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By Atlanta Pearl Girl

October 10, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this

I think if two people want to be married, either gay or straight……that’s their business!!!!

Atlanta Pearl Girl

By Anonymous

October 10, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

We can only hope. Sometimes the only way to get rid of bad old notions is to wait for their adherents to die out.

By ryan

October 10, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Dear Abby, Thanks for believing in the respect all people deserve despite their differences and thanks for being brave in the face of a sometimes overwhelming mainstream content to minimize the struggles of gays.

By Gentle G

October 10, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Seems there are two types of marriages: 1- spiritual between man and woman, and 2-financial between anybody!

By muffin

October 10, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

I agree with Anonymous at 9:20 a.m. It may take a while, but I think there will be gay marriage in the years to come once these old stodgy politicians with their antiquated notions are out of the picture. The times will be changing for the better.

By Red

October 10, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

So, are you saying that ALL marriages between a man and a woman are “spiritual” or that a proposed marriage between two people of the same sex can not be? Give me a break!

By RJ

October 10, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

I in no way condone gay marriage because it goes against my beliefs. However, I don’t pass judgement on someone just because they are gay. This is a subject that will remain controversial, becuase whether or not we want to believe it, this country was founded on Christian principles and beliefs.

As for Dear Abby, she has a right to her opinion. Just as those opposing have a right to theirs.

By kat

October 10, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

GROSS.

By abc

October 10, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

The Bible defines marriage as being between man and woman, and cites homosexuality as a sin. Based on that, to call a homosexual union ‘marriage’ is a misnomer. Spirituality of such union, if there is any, has not to do with Christianity.

Just the same, gay people should be allowed civil union and be accorded the same rights as married heterosexuals. Everyone pays taxes, and it’s not government’s business what the constituency does regarding such unions.

By puzzled

October 10, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

Personally, I thought the whole idea of “separate but equal” was settled some time ago. I don’t see how the constitution allows one to declare that “civil unions” are for gays and “marriages” are for straights, especially since some groups want to treat them differently (inheritance, custody, etc).

By TH

October 10, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Thank you Dear Abby.

Next up, Dr. Laura. Ha.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

I find it absolutely disgusting that this woman would support homosexuals seeking to be married. It flies in the face of the good, honest Christian principles that this country holds dear. It is a bunch of liberal nonsense and turns my stomach. I can not fathom first off how such an immoral act as homosexuality could even be condoned at all, let alone blessed into the sacrament of marriage. The Good Lord will surely be the final judge on this, just as he was in the past. There is nothing holy about these people, they are demonic, evil sinners who should be prayed for, not embraced. They are caught up in the ways of evil and of the sins of the flesh and by supporting them we are risking condemning our futures!

By abc

October 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

More specifically, then: whether gay people are married in a church is up to the church, but given what the Bible says about it, that should never happen.

Getting married by a judge should be possible for any citizen that wants to do so, regardless of sexual orientation. Whether it’s called ‘marriage’ or ‘civil union’ is mere semantics.

By Kicked Out Of Va Tech In 1984

October 10, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Well, then, Alexis, since you feel that you should be living in a theocracy, why don’t you move to somewhere like Saudi Arabia where women are kept in their places?

By Cammi317

October 10, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

I am not in favor of gay marriage, but I have to comment on the comment about this country was created based on Christian values???? Funny, every history book that I ever read clearly stated people came to escape religious persecution. To not be forced to adhere to another’s religious values was the entire point! Give me a break.

By Mike K.

October 10, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

I have no problem with gay marriage. If they can find a church that will marry them then more power to them. I do think the government needs to get out of the marriage business. How about this: Civil unions for everyone-that way legal and social issues like inheritance and insurance could be solved relatively quickly and cleanly. If you and your partner want to have your union recognized by a church/religion/denomination, then do that as an added bonus. That way religions still have the right to say “no” and the government doesn’t discriminate.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

abc — no, no, no, no, no! “Getting married by a judge should be possible for any citizen that wants to do so”…so a child molestor should be able to marry a young victim? We should have 50 year old men marrying 10 year old girls? Where do you draw the line? At which sick, evil sin do you say “no”? If you allow two men to join in marriage, or two women, how do you stop the pedophile from marrying his young victim? If you tried then the evil, Godless liberals and the ACLU would file a lawsuit because you are trampling on the pedophile’s rights. You can’t open that door. Once you start accepting sin then you are on a slippery slope.

By Dismayed in Decatur

October 10, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Dear Alexis,

Please explain to me how a marriage between two same-sex people will harm you. That’s the part I really don’t understand. How does supporting same-sex marriage mean “we are risking condemning our futures?”

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 10, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

I am in Tampa and I could hear Alexis thumping her bible clear down here.

By Mike

October 10, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Alexis - thank you for showing me the light. I didn’t realize I was “caught up in the ways of evil…”. I thought I was caught up in paying my bills, earning a living, cooking dinner, taking care of my parents, raising our son in what it means to be a responsible adult and contributor to society, etc. WOW, I didn’t realize this was evil! You fail to realize that gay people are no different than you. I’m not sure what God you praise but my Christian God made me in his image and he loves me just as much as he loves you. I’m sure your failure to accept and your choice to discriminate is an embarrassment to Him. I don’t remember Jesus ever turning his back on anyone as you have chosen to do. You really need to listen to yourself so you can see how ridiculous you sound. I truly feel sorry for you.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 10, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

I am in Tampa and I could hear Alexis thumping her bible clear down here.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Cammi317, please go back and re-read your history books. The “escape the religious persecution” argument is not fully baked. The religious persecution that they were escaping was that of the Church Of England. The King had ordered a state religion, forcing everyone to join The Church of England (also known as the Episcopal Church); any one who was not willing to align themselves with that church was deemed a heretic and traitor to the crown. The Puritans and Quakers (both CHRISTIAN relgions) sought the New World as a place where they could practice their faith, a CHRISTIAN faith, without fear of being declared a heretic or traitor to the crown. No one is suggesting that Americans do not have religious freedom, we do. We are free to practice any relgion we so choose. But ever use that argument of “escape religious persecution” as a way to say that this country was not founded on Christian Principles. It doesn’t hold water. So again, please go re-read your history books.

By JB

October 10, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Really, Alexis. Have you ever considered that Jesus said not one word about homosexuality? What you choose to accept in your household and your church is your prerogative, but “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.” (Matthew 7:1) You Old Testament literalists need to get with the here and now.

By cdb

October 10, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

put religion aside, put personal beliefs aside, think in terms of human anatomy. Persons of the same sex are not anatomically designed to mate or procreate with each other. Come on people, all you have to do is look at the equipment males and females are born with to figure out that if you are having intercourse with one of your own sex, you are putting parts of your body not only where they do not belong but in places where it is detrimental to your health to do so.

Really, it’s that simple!

By Delighted in Decatur

October 10, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Preach the word, Mike! As a Christian Lesbian pastor, I wholeheartedly agree!

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

Gays are sinners! Homosexuals destroy the moral fabric of our society. It harms me and risks my future as well as the future of my children and the rest of civilized society by exposing us to a culture of pure evil. The vile homosexuals and their wicked ways degrade America and make us look weak to the rest of the world when it comes to faith. They make us look evil and make the rest of the God fearing world dislike us as a nation because we have a sick tolerance for this perversion.

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

…when beings like Alexis finally die off, then the world will be a better place…it’s almost that simple.

By Paul O'C

October 10, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

This week Jews worldwide read from the Bible the portion on Noah. In it, the Noahide Laws are given which includes the prohibition on sexual perversion. Throughout the Bible, this prohibition is repeated and repeated and repeated. Why? Because G-d knows that for some the urge is difficult to resist. Some more difficult than others. We all have inclinations.

Many times we repeat ourselves to our children - important things - knowing they might not listen the first time. Same with G-d. Repeating these prohibitions on certain sexual relationships.

G-d help those who act on their weaknesses, whether it be same-sex, alcoholism, inclination towards violence, etc. Having a immoral and anti-social inclination doesn’t make it right, no matter what Dear Abby says.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 10, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

THUMP THUMP THUMP Alexis. People like you scare me.

By Horrified

October 10, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

That people such as Alexis still exist and spout hatred. There is nothing Godly in her rants. Just hatred and fear. This is what destroys the fabric of our society.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 10, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Tell me Alexis, what will you do if one of your kids turns out to be gay? Will you embrace them or will you disown them? I would really like to know your answer.

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

christians are sinners! christians destroy the moral fabric of our society. They harm all of us and risk our future as well as the future of my childre, and the rest of civilzed society by exposing us to a religion of pure evil. The vile christians and their wicked, wicked ways degrade our world and make us look week to everyone when it comes to anything. The christians make us look evil and make the rest of the world dislike us as a nation because we allow the christians and every other religious nut to worship as they like.

By Red

October 10, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

Just like so many other blogs, some have lost sight of what it is about. It is about Dear Abby, and her take on issues, not totally about “Gay Marriage” and certainly not about religion.

By Anonymous

October 10, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

cdb: And that has what to do with the principles of equal treatment under the law?

abc: I’d agree with you IF the Christian church could provide proof that they own the copyright on the word “marriage.” As long as it’s a civil matter (“By the power vested in me by the state of X…”), I see no reason not to call it “marriage” when a justice or judge performs it.

No matter what any number of churches have to say; they can recognize or ignore that marriage as they choose.

By Craig

October 10, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

The odd part about the whole marriage and church/Christianity argument is that one side acts as if there is a moral monopoly on the issue. Looking at how many heterosexuals, who are often Christian, are committing adultery, divorcing, etc. I wonder if the group defending the sanctity of marriage needs to go back and clean house on the heterosexuals who have clearly botched that definition. I don’t think using a moral argument when those on that side have really made a mockery of it is the best tactic to make one’s point.

By A True Christian

October 10, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Alexis honey… I want to know how you distinguish yourself from the likes of the Taliban? You both adhere to strict religious doctrine to guide your life… You both reek of vulgar intolerance and harbor extreme hate for those who frighten you… And why do they frighten you? because of your silly, old fashioned ignorance. Gay people have been on this earth since the dawn of man… long before Christians. Get used to it.

By IMF

October 10, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Anybody notice that there’s never a trend of people changing their mind from being in favor of gay marriage to opposed to it? It’s only a matter of time before gay marriage is the norm, and the detractors will have to deal with it. Good job Abby.

By abc

October 10, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

Now, yall just encourage Alexis’s troll-like behavior by responding. I doubt the sentiment she states is genuine.

While the 4 Gospels don’t mention homosexuality, the Old Testament quotes God as referring to it as an abomination, and Paul’s letters in the New Testament refer quite a lot to homosexuality as sin. So is fornication, or sex before marriage; so is drunkenness, so are lots of things. Never is one sin portrayed as more or less severe than another; sin is sin.

Jesus told the adulterous woman, who the Pharisees wanted to stone per the Law, to go and sin no more; surely that would apply to everyone. At the same time, He told the Pharisees that brought her to Him, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”.

I think it’s obvious that churches shouldn’t marry gay people. I think it’s just as obvious that it’s not any of governments business to legislate to gay people’s detriment.

By Deborah

October 10, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Alexis - I sure hope you aren’t eating any shellfish or pork - since those are considered a sin in the same verse that mentions homosexuality. If you are, you are certainly going to hell. LOL…

By Yea right

October 10, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

I love it when these bible thumpers say they are true Christians but spout hate. Kind of like that christian couple that have been on the news lately were he beat the crap out of his wife in a hotel parking lot and now that nasty divorce. Yep real christians…Let people live their lives and mind your own damn business.

By Anonymous

October 10, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

abc: Well, Christian churches, anyway… or those who still subscribe to a literal interpretation of that particular bit of Old Testament doctrine.

By Just Curious

October 10, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

If homosexuality is such an abomination, why did God create gays in the first place? You would think if this was an error he would have surely corrected it by now. Otherwise, in God’s eyes homosexuality must be condoned by him and as such it should be condoned by ALL of his followers.

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

Let ‘em get married. I can’t wait to see the first episode of “Divorce Court” with a gay couple. That will be a blast!!! Why should heterosexual couples have all the fun when it comes to screwing up institution of marriage?

By HAHAHA

October 10, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

Y’all are funny!!!!!!

By illuminusluna

October 10, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

I knew when I clicked the link I would undoubtably encounter someone like Alexis. Silly old me just HAD to read the blog even though I knew it would tick me off.

I was raised to believe that you should show kindness and compassion towards everyone not just a select few. I could care less about who people fall in love with and want to marry. I am secure enough in my own integrity and moral values to not be threatned by someones sexual preference. I have a very good friend who was raised by people like Alexis and the poor thing has struggled for years with the fact that she is gay. Her feelings of self hatred run deep—she doesn’t date and rarely even goes out. She sees a therapist on a regular basis and wishes more than anything that she could be attracted to someone of the opposite sex. This a person who is kind, smart, funny and one hell of catch. If I were gay she would be the love of my life.

Alexis, all that crap spewing from your mouth is ignorant and repulsive. If our society is ever really destroyed it will be people like you that do it. My idea of hell would be to spend eternity with someone like you.

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

I am so sick of listening to people justify their hatred by using the text of some ridiculous book written almost 2000 years ago. Almost everything in the Bible has been proven wrong by science and there is no proof that anything that you idiots go on “faith” is actually true and lots of proof that it is not true. Believe it if you want to but don’t tell me I have to believe it and live my life by YOUR moral standards. If you truly believe in religion than only one is right. Well which one is right. Somewhere in the world billions of people are wrong simply because of where they were raised? Really! How ridiculous. So if you live in a pocket of the world populated by Hindus and you are raised a Hindu then you are going to hell? If you are stupid enough to believe that then I have nothing to say to you. If you are stupid enough to believe that some heavenly being created the world in seven days six thousand years ago and that man walked with the dinosaurs, then you are an intellectual lost cause. Marriage is spiritual! Really! How ridiculou! The states with the highest rate of religious nuts are also the ones with the highest divorce rates (the south and Oklahoma are the highest). So stop telling me how much straight people value marriage because we don’t . We get married casually and we get divorced casually. We wipe our butts with our marriage licences on a regular basis. I am so sick of all this religious nuttery I could throw up. If you want to believe that crap then fine but stop trying to legistlate your own brand of morality. LIsten to your closeted gay priests and ministers all you want but leave me out of it!

By abc

October 10, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

Just Curious, God doesn’t condone that which is sin. Why doesn’t He simply do away with all sin, all suffering? Why did He create us and the planet in the first place? To say that since something exists, God must condone it, is a false assumption.

Christian churches needn’t rely on Old Testament condemnation of homosexuality alone. After all, being a Christian is all about the ‘new deal’ that Jesus’s death gave to us, freeing us from Mosaic Law. The New Testament does define marriage as being between man and woman, and homosexuality as sin, there’s no denying that. That’s not to say that the government should feel obligated or even entitled to prohibit same-sex unions.

By Mass Gay Marriage #'s

October 10, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

In the last seven and a half months of 2004 — “gay marriage” became legal in mid-May that year — 6,121 homosexual couples received marriage licenses from the state. But in 2005, that number dropped to 2,060, and in 2006, to 1,427.

The Massachusetts Department of Public Health statistics, cited first by Newhouse News Service, show that of the 9,608 total “marriages” performed from 2004-2006, 64 percent were performed in the first year alone — despite the fact it was legal for just half of that year.

By not surprised

October 10, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Not surprised - she and her sister have always been liberal and in support of just about anything.

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Lisa Love, if I was straight I would marry you! You just said what a lot of society wants to say, but are afraid to do..

By lots of anger here...

October 10, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Wow, the anger on this topic could power the entire City of Atlanta for a week.

By Mike K.

October 10, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

“To say that since something exists, God must condone it, is a false assumption.”

Why would God create something if he didn’t condone it? abc are you saying that God didn’t create homosexuals?

By Just Curious

October 10, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

If God is so anti-sin, why did he create sin in the first place? It just doesn’t make sense that he would create something he is so adamently against. Please explain this to me, I just don’t understand.

By Stacy

October 10, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

I know we have freedom of religion but I wish we had freedom FROM religion. I respect the right to worship and have your beliefs and all but why must I continue to get beat over the head by the personal and religious beliefs of others is beyond me. If you don’t like gay marriage then don’t marry someone of the same sex. If you don’t think churches should marry gay people then don’t go to a church that does. Why does everyone else have to live by your beliefs? Of all the egotistical nerve! Careful how you let religous folks litigate and legislate their religious beliefs because your religion may not always be the one in power. If we are not careful this place is going to turn into a Taliban-like society where religious values and creed dicate laws. A very, very dangerous attitude and way to go and I hope that does not happen.

By sct

October 10, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Divorce- No doubt a choice and an abomination as per Jesus Christ himself. Of course waivers galore are issued for divorce.

Where do I pick up one of these waivers Alexis?

After all, being gay is NOT a choice, divorce IS, and Jesus said nothing about my relationship. Btw, that relationship marked TWENTY YEARS Oct 1!

You also give yourself a waiver on judging others. What a great religion that must be. Was it Jesus that said “He who is with waivers, cast the first stone and smash their head in, then go get a divorce.”

By News Flash

October 10, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Y’all right-wing Fundie types DO know that not everyone is Christian, right? And that non-Christians get “married” every day?

By to Just Curious

October 10, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

God gives us free choice to choose good or evil. Otherwise we would all be robots. Evil is just an absence of good. Is darkness created or is it just an absence of light?

By sct

October 10, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

abc and Alexis, to be fair would you two and all others using the Bible to judge others please list your sins here so we may judge you also?

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Tommy. I would throw rice and sip champagne at your wedding anyday! I hope someday you have the right to walk amongst all these “Christians” without fear and that someday you have the right to live your life as you see fit. If there is a god then I bet he is pretty shocked that all these idiots are speaking for him and what they are saying in his name.

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

I guess those who have a real problem with homosexuality should move to Iran. According to Ack-ma-dinna-jod (or whatever the heck his name is) they don’t have homosexuals in his country. For all those who think Christians are intolerant of homosexuals, you better check out what the Muslims believe on the subject. In case you don’t think it matters, we may just very well be a Muslim country in a few decades at the rate we are going.

By Just Curious

October 10, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

If God gives us free choice to choose good or evil then why don’t his followers give us the same choice????? Kind of seems hypocritical to me.

By jgillis

October 10, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

What truly amazes me is that people will cite that in the bible it talks about marriage between a man and a women, yet the next sentences out of Jesus’ mouth is a condemnation of divorce. But the “family values” Christians want to talk about of both sides of their mouth - cite what they want but conveniently ignore what they don’t want to acknowledge. Selective reading eh?

Funny, Jesus is quoted condemning divorce by name but never says word one about homosexuality, and yet people have the audacity to “biblical mandate” for discrimination.

“Why do you observe the splinter in your brother’s eye and never notice the log in our own?” Matthew 7:3

By Rawena

October 10, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

Alexis — You and Fred Phelps should get together and discuss and plot your evil. I cannot imagine living life hating as much as you do. However, I realize you don’t even recognize this emotion your are feeling. I do hope you can get help — you and your ilk.

By The Ultimate Choptimist

October 10, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

LOL! I love the tired old argument that “this country was founded on Christian principles.” Indeed it was, BUT it was in the since that the founders believed they could use the Bible to essentially bribe or scare people into conformity because they knew that the federal government could not do so at that time.

It’s not as if Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, et al were card-carrying, Jesus-loving kooks like all these idiotic, so-called evangelical freaks we have ruining the country today. It was no more than a tool to get what they wanted. In other words, they looked at Christianity the same way that Karl marx did: the opiate of the masses.

Folks, this is not a ringing endorsement of Christianity and its principles. it’s just further evidence of how men have always used scare tactics and bribery to convince simple-minded people to behave.

So quit using this ridiculous argument to support you close-minded, biggoted agenda.

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

I figured out long ago that these “less government” Republicans are only for less government when they are campainging. When they actually get in office they expand government and regulations out the wazoo! They never had a moral/religious principle that they did not want to make a law. I am so sick of hearing how liberals are going to expand government when GW has ballooned government to an all-time high! Now you want to pass more laws regarding who can get married and who can’t. Why you say you even want to ammend the constitution over it! You folks are scary and dangerous and the faster your leaders get voted out of office the better. BTW, you don’t think Bush really believes all that Christian hogwash he spews do you? He just says it because he knows the yokles like to hear it and he knows that the “base” likes it. You all are fools, I am afraid. Gullible sheep who will believe anything.

By kgirlatl

October 10, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

I am… irritated by all the hate and condemnation. I grew up in a religious family, and I have been exposed to all of the fire and brimstone, and strict beliefs. How I did not follow suit, I will never know.

In Mike’s comment earlier, he suggested that all couples should have to have “civil unions” so they are equal under the law, and to have a religious ceremony seperately if they so desire to have the marriage “blessed”. I agree with this sentiment completely. Many European countries (you know, those places our ancestors fled from to avoid religious persecution… or who used the New World as a penal colony) already enforce this. If you want to be legally recognized as a “married” couple, you have to have a civil union first. Then you can do the big fancy church wedding. Funny how they have it right, and we don’t.

By B.

October 10, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

The same old comments on these things:

(Not to mention, of course, that history doesn’t support the claim that the founders intended this idea of a “Christian Nation”…aka “freedom of religion…as long as you’re protestant.” Their idea was to create a state without the corrupting forces of religion, and where religion could be free of the corrupting forces of the state. Prior to America, you had powerful Popes and Priests controlling territory…even raising armies to fight. (The Vatican’s army lasted well into the 19th century.) Such things had little to do with God, and everything to do with worldly power. At the same time, you had states slaughtering people for believing the wrong things. Protestants led the fight to change that - they demanded the right to have their religion set free from the state, and to no longer have their beliefs influenced by the corruption of power. As the Amish say, they wanted to be “in the world, but not of it.” To now claim that these people really meant to establish a worldly “Christian nation” based on their beliefs — to return to “Christians” the political power that they rightly surrendered in the name of belief in the next world rather than this one — is to insult those founders’ ideals and beliefs.)

By Higgins

October 10, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

So we are a country that holds marriage sacred? Okay, let me see. We have a 50% divorce rate. We have turned marriage into a game show (The Bachelor, HELLO!). We have other entertainment shows about divorce (Divorce Court), adultry (everywhere, my friend) and almost 30 percent of all children born in this country are born out of wedlock. I see no evidence at all in America that we hold marriage sacred. It’s all a bunch of talk with nothing to back it up. I personally don’t care who you marry or who gets married. That’s your business. If two men get married that has no bearing on my marriage. Why would it. What two consenting adults do with their lives has nothing to do with me and I would never propose to tell someone they have to live their lives the way I think they should. I don’t want someone doing that to me and I refuse to do it to someone else. I have three daughters and should one of them turn out to be a lesbian I will be so very sad. Not because I think it is wrong or because I think she will go to hell but because I will worry so much about her living in such a cruel and hateful world. Why can’t we just let gay people be happy and have the same rights we do. I simply don’t understand that and I don’t understand why they are so hated and maligned. Every gay person I have ever known has been pretty much just like me- just a regular person trying to get by in the world. I feel for them and I am sorry they have to put up with all the craziness, most of it in the name of god no less.

By Jones

October 10, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

To all you “christians” out there, exactly WHY or HOW does a marriage between two gay people really matter to or affect you?
Are they really hurting you? Are they hurting “marriage”? If so, please, without telling me the BuyBull says so, let me know why this bothers you people? And what business is it of yours?

Does it bother you that people use “toys” in the bedroom?

Whatever goes on between two people in love, should NOT affect you. So the country was founded on christian values. That was well over 200 years ago.
If two people are in love, are productive members of society, and pledge their committment to each other, what does it matter? Doesn’t christianity teach tolerance? Aren’t we supposed to accept each other as humans? Why does this bother you? What affect does it have on your life?

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

If one of my children turned out to be a homosexual I would pray for him, urge him to seek counseling and help, and would disavow myself of him until he repented for his sin. I would not embrace him as my son if he were a homosexual, I would pray that the evil would leave him.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Jones, it is offensive, it is evil and it causes the moral decay of society. It does affect me, it affects my children and anyone who is a true, decent Christian. Just as soon as we can get one more Republican on the Supreme Court your lifestyle will be outlawed, along with the babykilling abortionists. Your kind is pure evil. God did not make you this way, you were corrupted by Satan!

By Dog

October 10, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

The Bible says all kinds of things:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 -

“If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.”

By toddman

October 10, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

Alexis, if going to heaven means being around people like you, I don’t want to be there.

By Higgins

October 10, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Alexis, I am sure there are many differences between you and me and one of them is definitely parenting. I did not give birth so that my children could be clones of me and live their lives exactly as I see fit. I had them so that I could enjoy family and the love that comes from having one. I knew that when I had them that someday they may do things that shock me or anger me or things that I don’t approve of. Homosexuality is not one of these things; it does not bother me in the least and I don’t think it is wrong. However, I do personally hate tattoos, for example. I think they are ugly and very anti-social. Well you know what? I don’t have any! I didn’t marry someone who has them either. But I would never think of telling someone else that he or she can’t get one and can’t show it off when they do. That’s what freedom is all about. Should my daugters get them someday, I will be personally disappointed. I won’t like it a bit. But I will probably keep that to myself. Once she is an adult she can make her own choices in life. I will love my children no matter what. There is nothing they could do that would make me not want to be a part of their lives. I cannot dream of the idea that you could look into the precious innocent face of your little baby and think to yourself “I will not love this person if he turns out to be gay. I will cut him out of my life and never speak to him until he stops being gay”. That is so hateful and flies it he face of everything that being a good parent means. I love my children unconditionally. Do you know what that means? There are no conditions or qualifications for my love. It just is and always will be. I feel sorry for your children. I really do.

By ahh

October 10, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

By Alexis - I find it absolutely disgusting that this woman would support homosexuals seeking to be married. It flies in the face of the good, honest Christian principles that this country holds dear.

Kinda like believing the principle “Thou shalt not kill” but doing the same in Iraq?

By Stacy

October 10, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

There is pure evil on this blog today. Her name is Alexis.

By JJ

October 10, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

Alexis Seriously? You would turn your back on your own child because of a choice he made that you didn’t agree with? What about unconditional love?

By Lothar

October 10, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Umm. According to the bible Gluttony is also a sin, but there are plenty of large Christians walking the earth. Are they all, then, going to Hell?

This is a free country not everyone follows a Christian Doctrine.

Gays deserve the same rights as anyone.

If both parties are of legal age, and consenting - they should be allowed to marry. Period.

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

Alexis, I think it is time that you did some deep soul searching. There is a reason you have such a vehement hatred for gay people. Usually this kind of hatred is rooted in self-loathing. Often people who feel the way you do are just acting out on something that they hate within themselves and they are trying to do everything they can to convince themselves and the people around them they are not as they are. It’s rather obvious and so common it’s almost a stereotype. The guy beating up the homosexual is a self-hating closeted homosexual himself. It’s really a shame but you are doing a world of disservice to yourself and your fellow man with your rage and hatred. I am sorry for you and sorry that you hate yourself so much that you have turned it on others.

By ahhh

October 10, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

*By cdb - put religion aside, put personal beliefs aside, think in terms of human anatomy. Persons of the same sex are not anatomically designed to mate or procreate with each other. Come on people, all you have to do is look at the equipment males and females are born with to figure out that if you are having intercourse with one of your own sex, you are putting parts of your body not only where they do not belong but in places where it is detrimental to your health to do so.

Really, it’s that simple!*

Really, it’s not. What if two quadraplegics of the same sex fall in love and decide to marry? Sex is LIKELY removed from the picture, but love is not.

People with comments like yours seem to always bring up sex as if there are no other points of connection.

By CC

October 10, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

The concept of sin was created by MAN to keep MAN in line with the rules set up by MAN. MAN wrote the bible… not some mythological God. And MAN rewrote the bible many times in order to bend “God’s” laws to suit MAN (King James much?). So if you are going to hold up your bible as a shield against MAN, just know that it is flawed and full of fallacy. Remember, you were called sheep in that book for a reason. PS — I LOVE LISA LOVE. Now there is a voice of reason in a very dark forest.

By B.

October 10, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

JJ - “Christians” (and I use the term loosely) like Alexis don’t know what unconditional love is. But her view IS biblical - the bible calls for disobedient children to be not just shunned, but stoned to death. So, hey, I was just going to give my bratty kids a timeout, but I guess when in a “Christian Nation…”

By Melissa

October 10, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

Wow! This is a really shocking blog today. I feel so sorry for people like Alexis. It must be a terrible burden to walk around so filled with hatred and anger. I cannot imagine it myself. I am a very happy person and I want others to be happy, too. I don’t care what folks do when they close their bedroom door so long as it is between two consenting adults. I live in Decatur where, thankfully, gays and lesbians obviously feel accepted and free to be who they are and it is just the happiest most community oriented place you could imagine. I love taking my son to parades and concerts on the sqaure and I love seeing people of all types come together and be happy. I just don’t think I am that unusual. I wish more people like me would speak up and tell these hate mongers to keep it to themselves. I don’t see why we can’t be more loving and accepting of each other and I can only hope that folks like Alexis are a dying breed. I am in my 20’s and most people my age don’t care about whether someone is gay or straight or black white or purple. I don’t know much about religion, I will admit, but I think Jesus preached love of fellow man and things like that. How this got all turned around into a hate machine I don’t know. Please stop!

By Craig

October 10, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

abc I don’t necessarily agree with everything you’ve said - I think the original language in Romans is not nearly as clear as the pastors would have you believe - but I appreciate your willingness to meet halfway. You seem to be willing to win others by love - and not by the use of the government.

By BiteMe

October 10, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Alexis - I can almost guarantee you, you WILL have a gay child if you don’t already! That’s the irony of life.

Good luck.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 10, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Thanks for answering my question Alexis. I am not surprised by your answer and I respect your opinion no matter how misguided I feel it is. Of course I know you feel my opinion is just as misguided so I guess we are at an impasse. I do like this forum as it allows a free exchange of opinions and ideas. Also, I have been reading Abby and Ann Landers for 50 years and I have almost always agreed with their stands and wish they had gone into politics instead of journalism but I guess at least this way they can reach a larger audience.

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Alexis’ name has been mentioned 25 times as of 1:35pm in this blog.

It’s interesting that her views are not being tolerated.

Isn’t it rather intolerant to not tolerate views one considers to be intolerant?

Or, is it ok to be intolerant of intolerant views because you’re right and the intolerant one (not you, the other one) is wrong?

Way to go Alexis. They took the bait. You bunch of heathens.

(heathen: an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim; pagan.)

By Alan

October 10, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Wait to go, Dear Abby! If two people love each other, marriage should be allowed—and condoned!

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

I think the idea that sexual orientation is a choice is one heck of a crazy argument. I know for myself I am straight. I just am. I did not reason it or choose it. It is a deep down sexual urge for me to want to be with a man and I could not stop that feeling for anything in the world. Is it different for anyone else? I don’t think so. Sexuality is something that even scientists argue over and can’t unravel and I will never understand those who think homosexuality is a choice. Why would anyone choose to be so hated? Why would anyone choose to make themselves vulnerable to murderous, violent people who want to make them suffer? It is not a sin and it is not a choice. I know I personally practice oral sex and I bet nearly ever so-called Christian on this blog does too. No chance you will have a baby that way folks. It just won’t happen and if god did design the human anatomy then he knew what he was doing because the mouth can do some pretty wonderful things. I subject demands so frank talk and some honesty so I am going to lead the way.

By Zippy

October 10, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

I may be an infidel and a heretic but I’ll be damned if you call me a heathen!!!

By J.

October 10, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Why does the Christian faith have the monopoly on the term “marriage”? If an Atheist couple wanted to get married, do they apply for a marriage license or a civil union license? To say that marriage is for two people to join together and have offspring is nonsense as well. What about the couples who can’t have children or don’t want children? The main quote that conservatives use to keep gays from getting married comes from the old testament, where it also says that I should stone a woman at the gates of the city if she wears the skin from two different animals. Should we do that now?

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Zippy, so then you must be a Jew, Christian or a Muslim? Come on, tell us - which is it?

(heathen: an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim; pagan.)

By PoorPoorAlexis

October 10, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

All, we should be praying for Alexis. Her vile, evil beliefs are a threat to us and our children. Bigots like her make the rest of our nation appear weak and un-Christian. I think we should disavow her as a fellow Christian and pray that she will give up her evil ways and return to Christ’s unconditional love. Plus, she clearly has a GED and her husband won’t allow her to get a job, so she has nothing better to do than preach hatred on the Internet!

By JustMe

October 10, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

It amazes me how many people on hung up on the term ‘marriage.’

Married people do not have to have any blessing from any religon in the US. A man and a women that do not even believe in God at all can be ‘married.’ So, any arguement trying to tie religon to marriage is a farse, period. Most people that want to argue based on religon have deep seeded hatred and/or misunderstandings about gay people.

Bottom line: keep religon out of the government. And, this includes ‘marriage.’

By Zippy

October 10, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

I am an American

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

I bet a lot of guys who hate homosexuality also love to watch so-called straight porn. I have watched a lot of straight porn in my day and it is absolutely filled with women doing each other. I wonder why that is and I wonder why such pornography is labled as “straight”. Straight men love the idea of two women together but so many of them are physically sickened by the idea of two men together. I find that interesting. Just food for thought.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

I don’t think anyone here is a “heathen”. I simply think they are wrong when they support this immoral behaviour and would allow two people of the same sex to marry, thus dilluting the holy sacrament of marriage with satanic influence and evil. It is wrong. No matter how you try to spin it, homosexuality is a sin, it is an evil abomination and is one of the tools of the devil to destroy Christianity. Embracing homosexuals is wrong, it strengthens the evil hold on the world that sadly is already quite strong. Homosexuals need to be prayed for and cured, and the sinner should be loved, but should not be embraced until the sin is behind them. Prayer is the love that they need when they are in that dark sin, not hugs and kisses and a mother’s embrace. They need prayer and need to fix themselves and embrace GOD!

By BiteMe

October 10, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Geez, I love a true Southern Christian! These people will preach the bible left and right and tell us how Jesus forgives those who sin……but yet are THEY forgiving???? These are the same people I saw Sunday holding up anti-abortion signs in groups on Sunday off Johnson’s Ferry Road, with words like JESUS HEALS AND FORGIVES - So then, if Jesus can forgive and heal, then why can’t THEY?? If you ask God for forgiveness, he will forgive - Isn’t that what you preach? But you can’t follow your own religion? Hypocrites. Just beliefs from a book written over 2,000 years ago, and people throughout time have given their input in over the years to make it their own……just warped views that only fit THEIR morals.

OH, you like astrology? Sinner.

You’re gay? Sinner.

You eat too much? Gluttony…….. Sinner.

You’re Jewish? Well, even though Christians worship one, I guess they are not Christian, so……SINNERS!

SIGH God loves a variety. That’s why he made us all different, and we are supposed to learn from each other’s difference and be accepting to each other, so eventually we will become ONE entity in the longrun.

Please, practice what you preach and stop assuming EVERYONE is a sinner but yourselves!

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

PoorPoorAlexis…hardly. I actually have a MBA; but that’s not really relevant. No, I don’t work. I do not need to work. My husband makes more than enough money to take care of me.

By B.

October 10, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

supercrewdrew - Don’t make the mistake of confusing “tolerance” with “silence” or “agreement.” People sometimes trot out that old “you have to tolerate my views” baloney to argue not that their right to express their views must be respected (which is true), but also that they have a right not to hear bitter disagreement with such views — a right to express their views with no rebuttal (which is baloney). Outlawing her church, burning her books, outshouting her so that no one can hear her words (ummm…you listening, Columbia U.?) - these things are intolerance. Telling her that she’s dead wrong isn’t “intolerance” — it’s argument.

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

According to Dictionary.com a heathen is “an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim; pagan.”

Gosh, you people are so touchy. What’s wrong with being called a heathen?

Lisa Love…girl…you some kind of freaky!!!

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

B…come on now…

Intolerance: lack of toleration; unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect contrary opinions or beliefs, persons of different races or backgrounds, etc.

Tolerance: a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one’s own; freedom from bigotry.

Some on this blog are using hate speech when responding to views they consider to be wrong (such as Alexis’ views).

You know exactly what I’m getting at…

By JJ

October 10, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Alexis IS Hunter!!!!! The last line of her post says it all.

And Alexis/Hunter, you haven’t answered my question. Exactly how does two gays getting married, affect YOU and YOUR lifestyle. Can you please answer that direct question, with a direct answer? And no scripture quoting or praying….just answer the question, if you can. You do have a mind of your own right?

By B.

October 10, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

A question for Alexis:

Let’s say you have a man, and he’s a Satanist. (Not a satanist in your “everyone but my church must worship Satan” thing, but an actual, card-carrying, Satanic-Bible reading, goat-blood drinking, bald-headed, tattooed Satanist. Let’s say he even wears the furry pants.) He meets a woman, also a Satanist, and they plan to marry. They hope that their union will bring about a new era where Satan will rise and rule the Earth, and to that end intend to raise a bunch of little demonic Satanist children to extend Satan’s power on Earth.

So, they go to the courthouse and apply for a marriage license. In America, under the law, such license will almost certainly be granted. Should it be?

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

If being freaky means that I am not frightened by sexuality then I guess I am freaky. I know that whatever turns you on, so long as you are not hurting another individual is pretty much okay (yes, yes, you must be of age, consenting, etc…) Sex is supposed to be fun. If you believe in god and you believe he designed our anatomy then he made the orgasm for a reason.

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

Alexis, admit it- you have a gay kid whom you have shunned and you feel like the worst mother in the world, which you are. You may have an MBA, but I can just imagine in what. And your “husband” is probaly cheating on you, and you’re being gossiped about in your church. No wonder you’re a bitter old lady…

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Lisa Love…honey, that was a compliment - not an insult.

See what I mean. Everyone here is so touchy. Why can’t things be said without everyone being so touchy?

Man, please. Some of y’all like the idea of gays getting married - some don’t but this blog has broken down into a shouting match.

This issue is much like abortion. There doesn’t seem to be any middle ground.

I said it before. I can’t wait for the first episode of “Divorce Court” with a gay couple. It’s going to be so funny.

By Steve

October 10, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

Alexis I actually have a MBA; but that’s not really relevant.

Considering they give MBAs away on the internet, that’s not really impressive.

/has an MBA

By B.

October 10, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

Supercrewdrew - I don’t even think you know what you’re getting at. Yes, those are definitions of intolerance and tolerance…congratulations on owning a dictionary, I guess. But, like I said, none of those definitions say “agreement” or “silence.” Ah…but heathens (sorry, I mean “people”) are being too vehement in their disagreement, so they’re using…umm, “hate speech.” Ok - if you define “hate speech” to mean angry, personal disagreement, then sure (though I wouldn’t classify anything anyone — including Alexis— has said as “hate speech.”) But that’s all I’m saying on this subject, because (as a friend once said) “meta-arguments are stupid.”

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

JJ — two gays getting married does infact impact my life and the lives of my loved ones. It gives a false sense of approval to homosexual sinners and puts it in the mind of impressionable children that it is ok to be a homosexual. It could lead a child astray and send them down a path to Hell by making them think that it’s ok to be a gay.

B - NO! The Satanists in your scenario are no different than homosexuals. They are evil and demonic and should not be blessed with the holy sacrament of marriage until they repent their wicked ways and walk a path of righteousness to the Lord.

Tommy - I do not have a gay child, and as I said, I would shun him if I did. I would turn from him until he was no longer offensive to God. I would not feel bad about it, because it would be the best thing for him. If he were gay and I embraced him then he would have no incentive to get right with God.

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Tommy, I agree. Those crowing the loudest about sin are usually the biggest darn sinners in the room. I guarantee you Alexis’ husband is a frequent visitor to Southern Nights (in-town adult video store frequented by suburban religious nuts who want their urges to be a secret). If Alexis is anything in person like she is on this blog then she must be incredibly frigid. She would be well-advised to check her husband’s credit card receipts.

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

Hey, Supercrewdrew. I will take the compliment happily. This is a touchy room today. You are right about that. I must say, Alexis would be hilarious if she were not so dangerous. Why she thinks her religious views should be law is simply beyond me. As far as her MBA goes, well our President also has an MBA so I am not all that impressed. I also love the fact that she feels the need to inform us that she is wealthy. So not only is she an uptight, morally superior bore, she is aslo a snob! I bet she is a big hit in Cobb County.

By Fact_Checker

October 10, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

What if two brothers want to get married? How about sisters?

And, I want one of those internet MBA’s. How does that work?

By B.

October 10, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

Alexis:

Great - that’s just what I wanted to hear (I disagree with that view, but it’s consistent at least). Why (if at all) are Hindus different? They believe in dozens of different gods, sexual pleasure…all kinds of things that must (in your view) be the influence of Satan. A Hindu man and woman want to marry — with the goal of spreading those views to the next generation, to raise children who will then spread Hinduism.

So they go to the courthouse and apply for a marriage license. In America, under the law, such license will almost certainly be granted. Should it be?

By Alexis Should Read the Bible More Closely

October 10, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

Alexis-

I will be praying that your son turns out to be a flaming homosexual, makes a commitment to another very nice flaming homosexual, and that the two of them insist on showing up at your doorstep as often as possible to show you what it means to have love in your heart since it is something you apparently are missing. Who knows, perhaps you would come around and become president of your local P-FLAG chapter!!

By SteveO

October 10, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Lisa Love, Tommy

Why are you guys wasting your time arguing with this woman. Alexis is delusional. She actually believes that there is a Magical Sky Wizard that is all knowing, loving, and powerful and yet does nothing to alleviate the suffering in the world. This Wizard even had a son that turned into a Zombie and then flew into heaven.

You could have an equally productive conversation with that guy on MARTA that thinks he’s Jesus.

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

Lisa, I bet Alexis is P….. off! The audacity that her husband would hang out in a j… shack with other “christians”, and how could her god let her have a gay kid?? Alexis, we hear your anger! So what’s your god going to do about it?

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

Lisa Love, thank you for your concern but I can assure you that my husband would not betray his marriage vows. He is a good Christian man and a strong Republican. He is a good father, husband and provider and he would never commit adultery.

By SteveO

October 10, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

Fact_Checker And, I want one of those internet MBA’s. How does that work?

If only there were an INTERconnected NETwork of computers that could be SEARCHed with an ENGINE of some kind.

You can also become a minister on the internet too. I recommend those instead. You could be bilking old folks out of money by then end of the week!

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

Yo Fact Checker, there is this marvelous thing on the internet called Google. Just type in MBA and you will find all you need to know. Or Alexis can tell you how she got her Jesus ordained MBA for Oral Roberts University or some such idiot place. However, I think I speak for everyone who works and goes out the the world- thank goodness she is home! She truly belongs there.

By Kristin

October 10, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

IF Alexis is really a real person, then WOW! I think she might have rabies! I do think that people like her are definitely a dying breed and that is why they are all so angry. That, and the fact that are all just morons! Equality for every citizen!

By BiteMe

October 10, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

To “Alexis Should Read the Bible More Closely” - thank you for my laugh of the day! That was classic. Also vibrates off of what I said earlier - She WILL have a gay child if she does not already - Life is ironic, and the more you hate something, the more you end up having to deal with it! That’s God’s way of having you learn to accept those around you…..it’s brilliant, really! Just like God is.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

B. - again, no. While I understand that America is a country of religious freedom and people are allowed to practice whatever wacko religious belief they like, I do not think the holy sacraments of Christianity should be extended to them. I think that as far as their own strange religious beliefs go they can have whatever commitment that they wish, but I do not like the idea that our government, founded on Christian principle, is forced to recognize their union. I disagree with Budhists, Hindus, Jews, and any non-Christian faith being legally recognized as married in this country.

By NICK

October 10, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

It’s obvious that “Dear Abby” is a vagaterian……..

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

…you’re right SteveO, Alexis has merely been entertainment for us today. As dangerously pathetic as Alexis is, and as sorry as we all feel for her, she and creatures like her will soon be gone, the world will be a better, loving place to live in, Lisa Love and I will hang out together and burn a j..nt in a christian church and think of old Alexis, and laugh…

By Sanity

October 10, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

Seriously y’all… if we ignore “Alexis/Hunter/Bigot/Idiot” she/he will fade away. We waste too much of our time in this country paying attention to stupid people (Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Michele Malkin, Rush Limbaugh). It makes them think we care about their inane utterances. It inflates their self-importance and takes away from the serious discussion at hand. So altogether now… let’s turn our backs on them and — POOF — they will go away.

By WWJD Alexis?

October 10, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

I know that guy on MARTA who thinks he is Jesus, and he’s much more fun than Alexis. He also would not shun his children - much like the real Jesus! WWJD Alexis?!

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

ASRBMC - my son will never be a homosexual. We have raised both of our sons to be good Christian men.

Kristin - I do not have rabies. But yes, I am very angry that people like me are, as you put it, a “dying breed”. That means that evil, disgusting liberals are becoming the prevelent force in society, opening up a gateway to Hell that will be hard to close. It means that the evil people of this world are gaining strength over the good, and it means that far too many people are turning their backs on God. Damn right I am angry about that. All of the liberals in this country are destroying America.

By Abomi Nation

October 10, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

You Christians gave yourselves a pass on the abomination of divorce.

Whats next?

Are you Christians going to start marrying your dogs?

By BiteMe

October 10, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

OMG, if you REALLY think that you’re Republican, conservative, Christian husband would NEVER stray from his marriage vows, you are more disillusioned that I first assumed……and in major denial!!! They are usually the worst ones out there!

Pity, pity…….

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

SteveO, I totally agree with you about the idiocy of the god idea. Just plain silly. If there is a god then why did he stop with all the fantastic miracles 2K years ago! Where are the loaves and fishes in Africa? They could use ‘em. A thousand other examples like that could follow. I guess I argue with her because it is fun. I guarantee you she knows nothing about the history of the bible or how it was written or how it has been manipulated to be used as a political tool over the centuries. She is too dumb to realize that she is a mindless sheep in a mindless herd of sheep who allows herself to be used a pawn for some corrupt misister who makes sure he passes the collection plate under her nose every Sunday. I pity her, I dislike her, I laugh at her and I fear her, because I think most people in this country on some level, in some way agree with her. Now I have to go because the governor of California is on tv now naked as a jaybird screwing Sharon Stone. God Bless America!

By Fact_Checker

October 10, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

Thank you for the help with that internet MBA!

I’d like an answer to the other questions please since everyone here knows a bunch!

By sct

October 10, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

Alexis, please list your sins so we can judge you.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Sanity — Ann Coulter is a genious. Pure and simple. I just have to put that out there because I seriously think you do not appreciate everything she brings to American politics. She is a true voice of religious fervor. She should be revered, she should not be called “stupid”.

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

Lisa Love, channel please??..

By Kristin

October 10, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

There is a gateway to hell opening up?! Really Alexis! Tell the truth, you’re really Buffy the Vampire Slayer, aren’t you. Honey you have got to know how ridiculous you are.

By Rev Haggard

October 10, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Being a Christian is the best, a few months ago I snapped my fingers and all my sins disappeared.

How dare Dear Abby. She needs to snap her fingers!

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Tommy…Wow! Man you hit the nail right on the head. We will soon be gone.

At the risk of being ridiculed (go ahead, I know you can’t resist), I’ll mention the following.

There is an event mentioned in the New Testament (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17) in which Jesus Christ comes back to gather up all Christians (dead and alive) to take them to Heaven to be with Him.

He comes back for the rest of y’all some time later but, man alive, that won’t be a happy time.

Just remember, you heard it here.

I hope you don’t miss that event, but if you do, you’re more than welcome to smoke a doobie in my church.

By ASRBMC

October 10, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Alexis- My parents raised me to be a good Christian man also — but I turned out to be a flaming homosexual who never attends church. So, I’d start talking to the son about the importance of practicing safe sex, proper etiquette for hosting a dinner party, and the importance of always matching one’s shoes and belt if I were you. You’re gonna love being a P-FLAG mom though — they are a blast!

By Kristin

October 10, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Hey Alexis, remember sweets, the gay film fest starts tonight. Are we meeting up to see The Houseboy?

By Rick

October 10, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

Let’s see if you liberals can answer this! What if a dog wanted to get married to a chicken! Then what would you do?

Or how about if an android with a human brain wanted to get married to a washing machine? I bet you lieberals would like that!

By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)

October 10, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

I am not going to resign so I can introduce an anti gay marriage amendment right before next years election.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

sct — any sins I commit are between myself and my God, to whom I pray for forgiveness.

Kristin - laugh if you will, but it is the sad truth. Hell is being delivered to Earth just as The Bible says it will. The gates are being opened by the evil ways of the liberals who allow sin, who thrive on sin. You will not be laughing when you spend your eternity in fire.

By SteveO

October 10, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

Alexis Sanity — Ann Coulter is a genious. Pure and simple. I just have to put that out there because I seriously think you do not appreciate everything she brings to American politics. She is a true voice of religious fervor. She should be revered, she should not be called “stupid”.

Don’t ya just love it when you’re trolling and you keep getting more and more ridiculous you’re wondering how far you can push it and people still keep taking the bait?

By Dog Lovin'

October 10, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

Rick, dogs and chickens are not sentient beings so your point is ridiculous and makes you look like a fool.

By Kristin

October 10, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

See Rick, we libs don’t have to answer questions like this because we actually have brains. Marriage is between TWO CONSENTING ADULT HUMANS! It is NOT that difficult. Next moron please!

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Umm, Alexis. Do you really believe liberals are satanic? Really? You are a very silly woman. I can tell you that I don’t believe in satan anymore than I believe in god. I am proud to be a liberal. And I am proud that I am not like you. As far as liberal ruining this country, well, let’s think about some we have done…we facilitated and won the civil rights struggles of the sixties (you know when folks like you were using the bible as a justification for hating and killing black people). BTW that’s when southern democrats became southern republicans. That split was over civil rights. And we will win this struggle too. This is just another civil rights fight during which idiots like you wave the flag and the bible in order to justify your hatred. It won’t work. You and your kind will either die out or you will finally get the message that your viewpoint is so unpopular that you will shut the hell up. To a certain degree there will always be racists and bigots in the world and all we can do is fight them until they no longer have power. You are a Republican, right? Admit it! No way you are not. The party of hatred and intolorence. Who are you going to vote for? Guiliani (nah, pro choice and too many wives). Thompson (divorced, bimbo trophy wife and a total bore, nah). Romney (a Mormon, my stars! No!). I am curious. Fess up. Who do you support?

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

superscrew, your “jesus” means nothing to me, nothing at all, I’d rather worship Alexis’ vagina… her husband’s not doing it…

By john

October 10, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

Dear Abby is not an authority. She has no Ph.D. in any discipline. Abby is actually deceased and the column was taken over by her daughter. Her opinion has as much strength as George Bush telling Congress how to write a bill.

By abc

October 10, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

Alexis, equating Christianity with Republican affiliation and conservatism vs. supposedly evil liberals is an incorrect assumption. If your pastor preaches politics, find a different church.

According to the Bible, all people who have ever lived will go to heaven if they appear in the Book of Life. Revelation 21:8 says that after Armageddon, “the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Sexual immorality includes homosexuality, bestiality, fornication, and adultery. One can be married or not married and conduct those activities, but then, the topic is gay marriage, not who goes to hell, isn’t it?

By sct

October 10, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Rick, will divorce lead you Christians to start marrying dogs?

Would you then want to divorce your dogs? What would stop you from divorcing a tree?

Hey supercrewdrew, what are your sins?

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

ASRBMC — my son is not gay. My son will not be gay. I am sorry that you turned out this way, and I am praying for you to heal. I will pray that you can forgive whomever it was that molested you as a child and made you homosexual, and I pray that you will learn that this is not the right way to live.

By Fact_Checker

October 10, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Why is everyone so closed minded to my question about brothers marrying each other?

How about sisters?

Is there anything wrong with that?

By Ric

October 10, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Dog Lovin’

Rick, dogs and chickens are not sentient beings so your point is ridiculous and makes you look like a fool.

Kristin

See Rick, we libs don’t have to answer questions like this because we actually have brains. Marriage is between TWO CONSENTING ADULT HUMANS! It is NOT that difficult. Next moron please!

The correct answer is “only consenting adult humans can enter into contracts.” Marriage is a legal contract.

Er, I meant marriage is a Holy gift from on high in the spirit of our savior! LIeberals and gays devalue marriage and weaken it. If it weren’t for gays, that sweet little Britney Spears and her wonderful husband would still be married. Gays made Newt Gingrich leave his wife on her deathbed by weakening their marriage. Gays made Senator Craig cheat on his wife with men in airport bathrooms. Gays made Rev. Haggard smoke meth with a gay hooker!

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

Lisa Love, yes I am a Republican and very proud of that fact. I support Sam Brownback 100%. He is a true Christian Convservative and has all of the right views to lead this country in the RIGHT direction.

Liberals are satantic. They support movements and causes that are against God. That is the very definition of evil.

By sct

October 10, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Alexis, no, we want to judge you, just like you judge others.

Why are your sins private but others public?

You said 2 gays sinning together affects your life.

What sins are you committing that affect my life?

You need to tell us your sins so me may judge you too.

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

Hey, Tommy, the movie is Total Recall and I have it on DVD. You can come over and watch it anytime. You might also enjoy Pumping Iron. The governator does some pretty amazing homoerotic moves in that film. I love Republicans! They are hilarious. Speaking of hilarious, get a load of Rick. He went straight (no pun intended) from talking about people getting married to livestock and appliances getting married! Wow! That’s quite a leap, Rick. I guess I would have to say that I am okay with chickens and turkeys getting married. Or whatever the animals in question were. In fact, yes, now that I remember the last time I watched Fox News they were reporting on a really cute dog wedding which they seemed to think was great! In fact I have noticed they never miss the opportunity to roll footage of a poodle marrying a chihuahua (mixed marriage, no less) since it’s not like there is a war or anything of substance they could be reporting on.

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

Tommy…I expected that’s how you felt. Sorry about that. He will mean something to you one day - here on earth (I hope) or after death. Also, man that’s just nasty what you said about Alexis privates.

sct Actually, I have broken all of the Ten Commandments. That’s why I need forgiveness. You know what, though, it’s a great thing that my sins don’t have anything to do with your relationship with God just as yours have nothing to do with mine.

By Brother Lovin'

October 10, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

Fact_Checker — I’d say it’s ok if the brothers and sisters are really attractive. Only attractive people should be able to procreate anyway right? And that way, you’d be more likely to have super attractive children. There, you have your answer. Do you have a realy cute brother that you’d like to marry or something?

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Alexis, we’re all laughing at your perverted ignorance. Today you have helped the christian religion reach an all new low. You have done a disservice to christianity by spewing your vile ignorance. You’ve made a mockery of christians who ARE trying to do some good. Alexis, you are the LOWEST of the low-lifes. You have embarrassed yourself, your cheating husband, and your gay son. You are an embarrassment to christianity, to women, to humans in general. I feel sorry for you, like I feel sorry for the roach that gets squashed… your religion doesn’t even deserve to be infiltrated by you…

By Mark

October 10, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

Fact Checker. I agree that brothers and sisters should be married and i’m tired of these yankees that say otherwise. Georgians should have the states rights to marry whoever they want!

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

Hey Superscrewdrew (great name, btw). Who did you kill?

By ASRMBC

October 10, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

Hallelujah! Alexis, thank you for praying for me to see the light. I just realized I’m no longer gay! Do you know a nice lady at your church you could fix me up with? None of those girls on the church softball team though. I think they are a little on the lesbian side.

By Alexis is a lair

October 10, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

huh.. OK Alexis, you say your sins are between you and your God. So fine. Why are you on this blog attacking others for their perceived sins? Wouldn’t those sins be between the sinners and their God? You are a total hypocrite… end of argument… now go away.

By BiteMe

October 10, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

OK, I give, Alexis is a total fraud, just fueling the fire here. Her comments are just TOO out there.

Can we please stop quoting the bible, people? I have total respect for any religious book, but most of the passages don’t even make sense in this day and age anyway, and you can really translate a lot of it into anyway that you want it to be…. as long as it fits your beliefs, that is.

I guess I have sinned enough in my life to go to the lake of burning sulfur, but I talk to God everyday and have been forgiven, and God and I have a very special relationship, and I don’t have to go to church to prove it. I also don’t believe in going to hell, as I believe hell is RIGHT HERE ON EARTH - One must go through hell to get to Heaven. AKA, we must get through this life to reach heaven. ALL OF US. Could care less what most of you think, most of your beliefs are way too backwards for me to even comprehend.

And Alexis, honey….your son wouldn’t tell you if he was gay or not anyway! Maybe he doesn’t want to be shunned by his OWN MOTHER. Good thing you don’t have a daughter, she might be scared her “dirty pillows” might be revealed to someone one day before she’s married, thus she’d go to HELL!

Like you’re some sort of saint or something.

By Randy

October 10, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

supercrewdrew

Actually, I have broken all of the Ten Commandments. That’s why I need forgiveness. You know what, though, it’s a great thing that my sins don’t have anything to do with your relationship with God just as yours have nothing to do with mine.

Here here! That’s why I feel so blessed to be given forgiveness. It’s wonderful in our religion that you can spend your whole life lying, cheating, and stealing but as long as you’re “sorry” before you die you get out of the whole thing.

If only our justice system was more like that!

By Becky

October 10, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Doesn’t bother me one bit if same sex couples marry. As one poster said, such hatred is usually a sign of something that you are hiding. If one of my grandchildren grows up to be gay, I will love them no matter what..

By Stephanie

October 10, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

So Alexis raised her sons to be good Jesus fearing heteros! I laughed so hard I almost fell off her husband’s lap!

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Lisa Love, my love, I am in NYC, but would dig hanging out with you… AND, maybe Alexis will forward us her email address so that we can stay in touch with her when we need a laugh…this has been fun.

By Fact_Checker

October 10, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

Dear “Brotherlovin” You say, “… I’d say it’s ok if the brothers and sisters are really attractive. Only attractive people should be able to procreate anyway right? “

If brothers marry each other or sisters marry each other, there won’t be a lot of procreation goin’ on.

You do know what procreation is? Don’t you?

By Becky

October 10, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Great one Stephanie…

By gttim

October 10, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Gays have been able to get married in many churches for decades, if not longer. They do not seek the spiritual marriage, which they already can get. They seek the legal benefits of marriage which our society and country will not let them have. Religion and the Bible have no business in this debate. The question is merely a legal one.

By Mark

October 10, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Fact Checker, once again we agree. Gay marriage doesn’t make any sense because they cannot procreate. This is why all couples should be subjected to a fertility test. What’s the point of annointing the holy sacrament of marriage on a couple of dried up old geezers! God said, “be fruitful and multiply” not “let’s let old people be happy”.

By CC

October 10, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

Becky! You are a terrific lady. I am glad your grandkids have a person liek you in their lives, it will make them better citizens and people. And after reading some of these comments, it looks like we could use a little of that around here. Keep loving those kids no matter what!

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

*Lisa Love…oh you are a devilish one ;-) (that was tongue-in-cheek by the way…not suggesting you are a satanist).

The question was about my sins, not about the people against whom they were committed.

Randy…It’s just about that simple. That’s why so many people don’t “get it”. Actually, you do have to accept Jesus as your Savior (but why split hairs on a doctrinal issue this late in the game).

By Brother Lovin'

October 10, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

You’re right fact_checker. My bad. I got caught up in the moment. Well, at least attractive people coule be having sexual relations.

By think about it

October 10, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Stoner thought of the day - What if we’re ALL wrong?

Think about it.

By Son of Alexis

October 10, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

yes, I am GAY, Mom… get over it and shut up…and yes, Dad is having an affair with a girl (I think) from the Clermont Lounge. So shut up, Mom, or I’ll tell everyone you’re addicted to pain killers!…

By Randy

October 10, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

supercrewdrew

Randy…It’s just about that simple. That’s why so many people don’t “get it”. Actually, you do have to accept Jesus as your Savior (but why split hairs on a doctrinal issue this late in the game).

Either way it’s good to know that when St. Peter asks about those dead hookers, I’ll have an ace up my sleeve.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 10, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Alexis: Are you for real or are you just someone playing with the rest of the group? I am curious since you seem to be a tad out there. Now is the time to fess up since the day is winding down and we will be heading home from work soon.

By B.

October 10, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Ok, I’ve disengaged on this because I’m pretty sure by this point that Alexis is either kidding, or a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat trying to make Christians and Republicans look bad. Does anyone think that we have people who seriously believe only Christians should be allowed to marry, that the Republican party is blessed by God, or that liberals are “evil.” I mean, there’s that guy out in Topeka — the one who gets off on showing up protesting at military funerals, claiming that the soldier’s death is a judgment from God because of America’s acceptance of homosexuality… Maybe that guy seriously believes stuff like Alexis is saying, and maybe she’s part of his church or something…but isn’t the more logical conclusion that she’s yanking our chain?

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

think about it…you ARE wrong. If you think homosexuals are able to get married under God, then you are absolutely wrong. If you don’t believe that gays are destroying America, then you are completely wrong. If you don’t trust in God and in the true, moral values that his word teaches then you are inexplicably WRONG.

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Tommy, I am sure we would have a good time. I love NY and visit there often. You are lucky to live there. gttim is right this is a legal question and the church has no place in this argument (though churchies are so much fun to argue with. They say the darndest things.) This is a question of civil rights and the use of the bible as justification for denying civil rights is as old as the dust in Alexis’ underpants (sorry I couldn’t help myself). Plus that’s what these people do when you disagree with them. If you do then you either hate God, this country, the flag, the troops, grandma…the list goes on but it ends with people like me just being called evil liberal baddies. Oh I am going to ruin this country with my love and support of the gay man! Oh here I come Alexis! I’m gonna get you! And I’ll make your sons gay, too! I won’t be happy until that lesbo Hillary is President and then homos will rule the world and Alexis’ marriage will be deemed meaningless and condoms will drip from my teeth and wahahaha…uh, yeah, where was I. Sorry, I guess Alexis was right. Or maybe I am just in love with her. I am all confused. I am making all the wrong sexual choices. But it hurts so good!

By Bob

October 10, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

It’s bad enough that we have to work with people who we believe are living a sick life style. I’ll never believe that they should be able to get married and have the same respect for their union that I have with my wife of 36 years.

Dear Abby - you’re wrong. But I personally never have read your column anyway.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

John In Tampa, I am absolutely for real. I am a Christian woman with two sons, a wonderful husband, and a great home. My sons are straight males, good boys and I am a very proud mother. I dislike homosexuals, I feel that they are evil and need to be prayed for, saved and corrected. I think that the Democrats are going to destroy what is left of American morality if we don’t stop them, and I honestly, truly, and completely believe and know that America is first and foremost a Christian nation founded on Christian principles.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

Why did my son have to be gay?? Why did my husband cheat on me? It’s all your fault, you god*ed liberals!!! Shut the fk up you evil people and leave me alone!

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

B…I agree with you. Chains have been yanked.

I’ve been a Southern Baptist for 27 years and I’ve never run across anyone like Alexis.

Most of Christians really do have a “live and let live” mentality but that doesn’t mean that we don’t have opinions.

I have a friend who happens to be a Christian and a homosexual. He moved away years ago but we still keep in touch. It truly broke my heart a few years ago when he told me that his partner died of AIDS. Even though I don’t agree with his lifestyle (and he knows my position) we are still friends. He still sends me pictures of the boy that he and his partner adopted.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

Hey Bob, you interested in me honey?? I’d like to bl*w you in my church…

By I'm Jealous of Bob

October 10, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Well smell you Bob! Aren’t you the sh!t. Up on a pedestal. Better than everyone. It must be nice being superior to everyone else. Or perhaps lonely.

By think about it

October 10, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

Alexis…..I just meant what if all our religions views are wrong, that we ALL are correct in some way, and that we are all WRONG in some way, but nonetheless, not 100% correct in all our views.

I believe we are all one. But of course, you don’t, so I guess I AM wrong.

Geez, take a CHILL PILL…..

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 10, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

This is not directed at anyone in particular but I have noticed that a lot of born-again christians have been born-again with birth defects.

By $$$$

October 10, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

As an out gay man, I would just like to add to the “conversation” here today that I have no interest in being married. I see what complete fck ups straight people are at marriage and can’t for the life of me understand why any gay person would want to emulate the situation. I would like a tax break though. A large one.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Oh, wow…immitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

Honestly, I couldn’t even begin to care that you call me names, you laugh at me, you think I am a nutcase, or what have you. I know where I stand with God and I know my rewards are waiting on me at the end of life. I just hope I see some of you there.

By BitreMe

October 10, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Lisa Love…..I love you, girl! HA HA HA HA HA HA! Condoms wil drip from your teeth…..hee, hee….

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

…and there you have it folks…

Alexis (one of them, anyway) just revealed herself as a bonafide chain-yanker in the 4:36pm post.

Alexis you are a poot-head…

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

think about it…Chrisitianity is NOT wrong, at all. That is offensive.

By Lainey

October 10, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

If two people love each other, thats their business. If they happen to be gay, so be it. If you don’t like gay marriage, DON’T GET ONE!

By ASRMBC

October 10, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

supercrewdew — If only more Christians were more like you then the world would be a better place. While I disagree with your disapproval of homosexuality, it is nice to know that there are some evagelical Christians who are reasonable and have actually listened to the teachings of Christ about loving our brothers and sisters. I suspect there are many like you but that you’re drowned out by people like Alexis who think their religion makes them superior. Your friend is fortunate to know you.

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

Superscrewdrew, I like you and respect you (I guess, truth is I don’t really know you) but if you are trying to convince me that Southern Baptists are “live and let live” kind of people then I guess you think I have never been in a Southern Baptist church. Well, in fact I worked in Baptist church right here in Atlanta for six months and I can vouch for the fact that the SBC is absolutely obsessed with the “sins” of homosexuality and it was talked about openly and often and the hatred spewed by those people when they think they are talking to someone like minded is/was really astonishing. Back then I desperately needed a job and was too young and scared to lose my job to say anything but you better believe when I could afford to quit that job I told my boss exactly what I thought of her and her church. I have never forgotten that experienoe nor have I forgotten the experience of growing up in a small S.Ga town where most of the population was gay and black hating Baptists. So I am glad that some of your best friends are gay and all but don’t try to convince me the So.Baptists are a bunch of brotherly love people because they are not!

By Kristin

October 10, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Alexis is my gay male lover. All that homophobic, big haired Republican lady BS is just a sex game we play. It makes him SO HOT!

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Alexis, one more question for you dear…when this country was founded on so-called christian principles…did those apply to women and african-americans??

By Mark Bittner

October 10, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

I’m hoping gay marriage finally gets into mainstream so that the push for polygamy can finally begin. The notion of only being married to one person is antiquated and ridiculous.

By Kurt

October 10, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Stable households and monogamous relationships are a desirable thing, good for society and for the economy.

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Lainey, your post is superfluous drivel, how could one get a gay marriage since they aren’t legal and never will be? Sure, some rogue states have tried to legalize this abomination but soon the Supreme Court will be far enough to the right to fix that permanently.

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

$$$$- a wise person once said and I paraphrasing: Gay people should absolutely be allowed to get married. They have as much a right to unhappiness as straight people. Alexis is so sure she is right. She is positive she is right and that everyone who disagrees with her is totally wrong. Sure sign of a fool in my book.

By Lothar

October 10, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

If you were gay/ That’d be OK/ I mean ‘cause hey/ I’d like you anyway/ Because you see/ If it were me/ I would feel free to say/ That I was gay/ But I’m not gay.

By RB from Gwinnett

October 10, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

Alexis, Keep speaking the truth, girl, but understand you’re having Bible discussions with people who have never read it. They will continue to throw the “don’t judge me” line out there whenever you point out sin. And yes, Jesus DID point out sin in the lives of people he encountered. He told the woman at the well to “Go and sin no more” She was a prostitute and he told her her actions were WRONG. He judged her, yet he loved her just as much as he loves each of us; much like you don’t love your own children any less when they err. Do you point out their wrongs? And yes, Alexis and I sin too. We already know that.

I suggest all you who see nothing wrong with same sex marriage go read about Sodom and Gommorah. It’s referenced in the Bible, in Genesis, but the real story is to do a little research in archeology. They have found the cities and amazingly have found layers of sulfur and other things that match the Biblical description of what happened there. Check it out. Be careful, however, you might learn something.

Stay strong, Alexis.

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Lisa Love, I grew up in Albany (GA) and was exposed to racism, sexism, and rampent hatred for ANYONE who was different…this all came from the baptist church (sherwood, btw) that I was forced to grow up in. And, of couse, it’s still there, still producing people like Alexis, still a scab on society…

By Alexis

October 10, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Tommy, yes Christian principles applied to women and african-americans. The problem is that most women today have stepped above our place. We are to love, honour and obey our husbands. Many women refuse the last part of that vow, thanks to the liberal homosexual women who burned their bras and “liberated” women from “male opression” (give me a break!). As for African-Americans, well, we all know what a horrible thing slavery was in our country’s past and African Americans were not treated equally, infact the constitution calls them 3/5ths of a person, so they were not treated in a Christian manner, but that has been rectified.

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Don’t forget, or she will need to remind us again, Alexis lives in a GREAT HOME! It is large and beautiful and because she has lots of money she must be right. Alexis, if you are for real, and I seriously doubt that you are, why do you care so much that we know you are well-to-do? Really, you need to ask yourself that. Why does that matter in this argument? You are so insecure! Let’s not get into a peeing contest when it comes to money, you have no idea what kind of people are on this blog. I tell you what, most of us are on this blog because we either have no money or way too much so don’t assume you are going to impress us with your boasting.

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 10, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Polygamy. YIKES: Multiple mothers-in law. Unless of course you marry a bunch of sisters.

By Blondie

October 10, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

did someone mention the Clermont?? Come see me live on stage Saturday night and get your face slapped by my “babies”….see you there Alexis??

By Jill

October 10, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

I don’t think anyone should be allowed to get married. Let’s just get rid of marriage altogether.

By Blondie

October 10, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Alexis, if African-Americans were not treated in a christiam manner then, then when did christians realize this and “rectify” it? When did christians realize that THEY were wrong? Get where I’m heading, Alexis??

By abc

October 10, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Now, that’s just inflammatory and stupid, Alexis. The 3/5 compromise of 1787 was in favor of restricting the South’s influence in Congress by minimizing the amount of representation they’d be entitled to. Slaves obviously had no voice in politics or much else, but the South wanted to count their population along with the white population as regards numbers of representatives in Congress, the North wanted slaves to not count for more representation. The compromise was to limit the extent to which slave population increased Southern representation in Congress.

By Lisa Love

October 10, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Tommy, I am from Moultrie! I am sorry you grew up around such hatred but I am glad you got out and now live in a place where you can feel comfortable. I always knew I was meant for the city life and had my bags packed months before high school graduation. In all seriousness, I wish you the best and I take heart when I go on blogs like this that there are like minded people. I love to poke fun and say things to get a rise out of the fundies but I take these things very seriously. Hope to see you in cyberspace again soon!

By supercrewdrew

October 10, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Lisa Love…I didn’t say that the SBC (Southern Baptist Convention) was a “live and let live” organization. I don’t agree with many of their positions (please, no jokes - well, maybe one or two).

I’m sorry you’ve had bad experiences with Baptists. Some of them are knuckle-heads.

There is a book “When Bad Christians Happen to Good People…” (Dave Burchett) that I’ve been wanting to read. The title pretty much sums it up, I think.

Peace…

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 10, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

Time to go home, change clothes and catch some bass. Atlanta commuters, I am 10 minutes from home and have no traffic either way, tee hee. BYE ALL

By Tommy

October 10, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Superscrew, I think you’re a good guy for a christian…Lisa Love, you’re the best…and Alexis, I don’t hate or condemn you- I just feel sorry for you…that’s it..bye guys, it was a fun day.

By illuminusluna

October 10, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

I have spent this whole day looking at this blog—very entertaining BTW—I have laughed out loud at times from the sheer silliness of some of the comments.

I posted early in the day because like many of you I was offended by Alexis. Over the course of the day my anger has been replaced by pity.

She would disavow her own son?

Ann Coulter is her hero?

Being molested turns you gay?

These are not statements made by someone who is psychologically healthy. What makes me sad is that she will never recognize her own illness—she is to isolated by those suffering from the same affliction to a lesser degree.(or more—GOD forbid)

I was raised to beleiev in God and to feel compassion for the ill and needy of which Alexis obviously belongs—I am not trying to be insulting—she has had enough of that for one day. I ask that anyone who prays to pray for her and forgive her—she isn’t in her right mind…

By B.

October 10, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

RB- Read it, cover to cover. Studied it very closely, grew up with it, know it very well and followed it for a long time. I just don’t believe that the bible governs me, or other people who don’t believe in it, anymore than I think the Koran governs my life. Sure, I haven’t read the Koran…but I can confidently say that if it says that my tank-top shirts are a sin, my response isn’t “don’t judge me.” It’s “that’s ridiculous, and if the Koran actually does say that, I have a right to ignore it.”

Ok, Sodom and Gomorrah - an interesting topic. Maybe read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SodomandGomorrah — a good background of the “sin” involved there. The sin wasn’t homosexuality - it was inhospitality. In short, the problem God had wasn’t that the men of the town wanted to have sex with the two strangers, it was that they wanted to rape them. I’ll agree with that…if there are sins, rape is one of them. As far as “finding” it, despite the best efforts of a generation of Jews trying to locate old testament sites, they have not, in fact, found a burned city believed to be Sodom…but even if they were to…cities burn. It’s not like they would have found two 3000-year-old male bodies locked in an embrace, with a picture of Jesus going “tsk tsk” behind them.

By BiteMe

October 10, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

Alexis…..a time machine would do you well!

I don’t agree with a lot of things, must have learned to adapt, as we all have to learn to live together.

Get over yourself.

By illuminusluna

October 10, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

ok! I gotta post at least once more to rb in gwinnett. First I do not know the bible backwards and forwards but I know quite a bit because it comes in handy in these situations and it is a beautiful peice of literature and history.

That said…

The quote that all you good christians have seized upon to justify your ignorance, bigotry and intolerance is (and I am paraphrasing so cut me some slack) A man will not lay with a man and woman will not lay with a woman (even though it is totally hot) or they will burn forever and smote my eye blah blah blah. That is from the book of leveticus (I think) and if you continue on in that same book you will find instructions for determining if your house has leprosy—not someone in the house but the HOUSE itself.

How can you so strongly believe in one and not the other? Further, if you have such a strong hatred for gays then that must mean you are being just as vigliant regarding your home being free from leprosy…

The idea of your house having leprosy is naieve as I think MOST people would agree—so why then can’t you go a step further and admit that maybe this little peice of advice was written by someone who thought they were talking with GOD and was as scared of homosexulas as they were of leprosy???

Picking and choosing what to believe from the bible seems like a real half a* way to worship.

By Openminded Mom

October 10, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

What immediately strikes me about Alexis’ diatribe is how CANNED it sounds. Can you say “BRAINWASHED”????

Sad that weak-minded people such as this are content to let others do their thinking and form their opinions and belief systems for them …

P.S. Hey, superdrewcrew – according to Jay Leno, his name is “Imanutjob”! LOVE IT!!

By Cheyenne

October 10, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

To Alexis and RB from Gwinnett—amen to both of you. I applaud your boldness and God will bless you.

By dave

October 10, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this

Let me ask…what does getting married have to do with the bible or ANY religion for that matter? AS usual those that believe the myth and fictional story written thousands of years ago are a sad and weak minded bunch. Afraid of death, needed SO desperately to believe that there’s something after this life. If ONLY they would stop worrying about some make believe world after this life is over, maybe THIS planet could finally live in peace. Religion brings way more harm then good to this world. From wars, to down right bigotry and even racisim. So go ahead and read your story book…live for life based off of that fable….and just keep hating…when you die…it will be JUST like it was before you were born…blank nothingness. That’s not that scary now is it? There are no straight men or woman that will decide to all of a sudden become gay once they’re allowed to marry someone of the same sex. You’re BORN like that…or you’re not. Just ask Ted Haggard and Larry Craig. ;-)

By Craig

October 10, 2007 7:32 PM | Link to this

I gotta chime in on a couple things. First, thanks Supercrew - you sound like the real deal.

RB, most gay people that I know around Atlanta grew up in Christian homes - I would guess they’ve probably read and learned the Bible - and, in addition, folks like Alexis make sure to clobber them all the time with it. One thing you might want to do is look up Exekiel 16: 48-49 before you start talking about Sodom again. Based on that passage, today’s gay bashing Christians are the real Sodomites.