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Don’t let the door hitcha, Rudy
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Let’s hope Republican presidential front-runner Rudy Giuliani really enjoyed a few pats on the back over the weekend.
Because the former mayor of New York didn’t get much more from Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) during a visit to Cobb County Sunday.
Isakson hosted Giuliani, who in 2004 came to Georgia to help Isakson win his Senate seat. And after exchanging back pats, Isakson said of his guest, “He’d be a great president of the United States.”
So Isakson was endorsing his Yankee pal?
“We’ve got a lot of great candidates,” Isakson said when asked, “and I’m for the Republican candidate.”
Sorry, Rudy. But, hey, it was nice seein’ ya’.



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Comments
By Chris F.
December 3, 2007 7:27 PM | Link to this
Amazing. On 9/10/01, most Republicans wouldn’t cross the street to shake Rudy’s hand. But somehow, being attacked in your city makes you a bona fide foreign policy/terrorism expert. Maybe the mayor of Arlington, VA, or Shanksville, PA should run for president, too. Seems like they know as much as Rudy about on the subjects. Otherwise, his policy positions make him qualified to be a great running mate—for Hillary Clinton.
Luckily, it sounds like Ron Paul’s supporters gave him a warm, friendly ‘welcome’ to Marietta. ;^)
Peace be with you.
By Ru Paul
December 3, 2007 7:35 PM | Link to this
I will not win!!!
By Marta
December 3, 2007 7:36 PM | Link to this
Rudy the weasel
By Rudy08Man
December 3, 2007 10:05 PM | Link to this
GO RUDY GO RUDY GO RUDY
Rudy will kill the terrorists. He will bomb Iran. And Syria. And Pakistan. Rudy will torture enemy combatants in secret prisons. Rudy will make the world fear America. Rudy will protect our freedoms. He understands what freedom is all about.
“We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don’t see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.”
9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11
GO RUDY GO RUDY GO RUDY
By Cliff
December 3, 2007 10:44 PM | Link to this
“Rudy will make the world fear America”
Uh… I think that says it all.
By Cliff
December 3, 2007 10:45 PM | Link to this
“Rudy will make the world fear America”
Uh… I think that says it all.
By Churchill
December 3, 2007 10:56 PM | Link to this
Wonder what it is about Rudy that is bringing the libs out of the woodwork? Or they could be disgruntled Ru Paul supporters.
By StarsAndBars
December 3, 2007 10:57 PM | Link to this
Ron Paul is the only republican candidate that can beat hillary. No one else will get votes back from last november.
By Churchill
December 3, 2007 11:41 PM | Link to this
Ru Paul will not beat anybody, because he is a protectionist boob. Ru Paul will not win the nomination.
By js57
December 4, 2007 2:05 AM | Link to this
Churchill, google “Freedom to fascism” google “The money masters”
By Brenda
December 4, 2007 5:07 AM | Link to this
There are people who have an Elitist attitude and Neo-Conservative state of mind, who are afraid of Ron Paul. They wouldn’t know a good thing if it hit them in the face. Ron Paul’s voting record is public information. Look it up and see it with your own eyes. He is consistent and he is the one candidate who will not try to control your life. He is the only candidate who follows the U.S Constitution to a T.
By Bitter EX democrackkk
December 4, 2007 6:11 AM | Link to this
Right you are, Brenda!!!
and churchill YOU are the BooB around here…its evident that you shun enlightenment about what has happened to our once great country. If we dont keep our sovereignty, and dismantle the PRIVATE ‘Federal Reserve’ , then America is doomed to fall to China, sum ting wong.
www.RonPaul2008.com
www.RonPaulBlimp.com
www.TeaParty07.com
On December 16th, the Ron Paul Blimp, having flown up the East Coast will dump TEA into Boston Harbor demonstrating the need for reform in American government!
Support the ONLY Constitutionalist Candidate who will honor and represent us for who we are, not what the world wants us to be.
By Bitter EX democrackkk
December 4, 2007 6:14 AM | Link to this
THANKs to ALL the area Ron Paul supporters who greeted Rudy in Marietta Sunday! Excellent way to wake up the clueless unexpectedly! Rudy aint MY ‘mayor’…
By Keith
December 4, 2007 6:31 AM | Link to this
You all had better hope that Ron Paul DOES WIN THE NOMINATION AND THE PRESIDENCY. He is the only candidate that wants to save your asses from a economic collapse and a police state. Reminder there is a Patriot Act, No Habeas Corpus, No Posse Comintatus a military commissions act and a National ID card. All this courtesy of Bush, the CFR member that follows will be worse. BTW most all these candidates except Ron Paul are CFR members! You can live in a communist society if you wish I just want you to do it in a communist country, try North Korea. WAKE UP VOTE RON PAUL!
By Bob C
December 4, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this
Rudy will protect us. He’s a giant among men. He is strong enough to change his mind on abortion, gun control and immigration. He could beat up King Kong if he wanted to. He had an affair on tax payer money with King Kongs mother proving he is not racist. Rudy is his own favorite person, and he should be yours too.
Rudy could leap over tall buildings if he wanted to and almost did during 9/11 to put the fires out but those nasty Islamo Fascist Terrorists (not to be confused with the “good” kind of Fascists like Rudy!)put Kryptonite in his pockets and caused his comb over to fall out and temporarily give him a lisp.
Rudy played for both the Yankees and the Red Sox in secret disguises and actually helped them both win the World Series several times. Rudy looks better in a dress than Hillary and has better legs.
Rudy has “friends”, “guys that can get things done” ya know wut I mean…fuhgetaboutit hey… Rudy should be President because the media says it’s his turn and we must always obey the media or we’re UnAmerican.
Rudy will continue the excellent policies of the NEO-CONS and find all the bad guys and “water board” them, not “torture”, “water board” them. Rudy will not allow Torture!
Rudy will bring not just one new First lady to the White House, he could have two or even three by the time he’s done, just think of the boost to our economy and the fashion industry that will bring!
Rudy reads the bible everyday (Mike Huckabee told me that so you know it can’t be a lie!) and he knows what Jesus would do. In fact Jesus was “protected” as an illegal immigrant during the time Rudy was mayor, so were his brothers Mateo, and Felipe.
Rudy knows “freedom isn’t free” and even though he never had the privelege to go to war he’ll make sure your kids get that chance!
By Hancock County Dad
December 4, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this
Ron Paul supporters made complete fools out of themselves on Sunday. Ron Paul is a nut, and from the way these folks acted, so are his supporters.
By Jack W
December 4, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that “there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between” Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, detaining protesters, banning books like “America Deceived’ from Amazon, stealing private lands (Kelo decision), warrant-less wiretapping and refusing to investigate 9/11 properly. They are both guilty of treason. Support Dr. Ron Paul and save this great nation. Last link (before Google Books bends to gov’t Will and drops the title): http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0
By Churchill
December 4, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
Ru Paul is a boob.
By Anonymous
December 4, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
Churchill is obsessed with complaining about Ron Paul on every thread, no matter how irrelevant.
Churchill is clearly frightened of Ron Paul, which leads me to think that Paul must have some worthwhile things to say. Think I’ll check out his site.
By Churchill
December 4, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
I will post whatever I want about Ru Paul. His protectionist positions are nearly as dangerous as the libs flawed policies. I am trying to dispel the myth that Ru is conservative. He is not. He is a libertarian. Big difference. Ru Paul is a big boy, he can handle it. Right?
By Darren D.
December 4, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
Churchill says,
” am trying to dispel the myth that Ru is conservative. He is not. He is a libertarian. Big difference.”
Please educate us on the difference.
Ron Paul is:
He believes in a strong millitary protecting our borders. He understands the economy and knows what needs to be done to help the middle class.
Sounds pretty conservative to me.
By Churchill
December 4, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
Darren D., you are, obviously a product of the public education system. They did not teach you gov’t, history, or political philosophy. Not your fault. But before you make a horses arse of yourself, read the writings of Kirk, Buckley, Burke, Limbaugh, or my namesake. Once you have finished your reading I will gladly tell you why Ru is no conservative. By the way, look up protectionism while your at it.
By smb12321
December 4, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this
I’d like - JUST ONE TIME - for those who criticize Paul to deal with his ideas, e.g. RP does not want to tell you what to smoke, eat, wear, say, watch or who to mingle with. (Your response) “I disagree because __’
RP does not want to debase the currency or run the economy. “I disagree because _’
RP wants a republic, not an empire. “I disagree because _”
Waiting but not holding my breath
By Ru Who?
December 4, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
Ru Paul is a isolationist in the same vein as Pat Buchanan. Isolationism is fine if you’re Switzerland, but weakness is provocative.
If the U.S. excludes itself from shaping world events in a way that is favorable to our interests, we will reap the rewards of our indifference.
If Ru is such a blockbuster phenomenon, then why does he barely measure in the polls? He’s not totally without merit, but he is extreme on some important issues.
That makes him a fringe candidate. Ru Paul isn’t a total boob, but those who think he has a shot at the presidency probably are.
I encourage the Ru Paul true believers to contribute their total net worth to his campaign. Set up your own 501 (c)(3) and have at it.
For those following the reading list, look for Winston rather than Ward Churchill. Good grief.
By Churchill
December 4, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
I disagree because Ru is a libertarian. Although I am for smaller government, I do see the need for society to have laws that do regulate some “moral behavior” for the good of the republic. This devil may care, do what you want attitude is great in theory, but it is not applicable. As for Ru’s stance on the war. Geesh, where do I start. He wants the US to disengage from the rest of the world. Sounds good, but what would be the long term consequences? Ru’ s stammering and stuttering in the debates is great comedy, but he is not a serious candidate for serious conservatives.
By Bitter EX democrackkk
December 4, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
‘churchill’ you need to gain some enlightenment about Dr. Ron Paul…
yes he is libertarian, but as President he will only be able to accomplish certain things with the much need libertarian principles applied. it wont ‘be’ an instant responsible society, but we can turn the ship around slowly.
By Rob M
December 4, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this
Uninformed morons believing everything they hear. Isn’t it great that people who don’t appreciate their freedom will throw their votes away to the media “Front Runners” Hey Churchhill maybe you should read a book or something, your ignorance shows through. Rudy “Comb Over” “9/11” Guiliani is the same as the fraud running the country now. Hillary will be elected because gullible fools like Churchhill keep believing the mainstream Republican candidates. I think Republican’s have forgotten what a real conservative is because the only one running they call a liberal.
By Warren
December 4, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this
After voting for numerous presidential arses in my lifetime I for one am more than happy to cast my vote this time for the boob
By Rob M
December 4, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this
Churchhill why don’t you do a little reading. Such as “The Creature from Jekyll Island”. You might learn who is really running your government. Maybe your controlled ideas and do what your told attitude works in your house, but you are either naive or just stupid to think that any of your mainstream media darlings really hold the same ideals as you do. They will say anything to get elected. I remember Bush running on a platform of noninterventionism. I guess he was an isolationist too. If we don’t secure our borders and improve our economy we will be saluting the North American Union flag which is the goal of all the globalist candidates. Keep thinking everything you hear on cable news is true. Our country is doomed by these morons. Churchill was an idiot so please don’t think his readings enlightened you on anything.
By Churchill
December 4, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this
Ru Paul is a boob, not a liberal.
By Ian
December 4, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
It’s simple really, if Dr. Ron Paul does not get the nomination, the democrats win. So all the republicans that hate Ron Paul are shooting themselves in the foot by not supporting him.
By Rob M
December 4, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this
And you are a liberal who gets no boob:) Yeah silly incitement of people who actually care. Get back on the couch with your 6 pack and watch some reality TV or just watch the debate over again. Either way if you can support any of these other frauds you are more of a Socialist than a Conservative anyway.
By Churchill
December 4, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this
I just heard, and most people are starting to believe that Dr. Ru Paul lost his medical license for dealing drugs to his wacked-out minions. That explains it.
By Tboo
December 4, 2007 8:06 PM | Link to this
Ron Paul is a classical liberal, or in modern terminology, a libertarian and not a conservative. In 1988 he ran for President on the Libertarian Party ticket.
By Mike
December 4, 2007 8:22 PM | Link to this
Lotta Ron Paul name calling on here by a couple of neo-con sheep that lost the ability to think for themselves. ANY and i mean ANY person that cannot see that Ron Paul is the best candidate for President is at best ill informed and at worst just a blatant liar.
By Churchill
December 4, 2007 8:33 PM | Link to this
Tboo, do not attempt to use logic and reason with the Ru Paul people. They will rue the day they voted for Ru Paul.
By Rob M
December 4, 2007 8:34 PM | Link to this
I’ve heard the Army is recruiting. What better way to support your candidate and country. Pretty funny you suggest Rush Limbaugh’s writings then talk about drug induced opinions of Paul supporters. Just another moron who knows nothing of freedom. Yeah it’s just crazy to secure the borders. Let’s borrow more money from China to secure oil that they would sell to us either way. Unfortunately Paul probably won’t win if only for the simple fact that only about 5 percent of the electorate is intelligent enough to understand the issues. I wish it was as easy to convince the dumb and uninformed about the benefits of personal responsibility and freedom. If the commentators on Fox News or CNN represent your views and seem fair and balanced you have no original ideas of your own and it’s very likely you are a moron.
By Churchill
December 4, 2007 9:49 PM | Link to this
Rob M, you should get to know Will Jones. He pops up here now and again. You guys could join the same support group. Anyway, Ru Paul is still a boob.
By Ron
December 4, 2007 10:19 PM | Link to this
Ahhh.. you just know you are dealing with the “party of ideas” when the most intellectual critique they make is to call Obama “Osama” and Ron Paul “Ru Paul.” Such incisive wit is to be expected from the neocons who gave us the worst president in history.
Jimmy Breslin famously said of Guiliani that he is “a small man in search of a balcony.” No wonder he is the new neocon favorite.
By Churchill
December 4, 2007 10:46 PM | Link to this
The neocons gave us Jimmy Carter? Really?
By Ron
December 4, 2007 10:57 PM | Link to this
One of Carter’s biggest failures was the stagflation the economy suffered in the 1970s. Well, the folks in Washington sure cured that in this administration. How? Well, they fiddled with the price indices to hide the actual rate of inflation. Less measured inflation means more measured growth. Using the CPI techniques in place in Carter’s administration, we currently have 10% inflation and falling real output.
See http://www.shadowstats.com/cgi-bin/sgs/data
By Wackolibhack
December 4, 2007 10:59 PM | Link to this
It is Bush’s fault that Ru Paul is a boob. I hate Bush.
By Rob M
December 4, 2007 11:29 PM | Link to this
For Churchhill sitting around in his best Who Farted tee shirt and for the crazies who think a military presence all over the world is good. Just imagine the military power we could acquire if we removed our troops from the rest of the world. And spent that money on technology. Our weapons are already way ahead of our enemies but that would put us light years ahead. I don’t understand how our presence in the region provides anything but a stick in the hornets nest. In reality our military could have cruise missiles turn any of those countries into a sheet of glass in 30 minutes or less or your Camel burger is free. Our presence in the region didn’t stop Iraq from invading Kuwait or staying there for a while before we built up a force. Why not keep our forces at home? They can be deployed anywhere in the world in days. How much more messed up can this country get before people start thinking rationally about this country’s future? Our national infrastructure is way over due for upgrades yet we are building roads and houses for Iraqi’s who are giving oil contracts to Chinese companies. Now that’s gratitude for you. Great policy maybe instead of cashing in the savings for Ron Paul I will just send it build something in Iraq.
By Churchill
December 4, 2007 11:35 PM | Link to this
Rob is Will Jones. I knew it.
By Just Me
December 5, 2007 12:00 AM | Link to this
After I saw all the blue Ron Paul signs and all the passionate Ron Paul supporters at the Square, my curiosity about him was piqued.
I went home and typed “Ron Paul” into Google and a zillion articles popped up. After doing some research, my vote will go to Ron Paul.
Thanks, Marietta Paul supporters!
By TerdFerguson
December 5, 2007 12:05 AM | Link to this
“Ru Paul is a isolationist in the same vein as Pat Buchanan. Isolationism is fine if you’re Switzerland, but weakness is provocative.”
Paul is not an isolationist. He’s a non-interventionist and a realist on our current situation. Sustaining a world empire with a presence in over 100 countries is needless and absurd. Particularly when you consider that we are broke and amassing a bigger and bigger debt at an alarming rate. Is the devaluing of our currency and the bankruptcy of our country worth it to maintain this overseas empire? It’s a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. No one is going to give a crap about any of this overseas stuff when our economy goes in the toilet. We need to take care of ourselves first and foremost.
Not to mention the fact that meddling in all these other countries affairs has resulted in negative blowback time after time. We’re spending a trillion dollars a year on our overseas empire. Don’t you think we could put that money to better use at home?
“If the U.S. excludes itself from shaping world events in a way that is favorable to our interests, we will reap the rewards of our indifference.”
Yes we will reap the rewards….a stronger dollar, less debt, a stronger economy, secured borders, better security at home, more money to spend on the american people, clean up our image abroad, less hatred of america around the world (including the radical ismlamics). Yep, that sure would be terrible if all that happened.
By Funk
December 5, 2007 12:10 AM | Link to this
Does this Churchill guy actually pose any real arguments?
By Churchill
December 5, 2007 12:45 AM | Link to this
Yes funk, I do . Read up a little, Johnny come lately. Ru is an isolationist, a protectionist. These are unacceptable for me. Sure, I could drone on and on to try to convince a bunch of libs and Ru Paul hacks. But why bother.
A: Most of these types have a limited view of history and what history they do understand, they understand only through the prism of Bush is bad, the US is the main force of evil in this world, blah, blah blah.
B: I find much more entertaining to tease the small minded. They get it. That is obvious.
C: Ru Paul really has no chance of winning. Where is he in the polls. Yes I know the media will not give him a fair shake. That is true for all running on the Republican side. Look at the polling data kids, Ru barely registers. A small vocal minority of supporters, a movement does not make. Peace.
D: Ru Paul is a boob.
By Paulin08
December 5, 2007 1:00 AM | Link to this
I am going to take this phrase of yours Churchill and put it on its ear. Tomorrow, I am going to order some “Ron Paul is Boobylicious” signs. Take that, you neocon.
By freedomjoyadventure
December 5, 2007 1:29 AM | Link to this
“By Churchill
December 4, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this
I just heard, and most people are starting to believe that Dr. Ru Paul lost his medical license for dealing drugs to his wacked-out minions. That explains it.”
That is slanderous b******. Churchill, you have no credibility as far as I’m concerned. You are part of the problem.
By Deacon
December 5, 2007 3:14 AM | Link to this
Top 10 reasons why Churchill is very ill
By Brad
December 5, 2007 4:03 AM | Link to this
“Here’s the bargain: Give me your freedom, and I’ll keep you safe. It has NEVER worked. It makes us LESS free and UN-safe!” — Judge Andrew Napolitano on the so-called Patriot Act
By PapaGener
December 5, 2007 6:06 AM | Link to this
Churchill, I find it HILARIOUS that you say that Ron Paul supporters have a “limited view of history.” I am a Political Science major at the Ohio State University (our program is fairly highly ranked). I have taken classes in international affairs and learned about U.S. involvement around the world, specifically in the last century, post World War II when the U.S. empire effectively started.
Our policies are the outdated policies from World War II and the Cold War. Well, those wars have long since ended, and it’s time to bring troops home. It’s time for Europe to start carrying its weight and to stop depending on OUR army. That’s why withdrawing from NATO is a good idea, like Ron Paul suggests.
Sorry, I don’t want to ramble, so I’ll sum up my point: perhaps it is you who should read up on history. After all, it was REPUBLICAN Dwight Eisenhower who coined the term “military-industrial complex” in a speech towards the end of his presidency. (Perhaps if you listened to his speech you would be shocked to find out how eerily accurate his prognostication would was).
And calling us small-minded? At the very least its the pot-calling the kettle black, if you’re going to make those charges. Instead of considering alternative points of view, you’re just being defensive and calling people names.
As for Ron Paul not being of the Republican tradition, you should research Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater) The man was the Republican nominee for President in 1964, so don’t tell us that libertarian tradition isn’t strong in the Republican party.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this
WAR IS PEACE. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. Rudy Giuliani for President in 1984…oops…er…2008.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
Rudy is the perfect embodiment of traditional Republican values-a (pro-abortion, pro-gun control,twice divorced incestuous cross-dressing, mob-connected, closet Nazi that claims to be a) consevative.
By Churchill
December 5, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
Most people agree, Dr. Ru Paul is still a boob. PapaGener, see item A above. I have a degree in Political Science from a slightly better school than Ohio State, and you make my point for me. Was it the Bush is bad business, or the US is the center of evil in he world that got your underpants in a wad? Military Industrial Complex, Geesh. Let me guess some disheveled, aging hippie type prof. is your hero after Ru Paul. Son, I have read all the Goldwater speeches, Thanks. Does Wikipedia pass for a source in your Poli-Sci classes? If so, I think you are probably in the right program at Ohio State.
By gaoxiaen
December 5, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this
Seems like most people here agree that Churchill has his head up his a*. I doubt that he graduated high school.
By Churchill
December 5, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this
I love these attacks by the Ru Paul hacks. You guys are the best. Truly, I will be sad to see Ru Paul drop out. Hey but Mike Gravel may still be in the race at that point, and since you guys love a lost cause….
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
Ghouliani’s such a good judge of character, too. I’m sure he’ll have lots to say when he testifies at Kerik’s trial. Maybe he shared that apartment with Kerik to get a little on the side, after sex with his third wife got too boring.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
And it’s only fair that the taxpayer footed the bill for his adulterous weekends at the beach, though he did his best to hide the expenses by billing them to obscure NYC agencies. Churchill, you can tell us if any of this isn’t true.
By Churchill
December 5, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
Boy the Ru Paul hacks really fear Rudy.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
Churchill CLAIMS to have a poli sci degree from SOME university, but all he can do is name-calling. Not very convincing. Rudy’s on his way down. Pretty soon he’ll be sleeping over again with that gay couple he was “staying with” when one of his wives kicked him out of the governor’s mansion.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
Of course, this could be normal conservative Republican type stuff in New York City.
By Nick
December 5, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this
I think Churchill is right about everything. He’s so confident that he didn’t give his credentials and university so we may verify if he went to a better school than PapaGener and earned a PoliSci degree. But, facts and the truth never seem to get in the way of his argument. He’s bulletproof. Instead of electing Giuliani, I think we should elect Churchill. He never calls people names, he never uses false terminology to incorrectly label a candidate, and he doesn’t let the fact that Ron Paul has been a 10 term Republican Congressman get in the way of saying he’s not conservative. If Churchill says it, it must be true!
Churchill for President 08!
By Churchill
December 5, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this
Read up a little, Johnny come lately. Ru is an isolationist, a protectionist. These are unacceptable for me. Sure, I could drone on and on to try to convince a bunch of libs and Ru Paul hacks. But why bother.
A: Most of these types have a limited view of history and what history they do understand, they understand only through the prism of Bush is bad, the US is the main force of evil in this world, blah, blah blah.
B: I find much more entertaining to tease the small minded. They get it. That is obvious.
C: Ru Paul really has no chance of winning. Where is he in the polls. Yes I know the media will not give him a fair shake. That is true for all running on the Republican side. Look at the polling data kids, Ru barely registers. A small vocal minority of supporters, a movement does not make. Peace.
D: Ru Paul is a boob.
Great way to make your point about name calling. You Ru Paul supporters do a great job defending your washed up boob.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
And his deal with Rupert Murdock and Fox News. Maybe you can enlighten us on that? Don’t worry, Rudy will probably have to testify about that after he testifies about Kerik. He’ll be too busy going to court to fulfill his duties as President.
By Wackolibhack
December 5, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this
It is Bush’s fault that Ru Paul is a boob. It is also Bush’s fault that Churchill is dumb. I hate Bush!!!
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this
It’s not that we fear Rudy, Churchill. It’s that people like you make us want to puke.
By Churchill
December 5, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
Paging Will Jones…. Paging Will Jones. Hey Will, someone trying to out crazy you. Just wanted to let you know.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
And it seems that you’re attracted to cross-dressers (like your hero, GHOULiani). That’s probably why you like to use the name Ru Paul so often.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this
I like name-calling. It’s a shame that they censor it here. They cut out my choicest comments about you, Churchill.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this
But I can say that I support gay rights as a matter of principle. For you it must be a VERY personal interest.
By Churchill
December 5, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
Sure Nick. What are you going to do? Invade my privacy. That is a great way to show some libertarian support for Ru Paul. Undergrad Degree: “Top 25” ranked State University. Ph.D, Political Science, Brown. (Like I am going to give you enough to track me down). Since then, I have taught, advised some candidates and found my way to a great career in Real Estate Development. A Renaissance Man, if you will. Listen, I dealt with liberal, blame America first hacks all through school. They are all the same, it is like shooting fish in a barrel. Seriously lets talk about you and Ru Paul some more.
P.S. Ru Paul is still a boob.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this
And I’m the Academic Dean at Oxford. You think I believe your BS? You should go back to the Renaissance where you belong. And you can go have sex with your fantasy lover, Rude E. Ghouliani.
By Cleaner44
December 5, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
Ron Paul is the people’s choice! He has been dominating in the straw polls, debate polls, fundraising, web traffic and grass roots networking for a long time now. He is clearly a “top tier” candidate. I have gathered the evidence to support this statement and created a website.
Please visit www.thecaseforronpaul.com and judge for yourself.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this
Churchill is probably a garbage man that managed to find a workable junk computer at the curb, brought it back to his junk-filled hovel and tapped into his neighbor’s phone line because he’s too broke to get his own. What you claim to be means nothing online. You’re not smart enough to figure that out? Argue with facts, give your opinions, but act like a jerk and you get treated like one. No one cares what you claim to be. You’ve already shown that you’re an idiot. No amount of claiming these great things will convince anyone now.
By Churchill
December 5, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
That’s funny gao xia en, I had you pegged as a PoliSci prof. at Ohio State. Oh, well.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
Actually, it’s almost midnight where I live and I have to work at the university where I teach tomorrow morning. So good night.
By Churchill
December 5, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
Ru Paul is still a boob. I have addressed his policies. I think that he is wrong. You are the picture of liberal tolerance, gao. I oppose Ru’s foreign policy. I have stated my claim. Retreating to the confines of our own borders is not a viable option. Anyway, its more fun to pick on hacks. By the way, garbage collectors are “salt of the earth” folks. Your arrogance and disdain for those you deem to be undereducated speaks volumes. This is the same kind of mentality I encountered while going to school. You libs just can’t help being haughty, shallow thinkers. Please, go on.
By Sue Nora Rawenaburger
December 5, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
And you, Churchill, automatically discredited yourself by using “Ru.” It appears very immature and lacking in coherent thought processing.
By Wackolibhack
December 5, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
It is Bush’s fault that Churchill “appears very immature and lacking in coherent thought processing.” I hate Bush!!!
By Anonymous
December 5, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this
If Churchill had any proof of Ron Paul’s so-called “isolationism”…
He still wouldn’t provide it. It’s so much easier to be a knee-jerk neocon tool than to actually THINK once in awhile.
By madmambodog
December 5, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
Let’th keep blowing a trillion a year. “Remember Theptember eleventh. I wath there.”
Ghouliani is a sham.
By Paulin08
December 5, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
Dr. Paul did say he would bring the military home, right? It is the main reason I am supporting him. I am missing something Anonymous?
By Iron Mike
December 5, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
“Under what circumstances, if you were President,” asks CNN’s Wolf Blitzer of the Congressman, “would you intervene outside the borders of the United States in some crisis around the world?”
“When Congress directed me to in an act of war,” responds Paul, saying that he would act when Congress followed proper procedure and determined that there was a national security threat.
In his response, Paul admits that he would relinquish the President’s role as commander-in-chief.
In short, When Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi tell Paul it’s OK for the U.S. to defend itself, he’ll get right with it.
This isn’t leadership, it’s abdication of responsibility that is based on a flawed interpretation of the Constitution. That’s why Mr. Paul is at negligible poll ratings. We’re not buying what he’s selling.
There’s your proof.
By Anonymous
December 5, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
PaulIn08: Yes, Paul did say he’d bring the troops home (and about time, too!).
Which bears no resemblance to the “isolationism” fantasy Churchill keeps raving about.
By Anonymous
December 5, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
Proof of what, Mike? That Paul would actually limit his authority to what’s specified in the Constitution?
Gosh, what a scandal; better call CNN!
By Elizabeth
December 5, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
Dear fellow Ron Paul supporters: The strategy of the trolls in this thread and others is to waste our time and prevent us from doing what we need to do further our own goal, which is to increase Ron Paul’s name recognition and the number of people who research him on the internet, think critically, and then see clearly that he is the best candidate to come forward in decades, if not in our lifetime. I suggest we ignore the trolls and get busy walking our precincts. That is a better use of our time.
By A Mom in America
December 5, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this
Ron Paul IS getting a lot of support; the idea that his “fundraising won’t translate to votes” is the same old repeater line on MSM right now. The truth is, the folks out here spending real time researching facts and voting records of the candidates (as opposed to parroting off lines from major media reports) understand that Paul is the real deal. He’s inspired a lot of hope, and a lot of fear in the politics as usual crowd. We’ve been asking and praying, for REAL change for many years, and most of us recognize the real thing when we see it. Paul wouldn’t have almost 11 mil in the bank today, and a fundraising day coming up that I imagine will be yet another record-breaking day for the good doctor, if he didn’t have a lot of support. BTW- If Paul TRULY was dealing drugs to his patients, or any other such nonsense, it would have been dug up and crowed on every major network in this country- fact is, all they’ve got is hit stories on the folks that have donated to his campaign; it would only be fair for them to do comparable pieces on who donates to Rudy’s campaign, would it not? I think he can win, and if we still have real elections that aren’t tampered with (which I doubt), he WILL win. I am constantly impressed by the well-researched, thoughtful and intelligent posts from Paul supporters, that often show how much they care about their country and are willing to take the time- let’s keep it that way instead of stooping to attacks on political opponents that are here to simply bait you. PEACE
By Churchill
December 5, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
Ru Paul is still an unelectable boob.
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 7:28 PM | Link to this
Seems like a lot of these guys that hate Ron Paul didn’t pay attention in high school civics. Poli Sci degrees! LOL!
By gao xia en
December 5, 2007 7:32 PM | Link to this
I can’t help it. Churchill is good at baiting people. You might say he’s a master baiter.
By Churchill
December 5, 2007 8:11 PM | Link to this
True story. So my cousin was working, as a hand on this big deal charter fishing boat off of the coast of Florida, the summer before he went to college. Towards the end of the season he and some of his friends were visiting and I asked, “How’s the charter boat business?” His friend looks and me and says “It turns out this year we were apprentice baiters.” My cousin chimes in, with perfect timing and says, “If we go back next summer, we’ll be master baiters.” I thought that was great. You know they were using that bit all summer long.
By Talon
December 5, 2007 10:48 PM | Link to this
Churchill’s a moron.
An Ideologue, like our president. short sighted and cruel.
It wasn’t isolationism that caused world war II. It was a policy of Intervention and pre-emptive war By Hitler…
Much like our current foreign policy.
By Churchill
December 5, 2007 11:02 PM | Link to this
What re-written history books do you read Talon? Regardless, Ru Paul is not a bad guy. He’s just a boob. Peace.
By Unaffiliated Voter
December 6, 2007 7:28 AM | Link to this
Get ready for the next BIG Ron Paul story! This one will upstage everything and ALL other candidates! AND, its being staged by RP supporters, not his staff!!!
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Buy your corporate advertising NOW, BE a part of histoire!
By Bitter EX democrackkk
December 6, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
Be sure to watch the Youtube.com interview of Ron Paul by NEWSWEEK!
There’s two parts to the interview on separate videos…
can somebody post this? Its maybe RP at his best.
By Iron Mike
December 6, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this
Paul Supporters:
Last night it was reported that Dennis Kucinich wanted Ron Paul to be his Vice Presidential running mate. Paul said no.
But THAT ought to tell you something. Birds of a feather….
By Rob M
December 6, 2007 8:04 PM | Link to this
Wow Churchhill ever think you might have been brainwashed in your education. I love the I was educated in this prestigious political science program talk. Do you have any idea of our military capabilities? Ron Paul aside for a minute because this is my belief not his. I think I layed out pretty well in a previous post how worthless our presence from a strategic standpoint is in the first place. “In reality our military could have cruise missiles turn any of those countries into a sheet of glass in 30 minutes or less or your Camel burger is free. Our presence in the region didn’t stop Iraq from invading Kuwait or staying there for a while before we built up a force. Why not keep our forces at home? They can be deployed anywhere in the world in days. ” I don’t know if you noticed but we are feeding China and they are building up a huge military force that is modernizing everyday while instead of using our cash to stay ahead in terms of technology we are scattered all over the world. To discount that is foolish at best. To think that is a blame America attitude borderlines on crazy. Know your enemies. Islamic terrorists are only dangerous to us if we put ourselves in the line of fire. If we controlled our borders and who comes in and out of our country we would be safer with our military at home. The Arabs will fight amongst themselves and never develop into the threat you believe. Did our presence in the world stop North Korea, China, India, or Pakistan from developing nuclear weapons? Iran could have a program way ahead of what our just released intelligence reports claim. Carry your National ID card proudly while you get treated like the enemy. But that’s right Mr. Churchill everybody is crazy….
By Churchill
December 7, 2007 2:17 AM | Link to this
No, Rob, your are nuts. I reject and will not stipulate any of your arguments. For example, the “line of fire” argument that you, so self righteously, spelled out is flawed. If you mean what you say, then are New York City, Washington, D.C. and Shanksville in the line of fire? They hit us first? True? In spite of the left, this country will deliver the last blow in this struggle. Your disdain for your own country is part of your problem. You simply cannot identify the enemy. As for our force capability, I say, unleash it. All but the nukes, everywhere these thug terrorists find safe harbor and support. Sir, you do not understand our enemy. Trust me, he understands you and counts on your ignorance.
By Rob M
December 7, 2007 7:15 AM | Link to this
Churchhill I love how you try to discount my ideas by saying that I have disdain for my country. I am a military veteran how about you. I’m pretty sure we easily could have prevented 9/11 by having a much tighter control on visitors to our country and by having secure borders. I guess you are part of the they attacked us because of our freedom crowd. Also if we go to war we should go to win and minimize our losses not fight some liberal campaign where we occupy another country and tell them how to live but don’t fight to win. Let’s start a war and then make up silly rules to prevent us from winning. Somehow you have been convinced that these Islamic fools can be reasoned with and taught to live our way of life. I guess your revisionist history of who attacked us on 9/11 suits you just fine when trying to justify your position but the attacks were planned and launched from Afgahnistan. Hey I believed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction at one time too. We provided them the weapons. So they must have been there at one time. I’m sure they went over the border to Syria or Iran but the reality is Saddam hated terrorists too. He had a tight control on his people and destabilizing a country like that has led to an influx of terrorists in Iraq. Do you really believe your leaders are interested in the Iraqi peoples freedom or securing oil in the region? You try to rationalize your argument with a liberal vs. conservative argument. I am not so intellectually limited as to stand on one side or the other. The real conservative movement is dead in this country anyway. Giving up freedom at home for perceived security at home. When they attack us on our own soil again because we didn’t control our visitors or borders how will you respond to that. Maybe then we should occupy Iran too. Keep drinking the Kool Aid brother. Next your going to be quoting me bible verses to justify things.