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By Craig

June 13, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Senator Rogers, from my district, has all the skills needed to go far in Georgia politics. He’s good at scapegoating people, he has no qualms about ignoring the teachings of his faith, he loves to throw around terms - like “multinational corporations” - that have nothing to do with the issues at hand, and he loves to hear himself talk.

Mark my words, he has a bright future in Georgia politics.

By Reliable source close to the State GOP.

June 13, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

State Sen. Ross Tolleson (R) Perry, Mitch Seabaugh (R) Sharpsburg, Nancy Schaeffer (R) Turnersville, & Chip Rogers (R) Woodstock are looking at possibly challenging Chambliss if it’s in the best interest of the GOP.

By Tom Jones

June 13, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

“State Sen. Ross Tolleson (R) Perry, Mitch Seabaugh (R) Sharpsburg, Nancy Schaeffer (R) Turnersville, & Chip Rogers (R) Woodstock are looking at possibly challenging Chambliss if it’s in the best interest of the GOP.”

According to?

By Will Jones

June 13, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

Last year, during the Georgia General Assembly’s debate on illegal immigration, I called and spoke with Chip Rogers about the Roman Catholic church’s published stratagem to promote illegal immigration, naturalization and voter registration to take over the United States, “to construct the Kingdom of God.” He sounded very interested in seeing my copy of Rome’s “National Pastoral Plan for Hispanic Ministry,” and told me his secretary would call the next morning to set up a meeting. That call never came, and the “Rogers” I’ve known in my life are all Roman Catholics, like Tony Snow and his lie that “this is not an invasion for conquest.”

Those who would be righteous Americans must return to our Whig roots. Whig means “anti-Roman Catholic,” and all who would be good Americans, of every background and inheritance, must recognize that Rome, as Our Founder Thomas Jefferson told us, is, in fact, the “real Anti-Christ.” We must all “come out of Babylon,” and its historic pedophile priesthood.

Besides promoting Vietnam with their banker David Rockefeller, after their agents, including Nixon and GHW Bush, in the Knight of Malta-led, and founded, CIA had murdered President Kennedy to keep us in their colonial fiefdom; besides the illegal funding of the Contras to bolster the latifundistas of Central America; besides the fact that Knight of Malta Prescott Bush was the money conduit behind the “Rockefeller of Germany,” papal baron and Knight of Malta Fritz Thyssen…we must now arise and meet this challenge now confronting us.

Are Americans no longer willing to work, or have we developed a greedy caste of plutocrats and wannabes unwilling to pay a fair wage? Is their profit margin not supplemented greatly enough by the tax legislation their corrupt politicians sell them for campaign contributions/bribes?

The wall/fence must be built to control the border. This treason by Rome’s Fifth Column to promote illegal immigration to destroy the Middle Class on behalf of Roman hegemony must be stopped. Rome, America’s largest property owner after the Federal Gov’t, must be expropriated and deported as punishment for their treason. Their false-elite - led by the Rockefeller Bush Nixon faction - must be properly punished as well: they funded Hitler, killed Kennedy and King, and have committed 9-11 in service to Roman Catholic BIG OIL.

There is only one Truth.

By gtfan

June 13, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Chambliss and Isakson might as well try to push it threw b/c they’re getting thrown out come election time.

By zombieboy

June 13, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Chambliss and Isakson are toast come re-election time.

Sad to say that, but there it is.

This is the only subject that I have opposed them, but it was hard to take them onstage with TED KENNEDY grinning like Cheshire cats….I will never be able to wipe that image from my mind.

Shame on them.

By Chuck

June 13, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

I’d say we better call Isakson and Chambliss and e-mail them NO AMNESTY. El Presidente Jorge Bush is about to end the United States. Has anyone figured out this amnesty will pardon foreign illegal alien felons (childmolestors, murderers, rapists, taxcheats, bankrobbers, and so-on) yet would not even extend that same pardon to U.S. citizens!!! Impeach this imperious angent of Mexico now!!!

By Stephanie

June 13, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

GO Chip. Yes, I would support you Chip Rogers to replace Saxby. There is a lot more to quality of life than cheap labor that help corporations and rapes the American taxpayer to support the illegal alien social costs. Our ecomony has grown by the massive influx of the third world creating the need for more goods and services, not creating jobs through innovation. All we have done is grow debt while importing disease.

By justin

June 13, 2007 7:51 PM | Link to this

Our Senators show a lot of fortitude in trying to get a decent immigration bill passed and we have a bunch of neanderthals wanting to keep status quo? Go figure.

By kathleen

June 14, 2007 4:50 AM | Link to this

The comments that I have read on the subject of the senators chambliss and isakssen supporting the amnesty bill show how small the minds must be of the individuals writing these blogs. If we all of the immigrants were sent back to their country who are doing the jobs that none of the “too good for hard labor” americans are interested in doing anyway we would be left with no one to do these jobs, not to mention the fact if the immigrants left america it would be devastating to our economy, and if that is not enough, why is the unemployment rate so low if they are taking jobs from americans? What is to complain about? People only know a bit of the situation and are not looking at the big picture and aware of all facts involved in order to base their opinion on.

By Carson

June 14, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

Ted Kennedy was a strong supporter of the 1965 Hart-Celler Act signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson which dramatically changed US immigration policy.

This is what Ted Kennedy said about the 1965 bill.

“The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.”

Kennedy is now the chair of the United States Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship, and remains a strong advocate for immigrants, both documented and undocumented

About the same time there wasn’t enough room for citizens to have children.

The Unacknowledged Holocaust

Back in the 60’s the Federal Government came into the public schools and brainwashed us as little children with the message that the children we were about to have were unwanted because the population was rising so fast. They launched a program called Family Planning. They pushed birth control pills. I think you and I now both know that you only have to trick people for their few child bearing years and there is no going back.

Many of us never had a say.

I am the result of two living cells. One from each of my parents. They are the result of two living cells, one from each of their parents. I wasn’t just born. I am a continuation of life. I am a living thing that reaches back into time perhaps 400 million years and the result of billions of joining of pairs of cells. It is possible that if you were to follow my cells back to my parent’s cells and beyond that my family tree touches every living thing here on earth. That is if we limit ourselves to believing life was created here on earth. If it rained down from the immensity of the universe it could reach back into that immensity of time and space, and who knows what relationships and who knows what species.

At least until I came up against the Federal Government and their plan to control the population.

I have seen the Federal Government do little else to control the population.

By Sam

June 16, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Comments from illegals all say the same thing. “We hold jobs that no one wants”. Rubbish!!! They hold jobs that no one wants because the felon employers are paying way below minimum wage. This is all about very cheap labor and legalizing illegals to make more liberal voters, period!!!

I heard a senator comment that these “immigrant citizens” (WHAT?) are putting back into our country through the purchases from their salaries. What about all the money they are wiring home to be spent in Mexico’s economy, not ours?? Seems to me what they spend here is very little compared to what they draw out. If you don’t believe me, have a talk with any social services agency and especially small town hospitals that are very close to collapse due to the burden of having to treat “ILLEGALS” for even minor ailments due to the lack of insurance. They know they can go to immergency rooms and not have to pay for treatment for so much as a common cold!!”** If this continues, soon US citizens will be doing without because these services will be gone due to the leeching from these “ILLEGALS”!

The following is a response I sent to Chambliss when he so courteously sent me a global message about his stance on the “ILLEGAL” immigration bill. My comments are in bold. I hope you agree with me and will continue to respond to your senators to let them know that we are wise to this and will remember them at the polls. My motto this year is “NO VOTE FOR INCUMBANTS!”

My email to our Senator:

Senator Chambliss,

I appreciate this message even though I know it is sent as a global response to my emails sent to you about the “ILLEGAL” immigration bill S.1348 that was before the Senate. I was very, very glad to see that you voted not to allow the cloture of the bill when senator Reid called for the vote.

In response to your email, I do encourage you to continue to urge the President to call for an emergency supplemental bill to fund the border initiatives but I would in no way consider it to be part of the legislation currently tabled in congress. There must be a separate bill pertaining solely to the building of fences and funding to hire enough border patrol to enforce the laws of this country.

Even though there were some good amendments to this bill, we as voters still consider S. 1348 as it stands, a dead horse and we will fight S. 1348 all the way to the polls if it is resurrected. We as citizens of the United States of America deserve better than this bill. It has so many flaws in its present form that it is unacceptable.

There are at least 20 loopholes contained in this bill that renders it totally useless and we are watching this bill very carefully. We pledge to you, if the loopholes in this bill, amnesty in any fashion to illegals and amnesty to employers that broke the law, are brought back and made law, we will work day and night to defeat every senator that votes for it. I have included a copy of these loopholes (Not included in these comments but I encourage you to see Senator Sessions site to view them) at the end of this letter, as they were presented to me. I encourage everyone to read them and see that this bill is a travesty in its inception and cannot be allowed to become law.

With that said, let me express just how my family and friends feel about illegal immigration. It is unacceptable, period!!! This country got us into this mess and we expect our government to get us out of it by enforcing laws that already exist. We do not need new laws to “fix this problem”! We already have them and we expect them to be enforced. No negotiating. A bill can be formulated later to make sure this abomination does not occur in our great nation again but now we have to get the illegals out and stop them from re-entering our country illegally. We know at this point in our long and glorious history, that our sovereignty is at stake and we have to act now, but act responsibly. Proceed in the right order (border security first) to make our nation secure and remove those that have come here to challenge our laws, our citizenship and our way of life.

We understand that rounding up 12+ million illegal trespassers(felons) and criminals (felons), not immigrant citizens as senator Reid would call them, is a monumental task but it is not impossible. Funding for the ICE and INS to increase their numbers will be a good start. Funding and allowing state and county law enforcement officers to assist the ICE and INS in their inspections of corrupt business owners (felons) facilities to arrest all illegals and those that would hire them, is another good start.

When captured, economical state-holding facilities to house them, in tents if need be, can be constructed cheaply and used until which time the INS can transport them back across the border to “their” country. Our troops in Iraq live in tents, so can criminals!! The sheriff in Arizona is getting the job done with tents and all the other states agencies can too!!! If the senate thinks there aren’t any funds for this project, take the money from supplemental projects (pork)to the tune of billions of dollars that are tacked on to all bills and get the job done. Yes, we know about all the pork barrel billions that are peeled off of legitimate bills each year and we believe that money could be better spend with this project. After all, it’s our money, not the governments, so use it the way we want it used. We don’t “expect” it to be done, let us say….* We Demand It!!*

Senator Chambliss, we aren’t stupid! We have been told by the Senate that rounding up that many people is an impossible task. Well, let us say, we have to start somewhere to get these illegals out of our country and right here and now is the time and place to start. If we don’t, it’ll never get done, just like the enforcement of the borders that was law put into place in 1986. If you never start plowing, you’ll never get the crop planted.

Recently, you and Senator Isakson made a pledge to us (which I have commented on in the text) and I am including it in this letter as I always send courtesy copies of my correspondence to you, to my family and my friends. I was encouraged by your pledge and pray that you are sincere about it. There are to many hard working Americans that are out of work since our government came up with NAFTA and we are confident they can and will love to have jobs the illegals have taken away from them. We do not accept false claims that illegals take jobs citizens will not. That has already been proven false and we will not fall for that one again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice….need I say more!! Illegals are all about cheap labor and votes, that is all and it has nothing to do with not being able to get the workers. Payment in cash bypasses payment into Social Security, taxes, etc. and we know that is what is happening as we live in the Vidalia onion belt. Since NAFTA, the workers are there even though they can’t work as cheaply as the illegals. Even though our government tells us NAFTA is making merchandise cheaper, we know better. Have you ever had to buy groceries for a family of four and spend $200 (wk)from a $350 (wk) salary?? And then, spend the rest for day care just so two in the family can hold down a job? The other check goes for rent, gas to get to work, taxes, etc. We do not live with five families in one house. Law mandates an employee receive minimum wage not less, as the illegals will work for. The Law is the Law!! Give legal citizens a chance, give our nation a chance to regain its sovereignty and help us to get back the feeling that our government is once again a government of the people, by the people and for the people! Make a commitment that shows you work for us, not us working for you.

Very Sincerely, Sam Citizen of Central Georgia Army Veteran, Citizen & above all, an AMERICAN

Statements from Chambliss & Isakson:

WASHINGTON - The United States Senate is debating the most critical domestic issue facing our nation: illegal immigration. Georgians have sent the message loud and clear that they want us to address this problem immediately with solutions that truly secure our borders without granting amnesty or a new pathway to citizenship to the millions who have broken our laws.

That is exactly what we are trying to do.

Today, our border is an open sieve and our law enforcement personnel have their hands tied. Some 12 to 20 million immigrants have been allowed to enter this country illegally and to remain here indefinitely. They work tax-free, get free health care in our emergency rooms and educate their children for free in our schools.

This is amnesty, and it must be stopped. (100%)

We are seeking to ensure that any reform Congress enacts will truly secure our borders first before any reform of our temporary worker system takes place. If you grant legal status to those here illegally without first securing the border, millions more will flood into our country illegally. That’s exactly what happened with the flawed immigration law that was passed in 1986, and our country has been paying the price ever since. (Very soon we will be seeing more illegals crossing if the border is not secured now at all costs, by more law enforcement and more military)

We are seeking to ensure that any reform ends our current system of amnesty and prohibits a new pathway for U.S. citizenship or for permanent residency status for those here illegally. Illegal immigrants must come forward, plead guilty and pay a fine for having broken our laws. Illegal immigrants must return home and get at the back of the line to begin the lengthy process of applying for citizenship, just as everyone must do now. (I don’t like the use of the word “NEW” that you keep using. It implies that you accept the old version of amnesty in the 1986 bill which brought us to this situation in the first place.)

We are seeking to ensure that any reform ends the practice of “chain migration,” where nearly two-thirds of green cards now are awarded to relatives of those who are already here. Green cards should be issued on a merit system that measures the contributions a potential green card holder would bring to the United States. We must have a better balance between the need for family connections versus the critical economic needs of our country. (There are no critical economic needs since NAFTA, the worker are there if the employers will abide by the law and pay at least minimum wage as mandated by law.)

We are seeking to ensure that any reform includes a bio-metrically secure identification program that would allow employers for the first time to instantly verify whether an immigrant is legal before they are hired. Employers today must guess whether documentation provided by immigrants is fraudulent or not. A bio-metrically secure ID would replace this guessing game with instantaneous certainty, and we could then hold employers accountable with much stricter fines for hiring illegal workers. (Stricter fines and jail time. A felon is a felon or are we going to grant amnesty to all felons now??)

We believe that “temporary” must mean temporary in any new reform. Temporary workers must go home at the end of their temporary work period and they must be barred from eligibility for benefits afforded to citizens or legal permanent residents, such as welfare benefits, Social Security benefits or food stamp benefits. (To include Health Care. Immigrant workers should have to have health coverage carried by themselves or by their employer and pay all taxes such as school taxes just as US citizens have to do. Work peroids for legal immigrants should not exceed one year, with a maximum number of 200,000 workers, so others that want to come and work get a chance.)

And we are seeking to ensure that any reform recognizes English as the common language of the United States. Everyone who enjoys the privilege of living in the United States legally should know and speak our language at a proficient level. (and English must be spoken in public based on National Security if need be. We cannot be vigilant of our surroundings from terrorism if we do not know what is being said around us. It is also a matter of courtesy. A true American will wish to speak the language of our nation.)

Last year, a Republican-led Senate easily passed a bill to grant legal status to illegal immigrants without securing our nation’s borders. We voted against that bill because it would have guaranteed a repeat of 1986, when Congress granted amnesty to 3 million illegal immigrants but failed to secure the border. (Senators are suppose to be highly educated representative that we send to Washington to ensure our tranquility and sovereignty, so how could such educated men and women let something like this pass into law. How could you have let this illegal situation happen to our country? Even us poor uneducated voters can recognize the smell of bull when we see it, so what happened?? Have a lapse??)

We demanded to have a seat at the table in drafting this year’s immigration reform legislation to ensure that the new Democratic-controlled Congress wouldn’t repeat last year’s bill or the failed 1986 Act. We could have chosen to sit on the sidelines and simply complain about the other party, but instead we have fought hard in a difficult political environment to ensure that the principles of our constituents in Georgia are included. (How did you find out what our principles are? Apparently, our principles about homeland security for our fmailies, counties, states and country are different than those of our “elected” senators. We deserve better than this.)

While we will reserve judgment on the final bill until the debate is complete, the proposal that was brought to the Senate floor is far, far better than the bill passed by the Senate last year. (A bill that just says get them out of our country would be better than that bill) It would secure our borders first. It would end amnesty (Not as we see it). It contains no new pathway to citizenship (but doesn’t it contain the same pathway as the 1986 bill?? so yes it contains no “new” pathway but does grant amnesty just like the old bill. Don’t try to fool us with word games!!) and would force illegal immigrants to go home before they could be eligible for a green card or for citizenship. It would end chain migration. It would give employers a fraud-proof system to verify whether workers are legal. It would force immigrants to learn English. (What about fines for the employers that have already committed a felony?? Should they be grant immunity for committing a felony or should we let all felons out of jail also?? There is no ignorance here, they know they have broken the law!)

These are the kind of conservative Georgia principles that we brought to the table and fought for. These are the principles that we will always honor and uphold.