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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Georgia’s border war against Tennesee now has its own Facebook locale, called “35 or Fight.”
The digital militia’s leader is Lt. Col. Jason Shepherd, a local Young Republican. He lists his address as “Chattanooga, Ga.”
In reply, Tennessee has set up its own Facebook defensive force, with the more pedestrian but accurate name of “No Georgia, You Can’t Have Our Water, or Part of Tennessee.”
The provocation in all this, of course, is S.R. 822 filed by state Sen. David Shafer, which claims that the current Tennessee-Georgia border doesn’t follow the 35th parallel as it ought, but runs south of that.
By pushing north, Georgia forces can grab a bend in the Tennessee River and solve north Georgia’s water crisis.
You have to be a Facebook member to choose a side. You can be a friend, or fight. Or both. There’s no safer place for hand-to-hand combat than the Internet.
Hat tip to Blog for Democracy for this one.
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By JK
February 13, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
Thanks Gov’ner Goober. Ignore the infrastructure issues through years of unbridled population growth and development, wait until a year into a serious drought when someone tells you the lake is fixin to run dry, and then jump into action… by suing our neighbors and starting border wars. Nice work, all you GOOBERS who voted for this GOOBER! Idiots.
By Zackybear
February 13, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
If you are not smart enough to solve your problems just steal what you need. What a great message Georgia is sending by this pathetic attempt.
By MS
February 13, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
If Florida and Alabama can get our water, its only natural to look North. IF we cant keep OUR water for Georgia, and have to send our water south by force, why shouldnt any other state????
By Will
February 13, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Perdue has been Governor for five years. Our water crisis has been developing over the last three decades. I don’t think he deserves all the blame.
By james
February 13, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
We need our water back Tennessee!!
By David
February 13, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
It is typical that a UGA surveyor is the one who messed the border up. They should have let a GA Tech graduate do it and it would have been done right…………
By David
February 13, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
It is typical that a UGA surveyor is the one who messed the border up. They should have let a GA Tech graduate do it and it would have been done right…………
By Phil
February 13, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Lets start our war with Tennessee on a sunday, that way when we cross the line we can buy beer before we take over all the fireworks stands. We can use the bottlerockets as a deversion on our way to the river.
By Tray
February 13, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
Though i do like the idea of ‘attacking’ Tennessee on a Sunday, i personally think the governor should move the northern border all the way to Canada…I’m sure the other states wouldn’t mind, and we’d get all the water from the Great Lakes!
On a side note…Perdue is an idiot, and yes, i do blame him (by him i mean him and the state gov’t.). Even if the water has been slowly disappearing over 3 decades, he’s the one who is spening taxpayer money to fight in courts rather than spending it on building more lakes, water towers, whatever!
PERDUE MUST GO…RELIGIOUS FREAKS WHO WANT US TO LIVE THE WAY THEY LIVE NEED TO LEAVE THE U.S.!!!
Don’t force your views on me Sonny…
By the truth
February 13, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
Water problems go back a long way. The problem is GOVERNMENT! Get it? It’s not one governors fault. Everything the government touches is ridiculous. This is the same type of government that wants total control of health care. Wake up people!
By NW GA
February 13, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
I live in Catoosa County 10 miles south of the state line. We already get our water from the TN River basin, so this ham-fisted attempt to get my neighbor’s water is embarrassing for GA border dwellers and doesn’t do a thing for me. Maybe I could make some money off these opposing armies if they use my property as a staging area. By the way…no need to BYOB, the beer aisle at the new Publix in Chattanooga isn’t dark on Sundays. However, Chattanooga/Hamilton County doesn’t allow fireworks-so stock up in Bama before you come.
By JK is an Idiot.
February 13, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
Hey JK Georiga was 50th in education thanks to the numerous Redneck Govs before him including Roy FAT A* Barnes.
By Huh?
February 13, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
Tray, it sounds like you need to crack open your tolerance book and read a chapter or two.
By Jack Bear
February 13, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
As usual. Our government, be it local, state or Fed, is a “Re-active” government and not a “Pro-active” government. This issue with the northern border has been around for years. Even if the border was correct. The drought would still happen. Only we would be trying to figure out how to get the water from there to here. Still we would not have a place to put the water.
This is really an embarrassment for us all. Poor planning in controlling growth and not taxing all fairly to help support the infrastructure. Is that not correct Mr. Builder Association? Maybe those with (I) next to their names on th ballots should be removed from office.
Jack Bear
By jeff
February 13, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
First of all, The line was set by Congress in the early 1800’s. The crew that laid the survey was wrong and that is not Georgia fault. This is Georgia right to have this problem fixed. As far as water goes, if Florida and Alabama would build there own water reserves then Atlanta would not have a water shortage. And about 98% of the growth her in the metro area is from another part of the country and they are using water so again, not Georgia’s fault.
And to Trey, When you pass on, You will be very warm I suspect!!!
By ryan
February 13, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
another typical dirty move by the dirties government in the USA. I love my hometown of Jasper TN and GA will never get our water!!!!!
By Kent Eckman
February 13, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
When are people going to talk about limiting growth in GA? I would say no new ‘development’ until you tell me where the water is going to come from.
In a state that is rich with water resources we are going to end up living under severe restrictions on private use just because of short-sighted government and overzeleous developers.
My view is a simple one. A household should be able to use a reasonable amount of water. This includes watering the landscape and washing cars. If we don’t have enough water to do that now we shouldn’t be adding more houses. 100,000 new people per year?
I’d also like people to get over or around a negative view of septic tanks. I know where my sewage goes and how it is treated, and it doesn’t cost the taxpayer a dime. Guess what? It does end up back in the watershed, after bacteria eat it and it flows through the ground. None of my wastewater is lost to evaporation and if there’s a lot of rain I don’t dump the excess into creeks and rivers because I can’t handle the volume.
Why do developers and city/county/state governments want waste water treatment plants? It’s all about money. They want to pack a lot of houses on small lots; more money for the ‘developers’ and more tax dollars per acre of housing.
As a carpenter I’d like to see a focus on the rebuilding of distressed areas, that are already connected to the water grid.
Thanky you for your attention. Kent
By Wozzo the Wonder Dog
February 13, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this
If we attack Tennessee, can we put Vince Dooley in charge?
By tc
February 13, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this
Its all a plot by the feds. They are pitting old friends(Tenn.,Alabama,Georgia)againest each other to make sure they never regroup again. Its those dam yankees!
By pERDUE
February 13, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this
We will hold a prayer service for Tennessee next week and pray for victory. Note: As global warming continues and polar ice cap melts, more water will be available to the north. So Tennessee goes to KY. KY goes to Indiana and Ohio; they go to Michigan and Wisconsin; then next is Canada and that’s it. That’s a Perdue solution to this problem.
By GeezGuys
February 13, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this
I know where my sewage goes and how it is treated, and it doesn’t cost the taxpayer a dime.
Awesome, Kent, but there are a few thousand (at the least) other septic tanks that pollute the h3ll out of our water. There’s a fair amount of care involved, mostly not putting things down the drain that most homeowners…well, put down the drain.
An amazing number of those Gwinnett subdivisions have septic tanks. Think of those houses rented out, do you think those septic tanks are environmentally happy? Uh-uh. Even a lot of people who are homeowners don’t understand how to maintain them so they don’t pollute everything.
So, Kent, that’s why we complain about septic tanks. There are too many people out there who can’t tie their own shoes, I don’t want them in charge of sewage management. Same as cars…you live in a suburban/urban area, you can’t just pretend you’re living in the boonies.
By GRH
February 13, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this
According to information I have from a paper on the Border dispute from the early 1800’s, Georgia agreed to accept the line as drawn by Carmak 1818 on March 29, 1923 as the true boundary between the states. This makes the question moot. The only question is exactly where does the Carmak line go between McCaysville, Ga. and Copperhill, Tn. There is about a 50 foot difference of opinion.
By Kent Eckman
February 13, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this
Geez,
About the septic tanks. Your post sort of illustrates a lot of the misinformation out there about septic tanks.
If you don’t take care of your septic tank it doesn’t work, then nothing drains in your house, including toilets, then you pay to have it fixed. Guess what? People take care of their septic systems.
I should also point out that all new septic tanks are inspected as they are put in. The current technology is more than efficiant.
In contrast most water utilities in GA are losing 25% of the treated water before it gets to a person’s tap. Are you trusting them to transport sewage in pipes?
Kent
By GodHatesTrash
February 13, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this
Two states chock full of filthy rednecks fighting over water?
When was hygiene ever important to you inbred yahoos? Y’all are trash. Both sides of the 35th parallel.
By ChattGirl
February 14, 2008 1:43 AM | Link to this
As a native Chattanoogan, I think that this border war is so stupid!
The argument is that the north and south borders of the state of Tennesee are off by a few miles. This was done by old surveying in the 1800s. Changing it now to what it was “supposed” to be would also affect all of the 8 states that touch Tennessee. Come on Georgia, Changing your state line will also change Alabama and Mississippi’s state line too geniuses… And I don’t think that some citizens of Memphis and other border cities will be happy with that…
Okay… You want water…from the Tennessee River… Just because you think that you could just drain the water from there if you pull this fiasco doesn’t mean that it’s true.. TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority) is over that waterway, so you would have to deal with them..
Last I checked, Georgia is a coastal state… Could you just get water from the Atlantic Ocean? Clean it and use it…
Also, I live 3 minutes from the state line, and if this fiasco goes through, all you’re going to get is new p** off North Georgians (‘cause North Georgians already feel like “stepchildren” to the states anyway and claim Chattanooga, TN) that would have to change license plates, car registrations, residence information, and move to a state income tax.
By Danny O
February 14, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
Here’s an idea: Why not just restrict the residents of a watershed to using the resources in their area? If God wanted water from the Tennessee River to flow to Atlanta, he wouldn’t have put it so far north!