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By Dan H.

October 16, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Boortz is a self-loving moron with meaningless opinions.

By Boortz

October 16, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Dan H. is a self-loving moron with meaningless opinions.

By Steve

October 16, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Not sure why the AJC even bothered to pick this story up. Maybe it’s the Cox tie-in.

By Boortz

October 16, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Dan H. is a self-loving moron with meaningless opinions.

By Dan H.

October 16, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

People who believe the Fair Tax is a sham are morons with meaningless opinions too.

By Jason

October 16, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Who cares what Neal Boortz thinks? What a fat gas bag. Dick.

By JR

October 16, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

I’m a Republican but Buckley nailed it. Every Fairtax supporter I have met was a little slow in math!

By hannah

October 16, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Mr. Galloway, you are an imbecile as is Mr. Buckley.

By ROGER DAVIS

October 16, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

“Who CARES”!!!

By tom

October 16, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Not a surprise coming from an egotistical blowhard like Boortz. The guy is the official leader of the “me first” crowd. Vote Martin if you’re like me- sick of the regressive good ol’ boys who dominate GA politics.

By Cynic

October 16, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Boortz is a self-absorbed, self-important idiot. And his “Fair Tax” is not only a misnomer, but an overly simplistic and unworkable approach to our tax structure.

By MP

October 16, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

I still listen to Neal but it seems less and less each week. He sold his soul when he went national and syndicated. The guy was a lot better on local and state issues.

He is far more right than wrong about the fair tax. The IRS, the regulations, and the collection process are an absolute joke.

If not the “fair tax” as proposed, something needs to be done. We are spending BILLIONS and BILLIONS just collecting and reporting on taxes.

IT IS OBSURD!

By Steve

October 16, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Not sure why the AJC even bothered to pick this story up. Maybe it’s the Cox tie-in.

By Tyre Hester

October 16, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Thank you! I was going to vote for one of these other guys, because of the bailout vote. Chambliss just got my vote back. I didn’t know both Martin and Buckley were morons.

By Susan

October 16, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

He may be self-loving, but he isn’t a moron. The Fair-Tax is so fair and straight that it will probably never come to be because there aren’t enough loop holes in it for all the dishonest people out there.

By Oedipustax

October 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

The days of impartial journalism is long over. The AJC is nothing but a partisan BET wannabe that shamlessly masquerades as being impartial. At least Boortz is honest in his opinions. Time for journalists at rags like the AJC to unmask their blatant prejucides, and declare themselves liberals and Democrats.

By calvin

October 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Who in the world would care what Boortz thinks or has to say? He is a blowhard whose eyes surely must be brown.

By Adolf Boretz

October 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Boortz is just hoaring his stupid book. No one other than his lisping back-bencher John Linder cares.

By Kim H

October 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

People to disparage the Fair Tax do not understand it and haven’t read the books.

By Dan H.

October 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Jason is a self-loving moron with meaningless opinions.

By Jason

October 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Who cares what Neal Boortz thinks? What a fat gas bag. Dick.

By Kim H

October 16, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

People who disparage the Fair Tax do not understand it and haven’t read the books.

By ABC

October 16, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Well isn’t this a slanted blog insert. I am not a Boortz fan, and agree with Dan H. that he is conceited and always hangs up on people when they make valid counterpoints, but I would call the Fair Tax a sham. Not saying I’m for it or against, but I don’t think it should be written off entirely. After all, it would encourage savings and restraint in spending (something we all should admit has gotten out of control — see America’s debt problem) and not disincentivize people from working harder for more money (which an income tax arguably does). On the other hand, it could discourage consumer spending to the extent of harming our economy, which would be an obvious negative. I say let the good faith debate continue and lay off terms like “sham.”

By Jeremiah

October 16, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Boortz is right, anyone who has fully read and understands the scope of the Fairtax plan, knows that it is the most fair, most practical, and will allow for more growth of the US economy than any other tax system proposal! It is the corrupt henchmen of the IRS and big government that would oppose the fair tax, simply so they can keep buying votes with tax cuts for the poor and wealth redistribution! I find it just pathetic that those who oppose the fair tax, don’t understand it and won’t even fully read everything to understand it! They simply are against it because Boortz and other libertarians and conservatives support it! Socialist scumbags, plain and simple!

By vlscpa

October 16, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

FAIR TAX—that’s funny. Chambliss voted for that bogus bailout, but I can’t bring myself to throw the bum out, knowing that he’d be replaced by a Dem bulb.

By scrappy

October 16, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

I am amazed so many people listen to Boortz. Besides his rants, he is on in the middle of the day, don’t people work anymore?

By lovelyliz

October 16, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

We afraid, be very afraid, when a much of millionaires with no history of philanthropy or a doctorate in economics tells you they have come up with a fair tax plan that when you look at the details is extremely fuxxy on the math and not so fair after all.

By Steven d.

October 16, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Boortz,anybody who listens to that idiot and believes anything he says, is an idiot personifiied, I’m laughing so hard.

By Tommy L. Jenkins

October 16, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Boortz is a lying oral prostitute-in-chief who is retained and supported by our Society’s wealthiest 2%. Boortz will support anything and anybody as long as he is given a CHECK.

By justmyopinion

October 16, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

I agree with some on this blog he is a blowhard. That being said I have studied the fair tax and it is doable. The system we now have is a bunch of (#*% and it is Congress that benefits from the current tax system as they hold the power not the people. We need some kind of tax reform be it the fair tax or another idea. How about coming up with other ideas instead of bashing someone elses?

By Scott

October 16, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Boortz is a radio show host with a large following. To call his opinions “meaningless” is well, “meaningless”.

The fair tax is an idea worth trying. Anybody who files their taxes each year who doesn’t think our current system is ridiculous is a masochist. Look at how many differnt taxes and “fees” we pay-Food, water bill, phone bill, cell bill, gas bill, auto, local property, tag, gas, personal income, business income, stormwater, dog, etc, etc.

All these and the government is still broke!

By Scott

October 16, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Boortz is a radio show host with a large following. To call his opinions “meaningless” is well, “meaningless”.

The fair tax is an idea worth trying. Anybody who files their taxes each year who doesn’t think our current system is ridiculous is a masochist. Look at how many differnt taxes and “fees” we pay-Food, water bill, phone bill, cell bill, gas bill, auto, local property, tag, gas, personal income, business income, stormwater, dog, etc, etc.

All these and the government is still broke!

By J-Lizzle

October 16, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

To Adolf: At least Boortz could spell w******* correctly! The Fair Tax is just like it says, Fair!! You guys who don’t like it obviously have never taken the time to learn about it, morons!

By Tommy L. Jenkins

October 16, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Boortz is a lying oral prostitute-in-chief who is retained and supported by our Society’s wealthiest 2%. Boortz will support anything and anybody as long as he is given a CHECK.

By Tommy L. Jenkins

October 16, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Boortz is a lying oral prostitute-in-chief who is retained and supported by our Society’s wealthiest 2%. Boortz will support anything and anybody as long as he is given a CHECK.

By Kim M

October 16, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

The Fair Tax is a joke, in hard economic times it will just make things harder on the common man. Saxby doesn’t even know what the Fair Tax is at the debate in Perry, he could not answere any questions about it. Gusee the lobbyist that has him backing it did not bother to give him any details.

By slaughdog

October 16, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

Boortz is a NOBODY, a self-loving moron & totally IRRELEVANT. Why does anybody even listen to his show?

By awm

October 16, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

The present system is broken, it is possible that we should try something new. Yes Boortz is self absorbed and full of himself, but it is possible that a new tax system may be the answer.

By Jeremiah

October 16, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Boortz is right, anyone who has fully read and understands the scope of the Fairtax plan, knows that it is the most fair, most practical, and will allow for more growth of the US economy than any other tax system proposal! It is the corrupt henchmen of the IRS and big government that would oppose the fair tax, simply so they can keep buying votes with tax cuts for the poor and wealth redistribution! I find it just pathetic that those who oppose the fair tax, don’t understand it and won’t even fully read everything to understand it! They simply are against it because Boortz and other libertarians and conservatives support it! Socialist scumbags, plain and simple!

By Boortz

October 16, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

People who don’t believe in the Fair Tax are poor ghetto trash that have no real value to our society because they contribute nothing to it.

and … Dan H. is a self-loving moron with meaningless opinions.

By Jason

October 16, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Boortz is an entertainer, not a lawmaker. His opinions on politics, education, the economy, etc. are of no more value than Sean Penn’s.

By Hair Club For Propaganda

October 16, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

BORTZ and HERMAN CAIN are both ……100% BIASED PROPAGANDA IN THE WORST FORM POSSIBLE.—-TWO CARTOON CHARACTERS MISLEADING THE PUBLIC, I WOULD NEVER BUY ANY PRODUCT ENDORSED BY greedy BORTZ IN HIS STUPID ASININE COMMERCIALS. ……….ELEVEN…ELEVEN… WHAT A JERK! GO oogle over jewelry at Solomon Brothers.

By Teacher

October 16, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Speaking of morons, do any of you people proof read your posts for spelling and grammar before you hit the POST button?

By JMartin08

October 16, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

I’ve read the book. It’s still oversimplistic crap.

One of it’s main theories is that when businesses see savings in taxes they will pass those savings down to the consumer, the “trickle down” effect.

How’s that been working for ya’ll since the massive 2001 tax breaks for the rich?

By Adolf Boretz

October 16, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Boortz is just hoaring his stupid book. No one other than his lisping back-bencher John Linder cares.

By vlscpa

October 16, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

FAIR TAX—that’s HILARIOUS! Neal, you know yourself what will happen when Atlas Shrugs. The frauds are already underground, the folks paying the tab are looking for that cartoon trap-door right now. When they figure out how, that you can’t beat them without joining them, there won’t be commerce that you can see. Spreading the tax responsibility to dozens of merchants, instead of ONE individual, spreads the chance of noncompliance all over the place. They won’t all turn that tax over, and they won’t be found when they’ve run to ground, with the money. FAIR TAX MY AX!

By Andy

October 16, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

“FairTax” is a farce and anyone with sense knows that.

By Boots

October 16, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Boortz is in love with the sound of his own voice.

By Adolf Boretz

October 16, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

J-Lizzle, how ignorant can you get? See what happens when you spell an “offensive” word correctly? You obviously don’t know schitt — just like your fanny bandit Boortz!

By Aaron Burr V. Mexico

October 16, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Ah, Ann “I think Rape is KEEN” Rand?

Atlas Shrugged is a very wonderful fairy tale, except for the little part about how 90% of those supposedly ‘productive’ people who go off and hide on their own couldn’t feed themselves if their lives depend upon it.

By yankee

October 16, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Is it required to say “moron” in every post, or is that a southern term of endearment

By Can't stand Boortz

October 16, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

I agree with much of Boortz’s political views, however, his vast opinions on numerous subjects that he knows nothing about is the reason I will not listen to him.

I’ve realized over the years that Boortz feels he is smarter than all of us. If I hear his voice, I turn the station.

By John

October 16, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

The DSCC should send somebody to debate Mr. Boortz on the Fair Tax. The DSCC will not do that, but they should. Many countries around the world have very successfully switched to the Fair Tax, and maybe some day we can get away from our archaic and cumbersome tax codes. There is not a person alive who fully understands the American tax codes. Does it have to be so complicated?

By Trash4life

October 16, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Boortz is an idiot! He is old, has no place on radio anymore since he is a 20th century puppet for the right-wing. He is not a libertarian. He is a Bush puppet. And he is just OLD!

By itpdude

October 16, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

We are ignoring one big point: Boortz is not that bright. He knows how to “debate” when he has the on/off switch. Put him in a real situation where sustainable critical thinking is key, he fails badly. It’s why he had to get a law degree from an uncredited school that today still has the worst bar passage rates in the state.

By Tom

October 16, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

I agree that our current tax code is overly complicated. I think the FairTax idea is overly simplistic.

Making the tax collection system more efficient would permit the amount of taxes to go down (by reducing overhead). The proposed tax rates though simply don’t bring in the money that our governments need to pay the bills and while I’ll agree that cutting spending is extremly important, I don’t think most individuals realize how comfortable we are with so much of the money that is spent.

The FairTax would force us to change our entire social mentality. Some of the supporters want it for that reason… I suspect far greater numbers would in turn oppose it for that reason as well.

By sunshine and thunder

October 16, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Boortz is syndicated in something like 70 markets. Yeah, he is meaningless.

The whole point is that Jim Martin is a LIAR. Not only does he LIE about Bush’s economic policies he LIES about the FairTax.

Yes it adds 23% to the price of goods and services BUT it removes the 28% withholding of paychecks for income and payroll taxes.

Even a LYING idiot like Jim Martin should be able to understand that when you take home 28% more money you can easily pay 23% more for goods and services.

The main difference is that, under the FairTax, you are able to decide when and where you pay your taxes. That is a transfer of power from the government to the people that LIARS like Jim Martin abhor.

By PR

October 16, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Boortz is a moron. If he thinks the “fair tax” will solve the problem he’s smoking dope.

By wjones

October 16, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

To all who disagree with the fairtax. Im sorry but you don’t have a clue. Just know you’ll never know why it works until you find out why. Simple. Do me this 1 favor. Add up all of your purchases for the last month or estamate what your average monthly purchases are and add 23% tax to your total purchases. Write down how much the 23% is. As you know, this already includes the state sales tax you paid on the purchase receipts. So now, go to your paychecks for the month and see how much income tax has been removed. subtract the Net from your Grosss income. Now ask yourself this? Would I be paying more taxes under the Fairtax plan? It’s a no brainer. Calculate your own situation, rich or poor, Read the book, drop the pride and making a fool of your self then appologize to Boortz and me. Fairtax supporter representen baby.

By MAU

October 16, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

Who cares what Boortz thinks or says, he is like the rest of them, a hack and a windbag.

By "W" and Republican Greed

October 16, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Are you better off than 8 years ago?———Herbert Hoover whould be proud of our current Administration.

By Booooortz

October 16, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Boortz is a fraud! He ‘claims’ he is a “Libertatian”, but he doesn’t support Bob Barr, but McCain.

By doug

October 16, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Fair Tax is exactly what it says, FAIR! Boortz is right on target. Most of the idiots who don’t want the Fair Tax have never read a word obout it or can’t read at all!!!

By doug

October 16, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Fair Tax is exactly what it says, FAIR! Boortz is right on target. Most of the idiots who don’t want the Fair Tax have never read a word obout it or can’t read at all!!!

By doug

October 16, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Fair Tax is exactly what it says, FAIR! Boortz is right on target. Most of the idiots who don’t want the Fair Tax have never read a word obout it or can’t read at all!!!

By doug

October 16, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Fair Tax is exactly what it says, FAIR! Boortz is right on target. Most of the idiots who don’t want the Fair Tax have never read a word obout it or can’t read at all!!!

By doug

October 16, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Fair Tax is exactly what it says, FAIR! Boortz is right on target. Most of the idiots who don’t want the Fair Tax have never read a word obout it or can’t read at all!!!

By doug

October 16, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Fair Tax is exactly what it says, FAIR! Boortz is right on target. Most of the idiots who don’t want the Fair Tax have never read a word obout it or can’t read at all!!!

By cityofdecatur

October 16, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

If you loved prohibition and the black market it spawned you’ll love the unFAIR TAX The Fair taxers also skim over and dismiss this aspect but it will happen. On such a massive scale as to make prohibition drugs and all other black markets pale in comparison. Remember it is the very wealthy who are selling this pig in a poke and the very easily led who are buying it. There are way too many assumptions built in for ANY of it to be believed. Remember even Boortz reminds you he is an entertainer. He also spouts just enough “truth” to hook his listeners many of whom have personal axes to grind (don’t like this hate that etc.). The Fair Tax is an Orwellian doublespeak proposal. Any one with an adjusted income of less than $500,000.00 is a dolt for buying into it. Remember Boortz also wanted your social security to be tied to the stock market. Don’t hear many calling for that today. Remember he’s an entertainer that panders to the anger and hate in the electorate believe his bull at your own peril.

By doug

October 16, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

Fair Tax is exactly what it says, FAIR!  Boortz is right on target.  Most of the idiots who don’t want the Fair Tax have never read a word obout it or can’t read at all!!!

By Doug

October 16, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Fair Tax is exactly what it says, FAIR! Boortz is right on target. Most of the idiots who don’t want the Fair Tax have never read a word obout it or can’t read at all!!!

By Doug

October 16, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Boortz & Chambliss, 2 of a kind snake oil salesmen..

By Doug H

October 16, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Saxby votes for a $700,000,000,000.00 Wall Street Bailout then added $153,000,000,000.00 of pork, that’s what I call a FAIR Tax.

By Oedipustax

October 16, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

There’s not an opponent to the Fair Tax on this blog that can actually read a book. Instead, the mindless sycophants, the stercoriculous, and the coprophagous, polute creative thinking and lead our country to have the values of a cesspool. Also, the same morons don’t own an unabridged dictionary, thus, they’ll never even have a clue what I just wrote, and the mephetic morons, with their public school NEA ignorance, won’t have a clue.

By wjones

October 16, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

cityofdecatur, again you are wrong like the rest. Don’t pay attention cityofdecatur fusses and moans. Put down the pride. Stop advocating the current tax system by disagreeing that the fairtax would help everyone across the board.

Again- Don’t take cityofdecatur or my word for it. Do the math. Do me this 1 favor. Add up all of your purchases for the last month or estamate what your average monthly purchases are and add 23% tax to your total purchases. Write down how much the 23% is. As you know, this already includes the state sales tax you paid on the purchase receipts. So now, go to your paychecks for the month and see how much income tax has been removed. subtract the Net from your Grosss income. Now ask yourself this? Would I be paying more taxes under the Fairtax plan? It’s a no brainer. Calculate your own situation, rich or poor, Read the book, drop the pride and making a fool of your self then appologize to Boortz and me. Fairtax supporter representen baby.

By cityofdecatur

October 16, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

notice the supporters of the unFair Tax tend to double and triple post. hmm low IQ (there will be a delay of up to 5 minutes before your comment appears) can’t read easily led. ha ha ha Doug your an idiot!

By Atlanta Native

October 16, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

David Brooks once pointed out the following “Just because George Bush says something doesn’t mean its wrong.” In other words, just because you hate someone does not mean they are always wrong. Think about it, does the fact that Hitler was a vegetarian make vegetarianism evil? Of course not.

The same goes for Boortz. Sure he is childish and condescending to his callers when they disagree. But remember, he is an entertainer and whether you love or hate him doesn’t change the fact the tax system is screwed up. It cannot be fixed without being overhauled entirely. The National Sales Tax (what the “Fair Tax” should be named) is the only total overhaul plan out there. Until there is something else, it beats what we have. The present plan acts as an incentive to disobey the laws of this country and keep one’s money abroad if one has enough to do so. We need the money here.

By JJ

October 16, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Sen. Saxby Chambliss called into the local Republican talk show this morning to join in the bashing of Jim Martin.

Chambliss said the attack on the FairTax was to be expected because it’s all they have. He called Obama a socialist, something I don’t disagree with. Boortz interjected that Republicans have done a lot to grow the government, including the nationalization of financial institutions. Chambliss responded that the spending has been defense related to prevent future terrorist attack.

Wrong, Sen. Chambliss.

Non-defense discretionary spending skyrocketed under the Bush Administration and a Republican-controlled Congress. You can cut taxes all you want, but it doesn’t mean much if you aren’t balancing it with spending cuts. That’s the reason we are running $450 billion deficits and why the dollar has gone to hell. I want the tax cuts, but I want spending cuts too. You failed that test, Sen. Chambliss.

Sen. Chambliss has crowned himself as a small government conservative. That is absurd. Chambliss has never gone against the Bush Administration on spending. He voted to add another entitlement to Medicare, which was already a ticking economic time bomb because of massive unfunded liabilities, with the prescription drug benefit. Chambliss voted to add another $9 trillion in unfunded liabilities to it. That burden will ultimately come down on taxpayers. This entitlement was referred to as “the most fiscally irresponsible piece of legislation since the 1960s,” by former Comptroller General David Walker.

He voted for and supported the veto override of the pork-laden farm bill. This bill hurts Americans by jacking up prices at the grocery store. He supported the Gang of 10 plan to increase taxes by $30 billion on oil companies.

If Saxby Chambliss is the model of a small government conservative, then Barack Obama is a moderate. Really, Democrats should love Saxby Chambliss. He has helped bring the big government that Clinton and Cleland promised but never delivered.

By wjones

October 16, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

cityofdecatur. Just go home and get the receipts, add them up an you’ll know. Stop trying to act like a have-not just because you have-not a brain to do the math. Stop trying to play economist and stick your daily routine knowing that you’ll disagree until you actually inform yourself. Again. do the math, then go back to your day.

By fairY- tax

October 16, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

* The fairY tax is for fairY people*

By GW

October 16, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

I don’t like Boortz’s style so I seldom listen. He is overly proud of himself and I could care less that he can fly a plane. With that said, I’ve read the books and the FairTax should not be written off because of Boortz. It would help if he realized that his personna distracts from any proposals that he makes. A smart guy would recognize that…sell a plan and make folks think it is their idea. Plus he’s jealous of big-time talkers.

By Lex Luthor

October 16, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Anyone who’s ever run a small business knows one thing: The current system can be likened to running a 100-meter dash with a broken knee.

25%-30% of you money is taken before you even see it. Why is that better than it being taken as you decide to spend it?

By UnfairTax

October 16, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

If you make $5 million per year like Boortz and only spend $1 million, the fairtax plan is great and wonderful! Only 20% of your income gets taxed. But, if you make $60,000 per year and spend $60,000, the fair tax plan is terrible, because 100% of your income is taxed. But just call it “fair tax” and everything sounds great!

By wjones

October 16, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

To UnfairTax- Choice is great!!!

By cityofdecatur

October 16, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

wjones keep up the attacks on me personally but, you still and neither does the unFair taxers address the black market aspect. it will happen and your telling me to shut up and go home and your attacks on me is the perfect ignore the idea and change the subject you right wing nutcakes always do. have fun in your ignorance and denial. wjones has no cajones.

By TW

October 16, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

If we agree to pay for Saxby’s drinks and green fees until he dies, I think we could get him to quit.

Why the GOP approves of the welfare check Saxby gets is beyond me. Saxby’s done nothing for Georgia but watch Washington send out boys into battle for NOTHING. Way to stick up for our soldiers, Saxby.

Saxby Chambliss ought wear a ski mask to pick up his check - he’s stealing.

By MV7

October 16, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

I would vote against Chambliss if there was a candidate that wasnt a Democratic talking points drone like Jim Martin. Come one people Martin is about as interesting as a documentary on Jimmy Carter. Chambilss is everything that has run conservatives out of Washington. In order to keep the democratic sweep I will grudgingly vote for Saxby.

Oh yea Jim, your still a political hack working for a undeclaired liberal news outlet.

By wjones

October 16, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Plus- Unfairtax- You are then stating that it’s unfair if Boortz spent 5 million per year. Oh and then it isn’t fair because Boortz just injected 5 million into the tax system when the person making 60,000 injected only 60,000. Tell me that’s fair. Go home do the math.

By Copyleft

October 16, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Darn, I was too late to post my predictions at the start of yet another UnfairTax thread.

I knew the FairTax cultists would swarm all over it with their tired old, well-rehearsed lines:

“Anyone who doesn’t like the FairTax hasn’t read the book or doesn’t understand it!” (Wrong, and disturbingly cultish)

“Anyone who doesn’t like the FairTax must be an idiotic to think our current tax system is so wonderful!” (Wrong; false dichotomy. You don’t have to love our current system to notice that a suggested alternative would be worse.)

“Anyone who doesn’t love the FairTax must be a tax accountant or fat-cat lawyer making money off our broken tax system!” (Wrong again, this time an ad-hominem red herring.)

I didn’t read the comments yet, but you folks have no way of knowing that. So tell me… How accurate were my predictions? Did the talkazi drones hit all those points so far, or are they still working on it?

By Throw Saxby Out

October 16, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Boortz is a loud mouth BORE.

By David

October 16, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Boortz - I make six figures and don’t support the Fair Tax. I do support a consumption based tax, but I find the Fair Tax lacking in certain areas. Does that mean you’re calling me “poor ghetto trash” as well?

By Big O

October 16, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Neal Boortz, Hannity and Limburger are nothing more than the 3 Stooges. As a matter of fact, Neal and Sean can pass for Abbott&Costello. Hannity looks just like Costello and talks like him. They only preach to the masses of GOP zombies out there who has no mind of their own. If these guys come on one day and say that the “Sky is falling”, these masses will be out there believing and preaching the same. All I can say is, what fools we have here in the US of A.

By wjones

October 16, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

cityofdecatur - Thanks. And Im proud of my cajones. That actually made me laugh, its good to know you are human with emotions. For one, Im not a right wing nut. 2, I never disagreed with you on the Black market talking point, plus you gave nothing that was informing to me to attack you on. It wasn’t specifics cause there was none. If it was an attack, then it was on the bases that simply you disagree with the fairtax and that you don’t quit know why or what your agenda for doing it even is. My agenda is for the fairtax because I know the facts. Agree to disagree. But hey, at least im provoking thought. But please go home and do the math and then you can appologize later.

By Pierce Randall

October 16, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

What, you mean two amateurs (Linder & Boortz) can’t successfully re-invent the system of taxation that’s been around for… God knows how long? Golly gee, my universe is blown, my modesty compromised today, sir.

The sad thing is, these amateurs got a movement of middle-aged white men armchair libertarians into their ring. Maybe that reflects the marginalization of the right in this country — the fracture of the Reagan coalition. So maybe it is a positive development. We’ll see….

By Big O

October 16, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Neal Boortz, Hannity and Limburger are nothing more than the 3 Stooges. As a matter of fact, Neal and Sean can pass for Abbott&Costello. Hannity looks just like Costello and talks like him. They only preach to the masses of GOP zombies out there who has no mind of their own. If these guys come on one day and say that the “Sky is falling”, these masses will be out there believing and preaching the same. All I can say is, what fools we have here in the US of A.

By findog

October 16, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

The fair tax may theoretically actually be fair; but the proposed law does not limit congress’ ability to go back and transfer wealth. It is one sided, and it is an important side, but it glazes over the spending side of the need for taxes.

By cc

October 16, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Wjones, you are the best! It’s too bad your explanation is wasted on idiots. I for one agree 100% with you regarding the fair tax. Why should my husband and I work 60 to 70 hours a week for a pay check and have the government steal most of our money for taxes for some low lifes who probably don’t pay taxes anyway. That’s why their sorry a#$ are voting for Obama Mr. Welfare man himself. So my husband and I decided to lower our income that way we are not contributing any more money to Obama’s Welfare train. When was the last time any of you got a job from a poor person.

By joey

October 16, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

What is truly funny, is the people on this board that hate Boortz, because, in his blowhard way, he is MUCH smarter than they are.

He says something on his radio show, and these idiots can’t comphrehend beyond a 4th grade level, then they hate Boortz. Too Funny.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

October 16, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

The Fair Tax like any tax can be avoided. Just do your purchasing under the table. It happens now and would be easy to adapt to.

By vanno

October 16, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Could a sitting president unilaterally provide incentives for a state to establish a state version of the FairTax?

By Radar

October 16, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code 29 CFR 1910.169(a)(2) 29 CFR 1910.169(b)(1)

For those of you who are not aware of the history of the income tax in our country and/or have not researched the fair tax, here it is in the cliff note version.

Our federal government was not established with the intent to tax the income of its citizens. Instead, the government collected the funds it needed by levying taxes on alcohol (distilled spirits), carriages, refined sugar, tobacco and snuff, property sold at auction, corporate bonds, gold, silverware, jewelry, and watches (consumption type taxes). In 1817 congress did away with all internal taxes, relying on tariffs on imported goods. During the civil war, congress enacted the first income tax. But in 1895 the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the income tax was unconstitutional because it was not apportioned among the states in conformity with the constitution. The income tax did not make its return until the U.S. became involved in World War I; and, this was only supposed to be temporary. So to make this long history lesson short, prior to the civil and after 1895, the U.S. government was able to function on the equivalent of a consumption tax – because like now, the cost of the tariffs were passed on to he consumer.

The fair tax replaces all current taxes collect by the federal government with a consumption tax. The federal government will no longer collect income, capital gains, death, social security, medicare/medicaid, alternative minimum, etc. type taxes. Additionally, all of these taxes will be removed from the cost of the goods and services that are purchased – because right now these taxes are already imbedded in the purchase price of every item purchased (contrary to the politicians and media – business’ do not pay taxes – they pass the taxes they pay to us the consumer). As of now the imbedded taxes (in the goods and services we purchase) is approximately 22-25%. The fair tax, as proposed, would be 23%. So that an item that you purchase now for $100.00 (with the imbedded tax) would cost $81.00 plus $19.00 for the fair tax (the cost you pay is still $100.00). Now for those of you who say that this is not fair for the poor… These will be rebate checks sent by the federal government once a month to individuals/families for the essential items such as food to offset the cost of the 23% fair tax. This amount of the rebate will be based on marital status and number of legal family members. In other words, those that actually pay federal taxes will continue to pay; and, those that do not will continue to not pay.

The fair tax has been researched and approved by people with more degrees than you or I have. Neal Boortz and John Linder just used this research, and conducted research of their own; and, found the benefits. Folks, you need to research this stuff yourself and not to rely mainly on others to sway your opinion. If you research the fair tax like I have, you find that it is fair.

By Copyleft

October 16, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Thanks for reminding me, Joey. I left out one of the cult’s favorite lines:

“We’re smarter than you! (You can tell, because we get all our ideas from talk radio!) You’re just too dumb to understand how brilliant the First Church of FairTax is, and its holy teachings! You must Read the Book with an open heart (and an empty head)!”

By Big O

October 16, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

TO HANNITY & BOORTZ:

THE FAIRTAX ISN’T GOING TO WORK!!! This is just some idea to try to get away from REALLY PAYING YOUR FAIR SHARE of TAXES.

If you make more, then you get taxed more. Simple as that. Suck it up. Stop your crying like a b***. And LIKE IT!!! Because you are GONNA PAY!!!

Oh Neal, tell your boy Hannity that his crying about Ayers and the rest has only made use realize how STUPID he is to think that we would be stupid enough to care about that BS instead of the issues.

By Big O

October 16, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

TO HANNITY & BOORTZ:

THE FAIRTAX ISN’T GOING TO WORK!!! This is just some idea to try to get away from REALLY PAYING YOUR FAIR SHARE of TAXES.

If you make more, then you get taxed more. Simple as that. Suck it up. Stop your crying like a b***. And LIKE IT!!! Because you are GONNA PAY!!!

Oh Neal, tell your boy Hannity that his crying about Ayers and the rest has only made use realize how STUPID he is to think that we would be stupid enough to care about that BS instead of the issues.

By Big O

October 16, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

TO HANNITY & BOORTZ:

THE FAIRTAX ISN’T GOING TO WORK!!! This is just some idea to try to get away from REALLY PAYING YOUR FAIR SHARE of TAXES.

If you make more, then you get taxed more. Simple as that. Suck it up. Stop your crying like a b***. And LIKE IT!!! Because you are GONNA PAY!!!

Oh Neal, tell your boy Hannity that his crying about Ayers and the rest has only made use realize how STUPID he is to think that we would be stupid enough to care about that BS instead of the issues.

By Big O

October 16, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

TO HANNITY & BOORTZ:

THE FAIRTAX ISN’T GOING TO WORK!!! This is just some idea to try to get away from REALLY PAYING YOUR FAIR SHARE of TAXES.

If you make more, then you get taxed more. Simple as that. Suck it up. Stop your crying like a b***. And LIKE IT!!! Because you are GONNA PAY!!!

Oh Neal, tell your boy Hannity that his crying about Ayers and the rest has only made use realize how STUPID he is to think that we would be stupid enough to care about that BS instead of the issues.

By David

October 16, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

WoW it just neal being neal this the same guy in 2004 who said the night of the election I have seen the projections and kerry will be the new president. Of course something happen in ohio and bush won and neal never spoke on it again so again WoW.

P.S. Many blacks people dont watch BET as much as you may think. Maybe a show but we doing more than sing and tell jokes catch an episode of the BOONDOCKS cartoon and that will tell you the mood of majority of blacks when it comes to BET. Visit Law73DOTcom

By DHD

October 16, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

You folks who don’t support the Fair Tax must not be paying Income Tax. I can understand why you would be against it since you have had a free ride all these years.

99% of the people who oppose it have not studied it. They are like most Americans who allow others to tell them what to do. I don’t even listen to Neal about this. I studied it for myself. What an idea!! Wake up, folks.

By NO way

October 16, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Oedipustax,

Polute??? Is that such a word?

Seems like your private school education cheated you out of one like you eloquently claim about the public school system. Your parents should ask for a refund.

By cityofdecatur

October 16, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

wjones i have done the math and IF everything the unFair Taxers claim were true (and they are not) the government COULD have increased revenues. First todays sales tax is 7% added to the original cost of the product. But is only 6.5% of the total price does that mean we have only a 6.5% sales tax no. The true cost of the unFair Tax is more like 32% of the original cost of an item (only 23% of the total tax + product) so the unFair Taxers start off with a misrepresentation and the slippery slope get even more intriguing from there. If the black market takes as little as 15% off the top * ALL * the ideal calculations of the unFair Taxers go out the window. Google fair tax and read some of the opposition. The problems don’t stop there, the need for a national identity card, the rebate checks, etc. If anyone needs to go home and DO THE MATH * it’s cajones wjones. P.S. your assumptions on my humanely emotional traits is amusing. You are one of those that fall into the system stinks *and ANYTHING MUST BE BETTER another shortsighted bogus ASSUMPTION. And we all known that assumptions make an A* (out of) U & ME. Enjoy life in your Orwellian Cave as this idea is fraught with half baked claims and wild assumptions. It may (to the blind and dumb) look good on paper but, realists can easily see the pitfalls and false promises it purports. Do the math and then take into account how we as Americans will react (history lessons are in order for you now, quick go have someone read to you). I tire of you lame I’m right your wrong attitude and will come back later to read your comments so you can have the last word. (ala your never wrong leader Boortz). Are you in the same cave as Ossama Bin Laden?

By joey

October 16, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Another funy thing about this board:

The nitwits that are frothing at the mouth so much about Boortz, all the time hitting hitting the post button multiple times in their rage. What imbeciles.

By Skeptic Tank

October 16, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Neal says he’s a libertarian, but he’s nothing more than an embarrassed Republican. Check his annual income and then ask yourself what his bias may be in proposing a fair tax. Follow the money, folks.

By the way, Neal, chum up with Saxby all you want. If he beats Martin, there is a ZERO chance that he’ll advance your fair tax legislation. But you know that, too, Neal. You just revel in bashing Democrats.

By cc

October 16, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Most likely Big O brain is too small to understand that if you work and your gross pay is $1,000 that’s what you bring home. I for one want all the money I make and I will decide who or what to spend it on. Not have the government steal it from me to give to some idiot who can add or have Mr. Welfare man give it to some lazy a$% person.

By John

October 16, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Anyone who can upset Boortz is a friend of mine. He is a blowheart who probably doesn’t believe 10% of the garbage he spews. He’s all about making money for himself (see Joe the plumber). I guess the 25-30% Bush backers like him and in a way we need his type to keep us honest.

By cityofdecatur

October 16, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

sorry one last item see if this sounds like the unFair Tax proponents - ………………Demagogy (also demagoguery) (Ancient Greek δημαγωγία, from δῆμος dēmos “people” and ἄγειν agein “to lead”) refers to a political strategy for obtaining and gaining political power by appealing to the popular prejudices, emotions, fears and expectations of the public — typically via impassioned rhetoric and propaganda, and often using nationalist or populist themes. ……………….The early 20th century American social critic and humorist H. L. Mencken, known for his “definitions” of terms, defined a demagogue as “one who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.”

By JJ

October 16, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Jay Leno: “Vice President Dick Cheney was treated, today, for an irregular heartbeat. His doctors aren’t sure what caused it. They figured it was either stress or the sudden drop in oil prices… . Well, doctors now say drinking alcohol may shrink your brain… . Their proof — the last eight years of the White House.”

By cityofdecatur

October 16, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

tried to post this earlier and it didn’t take. so one last thing before i have to go. Does this sound like the proponents of the unFair Tax does to me. ——- Demagogy (also demagoguery) (Ancient Greek δημαγωγία, from δῆμος dēmos “people” and ἄγειν agein “to lead”) refers to a political strategy for obtaining and gaining political power by appealing to the popular prejudices, emotions, fears and expectations of the public — typically via impassioned rhetoric and propaganda, and often using nationalist or populist themes. ……………….The early 20th century American social critic and humorist H. L. Mencken, known for his “definitions” of terms, defined a demagogue as “one who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.”

By Employee

October 16, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

I haven’t earned over $30k in my life and because I don’t have any real exemptions I am owing the IRS thousands of dollars.

How in the world should anyone with my salary owe them anything?

If we had a fair tax in this country it would be better for me. This way I only pay tax on what I choose to purchase. I understand the fair tax and in the lower income sector of American workers.

By JR

October 16, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

I bet I know more about the Fairtax than most of the people that support it. I have read and reread the bill. John said many countries have adopted the fairtax. Give me one country that has. Make sure it has because you will look like an idiot if you say Ireland! Also, do you really think the housing market could survive under the Fairtax? A down payment on a 200,000 house would be around 50,000. How long would take to save up that! And no company will finance a tax and if they did the fairtax would be a tax on a tax. Section 801 of the bill.

By @#%!

October 16, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

Why do people even listen to Boortz? His entire show is complete BS. If you call in to his show, they even tell you NOT to disagree with him on anything! I don’t know how that prick sleeps at night.

By wjones

October 16, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Gotta Ramble on- Fun debating, thanks. Enjoy your Gross profits people.

By Mike

October 16, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

The Fair Tax is nothing more than a dressed up VAT (Value Added Tax). They use this system in Europe. Somehow, I don’t ever recalling hearing anyone say how they wish our economy was more like Europe’s.

Word to the wise…..when a bunch of well-to-do individuals devise a plan that says EVERYONE will pay less, guess who will pay MORE when the plan is finally enacted. Hint. IT AIN’T THEM!

By ATL CPA

October 16, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Boortz is nothing but a Limbaugh/Hannitty wannabe. His fair tax proposal is evidence of his small minded greed and ignorance. Obviously its great for someone who has a very large income to pay tax only on what he buys. Millionaires don’t spend the same percentage of income on clothes and food as do people of more limited incomes. That is why this proposal sounds good to greedy folks like Neal, if its good for them, the hell with everyone else.

Is it good for the economy. Lets see….when prices go up, demand goes down doesn’t it??? So we’re going to depress demand and expect the economy to boom? It’ll boom alright, even worse than it already has.

By JR

October 16, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

I bet I know more about the Fairtax than most of the people that support it. I have read and reread the bill. John said many countries have adopted the fairtax. Give me one country that has. Make sure it has because you will look like an idiot if you say Ireland! Also, do you really think the housing market could survive under the Fairtax? A down payment on a 200,000 house would be around 50,000. How long would take to save up that! And no company will finance a tax and if they did the fairtax would be a tax on a tax. Section 801 of the bill.

By Filster

October 16, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

Want to solve the Fair Tax argument? Just look at your paystub and last year’s tax return. Figure out what percentage of your pay is taken out in SS, FICA, etc. That’s your beginning point. Then look at your tax return, and see how much of a refund (if you got one) you received, and calcutae the difference. I heard Boortz say it was a 23% flat national tax, and the taxes on everything else, investments, capital gains, inheritance, etc., go bye bye. I know I end up paying less at 23% flat, even considering all the deductions I have. No more IRS (which is NOT a governmental entity in case you didn’t know) so billions saved there alone. We pocket out entire paychecks, and government gets money as it is spent and collected. Might even result in all these government agencies actually learning to operate in the black (read that efficiently). And, it would even address the liberal’s class warfare “spread around the wealth” position since Bubba who buys a used pickup for 10000 would pay an extra 2300 but biff, who buys a new 100,000 yatcht pays 23,000. Each pays according to their spending. So, what’s wrong with that (assuming you have acutally done the above calcuations and can comment with some actual reference rather than blithely repeating what some talking head, Boortz or not, tells you).

By ATL CPA

October 16, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

The FAIR TAX is a simple idea proposed by simpletons.

So for them a simple primer in economics.

When prices go up demand goes down.

When demand goes down, the economy sucks.

When demand goes down, and the economy already sucks, Boortz will take his book royalties and go somewhere that didn’t adopt the fair tax.

By ATL CPA

October 16, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

The FAIR TAX is a simple idea proposed by simpletons.

So for them a simple primer in economics.

When prices go up demand goes down.

When demand goes down, the economy sucks.

When demand goes down, and the economy already sucks, Boortz will take his book royalties and go somewhere that didn’t adopt the fair tax.

By ATL CPA

October 16, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

The FAIR TAX is a simple idea proposed by simpletons.

So for them a simple primer in economics.

When prices go up demand goes down.

When demand goes down, the economy sucks.

When demand goes down, and the economy already sucks, Boortz will take his book royalties and go somewhere that didn’t adopt the fair tax.

By charles corley

October 16, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Boortz. What a pile of s**. His military record is ASTHMA. AAmco

By charles corley

October 16, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Boortz. What a pile of s**. His military record is ASTHMA. AAmco

By Glenco

October 16, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

I have been listening to Neal Boortz since I lived at Clarkston in the mid 60’s when he was on WRNG? radio. He’s just a moderator, maybe self absorbed, self serving, but has made a lot of good points over the years. I am neither for or against him. I like to hear him talk. He’s wealthy , his job is secure, so he doesn’t need to worry about whose shoes he steps on. I think he’s a lot better than Imus.

By The Swami

October 16, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

LOL! CPA’s don’t like the fair tax because it will force many of them to stop acting as parasitic by-products of the IRS and get real clients.

If you can’t post an intelligent, factual and reasoned rebuttal, sir, please stop showing your pointy-headed ignorance and admit you’re looking for a way to keep your cushy job.

Mr. CPA, read the book…. then rebuff it if you can. Otherwise, people are going to continue to dismiss you as a moron.

By blah

October 16, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Anybody who calls themself a “Republican” or “Democrat” anymore must be severely lacking in brain cells. Both parties have screwed us to the point where this country is seriously in the s**. I wish I didn’t have to live here under President McCane or President Slowbama, but I’m going to have to.

Sad day. Sad sad day.

By Dan H.

October 16, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Dan H. is a self-loving moron with meaningless opinions.

By Chuck

October 16, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

If I spend 1 million and pay 23% tax on it I’ll pay a helluva lot more than the idiot that makes 60K and spends 60K. However, if someone makes 60K and decides to save 10K then this person will only pay taxes on the 50K he spends (or she for all you feminazis) minus the pre-bate. No one pays taxes, under the fair tax, on essentials up to above the proverty level. And guess what 60K man you are already paying FICA on every penny you make.

By The Alpha Male

October 16, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

ATL CPA, if you’re one-tenth as stupid as your post indicates, please put your shoes and socks back on, put up your Chisembop instruction manual, and learn some basic economics your own self.

One of the benefits of a consumption tax is that manufacturers NO LONGER GET TAXED MULTIPLE TIMES FOR USING RAW MATERIALS! This equates to a cheaper overall cost of product and therefore (am I talking over your head?) **CHEAPER PRICES OF GOODS!!! WHEN PRICES GO DOWN, DEMAND INCREASES, GENIUS!!!

I think the Swami dude nailed you. When the IRS is toast, you’ll have to find a new job. I hope you get smarter before that happens.

By FairTaxBashers HaveNoClue

October 16, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

I have a MS in Econ. Pretty good at math (better than at least 99% of people). Fairtax is the best form of taxation proposed….simple Welfare Economics theory. Taxation is bad for an economy as a whole, income taxes are really bad.

Simple stuff.

By JR

October 16, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

“Read the Book.” WHY? Books are not enacted into law bills are. Read the bill and if you can’t understand it let me know and I will explain to you.

By jmartin08

October 16, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

I’ve read the book.

Do any of you believe that savings produced by the elimination of the business tax will trickle down to consumers?

If so I’ve got eight years to sell you.

By findog

October 16, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

The number one thing about Neil that I have yet to see posted here today is that he is not news or policy he is entertainment. His and the other right/left wing talk shows are entertainment, and like the most of the American entertainment industry; totally devoid of morality, intelect, or factual basis in thought.

By LaShondra

October 16, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

This “fair tax” is just another way for rich white people to make black people pay more of their taxes! I’m glad Obama’s getting into office soon and raising the taxes on all these rich white racists who are trying to keep us down. It’s about time rich people started paying a lot more money—-we need a lot more programs to help the disadvantaged people in this country. Neil Boortz makes millions for spewing all that racist garbage. Hopefully, he gets fired soon!

By findog

October 16, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Radar, Yes between the time of Wahsington and Buchannan, and again Cleveland to Taft, we grew our agricultural culture through consumption taxes. The cliff notes fail to note any other factors in reality. Like say needing a standing army because we can no longer count on the oceans to secure our shores. Or maybe building roads and controling vehicular traffic, let alone air traffic. What would be great would be doing away with the FCC so George Soros could fund liberal radio to drown out Boortz. Anyone who tries to distill the whole history of taxation in America, and how the origional method for funding our national government can be restored, in less than 500-words is a scam artist who missed his calling in Wall Street.

By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST

October 16, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

Saxby did not read the 409 page Bailout Wall Street bill that he voted for but he was assured by Chris Dodd, Barney Franks , and Saxby’s LOBBYIST friends that everything was OK. The Lobbyist gave & Saxby Voted for the Wall Street Bailout. Just Business as usual for our Senior Communist Senator.

By Finddog isanidiottoo

October 16, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Finddog, I guess we better bring up that 65% of all federal revenues (and growing) that go to pay for medicare, medicaid, and social security. Good thing we decided to start those programs, huh?

Plain idiotic. Nothing more than an upside down pyramid scheme.

You could fund all of the remainder of the federal programs including military, judicial, infrastructure, VA benefits, etc, and cut taxes almost 50% if we could get out from under the entitlement programs.

One more thing…businesses don’t pay taxes, people do (meaning consumers and employees).

By Brian

October 16, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

Why does the majority of white America who does not have an AGI of $1.0 million vote Republican. It defies all fiscal logic. Most of you have no business voting for a party that does not have your economic interest at heart. The Party is for the richest of the rich, not JOE PLUMBER, but yet again 60% of the nations population will vote against its own economic needs in November. As long as they continue to breed this us against them mentality you fall for it. Just like the gay marriage thing. How dumb do you have to be to be controlled by fleeting ideals, that make no nevermind. The South has one of the worst education systems in the nation, and yet we are concerned if two ladies can get married. Please do not blame minorities for the plight of the school systems, (North and South Georgia). It’s your kids who will be digging ditches and waitresses at the Waffle House. Third party system is the way to go. This country is fueled by the the haves running over the have nots. The problem is most of the Caucasian Have Nots don’t have enough since to know that they HAVE NOT…… Too Busy acting like you belong to something you can’t even sniff. The median household income in the state of Georgia is $42,000. It aint that many minorities in the state to drive that number that low. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, wannabe Republicans.

By Math Man

October 16, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

The Democrats have it wrong. The FairTax does not add 23% to the cost of goods and services. It adds 30%.

Did they flunk basic arithmetic?

By Thomas Paine

October 16, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

Alan Buckley is a tax lawyer. The Fair Tax would effecitively eliminate the impossibly complicated tax code and put his kind out of work. Creative Loafing also got didn’t get this in an article a few years ago, Mr. Galloway.

By Thomas Paine

October 16, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

Alan Buckley is a tax lawyer. The Fair Tax would effectively eliminate the impossibly complicated tax code and put his kind out of work. Creative Loafing also got didn’t get this in an article a few years ago, Mr. Galloway.

By vlscpa

October 16, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

FAIR TAX—THAT’S A GUT-BUSTER!!

It’s obvious that thousands of folks despise Neal Boortz so much that they hardly know who he is.

I’m sure that the FAIR TAX will be fairer to some than others, except for the fairest of them all. Yeah, that’ll work. Have, like, 30 others responsible for MY tax; that’ll work, except when 10 of them disappear from the radar and are never seen again.

By AtlantaCPA

October 16, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

The fair tax is a fraud—-it will not reduce taxes for anyone except the ultra rich. Plus, it will eliminate a lot of jobs of accountants, IRS agents and tax lawyers, which is not good for the economy—-more unemployment payments, less buying, etc. The government needs to keep the law like it is—-very complicated.

By Robert

October 17, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

AtlantaCPA, your name says it all. Worried about losing all that revenue you get from pushing numbers around for days on end every year just to figure out what your clients need to send in to Uncle Sam for their income taxes?

The FairTax bashers on this post evidently think our current income tax system is the way to go. Well I have news for you guys: the current system is friggin’ BROKEN. As I type this, my bosses are actively engaged in relocating our company offshore. Why? Because of the US FEDERAL INCOME TAX SYSTEM! And who can blame them? The business simply can’t compete with foreign competitors that don’t have the ridiculous overhead the US imposes on its businesses through its 70,000+ page income tax code. Not just the taxes, but the cost of filing them, which is $1 for every $3 collected. Ridiculous!!

So go ahead, AtlantaCPA, keep pushing the status quo. Before long, there won’t be any businesses here left to tax.

By Tom Paine

October 17, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this

Alan Buckley is a tax lawyer. The Fair Tax would effecitively eliminate the need for his services in wading through the impossibly complicated current tax code. Don’t you see a conflict of interest here? Creative Loafing got this one wrong also, Jim.

By Ian

October 18, 2008 3:31 AM | Link to this

The detailed professional research on the BENEFITS of FairTax can be found at Slate Online. A growing number of economists favor a move to taxing consumption (OECD, Kipplinger’s) because of distortions, inefficiencies and expense of taxing income. Dr. Kotlikoff has been warning us that - UNLESS WE MOVE TO FAIRTAX, we’re approaching the point of no return.