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By mtgalisa

March 9, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Will some on please take the drugs out of that man’s hand. That is insanity.

By Keith

March 9, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Man! That’s Stupid On Steroids!

Wait, I forgot that our armed forces are automatically assigned a percentage of our youth. I was thinking they competed with the private sector and engaging in stupid wars was working against recruitment.

By Joe D.

March 9, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

This is a perfect statement by someone who has long since lost relevance with the majority of Americans that are caring, compassionate citizens. This kind of rhetoric is best suited for the Limbaughs, Coulters and their ilk.

By KR

March 9, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

“If those 45 million children had lived, today they would be defending our country, they would be filling our jobs, they would be paying into Social Security,” the former Georgia governor said. - Zell Miller

Or they might be on welfare, pulling out more resources and being a bigger drain on society than the Iraq war.

Plus, exactly which jobs would they be filling? The ones that were sent overseas in the interest of corporate efficiency?

Miller long ago lost any ability to be rational; please don’t give him any more air time.

By Annoyed with Politicians

March 9, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

You have got to be kidding me!! Our country is suffering because we let women have abortions. How about the fact that Congress and the government don’t care about the soliders, can you say Walter Reed. The government has short changed our military personal for years! My father served this country for 25 years, and I have had to deal with military doctors. They don’t know anything. “How can an nation under God allow this?” What about in India where they allow girl babies to be drowned? What about in China where you can only have one child? This is ridiculous! This is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, yes we are not liked in the world right now, but for goodness sakes we should be allowed to have the choice to do what we like to our bodies without the government critizing our every move. As for the immigration issues, that has nothing to do with abortion.

Zen, I understand that you are a war veteran, and I thank you for your service. However, you really need to get with the issues and quit making excuses about Social Security. Fact is that Social Security is just not going to survive. Do something about it!

By Annoyed with Politicians

March 9, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

I apologize…I ment Zell.

By catlady

March 9, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Without those abortions, there would have been more folks in jail, dropping out, having illegitate babies, and on welfare, since unwanted children=adults with problems, many times. I’d LOVE to hear how abortions cause illegal immigration….

By Kathleen

March 9, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

What happened to Zell Miller?? He needs to have a CT scan of his brain. This is not the same man who was our Govenor.

By harold

March 9, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

harold says zell is just playing on an old racist saying that abortion was responsible for the big drop in the crime rate about 16 years after abortion became protected free speech because blacks started having abortions and suddenly about 16 years later there were no more criminals. this statement certainly reveals what sort of racist zell is doesnt it. zell you bigoted racist! why dont you puke three times and die.

By Julie

March 9, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

zell, get real. I love you, but I think you have lost your mind!

By renap

March 9, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

By mtgalisa Take the drugs aways from him? I think the poor crazy guy needs some drugs. He’s been talking like a crazy person for years. When you see him live, he looks even crazier than he speaks!

Maybe he should try pushing harder for PeachCare for kids.

By MD native

March 9, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

How nice of Miller to assume that all of these aborted children would be productive members of society, raised in a caring environment and be able to obtain education to support themselves. Or to assume they’d be willing to fight in war such as the current one. Save the babies, but screw the kids when they actually need caring later on. Don’t do anything to decrease the need for abortion in the first place through - GOD FORBID - birth control. Finally, if we are just going to send these “saved babies” off to war to be killed, I don’t see the point of having them in the first place. Mr. Miller is entitled to his opinion, just as I am entitled to mine. To him I say, if you are against abortion don’t impregnate a woman. As for the rest of us, perhaps you should let each of us make our own decisions since this is the land of the free…..

By Phil

March 9, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Thank you Senator Miller for speaking up on abortion. This country is in such decline because of all the murders by women having abortions. It is a crime to abuse an animal and legal to kill and unborn BABY! Tell me what is wrong with that picture! I am pro birthday meaning everyone deserves a birthday.

By Tony

March 9, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Let me get this straight. Illegals were a major problem just 10 years after Roe v. Wade but yet abortion has something to do with the fact Americans have no qualms about breaking the law and paying illegals straight cash? And military manpower shortage? Perhaps that is due to a foreign policy that involves getting us in wars that are unnecessary. Social Security crisis? Perhaps Zell’s many years service to a party that chose to protect it rather than either end it like is should have OR repaired it to compensate for economic crises or other factors.

I am probably as pro-life as him but blaming abortion for these ills is a huge stretch. His own support for this war, this President, and a party in previous years is what has caused the problems he has listed.

If he is teaching this then someone needs to request a refund.

By famucancer

March 9, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Wow…..watching Zell in these first years of Dementia is really heartbreaking.

By Alan

March 9, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Is this the same guy that I voted for multiple times, or has someone been putting koo-koo juice in his well up in Young Harris? I guess in one sense, with more people, there would have been more mental health professionals to treal Zell.

By jbean

March 9, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

Ok, Zell has lost his mind!!! Where did he come up with that one?? Doesn’t he understand that more people would cause MORE problems (look at China and Japan, who have a LAW that limits the numbr of children a couple CAN have). We would be in worse condition than we are now. If this is his Pro-life stance, he needs a better argument.

I guess those women who DECIDE not to have children (never been pregnant, never had abortions)are part of the shortage problem too.

By Susan M.

March 9, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

According to Freakonomics authors, who have considerably more education than Zell, abortions have caused a decrease in crime, as unwanted babies have not been born to negligent parents..

I have yet to see the study proving Zells claims.. Zell, having been born into a military family that served proudly, I will do everything in my power to see to it that my two boys never ever enlist and give their lives over to an ignorant Commander in Chief that will endanger their lives without just cause. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and their are currently more terrorists that want Americans dead in Korea. Zell.. why don’t you go and fight if you feel so strongly about it. You really started something wonderful with HOPE for our children and you will always have that legacy.. Leave good alone and stop pooping all over yourself.

By Sara

March 9, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Sure – those 45 million children, if they had lived, would have absolutely persevered while growing up with parents who never wanted them or who couldn’t afford to raise them. Without a doubt, all 45 million would have survived foster care systems, stayed off drugs, and mentally well enough to be able to hold down jobs, pay social security, and defend our country. Sure…. that’s exactly what would have happened without abortion…..THIS HAS TO BE THE SINGLE MOST IGGNORANT VIEWPOINT EVER!!!

By Susan M.

March 9, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Why don’t all of you baby loving anti abortionists go out an give all the ones without homes a great loving place to live? Until the ones we currently have are all under loving roofs, then shut up!

By CA

March 9, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Zell, shhhh please…

By Cletus Snow

March 9, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Zell Miller is a good man and has done great things for our state,AS much as I disagree with abortion, I can’t see the connection with any of the things mentioned.It’s true there would have been 45 million more people to serve in the military, pay Soc Sec,ect but who can say they might have all been crackheads or child molesters or some other non productive food stamp and welfare recipiants,they might have been been murderers like the 45 million baby killers that he mentioned.

By Veronique

March 9, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Zell Miller lost his mind long ago. The first sign was that he started siding with the GOP. He is totally off his rocker, but this latest bit is crazy stupid, even by his standards.

By RL

March 9, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

Zig Zag Zell speaks and I hear bla…bla…bla…bla…bla…bla or something like Charlie Brown’s mother.

Crawl back into your hole Zig Zag.

By Howard Smith

March 9, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Zell Miller should be seen and not heard. He is a nut case.

By Sheela

March 9, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

I am so sick of the right wing sobbing about abortion!! Give me a break!! You all condemn women as w******* when they have babies out of wedlock and then condemn them as murderers when they have abortion. You don’t want welfare or any other government funded programs for the poor but you want every poor unfortunate woman who finds herself pregnant to have to go through with it. Totally irrational and very poorly thought out philosophy of living. A 10 week old zygote is not a baby you morons! If it is then why don’t your churches hold funerals for miscarriages? Why no grave or grave stone for an early miscarriage? Hypocrites! Stop romanticizing a fertilized egg. It’s all about controlling women.

By Bridget

March 9, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

catlady: So should we kill “adults with problems”? I mean if it is ok to kill them before they are born, then why not after they are adults? Also, as stated in one of the article’s quotes “they would be filling our jobs” is how it would prevent illegals.

harold: if he was being racist, he would be pro-abortion; then, more minorities would be killed. so if you are pro-abortion you are a racist. Zell is anti-abortion therefore he’s ok with more minority children.

In general, I have found that if I do not want a child and I do not have sex I do not have an unwanted pregnancy. If you say, “What about rape?”, fine, how about illegalizing abortion with an exceptions for rape and life of the mother only?

By Payton

March 9, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

Zell is crazy but he is right about one part… Most abortions are obtained by poor people and the US military is largely made up of poor people, so if there had been less abortions there may have been more poor men and women available to go die in Bush’s war. Good thinking, Zell. I say we start breeding poor folks just for the purpose of fighting wars! Orwell himself could not have come up with a better plan in his worst nightmare. Bravo!

By Bryan Ford

March 9, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

I am a native Georgian, and I honestly believe that Zell Miller was the best governor that Georgia has ever had! WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HIM???? Abortion linked to illegal immigration? Excuse me. I am sorry but I don’t even see a connection at all. Zell, we have too many babies and children now that they can’t even all be adopted. It is sad to see someone such as Zell Miller, make irrational statements such as this!

By Froggy

March 9, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

As a sidebar to Mr. Miller’s comments - you should read Chapter 4 of the book Freakonomics. In that chapter, the authors suggest that the institution of Roe v. Wade in 1973 was the most significant factor to the reduction in crime in the 1990’s. Their theory is that many children with a high likelihood of becoming criminals were not born. Whether you agree with their theory or not, at least they supported their question with facts and evidence. Mr. Miller just wants to make bellicose statements.

By Constance A Kruger

March 9, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

Zell’s mother along with Bargara Bush is one who should have had a abortion.

By Anais

March 9, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

OMG. The excuses people come up with. They just never end. I am so tired of people: A-pointing fingers instead of accepting responsibililty and B-ignoring the facts.

I’m with a lot of you guys…I liked Zell- but come on!

By Sarah

March 9, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

Zell…bless your heart.

Now first things first. I hear tell that the military has relaxed its policy on age restrictions. Weren’t you a Marine? Then by god man! Why are you still here when you are so desperately needed in Iraq?

Now, when access to quality birth control is not restricted by the Nazis - I mean Republicans - in charge right now, we see that abortion rates decrease. Also, abortion rates go down when young people are given quality sex education in schools. But then again, we can’t have that according to the Nazis in charge - I mean Republicans - because some poor impressionable youngster will take it as a license to go crazy and fornicate! Dear Lord!

Zell, honey. Maybe none of your people will tell you this, but I will: you are batshit crazy. Please shut up and stop embarrassing this state.

By Yvette

March 9, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Looks like someone has been nipping on a bottle of “Crazy” again! Oh yeah, and all of you anti-abortion supporters,how about staying out of MY uterus.

By RB

March 9, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Zell may have been a great person once, but has become a bitter, narrow-minded buffoon. Abortion may not be the answer for everyone, but it should available for those who wish to choose it. We should pass a law banning abortion ONLY if every person who is opposed to it will agree to take one of those unwanted children to raise as their own. There should be a list of millions to choose from, so all the hospitals should do is work their way down the list as a new child is born without parents who are able to raise them with quality. My guess is the so called Pro-life advocates would not vote for such a measure.

By joe

March 9, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Zell is just an inconsequential washed-up has-been who literally preaches to choirs. No one cares what he says; do to him what you did to Barr, stop giving him any face time in the media. Ignore him. The guy’s off his rocker. He needs his daily meds and to be kept in his assisted living center where he can argue with his imaginary friends all day.

By drewspeakstruth

March 9, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Zell Miller is a complete Looney Tune, no doubt the victim of too much corn whiskey and the ill effects of in-breeding. Please stop giving him ink.

By shishlik

March 9, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

That may be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Time to move on

By Marvin

March 9, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Zig Zag has always been crazy, but he is now in serious need of professional help. He should be committed before he hurts someone.

By lwa

March 9, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

how has abortion contributed to the flow of illegal immigrants? I don’t see the connection?

By Donna P.

March 9, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

45 Million dead babies including one of my siblings because my mom was an idiot in 1972 and didn’t use birth control. That is incredible! It is disgusting how Americans don’t value life and don’t take responsibility for themselves by using BIRTH CONTROL before they have sex. I agree women have the right to do what they want with their bodies and have an abortion if they want to but it is murder. We have to stop sugar coating abortion.

By Sue

March 9, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

I think Zell must have been sitting on his porch in Young Harris and rocked off the edge and hit his head.

By Stewart

March 9, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Let me as you folks this question. Why is it that our legal system charges someone who murders a pregnant mom with double homicide? Use your logic. This unborn fetus is a human being if the mother wants to keep the baby, but not if the mother chooses to have an abortion. Murder is murder. Keep your legs closed ladies are use birth control if you don’t want to have kids.

By festus

March 9, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

And how many of those kids would be denied Peachcare, Senator?

By Marvin

March 9, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Annoyed, sorry to have to inform you that Zell is NOT a war veteran. He was a sportswriter during the majority of his time in the Marine Corps, a fact you will not see in the “Mainstream Press.”

By Cruzin

March 9, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

Why does Zell think we are a nation under God? We have a high divorce rate, drug use is out of control, we allow illegals to come here, and the government is working towards a socialist platform. It’s time to wake up and smell the coffee!

By Food Stamper worker

March 9, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Cletus,

Not everyone who is receiving Food Stamps or cash assistance are non productive citizens in today’s society. Most would rather be working making an honest living to support their families.

By Stewart

March 9, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Maybe Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman put their country before their party and their personal ambitions.

By JohnM

March 9, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

I think we’ve reached the point where Zell just needs to shut up and go away. I used to like this guy, but he HAS turned into a bitter old buffoon. Zell, you have become an embarassment to this fomerly great state - it’s time to go retire to the rocking chair of your cabin in Young Harris. And please, stay the h*ll away from Atlanta - we don’t want you here.

By lwa

March 9, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

Brieget -

I would beg to say that more minorities aren’t being killed by abortion, it is white children. Minorities can’t afford it, don’t have anyone to borrow the money from. Also, most minorities aren’t “ashamed” nor consider it taboo to have a baby out of wed-lock.

By Mama

March 9, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

It is so nice to know that every single time Bridget has sex in her entire life that she has wanted a baby. That is the only logical follow up to her statement that she has found, in the course of her life, that if she does not want a baby that she does not have sex. Interesting. Good for you, Bridget. And don’t come back and say you use birth control because that sometimes fails, you know. Also, how is a woman to prove that she was raped if she wants an abortion? It can take years to prove rape if you go through due process of law? Nice theory, but it does not work.

By sue sullivan

March 9, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

Zell needs to be medicated and kept at home. His psychosis is embarrassing to Georgians and contributes to the myth that southerners are ignorant crackers.

By Stacy

March 9, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Hey Stewart, women don’t make babies by themselves! And if a woman feels the need to have an abortion it is usually because she has been totally let down by the father of the unborn child. Either he has abandoned her, denied her or is a terrible provider. So how about admonishing the worthless men of our society who knock-up-and-run rather than singling out the women.

By Johnny Boy Says

March 9, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Not a truer statemant spoken. Sometimes it is tought to speak the truth when so many will distort it, discount it and run and hide form it’s factual basis. God bless you, Zell Miller !!

By Lisa

March 9, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

I once escorted a friend to have an abortion. We were the only white chicks in that very crowded waiting room.

By RB

March 9, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

So Stewart…are you opposed to the death penalty? Murder is murder….Please sign the list of folks accepting adoptable children as you so loudly object to a woman’s right to choose.

By Mara

March 9, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Zell….here’s your sign.

(ref: Jeff Foxworthy, fellow Georgian)

By DS

March 9, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Stewart - The reason that it’s a double homicide is because legislators made feticide a crime as a way of pushing forward “pro-life” laws in the eventual hope to outlaw abortions.

I agree that Zell was a great governor, and he was even a decent senator, but since he left Washington he’s gone off the deep end.

By anonymous

March 9, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

How was this man ever a Democrat? Did he have a serious head injury? That is the only thing I can think of that would explain his seemingly endless downward spiral into right-wing zealotry.

By harold

March 9, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

prasie be to jesus that zell miller has stepped up to fill the shoes of the late strom thurmond

By GrantParkGuy

March 9, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

I agree with the comment above about him not being the same man as he was when he was our Governor. I knew Zell personally back then. I worked for him. He was a compassionate, articulate and intelligent man. He was wonderful to work with.

The man we see today just isn’t the same person. And, that is very sad.

• W.

By Sarah

March 9, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Donna P. - you throw out the term BIRTH CONTROL like it’s so simple these days. Do you have any idea just how difficult this regime has made it to get birth control in this state and country now? Pretty damned difficult. Pharmacists can stand there and flat out tell a woman that they refuse to do their job and fill a prescription and the Republican legislature says that fine.

Wake up you ignorant idiot. If you don’t want an abortion, then don’t get one, but don’t you dare try to tell other women what to do with their lives.

I’ll bet that your mother was able to actually feed and clothe you because she didn’t have too many mouths to feed in 1972. Don’t take your family issues out on the rest of us!

By Varga

March 9, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Stewart: That is precisely why many folks have opposed laws charging someone double for murdering a pregnant woman. We knew it was just a way to work the laws around to banning abortion. Duh!

By PointyStick

March 9, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Stewie - Keep your legs closed ladies are use birth control if you don’t want to have kids

why don’t you MEN keep your pecker in your pants if you don’t want a kid?

if men gestated kids, abortion would be a human right and contraception would be a sacrament.

By AtlantaDude

March 9, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Well, what do you expect from somebody who was racist, nut job Lester Maddox’s right hand man?

By ANGEL

March 9, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Zell, It is unbelievable that a nation under God would allow this” - It is UNBELIEVABLE THAT A NATION UNDER GOD ALLOW, PRESERVE, BREED & FEED OFF a lot of thingS.

By KC

March 9, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

It is obvious that Zell a long time ago wished to change parties, but do to some advice that he received from party leaders it was determined that he could best serve them (and himself) by remaining in the party and attacking from within. Zell has benefited financially from his new views since he left the party and decided to accept the senate position. Bottom line is if Sean Hannity will endorse him and praise him he must be a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Zell, do us all a favor and end the charade. We thought highly of you as governor, but now that legacy is long forgotten. Zell, did Sean’s endorsement of your book payoff as much as you expected?

By Jesse's Girl

March 9, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

Iwa…while agree with you that the majority of women having abortions are very probably white….I have to touch on this minorities aren’t ashamed to have b******* babies issue. I hate to be so blunt, but they should be. There used to be a stigma attached to an unwed mother. There used to be a stigma attached to the guy that got her pregnant. Not anymore. These days it seems to be a badge of honor. Its so common place to see unwed, teenaged mothers walking around our middle and high schools. Its shameful.

By jeff

March 9, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

Zell is right

By doug

March 9, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Its sad to say, but why do these things always seem to come out of this state. This is why there so many stereotypes about the state. We all know most of us don’t feel this way, but this is what gets in the news. This might be the first time a pro life and pro choice persons agree on, that Millers comments make no sense at all. AMAZING

By Tammy

March 9, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

So who is going to adopt all these babies who would normally have been aborted? Because let me tell you, a great many of them will be born addicted to drugs or with severe fetal alcohol syndrome. I know you can sign up Stewart and Bridget. Any other takers? Didn’t think so!

By Vermin8

March 9, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

The problem with Social Security is that we do not have enough workers to support the soon-to-retire Baby Boom generation. If we had had widely available abortion by 1946, there likely wouldn’t be all these old timers to support. Ergo, the problem is not that Roe vs. Wade happened but that it happened 30 years too late.

By Pete L.

March 9, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

Hey Zell,

We can make up that deficit by initiating the draft again. We can start at the college level and recruit all those “so call patriots” hiding behind the Republican Shield. That should account for a large percentage of the shortage you’re alluring (which I think is totally insane). You just validated what we the majority of the us already knew — you’re off your rocker!!!

By R.Thomas

March 9, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

Bridget & Stewart: You can’t put the genie back in the bottle. The sexual revolution has happened and you can’t undo it. That being said, a large percentage of babies born in this country are born out of wedlock so you can’t convince me that abortions are done out of shame of an unwanted out of wedlock baby. No sir! They are done for the same reason now that they were done when they were illegal- mostly that reason is money. Some folks find themselves pregnant when there is no way they can afford to have a child. Abortions may not be cheap but they are cheaper than raising a baby. But the GOP keeps getting rid of government programs that would help poor women raise their babies. Go figure!

By steve

March 9, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

It’s official: I’ve told my wife and sons that if I ever become what Zell has become, please pull the plug and end it all……

By Self Destruct

March 9, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

What a vicious cycle. First we desensitize our culture to the sanctity of life by abortion on demand at any stage of pregnancy and executing those incarcerated for capital crimes. Then euthanasia becomes acceptable. Before long, we like China - will then be tempted to begin harvesting the organs of our incarcerated population and justify it through utilitarian and medicinal purposes. And then, it becomes very easy for us to execute and justify nuclear strikes. If the one life is not sacred, especially those most vulnerable and innocent, then we eventually all become at risk because of our silence. At least Zell isn’t afraid to speak up and show us where we are and where we’re going.

By B. Plyler

March 9, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

Zell Miller is absolutely correct. If that many people had been lost in an ongoing war since 1972, no one would disagree with his comments.

By Donna P.

March 9, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

To Sarah at 2:00 PM - My pharmacist has NEVER not given me my birth control and has NEVER told me that I couldn’t get it. I don’t know of any women not allowed to get birth control and is some areas of the country, it is free or low cost at FREE CLINICS.

Both of my parents clothed and fed me thank you. My mother had an affair and that is why she got pregnant so instead of being RESPONSIBLE FOR HER OWN ACTIONS, she chose the easy way out – abortion.

By itsmydecision

March 9, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

You’ve gotta be kidding me! Birth control limits the population more than abortion ever could, why not blame it too? I can see the headline now…”Throw away your condoms and pills for the sake of your country.” I don’t think so!

By M. Liles

March 9, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

I think it’s because of too many duels.

By George

March 9, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

What is this nonsense??? Please it’s bad enough most of my paycheck goes to paying for lazy people and their kids. Yet I work in a field where I’m supposed to solve cancer and “donate” most of my paycheck for people on welfare. If Zell wants the abortions to stop then he can pay for all those kids, because I never agreed to do it.

By lwa

March 9, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Jesse’s girl, you are correct, they should be ashamed but for the right reasons.

My point was that to be yound and pregnant wasn’t a huge neg/stigma in the minority communities. It was just a fact of life. I am not arguing right or wrong, just not a complete negative. Now, in 2007 with education opportunities, travel, medicine, life, etc. it is ashamed that someone would have to put their life on hold to raise a child.

We forget that teenage pregnancy has been around for many gerations. My grandmother was sixteen and married. However, that is what life was about in the 40s. We as a society are beyond that now and there is more that life has to offer. The shame is not getting that message through to a lot of girls/women.

For some women it is just plain ignorance. For some, just plain stupidity.

By Derek

March 9, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

This is why this fool needed to retire for thinking so idiotically! (Wow to blame abortions,immigration etc.for troop shortages,what about people just not wanting to be apart of a stupid military that don’t take care of their own!)

By Julie

March 9, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

The best-seller Freakanomics asserts that the drop in the crime rate is due to the rise in the number of abortions so is Senator Miller’s comment so far-fetched?

By boots

March 9, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Successful politicians crave the attention and adjulation of the crowd —-and some will do or say anything to get attention, even if it’s misguided. Zell deserves a lot of praise for his accomplishment as Guv, but the time has come for him to exit stage right. Thanks for the Hope Scholarships and Adios!

By TimBuck

March 9, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Zell’s comments are statistically correct. Read the bood “Freakonomics” and educate yourself before you criticize his message. He is not condemning anyone, he statement is supported with data. Deal with it!

By Amy Morton

March 9, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

When Zell opens his mouth, don’t you just expect nonsense? I do. But remember, as ridiculous as this all sounds, it is an talking point of the anti-choice crowd. Don’t believe me? Take a look at the bill filed in Georgia- AND GIVEN A HEARING - to make abortion illegal in this state. That bill includes this nonsense and even more inaccurate statements. Abortion causes breast cancer, smoking, divorce and so much more. Give me a break.

By Tom

March 9, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

He’s just a complete embarrassment to the state. I don’t know how we do it Newt, Zell, Larry McDonald - it’s just crackpot city around here.

By kabe

March 9, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

you people are pathetic. go ‘head zell. you speak MUCH truth. for those who want to know what “has happened” to zell. he’s been touched by the Holy Spirit. that is what has happened. sounds like most of you need a touch too.

By Becky

March 9, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Suan M. post at 1:09pm, do you know what’s involved with trying to adopt here? You must not or you would know that this is why people go out of the country to adopt. So how many have you adopted?

By A Wise Woman

March 9, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

A woman once said “Abortion is the worst evil, and the greatest enemy of peace… Because if a mother can kill her own child, what will prevent us from killing ourselves or one another? Nothing”. Mother Teresa in her 1979 Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech.

By JohnM

March 9, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Next up: Zell calls on all Georgians to kill a gay for Jesus: “It will solve all of North Georgia’s traffic problems, and end high school droputs”.

By deb

March 9, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

Vermin-excellent point! I suppose that Zell lacks the creativity and intellect to see abortion from that angle, though.

By Stewart

March 9, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

Tammy, I’ll adopt my share! There are many people in this country who cannot have kids. That doesn’t change the fact that abortion is murder. I’m not some right wing wacko telling people not to have premarital sex. People need to take responsibility for their actions. The majority of the women that have abortions have mental problems later in their lives due to guilt.

By Jim L.

March 9, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this

Read “Freakonomics” by Steve Levitt and Steve Dubner. They have mathematically proven that the american women’s right to an abortion has created a sustained drop in violent crime. Abortion has selectively reduced those persons who would be the least advantaged, the least loved, and the most likely to become murderers, carjackers, rapists, etc. Furthermore…HUMAN BEINGS ARE NOT STOCK FARM ANIMALS…we have control over our reproductive cycle, we are not slaves to our biology.

Furthermore, Zell, we aren’t a nation “under God”…we are a republic, not a theocracy, and our laws should be based on reason instead of this religious nonsense. Why would your belief in God have anything to do with reality? How could you prove to a skeptical world that a) There is a God and b) Your God is the one true God while all of the other Gods are just fairy tales.

By Ted

March 9, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

I started to read the comments until I got to the 3rd. or 4th. (Joe D.). Up until now I didn’t know that caring compassionate people approved of the killing of children; and the mindless statement that an embryo is not a child yet begs the question — if left to term, what then would you get, a sofa?

By gdawginkalamazoo

March 9, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Why is it every time now days that I hear Zell’s comments or see him on the Sunday pundit shows I keep hearing that Looney Tunes music in my head?

By deb

March 9, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

Self-Destruct- you say that abortion has/will desensitize us to capital punishment, going to war and killing people, etc. However, the very people who say they are opposed to abortion are-GASP-the ones who support capital punishment and the war in Iraq! Both of these activities kill people, so why don’t conservatives oppose them? And ZigZag seems a little callous to be suggesting that we should end abortion so that we’ll have more troops to die in war. Reminds me of the Planned Parenthood slogan “Republicans want live fetuses so they can grow up to be dead soldiers” I hate to break it to you, but abortion has not desensitized us to life-we already were that way long before 1973.

By Jacob

March 9, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

Zell - my hindsight crystal ball is clearer than your’s and mine shows those 45 million babies would have grown to be gay high school dropouts with incredible disabilities to qualify for social security disability. Most of them would be living in Virginia Highlands or Piedmont Park area. So tell me again, how much better of we would be??? Zell, old man quit drinking on the front porch while holding your laptop. It’s gotten out of control.

By Steve

March 9, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Unwanted children don’t end up paying social security. Usually, they end up robbing you. If anything, we need more abortions.

By E

March 9, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Wow. There is just nothing to say to that kind of logic.

I’ve encounterd people like poor Zell before. There is no arguing with the unstable.

By olkoot

March 9, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Will some one shut that ol’ koot up… I am ashame to say I voted for him in the past. I thought he just faded away, with all the other folk from his generation with views as his.

Zell is just trying to get attention… is he writing another book…

By Lynn

March 9, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

As usual another ignorant statement. I always ask those opposed to abortion- How many kids have you adopted today? THere are 14,000 kids in Georgia’s SS system how many did he adopt?

By Phillip

March 9, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

he’s been touched by the Holy Spirit. sounds like most of you need a touch too.

So I too can make asinine statements?

That’s okay, I’ll pass.

By Bob

March 9, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

I don’t understand the reflex responses of some people who are just calling Miller names. Don’t you think that over 40 million abortions might affect our country in the least? At least half of those 40 million would probably be tax paying, social security contributing citizens. It has made a difference.

By Sarah

March 9, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Ah kabe, I agree with you that Zell has been touched all right. Touched in the head. Adult onset dementia is never a pretty sight. We usually don’t get to see it play out in the media though.

By rid0617

March 9, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

Dear Zell The reason there are not enough in the military is who wants to work for low pay and risk being killed in an insane war? The reason we have an illegal immigration problem is because Democrats want cheap votes and Republicans want cheap labor. Just wanted to catch you up on the year 2007

By Me!

March 9, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

Iwa,

??? I think you totally misunderstood Bridget’s comments. She didn’t say minorites have more abortions than whites. Are you reading the comment I read? Also, where do you get this notion that minorities can’t afford to pay for abortions? I’m not sure about you but I’m a minority and there’s no way I could come home pregnant without a husband. In my house it is taboo. Stop speaking for all or even most minorities because you’re dead wrong! What you stated may be true for the minorities you know.

By Annoyed

March 9, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

Stewart -

By kf

March 9, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

idiot

By DamnTheMan

March 9, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

I guess Zell is proof that the village of Young Harris is missing it’s idiot. I truly hope this fruitbat isn’t teaching collage students anymore.

And please stop agrandizing Zelly’s military record. He’s not a “war veteran”, he was a stateside instructor who never even saw “the enemy”. At best, he was a “war time veteran”. Let’s not equate him with real heroes that risk thier lives for thier country.

By WESLEY FRANKLIN

March 9, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

YES, and the 45 million could help locate the new Iraq’s cells.

http://www.house.gov/mccaul/

” A LINE IN THE SAND: CONFRONTING THE THREAT AT THE SOUTHWEST BORDER” Iraq’s Learning Spanish Before Crossing to America from Mexico

By DICK

March 9, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Most of the problems in this world can be blamed on there being too many people. If you’ve had an abortion, vasectomy or “been fixed” THANK YOU! For not sentencing some poor soul to an average 72 year sentence in this sh*&^y world and not crowding the world further. Most people are idiots like Zell the zealot and there’s no need to creat more.

By PointyStick

March 9, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Stewie - The majority of the women that have abortions have mental problems later in their lives due to guilt

not to mention stinky feet, bad breath, flatulence, lazy eye, gingevitas, low sex drive, dry mouth, and an inability to “handle” ones alcohol.

ALSO (“common” side-effects, according to the so-called “AbortionInfo.net”) Infertility, Cervical Laceration, Uncontrollable blood clotting, Severe hemorrhage, Seizures, Coma, Cancer, Death.

Buncha cr@p. Try reading something from the AMA, the Department of Health, or some other non-partisan FACTUAL source, instead of the lying screeds of anti-woman pro-forced gestation organizations. Learn some FACTS instead of spreading your opinion-based LIES.

By daliraja

March 9, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Miller and Bush must have gone to the same school. Moron University!

By tlp

March 9, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Just when I thought I have heard the most ignorant comment possible, Zell Miller opens his mouth. That is the most stupid statement ever uttered by any Republicrat ever! He wants children to be born but look at the PeachCare situation and the conditions of our public school system. Or they should be born to die in Iraq.

By Barry

March 9, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

Governor Goofy strikes again!!! The really bad thing is that he is talking to a lot of other goofies who haven’t had an original thought in their lives.

By Deb

March 9, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

There is no excuse for unwanted pregnancy these days. It seems the people with the most kids are ones who can least afford it and expect the government to take care of their poor judgement and decision making.

By Muse

March 9, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

Apparently Zell subscribes to the “I reject your reality and substitute my own” school of thought.

Then again, as Stephen Colbert has noted, “Reality has a well known liberal bias.”

By lovelyliz

March 9, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Here I was blaming my dog’s flatulence emissions for increasing global warming when it was all caused by abortion.

By Hawker

March 9, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

Zell has it right; The same thing Larry Burkett and others have been saying for a decade.

We have murdered an entire generation and there will be fiscal as well as moral consequences.

By Ad-Hoc

March 9, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

have to comment on the fact that I escorted a friend of mine to an abortion clinic and it was half and half. White and black. Very crowded room and it hit me full force. Very much in support of women having control over their own bodies, but in the end, it is not a very nice thing and I hate all of the side-talk to make it sound all groovy. It’s the killing of a unborn child pure and simple, but it still should remain a personal decision.

By Bobbie

March 9, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

With a voluntary military, who’s to say these 45 million people would be enlisted? Common sense tells you that the more people pay into social security, more will draw out. I agree with the issue of illegal immigrants. Joining the military to support our country is one thing but a useless unnecessary war is another.

By deca

March 9, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Here’s something interesting from John Mueller, author of “How America would be Stronger if Abortion Remained Illegal:”

After nearly thirty years, the data suggest that abortion has been anything but good for the United States. By reducing the size of the population, abortion has correspondingly reduced the size of the economy; over time, it will undercut one main cause of the American economy’s current dynamism: innovation. By contributing to a sharp drop in the net marriage rate, legalized abortion has already reduced the standard of living of the average American household. Legalized abortion is also single-handedly responsible for anticipated imbalances in the Social Security retirement system. Taken in its entirety, legal abortion is perhaps the single largest American economic event of the past century, more significant than the Great Depression or the Second World War. Tracing the extent of this impact demonstrates that, had abortion remained illegal, the American population would be significantly larger, it would contain a larger share of intact marriages and two-parent families, and average living standards would be higher. In addition, the analysis warns that if it continues unchecked, legal abortion will progressively erode both America’s relative economic importance and her average absolute standard of living.

By Eric

March 9, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

The truth hurts, but has to be told..

By mlr710

March 9, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

Is Zell in the first stage of Alzheimer’s??

By KarenM

March 9, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this

So Zell Miller wants unwanted children to foot the bill for Social Security and pad the ranks for wars? The Democratic Party is all he left behind; he’s lost his sanity.

By Patriotsthink

March 9, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

Abortion rights aside, most of Western civilization is aging and we are not replacing ourselves. Do the math. More people are living single or childless than in past generations. Many families are having only one or two children. Should to one of those children die… Just do the math.

By charlie boy

March 9, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

Zig-zag is the perfect argument for abortion.

By KarenM

March 9, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

kabe,

Zell’s been touched, but it ain’t by the holy spirit.

By Mollie

March 9, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

I didn’t know Zell Miller very well until I saw him shoot flames out his eyes at the 2004 Republican Convention. He made Bob Dole look happy-go-lucky.

Can’t say much that hasn’t been said - but that I am pleased to see the majority of the posts are respectfully questioning ZellR