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Bob Barr thinking ‘very serious’ thoughts about a presidential race, Iraq, and torture

On an Internet site called Anti-War Radio, former Georgia congressman Bob Barr confirmed on Wednesday that he’s “very seriously” looking at joining the race for the White House as a Libertarian — and had harsh words for both the Iraq war and for the Bush Administration’s defense of “enhanced interrogation techniques.”

Many thanks to blogger Jason Pye for passing on word of the interview.

On a presidential run, Barr said:

“There’s been a tremendous expressed to me both directly and indirectly on the Internet. I take that support very seriously, and I think it also reflects a great deal of dissatisfaction with the current candidates and the current two-party system. So it is something, to be honest with you, that I’m looking very seriously at.”

Barr said a Libertarian candidacy would essentially be an extension of the Ron Paul campaign.

“Ron Paul tapped into a great deal of that dissatisfaction and that awareness. Unfortunately, working through the Republican party structure, it became impossible for him to really move forward with his movement. But we have to have ….a rallying point out there to harness that energy, that freedom in this election cycle,” Barr said.

On Iraq:

“What we’ve fallen into in recent years — not just since 9/11, but particularly since 9/11 — is this notion that, in order to protect ourselves, we have to preemptively go into and — in the case of Iraq — occupy another sovereign nation,” Barr said. “Simply saying, ‘Gee, it’s better to fight over in this other nation and destroy another nation, so we’re not potentially attacked here, is the height of arrogance.”

As for the Bush administration’s refusal to define waterboarding as torture, Barr referred to the practice as “sophistry of the worst and rankest order.”

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By Steve

March 26, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

Something has to happen here. There are a lot of liberty loving consersavtives that the GOP has basically thrown out the door.

All the money and volunteers for the GOP are behind Paul. The GOP has a real problem with the Consitution and Liberty. The GOP has went out of their way to keep Paul out. What a shame. Shame on Americans for allowing our country to be run by two parties who are at this point in bed with each other.

By Carbon Footprint

March 26, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this

Bob Barr, who must be a distant cousin of Obama, sure has a way of cutting through to the meat of an issue. I never knew spin like his Iraq sound bite was possible.

Obama is related to so many people, Brad Pitt, cheney….about the only person Obama isn’t connected with somehow is his pastor.

By Chuck

March 26, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

I worked on Barr’s U.S. Senate campaign in 1992 and his first congressional race in ‘94. The thought of Bob entering as a Libertarian is interesting and could sway a significant number of votes away from McCain. Bob cannot win, but could force McCain to become more conservative or even have the opposite effect of pushing Mccain to run even father to the middle/left.

By Christine

March 26, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this

How about a Paul-Barr ticket ?

By George Whitfield

March 26, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

I hope that Bob Barr decides to run for President as the Libertarian Party nominee. There is a large group of people who have been motivated by Congressman Ron Paul’s campaign, that is very active and generous in their financial support. I think these people, who love and respect the US Constitution, would rally to support Mr. Barr. I know I would.

By George Whitfield

March 26, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

I hope that Bob Barr decides to run for President as the Libertarian Party nominee. There is a large group of people who have been motivated by Congressman Ron Paul’s campaign, that is very active and generous in their financial support. I think these people, who love and respect the US Constitution, would rally to support Mr. Barr. I know I would.

By scalawag

March 26, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Barr spent $30 million on the Clinton witch-hunt. That sounds like a bargain compared to the $1 trillion W’s spent on his Iraqi fishing expedition. ‘Can’t wait to see what worthwhile cause Mr. Barr would take up with his bully pulpit - his unending anti-gay crusade would be a dandy place to start. Stay out of Washington, Bob, PLEASE. And stay off the editorial page while you’re at it.

By Churchill

March 26, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

RU/Bar ‘08

By Churchill

March 26, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this

Since when am I behind Ru Paul, Steve? BTW, have we “went” or “gone” out of our way? I do not comprehend “government-taught” English. Peace.

By Operation DirtySanchez

March 26, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this

Barr should grow a hitler stash this should pull quite a number of rebel flag waving neocons to wast their vote peace libertarian’s your still delusional and fun

By Craig

March 26, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

Hey carbon footprint, that was a decent joke, at least the first time you said it…

I find myself increasingly impressed with Congressman Barr, much as I hate to say it. Most Republicans have long since abandoned the principles our country was founded on. Barr would be a breath of fresh air.

By Patrick

March 26, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING!

By Please Let It Be So

March 26, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

I voted for Ron Paul. And I’ll vote for Barr if he is the libertarian candidate. I hope he makes Paul his running mate, or at the very least gets his endorsement and donor list.

By Churchill

March 26, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this

RU/Bar ‘08

By Warbler

March 26, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

I would vote for Barr…if I wanted another open borders president who was a legend in his own mind. Sure…why not? If Barr knew 10% of what he pretends to know - about anything - he would be a 5 on the room temp intellect scale.

Bad year if anyone is looking at this guy as a candidate for president. But we already knew it was a bad year.

By Mitch

March 27, 2008 6:48 AM | Link to this

Bob would be the ONLY candidate I could vote for. Everyone else running is either a hard core socialist or is bought & paid for by lobbyists.

By Political Mongrel

March 27, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this

I’ve been following Mr. Barr’s career for a long time. I don’t necessarily agree with his judgment, but I’ve always been impressed by the breadth of his intelligence, his basic honesty, and his dedication to the people of his district.

By Jay

March 27, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this

After seeing how the GOP treated Ron Paul, they deserve to loose in Nov. The GO0OP is controlled by extremist. A Barr Campaign will propel the Libertarian Party to the forefront of the national public debate and give Ron Paul supports an option. As the two major parties move to the far right and left, the Libertarian Party looks more mainstream every day. They will paint Barr as a kook, a nut job, as they do everyone who supports our Constitution. What a shame! Watch the GOP campaign against Congressman Paul Broun. See how the GOP eats their young! Shame, Shame, Shame!

By Paulding Resident

March 27, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this

Bob used to be my congressman and and I worked very hard every year to make sue he stayed my congressman. I canvassed neighborhoods,made phone call,worked any way I could to help. But I must say I have lately been truly disappointed in Bob.Maybe the republican are not what they were. but to give the presidentcy to a socialist as both the Democrats is unthinkable.

By Bosch

March 27, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

Paulding Resident,

Funny thing is, he used to be my parents Congressman, and my dad used to work very hard every two years to make sure that he was thrown out!

My dad loves Barr now!

Funny how the tables turn and since he doesn’t have a Clinton to run out of office, he seems like a pretty rational guy!

By zeke

March 27, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Well BOB has lost it and become another typical nut! The last thing we need is a third party system! That would make us a third world fiasco! No President should be elected with less than 50% +1 vote! Perot effectively guaranteed Clinton’s election, and, look what a failure of morals and free government that was! Third parties only guarantee that there must be a coalition to rule! Coalitions are a failure! Conservatives MUST DEFEAT ALL LIBERALS, SOCIALISTS, MARXIST, COMMUNISTS and POPULISTS and preserve the USA as a free capitalist light to the rest of the world!

By Lewis

March 27, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

You know, when Bob Barr was my congressman I thought he was the devil personified. But since he’s left congress and said what he really thinks, I find myself gaining much more respect for him and at the very least he is consistent. I still don’t agree with him on much, but his two biggest issues - civil liberties and Iraq - I am in 100% agreement with him.

Good for you, Mr. Barr.

By Paul D. Alexander

March 27, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

He was my Congressman for years, and I’LL vote for him without hesitation, should he run for president as a Libertarian. This country’s problems are so many and varied, the two big parties are useless in solving them; all they can do is play it “safe” and think “inside the box”.

It’s time for bolder measures than that. The “lesser of two evils” is still evil.

By Analchord

March 27, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Sophistry? Bob uses that word alot. I dont think it means what he thinks it means.

Sophisty. Who’s writing for this guy?

Bob Barr’s take on Iraq is last year’s story. What Bob misses is that we didn’t liberate the Sunnis. We liberated the Shia from the Sunnis. We invaded a Sunni government and threw the evil bums out. Now we have aligned our army with the Same Sunnis to throw the elected Shia bums out who we have just liberated.

That’s what a SNAFUBAR we’ve created in Iraq.

Iraq will not end any sooner than the 14 centuries the sunnis and shias have been playing hatfield and mccoy, montigue and capulet, dogs vs cats, lions vs wildebeasts, or frankenstein vs the tiny little baby bunnies. (makes as much sense too)

It is supreme folly to think we can solve the sunni/shia death match. We can never leave iraq ever. We are trapped there for 100 years with luck, 1000 years with a couple of breaks, 10K years if the sun dont explode first.

We are trapped. Iraq is the 51st state. Lets’ call it new alabama.

By Doug Craig

March 27, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Zeke You say free ,then people like you want to keep me off the ballot. I ran as a libertarian on the Southside of Atlanta (clayton0. It was the election where Victor Hill won his first election.We spent so much time getting on the ballot we could not spend time running for office. We are required to get 2000 signatures to run for State house in georgia even if NO ONE else is running.You have differnt rules for differnt people. This does not sound free to me. www.crazyforliberty.com

By NoMorePaul

March 27, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Remember the rally to get our money back from Ron Paul. We need to volunteers to arrive early at the underdeveloped parking lot to blow up the blimp. Lets not let Dr. Ron Paul get way with theft. Shame on Ron Paul.

By Miichael Stevens

March 27, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

That’s the most idiotic thing that can happen to ensure we have Hillary or Obama in the white house for the next 4 years.

Do you really think McCain is going to change? Really? Anyone that does has not been paying attention and don’t understand why he appeals to people like me (a 47 year old Reagan conservative).

The biggest supporters for a seperate Barr ticket would be the same republicans that voted in Bush, not because they’d agree with Barr but because they can’t stand McCain.

Here’s what I would say to them: If you don’t like the nominated candidates why don’t you just write the name of Ron Paul into the ballet the same way I had to write in McCain’s the last two elections to vote my conscience. Anyone can do that.

Ron Paul had his run and wasn’t even close to the numbers Ross Perot put up. He represents to this country what Zhironovsky represents to Russia.

By Max

March 27, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

Run Bob! Run! The first thing you need to do is change the name of the Libertarian party. Call it the Freedom party to really screw up both neo-con-lib parties….

By Michael Stevens

March 27, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

Sore-loser party

By Butler T. Reynolds

March 27, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

It is time for the FDR-wing of the Republican Party to get cleaned out. I’d definitely vote for Bob Barr.

By Churchill

March 27, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

So I ran into my idiot neighbor, the Ru Paul supporter, and asked him how Ru’s campaign was going. He said, “Fine.” I asked him if he thought he might vote for McCain in Nov. He then tells me that he hopes that Ru delegates, at the convention, vote for Obama. I reminded that those delegates would not be at the Democrat convention. He looked at me and said, “you are such liar.” I had to leave at that point, for I could not contain my laughter. I love these Ru Paul-types.

By Hanoi Jane

March 27, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Frankly, Butler my dear no one give a damn what you think

By Vicki in Woodstock

March 27, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

I would contribute to a Bob Barr campaign in a heart beat!

By Fed Up

March 27, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Wow, I used to RAIL against Bob Barr and now… I almost hate to admit this… I actually admire the man. His editorials have been outstanding. I find myself in agreement with many of his ideas. I would, in fact, strongly support him in a Presidential race. Ten years ago, I wouldn’t have thought my mind could ever be changed, but he is a voice of reason in the wilderness.

By Tannim

March 27, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Hey Churchill, is your first name Ward, perhaps? Because you sure sound as stupid as he is!

Now, to contribute something meaningful:

Barr running or not is not a big deal. If he runs he adds his name to the 14 other LP candidates and Denver gets that much more crowded. If he doesn’t, well, then he still has the LNC to work with.

The question he and all Libertarians like me must answer is this: “Is he fit and ready to be the LP’s national standard-bearer?”

By Churchill

March 27, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry, Tannim. But really, does it matter? Are you staying awake at night wondering who the LP party will nominate? If so, I’m sorry two times.

RU/BAR ‘08

By DaninMacon

March 27, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Barr… whatever. The best part of this topic is banter on Ron Paul. So far, I have Churchill by a landslide.

Dude, your sarcasm/comedy is primo. Keep it up. Ron Paul suppoters are loyal to a fault. Those guys are completely nuts.

By comstock load

March 27, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

Gravel just joined the Libertarian party, too. How about a Paul/Gravel ticket, with Barr understood to be next Sec. of State, and Kirvorkian next Sec. of Health and Human Services. They don’t agree on much, but where they do, that’s the real libertarianism, not some warmed over social conservatism relabeled.

By Churchill

March 27, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

YES, YES comstock load!! YES!! I encourage all Libertarians, Libs, and Democrats to get behind your idea. Pure genius!! Best post of the month, sir.

RU/GRAVEL ‘08!!!

By wally

March 27, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

how goofy….you might as well stick with R. Paul for al that it would matter…what a waste of a good vote…

By NewFederalist

March 27, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

An extension of the Ron Paul campaign? Interesting… very interesting especially if Dr. Paul actually endorses him.

By Churchill

March 27, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

I am all for extending Ru Paul’s campaign. Go, Ru, Go.

By James Aragon

March 28, 2008 4:44 AM | Link to this

Mr. Barr,

Run! Not sure if you can win the nomination, but sound policies with ‘star’ power draw could make an interesting fall season. Now just change your mind on dictating beliefs in the military. TSgt Aragon

By MP

March 28, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

well… i dont know much about this Barr guy, but i think this is only gonna hurt Dr. Pauls campain. He has worked so hard to garner the national support that he has and these others are just trying to ride his coatails and thin out the mass that has gotten behind him therefore, really eliminating any slim chance he might have had in the first place. no liberty for the americans any time soon, id say. :(

By Louie Licktensteinski

March 28, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Barr is the answer. Only the most righteous will follow his brilliance. We will gather to behold the answer to the World’s problem. All who gather will be given a Ann Coulter hand-mirror to gaze at the problem.

By MP

March 28, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

response to “nomoreronpaul” why do you seek the money you independently gave to someone else? do you plan to go looking for the toys you gave to toys for tots last christmas too?? are you going back to the salvation army looking for all the stuff you gave to them?? good luck whith that!

By Tannim

March 28, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

“I’m sorry, Tannim. But really, does it matter? Are you staying awake at night wondering who the LP party will nominate? If so, I’m sorry two times.”

Gee, Churchill, you’re the sorriest person here, then!

No, I don’t stay awake at night worrying about it. Much bigger fish to fry in this race, starting with that bleached blowhard traitor Panamanchurian McCain and followed by Queen Hillarious the Socialist Liar.

By Doug Stewart

March 28, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

I would not be philosophically able to support a Libertarian candidate, regardless of who it might be.

I am a member of, and support the Constitution Party and their platform and soon-to-be-announced candidates.

By Analchord

March 28, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

And just what is this supposed, “Constitution”, you speak of, Mr. Stewart? I will hear of this strange thing. You will elucidate, sir.

By Churchill

March 28, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Another funny story about my idiot neighbor, the Ru Paul supporter: About a month ago I was looking out a window on the front of my house, I noticed my across the street neighbor running to the idiot’s house. I walked out of my front porch and saw the trouble. The idiot had decided to burn a pile of yard debris (Without a permit, I’m sure. Let alone the fact that we live in a nice area and it is not often that you see this sort of activity.) But he had the pile of debris to close to his brand new white BMW. The Ru supporter had not factored in the wind and the flames were licking the side of his car. He had left the fire unattended.

I saw him driving a couple of days later, and the whole side of his car seem to be damaged. Anyway, it was hilarious. I have photos of the incident.

Ru Paul ‘08

By Bar08

March 28, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

That is funny, Church. Very funny.

By Fantasia Orgasma

March 28, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

Bob Barr is my baby daddy

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March 28, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

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By Allen

March 31, 2008 1:43 AM | Link to this

Hey Doug Stewart, Ron Paul is a life member of the Libertarian party, so does your post mean you didn’t support his run for the presidency? Ron Paul believes in freedom, what do you believe in?

By Churchilll

March 31, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

Wow. Churchill sits around home spying on his neighbors. Loser.

By Nancy

March 31, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this

Popular southern political blog, FITSNews, is reporting that Bob Barr will announce his run for president next week. See link below.

http://www.fitsnews.com/2008/03/31/barr-to-announce-presidential-bid-next-week/

By Andrea

March 31, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

I was a long standing GOP supporter until I saw how the GOP treated Ron Paul. I could write volumes here, but let me just say it disgusted me so much that I decided to turn in my card and join the Libertarian Party. I’m still hoping that Dr. Paul can pull off some kind of miracle, but I’m afraid he’s been totally blocked (ironic since the very things he has been warning about - with regard to the economy - are now unfolding before our very eyes). If Bob Barr were to run, I’d seriously consider voting for him (I’ve determined to write in Ron Paul, so it would be a matter of conscience). I’ll definitely vote for him if it is a Barr/Paul ticket. Regardless, I think that a Bob Barr run would be good for this election, the country, and the Libertarian ideals upon which this country was founded (and has strayed so woefully far from).

By Immigrant

April 1, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Well first off the fact that McCain might be the Republican nominee is the insurance that a Democrat will be president. I mean honestly ACTUAL Republicans want a Republican to vote for and Amnesty McCain is a democrat, its really that simple. McCain is the one pulling people away from the Republican base, which is strange since McCain is nowhere near being a Republican or a conservative. The true conservatives will not be voting for McCain. He is unelectable and is unfit to lead. He is clueless on the constitution which is the handbook of the American presidency.

Voting for your principles is in no way a waste of time, nor a waste of energy or money. I mean if Barr does not run then this election is going to be democrat vs democrat with no conservative input what so ever……Im pretty sure nobody wants that. If Barr is the Libertarian nominee he will have my vote. I hope that the American public can wake up and realize that Amnesty McCain is a democrat aiding the democrats in winning the White House, no true conservative will waste their time on McCain’s socialist/communist type policies. The answer in this election is traditional conservatism, and Barr seems to be way closer to that than McCain. If you are a Republican, voting for a democrat anti-constitution/American like Amnesty McCain is the ACTUAL wasted vote. Sorry to break it to you.

Oh yeah and Ron Paul was the ONLY conservtive Republican in the GOP this year….there’s just no doubt about that

By Immigrant

April 1, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

When you really think about it, Amnesty McCain is truly the 3rd party candidate since he is such a hardcore anti-conservative, anti-constitution, anti-Republican.

By Patrick C

April 1, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this

Presidential elections really bring the fatheads and purists out of the woodwork to throw their size 8 1/2 hats in the ring. Doubly so if they are fathead purists. McCain really does not need this Nader-of-the-Right to screw things up for him. I hope when Mr. Barr weighs his run (cost = very expensive; chance of winning = none) that he will slither back under the rock from whence he came.

By tom ga hunter

April 1, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

I will vote for Barr for President but really wish he would run aginst Saxby Chambliss.. Georgia needs a real conservative in the Senate rather than the 2 chumps we have.

By GAConservative007

April 1, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Barry and Hillary are busy screwing each other. That’s the story, forget Bar. What is going on the left? Are they hell bent in turning an almost certain victory in to unmitigated defeat? Bar or no Bar.

By Alex

April 3, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

This is really exciting to hear. Everyone should check out Bob Barr’s debate over national security and freedom over at The Economist. I would absolutely vote for Barr (not to mention Paul) if he were to run. But I really like the idea of him running against Chambliss or Issakson. Whatever happened to true conservatism?

By West

April 4, 2008 6:40 AM | Link to this

What is barr’s solution to the immagration issue? How is he going to start pumping oil from the US so I can stop using my retirement savings to subsidize failed government policys? Are these issues not to be spoken of? If Bob Barr does not have the ability or where with all to address these issues, he needs to stay home and save everybodies money.

But if he provides sound solutions, it could be a real race….

By sammie

April 4, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this

Bob Barr running for President? Please! He has absolutely no chance of winning - he will only take away Republican votes and hand the Presidency to the Democrats. McCain is not my ideal candidate, but he beats the hell out of the other two. I voted for Barr when he ran, but now I’m sad to say I did. I hope he has the sense to drop this. If he’s set on being President, he needs to start working on 2012, not pull a ‘Perot’ in 2008.

By Fran G

April 7, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Mr. Barr, in my opinion, is a man of principles and would make a great president. Barr 2008 Presidential Exploratory Committe if you want to make a donation now to help him get on the road.

By jrwdoc

April 7, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this

Does he have a web site? Like his views and would to know more. A republican in Texas who can’t stand McCain (as in\Cain in the Bible).

By Jim S.

April 8, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

I am a conservative. I will NOT vote for McCain. I will consider Barr. I will skip the presidential election if there is no conservative on the ballet. Conservative voters will NEVER see conservative Republican candidates in federal elections again if we continue to vote for the republican “lesser of two evil” candidates, period. As long as the party thinks they can count on us to vote against the Dems despite the leftist tendencies of the republican candidate, then we conservatives are COMPLETELY marginalized. I voted for Patrick B. in 2000 and I’m glad I did. I voted for Bush in 2004 out of fear of a Kerry administration. I’ve regretted it ever since and I believe that vote set conservatives back a generation in the long run. Never again. I’m afraid we will have to stomach democratic victory for a season if we are ever to have a conservative party option again!

By Churchill

April 8, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

Jim S you voted for Pat in 2000? It seems that you have a flair for supporting unelectable candidates. I don’t think you know what you are talking about. We must defeat the democrats at all costs. It is that simple.

By John B.Miller

April 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

As a convert to the Republican cause in Georgia in the early ‘50’s I have supported Bob in his conservative battles; but I’m dead against him giving aid to the Democrats by a third party bid.Bob,don’t do it.

By Copyleft

April 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Don’t get TOO worked up, fellas… Georgia will go Republican again, and a Democratic Congress and President will take charge anyway.

You can console yourselves with the thought that “at least I didn’t ‘sell out’—” or whatever you backward types tell yourselves to feel better.

By Jim S.

April 9, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

Well, Churchill following your logic Ted Kennedy could change his registration and we should then support him against a Democratic candidate! We need to defeat liberal candidates at all cost regardless of their registration! I think liberal Republicans are more dangerous than liberal Democrats. Liberal Democrats are expected; liberal Republicans destroy my voice and assure the defeat of our party system. The only ways to end the Republican shift to the left is to stop supporting the leftist candidates or mass migration to a new party. If the Republicans have to go the way of the Whigs in order for us to have a conservative choice, so be it. I would much rather see conservatives send the Republican party a message. Find & support truly conservatives candidates or we’ll find them somewhere else.

Bob Barr may not be that conservative candidate. I will consider him. John McCain certainly is no conservative.

By Churchill

April 9, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Just like when many Republicans decided to send a message to conservatives in 1992 by voting for Perot. That really worked out well. We are still suffering from the consequences of that stupid idea. Hello!! Bill and now Hill?

By Gary

April 9, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

Excellent points, Jim S. YOu write well, my fine blogging compadre and new friend. One minor question, that I hesitate to even bring up, I beg your indulgence to consider this: could you define conservatism so that all of us voters without a party here are on the same page?

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By dallas wolff

April 28, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

All of you need to study and understand the constitution, doesnt matter what party one is in, if that individual will uphold whats in that document we might have a government agaim. Believe me it wont be Obama, Hillary or John McCain. Our constitution states that we shall maintain an army and a navy, to guard our borders and our ports. Rome tried to rule the world like Busch and company are doing. Look back at what happened to the Roman Empire.

By Mike

May 12, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

What has Barr thinking a Libertarian is a Conservative. They are not the same.

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