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DEL.ICIO.USTalk of Nunn as veep is unnerving some gay Democrats
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
In the vice presidential sweepstakes, Sam Nunn has become a kind of default setting for those mulling Barack Obama’s choices.
David Brooks of the New York Times is the latest in the mainstream media to note that the former Georgia senator would compliment Obama’s lack of experience:
”Sam Nunn and Tom Daschle seem to fit the bill. Nunn is one of those senior Democrats (like David Boren and Bob Kerrey) who left the Senate lamenting the dumbed-down nature of modern politics. Daschle was more partisan as majority leader, but he is still widely trusted and universally liked. As experienced legislators, both could take Obama’s lofty hopes and translate them into nitty-gritty action.”
Again, Nunn says it’s highly improbable that Obama would reach out to him as a running mate. Even so, the speculation has unnerved some sectors of the traditional Democratic vote.
On his blog, gay activist Wayne Besen portrays Nunn as the “crass” force behind the military’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy established in the 1990s:
”For those who don’t remember, candidate Bill Clinton promised to repeal the ban on openly gay service members. As president, he tried to follow through and a national uproar ensued. The opposition from conservative Republicans was to be expected, but Nunn’s fingerprints were all over the bloody knife that protruded from Clinton’s back….
“When it comes to the idea of Sam as Veep, I’m having Nunn of it. Beyond his DADT disaster, the senator’s weakening of Clinton helped enable and propel the Gingrich revolution in 1994 - a huge setback for gay and lesbian equality…..
“[I]t is crucial that Obama’s gay staff members make it clear to the candidate how unacceptable Nunn would be. The campaign shouldn’t even float his name unless it is attached to a runaway blimp drifting towards outer space.”
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By Will Jones
May 29, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
We must learn to think as Jefferson and Adams in their “Post Road Correspondence” teaches us…by factional analysis.
David Brooks is a creation of the late Knight of Malta, uber-Roman Catholic William F. Buckley. He has zero interest in displacing the status quo Roman Anti-Christ Buckley helped take over America…and neither does Nunn.
Jim Webb is the right VP for President Obama.
All we need do is keep the Bushite faction from assassinating him as they did Kennedy and King.
Obama sings America’s Song. We, the People, must make him elect to get about the business of adjudicating and extirpating BushCo’s treason.
www.theamericanfundament.blogspot.com
By Churchill
May 29, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Racsim, Sexism, Homophobia… what is nect for the Democrat Party. The “diversity” in the Democrat Party seems to be divisive. Peace.
By Tom Ga Hunter
May 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
Churchill
Lets have lunch next tuesday at the Rusty Nail, then over to the Pink Pony for a little man fun..That’s if your mother will let you borrow the car but HS is out.. Look foward to seeing you…Bring lots of money ‘cause this country boy don’t come to town often.
By keith
May 29, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
I don’t understand why they feel that way about him. If Obama wants Nunn as his VP, then Obama will pick him. Either way gays are going to vote for democrats any way. They are not going to vote republican that’s for sure.
By Churchill
May 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
Look I made Tom, who claims to be conservative, mad. I am just pointing out that your party, Tom, if rife with all kinds of ism’s. You guys, on the left, have been lecturing conservatives for decades. We have been told how all Republicans are racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobes. But this primary season has shown the world that it is the Democrat Party that is infested with the hate that you accuse us of harboring. Anyway, Hillary is not getting out of the primary. She is going to take this to Denver. Ya’ll have one heckuva problem. The best part of this is the disenfranchisement that your own party is enforcing on its own lib-democrat voters.
Dr. Dean has been one great Democrat Chairman, wouldn’t you say. You guys can hate me, hate Bush, hate McCain all you want to. But your problems are self imposed. It begs the question, if Democrats cannot fairly pick a nominee, can they possibly govern? Peace.
By Tom Ga Hunter
May 29, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
By Churchill
Your mother won’t let you have the car?? Well that’s just as well you have to be over 21 to get in the Rusty Nail & Pink Pony, I thought we would hit a few privite places off Roswell Rd., You do have an engraved 1911 or New Service because you need to be carring a MAN’s gun none of this Glock crap.
By Tom ga hunter
May 29, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
I hate to admit it but Church is right.
By Tom Ga Hunter
May 29, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
By Churchill —-You have figured out how to use the name change feature.. Do you like WOMEN? you know a lot about “gay democrats” are you & Larry Craig personally acquainted?
By Tom Ga Hunter
May 29, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
Churchill did you see this endorcement from your Hero, the owner of FOX??
Kara Swisher and Walt Mossberg had a long day of grilling executives at their All Things Digital Conference. But they saved Rupert Murdoch — their Wall Street Journal overlord — for last. The highlight? Murdoch’s not-quite-but-almost endorsement of Barack Obama for president.
The founder — and defender — of Fox News said he expected Obama to win in a landslide, citing widespread unhappiness with the current administration and his disenchantment with Republican contender John McCain. Murdoch added that after a long career in the Senate, McCain had been forced to compromise too much and doesn’t stand for much. Murdoch even nonchalantly owned up to influencing the New York Post to back Obama in the New York primary.
During the Q&A, I pressed Murdoch — a new U.S. citizen — on whether he would actually vote for Obama in November. He said he was leaning toward it, but would know in the next six months. When I asked if I could call him, he said yes, then joked I could probably just figure it out from reading the Post.
I also asked Murdoch about reports that he said he would buy the New York Times if he had the opportunity, just to shut it down. He said he was kidding, but likely Times staffers in the audience shuddered.
I caught up with Kara of the WSJ and All Things D once they got offstage to discuss her newfound admiration for the outspoken mogul — not to mention Alaskan elk.
By Churchill
May 29, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
Murdoch, like all smart business men is hedging his bets. He also held a fund raiser for Hillary. @ saw where her said that the libs will win big. Msybe,but I have hope that the libs will screw it up.
By Tom Ga Hunter
May 29, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
By Churchill
Since your mother won’t let you have her car, can you catch MARTA?
By Mrs. "swill
May 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this
Kinda like letting the waist out on your pants don’t forget to bring home the scratch-off tix Churchy
By Churchill
May 29, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this
Libs are haters. They will not engage an argument. Perhaps, they have no defense. They just rely on name calling. For me, that means I have hit a nerve. I love when libs act like public school educated children. Peace.
By Churchill
May 29, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this
So Tom, you still a “conservative?” Liar!
By Churchill
May 29, 2008 11:45 PM | Link to this
I kick lib butt- if I wasn’t a entrepreneur, married to a interior decorator, with a condo in Florida, who was home-schooled, and enjoys spying on my neighbors, I’d probably find time to enter the theatre of war to kick evil-doer butt, while praising Jesus, and oh yeah libs don’t preach to me about ism’s ya’ll’s the ism’s booyahh
By Churchill
May 29, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this
Look I made the name-stealer mad I’m so clever and bald why lord do I spend my nights eating pudding off my chest lying online about my prowess damn I feel like a woman but I’m CHurchill king of the dip s** ruler of retards in love with cyber-space hiding behind my fear wallowing in fear of blacks, gays, hispanics, and the middle-class..I’m a king must have at least 5k in my 401k yeah I’m big-time
By WackolibHack
May 30, 2008 12:10 AM | Link to this
Libs r dumb i luv bush
By Tom Ga Hunter
May 30, 2008 7:49 AM | Link to this
Churchill
Can you get a note from your mother?? Do you look 21? Did you pass the test or have to go to summer school? Are you going to vote for Saxby “what’s in it for me”Chambliss? Are you old enough to vote?
By WackolibHack
May 30, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
I’m a gay democrat and the only thing that makes me cringe is a thong on a fat man like chuchill
By Alan
May 30, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
Keith, I am a gay male and I am not voting Democrat this year. I also know others like myself who intend on voting for McCain. McCain is a man we can vote for. We’re smart enough to know he is not another four years of Bush. We’re smart enough to know you should not ever take our vote for granted. I can think outside the box and I have no fear of McCain being my President. I know several gay friend over the age of forty that plan on voting for McCain this year. Did I vote for Bush? Hell no. But I will vote McCain. If he adds Rudy to the tucket, plan on many more like myself to cross lines this year. No one should ever assume and take your vote for granted, they have to rean it. There’s a huge difference.
By Tom Ga Hunter
May 30, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
By Alan
Do you know Churchill in a special way?
By Todd
May 30, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
If it is Nunn, I will not vote for Obama.
By WackolibHack
May 31, 2008 1:00 AM | Link to this
Do the McCain train Alan u r a log cabin republican and when you vote for gay-bashers and closet wierdos u vote against your comrades against your best interest so support O’Donnell/Degeneres 2009-infinitude
By Alex
May 31, 2008 1:46 AM | Link to this
Yo, there were like two people who were right on DADT, and that’s Barney Frank and Barry Goldwater. Frank we don’t need on the ticket and Goldwater is dead. If Nunn can salute on Obama’s more progressive policies on civil unions and ending DADT, I think he’s quite a strong choice. If not, to hell with him.
By Boy George
May 31, 2008 2:02 AM | Link to this
Do u really want to hurt me, Do u really want to make me cry…….word
By Michael Wright
June 17, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this
David Boren resigned from the U.S. Senate in 1994. At that time he had two years remaining on this third term. In the preceding year the gay press had begun to out him and accuse him of sexually harassing his male staff members. Go here for scans of publications about Boren in the gay press.