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DEL.ICIO.USSam Nunn lines up behind Barack Obama as best equipped to stop political ‘demonizing, dumbing down’
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Former Georgia senator Sam Nunn, who toyed with the concept of a non-partisan run for president last year, has come down on the side of Barack Obama in the Democratic race for president.
The former senator, considered one of the nation’s preeminent experts on U.S. defense, met with Obama’s foreign policy team this morning.
In a just released statement, Nunn said Obama “will have the sound judgment to put together an outstanding governing team, bringing people together across old boundaries.”
“My own role in this campaign will be as an advisor - particularly in the field of national security and foreign policy,” Nunn said.
Though not a superdelegate to the Democratic National Convention, Nunn carries a good deal of gravitas from which Obama could benefit. As one of their numbers, Nunn could also help reassure conservative Democrats still suspicious of Obama’s position on the left-right political spectrum.
That could matter in Pennsylvania on Tuesday.
Last year, Nunn was a leader in a bipartisan effort that assembled at the University of Oklahoma and decried decades of political clashes that had reduced serious debate to near-cartoonish arguments. Another organizer of the event, former Oklahoma senator David Boren, also endorsed Obama today.
In today’s statement, Nunn struck many of the same themes the pair tackled in Oklahoma:
Based on my conversations with Senator Obama, reading his book and his speeches and seeing the kind of campaign he has run, I believe that he is our best choice to lead our nation. Senator Obama, as evidenced by his words and his deeds, recognizes that:
— We have developed a habit of avoiding the tough decisions and seemingly lost our ability to build consensus to tackle head-on our biggest challenges.
— Demonizing the opposition, oversimplifying the issues, and dumbing down the political debate prevent our country from coming together to make tough decisions and tackle our biggest challenges.
— Solving America’s problems will require difficult choices and sacrifices and leaders capable of considering new ideas from both political parties.
— On foreign policy and security policy, we must recognize that we are not limited to a choice between belligerency and isolation and that we must listen to lead successfully on the key issues facing America and the world.
— Our next president must also recognize that the battle against violent terrorists, while requiring a prudent use of military power, is also a long-term contest of psychology and ideas.
Said Obama on Nunn, in a prepared statement: “Few public servants have done more than Sam Nunn to keep America safe, and I look forward to drawing on his counsel as we work to combat nuclear proliferation and other threats to America’s national security.”
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By Melisa
April 18, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
Many are starting to realize that Obama has been able to weather the political storms so far.. As more endorsement come in from prominant figures, It is evident that he is forming his cabinet as well. Lets see what happens in PA..
By matt
April 18, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
They make a cute couple. Good to knoiw Sam, the defense expert, who in 1991 refused to defend Kuwait now thinks Obama will defend us. Obama is head of the turn and run crowd.
By Edward
April 18, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
I hate to hear that Sen. Nunn has gone senile. When can we expect him to make an official announcement?
By Harvey
April 18, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this
Great move for Obama. Sam Nunn brings credibility to Obama’s candidancy.
By One
April 18, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this
Hot dayum!!!! One more person smart enough to see through Billary’s smoke and mirrors!!!!!! All of that immature drama she’s trying to keep up is hurting her more and more. Keep on showing us your true colors, Billary, we thank you for acting a fool in plenty of time for all the country to see and be disgusted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obama in 08!!!!!!!
By Dawn
April 18, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
Awesome News so close to the Pennsylvania Voting! What a great powerful member for Obama’s Team.
By Alan Ulman
April 18, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
I have described myself as a “Sam Nunn Democrat” for years, and I have never been more pleased to do so than today after reading of his intent to endorse Senator Obama.
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
You have to be pretty extreme to be considered more liberal than Ted Kennedy & John Kerry. How do Obamites think their demigod is going to unify this country if he’s MORE liberal than Gore, Kerry & Billary? That’s a recipe for more divisiveness! I’m shocked and ashamed that Nunn has jumped into the partisan political game that is this election; especially when you consider that if strip away the party label, Nunn is more like McCain. I, and I’m sure many others, have just lost a great deal of respect for our once honorable statesman.
By Medgar
April 18, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
Being one that has never voted a straight ticket and never will, I was an original Clinton supporter due to what I perceived as a lack of experience on the part of Obama. And a sincere belief that a Bush prototype republican will lead the US to a 3rd world country status…economically and socially. Through out the campaign, I have noticed a sense of openess and new approaches to moving the US out of its current state of disarray that only a significant less tarnished and burdeoned leader can deliver. I am confident that if Obama reaches out to the likes of Sam Nunn and others, he can bridge the party lines and move us forward once again. Time for unity!
By Devastator
April 18, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
Sen. Barack Obama is the undisputed Man!!!!
McHillary doesn’t stand a chance anymore.
By Casual Cal
April 18, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Matt, you and Hillary need to both give it up. A change is coming on yes it is and How sweet it is!!!! Get over it!!!
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
By Harvey - April 18, 2008 1:03 PM | Great move for Obama. Sam Nunn brings credibility to Obamas candidacy.
More likely that Sam Nunn loses credibility.
By Steve
April 18, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
THIS JUST PROVES THE OLD ADAGE—YOU CAN FOOL ALL THE DEMOCRATS ALL OF THE TIME!!!
By Brenda
April 18, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Say it ain’t so, Sam. You’re crazier than I thought….you’re supporting a terrorist, muslim and USA hater….my respect for you is “gone with the wind.”……
By Margaret
April 18, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
This is the icing on the cake. Many people respect Sam Nunn. I am so happy!
By RiseC
April 18, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this
I fully agree! When she said she earned every wrinkle on her face, each must count for the endless lies she has made herself known for. Ridiculous!
By Republican Bill
April 18, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
Perhaps Nunn likes Welfare. What is up with that?
We need tax cuts- to pay for this war that win almost won if not for Obama and other guys who dont like the american flag and who say that any american is stupid.
By BPJ
April 18, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
I have been thinking for several weeks now that Nunn is Obama’s ideal running mate. To those who might say, “oh, so Nunn would be Obama’s Cheney?”, I say, yes, if you mean Cheney without the bad judgement, without the obssession for secrecy and executive power, without the contempt for conservation…then yes!
By scribe
April 18, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
Obama is unelectable. When you belong to a church of such hate, you lose middle america.
When you become annoyed, frustrated and petty during a presidential debate when your feet are FINALLY held to the fire, i shudder to think how you will react during a crisis.
I don’t want you answering the phone at 3 am.
By Craig
April 18, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
Ahhh…the settling begins. Those who were not satisfied with either are now having to settle…all solely just for a hope of winning in the fall. Sad for the Dems. Neither candidate is worth anything. Proof is the fact that so many supers held out this long. And now they settle for the lesser of two evils. This shows just how pathetic the Dem Party has become.
By Political Foreskin
April 18, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
Nunn said, “Obama has easily survived pingate, bittergate and pastorgate”.
Heh, heh, he said pastorgate.
By KM
April 18, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
What is so hard for people to understand that in order to get anything accomplished, you have to be able to bring all groups together. Some Democrats call Obama to liberal just because he’s willing to cross party lines for the good of ALL people.
By diddy
April 18, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Great news indeed. Next is John Edwards, then Hillary!
By Phyllis
April 18, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Well, that pretty much settles it with me. I have been waiting for Sam to run for years. If he is backing Obama, as is Jimmy Carter, unofficially at the moment, Obama should be the next President!!!
By diane
April 18, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
I continue in amazement that intelligent people continue to disregard the most capable candidate for the the office of President. Will you post this AJC?
The Colbert skit was a welcomed lightness. On a deeper level; look again. Sen Obama larger than life on the huge screen with his supporters standing by. Sen. Clinton had just played the exaggerated comical role of fixing that screen which I found humorous. This quite frankly IS closer to reality than the media would dare report. No Mr Obama cannot stand the heat in the kitchen—he won;t debate again. He will only appear before his fans.
By the way 2 things—S.C. moved their primary with NO repercussions; Sen Obama won there and IT Counted!! The majority of the 21 debates were with all of the candidates. Clinton and Obama have had only a few one on one and each time; I learn from them.
By Nancy Seagraves
April 18, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
I think that the only reason Sam Nunn endorsed Obama is that he (Sam Nunn) thinks Obama will tag him to be Vice President. Politics as usual. Hillary Clinton is by far the best candidate of the three. Nancy
By Churchill
April 18, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
Hillary will not drop out. She will attempt to steal the nomination in Denver. By the way, did you democrats know that there are 65 “super delegates” that have yet to be named? I think Dr. Deanmento gets to pick them. This super delegate deal seem awfully undemocratic to me.
Are you guys gonna disenfranchise Fl and MI democrats? I haven’t heard anything lately.
By hogleg
April 18, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
nunn -what a disappointment?
By unknowen
April 18, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Wow! well I guess most of you want to see the world come to an end soon…
Obama… Go ahead and vote for him….and see how soon the rest of the United states gets blown away…
DANGER DANGER DANGER…IN THE EYES OF THE BEHOLDER….
By tiff
April 18, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn in my opinion would make a great addition to Barack’s team. No one can doubt Sam Nunn has always been a man of integrity and has served his country well. Sam Nunn has nothing but good intentions in his heart, and is concerned about the livelyhood and well-being of all Americans. And for people to come on this blog and say other wise. I say, shame on you.
By keith
April 18, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
This endorsement by Sam Nunn is the nail in the coffin for Clinton & clinches the nomination for Obama. Also former democratic senator David Boren (D-Oklahoma) another southern conservative democrat also has endorsed Obama. Once the general election gets here Obama is going to moderate his positions in order to appeal to conservative democrats & some moderate republicans. Obama is the future & Clinton & McCain is the past.
By Don
April 18, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Apparently Sam Nunn is over the hill. His family should watch him closely for signs of dementia…he may hurt himself and others. (See Jimmy Carter for another example of this kind of behavior.)
By Tom
April 18, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
Sadly, Sam Nunn has gone the way of Jimmy Carter…. No longer in touch with his roots. The respect I had for him is “Gone With The Wind”. Apparently he was afflicted with the Atlanta-itis.
By Dimocrats For Dummies
April 18, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
I’m sure glad I’m not a Dimocrat. They have absolute NOTHING to choose from for a presidential candidate. Many Dims I know are voting Rep this time, and a lot of the reason is that McCain is a liberal republican. It’s a win/win for Dims.
By Frank R.
April 18, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
Muslim? Brenda, dear, you have just given ignorance a new benchmark.
When propoganda becomes thought, the brain becomes just a placeholder for the bones of the head.
By "J"
April 18, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
To Esteban, Edward, and Matt, You obviously have been out of the country and out of touch with reality for the last 8 years, if you think that another Bush protype is what this country needs. While all the other canidates, including Hillary, have resorted to smear tactics, Obama is the only one that is trying to continue to talk about what’s best for this country to move us out of the sludge state that we have been in for the last 8 years. Once again, some Americans are getting side tracked from the real business at hand by trying to spend valuable time discussing trivial issues such as where a canidate goes to church and who he serves on a board with. If Congress and the powers that be hadn’t spent two years trying to decipher through who Bill Clinton was sleeping with, they probably would have been better able to see 9-11 coming and thwarted it. Now we are suggesting that Obama should have moved his membership if he disagreed with what his minister said in a sermon. How ludicrous is that to think that someone will change their church affiliation every time the minister says something they don’t like. Much of their life would be taken up searching for a “church home.” Let’s get real people. Obama is the only canidate that seems to be willing and have a plan for getting this country out of the hole that has been dug under the present administration. He is the only canidate that is trying to pull people of all races, genders, socio-economic backgrounds, religions, etc. together to be the America that is was originally intended to be: A country of the people, by the people, and for the people. Now Esteban, Matt, Edward, and any one else who thinks like them, go get a life or better yet crawl back under whatever rock you have obviously been hiding under for the last 8 years!
By Bob
April 18, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
It’s now official… there are no more moderate southern Democrats… all Libs.
By Donald
April 18, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Estaban, surely you cannot believe we can be farther apart than we are now under George Bush, whom I suppose you think is a great President. In fact the way this should be viewed is, if your beloved stateman has choosen to vote for Obama, maybe you should rethink your position. Clearly Sam Nunn over the years has been regarded for his intelligence to make wise, counselled decision and I am sure this was not made in a vaccum. But first you must get over the labels for they do nothing but continue the widening void between us. These labels are divised by people who intend to keep us apart and that is what must be understood by those of you whom under any circumstance choose to, first, label people around you. P.S. I will have Sam call you with an apology for having thought different from the unweilding camp in which you reside.
By Fred
April 18, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
Personally I’m tired on the Bush and Clinton Dynastys.
We need new fresh blood and thanks to Sam Nunn for reconizing Obama’s metal.
If I hear from another word about a tax cut from a Republican who wants to match our endless federal deficit to match this endless war, I’ll take a NRA gun to their head.
By Phyllis
April 18, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
Well, that pretty much settles it with me. I have been waiting for Sam to run for years. If he is backing Obama, as is Jimmy Carter, unofficially at the moment, Obama should be the next President!!!
By Phyllis
April 18, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
Well, that pretty much settles it with me. I have been waiting for Sam to run for years. If he is backing Obama, as is Jimmy Carter, unofficially at the moment, Obama should be the next President!!!
By Mark
April 18, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
As a conservative, I alway’s respected Sam Nunn, UNTIL NOW !
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
By Casual Cal - April 18, 2008 1:11 PM | Matt, you and Hillary need to both give it up. A change is coming on yes it is and How sweet it is!!!! Get over it!!!
Is this an example of Obama’s unifying influence? Do you Obamites think it’s going to be one big Koom-Ba-Ya around a burning flag with Oprah, Eckhart Tolle, Ahmadinejad & Castro? I’m afraid you’re sadly mistaken and would be in for a big surprise (and I’m not talking about the tax bill you’d be getting under an Obama presidency). He rhymes real well though especially when he is making fun of hunters, farmers & church goers.
By gia
April 18, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
matt, shouldn’t you be in Iraq fighting instead of sitting at a computer complaining?
By One
April 18, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this
For all of you haters, get over it!!!! You can no more hold Obama accountable for what Rev. Wright said than you can for something stupid your own pastor would say!!! (and trust, most say some really stupid crap!!)
And let’s be real, the Bush’s know (and have know for many years) the Bin Ladens!!! But I don’t see anybody bytching and moaning about that!!!! And his dumb azz is still in the White House!!! I couldn’t care less what that man (Wright) says, Obama has my vote! Billary is a joke, and McCain is Bush all over again!! I would much rather have this man and his high integrity (and intelligence) than that blithering, crying, lying azz Clinton ANYDAY!!!!
Obama in 08!!!!!!!
And all you haters can go KICK ROCKS!!!!!!!!!
By Glo
April 18, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this
AWESOME!!!! Glad to see another Wise One see through Hillary’s mess and come aboard the Yes We Can train. We Believe In Change and that change is Obama. Wouldn’t it be something to have Sam Nunn a member of Obama cabinet. Obama is a smart man and knows he needs people that are smart in subjects he’s not so familiar with YET.
By Seriously
April 18, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
I don’t think the country is ready to elect a woman president, and I don’t think they are ready to elect a black president. There are reasons for this, whether they are good reasons or not. Most people do not like such drastic change.
By Seriously
April 18, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
I don’t think the country is ready to elect a woman president, and I don’t think they are ready to elect a black president. There are reasons for this, whether they are good reasons or not. Most people do not like such drastic change…especially when both candidates have so many skeletons in their closets.
By TruthFighter
April 18, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
Don’t fret America. Our first Black President is not going to repay you for your past sins against us (i.e.Slavery and Jim Crow). GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!
By GA Politico
April 18, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
It really shows how elementary people can be in their remarks..When Barack gets an endorsement/super delegate pledge the comments become quite juvenile on the message boards..You will always see posts that 1) Demean/Devalue the person that endorsed his candidacy. Tagging that person as delusional, out of touch, ultra-liberal and playing politics 2) Attack Barack for his character traits (not his stance on issues) even though millions of Americans or the heavy weight that has endorsed him believes in his integrity and willingness to help bring this country back to greatness 3) He doesn’t have the experience and Hillary is the one that should get the nomination (even though this platform has held no weight in the primary)
By Antineocon
April 18, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
It’s interesting to listen to all these so-called Republican conservatives crying like little babies because a conservative and foreign affairs/military expert Democrat like Sam Nunn has thrown his considerable support to Obama. Do you fools think that the American voter who was somehow brilliant at one time to vote Republicans in office are now stupid for refusing to continue the disastorous Bush-Cheney model of governance? Hello!!!! Go stand at your local gas station and watch the operator continue to change the price per gallon sign. Harry Truman one said, “If you want to live like a Republican, you better vote like a Democrat.” Wake up and smell the increasingly expensive coffee.
By dianne reeves
April 18, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
I’ll bet Don, Tom, Keith, Unknowen, hogleg, etc. are all the same person. Obama is going to win this election, and as usual, you will lie, denegrate, cheat, anything you can do to stop it. Ahh,but you won’t win this one. Obama will!
By al
April 18, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
By Brenda
April 18, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Say it aint so, Sam. Youre crazier than I thought.youre supporting a terrorist, muslim and USA hater.my respect for you is gone with the wind.
Brenda, I’m sure anyone who loses your respect is devastated. Why don’t you let us know what trailer park you live in?
By Thom
April 18, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
THis is great news for Obama! I think Nunn is angling for Sec. of State or Sec. of Defense in an Obama Administration.
By Marques
April 18, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
It is nice for Nunn to endorse Obama, but this does not mean any thing. If you think Nunn can shore up Obama’s problems with voters who are moderate and conservative than you are being naive.
Obama will win the democratic nomination, but he is just another liberal candidate. If you want a liberal president then he is your man.
Nevertheless, it is good for Obama to receive Nunn’s endorsement. He obviously promised Nunn a ticket back into the Washington game. Politics as usual.
www.unfilteredopinion.com
By Jogger
April 18, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
I am kind of surprised. I thought Nunn had more class than then. I mean- Obama has a friend who bombed the Pentagon and another who says GD in church.
Totally surprised.
By Rod
April 18, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
Sad day for us to think that a reputable statesman has fallen for Obama! Another well known Democrat who in my opinion has thrown in the towel. Our country is in for a big fall if we elect a known Muslim from Kenya to our highest office. What a mistake you have made! Go do your homework before you jump! McCain in 2008!
By C. M, Thornton, III
April 18, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
All that work and Obama is still going to lose…
TSK TSK TSK
By GT
April 18, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
I will now look at Obama, wouldn’t have considered him before. This is far reaching, might even swing Georgia away from McCann.
By Ann Marie
April 18, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
THANK YOU, Sam Nunn!!!!! As a 62 year old woman I was looking forward to voting for a good woman for president. We need an intellectually honest leader who inspires us to be better Americans. Hillary Clinton is not that person. I think we have seen what kind of a leader she would be - just look at how her campaign operates - using people’s fear and ignorance to manipulate them. She is so negative and deceitful. I want tobe able to point to children with pride and say - see that person - he/she is our president because she/he is a good person.
By New Canadian
April 18, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
If either of your (Dem.) candidates wins the presidency, I’m moving to Canada.
By Ann Marie
April 18, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
THANK YOU, Sam Nunn!!!!! As a 62 year old woman I was looking forward to voting for a good woman for president. We need an intellectually honest leader who inspires us to be better Americans. Hillary Clinton is not that person. I think we have seen what kind of a leader she would be - just look at how her campaign operates - using people’s fear and ignorance to manipulate them. She is so negative and deceitful. I want tobe able to point to children with pride and say - see that person - he/she is our president because she/he is a good person.
By Oni
April 18, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Loving it!!!! OBAMA 08
By brad
April 18, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
McCann plays for the Braves.
By Barak Muslim
April 18, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
OBAMA will lose PA by at least 10 points. Once more dirt comes out on Obama’s REV Wright, Obama will continue to go down in the polls.
SAM Nunn’s endorsement and 75 cents will buy a dunkin donut.
Didn’t Jimmy “Hamas lover” Carter endorse Barak “Hussein” Obama?
By Geoff
April 18, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
It’s sad when the last of the old line Democrats completely loses his mind. I used to have a high respect for Sam Nunn despite his party affiliation, but it appears he’s committing himself to the same funny farm Jimmy Carter should be locked up on! God help us.
By yelladawg
April 18, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
Since the primary in GA, I have switched my support from Clinton to Obama. I think Obama will make a fine President and I’m happy to see that Sam Nunn has affirmed my decision.
As for you knee-jerks from the Bush-McCain Party, who have screwed the pooch on everything that you’ve touched in the last eight years, we look forward to beating the daylights out of that old crotchety, bipolar, half-strung coot that you’ve nominated. From now on, you people are to be known as the Bush-McCain Party. I hope you’re proud.
By BJ
April 18, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
How bout a Barack Obama-Sam Nunn ticket?
By Joe
April 18, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
This is very surprising as Obama has pledge to work for the repeal of the failed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy since Sen. Nunn none vigorously fought President Clinton’s attempt to lift the ban on gays in the military, which resulted in the institution of DADT.
By Matthew
April 18, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
No, no, no Senator.
Sorry, but I’m not interesting in voting for a candidate that won’t even acknowledge what it is that poses a grave threat to America. Here is a hint, it starts with “Islamofascism.”
By GAConservative007
April 18, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Full McGovernization is now happening on the left. I love it!!!!!
No chance it will swing GA from McCain, GT. What world do you live in?
By jim
April 18, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Well maybe Sam Nunn will find out his opinion means nothing in the state of Georgia. Maybe he can go down to Plains and pick peanuts with Jimmy Carter, sounds like they think alike. Zell will show them what the people of Georgia really think like.
By Herb
April 18, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
I think this means we can pretty well right off that description of Sam Nunn as a “moderate Democrat.” First, Carter embarrasses our state by chatting it up with the terrorists and now Mr. Nunn proves that he’s just another tax and spend, cut and run liberal. What’s next? Roy Barnes to run with Cynthia McKinney with the Green Party?
By Bannister
April 18, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
Please, please don’t let Zell endorse Obama.
By Keeping It Real
April 18, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
Has any one noticed that we are in a global environment where events in Europe, Asia and Africa have direct impacts on what happens in America? In our efforts to increase our wealth, we have fused our economies to such a degree that America is losing power and influence. Yes, we can blow people away remotely but that does not keep them down where they do not fight back. The war in Iraq is slowly destroying our country. We need a president who has world appeal. Bush has no appeal. Nor does McCain. And who in their right mind would believe any thing that Hillary says.
Its Obama who keeps focusing on making America what it should be. The voters can send a powerful message by voting for Obama. Maybe he is the change merchant who can bring we Americans together.
By Geoff
April 18, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
Fortunately for the masses, though Sam Nunn has apparently lost his mind, he still maintains all the charisma of a used dish rag, and most Obama supporters will have no clue who is, or who, and what he used to be…very sad to see him in this lowly state.
By joe black
April 18, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
When will Hillary give it up?
Her only support is among Dems, and she can barely stay in the race for the nomination. Independents and Repubs all despise her… She has no chance in the fall.
No matter really… Obama’s lead is insurmountable. All of these elections are proportional…and:
States that Obama has won with 60% or more of the vote:
Alaska Colorado District of Columbia Georgia Hawaii Idaho Illinois Kansas Maryland Minnesota Mississippi Nebraska North Dakota Virginia Washington Wyoming
States that Clinton has won with 60% or more of the vote:
Arkansas
That’s just another way of saying Obama has a lead that Clinton will never be able to close.
The only question is… Hillary… How long are you willing to attack your party’s nominee? Are you a Democrat? Will you support the Democratic nominee? Or will you do the bidding of a vast, right-wing conspiracy???
By Adam
April 18, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
Instead of attacking Sam Nunn, an honorable statesman who served this State with distinction for several years, maybe his endorsement should encourage you should take a second look at Obama.
For those of you who decry the “liberal media” perhaps you should stop getting all of your news from admittedly biased sources like Boortz or Hannity and do your own research.
Obama is the only candidate who advocates actually meeting with our enemies. McCain wants to continue a solely miltary option and Hillary wants only unilateral capitulation.
Nixon met with Kruschev and Mao and Reagan’s frequent meetings with Gorbachev produced important treaties (i.e. SALT I and II, which Nunn played a huge role in crafting). Those actions did more to end the Cold War than anything else.
Don’t immediately dismiss someone you’ve trusted for years just because he is supporting candidate you don’t want to vote for. If you care about the security of this nation, then do the work to figure out why someone like Sam Nunn supports Obama.
By One
April 18, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
And lets be real, the Bushs know (and have know for many years) the Bin Ladens!!! But I dont see anybody bytching and moaning about that!!!! And his dumb azz is still in the White House!!! I couldnt care less what that man (Wright) says, Obama has my vote! Billary is a joke, and McCain is Bush all over again!! I would much rather have this man and his high integrity (and intelligence) than that blithering, crying, lying azz Clinton ANYDAY!!!!
Obama in 08!!!!!!!
By Political Foreskin
April 18, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn said that Obama “handled pingate, bittergate and pastorgate very well”.
heh heh, he said pastorgate.
By HotRod2
April 18, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
It’s not like, as a Dem, Sam has much of a choice either way…I’m with “New Canadian” on this, we can always elect to move to Canada - at least there’s better healthcare.
By Don
April 18, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
Obama’s numbers won’t change, even though he obviously doesn’t have a clue, based on his weak answers to the challenges from the mainstream media types in the lastd debate. Where he will get slaughtered, numbers-wise, is when he goes up against McCain in the general election debates. When the man is off the teleprompter, he’s lost. Sam Nunn, by the way, is a non-factor, as is many of the past tense politicians. At least, though, he’s not causing problems for all freedom-loving people like that nit-wit, Jimmy Carter.
By keith
April 18, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
People are already trying to paint Sam Nunn as a liberal, but that won’t stick to him. He has worked with republicans throughout his 24 year career in the senate with people such as Barry Goldwater, Richard Lugar, Phil Gramm & Richard Shelby of Alabama on legislation that has benefited the american people & our armed forces. And being from south Georgia & a conservative democrat I’m guessing all of the negative comments are coming from the neo-conservative Metro Atlanta Area transplants who don’t know anything about Nunn’s accomplishments as senator.
By Maria
April 18, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
Wake up if you republicans are so concerned with the state of America you would focus on the fact that this current fool administration has borrowed millions/trillions of dollars from China to fund America. It is public record, so who do you think really owns American. Wake up and ask for them to stop taking money from other countries. Do you think we are a power house now.
By John Q. Public
April 18, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
TO ALL THE OBAMANATION HATERS…GET OVER IT!!
Hillary has proven that the politics of old no longer have a place in America. Republicans are going to find out that their attack politics, name calling, and sheer arrogance (sounds like our current administration) is also OLD POLITICS!! Can’t you hear the ENTIRE nation screaming for Change??!! Or are you that deaf? G.W. aka “Nero” is playing his lute while America is going up in smoke. Bitter is an APPROPRIATE word for everyone one us tired and fed up with the ongoings politically in the country for the last 25 years. I know, because that is almost half my life. Funnier, I would have thought he was not ready to be President. But, he is. He truly is. ANd what’s even more satisfying, is most Republicans and Hillary supporters know it, but because they are afraid to voice their opinons because of the backlash of those who don’t agree they stay quiet. Vote your heart and your mind. This country has to turn around. And for you folks who think that war is glamorous, I’ll say that you have not served or fought in one. Our country has done enough. We won this thing once we removed Hussein. We cannot find Bin Laden (yeah right), and we’re involved in the middle a civil war. That’s not what we’re supposed to be doing folks.
By Oh Mama 4 Obama
April 18, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
I hope others come forward so Obama can win this fair and square and stop the hemmoraghing inflicted by Clinton and her Republinesque politics. I have seen her experience in action and it sounds like Republicans to me: misleading, misconstruing, LYING, negativity, lack of respect, twisting, spinning. If this is the experience she’s bringing, then no thanks. What could other world leaders possibly be thinking about her? No matter how this turns out, Obama has done better than anyone would have expected. He’s just been doing what he has been doing since he came on to the political scene and has remained at all times respectful, if sometimes clumsy with words.
By RonPaulsupporter
April 18, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
I am voting for Ron Paul. Obama is nothing compared to Ron Paul. Ron Paul is the only candidate that loves America. Obama is ashamed of this country and I am ashamed of Barack Hussein Obama. This country will not elect an America-hating Muslim.
RON PAUL 2008
By Tee
April 18, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Once again makin uneducated remarks can make you look like a fool…Sometimes its best not to say anything at all….Obama ( muslim and bombing the US) please wow…you probably look as stupid as those words you wrote….get over it the real problem is a black man getting as close as he has to the white house ….It upsets you huh:-)…dont worry he’s only half black he will fight for all of us….get on board Obama 08…who do you have left McCain yeah right….think this economy is already headed down under hold on tight if McCain gets in ….I bet in 2000 you just loved Bush huh ….:-) what a joke he has been fighting for what ” Oh because his daddy told him to get revenge for him”….yeah …..Bush’s are losers always have been always will be
By Oh Mama 4 Obama
April 18, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
I hope others come forward so Obama can win this fair and square and stop the hemmoraghing inflicted by Clinton and her Republinesque politics. I have seen her experience in action and it sounds like Republicans to me: misleading, misconstruing, LYING, negativity, lack of respect, twisting, spinning. If this is the experience she’s bringing, then no thanks. What could other world leaders possibly be thinking about her? No matter how this turns out, Obama has done better than anyone would have expected. He’s just been doing what he has been doing since he came on to the political scene and has remained at all times respectful, if sometimes clumsy with words.
By Bob Toombs
April 18, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn & Jimmy Carter, two absolute imbeciles ! What an embarassment to Georgia ! Lets just turn the keys of this nation over to the Muslims !
By PaulDawg
April 18, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
I am very disappointed that Mr. Nunn has swallowed the Kool Aid. However, if that inexperienced, war-dove gets elected, our only prayer is that he will surround himself with people like Nunn.
That is, unless this endorsement suggests that Senator Nunn has begun to lose some of his gray matter…….
By J
April 18, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
Nunn will lose his legacy due to this decision. He is adored by rural Georgians and rural conservatives alike. They will not be happy.
By JessVote
April 18, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
To HotRod2, Don’t let the doorknob hit you! Obama 08!
By PlainsGAVoter
April 18, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
It is time to revoke Carter’s passport. I hope the state department does it while he is in crazyland. If he likes it some much he can stay there.
By Fibyone
April 18, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
Thank You Sam Nunn, I really appreciate your ability to see pass all of the nonsense and negativity that has been broadcast lately. I really hope the rest of you with all of the close minded comments be able to open your eyes and see things for what they truly are. Sen. Obama is the only Presidential Candidate that has all of our best interest at heart.
Please look at our current situations: How much did it cost you to fill your gas tank this week, or did you just put in only what you could afford? How will you be able to pay your mortgage with no job (AT&T and Citigroup announce that they are streamlining their workforces and laying off thousands)? How will you pay for your food and heat your homes? Or will you continue to depend on the “CONSERVATIVES” to help you out? Think long and hard before you answer, the right answer will come, let’s just hope it will not cost you anymore than you’ve already lost.
I for one will be voting for Sen. Obama in November!!! YES WE CAN and YES WE WILL!!
By Wade Johnson
April 18, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
What are you thinking???? or are you not thinking at all?? look at Obama’s past record, look at where he is(actually) not what he is telling the gullable public. Hitler was a great spokesman, Lenin was also a great spokesman and there are many not patriotic American citizens who are great spokesmen but can they be trusted with running the GREATEST COUNTRY in the world?? Change for the sake of change could be for the WORST. If he and his wife hate America why haven’t they left to find a better place. Just what does Obama think is better than the USA??? Sam, What are you thinking?? You should understand the need for a STRONG USA MILITARY; or, have you forgotten??
By Cynic
April 18, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Bye, New Canadian! Don’t let the door bang you on the fanny on the way out!
By One
April 18, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Obama is not a Muslim, you idiot!!!! Boy, you haters are really showing your true colors today!!!!!! As Tee said, y’all just can’t stand the fact that a black man is this close to Whitey’s House!!! Well guess what, he’s getting even closer. And WHEN he wins, I hope all of you will pack up and move to another country!!!!! BYE-BYE!!!
By Hillary08
April 18, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
It is Hillary’s turn. Obama should wait for his turn. Hillary put up with all the shame her husband caused. She has earned the Presidency. It is time for a female President. The women of this country must unite and support Hillary. Like I said it is her turn. Sam Nunn is sexist.
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
J & Donald — I still have vivid memories of 9/11 watching live as an airplane slammed into the World Trade Center. If I err, it will be to the side of caution and security for my family and fellow citizens. I don’t want a President, current or former, who will go have tea with a terrorist thus providing them with a photo-op and some feigned credibility (which Mr. Nunn has just provided Obama). And, note, as you slam our President that your beloved Democratic controlled congress which promised the same types of change as Mr. Obama (and of which he is a member) has a LOWER approval rating than Pres. Bush.
J — you’ve exposed your ignorance in your comment about the Republican Congress missing 9/11 because they were investigating Billy - that depends on what the meaning of “is” is - Clinton; the 9/11 report shows that he had clues to Obama’s, oops, I mean Osama’s plans to attack us. But, truly, who could have possible guessed this tragedy? We were ALL attacked — Democrat, Republican, Independent, Jew, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Atheist. Like it or not (there are lots of Monday Morning Armchair Quarterbacks around), Bush had the cajones to react with strength which was unilaterally supported by both parties. Convenient for Obama that he wasn’t serving yet and for Hillary who has flip-flopped on her stance.
Donald — I do think George Bush is a great president because he’s made tough decisions during one of our country’s darkest periods — he didn’t waffle or go out side & smoke a cigarette (which Obama is likely to do). Bill Clinton was a great president, as well — in spite of being a liar (he should have just told the truth from the beginning and gotten on with the business at hand) — our economy saw it’s greatest growth in history while he was in office. Jimmy Carter has recently confirmed my doubts about his greatness.
Finally, the most divisive comments I’ve seen on this board have been from Obamites who, one minute are swaying in a big group hug about how he will be the first president ever to unite this country (yeah right) and the next minute are telling anyone who disagrees with them to “Kick Rocks” that they are “Haters”, need to “get over it”, and “shame on you”, that we need to “crawl back under” our rock, that you’re going to “take a NRA gun” to our head, that we’re “crying like little babies”, that we’re “fools”, that we live in a trailer park, and that we’re “knee-jerks”. If this is the kind of “unity” I can expect with Obama, I think I’ll just stick with my moderate/conservative group of friends who are proud of this country; who aren’t ashamed to say the Pledge of Allegiance; who think that, regardless of the “right to choose”, abortions need to be reduced not increased; taxes are generally too high and don’t need to be increased on anyone, rich, poor or dead; that the American flag should be protected, especially when heroes like John McCain suffered for it, (and you and me); who support our troops who are in harm’s way with our prayers, votes, money and whatever else they need to do their job; who don’t think it’s a good idea to teach 2nd graders that homosexuality is a valid life choice (much less any type of sexuality) — something which Obama has voted for.
Bunch of hypocrites.
By Albert
April 18, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
I just had to repeat this previous comment….well spoken and I agree 100%: “Sam Nunn in my opinion would make a great addition to Baracks team. No one can doubt Sam Nunn has always been a man of integrity and has served his country well. Sam Nunn has nothing but good intentions in his heart, and is concerned about the livelyhood and well-being of all Americans. And for people to come on this blog and say other wise. I say, shame on you.
By doggirl
April 18, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
Nunn was one of a very few democrats that I’ve ever really respected. Now I have one less on my list. How is it that supposedly educated people are so easily snowed by a man so empty of any ideas and the ideas that he does have all revolve around taking money from one group of people and giving it to another, believing that the purpose of tax revenue is not to run the country but to punish people who have worked harder to have more.
By Doggie
April 18, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
Those hating Obama because of wright may have caught their mom with someone who looked like Wright and can’t let it go.
You southern inbred conservatives what has the republican party done for you?
The south is the poorest, least educated, highest infant mortality and with the worst health facililites in the US. Much worse than many third world nations.
You need to think about the future and forget the past, unless you want feel the sword of Gen Sherman up in your arse!!!
By yelladawg
April 18, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
The Bush-McCain Party knee-jerks have no ideas and no vision for the future. All they can do is use lies, scare tactics, and voodoo economics to flush the country down the drain and then look around and try to blame Jimmy Carter (who has had no policy making responsibility in 28 years — he’s just been doing good works); lie about Obama being a muslim when everybody who can read knows that he is a christian (Oh, I forgot the knee-jerks don’t read, they listen to the druggie and the fascist radioheads); and trash Hillary (who does not stand a snowball’s chance in hell of winning the nomination).
The Bush-McCain Party knee-jerks are terrified of Obama, no matter what they write on these blogs.
By amazing
April 18, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
FU SAM NUNN/ FU OBAMA/ OBAMA IS NOT ABOUT UNITING. HIS IDEA OF UNITING IS MAKING ALL GOOD CONSERVATIVES PAY FOR HIS SOCIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCEPT THE IMMORAL STACNE OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. FU TO ANYONE WHO VOTES FOR OBAMA.
By Lc thomas
April 18, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Time to send jimmy Carter and Sam Nunn officially addmitted to the full care Alzheimers Facility.
JEC, what Irony! week leading to Passover-Modern Day Judas?
By Political Foreskin
April 18, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn said he though Obama handled himself well during pingate, bittergate, and pastorgate.
heh heh heh, he said pastorgate.
By Political Foreskin
April 18, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn said he though Obama handled himself well during pingate, bittergate, and pastorgate.
heh heh heh, he said pastorgate.
By Political Foreskin
April 18, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn said he though Obama handled himself well during pingate, bittergate, and pastorgate.
heh heh heh, he said pastorgate.
By Frank Meyer
April 18, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
It seems with are still looking at presendtial candidiates from the Democarts who are superficial, anti-religion, pro-abortuonist, pathlogical liers, and totally unfit to lead this country.
By tONE
April 18, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn’s reputation is beyond reproach; and, the fact that Sen. Obama reached out to him and had his team sit down with Sen. Nunn tells you all you need to know about how Obama will govern. Its time for Dems to rally around the obvious nominee and win this thing. McCain doesn’t even have enough money to win a general election, has not articulated a vision for the country and isn’t particularly inspirational.
By Fidel Castro
April 18, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
I look forward to working w/comrade El Presidente Obama, and old friends such as Jimmy Carter and Sam Nunn.
Viva, Che !
Viva, Revolucion !
May the Obama administration and wealth redistribution begin !
By Joyce
April 18, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
Disappointment. I had thought Nunn was higher up than that. I can’t help but think the Obama crowd is doing something underhanded to get these people to endorse him. Some have said he’s a blank slate and we don’t know him. I have a gut feeling he’s bad news. Same feeling I had back when Nixon ran. Couldn’t vote for him…felt really scared of him…same way I feel about Obama and his “mean” wife. I can’t picture her as first lady. She runs roughshod over anyone who gets in her way. They’re both UNAMERICAN!
By michelle
April 18, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
it is deeply disturbing to read some of these comments….i only got as far as this brenda-idiot who said, “Say it aint so, Sam. Youre crazier than I thought.youre supporting a terrorist, muslim and USA hater.my respect for you is gone with the wind.
i mean seriously!! are you THAT stupid? do you believe EVERYTHING you hear ONCE? barack obama is CHRISTIAN. because he doesn’t wear an american flag lapel pin to fit in with the rest of the fake-i’m patriotic when we get attacked at home-crowd, he’s a terrorist or america-hater?!?!?
you people make me SICK. absolutely SICK.
carry on, sheeple of fox news. carry on.
By mike blueinred
April 18, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
Shows Nunn sees the absolute lunacy of McCain’s positions as a Bushite. My respect for our former senator has increased by a couple of gigs.
By Gigi
April 18, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
So Sam backs Barack Hussein Obama. Now we know who Sam really is.
By Smyrna 12
April 18, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
You’ve got to be kidding. Lost all of my respect for Senator Nunn. And somebody please tell President Carter to sit down and shut up.
By mikedarwin
April 18, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Shows Nunn sees the absolute lunacy of McCain’s positions as a Bushite. My respect for our former senator has increased by a couple of gigs.
By Don
April 18, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Whoa, Doggie!
Sounds like you don’t like it around here. Remember this, Dawg, Greyhound and Delta are leaving and going to other parts of the country every hour. Why not try Michigan, Ohio or some other part of the Rust Belt? Oh, I forgot. You can’t get a job up there. The jobs are all in the Southeast. Too bad, cause it looks like you’re going to have to learn to like it here.
And yelladawg, get a clue. Jimmy Carter was a terrible president and a worse ex-president. He’s made trouble for Democrat and Republican presidents alike. About the only thing he’s really good at is hammering nails for Habitat and teaching Sunday School in Plains.
Hint: It isn’t Bush-McCain. It’s common sense, not to want to elect either of these two sad excuses for Americans, president.
By moe
April 18, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
Obama will be the next President. It is time for a change in the USA.Stop judging by color!It’s only one higher power and that’s GOD.I thank God for using Obama’s Spirit.People we all come from Africa the riches country on earth.So that mean we are all african American.Yes, white people to.Read the bible if you want to know your real history.Start: Gen 1:1.You can’t get that in school.
By Middle America
April 18, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn a moderate to conservative Democrat with huge national security/defense creditials supports Obama.
Michael Bloomberg a well respected man on economics and a potential candidate himself as an independent has passed on a run and has introduced Obama at a speech.
Warren Buffet regularly has dicussions with Obama on economic issues.
Colin Powell, a huge figure on the defense/national security/foreign policy stage from Republican administrations, has stated his appreciation for the way Obama handled himself.
That’s a great list of people to have hold you in high regard. They all stand in the middle, not the left or right. Obama is the person who should be our president.
By Gigi
April 18, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
So Sam Nunn’s backing Barack Hussein Obama. Now we know who Sam really is.
By One
April 18, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
Hillary put up with all the shame her husband caused. She has earned the Presidency. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, now that’s the funniest and dumbest shyt I’ve read all day!!!! SO, because her husband cheated and she stayed with him, she should be President? Now that’s DUMB!!!! Why would America want someone for President who can’t even keep her man faithful?!!! NO THANKS!!!!!!
And for all of you worried about Obama’s affiliations, look at it this way. If Dubya and his family could hang out with the Bin Ladens and no one care, why in he!! would we care about this non-issue (Rev. Wright)?!!!! Ya’ll so stupid!!!!!
By RonPaulsupporter
April 18, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
Obama is Hitler!!!!! Wade is right. Vote for Ron Paul he is the only candidate that can beat McCain.
By Diana Powell
April 18, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
WOW!! Awesome and what a great move God is doing and showing the world that He is in control. Obama is the man for the job and God has him right were He wants him to be for a time such as this, God knows what we need and He is going to give us what we have been asking and crying out for. It’s sad that these people put stuff on him that he didn’t say himself, but what about Bill and that women? Nobody wants to talk about that and Obama has that much respect for Hillary as a women that he want even bring it up. What a respectful man. I’m asking for everyone to pray and ask God to show you what’s best for the people and really hear what your spirit says about the matter. Be blessed.
By One
April 18, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
And let’s jut be real for a change. We know that all of you trashing Obama is more upset with the color of his skin than anything else!!!! Racist idiots!!!!!!!
Now I’m leaving because this trash is not even worth reading!
Obama in 08!!!!!!!
By Copyleft
April 18, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
Yes… a patriot.
And, like Obama, a winner.
Get used to it, suckers! Neoconservatism is dead, and Bush is holding the smoking gun. Go whine at HIM for your defeat.
By One
April 18, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Before I go, let’s look at the ugly cycle………
Bush…..Clinton……Bush…….please Lord, not another Clinton. This vicious cycle MUST be broken!!!!!
By rb
April 18, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Brenda, You must believe everything you read. You are sounding ignorant my child; Muslim, USA hater. The media can easily convince you with anything. Way to go Sam Nunn. Everybody else better get with the program and stop hating. Time for a change and the change is now.
By T-Bone
April 18, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
I applaud Sam Nunn’s decision. A man of his vast political experience and foreign policy knowledge embracing Obama over the Clinton-machine is impressive. Unfortunately, given the majority of the comments on this board, Georgia will continue it’s hard swing to the right when the balance of the country is moving back towards the middle. Following the election of Obama in November, Georgia will have little, if any, influence on the national political scene with its republican-dominated legislators. Neo-cons, continue to embrace your empty cliches and platitudes while the rest of us get on with repairing the damage that the past 8 years of this criminal and imcompetent administration has done to this country.
By Duke
April 18, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
Ever since Sam Nunn started working towards a North American Union, any candidate he endorses is poison in my book.
By marcus
April 18, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
finally….. some clarity to this b.s. i am sick of “miss piggy” and her oft-handed remarks. she has done nothing but sling mud from the troth that she wallows in. the only experience she has is lying, lying and being married to a confirmed, convicted liar. we need a new direction; but it sure can’t be mcclain. we’ll be in the middle east forever if we stick with that drunk. do you really want the same two families controlling the government for the next 8 years. hillary is a joke, she thinks she is entitled to the presidency because she hung around while bill made a fool out of her. that’s nothing anyone would want on their resume. she talks about obama being elitist; the swine and her hubbie made over 100 million dollars during the bush presidency. no telling how much of that was for “amnesties” they arraigned. head back to razorback “billary” we’ve had enough.
By For real
April 18, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
I didnt know that Georgia had so many dumb people.
FACTS 1. OBAMA IS NOT MUSLIM HIS DAD WAS.RAISED AS A CHRISTIAN BY HIS WHITE MOTHER. 2. HE IS NOT FROM KENYA IF HE WAS HE COULDNT BE PRESIDENT STUPID.
OBAMA IN 08!!!!!!!!
By T-Bone
April 18, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
I applaud Sam Nunn’s decision to endorse Obama. A man of his extensive political experience and foreign policy knowledge siding with Obama speaks volumes. Unfortunately, given the majority of the comments on this board, Georgia will continue to swing right when the country moves back to the center. What influence Georgia had on the national political scene will be gone with the contingent of right wing republican legislators sitting thru an Obama administration and democratically-controlled congress. The empty right-wing cliches and platitudes are sad really. Move over and let us get on with the job of repairing this country after the damage done by 8 years of this corrupt and incompetent Bush Administration.
By Doggie
April 18, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
Don,
R U american? :-)
Doggie
By GAConservative007
April 18, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
2 to 1 odds that McCain beats either Hillary Rotten or Obama. Any takers?
By Mike
April 18, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
I am very disappointed in Sam Nunn, he is an old acquaintance of the family. I use to think that he had conservative values, but not any more.
By Mike
April 18, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
I am very disappointed in Sam Nunn, he is an old acquaintance of the family. I use to think that he had conservative values, but not any more.
By Don
April 18, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Doggie,
As American as apple pie, Chevrolet and Coca-Cola!
Also, my military credentials are in order. I served in the U.S. Army in Europe.
Raised a yellow dog Dem who saw the light after voting for Bubba the first time and losing faith when I watched all his sycophants get on TV and say, “It’s all about sex!”, even though he lied to a Grand Jury.
I lost my taste for Dem Kool Aid after that.
By rayray
April 18, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
I am a life long Democrat and somewhat liberal. And to those who think every Dem is a liberal and ever Republican is conservative, well you are a retard. Sorry, I had to get that off my chest. Anyway, Hillary would have had my vote if she beats Obama. Now, there is no way I will vote for her. I cannot stand that woman(if she were a man I would have refered to her as “man”. I am not a misogynist) and I now know what all of those who disliked her were thinking. She is most certainly the worst candidate I have ever seen within the Democratic party. I have no respect for her and have lost any good feeling I had for Bill. I wish they would take their three ring circus elsewhere. Simply terrible.
By Charlotte McCarthy
April 18, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Shame on you, Sam Nunn. This is going to be a disaster and I don’t understand intelligent people like yourself backing a neophyte, unproven and untamed. My support is, has been and will be with Hillary Clinton. If that fails, I will be a McCain supporter in the general election. Shame, Shame.
By Georgian
April 18, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
Maybe Obama will take some money from Sam & Ted - it just isn’t fair that they are so rich too.
Obama is a socialist / borderline communist. He and hillary should both be feared by anyone who loves liberty and freedom.
Sad to see Sam is getting very liberal in his older age.
By American
April 18, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
DEPORT ALL MUSLIMS !
SAY NO TO BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA !
THE USA WILL NOT BE AN OBAMA-NATION !
By Chris
April 18, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
I think some of the comments left sum up the exact reason as to why this country is in shambles. Brenda-Get your facts straight, Obama is a Christian probably just like you. When did it become the statement of patriotism to wear a tiny flag probably mass produced in China? I find it absolutely hilarious that the jaws of “good ol boys & girls” of America are dropping to the ground along with the nooses in their hands at the fact that a Black man could possibly be president. Correction-Bi-racial man..yes he is half white too..go figure!! They’ve been getting fatter as the middle class disappears dividing this country to a point of national dispair and resentment. McCain politics? Are you as crazy as you are selfish? I hope not.
By alan
April 18, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
* Sam’s decision alone to come back into active politics is in itself good for America ! America needs people like him with real integrity and real EXPERIENCE, not the yahoos we have been dealing with for 7 years now. If chosen, Obama’s cabinet will be quite strong consisting of people with impressive resumes. Good move, Sam !! *
Alan
By Clay
April 18, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn was always overrated. Now he is overrated and senile.
By James
April 18, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Let the attack begin!!!
By Don
April 18, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
Middle America:
A little lesson about liberal/ conservative;
*Sam Nunn is a non-influential guy, who’s been out of the picture for a long time *Michael Bloomberg is a Dem, who changed parties to get elected in NYC. Not a big fan. *Warren Buffet makes true conservatives laugh with his crazy-old-man ideas about about the death tax. Like Ted Turner, he’s a great moneymaker with odd ideas for our country. *Colin Powell, although a great American, is not exactly someone whose opinion I value anymore.
I’d feel better about Obama if…
*Zell Miller supported him *Rudy Guiliani supported him *Jack Welch supported him *David Patraeus supported him
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
By Georgian - April 18, 2008 3:39 PM | Sad to see Sam is getting very liberal in his older age.
It’s moving back to Atlanta — the entitlement (liberal corruption) capital of the South
By Jonathan
April 18, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
I have a lot of respect for Senator Nunn’s decision. I would love to see him as the new Secretary of Defense. Based on his decision, I am going to vote for Mr. Obama.
By so disappointed in sam nunn
April 18, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Sam, how sad that is…I have held you in high esteem over the years, but the OBAMA deal ends that for me. Obama is only a smooth talker, no substance. Never got anything done in Congress. Matter of fact, after the Democrats took over the Congress in 2006, check their record. Don’t blame it on the President, he’s not making the laws, its the liberals who now are in control of congress since 2006. All we need is another liberal in the White House. Democrats=Welfare..Rob from the middle class to pay the way for those who dropped out of school and walk the streets. Maybe Jimmy Carter can introduce him to some more terrorists….We don’t claim Jimmy in Georgia, and wish he would relocate….
By fourtsmom
April 18, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
As a former Georgian I was proud to have Sen Nunn as our Senator even though I am a registered Republican. He has sure disappointed me now.
By Jace
April 18, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
I am pleased that Mr. Nunn is endorsing Sen. Obama. It is, indeed, good news! I find Brenda’s comments disturbing. Sen. Obama is NOT a Muslim, he is a Christian, he is no terrorist and he certainly doesn’t hate the United States.
By Kev23
April 18, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
Brenda, *I feel sorry for you! You must live in some trailerpark that doesn’t have access to the rest of the world. *
The fact is that Obama was born in the US, raised in the US, and is willing to levy taxes on the rich so that people like you can get an education.
Ignorance was theme of Bush’s term and obviously it has worked well.
By TW
April 18, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
The name ‘Sam Nunn’ carries the same punch with the dems that ‘Dick Cheney’ did with the GOP back in 2000…before he ruined his name by trashing our country.
By RonPaulsupporter
April 18, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
Ron Paul is the only candidate that truly believes in hope and change. Ron Paul has an exciting message for this country. Ron Paul is our only hope!!! McBama/Hillary will ruin this country. If you want real change vote for Dr. Ron Paul.
By LeRoy Jackson
April 18, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
Prez’dent Obama.
I be look’in fo my slave’ry repa’rations check from da guv’mint.
No whut I’m say’in.
Down wit Y-T
By obama-ite
April 18, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
Guys, we know Obama’s middle name is Hussein. We know that his pastor of 20 years made some controversial statements. If you are being honest with yourself, you know that he wasn’t being elitist with the bitter comments he made and was speaking the truth. When you throw around words like un-American, Muslim, southern conservative and express so much anger, it reeks of racism. I would have a hard time believing there would be so much anger shown if he was a white candidate. I believe that we all (no matter the color) want the same things in life. Fairness, equality, pursuit of happiness, etc. We all know that up to this point, in some people’s eyes, all of us were not created equally. I believe that is what Obama stands for and it seems that many of you are threatened by that. He is representing a change in the status quo, it seems as though alot of you are happy with the way America is run today. Are you really?
By atwebb
April 18, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
The tide is slowly turning. What you once thought to be true can only be false and what you once thought to be false can only be true. CHANGE WHEN IT COMES CRACKS EVERYTHING OPEN. - BARACK OBAMA IN 08, CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN
By Doggie
April 18, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
You conservatives.. Let me tell you something. God and guns haven’t gotten you anywere.
I bet when you wake up in the morning and look in the mirror you like the beast you see!!!
Your idealogy is even uglier.
Now dinner time is approaching so go back to your trailers and eat the expired meatloaf and whatever the hell you eat.
For a change, dont wear the wife beater shirt today!!!!
By RonPaulsupporter
April 18, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Ron Paul is the only candidate that supports real change. Why would this country elect a Muslim??? Or a shrill witch???
By Cynic
April 18, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
Once again, ignorance, selfish,”I-got-mine, F*%# everyone else” economics and fear-mongering masquerading as conservatism.
By BritAmerican
April 18, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
Liberals hate this country. They hate Christianity. They hate capitalism. They hate traditional values. Nunn can go shag himself. Obama is not ready to lead a parade, let alone the country. Did you hear his comments on the Capital Gains tax? The man hasn’t the slightest idea what he is talking about. He ideas are pure Marxism.
By President Obama
April 18, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
Secretary of State: Jesse Jackson
Secretary of Defense: Al Sharpton
Secretary of Treasury: Snoop Dog
Secretary of Education & Ebonics: Michael Vick
Secretary of Happy & Goodwill: Oprah
Secretary of Interior: Louis Farakkan
If its white, it ain’t right !
Its payback for 400 years of slavery, racism, Jim Crow, lynching, segregation, and Reagan-Bush !
By John
April 18, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
I have lost every bit of respect for Sam Nunn. I never had any for Jimmy Carter. Thank you Lord for being in Control. This nation cannot stand another Clinton or Carter in the White House. Guess what type of judges would be appointed to The Supreme Court!! Lord, Please help us!
By slg
April 18, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
I once had utmost respect for Sam Nunn. But after this endorsement, I have zero respect. How can such a statesman as Sam Nunn do such a follish and may I say a stupid mistake to do such a thing. Loyalty to one’s party should be cause to break rank when such an inexperienced person is about to be put on the ballot. I am extremely disappointed in Sam Nunn!!!!
By slg
April 18, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
I once had utmost respect for Sam Nunn. But after this endorsement, I have zero respect. How can such a statesman as Sam Nunn do such a follish and may I say a stupid mistake to do such a thing. Loyalty to one’s party should be cause to break rank when such an inexperienced person is about to be put on the ballot. I am extremely disappointed in Sam Nunn!!!!
By slg
April 18, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
I once had utmost respect for Sam Nunn. But after this endorsement, I have zero respect. How can such a statesman as Sam Nunn do such a follish and may I say a stupid mistake to do such a thing. Loyalty to one’s party should be cause to break rank when such an inexperienced person is about to be put on the ballot. I am extremely disappointed in Sam Nunn!!!!
By slg
April 18, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
I once had utmost respect for Sam Nunn. But after this endorsement, I have zero respect. How can such a statesman as Sam Nunn do such a follish and may I say a stupid mistake to do such a thing. Loyalty to one’s party should be cause to break rank when such an inexperienced person is about to be put on the ballot. I am extremely disappointed in Sam Nunn!!!!
By slg
April 18, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
I once had utmost respect for Sam Nunn. But after this endorsement, I have zero respect. How can such a statesman as Sam Nunn do such a follish and may I say a stupid mistake to do such a thing. Loyalty to one’s party should be cause to break rank when such an inexperienced person is about to be put on the ballot. I am extremely disappointed in Sam Nunn!!!!
By Cy Brown
April 18, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
I think Sam Nunn has been smoking some of the crack rock from the Chicago Southside that all of these other Obama fanatics have been smoking….I definitely think he has lost his mind! God help us! No worries, though…Nunn is a has-been and will have zero impact on this election!
By Uncle Sam
April 18, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
extract the cancerous Muslim tumor from this continent. Use our own oil resources, put Americans to work, and let the sand n*ggers turn to dust
By Cy Brown
April 18, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
Everyone knows Sam Nunn doesn’t like the Clintons….big surprise! I agree with the other posters….get ready for a renewed cry for slave reparations and every other free-loading handout looking for a government handout coming out of the woodwork, if, God forbid, Osama gets elected! Wake up America!
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
By obama-ite - April 18, 2008 4:00 PM | He is representing a change in the status quo, it seems as though alot of you are happy with the way America is run today. Are you really?
What change? Making it easier for underage girls to get abortions without their parent’s consent? Raising my taxes? Giving the world a view that the US is weak and open to attack? Condoning the words of hate spewed by his spiritual mentor? (By the way, blow it off all you want but Obama has been quite clear that Wright is the person responsible for “turning his life around” and to whom he has gone to for advice and guidance for the past 20 years). Making it easier for illegal immigrants who are convicted of violent crimes to become American citizens? Giving 3/4 % of the US Gross Domestic Product away in foreign aid?!
These are all items, on the record, that Mr. Obama supports.
Don’t be like lemmings rushing to the sea on the Obama bandwagon. Find out what he’s really about before you pledge your devotion to him. Don’t forget 9/11 — we need a president that will make terrorists say “Oh, sh*t!” because they know he won’t back down from them. Obama wants to join Jimmy Carter in embracing those who want nothing more than to see us (Americans) all die. Remember the pictures after planes slammed into the World Trade Center of the radical muslims dancing in the streets with joy over the death of the “infidels.” Obama wants to have coffee with Ahmadinejad who says the Holocaust is a myth and that Israel should be “wiped off the map.” Ahmadinejad has stated that the 9/11 terrorist attacks are questionable, doubting the death toll and refusing to condemn the terrorists who carried out the attacks. Obama wants to break bread with this murderous snake.
By Cynic
April 18, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
John:
You scare me.
By Jesse Jackson
April 18, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
Capitalism and western culture have not given most African-Americans a positive experience.
Slavery Reparations and wealth redistribution will give us a sense of pride and wholeness in the American experience, making us feel welcome on his continent after 400 years of slavery, racism, Jim Crow, lynching, segregation, and Reagan-Bush.
I wholeheartedly endorse Barack Obama in his quest for he presidency, and look forward to working within his administration.
By Jesse Jackson
April 18, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
Capitalism and western culture have not given most African-Americans a positive experience.
Slavery Reparations and wealth redistribution will give us a sense of pride and wholeness in the American experience, making us feel welcome on this continent after 400 years of slavery, racism, Jim Crow, lynching, segregation, and Reagan-Bush.
I wholeheartedly endorse Barack Obama in his quest for he presidency, and look forward to working within his administration.
By MRS
April 18, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
This is totally refreshing! The media does the hype but people are really tired of the same crap every 4 yrs. I’m looking for change and want that for my children. The dumbing down of a society won’t happen..
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
By Doggie - April 18, 2008 4:11 PM | You conservatives.. Let me tell you something. God and guns havent gotten you anywere.
Ever hear of the Revolutionary War? Hint: it’s how this country was founded…
By Patricia A Drake
April 18, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn WhaT the hell are you thinking?
By ray
April 18, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
i would vote for a black, homosexual, crack addict before i voted for another white man with an ‘R’ next to his name. white men of this country ought be furious at the republicans for making them look like a bunch of idiots.
reparations for blacks would have been less costly than this joke of a ‘war’ in iraq.
By michelle
April 18, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
one more thing…..you ron paul supporters..
i’ve seen 3 or so posts from people who claim that mccain can be beat by ron paul. i don’t know what primaries y’all voted in or were watching, but mccain won the republican nomination that ron paul was competing for. how in the world is he going to win a presidency running against the republican who previously beat him?
and i’m a ron paul supporter, i just realize that the game is over.
By Churchill
April 18, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Good luck with that Michelle. Logic and reason mean nothing to Ru Paul supporters.
By Lee
April 18, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Doggie - spoken like the ignorant person you are. talking trash about the south shows 1. that you’re a racist. 2. You don’t know anything about the south only what you’ve heard. 3. ever hear of Emory University Hospital, Piedmont Hospital? 2 of the finest facilities anywhere in the country 4. still think the war between the states was about slavery and not states rights 5. that a northern state was the last to release the slaves 6. we are thinking about the future, one without racism and put downs 7. now go study your AMERICAN history
By Nick Morrow
April 18, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this
I think Obama is the real-life Manchurian Candidate!
By BRAVES~NATION!
April 18, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn has lost his mind - and integrity.. SHAME!
By BRAVES~NATION!
April 18, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
ray- you are the only IDIOT!!!! you have to be - you are a whining democrat loser - coward!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By RonPaulsupporter
April 18, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
Ron Paul can still win. Write him in, Michelle. Ron Paul is the only one for you to support. Don’t give up. Some states have not voted and Ron Paul is on those ballets. We just have to believe.
By Charles
April 18, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this
I used to respect Sam , then I remembered that he endorsed Jimmy Carter , now this .
By George
April 18, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this
I always respected Sam Nunn as a man who put country ahead of party. No more! While Barack Obama’s speeches are “music to some ears”, his resume and experience are totally empty. If a board of directors of a major corporation was considering him for a CEO, there is no way he could pass muster. Yet, many are willing to vote for this man simply because they “want change”, “want a black president”, or “want a Democratic president”. In any event, those are not reasons to vote for someone for president. As a person who votes for an individual, not a political party, I trust that most voters will not be fooled in November. Welcome to the United Socialist States of America, if he gets elected.
By TW
April 18, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
Four more years of Republican ‘support for the troops’ and we’re gonna need to bring back the draft.
The ‘W’ stickers have long since turned into ‘L’s…nobody likes a loser…
In response to the bin laden attack, our Republican leadership peed all over themselves. You’re fired.
By MILTON
April 18, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
I am surprised by Mr. Nunn’s endorsement. I thought he was more conservative than that. Oh well.It should be more than interesting as more layers come off Mr. Obama.
By Cynic
April 18, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
Faux News has done well, don’t you think. Listen to you people! I understand what Michele Obama is ashamed of. It’s idiots like y’all!
By Rev. Jeremiah Wright
April 18, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this
G*d Damn America was founded by a bunch of damn European crackers, and built off the sweat and blood of Africans !
America’s chickens are coming home to roost !
Of course Jesus was a Black man ! He was persecuted by the cracker Romans because he was Black ! Like Obama, Jesus was a threat to the cracker power structure, and had to be removed !
By ray
April 18, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this
BRAVES~NATION! - coward? like the frat boy republican in chief who hid underneath his daddy’s bed when it was his turn to serve? or coward like dick cheney and his seven deferments?
at least jimmy carter’s got the stones to get close to the bad guys.
the republicans have turned our bald eagle into a chicken.
By Tomb
April 18, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Has anyone considered that Sam Nunn may be looking out for his country by perhaps getting a cabinet position where he could keep liberal Obama straight? As a lifelong Democrat, he couldn’t come out and support McCain. Back doors supply the same access as front doors. Think about it!
By Larry
April 18, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn for Obama? Is he serious? This once great statesman has gone senile. What rest home is he in? May God help us all if that man gets to be President!!
By Shaka Zulu
April 18, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
I love it when Whitey gets nervous over the prospects of a Black man living in the White House !
I think purple would look good on the White House !
By Churchill
April 18, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this
The Democrat party, with Obama, has out punted its coverage.
P.S. I think that I have been proven right. Do you all now see what boobs the Ru Paul types are?
By stephanie
April 18, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this
Regardless of who is running or who is supporting who, anyone that votes for Obama is a total idiot in my opinion!!!! Oh sure, let’s b*** and gripe about the economy today thanks to our current REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. Let him get out of office, and let’s be sure to replace him with a MUSLIM that HATES the Country in which has given him the FREEDOM (that he hasn’t personally earned or deserves) to stand up, with his wife and make the derogatory statements about this Country that has been made. Yeah, he is showing some reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal support for the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Way to go Obama, or should I say, go back to where you come from if the USA sux so much and take your supporters with you!!!!!!! :-)
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
By ray -April 18, 2008 5:49 PM | at least jimmy carters got the stones to get close to the bad guys. the republicans have turned our bald eagle into a chicken.
Wow! Ray, your lack of understanding of anything political makes it difficult to respond to you without making you seem like even more of a rube. Jimmy Carter is pandering to murderers. People who have murdered thousands for no other reason than to wipe infidels off the map. They claim the Holocaust was a hoax. They send innocent women & children into confined areas with bombs strapped on their chests in order to murder more innocents. They think nothing of buying missiles from Iran then turning them toward Israel and launching an unprovoked attack. They say that the death toll of 9/11 was over reported then refuse to condemn those who carried out the attacks; in fact, they even rejoiced when they saw the images of your fellow citizens throwing themselves out of the burning towers. George W. Bush had the stones to immediately respond and to draw a line in the sand for the terrorists. At the time, the demorats stood with him. Has it gone perfectly? Of course not. But the tough decisions had to be made and much good has come of it. Just ask the 98% of Iraqi citizens who turned out to vote in their first democratic election. Ask the families of the 10s of thousands of people that were murdered by Sadaam Hussein. Ask the droves of Afghani citizens who suffered under the rigid and brutal regime of the Taliban. And this isn’t some Republican rant — I believe that Bill Clinton would have sought the same results even though he fled to England to avoid the draft (interesting that you failed to mention that in your post).
What truly fascinates me is that the Democrats lose a close race in 2000 with a moderate candidate who has a moderate/conservative running mate; rather than building from that model, they choose one of the most liberal Senators in history to be their candidate and lose badly. Do the demorats learn? Apparently not. They are now trying to choose between the MOST liberal Senator in history (as concluded by the non-partisan National Review) and the former first lady who slides up and down the scale between liberal and moderate based on what the polls say.
Teddy Roosevelt may have wanted a grizzly bear rather than a bald eagle as our national mascot, but he understood and lived by the principle of speaking softly & carrying a big stick. He said, “A just war is in the long run far better for a nation’s soul than the most prosperous peace obtained by acquiescence in wrong or injustice.” This war has freed thousands and brought down one of history’s cruelest dictators. While it’s been a difficult war, history will prove that the pros (freedom) have outweighed the cons.
What demorats seem to never be able to comprehend is that the Muslim fanatic doesn’t think like them. Muslim fanatics want us and everyone like us to die a cruel & horrible death. They hate us and will never reason with us or negotiate with us. There are no demands that can be met. As my very liberal doctor friend who just went to Iraq to serve as a field unit doc told me, “My thoughts on this have completely changed. If we don’t stay the course over there, they will follow us over here. They’ve already done it and continue to try.”
By ray
April 18, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this
Esteban - you ought not use faux news as a surrogate for a history teacher.
watch out Esteban! there’s a terrist in your house! haha. chicken.
watch out Esteban! there’s a terrist in your closet! haha. chicken.
watch out Esteban! there’s a terrist under your bed! haha. chicken.
esteban, your stupidity is priceless to those who have made a fortune from it.
fool.
By Churchill
April 18, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this
Democrats love nominating libs and then losing big. They do it all the time. My favorite part is when they lose, they fail to see the rejection of liberal philosophy and claim that the election was stolen. This time they will claim that it was racism or sexism that cost them a victory. Their loss will be the fault of the nasty, narrow minded American public. Mark my words. Peace.
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
Ray, is this the type of intelligent, thoughtful debate that you so admire in your idol, Barack? Your foolishness tells me and everyone reading here how truly ignorant you are to what’s going on in the world around you. You should glide on out of the library on your Heelies until your mom can come pick you up from school. Maybe she’ll stop and buy you some clearasil and a Tiger Beat.
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this
Ray, is this the type of intelligent, thoughtful debate that you so admire in your idol, Barack? Is this the model of “unity” that you Obamites speak of? You’re actually making one of my points for me - your foolishness tells me and everyone reading here how truly ignorant you are to what’s going on in the world around you.
You should glide on out to the bus stop on your Heelies until your mom can come pick you up from school. Maybe she’ll stop and buy you some clearasil and a Tiger Beat.
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Ray, is this the type of intelligent, thoughtful debate that you so admire in your idol, Barack? Is this the model of “unity” that you Obamites speak of? You’re actually making one of my points for me - your foolishness tells me and everyone reading here how truly ignorant you are to what’s going on in the world around you.
You should glide on out to the bus stop on your Heelies until your mom can come pick you up from school. Maybe she’ll stop and buy you some clearasil and a Tiger Beat.
And, by the way, it’s “terrorist.”
By ray
April 18, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this
Esteban - all real ‘mericans like me and bush say terrist. you speakin’ against this means only one thing - they got you!
watch out everybody! the terrists got Esteban! the terrists got Esteban!
or maybe it was illegals! watch out everybody! the illegals got Esteban!
or maybe it was illegal terrists! omg! the illegal terrists got Esteban!
or maybe it was boogeymen! the worst of all! omg! the illegal terrist boogeymen got Esteban!
pull your head out. moron.
By Churchill
April 18, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this
Will you guys riot in Denver when Hillary tries to steal the nomination from Obama?
By GodHatesTrash
April 18, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this
The biggest problem the Dems face is that half the electorate is even dumber than Churchswill.
America has become overrun with stupid racist illiterate trash like Churchswill.
And trash elects trash.
By Churchill
April 18, 2008 8:11 PM | Link to this
I’ll still rent you the hybrid for the last 40 miles to Canada, Trash. That way you can leave this trashy place behind you.
For the record, the biggest problem you guys face is this racist/sexist primary season of yours. Peace.
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this
Ray & the other Hillarists & Obamites here — how sad to see how short your memories are. 9/11 really happened (Ray may have not yet been born). Thousands of your fellow Americans & citizens of other countries died in NY, DC & Penn. This was caused by an unprovoked, surprise terrorist attack against us only because we are America. Ray, the terrorists “got” friends of mine that day. There were terrorists in our house that day Ray. So it’s you, mi amigo, that needs to pull his head out — you and your Koom-Ba-Ya, red Kool-Aid friends who think it’s ok for a current or former President to share a cup of joe with these cowards as if nothing had happened.
It’s despicable and your making light of it shows what a truly disgusting, unPatriotic and heartless individual you are. I would hope that you are an extreme element in this debate and an embarrassment to the other Hillarists/Obamites here. You should thank God Almighty that you live in a country where you can spew all of the contemptuous and vile blather you want without any concern for repercussions for your ignorance and disrespect.
By Randy
April 18, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn is perhaps the finest politician this state has ever produced. I have pretty much settled on McCain, but this will give me ‘pause’ and I will at least crack the door to reconsider.
By ray
April 18, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this
Esteban - those friends of yours who were killed on 9/11 must be real happy up there watching you kneel in front of the man who was charged with catching the bad guy - but hasn’t. almost seven years later, all the republicans have done in response to 9/11 is fan the terrist fire. why? because morons like you fail to honor our lost civilians by holding the president to a standard worthy of their loss.
Instead of going after bin laden, you rightwing chickenhawks go after other Americans any American who does not have the make up of a rightwing nazi like yourself.
That you invoke God after your rightwing has spent the last eight years defecating on Christs message makes you an even big joke than everyone on this blog already knows you to be.
Now, pull your face off your mama and go to bed. Moron.
By Blue Water
April 18, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this
Nunn is like Carter, wants somebody to like him. He is a has been and thank goodness for that. I think most people detest carter except the terrorits.
By Esteban
April 18, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this
Ray — you’re obviously to the Reverend Wright side of Obama supporters. What a clown. Just like Obama, there is no substance to anything you say.
The great thing for me (and sad for you) is that when I turn off my computer, I can go on to enjoy my evening. You’ll still be an angry, vile, assh0le. Adios.
By RonPaulsupporter
April 18, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this
Ron Paul is still the only true American in this race. Ron Paul will beat McCain, Hillary, or B. Hussein Obama. Vote Ron Paul in November.
By El Churchillo
April 18, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this
!!!Dios mio!!
VIVA MCCAIN
By ray
April 18, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this
Esteban - i accept your white flag, and will pray that God forgives you. good night.
By ELIABETH
April 18, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this
Now Children,, Now Children,,,Listen up Children, just because you will not get your way by having a jakal like Billary return to office. Please do not committ suicide or stake yourselves to a cross and vote republican.
You are the people that voted for Bush because you take issue with Guns, Gays, and God.
Keep it up and you will receive four more years of the likes of Bush with John McCain… Wake up Obama will work 3 times as hard to prove himself and you will be the benefactor.
Childish behavior of throwing your candy away in the sand box because you cannot have your way will get you no where.
Just because Obama is open and honest and not willing to accept all people where he meets them is why he is the best candidate.
Remember none of us are perfect not even any of you… All of you have been less than you should be at some point in your lives. Does that make you any less of an American.
Get a grip. What you are asking for is a candidate that is a clone of yourself. This will never happen. Why? Remember this is America or did you forget that America is a melting pot.
Quick dividing along petty issues and differences. This is why the Republicans have been able to rob us our are futures.. While you are quibbling over whether someone is Black, Gay, Latino, Asian, White, Catholic, Protestant, Jew, or Muslim; the greedy unethical manipulators are robbing us blind.
While we all endure; wars, phony financial scams, gas profits, home foreclosures, and high food prices from the manipulators. Many of you continue to play into their hands and fail to use the common sense God gave you. Pettiness is such a ugly ignorant way of life.
By ELIZABETH
April 18, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this
I am so proud of Senator Sam Nunn he is and always will be an intelligent brave man… For those of you who diagee with him, ‘water seeks its own level’, and it is obvious you are not on Senato Nunn’s level.
However, this is America and ignorance and intollerance is allowed.
By Hill08
April 18, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
I am a Hillary supporter and I will not vote for Obama if he get the nomination. Matter of fact, I will cross over and vote for McCain. Barack Obama is not ready to be president. He needs to spend more time in the Senate. Hillary has far more experience than Obama. She will get the job done.
Vote Hillary
By YesSheCan
April 18, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this
Who cares? Nunn is a Geezer. Obama will lose the south big time (Southern Whites will never vote for a black Muslim). Hillary is our only chance to beat the neocons in November. Obama will be lucky if she lets him be her VP.
By Churchill
April 18, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this
Operations Chaos is working!!!! The left is cracking up!!!!! This is wonderful.
By Charles
April 18, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this
Absolutely Churchill! Even if we have to settle for McCain as our next President it sure beats having an extreme Liberal in the Office! It’s also nice to see the Left being asked the tough questions for a change (thank you, ABC for returning to true journalism and not partisanship). No wonder the stock market has picked up in the past few weeks. People are beginning to realize that the country isn’t going to be hijacked by the looney Left.
I’m looking forward to the Democratic Implosion at Denver. This is going to make Chicago 1968 look like a garden party! Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha! I LOVE it!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Pastor Carl
April 18, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this
As as African American from south Georgia, I have always had a deep and abiding respect for Sam Nunn. His depth and his thoughfulness; love for this country and its military might and position in the world. That he has determined that Senator Obama is right for American at this time speaks VOLUMES, at least to me. Senator Nunn gets it. It is not about politics-as-usual, nor is it about the Clinton’s sense of entitlement. It isn’t about race or gotcha politics—its about America’s desire to see the man-made barriers that keeps us separated and living in strife—that which keeps our government from being able to create policy that can raise a 4th graders reading and math scores, and that which keeps everything else in Washington operating as a bastion of ineffectiveness, ended. We are ready for a change and so is Sam Nunn. Thank you sir for your courage and your support for change.
By Pastor Carl
April 18, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this
As as African American from south Georgia, I have always had a deep and abiding respect for Sam Nunn. His depth and his thoughfulness; love for this country and its military might and position in the world. That he has determined that Senator Obama is right for American at this time speaks VOLUMES, at least to me. Senator Nunn gets it. It is not about politics-as-usual, nor is it about the Clinton’s sense of entitlement. It isn’t about race or gotcha politics—its about America’s desire to see the man-made barriers that keeps us separated and living in strife—that which keeps our government from being able to create policy that can raise a 4th graders reading and math scores, and that which keeps everything else in Washington operating as a bastion of ineffectiveness, ended. We are ready for a change and so is Sam Nunn. Thank you sir for your courage and your support for change.
By Bitter
April 19, 2008 12:28 AM | Link to this
YesSheCan: “Southern Whites will never vote for a black Muslim.” So, you’re saying Southern Whites are not ONLY racist, but they’re so ignorant that they believe Obama is actually a Muslim?
I give them more credit than that.
By herman
April 19, 2008 1:16 AM | Link to this
Responding to:
April 18, 2008 9:29 PM who wrote: “Southern Whites will never vote for a black Muslim” & BritAmerican April 18, 2008 4:21 PM who wrote: “Liberals hate this country. They hate Christianity. They hate capitalism.”
Those kinds of attitudes hurt the nation, and denigrate our relationship to our neighbors & ourselves.
I think the majority of US long for so much more than that.
To cease fear-based provocations and falsehoods, and affirm healthy public policy—-is desirable.
Capitalism is not an enemy. We all want jobs, work we can do well & to prosper. Christ the carpenter—he asked his adherents to love their enemies <—-((response to BritAmerican))
Inspiration can & does translate into action.
I love this country—-> our flaws & our best aspects, as they are examined, I think maybe we can get stronger, wiser and happier as a nation of people who have traveled far and never quite settled down.
White & Southern Voting for Barack Obama ‘08
By Linda
April 19, 2008 3:48 AM | Link to this
I am pleased to hear of Senator Sam Nunn’s endorsement of Obama. I have always been a fond supporter of Sam Nunn, and have rated him among the top in the area of national defense. I think Sam Nunn will make a very good choice for Obama’s running mate. Those of you who think that Obama is too liberal, what do you have to say about a liberal/conservative democratic nominee for President and Vice President of the US?
By Linda
April 19, 2008 4:12 AM | Link to this
I have always held Sam Nunn in highest regard. To see him endorse Obama is wonderful. For those of you who complain that Obama is too liberal, what do you have to say about liberalism and conservatism on the democratic ticket for President? I think Samm Nunn will make a good Vice Presidential candidate.
lfk
By Churchill
April 19, 2008 7:06 AM | Link to this
Linda, one lib in charge is one lib too many. Peace.
By Jerry
April 19, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
I think that Senator Nunn’s endorsement of Senator Obama for president is a huge plus. I do still have problems with his refusal to wear a flag pin and not being respectful of our flag. What he is thinking I certainly do not know. The stripes on the flag represents the blood shed by our troops and he shows absolutely no respect for the flag. How is he respectful of our military and veterans?
By still hopefull
April 19, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
One thing that keeps going through my mind is that the people with “experence” got us into the mess we are now in. What makes everyone think they can get us out of it? It’s time for someone else to try. Can it really get any worse?
By MM
April 19, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
Ol’ Sam did it again. He’s just another phony, a liberal who talks conservative. He voted against Bork and Tower, gave away the Panama Canal, voted against medical savings accounts, many other wrong votes. Now he endorses the Big O, America’s most liberal senator. I’m glad I voted against Sam the Sham all four times he ran. Good riddance to the Bork-basher…MM
By jeannette
April 19, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
So Sam Nunn has met with Obama’s Security Advisors. Has he met with Hillary Clinton’s advisors? If not how did he arrive at a decision to support a man who we know so little about and what we do know raises serious questions about what he believes. I’M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN SENATOR NUNN. Apparently he’s looking for a high profile job if Obama gets elected.
My vote and many others I know, will go for John McCain if Obama is the Democratic Candidate.
By ann
April 19, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
Flag pin? It has come down to this for some people. How foolish and how simple in a very bad way. Our flag is a thing, Obama respects it as well he should.I think he respects this country and the citizens in it even more. We have been hoodwinked by outward displays of allegiance that are meaningless. No one is obliged to have to add anything to their wardrobe or appearance that they do not want to wear. Flag pins look tacky, no matter whose flag it is. Please! I am renewed by this candidacy. I thought for years that I was in such a minority with the few who believe we could do better. This swell of so many who understand what has happened to our country has given me hope and I am overjoyed that, although I am old, it is the youth of this United States who understand the most. They can change things for the better for the next 20 years. I always thouht that Sam Nunn was first and foremost a good person, a little conservative for me but he must see the goodness and truth that are in Barack Obama. It all may finally work to make us a place in this world that does good for good reasons, not to line the pockets of the elite. I realize that a lot of you believe you are the elite. You have no idea, you aren’t.
By ann
April 19, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
oh…and for the racists out there. I am white. My whole family is boringly white. For the gossip mongers out there who insist on spreading untruths about Obama…..see “Doubt” at the Alliance theater and then wonder where your intellect is.
By wbw
April 19, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this
Iwould like to say too all of you haters,itis time for a change in the USA.if any of you attend church at allthere has been a time when someone has said something that you didnt like,but you kept silent,so get off Rev. Wright’s back for every one in this country still has a race problem ok,you know you do,if you didn’t this would have passed already. Let’s talk issues, the war, which we have no need to be in, our people are being killed daily, cant get help when they come back hurt, loosing their homes, have no jobs, people cant pay for food, gas ect.this is what you should be worried about.TIME FOR A CHANGE in the USA>
By Larry
April 19, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this
You know, there’s alot of cats out there who think that liberals are, well, let me say…what I mean is that there’s all these cats, okay? and these cats are saying that the libs are….let me just start over. There’s alot of cats out there and these cats think that…look, I dont know why I’m having so much trouble expressing this….there’s cats okay, and these cats are everywhere, cats! Cats everywhere you look. aw, forget it.
By Bitter EX democrackkk
April 19, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this
I’d have given Nunn way more credit than supporting a racist mooslim. What’s happened to America? This man Obama is dangerous and INexperienced. Foolhardy. No one except Ron Paul is qualified.
By BOB
April 19, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this
OLD SAM IS DUMBER THAN I REMEMBER HIM BEING! GUESS ITS TRUE, HEARD HE WAS BECOMING SENILE!
By Churchill
April 20, 2008 12:09 AM | Link to this
much like the glorious gw bush lands on a carrier deck declaring mission accomplished, I post in honor sir for I am churchill born again lord of the idiots and ruler of chicken hawks fight on christian warriors smite the evil doers while i watch bill o’reiily.
By Churchill
April 20, 2008 2:01 AM | Link to this
Peace to the name hijackers. I bet that is not all they jack. Peace.
By Churchill the Boob
April 20, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this
I believe in peace. I say it all the time. Now let’s get over to Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and any where else we are needed to bring truth, liberty, and freedom and kill their sorry buttocks so we can have peace. By the way, peace.
By Churchill
April 20, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
Barry can only win if he paints himself white. Georgia is controlled by racist inbred redneck republicans who vote against their own economic interests. Segregation is the goal. Bring back the flag sonny. Long live ignorance. Science is a lie the world is flat like my wife’s chest.
By GodHatesTrash
April 20, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Will we democrats riot in Denver when the Hillary steals the nomination from Barack? Why are we divided on race and gender? Will the riots hurt our chances? Will the country finally see that we democrats are the true dividers? Will we once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory? Why oh why are we so inept? Will we nominate a witch or an inexperienced muslim? Why are we such trash?
By FAITH
April 20, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this
IF YOU WANT MORE OF THE SAME MORTGAGE, FUEL, SAFETY, AND JOB PROBLEMS—- KEEP VOTING THE SAME STUPID WAY|!!!
By Elaine
April 20, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this
I used to respect Sam Nunn, but that is gone now. By endorsing Obama, he has proven that party maatters more to him that the good of the country. I believe that Obama is the most dangerous candidate to ever run for the highest office in the land.
By Tru
April 20, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this
I pray that we all are given the truth and still believe in what is right and just!
Of National Lies and Racial America
By TIM WISE For most white folks, indignation just doesn't wear well. Once affected or conjured up, it reminds one of a pudgy man, wearing a tie that may well have fit him when he was fifty pounds lighter, but which now cuts off somewhere above his navel and makes him look like an idiot. Indignation doesn't work for most whites, because having remained sanguine about, silent during, indeed often supportive of so much injustice over the years in this country--the theft of native land and genocide of indigenous persons, and the enslavement of Africans being only two of the best examples--we are just a bit late to get into the game of moral rectitude. And once we enter it, our efforts at righteousness tend to fail the test of sincerity. But here we are, in 2008, fuming at the words of Pastor Jeremiah Wright, of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago--occasionally Barack Obama's pastor, and the man whom Obama credits with having brought him to Christianity--for merely reminding us of those evils about which we have remained so quiet, so dismissive, so unconcerned. It is not the crime that bothers us, but the remembrance of it, the unwillingness to let it go--these last words being the first ones uttered by most whites it seems whenever anyone, least of all an 'angry black man' like Jeremiah Wright, foists upon us the bill of particulars for several centuries of white supremacy. But our collective indignation, no matter how loudly we announce it, cannot drown out the truth. And as much as white America may not be able to hear it (and as much as politics may require Obama to condemn it) let us be clear, Jeremiah Wright fundamentally told the truth. Oh I know that for some such a comment will seem shocking. After all, didn't he say that America 'got what it deserved' on 9/11? And didn't he say that black people should be singing 'God Damn America' because of its treatment of the African American community throughout the years? Well actually, no he didn't. Wright said not that the attacks of September 11th were justified, but that they were, in effect, predictable. Deploying the imagery of chickens coming home to roost is not to give thanks for the return of the poultry or to endorse such feathered homecoming as a positive good; rather, it is merely to note two things: first, that what goes around, indeed, comes around--a notion with longstanding theological grounding--and secondly, that the U.S. has indeed engaged in more than enough violence against innocent people to make it just a tad bit hypocritical for us to then evince shock and outrage about an attack on ourselves, as if the latter were unprecedented. He noted that we killed far more people, far more innocent civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki than were killed on 9/11 and 'never batted an eye.' That this statement is true is inarguable, at least amongst sane people. He is correct on the math, he is correct on the innocence of the dead (neither city was a military target), and he is most definitely correct on the lack of remorse or even self-doubt about the act: sixty-plus years later most Americans still believe those attacks were justified, that they were needed to end the war and 'save American lives.' But not only does such a calculus suggest that American lives are inherently worth more than the lives of Japanese civilians (or, one supposes, Vietnamese, Iraqi or Afghan civilians too), but it also ignores the long-declassified documents, and President Truman's own war diaries, all of which indicate clearly that Japan had already signaled its desire to end the war, and that we knew they were going to surrender, even without the dropping of atomic weapons. The conclusion to which these truths then attest is simple, both in its basic veracity and it monstrousness: namely, that in those places we committed premeditated and deliberate mass murder, with no justification whatsoever; and yet for saying that I will receive more hate mail, more hostility, more dismissive and contemptuous responses than will those who suggest that no body count is too high when we're the ones doing the killing. Jeremiah Wright becomes a pariah, because, you see, we much prefer the logic of George Bush the First, who once said that as President he would 'never apologize for the United States of America. I don't care what the facts are.' And Wright didn't say blacks should be singing 'God Damn America.' He was suggesting that blacks owe little moral allegiance to a nation that has treated so many of them for so long as animals, as persons undeserving of dignity and respect, and which even now locks up hundreds of thousands of non-violent offenders (especially for drug possession), even while whites who do the same crimes (and according to the data, when it comes to drugs, more often in fact), are walking around free. His reference to God in that sermon was more about what God will do to such a nation, than it was about what should or shouldn't happen. It was a comment derived from, and fully in keeping with, the black prophetic tradition, and although one can surely disagree with the theology (I do, actually, and don't believe that any God either blesses or condemns nation states for their actions), the statement itself was no call for blacks to turn on America. If anything, it was a demand that America earn the respect of black people, something the evidence and history suggests it has yet to do. Finally, although one can certainly disagree with Wright about his suggestion that the government created AIDS to get rid of black folks--and I do, for instance--it is worth pointing out that Wright isn't the only one who has said this. In fact, none other than Bill Cosby (oh yes, that Bill Cosby, the one white folks love because of his recent moral crusade against the black poor) proffered his belief in the very same thing back in the early '90s in an interview on CNN, when he said that AIDS may well have been created to get rid of people whom the government deemed 'undesirable' including gays and racial minorities. So that's the truth of the matter: Wright made one comment that is highly arguable, but which has also been voiced by white America's favorite black man, another that was horribly misinterpreted and stripped of all context, and then another that was demonstrably accurate. And for this, he is pilloried and made into a virtual enemy of the state; for this, Barack Obama may lose the support of just enough white folks to cost him the Democratic nomination, and/or the Presidency; all of it, because Jeremiah Wright, unlike most preachers opted for truth. If he had been one of those 'prosperity ministers' who says Jesus wants nothing so much as for you to be rich, like Joel Osteen, that would have been fine. Had he been a retread bigot like Falwell was, or Pat Robertson is, he might have been criticized, but he would have remained in good standing and surely not have damaged a Presidential candidate in this way. But unlike Osteen, and Falwell, and Robertson , Jeremiah Wright refused to feed his parishioners lies. What Jeremiah Wright knows, and told his flock--though make no mistake, they already knew it--is that 9/11 was neither the first, nor worst act of terrorism on American soil. The history of this nation for folks of color, was for generations, nothing less than an intergenerational hate crime, one in which 9/11s were woven into the fabric of everyday life: hundreds of thousands of the enslaved who died from the conditions of their bondage; thousands more who were lynched (as many as 10,000 in the first few years after the Civil War, according to testimony in the Congressional Record at the time); millions of indigenous persons wiped off the face of the Earth. No, to some, the horror of 9/11 was not new. To some it was not on that day that 'everything changed.' To some, everything changed four hundred years ago, when that first ship landed at what would become Jamestown. To some, everything changed when their ancestors were forced into the hulls of slave ships at Goree Island and brought to a strange land as chattel. To some, everything changed when they were run out of Northern Mexico, only to watch it become the Southwest United States, thanks to a war of annihilation initiated by the U.S. government. To some, being on the receiving end of terrorism has been a way of life. Until recently it was absolutely normal in fact. But white folks have a hard time hearing these simple truths. We find it almost impossible to listen to an alternative version of reality. Indeed, what seems to bother white people more than anything, whether in the recent episode, or at any other time, is being confronted with the recognition that black people do not, by and large, see the world like we do; that black people, by and large, do not view America as white people view it. We are, in fact, shocked that this should be so, having come to believe, apparently, that the falsehoods to which we cling like a kidney patient clings to a dialysis machine, are equally shared by our darker-skinned compatriots. This is what James Baldwin was talking about in his classic 1972 work, No Name in the Street, wherein he noted: 'White children, in the main, and whether they are rich or poor, grow up with a grasp of reality so feeble that they can very accurately be described as deluded--about themselves and the world they live in. White people have managed to get through their entire lifetimes in this euphoric state, but black people have not been so lucky: a black man who sees the world the way John Wayne, for example, sees it would not be an eccentric patriot, but a raving maniac.' And so we were shocked in 1987, when Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall declined to celebrate the bicentennial of the Constitution, because, as he noted, most of that history had been one of overt racism and injustice, and to his way of thinking, the only history worth celebrating had been that of the past three or four decades. We were shocked to learn that black people actually believed that a white cop who was a documented racist might frame a black man; and we're shocked to learn that lots of black folks still perceive the U.S. as a racist nation--we're literally stunned that people who say they experience discrimination regularly (and who have the social science research to back them up) actually think that those experiences and that data might actually say something about the nation in which they reside. Imagine. Whites are easily shocked by what we see and hear from Pastor Wright and Trinity Church, because what we see and hear so thoroughly challenges our understanding of who we are as a nation. But black people have never, for the most part, believed in the imagery of the 'shining city on a hill,' for they have never had the option of looking at their nation and ignoring the mountain-sized warts still dotting its face when it comes to race. black people do not, in the main, get misty eyed at the sight of the flag the way white people do--and this is true even for millions of black veterans--for they understand that the nation for whom that flag waves is still not fully committed to their own equality. They have a harder time singing those tunes that white people seem so eager to belt out, like 'God Bless America,' for they know that whites sang those words loudly and proudly even as they were enforcing Jim Crow segregation, rioting against blacks who dared move into previously white neighborhoods, throwing rocks at Dr. King and then cheering, as so many did, when they heard the news that he had been assassinated. Whites refuse to remember (or perhaps have never learned) that which black folks cannot afford to forget. I've seen white people stunned to the point of paralysis when they learn the truth about lynchings in this country--when they discover that such events were not just a couple of good old boys with a truck and a rope hauling some black guy out to the tree, hanging him, and letting him swing there. They were never told the truth: that lynchings were often community events, advertised in papers as 'Negro Barbecues,' involving hundreds or even thousands of whites, who would join in the fun, eat chicken salad and drink sweet tea, all while the black victims of their depravity were being hung, then shot, then burned, and then having their body parts cut off, to be handed out to onlookers. They are stunned to learn that postcards of the events were traded as souvenirs, and that very few whites, including members of their own families did or said anything to stop it. Rather than knowing about and confronting the ugliness of our past, whites take steps to excise the less flattering aspects of our history so that we need not be bothered with them. So, in Tulsa, Oklahoma, for example, site of an orgy of violence against the black community in 1921, city officials literally went into the town library and removed all reference to the mass killings in the Greenwood district from the papers with a razor blade--an excising of truth and an assault on memory that would remain unchanged for over seventy years. Most white people desire, or perhaps even require the propagation of lies when it comes to our history. Surely we prefer the lies to anything resembling, even remotely, the truth. Our version of history, of our national past, simply cannot allow for the intrusion of fact into a worldview so thoroughly identified with fiction. But that white version of America is not only extraordinarily incomplete, in that it so favors the white experience to the exclusion of others; it is more than that; it is actually a slap in the face to people of color, a re-injury, a reminder that they are essentially irrelevant, their concerns trivial, their lives unworthy of being taken seriously. In that sense, and what few if any white Americans appear capable of grasping at present, is that 'Leave it Beaver' and 'Father Knows Best,' portray an America so divorced from the reality of the times in which they were produced, as to raise serious questions about the sanity of those who found them so moving, so accurate, so real. These iconographic representations of life in the U.S. are worse than selective, worse than false, they are assaults to the humanity and memory of black people, who were being savagely oppressed even as June Cleaver did housework in heels and laughed about the hilarious hijinks of Beaver and Larry Mondello. These portraits of America are certifiable evidence of how disconnected white folks were--and to the extent we still love them and view them as representations of the 'good old days' to which we wish we could return, still are--from those men and women of color with whom we have long shared a nation. Just two months before 'Leave it to Beaver' debuted, proposed civil rights legislation was killed thanks to Strom Thurmond's 24-hour filibuster speech on the floor of the U.S. Senate. One month prior, Arkansas Governor Orville Faubus called out the National Guard to block black students from entering Little Rock Central High; and nine days before America was introduced to the Cleavers, and the comforting image of national life they represented, those black students were finally allowed to enter, amid the screams of enraged, unhinged, viciously bigoted white people, who saw nothing wrong with calling children n**** in front of cameras. That was America of the 1950s: not the sanitized version into which so many escape thanks to the miracle of syndication, which merely allows white people to relive a lie, year after year after year. No, it is not the pastor who distorts history; Nick at Nite and your teenager's textbooks do that. It is not he who casts aspersions upon 'this great country' as Barack Obama put it in his public denunciations of him; it is the historic leadership of the nation that has cast aspersions upon it; it is they who have cheapened it, who have made gaudy and vile the promise of American democracy by defiling it with lies. They engage in a patriotism that is pathological in its implications, that asks of those who adhere to it not merely a love of country but the turning of one's nation into an idol to be worshipped, it not literally, then at least in terms of consequence. It is they--the flag-lapel-pin wearing leaders of this land--who bring shame to the country with their nonsensical suggestions that we are always noble in warfare, always well-intended, and although we occasionally make mistakes, we are never the ones to blame for anything. Nothing that happens to us has anything to do with us at all. It is always about them. They are evil, crazy, fanatical, hate our freedoms, and are jealous of our prosperity. When individuals prattle on in this manner we diagnose them as narcissistic, as deluded. When nations do it--when our nation does--we celebrate it as though it were the very model of rational and informed citizenship. So what can we say about a nation that values lies more than it loves truth? A place where adherence to sincerely believed and internalized fictions allows one to rise to the highest offices in the land, and to earn the respect of millions, while a willingness to challenge those fictions and offer a more accurate counter-narrative earns one nothing but contempt, derision, indeed outright hatred? What we can say is that such a place is signing its own death warrant. What we can say is that such a place is missing the only and last opportunity it may ever have to make things right, to live up to its professed ideals. What we can say is that such a place can never move forward, because we have yet to fully address and come to terms with that which lay behind. What can we say about a nation where white preachers can lie every week from their pulpits without so much as having to worry that their lies might be noticed by the shiny white faces in their pews, while black preachers who tell one after another essential truth are demonized, not only for the stridency of their tone--which needless to say scares white folks, who have long preferred a style of praise and worship resembling nothing so much as a coma--but for merely calling b****** on those whose lies are swallowed whole? And oh yes, I said it: white preachers lie. In fact, they lie with a skill, fluidity, and precision unparalleled in the history of either preaching or lying, both of which histories stretch back a ways and have often overlapped. They lie every Sunday, as they talk about a Savior they have chosen to represent dishonestly as a white man, in every picture to be found of him in their tabernacles, every children's story book in their Sunday Schools, every Christmas card they'll send to relatives and friends this December. But to lie about Jesus, about the one they consider God--to bear false witness as to who this man was and what he looked like--is no cause for concern. Nor is it a problem for these preachers to teach and preach that those who don't believe as they believe are going to hell. Despite the fact that such a belief casts aspersions upon God that are so profound as to defy belief--after all, they imply that God is so fundamentally evil that he would burn non-believers in a lake of eternal fire--many of the white folks who now condemn Jeremiah Wright welcome that theology of hate. Indeed, back when President Bush was the Governor of Texas, he endorsed this kind of thinking, responding to a question about whether Jews were going to go to hell, by saying that unless one accepted Jesus as one's personal savior, the Bible made it pretty clear that indeed, hell was where you'd be heading. So you can curse God in this way--and to imply such hate on God's part is surely to curse him--and in effect, curse those who aren't Christians, and no one says anything. That isn't considered bigoted. That isn't considered beyond the pale of polite society. One is not disqualified from becoming President in the minds of millions because they go to a church that says that s** every single week, or because they believe it themselves. And millions do believe it, and see nothing wrong with it whatsoever. So white folks are mad at Jeremiah Wright because he challenges their views about their country. Meanwhile, those same white folks, and their ministers and priests, every week put forth a false image of the God Jeremiah Wright serves, and yet it is whites who feel we have the right to be offended. Pardon me, but something is wrong here, and whatever it is, is not to be found at Trinity United Church of Christ. Tim Wise is the author of: White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son (Soft Skull Press, 2005), and Affirmative Action: Racial Preference in Black and White (Routledge: 2005). He can be reached at: timjwise@msn.com This essay originally appeared in Lip.By Tru
April 20, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
What is Tim Wise really saying. Does he feel guilty? I hope not! Just a day in the life of a real American
By Nerdly
April 21, 2008 7:37 AM | Link to this
I’m stunned… amazed… and astonished at the lucidity of Senator Nunn in his statement - appears Obama is worth another reading. Changes the power base in favor of Obama dramatically… I can at least rest a bit easier if McCain doesn’t meet the challenge this November.
By Craig
April 22, 2008 12:29 AM | Link to this
If not Sam Nunn for Prez, then Sam for SOS or SOD. Nunn was the latest in the succession of Georgia’s Congressional lions- Russell, Vinson and Nunn. Prayerfully, he was not the last.
By C
April 22, 2008 12:57 AM | Link to this
He was.
By C
April 22, 2008 12:58 AM | Link to this
He was.
By Barbara Kelly
April 23, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
Sam Nunn is my hero! I was living in Atlanta during the time he was a senator in Ga. I also met him in person, and he is a very down to earth, sincere person, who is quite an authority on military matters. There aren’t many heros left in politics, and Sam is one. As a conservative Southern Democrat it is quite meaningful for him to endorse Sen. Obama.
By jbfromBigD
April 24, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this
As a conservative Democrat. I really hope that Sen. Obama is able to pick Sen. Nunn as his VP.
By jbfromBigD
April 24, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this
As a conservative Democrat, I really hope that Sen. Obama is able to pick Sen. Nunn as his VP.
By Kristina
May 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
I am disgusted at posts calling Senator Obama a terrorists, mocking Muslims, and insulting Sam Nunn, a man who has served this country for many years. I never thought I would be ashamed of my fellow Georgians, but I guess I never ran across such ignorant folks before.
By Jesse Phillips
May 27, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
I am ashamed of Sam Nunn.I keep telling people to name any present politician that hes the integrity of Dick Russell or a Sam Nunn and I have not one name offered up. I am sorry that I used Nunn’s in that remark. Since his candiate will not salute the flag that so many Americans died for ,I’ll have no respect for Nunn and his candidate. A 77 year old.
By Darbel Alcide
June 4, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
Sam Nunn is the ideal guy for V.P.
By JOHN W. BUGLER
June 5, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this
Nunn as a VP would be good for the world, our country the democratic party, or the republican party.
Writing as a conservative republican I can only say this:
I value his council and I hope McCain grabs him before OBAMA does.
With every good wish,
JOHN W. BUGLER BUGLER.ORG
By Jim Morton
June 11, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this
In a heart beat, I would vote for you for president, but as Obama’s vice president ,never!!!! He is a very charismatic and dynamic speaker, and it easy to see why so many people are drawn to him, but quite frankly, the man scares me.I am a Navy vet and dearly love my country and I just cannot imagine this man as “Commander in Chief”
By Bryan
June 20, 2008 12:54 AM | Link to this
First of all, to all my muslim brothers and sisters I would like to say “As Salaamu Alaikam” secondly, I would like to say that it doesn’t matter what religion Barack Obama is. Are we not all human? Do we not all bleed red? It’s time for people to stop labeling each other and start loving each other! Rasullah (SAW) said “Arab has no authroity over none Arab. White has no authority over Black. Jew over non-Jew. Execpt through piety and good action.” I have already awoken, will you?
By Phat Rat Walsh
June 20, 2008 1:27 AM | Link to this
Obama and Nunn a unifying and strong ticket.We need to pull together as a country if we are going to compete at the level we are accustom.Mr. Nunn brings a lot of experience to the table.Mr.Obama brings energy and hope.I think they will make a great team for the future. As for McCain,I think his wifes personal problems:drug abuse and forgery.Her fathers mob ties with Marty Kemper and the murder of Don Bolles is really asking for too much to overlook for me.Having an affair while your wife is wheelchair bound can be forgiven by most of us but not a good role for our children.
By Derek
July 17, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
It does not matter who Obama chooses as his running mate. Whether the liberals want to believe it, whether the press wants to actually say what they are thinking or not, the election is over. There is too much inexperience and past problems with Obama for the public to trust him. They will stick with the experience.
Obama is NOT going to win.
By MM
July 30, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
Wake up, folks. Sam Nunn sold out to the liberals as soon as he hit Washington. He gave away the Panama Canal, voted against Bork and Tower, many other bad votes, is a Reagan-hater, Carter supporter, has a history of backing liberals. He has about the same conservative voting rating as liberal Repub Arlen Specter, about 45% (acuratings.org). A one-word description : Overrated ! His endorsement of socialist Barack proves it again. He’s just another self-promoting Democrat who talks a good game.
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By D Higgins
September 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
I am terribly disappointed in Senator Nunn. I am an old-line Dixie Democrat I considered Sam to be one of the last nationally known Democrats that I could support. During the years I resided in Georgia I always voted for most of the the Ga Democrats and always for Sam; but never for the liberal national party elites. I still vote heavilly Democratic in local and state elections but I can’t stomach any of the national party hot-shots.I have been a Goldwater-Democrat,a Wallace-Democrat,a Reagan-Democrat, a Perot-Democrat,a George Bush-Democrat and this year I will be a McCain Democrat. I hope before I leave this life ,the party of my family heritage will offer up a presidential candidate I can vote for. I had once thought Sam Nunn would be that man…Guess not. Georgia and the South will go for McCain.
By Cephas Barnard
September 26, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this
“We Deserve It” Dividend: Bail Out the Little Guy
I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.
To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A husband and wife has $595,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family? Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved. Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads Put away money for college - it’ll be there Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs. Buy a new car - create jobs Invest in the market - capital drives growth Pay for your parent’s medical insurance - health care improves Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it…instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( “vote buy” ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.
If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG - liquidate it. Sell off its parts. Let American General go back to being American General. Sell off the real estate. Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.
Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”
But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .
And remember, The Davis plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
Ahhh…I feel so much better getting that off my chest. Kindest personal regards, Art A.C.Davis, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic
PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it’s either good for a lau gh or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85 Billion!!
By Brad
November 12, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Check your math, Cephas. That’s only $425.00