if given the opportunity after it is too late to turn back.

By Blake Gardner

November 13, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

The republicans will never win again as long as bigotry is perceived by moderates. I’m an independent and am scared by the extreme left and right, however I think most of us are now more terrified of the the bigoted right. I find it amazing that republicans let someone as qualified as Romney slip through. Romney’s biggest problem is that he is a republican. Many of my friends wouldn’t vote for him because he is Mormon????, though they readily felt that he was the most qualified and likely had the best chance to beat the Dems. This is what made me lean toward Obama this election—I’m sick of the bigotry. It doesn’t happen in the democratic party, they elect the most qualified and best for the better good. The Christian republicans are all about themselves and not the better good.

By Steven Rinehart

November 14, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

GO ROMNEY!