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By Lee

December 7, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

Andy Young is the Judas of the Civil Rights Movement… an inside informant who was never arrested for his supposed activism during the 1960’s. Andy is not a Tom but a Pure OREO.

By Matlock

December 7, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this

Andy says that Obama needs to build a support network similar to the one that Mrs. Clinton built for her husband to defend him against the women with whom he had affairs.

Nothing like settin’ those high standards, eh Andy?

By Justin

December 7, 2007 9:09 PM | Link to this

I agree with Andy Young. Obama is not ready now. Maybe by 2012 or 2016, but not now.

By T

December 7, 2007 9:27 PM | Link to this

Is there no end to stupid remarks by Hillary supporters.Mister Young keep your mouth shut and let us guess if your an idiot or not, instead of openning it and proving us right.

By Jim A.

December 7, 2007 9:37 PM | Link to this

I don’t know that much about the Democratic canidates, exxcept that Hillary is dangerous!!

By te

December 7, 2007 9:38 PM | Link to this

Does not make any sense.

By T

December 7, 2007 10:13 PM | Link to this

What does Huckabee have to do with this forum??????????????

By Cactus

December 7, 2007 10:15 PM | Link to this

The more celebs endorsements you have the less likely I will vote for you.

By Churchill

December 7, 2007 10:29 PM | Link to this

It is Hillary’s turn, by God. Young, knows it. Hillary knows it. The media know it. Wake up Barry, and keep your mouth shut while Hillary claims what is hers.

By Sam I Am

December 7, 2007 10:50 PM | Link to this

It’s pure luck that Obama was elected to the Senate, when the leading Republican candidate withdrew. Conversely, he was elected to the Illinois House, on his own merits.

Hillaty is claiming White House accomplishments between 1993 and 2000 as her own. Since she has “served part of two terms as President” doesn’t the 23rd Amendment keep her from running?

By GW

December 7, 2007 11:19 PM | Link to this

This is sad. So many of the old guard civil rights personalities seem to be lost. I can understand if they have some political debts that they owe the Clintons, but they probably don’t. Andy joins John Lewis, Al Sharpton, Sheila Jackson Lee, Kendrick Meek of the Congressional Black Caucus in giving their blessing to Hillary. To me this is like choosing the White doll over the Black doll, or Little Eva back home on the plantation. It’s interesting that Andy is backing Hillary as is Walter Mondale, who incurred the wrath of the former Vice President during his run for the presidency. Andy, it was reported, walked out of a meeting during the convention because the Democrats were full “….of too many smart assed white boys who think they know everything.”

Do Black people still listen to this man? I heard Shelby Steele say the same thing about Hillary being more Black than Obama. This is a bizarre concept in 2007, where having a message that has a broad appeal is important. The fact that he was not hosed down by the cops or bitten by police dogs does not make him less a man of the struggle than any of the old guard. As a matter of fact all the marching, and sitting in and boycotts made it possible for this door to open to him. Anybody else could have taken up this challenge, but nobody else did. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton both ran, but they were one trick ponies with more negatives than positives.

Wait until 2016? The time is now. America is ready for the first Black man to lead this country. African Americans are probably the only interest group in this country who are so divided about supporting a member. That is almost shameful.

By RJ

December 7, 2007 11:32 PM | Link to this

Andy has apparently been in space for the last seven years? President Bush has redefined qualifications for readiness to be President.

I have not decided on a candidate yet but from what I have seen,heard, and read Obama is exceptionally bright and has a better potential to grow into the Presidency than the current one.

By Wackolibhack

December 7, 2007 11:40 PM | Link to this

It is Bush’s fault that Andy Young does not think that Obama can’t “grow into the Presidency”.

By GA_Independent

December 8, 2007 12:02 AM | Link to this

The truth is that Andrew Young has become increasingly irrelevent. He like many other civil rights icons are a sad group of people. We will always be appreciative to their sacrifices. However, we can also see when these men are falling in line for the system that they supposedly fight (like Young’s actions when defending Wal-Mart’s obvious questionable practices).

Hillary Clinton represents the system. Either voters are going to grasp the reality that this system does not aid our country, particularly African-Americans or they are going to fall in line like the sheep Andy Young runs with. Barack Obama and/or John Edward present a hope that something in the system will change. I would go so far to say that Republicans like John McCain, Ron Paul, and Mike Huckabee represent more change for America and African-Americans than Hillary Clinton.

By GA_Independent

December 8, 2007 12:16 AM | Link to this

What is Andy Young going to say should Barack Obama win the Democratic primary? What an idiot! Republicans are going to use what clowns like Andy Young say against Obama in the General Elections. Obama is ahead in Iowa and New Hampshire. No matter what Young says, when Obama wins in Iowa and NH (not the most diverse states in America). I love the way Obama is placing the system on its head. That includes Hillary Clinton, who is more of the same old failed system.

By Jay N Tha ATL

December 8, 2007 1:18 AM | Link to this

Many of you are just now seeing the Andy Young that I know. The bitter, old, a**hole of a man. I lost respect for him years ago as a 9 y/o boy. I still wonder how it is that all of King’s aides were millionaires, but Coretta wasn’t. The true MAN (mind, body, and soul) out of that civil rights error is Rev. Dr. Joseph Lowery!

By Jay N Tha ATL

December 8, 2007 1:28 AM | Link to this

Andy Young is an old, tired, whipping boy that owes the Clintons favors. It amazes me that so many people are just now starting to see Andy for the ZERO that he really is. He made millions off of the backs of the poor and blacks, and sold them both out in that same order. Hillary and Bill together could never be more black that Obama. However, they may be more black that Andy!

By Downtown Guy

December 8, 2007 2:20 AM | Link to this

The last time that we elected a democrat that wasn’t really ready to handle Washington, was November 1976. I love Jimmy, but the way that he handled the democrats in DC was an absolute disaster. That’s where our concerns with Obama originate.

Is he ready for prime time? I hope so, but I have a sinking feeling that he’s not. He’s needed in the Senate….For that matter, so is Hillary, and Joe Biden. Hey, so what about Joe??? He’s got some gravitas, and he gets no press. Most folks like hearing what he has to say, but like Ron Paul, he’s just pushed over to the edges so that we can run the same old beauty contest….John Edwards…pretty face…empty suit….without much more time in the Senate than Obama. Sounds good sometimes, but I just don’t know. He didn’t impress me when he had such a back stage presence to Kerry’s nonsense. I can’t believe that he can really be all that strong given how horrible Kerry’s campaign was in the South.

I’m still completely undecided. At least a good showing by Obama will keep the candidates from feeling too comfortable about having everything all locked up.

I’d definitely take any one of them over a a White House led by another Republican…talk about not being ready for prime time….The mess we’re in will take decades to clean up.

By marcus

December 8, 2007 5:20 AM | Link to this

andy young is a dinosaur; just like publicity seeking, money grubbing, relics like sharpton and jackson. he commands respect for the work he did with king during the civil rights movement of the 60’s, but he is not the voice of black america. he will always have a permanent place in georgian and american history, but its time for him to exit the stage. did he speak up when an illiterate president took us to war, turned his back on “our own gulf coast” and taken us to the point of recession, while padding the pockets of his oil and military contractor buddies. sure, during mr. young’s time as mayor atlanta boomed, but at what expense? homelessness was rampant, crime and illiteracy soared, was he ready? the carpetbaggers came through atlanta like sherman, but we turned a blind eye, because it was andy and we thought things would be different. we hoped he’d make things right. obama is hundred times smarter than bush, he may not be as skilled a liar as he is, but give him a chance to show the world the kind of leader he can become. history will show that we allowed bush to take office and lead this country astray. we should have fought for gore. imagine how strong, prosperous and appealing the united states would be if gore had served this past eight years. don’t let another old, bitter, relic dissuade you from voting for the best qualified person for the office of president of the united states; regardless of who you choose.

By the jena 6

December 8, 2007 6:28 AM | Link to this

Andy Young continues to represent the values of White America. His comments are nothing new, but is misguided as the American Justice System in its dealing with Black folks.

By MelloG

December 8, 2007 7:13 AM | Link to this

This is sad & I believe that this shows why there is a generational disconnect to the leaders of the old guard civil rights movement.. To even suggest that dancing thru a soul train line gives evidence that the Clintons understand black people is idiotic….. Until the past few months I was willing to consider voting for Edwards, Obama, or Clinton. It does not appear that Young even gave anyone but Hilary a consideration. I continue to be amazed how these former agitators (Sharpton, Young, Jesse) can blindly support the establishment (Clinton’s, John Kerry) without giving any public possiblility of consideration for Obama. We should repect Young for his work in the most important political movement in this country’s history but be disapointed that he has become what he fought against.

By Joyce

December 8, 2007 7:32 AM | Link to this

I wish this generation would remember that being older means being wiser and more experienced. Not, as one comment suggested, “a dinosaur.” Andy Young has known more, seen more, done more and is not white, but he is black and loves the fact that he is. He is, however, comfortable in his own skin and I think the black population should pay more attention to his assessment of B. Obama than Oprah’s. Oprah is a talk-show host and has done nothing that I know of for the black population of America, instead opting to spend her millions in Africa. So, I say, listen to Andy; he knows of what he speaks!

By Young-n-beautiful

December 8, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

Wow. Andy Young looks terrible. He has more bags than a grocery store. He needs some serious rest. Maybe some botox.

By Morris Hames

December 8, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this

Bill and Hillary Clinton are nothing but grifters living off suckers like Andrew Young who are too dumb to know they are being taken.

Barack Obama is at least as experienced as John Edwards.

You idiots will still vote whichever one wins the nomination anyway, so tell me what’s the point in getting all lathered up about the nonsensical utterances of an irrelevant old man?

By Sue

December 8, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

It’s Hillary’s turn? Her turn for what? To turn this into a Socialist country? I’m sorry I’d rather have Obama in the White House than that snake. I work too hard for my money to be punished and forced to participate in the government programs that she wants to create.

By TheDerriks

December 8, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

That just motivated me to make a donation to Obama’s campaign. It’s sad to see someone you respect decline like Andy has in recent years.

By Preston

December 8, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

It is sad to see the self hate that permeates from the “old guard”. On Young’s comment that Obama is too young for the Presidency. What if MLK had waited to be older? We would probably be in the same situation today. None of the old guard has the courage to stand up for what is right unless their is a dollar sign attached to it. Ain’t that right Jesse? Thank God that I can make my own mind up and that I do not follow the voice of our so called leaders. I encourage everyone to do the same…because if youkeep listening to the same old tired voices you will keep getting the same old tired outcomes. When will people realize that these old tired folks owe their lives to the Clinton’s. God gave you a brain….use it.

By Denny Wilson

December 8, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

Andy Young still thinks that he has the power to lead Black America. Well, Mr. Young, I think you just gave Obama his reason for being in the race. What happened to “he ain’t heavy, he’s my brother”, Mr. Young.

Please take a back seat and discontinue your comments when it comes to Black America. You are no longer our leader!

By Lucas

December 8, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this

Andrew Young is a leader whose time has passed. The status quo serves his interest in representing corporate america (wal-mart, delta, falcons,…) not to mention his close ties to the corrupt Nigerian government. From his racist comment about Korean and Jewish store owners to this irresponsible one about Obama shows the deterioration of his judgement. He reminds me of my crazy uncle that no one pays attention at family reunions.

By sam

December 8, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this

I am a black senior citizen. Not quite as old as Andy but I lived through the civil rights movement. At this stage of life I find myself having to be cognizant of being too cynical. If I understand the objections that Andy posed regarding Obama’s youth is the only thing he has against him being president my answer to that is: SUPPORT him then. Make sure he DOES have the support he needs while he is maturing..Don t let him be out there alone, if that s the case…Andy and all of the old cronies have the power to help the brilliant man of character. Obama is the kind of black man that Martin Luther King fought for. He is no younger than John F Kennedy was when he ran for president. Careful Mr. Young: your age is showing and not in the way you think…Old stuffy ways…

By TDub

December 8, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Andrew Young is a shadow of his former self. This reminds me of Shelby Steele’s commentary in Time last week regarding “the masks we wear for advantage in the American mainstream: bargaining and challenging.” It’s clear that Young is simply another challenger well past any sort of relevance, like Sharpton and Jackson. Obama is smart, thoughtful, inspiring, and ready, and that’s why I - a post-grad educated, upper-middle class, suburban caucasian - am supporting him.

By SharonH

December 8, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

Andy Young(and Zell Miller too but that’s for another discussion) is proof that age does not equal wisdom. In fact using him and the aforementioned Miller as examples, age is beginning to equal crazy: foaming at the mouth, backstabbing, two-faced crazy. I will never forget him urging us to accept George Bush, his love for neocon warmonger Paul Wolfowitz and most chillingly, his endorsement of John freakin’ Ashcroft as a “real nice guy”. That’s right Andy, we haven’t forgotten. For you to vouch for that guy speaks volumes about you and your word is mud as far as I’m concerned. I’ve been going back and forth between Hilary and Obama but you just cinched it: Obama all the way!

By Preston

December 8, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

You have got to be kidding? Oprah has done more for the blacks here than Andy has done in his life time. Oprah has shown little black girls that they can overcome obstacles such as child abuse and become succesful. Andy is bitter that he has not had the financial success as others that were in the movement. MLK’s dream was to be able to see us participate in the political process just like anyone else. Are we not smart enough to be president? I do not know about you but I came from a family where I was taught that I TOO could be President. What you are saying is that your son or daughter will never be good enough to be president. I have nothing but love for Oprah for putting a school in Africa. She does stuff in America as well. Wake up and stop sniffing the backside of these old dinosaurs who did not have the balls after MLK was killed to continue the struggle.

By SharonH

December 8, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

Andrew Young: *”I want Obama to be president because he had a Chinese half-sister …. and he went to Islamic schools in Indonesia. The two greatest problems we face in the future are China and Islam.” Okay Mr. Young I am no longer mad at you, I am now officially cringing in embarassment for you.

By the way if leadership requires suffering, what suffering has Hilary endured except a cheating husband in which case I should be the freakin’ president! Sheesh….

By MissV-Raleigh

December 8, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

Has He Sold Himself Out Again? Last time it was Walmart. This time he appears to be on Mrs. Clinton’s payroll, as seems to be most of the crowd of his era. Fortunately, younger voters are realizing the difference between those who are for all of us vs. those who are only for themselves. http://reclaimdemocracy.org/walmart/2006/andrewyoungblackcommentator.php

By MissV

December 8, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this

Has He Sold Himself Out Again? Last time it was Walmart. This time he appears to be on Mrs. Clinton’s payroll, as seems to be most of the crowd of his era. Fortunately, younger voters are realizing the difference between those who are for all of us vs. those who are only for themselves, and perhaps some sort of job for their great-grandchildren. Eating cheese and chitterlings raises the cholesterol.

By Dan

December 8, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

Big surprise

Andrew Young is part of the past rather than the future of the Democratic party and has a clear history of being willing to say just about anything if the price is right.

Wonder what his price was for this endorsement.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

I am not going to diss Mr. Young, cause I do appreciate his participation in the civil rights era, and am a grateful benefactor from it. I would however like to day that for the first time ever and maybe never for a long time again, we have an educated, articulate, seemingly decent candidate in Obama with that is being considered very strongly for the highest office in this land. I think that Andy Young, Jackson, Sharpton are represent the rift that young blacks have with the old guard of blacks. I mean at what point will we as a people feel we do not owe the Clintons. The 90’s was a great time for black America, no doubt better than now, but it is time to move on. I think that the Washington experience that has governed us for the past 8 yrs have shown that it is not all it is cracked up to be and it is now like George Bush is the prime decision maker, he has advisers, as well Mr Obama when he becomes president. I think that he is refreshing and defnitely something new, even though I don’t think he could carry one southern state, but that is another conversation. One last thing, and it may come as big news for some readers. Jackson, Sharpton, Young, Lewis,DO NOT SPEAK FOR MOST BLACK PEOPLE. We are a race of people that do have independent FREE thinkers.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

I am not going to diss Mr. Young, cause I do appreciate his participation in the civil rights era, and am a grateful benefactor from it. I would however like to say that for the first time ever and maybe never for a long time again, we have an educated, articulate, seemingly decent candidate in Obama that is being considered very strongly for the highest office in this land. I think that Andy Young, Jackson, Sharpton represent the rift that young blacks have with the old guard of blacks. I mean at what point will we as a people feel we do not owe the Clintons. The 90’s was a great time for black America, no doubt better than now, but it is time to move on. I think that the Washington experience that has governed us for the past 8 yrs have shown that it is not all it is cracked up to be and it is not like George Bush is the prime decision maker, he has advisers, as well as Mr Obama when he becomes president. I think that he is refreshing and defnitely something new, even though I don’t think he could carry one southern state, but that is another conversation. One last thing, and it may come as big news for some readers. Jackson, Sharpton, Young, Lewis,DO NOT SPEAK FOR MOST BLACK PEOPLE. We are a race of people that do have independent FREE thinkers.

By barb

December 8, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Joyce I’m blown away that you can say Andy Young speaks from wisdom of age. Maynard Jackson died when his time came he was over weight and more than likely not follow a dietary and exercise plan his doctor suggested (as do many over weight people) Bill Campbell chose to enrich himself at the expense of the citizens who elected him, that was his chose age had nothing to do with it. If you’re a thief or liar as a young man chances are you’ll remain on as an n old man. I’m also amazed at the mention of Bill Clinton’s name I did not know he was running! Also what doses being black have to do with anything? In Bill’s case it seems that that title was thrown on as his bad behavior was exposed (smoking marijuana but not inhaling, extra marital affairs, forcing himself on one woman and denying the other until his semen was found on her dress!) oh yeah his best bud was Jordan whom helped to clean up Hubble and Lewinsky mess. The comment Andy made about Bill knowing more Black women than Barack, what dose that mean? Once again are we making disparaging remarks about Black women, or is this okay because like rappers Andy is black and gets a pass? On the subject of Oprah everyone seems to have forgotten that she supported and paid for the education of black students early in her career. Her support of Morehouse and Spellman to the tune of millions. Her continual support and heart felt giving to thousands regardless of color make her a creditable spokesperson. She did not support Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton for President and they’re Black! She jumped into to this after witnessing his work in the field, when no one was looking no reporters or cameras. She feels Barack can make a difference for this country. That is a reason to support a candidate not political favors or party affiliation. Also once again Bill is not running tell me why we should elect Hillary, what is her experience, how well can she work with those she does not agree with (Republicans)? Is she approachable we need people in office that can sit down and talk negotiate the time for welding the ax is over we have to find away to live in this world together in some relative harmony. As the Middle East has shown fighting can last over a thousand years and nothing gets done. Wisdom can come from the mouth of babes.

By Barb

December 8, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

Joyce I’m blown away that you can say Andy Young speaks from wisdom of age. Maynard Jackson died when his time came he was over weight and more than likely not follow a dietary and exercise plan his doctor suggested (as do many over weight people) Bill Campbell chose to enrich himself at the expense of the citizens who elected him, that was his chose age had nothing to do with it. If you’re a thief or liar as a young man chances are you’ll remain on as an n old man. I’m also amazed at the mention of Bill Clinton’s name I did not know he was running! Also what doses being black have to do with anything? In Bill’s case it seems that that title was thrown on as his bad behavior was exposed (smoking marijuana but not inhaling, extra marital affairs, forcing himself on one woman and denying the other until his semen was found on her dress!) oh yeah his best bud was Jordan whom helped to clean up Hubble and Lewinsky mess. The comment Andy made about Bill knowing more Black women than Barack, what dose that mean? Once again are we making disparaging remarks about Black women, or is this okay because like rappers Andy is black and gets a pass? On the subject of Oprah everyone seems to have forgotten that she supported and paid for the education of black students early in her career. Her support of Morehouse and Spellman to the tune of millions. Her continual support and heart felt giving to thousands regardless of color make her a creditable spokesperson. She did not support Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton for President and they’re Black! She jumped into to this after witnessing his work in the field, when no one was looking no reporters or cameras. She feels Barack can make a difference for this country. That is a reason to support a candidate not political favors or party affiliation. Also once again Bill is not running tell me why we should elect Hillary, what is her experience, how well can she work with those she does not agree with (Republicans)? Is she approachable we need people in office that can sit down and talk negotiate the time for welding the ax is over we have to find away to live in this world together in some relative harmony. As the Middle East has shown fighting can last over a thousand years and nothing gets done. Wisdom can come from the mouth of babes.

By herbert

December 8, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

I am still waiting for Sam Nunn to step into the ring. I wouldn’t vote for any of these yardbirds. How come no one has said anything about Andy saying “Bill has probably dated more black women than Obama”?

By Just Groovy

December 8, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this

SHUT UP Andy!! Go grab your wheelchair and hearing aid.

By Civil and Human Rights for All!

December 8, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

What nonsense and rubbish on this blog. I hear all this talk of the Civil Rights Movement blah blah blah. Neither Andy Young nor Hillary Clinton nor Barrack have spoken out against the massive and unrelenting black on white crimes, murder, rape, car jacking, and neighborhood and city racial cleansing. Do you idiots think this is being ignored? Maybe you ignore it but a rising voice is yelling to address this issue. Atlanta is a prime example of this. While the great and wonderful Civil Rights Movement that the Godly saints have led has been going on since MLK march on DC, more than 250,000 whites have been killed. The black and white civil rights shysters are silent. Do they condone the genocide? It appears so.

By MARC

December 8, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

PEOPLE WAKE UP! ANDREW YOUNG IS 100% RIGHT!!!!! I’M BLACK SO DON’T GET ME WRONG, HILLARY IS THE BEST CANIDATE RIGHT NOW! DON’T BE STUCK ON OBAMA IS BLACK. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE A BLACK PRESIDENT ONE DAY,BUT REMEMBER PEOPLE WE HAD SOME OF OUR BEST TIMES WITH THE CLINTONS IN THE WHITE HOUSE! ANDY IS NOT TO OLD TO REMEMBER THAT! THE SOUL TRAIN LINE COMMENT BY ANDY WAS SYMBOLIC FOR SAYING THAT THEY ARE REAL PEOPLE AND WILL RUN THE COUNTRY LIKE REAL PEOPLE, NOT LIKE THE ROBOTIC APROACH THAT BUSH HAS CHOSEN WITH NO COMPASSION OR REALIZATION THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT WITH THERE FAMILIES (LIKE HE IS)FOR A WAR THAT IS GAINING NO GROUND. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT DOES MATTER WHAT RACES YOU GREW UP AROUND. COLLEGE IS LIKE A CULTURE SHOCK TO A LOT OF RACES, BECAUSE THEY ARE USE TO BEING WITH JUST ONE SET OF PEOPLE. YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH ALL RACES, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS MOST RACES DO AND THINK DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER RACES, BECAUSE THERE ENVIORMENT HAS SHAPED THEM INTO WHO THEY ARE AND HOW THEY THINK. IT TAKES SOMEONE WHO CAN RELATE TO ALL TO CHANGE MINDS OF SOME THAT ARE TO INGNORANT TO KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG OR THAT JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND A CHANGE IS NEEDED! THAT WAS CLEAR WITH THE RE ELECTION OF MR. BUSH, WE GOT DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO A HOLE, SO FAR THAT THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR HIM REGRET IT NOW!!!!

By Jeff

December 8, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

As a middle class white voter, I could not care less which candidate is the blackest. I’m supporting Barack because I share his vision of a unified America. I don’t think America can afford to wait until 2016. Barack Obama is the kind of charismatic visionary we need in the White House NOW. If Barack wins the nomination I will vote for him in November. I will not cast a vote for Hillary Clinton under any circumstances.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this

Herbert, no trying to start an argument of get into a long blog trail back and forth. The comment about bill dating more black women is not even worthy of intelligent people time. So I feel no one should or will even acknowledge it, plus even if he did, he married a white woman, marrying a black woman in Arkansas might would have not been good for one’s political aspirations

By Mad Mfker

December 8, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this

I can’t believe this old basturd endorses Hillary over Obama!! What was the purpose of these old farts leading the civil rights movement? As I always thought, Bill Clinton is calling in a lot of political favors that he gave to these phucks while in office. When Clinton flew many of these clows to to Africa on Air Force One he should have left them over there!!!

Is this being a sellout? I’m just ranting…..

By Just Wondering

December 8, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

I didn’t realize Atlanta was connected to civil rights. If so, why is it so segregated. Why can’t non-blacks live in black neighborhoods without being victimized and run out? Why is that mural of that black racist founder of the hate group Nation of Islam so close to the historical black colleges in Atlanta? Is phoniness at an all time high here?

By herb

December 8, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

I am still waiting for Sam Nunn to decide to run. I would not vote for any of these yardbirds. Why has no one said anything about Andy’s comment “Bill has probably dated more black women than Obama”?

By Mad Black Man

December 8, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

When Bill Clinton took those those “so-called” Black leaders to Africa in Air Force One, he should have left them over there.

This is a sad day for African-Americans in Atlanta.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

c’mon the comment by Civil and Human Rights for All!is absolutely ridiculous, black on white crime. I guess it was only a matter of time before the finatics showed up. Please let’s keep this intelligent and keep it moving. Also, if anything look at the news and papers, plenty blacks killing blacks haven’t seen to many of those black on white stories. Sorry dude!!!!!

By Marc

December 8, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

PEOPLE WAKE UP! ANDREW YOUNG IS 100% RIGHT!!!!! I’M BLACK SO DON’T GET ME WRONG, HILLARY IS THE BEST CANIDATE RIGHT NOW! DON’T BE STUCK ON OBAMA IS BLACK. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE A BLACK PRESIDENT ONE DAY,BUT REMEMBER PEOPLE WE HAD SOME OF OUR BEST TIMES WITH THE CLINTONS IN THE WHITE HOUSE! ANDY IS NOT TO OLD TO REMEMBER THAT! THE SOUL TRAIN LINE COMMENT BY ANDY WAS SYMBOLIC FOR SAYING THAT THEY ARE REAL PEOPLE AND WILL RUN THE COUNTRY LIKE REAL PEOPLE, NOT LIKE THE ROBOTIC APROACH THAT BUSH HAS CHOSEN WITH NO COMPASSION OR REALIZATION THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT WITH THERE FAMILIES (LIKE HE IS)FOR A WAR THAT IS GAINING NO GROUND. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT DOES MATTER WHAT RACES YOU GREW UP AROUND. COLLEGE IS LIKE A CULTURE SHOCK TO A LOT OF RACES, BECAUSE THEY ARE USE TO BEING WITH JUST ONE SET OF PEOPLE. YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH ALL RACES, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS MOST RACES DO AND THINK DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER RACES, BECAUSE THERE ENVIORMENT HAS SHAPED THEM INTO WHO THEY ARE AND HOW THEY THINK. IT TAKES SOMEONE WHO CAN RELATE TO ALL TO CHANGE MINDS OF SOME THAT ARE TO INGNORANT TO KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG OR THAT JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND A CHANGE IS NEEDED! THAT WAS CLEAR WITH THE RE ELECTION OF MR. BUSH, WE GOT DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO A HOLE, SO FAR THAT THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR HIM REGRET IT NOW!!!!

By NPF

December 8, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Andy Young is irrelevant and has been for a very long time. The wise crack about ethnicity was disappointing.

By fcsanders

December 8, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Hillary is too old and belongs to the old school of politics.The Clintons had their day in the 90’s and just need to retire/leave government to a new fresh younger culture.Plus Hillary is a socialist of the European style…we sure don’t need that.

By A Proud American Citizen

December 8, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

I don’t know about Obama, but youth is NOT the issue. Fresh, clear unencumbered ideas without commitments to old party mandates are needed. The Democratic party leaders commitment to gun control just about nuked any chances they would have at securing the vote of a vast majority of Americans. Shoving gun control down our throats just because they could was a mistake.

H. Clinton is definitely part of that Washington status quo and therefore will not be elected. We need fresh ideas and a commitment to the will of the people (NOT Wall Street, the Financial CEO’s, the Very Rich or foreign countries like Israel, China or Mexico) which I don’t think she has.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

C’mon the comments by Just Wondering are not neccessary. But like I said it only takes a few comments before the finatics show up, guess you and Civil and Human Rights for All! attend the same Klan rallys. Please let’s keep it moving in here and not become stagnate with stupidity. Also this further validates my belief that we as a country are not ready for any persons of color for President or a woman

By W. Jones

December 8, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Andrew Young is under the impression that Black people are still looking for leaders to tell us what to do. After all we, Black people cannot think independently. If Andrew Young says we must vote for Hillary, then vote for Hillary we will!! After all, everyone knows that all of us look alike, think alike, can dance, eat fried chicken and have no earthly idea what to do with out votes without the great leadership of Andrew Young, John Lewis, etc. l Jesse Jackson said the jury was still out as to “how Black Obama is”!! Get real people!! It is better to be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt. Listen to the candidates, read up on their positions regarding major issues such as healthcare, homeland security, social security, immigration, etc. Then pick out the candidate that meets YOUR criteria, not Andrew Young’s…..then VOTE!!!

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

The comments by Proud American Citizen are the most relevant comments to why Democrats are finding it hard to win in red states. Their stances on Guns,Gays, Taxes & maintaining a strong national defense obiviously with some rational is what makes them so irrelevant to most Americans when voting in certain demographics. Oh yeah not to mention how they seem to encourage entitlements instead of hard work.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

W. Jones AMEN!!!! Oh what is wrong with fried chicken, not to mention collard greens, LOL!!!!

By Wendell

December 8, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

How shameful & pathetic that this “civil rights icon”, is saying this about a man he so-called march for. It is apparent that this man is uncle tomming for the Clinton machine. To suggest that Obama is to young is absurd. He & others of the civil rights era that think this way, are threaten that thier seat at the importance table is being filled.

With Obama as president, they have to take a back seat, [no pun intended]. Their cries will ring hollow.

So I’m writing to let Mr. Young know me & my entire family is voting for Obama, and maybe he can get this country started back in the right direction.

By Steve South DeKalb

December 8, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

Hey, Andy if Obama is too young to be president does that mean you were too old to be Governor of Georgia when Zell Miller beat you?

By Lane tucker

December 8, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

Obama is a Political lightweight

He is a black Dan Quayle

In fact he has less experience then Quayle did

By Young to Too Old

December 8, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

What does Andy Young want Obama to do? Pray for change and sing “We Shall Overcome?”

By Young is Too Old

December 8, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

What does Andy Young want Obama to do? Pray for change and sing “We Shall Overcome?”

By Generation X

December 8, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

It’s time for a fresh start for the country and a new face in the White House. Obama!!!

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

So Lane, I guess George Bush, failed management of a baseball team & business man prepared him quite well for running your my life and gave him all the experience he needs. That’s an excellent criteria be able to meet to be leader of the free world.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

So Lane, I guess George Bush, failed management of a baseball team & business man prepared him quite well for running your’s and my life and gave him all the experience he needs. That’s an excellent criteria be able to meet to be leader of the free world.

By Marc

December 8, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

PEOPLE WAKE UP! ANDREW YOUNG IS 100% RIGHT!!!!! I’M BLACK SO DON’T GET ME WRONG, HILLARY IS THE BEST CANIDATE RIGHT NOW! DON’T BE STUCK ON OBAMA IS BLACK. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE A BLACK PRESIDENT ONE DAY,BUT REMEMBER PEOPLE WE HAD SOME OF OUR BEST TIMES WITH THE CLINTONS IN THE WHITE HOUSE! ANDY IS NOT TO OLD TO REMEMBER THAT! THE SOUL TRAIN LINE COMMENT BY ANDY WAS SYMBOLIC FOR SAYING THAT THEY ARE REAL PEOPLE AND WILL RUN THE COUNTRY LIKE REAL PEOPLE, NOT LIKE THE ROBOTIC APROACH THAT BUSH HAS CHOSEN WITH NO COMPASSION OR REALIZATION THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT WITH THERE FAMILIES (LIKE HE IS)FOR A WAR THAT IS GAINING NO GROUND. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT DOES MATTER WHAT RACES YOU GREW UP AROUND. COLLEGE IS LIKE A CULTURE SHOCK TO A LOT OF RACES, BECAUSE THEY ARE USE TO BEING WITH JUST ONE SET OF PEOPLE. YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH ALL RACES, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS MOST RACES DO AND THINK DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER RACES, BECAUSE THERE ENVIORMENT HAS SHAPED THEM INTO WHO THEY ARE AND HOW THEY THINK. IT TAKES SOMEONE WHO CAN RELATE TO ALL TO CHANGE MINDS OF SOME THAT ARE TO INGNORANT TO KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG OR THAT JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND A CHANGE IS NEEDED! THAT WAS CLEAR WITH THE RE ELECTION OF MR. BUSH, WE GOT DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO A HOLE, SO FAR THAT THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR HIM REGRET IT NOW!!!!

By Graham

December 8, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Andy Young probably kept us from having a Democratic governor by supporting “the big guy” whereas Cathy Cox could have been really good.

I sure hope Andy Young doesn’t give us a Republican president but increasing support for Hillary who can’t win the general election instead of Barak who can win.

By To the Confused Blk Woman

December 8, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Wendy,

You are typical of many Sisthas who think gender issues are more important than African-American issues. Hillary is no Bill, she can’t even take a stance on any important issues. What ever is popular is what she believes. Are you the same?

By Dolemite

December 8, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

This whole blog is sad. When Whites vote for Whites one of their criteria is that the candidate is not Black. But many Blacks want to know the age, background, upbringing, education, etc on our Black candidates. Isn’t living the Black experience and marrying a Black woman enough to know that Obama could have your best interest at stake?

By Dave

December 8, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

As a white guy in my 30s, I think Obama and others of my generation are more clued-in to the realities of life. We grew up in a different era, so I see Obama’s age as a benefit because I think he “gets it” and would represent all people witout bias. (I grew up in the Atlanta area and all I can remember is always having friends of different races - not the South of the generations before me.) In other words, Andy Young and many of his time will forever be racist against whites (we know he’s anti-Jew and anti-Korean and anti-“smart-a* white boys”) so I don’t trust him or his opinions.

As for the election, I know I’m voting Democratic, and I’ve got to tell you that I’m more inclined to vote for a candidate that has made their own way in life (Obama) than one riding the coat-tails of their spouse (Hillary). I guess it’s ironic that an anti-white person like Young - who I remember running an anti-white campaign for mayor of Atlanta against Sidney Marcus in the early 80s - is supporting Hillary, but I guess he’s just as crazy as he is racist.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Graham, excellent point so we see what a political endorsement from Andy young mean….ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Preciate your comment dolemite, more of the same for us as a people.More of the typical self hate I think that put upon one another.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Dave, thank’s for your candor, I can see you are one of the many that look at Obama not so much as a black candidate, but more as a candidate that represents a freshness we need. I will tell you that if there was a young white version of Obama I would be just as enthusatic about their candidacy.

By Roja

December 8, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

I don’t know what Andy has been smoking but Barack Obama has MORE experience in Government than Hillary Clinton. Obama served in the Illinois State Senate for 8 years and has served as a US Senator for the past 3 years. Clinton has served in the US Senate for 7 years. Last time I checked, 11 years experience in elective office is more than 7 years. If Mr. Young is counting Clinton’s experience as a Governor’s wife or as a First Lady, then Nancy Reagan and Rosalyn Carter have as much experience in those areas as she does. Would he support them if they were running?

By fromSelma

December 8, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

I am fairly certainly Dr. King would be terribly saddened by the foolish comments made by Andy Young, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc. and others that participated in the movement.

However, it would not be the first time, as none had the courage to continue the movement after he was assasinated.

Mr. Obama is a viable candidate with a fresh perspective — we need his optimistic vision! Where is the unity among black folks?

Can any of these sad pathetic souls remember Dr. King? Given what is known, we can speculate that Dr. King would have most certainly supported Mr. Obama. As for Oprah, the statement here is that she believes Mr. Obama can make a difference, and that he is viable. So much so, that she is risking her immense pouplarity because Mr. Obama is a risk worth taking…

By Dave

December 8, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

Absolutely, I think Obama would do an excellent job of representing me and my generation. I think he’ll be the Kennedy of our generation, and that excites me.

By Roja

December 8, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Obama is black? I thought his mom was white and his dad was black. I consider him white.

By Roja

December 8, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Obama is black? I thought his mom was white and his dad was black. I consider him white.

By LJ

December 8, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

All of you people dissing Andy are RACISTS. The only reason you are for Obama is He is black. That is the reason Oprah is backing Him. How come she never backed any one untill a Black came along? Wake up, Obama is to young and inexperienced. We had a lot better times when Clinton was President. He’s going to be there to help Hillery out.

By Barb

December 8, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

Joyce I’m blown away that you can say Andy Young speaks from wisdom of age. Maynard Jackson died when his time came he was over weight and more than likely not follow a dietary and exercise plan his doctor suggested (as do many over weight people) Bill Campbell chose to enrich himself at the expense of the citizens who elected him, that was his chose age had nothing to do with it. If you’re a thief or liar as a young man chances are you’ll remain on as an n old man. I’m also amazed at the mention of Bill Clinton’s name I did not know he was running! Also what doses being black have to do with anything? In Bill’s case it seems that that title was thrown on as his bad behavior was exposed (smoking marijuana but not inhaling, extra marital affairs, forcing himself on one woman and denying the other until his semen was found on her dress!) oh yeah his best bud was Jordan whom helped to clean up Hubble and Lewinsky mess. The comment Andy made about Bill knowing more Black women than Barack, what dose that mean? Once again are we making disparaging remarks about Black women, or is this okay because like rappers Andy is black and gets a pass? On the subject of Oprah everyone seems to have forgotten that she supported and paid for the education of black students early in her career. Her support of Morehouse and Spellman to the tune of millions. Her continual support and heart felt giving to thousands regardless of color make her a creditable spokesperson. She did not support Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton for President and they’re Black! She jumped into to this after witnessing his work in the field, when no one was looking no reporters or cameras. She feels Barack can make a difference for this country. That is a reason to support a candidate not political favors or party affiliation. Also once again Bill is not running tell me why we should elect Hillary, what is her experience, how well can she work with those she does not agree with (Republicans)? Is she approachable we need people in office that can sit down and talk negotiate the time for welding the ax is over we have to find away to live in this world together in some relative harmony. As the Middle East has shown fighting can last over a thousand years and nothing gets done. Wisdom can come from the mouth of babes. It seems Andy and the rest of MLK’s confidants forgot the “I have a dream” speech. Where we are judged by content of character not color of skin. Obama is the dream!!!

Oh yeah how old was Bill Clinton when he ran for President?? (46)

By Dolemite

December 8, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Alex.

Talking about experience - the only experience that Hillary has over Obama is that she slept in the White House for 8yrs and talked about clothes, jewelery and china (not the country) with other wives of Heads of State. If she saw a poll that indicated killing jews was popular, she’d be all for it.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Dave, that is a great way of looking at it and you give me so much hope more hope than I have ever had politically in the potential of a brighter future for our generation. I think that is what the older generation fears is losing their group and control of everybody else. I respectfully say that it is time to take a back seat, not so much as go somewhere and die, but it is time to loosen the reigns of power. I mean look at the government as a whole.

By J Smith

December 8, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

I agree with Andy Young. Obama is not ready to be President yet. This country is not ready to make him President yet. He is just splitting to Democratic vote.

Hillary Clinton has a better chance of becoming President because of the length of time that she has been around politics. And her husband being President is a great plus.

All Obama supporters need to put their support behind Hillary Clinton. Hillary can beat the GOP candidates to become President in 08.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

LJ, puhhhleasssse, I am black and I am backing Obama because of the freshness he brings to the table. I mean this has been our government for the last decade….BUSH, CLINTON,BUSH…and Clinton????, I mean no way time to move one to something different. As for Oprah, I mean, maybe she is backing Obama cause she personally she knows him which she has said, and also think about the Clinton years and all the baggage that she will bring with all the problems we have now, we don’t need any distractions again. So it isn’t black thing, I mean Oprah’s audience is primarily white America, and which would be more feasiblle for her to support, does it occur to you that she putting all her capital behind him cause it is deeper than color with him. Oh yeah, his mother was white not that makes a difference.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Dolemite, not to mention Hillary has the experience of assisiting with helping her husband lose the congress during his presidency overstepping her bounds. This is what we will have to look forward to in a billary adminstration. Yes I meant….BILLARY!!!!!!

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Hi J.Smith, I have to say that you probaly can put the weakest republican candidate against hillary and they would beat her. I mean without getting into the personality defects Gore had he should have been a shoe and even Mr.$800 Haircut John Kerry but they both still lost, even after a populary Democratic President. Hmmmmm, think about it a little.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

LJ, puhhhleasssse, I am black and I am backing Obama because of the freshness he brings to the table. I mean this has been our government for the last decade….BUSH, CLINTON,BUSH…and Clinton????, I mean no way time to move on to something different. As for Oprah, I mean, maybe she is backing Obama cause she personally she knows him which she has said, and also think about the Clinton years and all the baggage that she will bring with all the problems we have now, we don’t need any distractions again. So it isn’t black thing, I mean Oprah’s audience is primarily white America, and which would be more feasiblle for her to support, does it occur to you that she putting all her capital behind him cause it is deeper than color with him. Oh yeah, his mother was white not that makes a difference.

By andres

December 8, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

I see there is a great deal of intropection, if not self-hate, among the black community.

Let Barack Obama run as am American. Let America work!

By Bill

December 8, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

I am amazed by all the talk of whether or not Barak is “black” enough. There was aparrently an extensive discussion at Spellman recently about whether to vote for Barak because he is black or Hillary because she is a woman. Please. Why not look at the issues and think about that a little. Whose stance on the issues is most closely aligned with your interests. Probably John Edwards. Edwards is passionate about the issues, but he has little interest in or patience for the political process. For this reason, he would not be effective. Barak is attacking Hillary from the right on healthcare, and this will make it difficult for him to make adjustments later on. In reality, their experience is pretty comparable - one senate term. There are those who think (even if they don’t say it) that you get two for one with Hillary. Obama’s wife is a pretty formidable person as well.

Is Barak ready? Whas Jack Kennedy ready? An earlier commenter made the comparison to Carter (who I also admire). However, Barak’s style is very different than Carter’s and he would be more effective.

Barak or Hillary? I wish I knew. One argument for Hillary was that she is more electable, but I suspect the opposite might be true.

By JD

December 8, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

It’s called early Alzheimers. Too bad.

By Wendy

December 8, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

GUY- Gender issues are more important TO ME than race issues. I have had a much harder time because I am female than because of my race. And most of the problems I have had which were due to race were from my “own people.” I am not choosing a candidate based on gender or race, I am choosing based on what they can do for me. If you have a problem with that…well, you know the rest.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Andres it is totally self hate, I must agree

By J Smith

December 8, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Alex Phillips. Do you really think that if Obama wins the Democratic primary, he will be voted as President in the general election. I don’t think so.

The Republicans don’t have a good candidate that they all support. This is what will put Hillary Clinton in the White House in 08.

All Democrats should unite behind Hillary Clinton. She has a very good chance of being President in 08.

The conservatives support Obama because they know that a Hillary Clinton primary win spell a defeat for them in the general election in 08.

By Ed

December 8, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

Here is Bill and Hillary’s Resume

After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. Military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. Military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of U.S. Embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000 Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. Sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible be hunted down and punished.

He had Bin Laden located and refused to act on his capture.

Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC. Who are now dead would be alive today.

By Peter Lindstrom

December 8, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

why did you remove my remark?

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

J.Smith, in all honesty I don’t think Obama could carry a southern state nor do I think Hillary can, merely because of those old mindsets that linger and you know what I mean. I do not think her presumed experience makes her the best candidate. I just think that when the curtain closes and people start voting or pin pushed people will vote there realities and beliefs. I mean look right up the highway in tennessee with harold ford so close, but in those obscure rural parts of the state certain could not see themselves voting for someone that does not look like him. So a vote for Hillary is just saying that a person knows and believes that a black candidate has a snowballs chance in you know where of winning. I actually don’t think Hillary can beat the weakest, suckiest candidate and trust me when I say all of them suck, but she gives them so much to go against.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Ed, c’mon, after the after the 1998 bombing of U.S. Embassies in Africa, he sent missles at a training camp, and Republicans we trying to kick him out of office over sex or lying about it, which was garbage, better judgement could’ve have been used but it still comes down to sex. He never had any support from the republican war mongers for anything especially since he refuse the the neocons request for was in Iraq and we how successful that was and is.

Here is Bush’s resume:

Failed war in Iraq

US image destroyed around the world

No weapons of mass destruction found until this day

Torture being condoned

Conservative Supreme court

Mortgage crisis

Most divided country ever

and oh the Grinch as Vice President

By AMERICAN CITIZEN

December 8, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

OBAMA IS TOO YOUNG???? ANDY YOUNG IS AN OLD FART… SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN UNCLE TOM; YOUR DAYS ARE GONE…ITS OUR TIME..

FREE DR. YORK !!!!!!!!! ELECT OBAMA!!!

WWW.HESINNOCENT.COM

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

One other thing Ed all the Clinton years were spent investigating and not legislating. So how could he just act unilaterly, oh yeah that’s how we do things now. Glad he was a little smarter in some areas.

By Joseph P

December 8, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Wouldnt it be just as racist to vote for someone for the color of there skin as it would be not to?

By MissV

December 8, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Women, please name a black female candidate who Hillary has supported! It’s always US helping THEM and US getting a crumb…never a slice nor a loaf.

By Bernard

December 8, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

In 2016, or 2012, David Petraeus is going to be elected President as a Republican, and the Democrats know it.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Joseph P. I guess it can be construed as that, if you really psychologically want to go that deep into it. I think a vote against Hillary is more not against her as it is people just feeling that we have been there done that already.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

MissV, excellent commentary by you and I would like to add that they aren’t giving us anything that most of us bust our butts eveyday to get and maintain. So you go MissV

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, not that it matters to me once love interests causes I feel it lowers the dialoque, but isn’t Andy Young married to a white woman, and he is questioning how black one is. Can someone please update me on this.

By Mickey

December 8, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

I want to know what Andy thinks about his good friend Harry Belafonte endorsing John Edwards.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

Mickey-

Whoa!!! Bellafonte endorses Edwards, that is news to me. Very Interesting

By Terry

December 8, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

I might vote for Obama in 20 years but no way am I throwing my vote away on someone who CANNOT be elected. Maybe if the gop tries to steal another one, making 3 in a row, at least Hillary will have the guts to stick it out instead of quitting like Kerry did.

By Hillary and Bill in 08

December 8, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

Obama is too young and inexperienced -it’s too soon for him. 2016 is when he should’ve run. It is Hillary’s turn now and it’s gonna take all of the talent and skill that both SHE and BILL can muster to clean up the God-awful mess the republicans has put us in, both nationally and worldwide. Go Hillary!!!

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

Terry-

This may comes as a news to you, but we live in a very red state with republicrats, so a vote for any democrat down here could be be deemed as thrown away.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

It is Hillary’s turn???? So is the next election Jeb’s turn since he decided not run behind his failed brother. I venture to day he probaly will run

By Terry

December 8, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

No I am fully aware of that Alex, but I will vote for any Democrat-no matter how bad- rather than vote for the part of Reagan/Bush/Nixon/Grant/ etc… I will not vote for evil.

By Alex Phillips

December 8, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

I think that is reasonable Terry, and I also feel that Obama cannot be elected not so much on experience levels, but because of the collective psychology of some people. No need to get into cause like I have said in previous postings it degraded this discourse.

By Terry

December 8, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

My point exactly Alex. We all understand I would think. I voted for Jesse Jackson twice and saw that vote thrown away but then that was during the evil times. We need someone with the guts to stand up to everything the Dark side can throw at them, thats Hillary.

By Will

December 8, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Either Hillary or Obama will insure a Republican win. You are dreaming if you think the people of this country will elect Hillary. Even Dems who have to run next year are afraid she will ruin their chances of re-election. Pick someone who at least has a shot.

By Terry

December 8, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

By the way Ed, if president Bush had not let Bin Ladens family leave the US on 9-12-01 he probably would have been captured long ago. get your head out of whatever orifice it is in.

By Obama 08

December 8, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

Other than John McCain(who has no chance in hell of getting the GOP nod) what other viable GOP candidate has more experience than Obama? Senator Obama has served in both the Illinois state senate and the US Senate. That gives him a broader resume than Rudy, Romney, Huckabee or FREDNECK. The other GOP candidates are not viable and have no chance at being on the ticket in 2008, so their resumes don’t count as far as this debate goes. The debate among Democrats of Obama’s experience is legitimate, but lets remember that the GOP doesn’t have a candidate that can
play the experience card against Obama. The last time I checked running NYC, Massachusetts or Arkansas doesn’t exactly count for foreign policy experience. Obama’s one weakness is a percieved lack of experience and no viable Republican candidate will be able to exploit that. Hillary(I agree with her on most non-foreign policy issues)has numerous problems. She is very polarizing and she would fire up the GOP base in a year where they would otherwise be less apt to turn out in droves. Obama’s numbers against the GOP front runners are far better than Hillary’s at this point. www.zogby.com Furthermore, a race that should be about change would become a referendeum on Hillary Clinton. Do I think Hillary would lose? That’s hard to say. I think Democrats could nominate Dukakis and have him campaign around the county in a tank and have a decent chance at beating the GOP candidate. With that said, I think Obama would be much tougher than Hillary or John Edwards(he smells like John Kerry) in a general. Considering the lack of foreign policy experience of the major GOP candidates they couldn’t turn this into a referendeum on Obama. Also, unlike Hillary Obama comes across as a likeable and sincere candidate. The GOP would have a hard time making him into the devil. Hillary plays right into the GOP’s wheelhouse and gives them a 50/50 chance of winning in the worst environment for GOP candidates since the watergate era. Obama 08!

By Eduardo Molinillo

December 8, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Bill (Clinton) was merely a dunderhead whose primary (color) interest was getting BJs from interns. Hillary is much more dangerous: she’s fascist pretending to “care,” just like Chavez in Venezuela. I never thought I’d miss Dick Nixon.

By Brenda Davis

December 8, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

I am so tired of people making comments like Obama doesn’t have enough experience or he is too young! However, it has been ok that we have one of the most inarticulate presidents ever!!!

By Disappointed in My People

December 8, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

When I read comments from older African-Americans saying that Barack Obama is too young to run for President, I am truly disappointed. It seems that our elders have forgotten how young Martin Luther King, Jr. was when he was leading the civil rights movement. Yes, The Clintons have been supportive of African-Americans, and I truly admire the hard work of Former President Bill Clinton. But Barack Obama has the ability and (dare I say) experience to be the President of the United States.

It seems to me that the older African-American leaders are not ready for change. I think that so many favors have been made and “you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours” situations have occured so much in the Clinton years that A lot of these leaders are obligated to follow Clinton. Yes, they know “Lift Ev’ry Voice and Sing”, and they are the first to cross their hands and close their eyes and sing “We Shall Overcome” at an MLK celebration. But at the end of the day, THEY ARE NOT BLACK…as much as we have said that Pres. Clinton is the “First Black President” it is definitely not true. And when we finally get a GOOD QUALIFIED AFRICAN-AMERICAN CANDIDATE WITH SENSE, Older (And some Younger) African-Americans feel that “He’s not ready”, or “It’s not his time”. If not now, when?

It is time that We, the post baby boomers, arrive as LEADERS and not FOLLOWERS. I do believe that Barack Obama has a STRONG Chance of being President and our elders must realize that.

By Matlock

December 8, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Obama is a lightweight. He has no executive experience. His appeal is that he is a “clean” black man as Democrat presidential candidate Senator Joe Biden expressed.

For some people apparently, THAT is enough to be qualified for the presidency.

You disagree? What do you know about Obama’s plans to secure the U.S., help grow the economy, or reform social security and medicare? What about his tax policy—and how will that affect economic growth, the unemployment rate, or capital investment?

If your only answer is that he is going to “give” everyone healthcare, a “free” car, home, job, college education, or an iPod, then you’re right in the mainstream of the Democrat party. Congratulations—go back to sleep.

By Matlock

December 8, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

“Disappointed in My People”

Gee, I’m going out on a limb, but I’m guessing that your people doesn’t mean “Americans.”

The next time you are discriminated against, don’t complain. You are a bigot.

By Jerome Johnson

December 8, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

This is the same comment that is made about all black people that are blazzing new trails and Andy was no different when he ran for office.what he is trying to tell us is of no value to how we should think as a people. Our votes will tell who we chose as our leader and not a distant voice of the past

By newkid

December 8, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

I suppose Mr. Young, like others, has a perfect right to his opinion, and has a right to express it whenever and wherever he wishes. I hope the younger generations who, starting with the coming election, are primed to make their voices heard regarding the sort of country (and world) they wish to create for themselves, will exercise extreme caution before taking as ‘gospel’ the opinions of those of us who’ve already had our opportunities to create our futures. Those of Mr. Young’s age had opportunities decades ago to create the US of the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s. To his credit Mr. Young and many others did very creditable ‘jobs’ THEN. Careful you don’t give them - and folks like me -too tall a pedestal to stand on regarding YOUR tomorrows.

Mr Young is confused. Advanced age sometimes does that to us. A ‘young’ Mr. Young realizes that Martin King’s sacrifices, and the sacrifices of many others of that and earlier eras, had little to do with King thinking about HIMSELF. His thoughts, rightfully so, were with those for whom he sacrficed. Those with whom I marched, those of my friends who were jailed, shot, and killed, thought much more about ‘the others’ than about themselves. Maybe, just maybe, Mr. Obama is far more concerned about ‘the others’ than the ‘old’ Mr. Young seems to be. The ‘old’ Mr. Young seems, in the video, to be consumed with how difficult it’ll be for Mr. Obama if the citizens of the US decide that indeed the country does need Mr. Obama - and whatever he’s willing to sacrifice - to lead us out of the current wilderness and put THEIR tomorrows on the proper course. If Mr. Obama elects to make those the ‘old’ Mr. Young imploring you to not allow Mr. Obama to serve you. The ‘old’ Mr. Young would have told the ‘young’ Martin King to ‘just wait another couple of decades, it’ll be better for YOU if you did so’. I, for one, am thrilled that the ‘old’ Mr. Young wasn’t around to advise the ‘young’ Martin King. In this particular instance, the ‘old’ Mr. Young has far less of value to say on this issue than what I suspect will be the considered opinions of many who will inherit tomorrow’s USA. I suspect, and hope, that the inheritors of tomorrow will wish to be led by the spirit of someone who has the vision of the ‘young’ Mr. Young.

Mr. Young, I love you dearly for what what you did for use YESTERDAY. I love you becasue I was very much a part of that YESTERDAY effort. But I say to you TODAY, either ‘bring it’ or go sit down somewhere and be quiet. Tomorrow’s world is not one of who’s blacker or who’s whiter. Let it go good brother, like many of the rest of us have long since done. Who the hell cares if Bill Clinton has dated black women. Of what relevance is that in choosing the next POTUS?

By Worried

December 8, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

It concerns me that there are people out there who want to vote for Obama just because he’s black. As a woman of color, I must say that I am very proud of him in terms of what he has accomplished and what he still seeks to do. However, I can’t cast my vote for someone just because of the color of their skin. It seems to me that some of us are being the anti-MLK. He said people should not be judged based on the color of their skin. Isn’t voting for him JUST because he’s black, doing just the opposite of what King wanted for us. I haven’t decided yet who I will vote for. I think Obama has a lot to offer, but he has weakenesses too, just like the other candidates. I hope that people will vote based on the issues that matter most. Our country’s future is at stake right now.

By Lisa Hampton

December 8, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

Mr.Young’s comments are astonishing to say the least and very sad. It is the old guards of the civil rights movement who have prevent real reform in our public schools in which black children suffer the most. People like Mr. Young have ran our cities in which crime, drugs and poverty have destroyed many neighborhoods all over this country. The truth of the matter is the old guards are afraid of Obama. They know their days are numbered and they are not going to like the reforms that should have been enacted along time ago. I support Obama 100%. I hope Americans who are for real reforms do the same.

By Jason

December 8, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

Regardless of his or her color or gender, Barack Obama is the better choice of the two candidates currently making the most headlines and the celebrity popularity contests. This country is in a very dangerous position at the moment (economics, Foreign affairs and perception, and internally and involved in a “war” that has done nothing truly effective but cost us billions of US Dollars and thousands of our service men’s lives.) The time for a fresh beginning is now and Hillary Clinton is not that candidate. Andrew Jackson’s comments are just proof that he has aged considerably, is out of touch and ability to take an effective stance is irrelevant.

By newkid

December 8, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

To ‘Disappointed with My People’ I say follow your heart. You see I’m one of those old Africans to whom you referred. You - along with several others here - are exactly right. You young cats MUST make your voices heard and your wishes known despite some of the lunacy you’ll hear from some of us who pounded the pavements in the 60’s.

As us old Africans have aged, we’ve sometimes lost perspective. We don’t always realize that the realities of YOUR 21st century (here and in the larger world) are in many instances dramatically different OUR 1960’s when we were demonstrating Vietnam, demanding voting and civil rights, fighting segregation, attempting to get equal access to education and housing, and trying to integrate bowling alleys. Don’t you cats dare allow us old Africans to drag you back into our old fights. Your realities are yours; you cats need to choose your own leaders and define your own battles. We’ll help you cats in whatever way we can to get to the futures you wish to create. And whether he knows it or not, Andy will too.

By Slim from the ville

December 8, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

The Reverend Young makes a very compelling arguement.

“Bill has probably gone with more black women than Barack”.

As a lily white,life long,dyed in the wool right wing conservative—I have just thrown my support behind Hillary.

Slim

By Bill

December 8, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Well, that was a nice example of “damning with faint praise.” I am more impressed with the courage that Obama shows with his campaign, than any admiration for whites pandering with a “Soul Train Line.”

This clip helped this white guy (SAWB) get more comfortable with supporting Obama.

By Bill

December 8, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Well, that was a nice example of “damning with faint praise.” I am more impressed with the courage that Obama shows with his campaign, than any admiration for whites pandering with a “Soul Train Line.”

This clip helped this white guy (SAWB) get more comfortable with supporting Obama.

By Jay Black

December 8, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

MATLOCK

Seems to me that you’ve never heard anything Senator Obama ever had to say about anything. That fact that the only knock against him is his age speaks volumes. It also says that you’re talking out of the crack of your back.

By mike

December 8, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

Andy Young and his generation took the licks so that you arrogant Buppies could drive around in your BMWs and go to classes at Georgia Tech and Georgia. If you had to stare down dogs and fire hoses, you would have wet yourselves. Where are your voices when it comes to speaking out against the violence occurring in black neighborhoods? You’re pathetic.

By Jay Black

December 8, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

I’ve been talking to some of my younger generation, and they SEEM to think that, with Hillary, they’ll get another Bill. That would be the main reason why she would get votes. Not because of what she can do in the White House, or what she’s preaching. Some of the younger generation don’t have any insight at all. They just think Hill=Bill.

By hornet

December 8, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

I want someone to tell me why Oprah’s opinion means so much? You people put way too much stock in what T V personalities have to say. Try thinking for yourself for a change. And Andy Young is towing the party line isn’t he? It’s payback time to Hillary for something. This is the way politics works. Not what’s right, what’s good for the party. What a load a crap.

By Jay Black

December 8, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

MIKE

You know who IS speaking out against violence in black neighborhoods? The guy Andy doesn’t wanna support. Is that hypocrisy? Or is there another word for it?

By beki

December 8, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

Let me get this out and you can take my opinion with a pinch of salt: I am a white babyboomer female.Ok? None of the Democratic candidates are any better than the Republican candidates;and, many are non-electable.Obama and Hillary are easy prey for a Karl Rove smear campaign that will do anything to elect another Republican. Huckabee,anybody? Guess what his is appeal: he is a Christian leader.That’s what Bush said when he ran in 2000; and,guess what happened? If Obama is the Democratic candidate can you imagine what Huckabee campaign will be like?I want to vote for the best candidate based on their experience,their vision of America ( provided they actually have one ); and, what their stance is on various problems afflicting America. I really don’t give a rat’s a** what their gender,race, or faith is.

By RBG

December 8, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

Wake up Black people!! Did you know that Bill Clinton inner circle were all white MEN! He did not have ONE black person that he consideredas a confidant during his 8 years as President. In the words of a high paid Republican radio personality,— “It amazes me that black people will not take the one vote that so many have died over and support a black man for President. They will instead support a WHITE woman and then complain that the WHITE man is keeping them down.” They know us better than we know ourselves. This was a true statement. No one knows if he will be elected or not. In the meantime, Obama will get my ONE vote!

By DavidEm

December 8, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

Obama is in a completely different league than ANY other candidate in this election. He is BRILLIANT and INSPIRING—-something we haven’t seen since the death of Bobby Kennedy. Does Mr. Young really think we have the leisure to wait until 2016 for such non-divisive LEADERSHIP?

By newkid

December 8, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

Mike, I can tell you that I felt the firehouses, felt the butt of batons and soles of black boots, and saw one of my very closest friends buried because he too engaged in OUR righteous battles. Different period, different battles my man. Of course this current generation needs to be ever vigilant against the old ills; nothing I hear here suggests to me they’re looking to duck these responsibilities. But Mr. Young’s nonsense has rightfully p** them - and me - off. While he has every right to speak his piece, Mr. Young doesn’t own the history of the African in United States. Many of us ACTIVE participants are still around, and we’ve got a perspective as well. And this is one old ACTIVE participant who likes very much the voices of outrage he has heard here this afternoon.

By jcfromindy

December 8, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

For all of you so called old farts, who think this generation doesn’t get it! Spare me with your arrogant ways. If you guys would know when to sit down and shut up, maybe leaders can emerge with viable solutions and plans to move forward. Our reality is a lot different than Andy Young’s and others reality. Every generation has issues that the must fight for, the difference that the civil rights movement generations needs to face is that we are not going to walk down peachtree street in some dame overalls singing we shall overcome PERIOD. That does not mean we’ve forgotten our history, that doesn’t mean that we don’t appreciate what the civil rights movement has done.

At some point, I respected the leaders of the civil rights movement, now, it’s cerainly time for them to pass the baton. Not to those they choose, but to those who have a mind to confront issues in a vvery different way.

It appears to be hypocritical that you won’t support a black man running for the highest position in this country. Am I voting for Obama because he is a black men? CERTAINLY I am. I owe it to him to at least support him and his efforts, not to mention he is qualfied. How you gonna march for injustice for the Jena 6, complain about so-called black issues and not support a black man. Things that make me wonder………………………………………………………….

By Barb

December 8, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this

Matlock I don’t believe “disappointed in my people” was making a disparaging comment. I do believe this person is addressing the African Americans who are afraid to support Barack BECAUSE he is Black. Those leaders and older folks who fought the civil rights struggle and now can not recognize the dream. “Barack Obama” someone who comes along that should be judged by his content of character and not color of his skin. I have not heard any other Leaders from the Republican nor main street America say he is unelectable due to his skin color. We are too hung up in this country with race and political correctness that every statement made that has a comment about another ethnic group is called racist or bigoted. When sometimes to express the thought you must refer to someone’s ethnic background. If people really want the best candidate. Let pose the questions you referred to in your previous statement to all candidates. What are you plans to grow the economy, reform social security, provide a quality relevant education to our children and fund national health care? How do you plan to scale down the war and begin bringing our troops home without sinking Iraq. We created that mess we can’t just walk away.

By Barb

December 8, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this

Matlock I don’t believe “disappointed in my people” was making a disparaging comment. I do believe this person is addressing the African Americans who are afraid to support Barack BECAUSE he is Black. Those leaders and older folks who fought the civil rights struggle and now can not recognize the dream. “Barack Obama” someone who comes along that should be judged by his content of character and not color of his skin. I have not heard any other Leaders from the Republican nor main street America say he is unelectable due to his skin color. We are too hung up in this country with race and political correctness that every statement made that has a comment about another ethnic group is called racist or bigoted. When sometimes to express the thought you must refer to someone’s ethnic background. If people really want the best candidate. Let pose the questions you referred to in your previous statement to all candidates. What are you plans to grow the economy, reform social security, provide a quality relevant education to our children and fund national health care? How do you plan to scale down the war and begin bringing our troops home without sinking Iraq. We created that mess we can’t just walk away.

By JB

December 8, 2007 7:54 PM | Link to this

Silly me, I thought Andy Young was dead already…

JB

By Taffy

December 8, 2007 7:57 PM | Link to this

Andy Young is not see the whole picture just like other people(specifically African- Americans)who are backing Senator Clinton. How hard is it to see that Bill and Hillary are two very different people. Yes, Bill was good for America and people all over the world love him but Hillary is not Bill. Hillary is not personable at all. Too many people came up dead when she was in the White House