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Giuliani declines to cede Georgia to Fred Thompson

Rudy Giuliani appears intent on stealing a slice of Fred Thompson’s thunder on Friday.

The Savannah Morning News reported this weekend that Giuliani will be on the coast that day, while Thompson is raising money in Atlanta.

Giuliani’s affair is to be a town hall-style meeting at the Savannah Marriott Riverfront.

Last week, Strategic Vision, the Republican-oriented polling firm in Atlanta, reported that Giuliani was no longer the favorite among GOP voters in Georgia — that Thompson had taken his place.

We hope to bring you crosstabs on that poll later this week.

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By deegee

July 2, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

That figures. A career Washington lobbyist that plays a tough guy on a fictional TV show is the front runner in Georgia. Why would Guiliani want to throw good money after bad in the hillbilly state of Georgia? He might as well concentrate on an electorate that can read.

By Don Jones

July 2, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

The previous post is so ignorant it is not worth time.

Rudy is a good guy. He would be a good one to share the ticket with Thompson, as VP. We need tough guys for quite a while.

Don Jones MyManFred.com

By N. Otter

July 2, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Thompson/Giuliani 08 or Giuliani/Thompson 08 - All I know is anything is better that Madame President Clinton.

By Will Jones

July 2, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

“Tough guy?” Giuliani and Thompson are both Vietnam “Law School” draft-dodgers serving the Roman Anti-Christ. What’s with with you fakers? Get real.

Bush did 9-11, you think Mobbed -up, adulterer Giuliani doesn’t know it? Don’t you?

By Anonymous

July 2, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Can anybody point to some specific policy suggestions Thompson is making? Or ANY reason to consider his candidacy, other than the character he plays on TV?

By Zingo Carpane

July 2, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Is this the posting area for 7 year olds? That’s about the level of substance here.

By Jim

July 2, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Whats funny is the disdain for lobbiest, yet congress doesn’t outlaw the practice (no pun intended). The last toguh-guy actor we had for a President turned out to be one of the best. Some would argure THE BEST. I’d say Freds lobbiest hisotry gives him a heads-up on how to deal with the imbedded bureaucracy that everyone seems to hate, yet they all partake in the spoils.

By Tim

July 2, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

Etreme anything liberal/conservative have a lot of trouble thinking because they are so controlled by their emotions. For the extreme comments above, please start using your brain. Regardless of your views, you and potentially everyone else here could benefit from your thoughts if you were able to take a step back and actually challenge yourself to think and not feel. Don’t be a sheep. You owe it to yourself to be an individual. Also, whenever someone resorts to unprovoked extreme insults, it is a sign that he/she has lost that mental control.

A previous post asked about Thompson’s policy stances. Interestingly most all traditional conservative postioins he seems to take and be passionate about. As you notice too he can speak well without getting emotional. He has an 8 year senate voting record which is four times (literall) Obama’s. Within that history you will notice his votes/views are based on strict Federalism or the approach that preserves the power of the union (state power as opposed to federal power). This is especially important on moral issues or those that create a huge divide among the american people. It allows states to be guinea pigs and decisions to be made that are based on results on specualtion. This approach seems to be taken by all the top GOP candidates right now the difference though is the fact that he He has had the backbone to go it alone against his own party. That alone is important to me, he is the least politically motivated out of all the candidates from either side. Tons out there on his views. Try utube, different articles, etc. He was critcal in the Watergate scandal deliberations at a very young age(early 30’s). He also was chosen to lead the charge on investigating Bill’s corrupt practices as well as Hillary’s. You will see Hillary going after Fred. Hopefully he’ll use some of the material from the Thompson Report on these Clinton antics. He has soo much ammo on Hillary it’s sick. Happy election!

By Tim

July 2, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

See revison below: “It allows states to be guinea pigs and decisions to be made that are based on results on specualtion”…I meant *not speculation.

Link to Thompson Report

By Anonymous

July 2, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Tim. Now I can dismiss Thompson as an option with a clear conscience. I disagree with him on just about everything.

By Laura

July 2, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

I wouldn’t mind a Thompson/Giuliani ticket or a Giuliani/Thompson ticket and by the way, Rudy did a Law & Order episode, too, when he was mayor. I worry that city boy Rudy has no idea about the issues of rural and suburban America nor do I see him trying to relate to people outside of urban areas. I think he needs to try and people need to see him trying even if it is foreign to him. I’d like to see the breakdown of Republicans Who Vote by urban, suburban and rural categories, for each 08 candidate.

By Jim S.

July 2, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Nobody has mentioned the perfect ticket for the republicans to win with in ‘08’. A Fred Thompson / Condi Rice ticket would be awesome. Fred would draw the conservative base, and Condi would draw the womens and the black vote. A Thompson/Rice ticket would be a stake in the heart for the Clinton & Obama campaigns.

By Connie

July 2, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

I am a woman and I won’t vote for this ticket. What kind of idiots do you take women for? You think we vote against our best interests if the candidate is a woman? I am not black, but I suspect this will not draw the black vote either.

By Jim S.

July 2, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Connie, The over laying factor about Condi Rice, besides her being a woman, or a black woman, is the FACT that she is extremely intelligent, and could out do Rudy & McCain glued together.

By Tim

July 2, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

To anonymous. What do you disagree with him on and what are your reasons why out of curiosity (I am not suggesting nothing is out there to disagree on)and please don’t leave out the why part of the question? I haven’t seen much substance in the adversaries’ arguments yet only rage.

By Tony

July 2, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

Republicans are so desperate to raise Reagan from the dead they will take the closest resemblance in Thompson. People think just because he’s Hollywood and Republican that somehow he’s Reagan. He has not made any agenda on what he’d do as President and he went to Thatcher to seek her approval. He’s a lobbyist and his family is as well. He’s as insider as you get. Not quite Reagan and not quite the hope people think he is. It would help to actually look into him first before drinking the Kool Aid and following him without vetting.

By Winghunter

July 2, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

Well said Tim!

Fear and emotion is readily employed as some sort of limp weaponry while permanent ignorance must be their desired state of mental unpreparedness with no indications of a change in their MO from here…pathetic really.

By Anonymous

July 2, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

Tim: Sure, I’ll give some details.

—Abortion: Thompson opposes, I’m in favor of keeping it legal.

—Economy: Put tax cuts ahead of paying down the national debt. Bad idea.

—Gay marriage. He’s against it, I’m for it.

—Flag burning. He voted for the anti-flag burning amendment. No way I’d vote for that.

—Lawsuits. Supports tort reform and award caps. I’m against both. (Also voted to restrict class-action lawsuits.)

—Drugs. Voted to continue funding the fruitless drug war. No way.

—Education. Voted Yes on vouchers and abstinence-only education, voted No on decreasing class size. I strongly disagree with both of those positions.

—Energy. Voted in favor of ANWR drilling and against alternative energy development and fuel-efficiency standards. That’s simply wrong.

—Trade. Consistently voted in the unregulated free-trade direction. Limited protectionism and a regulated market are proven to work better.

—Guns. Voted against all checks and penalties. I’m pro-gun control.

—Healthcare. Voted against Canadian drug imports, allowing patients to sue HMOs, and including prescription drugs under Medicare.

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Fred_Thompson.htm

By Gus Burk

July 2, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

Rudy is not electable and most in the west want nothing to do with him. He is anti private firearms ownership, any ownership would require permiting nightmares and yearly permiting fees of up to 350 dollars for each firearm. No thanks. Most support realistic background checks but we will not vote against our civil rights. As far as a Fred and Rudy Ticket? Its a loser to Hillary. We need a clean outsider to be vice so that in 4-8 years the repubs have a younger upcoming Pres. contender with outstanding credentials. HILLARY! WHAT HAPPENED TO VINCE FOSTER?

By deegee

July 2, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

Condi Rice might be intelligent but she hasn’t had much success as Secretary of State. She has banked her diplomatic career on bringing democracy to the middle east and the Gaza withdrawal. Free elections in Gaza backfired and we know how things turned out in Iraq. We are fighting a war by proxy with Iran in Iraq and we are defenseless against them. What can she say about herself except that she isn’t Hillary?

By MrLiberty

July 2, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

Gulliani is a fascist who supports the national ID card and can’t even figure out the basics of foreign policy.

Thompson used to be a lobbiest for Jean Bertrand Aristide, the mass-murderer of Haiti. Please explian why anyone would even care that they are in this state (except that they might actually make things worse by staying).

Ron Paul’s message just needs to get out. Then the nomination will be all wrapped up. Freedom is attractive. Freedom is imperative. Ron Paul is about Freedom.

By Jim Ray

July 2, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

—Abortion: Thompson neither favored or opposed state laws, he opposed federal law. As per our constitution it is a states rights issue. His position is,Keep the feds out. Good Idea

—Economy: Implement tax cuts, use the additional revenue from a growing economy to pay down the national debt. Good Idea

—Gay marriage. He says it is a states rights issue. Keep the Feds out. Good Idea.

—Flag burning. He voted for the anti-flag burning amendment. Good idea if you belive in your country and want your children to respect it. I am neutral on it.

—Lawsuits. Supports tort reform and award caps. The trial lawers are ripping off the American public in the billions of dallars per year. Insurance companies and doctors need some protection against 10 million dollar finger losses or manufactured suits such a Edwards made himself a millionair with. Thompson wants to hold your rates down by capping outrageous settlements.

—Drugs. Voted to continue funding the drug war. Good for him. The southwest is a war zone due to battleing drug cartels. Thompson is for protecting society from these rabid wolves. Good action.

—Education. Voted Yes on vouchers and abstinence-only education. Public schools are a failure. We pump 100s of millions more dollars every year into it. This with a declining population of students and get less performance from the teachers. Fred belives that each parent/family should have the freedon of choice as to where their child is educated and by whom. Good action.

—Energy. Voted in favor of ANWR drilling and against alternative energy development and fuel-efficiency standards. ANWAR, Contrary to the media reports ANWAR contains over 16 billion barrels of oil, largest reserve in the U.S., possible nearer 100 billion barrels, USGS report. Ethanol is moving in the wrong direction as it takes more energy to make than it gives. Makes 11 lbs of waste per gallon. costs consumers 37 percent more than gasoline and causes spiraling cost hikes in animal feed and human consumeables. Testing is proving that it is bad for the environment, proving the 1970s test were correct. Thompson dislikes the Archer Daniels Midland attempt at monopolising ethanol. He is in favor of keeping the cost of autos down by keeping the current milage standards while other alternative energies are developed. .12 percent of all greenhose gases are from auto’s the Hudson institute reports

—Trade. Consistently voted in the unregulated free-trade direction. Regulated markets are only good for the multinational corporations as they supress competition trough regulatory compliance costs. Small competitors are forced out or kept out of business. Fred is pro small business and free market competition. Good action.

—Guns. Voted against all checks and penalties. He belives in our right to bear arms spelled out by our founding fathers. Good action.

—Healthcare. Voted thatCanadian pharmacies and wholesalers that provide drugs for re-importation or importation would be required to register with Health and Human Services. Individuals would be allowed to import prescription drugs from Canada. The medication would have to be for an individual use and a supply of up to 90-days. Vote to provide federal protections, such as access to specialty and emergency room care, and allow patients to sue health insurers in state and federal courts. Economic damages would not be capped, and punitive damages would be capped at $5 million.

I sure hate it when people attempt to rewrite history. Check the info out on the net. http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/FredThompsonHealth_Care.htm

By Tony

July 2, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

Then how can he be in line with the Right to Life if he believes in states’ rights? States’ rights and the NRTL don’t correspond. As to tort reform, you mean a trial lawyer like Thompson wants to shoot himself and his friends in the foot? He’s a trial lawyer himself. He’s a lobbyist. Why would he wipe out his bread and butter? He’s the behind the scenes face for McCain-Feingold. He was Howard Baker’s protege and Baker was a GOP moderate. Thompson is as insider as you get. He lives in McLean, VA which is Insider, USA.

It’s great to dig up Fred’s previous vote history. But just like with Giuliani and Romney, they all change their stripes when running for President. Odd thing is that we don’t know what Fred’s agenda is but yet people are flocking to him in droves. Lots of ignorant people out there I guess.

By Carismar

July 2, 2007 9:58 PM | Link to this

Tony, NRTL supports the constitutional right of each state to individually legislate the legality or illegality of infanticide (abortion). Supporters of Roe v Wade are the ones who have overridden the Tenth Amendment.

By Tony

July 2, 2007 10:48 PM | Link to this

So in other words the NRTL approves the states legalization of abortion? No, don’t think so. I’d love to see your reference to the NRTL. End Roe and abortion still continues. Since it will involve interstate commerce, you will still see SCOTUS decide abortion issues. So no matter what the 10th Amendment will not apply.

By Steve S

July 2, 2007 11:38 PM | Link to this

First off none of these candidates have any real concern of the common people or egalitarian of the common people. Cleary, both candidates have “speacial interest” in our american economy. Surely their friends with Washington Lobbiest.

By Carismar

July 3, 2007 1:52 AM | Link to this

Tony, murder laws are generally legislated by the states. The Roie v Wade decision was incorrect in disregarding the Tenth Amendment.

By Anonymous

July 3, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

Jim Ray: I’ve “rewritten” nothing. I simply disagree with your interpretation of Thompson’s voting record.

By Curtis

July 3, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

What’s good about Elmer Fudd, a.k.a. Fred Thompson?

He is a conservative, has a brain in between his ears, has the ability to talk in terms people can understand. He is not into taxing businesses into oblivion and not letting them be uncompetitive in the world markets, he is not too keen in having the Supreme Court do social engineering and making laws, that is the job of the legislature. Right now, a LOT of folks on both sides of the aisle are NOT satisfied too much with the President, Congress or the Supreme Court. If liberal democrats and far left socialists want to have a divisive figure, for whom about 46-50% of the voters would vote against, then so be it. If you want to wait 20-30 weeks for a medical appointment, vote for Hillary. If you want to tax the heck out of everyone and have the government spend more of your money, then vote for Hillary. If you believe it or respect the 2nd amendment at all, then do not vote for Hillary. Fred Thompson has a few warts, who does not among us? However, a conservative man who can have some degree of cooperation among the Congress and, I suspect would not handle the Cole incident quite like Bill Clinton did, then we need a steady hand in a very threatening time when terrorists will do anything, anywhere to attack us, our allies and our way of life. I strongly support the nomination of Fred Thompson and will vote against a socialist to lead our republic.

By Anonymous

July 3, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this

As soon as a socialist announces their candidacy, Curtis, would you let the rest of us know?

Because claiming that any of the current Democrats are “socialist” is so far off it’s laughable.

By fdt08.com

July 4, 2007 7:49 AM | Link to this

Fred for President bumper stickers at fdt08.com

By DC

July 4, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

Hillybilly state? Ha, be careful those hillbillys have more influence in politics then us New Yorkers have. Us city slickers think we control it all, but while we are busy making our money, those hillbillies are the ones really deciding who goes where in Washington.

By deegee

July 4, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

Think again, DC. Georgia’s Senators and Congressmen are ranked in the bottom ranks of their peers based on effectiveness in getting legislation moved through Congress. Chambliss and Isakson became even more irrelevant and ineffective last week. You might as well be sending chipmunks to Washington as the crew Georgia is electing. BTW, it’s “We New Yorkers” and “We city slickers”, not “Us New Yorkers” and “Us city slickers”, you fake city slicker.

By Drew

July 4, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

The thing that to me makes Thompson ideal is that, even as all the buildup to his announcement has been going on, he has not really made a lot of effort towards the presidency. In fact, the best statement he ever made was something to the effect of, “When you haven’t wanted to be President your whole life and it has never been a goal, it is easy to take your time deciding if you are going to run.”

In truth, his story is one that is classic to the American ideal: a boy growing up in a small town who worked his way through college and rose up to become a candidate for the Presidency. It is interesting that he has played such key roles as an outsider to Washington - though he did help lobby for those things he believed in, and helped bring down not only a corrupt Presidency (Nixon) but a corrupt govenor in his own state (TN) and both were of his own party! I’ll be honest - I think that he is the most electable of those who are running or could potentially run - and I think the amount of dirt you are going to find on him won’t be anything compared to the other condidates. The best they’re going to get is his “young” wife - though she was 35 when he married her (he was 60).

If you all want to hear his views on things - check out the Fred Thompson Report on ABC News, or download and listen to it (for free) through the iTunes Store. Also, check out the book, “The Fred Factor.”

If you are an Amercan who believes in using your brain and aren’t a brainwashed socialist/commie, and believe in protecting our rights from Terrorists while preserving the rights of individuals and the states in making decisions (and not the Feds), Fred Thompson is the man of the hour for you.

By Victoria

July 4, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

I just read a letter written slamming Fred. Actually I am a registered Democrat but people with views like I just read is why Democrats are loosing voters quickly.
ABORTION I SHOULD not have to PAY for it. Federal dollars should not pay for abortion. Since I do not believe in abortion & am smart enough to use birth control which is available to ALL women why should I pay for some woman who does not accept responsibility for her own choices.
Gun Control-if I choose to own a gun that is my business it is guaranteed me as an American-my family has fought in every war to ensure I keep these rights. Gay Marriage- Pardon me the majority of Americans claim to be Christians-why should a small minority run the majority-clearly if you believe in God you believe that gay marriage as well as homosexuality in general is wrong.

Why can’t people look around? Get a clue. 25 years ago you could walk down the street in most major cities-which you can NOT now. Now let’s look at what has changed-let me see in 25 years-we did away with PRAYER in the schools, we did away with starting day in school with Pledge to the Flag-funny you people want to benefits but not the responsibilities of freedom, we made abortion legal, we opened our borders & let even more illegal aliens in, we have compromised American values to be “politically correct”, we have had affirmative action-hired incompetent people-oh but they were the right color or sex, we have encouraged drinking, drugging & any form of sex-general morals disappeared-babies out of wedlock & abortions no longer carried any shame. Yes America has come a long way in 25 years.
And yes I am from the SOUTH, now call me a hillbilly again…this COUNTRY was basically founded & run for years by Southerners. Some of the most important statemen in America were southern. Obviously they must forget to teach history where you are at. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, James Madison, Francis Marion, James Monroe, John Randolph, etc I could go on & on but no point to it. The south by no means is defenseless nor are we ignorant. Some of the best colleges in the US are in the South-even back in the 1700s people sent their sons to the south to be educated. Do not confuse the word hillbilly with southern-that just shows your ignorance.

 

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