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By Mike K.

November 5, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

That’s ok, it’ll only be two short years before the evangelicals can try to impose their values on others politically once more.

By Copyleft

November 5, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Let’s hope the evangelical nuts are out of power permanently. Why did people ever take theocrats seriously, anyhow?

By Evangelical Voter

November 5, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

That’s right, Mike K., because your vote was definitely not an imposition of your values was it? Far from it, I’m sure.

By David

November 5, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Ah, yes, Mike. When evangelicals (of which I’m not one) vote their values, they’re “imposing”. But when liberals vote their values, they’re just… what?

Since the 1960’s the left in america has increasingly politicized everything. The left is working day by day to influence or outright control our every action, leveraging the power of the state to achieve their ends. Every action — public or private — is subject to their opinion of what is or is not beneficial to society. What we eat, what we drive, how we raise our children, etc. Or maybe it’s just whether or not you’re Authorized to Speak, a la Joe the Plumber who suddenly found himself being asked for his papers when he had the temerity to question The One and didn’t like the answer he got.

This inevitably ends with a viewpoint of “everything inside the state, nothing outside the state” which was the mantra of a certain italian leader some 80 years ago.

So, please continue on with your demonization of conservatives and denigration of evangelicals. But when you’re out shopping for your brown shirt (approved by The One, of course, made from approved organic fibers by approved fair trade laborers), you might want to pause for a second and be thankful your cohorts haven’t (yet) set their sights on you.

By An Evangelical Nut

November 5, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Laugh all you want to. In a few years, Obama will be out of power but Jesus Christ will still be LORD. Think about it. Oh by the way… guess who is coming again!

By Jacketnation

November 5, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

We got a muslim liar in the whitehouse

By cynthia cromwell

November 5, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

i love this new president he’s is the bomb his wife and kids is great . i think is gonna be the new challenge of life just blackness walking down the street and in the white house. and hollywood etc… etc… peace to the new president

By Paul W

November 5, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

David has it exactly right. I don’t care if you are a snake-handling, tongue-speaking, fundamental nut (in the left’s jargon) or a satan-worshipper, or a superior, thoughtful caring liberal (who wants to support those for whom he “cares” with someone else’s money), you have the right to vote for candidates whose agendas and beliefs are closest to those of your own.

But if you are conservative, you are imposing your views on others; if you are liberal, you are trying to create a compassionate, caring government.

One last question- who is most likely to spend his OWN time and money on the less unfortunate- the conservative “fundamentalist” or the liberal? WE all know the answer to that.

Though the One was not my candidate, I can see the positive in the fact that a country with a 12% black population can elect a black president. That does in fact say something about the reduction (but not elimination) of racism in the USA. However, Obama will soon find that it is easier to theorize and promise than it is to perform and deliver.

I will be praying for him, because President Obama is now my President, too. I hope the liberals don’t mind.

By IFB

November 5, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

Why is it that these leftist liberals have all the say, and the rest of us just bow down to them?

All of us have opinions. If I respect yours, I feel you should have enough class to respect mine. We don’t have to agree, but we should at least respect one another.

I wonder if the reson they are so one way is that they know deep down they are wrong about a lot things and it is a thing of conscience.

IFB

By JB

November 5, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

Dear Jacketnation, You had a drunk AND idiot in the whitehouse with BUSH. Get over it and become a part of the new MOVEMENT!!!

By cynthia cromwell

November 5, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

i love this new president he’s is the bomb his wife and kids is great . i think this is gonna be the new challenge of life just blackness walking down the street and in the white house. and hollywood etc… etc… peace to the new president

By The Blog Prophet

November 5, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Please don’t equate conservatives and evangelicals. I’m as conservative as they come — fiscally, foreign policy-wise, socially — and I think the wave-their-hands-in-the-air, Bible thumping fundamentalist evangelicals are categorically nuts and a plague on society. I’ve NEVER felt comfortable having them as a Republican base.

By Jackie

November 5, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

To Jacketnation: Bitter party of one.. bitter party of one

By Dave

November 5, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Did you notice that Liberty County, the home of Fort Stewart, voted for Obama? And Chattahoochee County, the home of Fort Benning, voted for Obama as well.

By Soixante huitard

November 5, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

Wow, David. That’s quite delusional brew of insinuations and outright accusations you’ve cobbled together there.

As for Evangelicals (of which I’m ALSO not one) and “politicizing”, it’s your side, sir, which is bent on politicizing things (involving a woman’s choice of whether to have an abortion, to name just one example) and which has brought us to the ideological morass that we have lately been mired in and not the other side. (But, hey, while I’m at it - why not another example? Does the name Terry Schiavo mean anything to you?)

Although of course with your snide reference to ‘politicization’, you’re of course on to something as the Left has certainly done plenty of that over the last century or so. For example when it had the audactiy to politicize the little matter of whether young children could be made to work in factories or whether it was the right thing to do to allow factory owners to require 8-day workweeks and 12 workdays.

Hadn’t thought about it quite that way, had you?

I didn’t think so. Because nowadays when anyone politicizes anything, it’s always the nefarious Left doing it. Well that’s a distortion.

By justmyopinion

November 5, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

JB So it’s okay to call Bush any name you want but it’s not okay to not vote for Obama. I think you and all the Obama supporters are not going to like the “new movement”, time will tell. Jacketnation you are a nut. David is right on and I don’t know what’s up with Cynthia Cromwell but it looks like she might be a bigger nut than Jacketnation is.

By Adam

November 5, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

The irony is that Cleland got the boot because he was so enamored with the National Democrats and forgot the Georgia voters and now Chambliss is in somewhat the same position by following lockstep with whatever the Republican leadership told him to do. If he had shown some independence, stood for SOMETHING he would have had much more support.

I voted for Chambliss and will again in a runoff but only because we need every Republican we can have in the Senate. But I would feel much better about my vote if I felt he had a clue and exhibited a little spine in standing for conservative principles.

By Shannon, M.Div.

November 5, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

The increasingly likely possibility of a runoff makes me happy. It’ll be tough to flip this state, but it’s possible—especially with Chambliss, who has a history of particularly nasty smears against his opponents. I think we’re all sick of that kind of crap. On the other hand, I’ve not been completely pleased with Martin’s (ubiquitous) ads—too many of them are anti-Chambliss instead of pro-Martin.

Frankly, I don’t believe anything Chambliss says—especially after the way he treated Vietnam War veteran Max Cleland. I don’t care what he claims, those ads showing that honorable veteran with Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein did question his patriotism, and those ads are definitely the most disgusting and dirty political tactic I’ve seen in my lifetime. (Granted, I’m only 34). I’ve wondered how Chambliss (5 student deferments and a medical deferment for a football injury) sleeps at night after that.

I’m a liberal now (although I had a picture of Bush Sr. in my locker growing up), but this is beyond party lines. That guy needs to be sent home. He has no class and no character, and he disgusts me about as much as “Swift Boat Veterans” do. Some things just need to be off the table. Military service is one of ‘em, especially by folks like Chambliss. I guess after that, Chambliss could tell me that Martin eats babies, and I wouldn’t believe him. Can’t trust a word. I looked up his commercial, and yes, Martin resigned after two years of working for DHR after some very troubling events in that department, but he wasn’t “fired” and he didn’t kill children. Two years isn’t enough to change a corporate culture, and Martin’s got a long track record as a legislative workhorse that indicates to me he’d do a good, if not flashy, job in the Senate.

Guess it’s time for me to sign up to work for Martin’s runoff campaign.

By Soixante huitard

November 5, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

Correction: I meant to write: whether it was the right thing to do to allow factory owners to require 8-day workweeks and 12-hr. workdays.

By Prayerful

November 5, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

This is to “Evangelical Nut” and David..Ignorance is truly bliss. Yes we Christians (the real ones like myself and the new President of the United States) know full well who is “coming again”. That very person is The One who made all this possible. We give him all the honor and praise for this. So you are the one that sounds like you need to check yourself before YOU have to give an account for the obvious hatred in your heart. Mr. so-called Jesus follower. If you knew Him or anything about God and His character, you would understand that your “denomination” is not of Him but rather created by man who is obviously flawed. And by the way, a President’s term is for four years, not two. So your two year reference is very telling. And as for “Jacketnation” I wouldnt even grace your comment with an answer; You are just that ignorant. You basically belong in a museum with all the other outdated relics.

By DHD

November 5, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

Here’s my take on the evangelical vote. All you have to do is watch TBN and see that the big evangelical leaders speak to LOTS of blacks. Rod Parsley, for example, produced lots of votes for GWB 4 years ago. He was silent this year. I know, there was that deal with McCain earlier, but that was McCain trying to get Parsley to help him. People like Paula White and Ken Copeland. They have black followers. They could not alienate themselves from their followers. Then you have James Dobson who said under no circumstance would he support McCain. Pat Robertson was quiet. Jerry Falwell and D James Kennedy are dead. They were HUGE in the evangelical world. You can’t underestimate these votes especially in light of CO,FL, OH, VA and NC. Those states were fairly close and if McCain gets those states, it’s a different game.