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By Lee

August 1, 2006 5:02 PM | Link to this

Not only is Kemp’s blind suggestion that we cut the agriculture department by 10% irresponsible, it is inconsistent. Prior to the run-off, Kemp argued, in his responses to queries from the Georgia Cattleman Association, that the current Commissioner of Agriculture has not done enough to ensure funding for agriculture initiatives. Classic politician. He panders to the group in which he speaks, unfortunately, he adds flip-flopping to a resume that already includes blind ambition. How can one suggest we are going to arbitrarily cut the department by 10% when no real investigation has taken place? We may be able to the department by more! Brian Kemp once again demonstrates why he is out of his league.

By jackson

August 1, 2006 5:16 PM | Link to this

Lee -

You can cut WASTE and properly fund iniatives. It’s called spending WISELY.

By Jack S

August 1, 2006 6:13 PM | Link to this

I”m sick of liberal democrats like Tommy Irvin wasting my tax dollars and I’m sick of “Republicans” who are doing the exact same thing.

DC Republicans need their butt kicked. And after reading Kemp’s mailer it’s clear to me that Gary Black is nothing more than Tommy Irvin in a different colored suit.

I’m for whoever will cut out all the wasteful spending and lower my taxes. So i’m for Kemp.

By Dave

August 1, 2006 8:34 PM | Link to this

I see “jackson” and “Jack S” are on the Kemp payroll.

Brian Kemp is the posterchild of everything wrong with politics. He has no clue about agriculture, and looks like a moron in his own press shots, standing in a field wearing his nice clothes. Kemp can’t navigate his way around a Publix produce section, much less be our Ag Comm.

Smug and non-sincere - that’s Brian Kemp. I’m surprised Athens produced such a dirtbag. (Being a dirtbag - so THAT is his connection to agriculture!)

By Tony

August 1, 2006 9:11 PM | Link to this

Dave,

Are you on Gary’s payroll? Such a slam of a fellow Republican goes far to try and help your candidate. Does Gary share your view of Brian?

By Justin

August 1, 2006 9:37 PM | Link to this

The way the state has been trending Republican it won’t surprise me to see whomever wins (Kemp or Black) defeat Irvin in November. Kemp’s position is interesting, but he needs to elaborate on his proposal before true conservatives get suckered in by another promise from another candidate. I look forward to the debate tomorrow night in hopes of hearing Kemp questioned on his proposal and seeing what details he can provide. If he does the typical dodge, duck, evade and deflect that most candidates do during debates, then we’ll know he’s all talk.

By jackson

August 1, 2006 9:48 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Dave, I’m on Kemps payroll because I said,”You can cut WASTE and properly fund iniatives. It’s called spending WISELY.” It gets annoying when you say somthing simple that CONSERVATIVES say all the time, yet I am on his payroll.

I say nothing negative about Black, yet you claim Kemp is a dirtbag. By that logic, you must be Irvin or Black’s campaign chairman.

By TiftDawg

August 1, 2006 9:49 PM | Link to this

I wish you would all stop the mud-slinging. I admit to being a Black fan, but I would like to see Kemp tell me about his agricultural experience instead of issuing blanket (read “empty”)promises about cutting spending. I don’t want to see waste, but an ag advocate shouldn’t arbitrarily cut legislated spending for agriculture; he may be able to use it more wisely, but if I were in the ag industry, simply “cutting the budget” wouldn’t excite me. That seems to be a way to pit the “non-ag” voter against the “ag voter”.

Gary Black was a state FFA President (while I was a 4-Her), and has spent his entire career in agriculture, with the Farm Bureau and the Georgia Agri-Business Council. He is a conservative family man who knows the legislative process and the agriculture industry. He will make an outstanding Ag Commissioner.

By jackson

August 1, 2006 10:02 PM | Link to this

TiftDawg, I agree with you that I dont like mudslinging, but what’s wrong with pointing out differences in a campaign?

Gary Black want to keep spending as is, and Brian Kemp wants to cut the spending and put the money where it can be best used.

YOu might want to find out what the Ag department does. It’s not all farming. I have no idea what an “non-ag” voter is verses and “ag voter” is. Sees to me the department spends ALL our tax dollars, not just those of “ag voters”.

By TiftDawg

August 1, 2006 10:37 PM | Link to this

Jackson- I have nothing against Kemp; I have friends who know him and speak highly of him. I simply maintain that “cutting spending” and “putting the money where it can be best used” is empty rhetoric. The Ag Commissioner may represent all voters, but he is a special advocate of the ag industry. If I can simplify it for you, a “non-ag” voter would be someone who doesn’t see himself as directly involved in the industry, and would likely prefer that spending for agricultural issues be reduced.

Gary Black is uniquely qualified for the position of Ag Commissioner. In my humble opinion, Kemp might make a good commissioner, but I believe Gary will be an outstanding commissioner. He may not possess Brian’s polish, but he has displayed a life-long commitment to the industry.

Thanks for the advice, but I am well aware of the function of the Ag department. Much of it is administrative, as is the Secretary of State’s office. The career bureaucrats can handle that. The Commissioner should be, first and foremost, the state’s top agriculture advocate.

By heck yeah

August 1, 2006 11:16 PM | Link to this

I’m not a Republican or Democrat because I believe in limited gov’t. But dang it, at this point in time I’d vote for Larry the Cable Guy if he’d cut the budget by 10%.

By jackson

August 1, 2006 11:39 PM | Link to this

Please define “empty rhetoric”. Isnt that what campaigns are about? Presenting plans and ideas to make the office/position better? You say he is a fine man, but in reality, your “empty rhetoric” comment is just a nice way of callin Kemp a liar.

There are no such thing as ag voters and non-ag voters. That is a term thought up by political junkies and bureaucrats. Just because folks want waste and spending reduced, doesnt mean they are a non-ag voter.Sounds to me like someone who doesnt want to cut was would be a special interest voter, and concerned more about his/her well-being than that of the rest of the state as a whole.

I believe Agriculuture is much more important to our state than most people realize. But as ag commissioner, you are an advocate for many things, #1, though, you are an advocated for the voters and what their best intrests are— and if that is finding fraud and eliminating it — I dont see the problem.

By aaron

August 2, 2006 4:59 AM | Link to this

Cynthia McKinney’s voters are largely victims, as is she — the target of all racsists (if you believe that old excuse she’s overused). Like that blamer of a mayor from New Orleans, McKinney will win.

If she loses, she’ll blam it on Bush.

By the sweet by and by

August 2, 2006 7:08 AM | Link to this

AGRICULTURE??

I think the issues need to be defined here:… 1) The Morning After Pesticide. (yes or no)……..2) the Corn on the Cobb County (boiled or grilled)…..3) Potato IDs (Headshots)….the losing candidate gets a John Deere letter from voters (flora or fauna)…4) Soft Money or Soft Fertilizer…….(ew).

By Debbie

August 2, 2006 7:35 AM | Link to this

Gary Black is by far the best qualified candidate. Black can run circles around Kemp as far as knowledge about agriculture issues. Black has the support of the Ag groups that help re-elect Tommy Irvin time after time and that means Gary can win in November.

It is important that AG groups support the nominee. Not every voter votes on “down ballot” candidates. If you are in the AG business, you will be certain to.

As a Reed supporter, I am not supporting any state senators for state wide office and I urge other Reed supporters to follow suit. Say no to the “Senate Mafia.”

By TiftDawg

August 2, 2006 8:12 AM | Link to this

In this case, “empty rhetoric” means that Kemp has revealed no identified waste, it just makes for a good campaign line. The answer is so obvious that it perhaps shows a little belligerence on your part. If Kemp can point to a wasteful program that needs to be reduced or eliminated, I’m all for it. I just don’t know that he has.

While the Ag Commissioner is elected by all voters, he is a specific representative of the Ag industry, you can’t credibly deny that. As Debbie points out, Gary has the support of these folks because of his experience and their familiarity with him. These are the folks that will get enthusiastic about this race in the fall, and I believe that that will make Gary the most likely to defeat Irwin in the general election.

In another time, and another place, I’d be a supporter of Kemp; I just think that he is the less qualified candidate in this election. Irwin could make a serious issue of his inexperience in agriculture, perhaps eliminating the advantage that a Republican now has in a statewide election.

By Philly

August 2, 2006 8:21 AM | Link to this

Gary Black is the most qualified for AG Commissioner.

Brian Kemp’s campaign consultant also works for Casey Cagle so the campaign will be nasty.

By Debbie

August 2, 2006 8:35 AM | Link to this

Brian Kemp was a good conservative state senator. He is just the wrong man for the job. Brian is supported by his fellow State Senators because they support their “own”.

Tommy Irvin has been in office for eight terms or twenty four years. He has won eight elections. He has contacts in the AG community and can only be beaten by someone with those same ties or contacts.

Gary Black has those ties and contacts. He has worked with the AG business in Georgia for 25 years.

Read his biography and compare it to Kemp’s.

http://www.votegaryblack.com/default.asp?pt=doc&doc=about

Look at Gary’s supporters:

http://www.votegaryblack.com/default.asp?pt=doc&doc=supporters

Gary can win in November. Gary is the only one that can finally retire Tommy Irvin…

By sundawg

August 2, 2006 8:36 AM | Link to this

Gary Black is the most qualified canidate for AG Commissioner. Period, Exclamation point!!!!!

By the sweet by and by

August 2, 2006 8:38 AM | Link to this

I hear you Debbie. We need Ralph Reed in the White House now. We shoulda voted for him, I am so sorry that I made fun of him with the, “He had me at Halo” thing. If we had a Dominion Christian as Our Father in the White House, then we’d be holding a Nuke Crux and telling China to stand down. We may as well get this first global exchange of nukes over with now, as to wait till we are forced into it by the Shia, who themselves as a population entity become weapons of mass destruction aimed at Israel.

This is a tactical WMD showdown, that only made page four of the AJC yesterday, but page three today. Page Three is the New front page?

It’s a nuclear showdown because Israel will not stop themselves from a full retaliatory response if Jerusalem gets sacked one more time by those confounded Babylonians. What is with those people? This is religion after only 2000 years AD. This is tribal survival-mode sociology for at least 25000 years.

And we have to sit here and listen to the likes of George W Bush, urging the rush to judgement day. He’s a cliche, and he’s obsolete. He doesn’t even believe that the Syrians are really allies with Iran. Those are Shia-dictated press releases coming out of Syria. He’s an oblivious child, and a dangerous man. Eyes wide shut. Nicole is the prettiest of them all. That proves Tom Cruise is gay.

By Billy Joe

August 2, 2006 8:44 AM | Link to this

Yes, now that Cagle’s campaign consultant got him elected with the dirtiest campaign in Georgia history, he can turn his attention to poor Senator Kemp so that he doesn’t lose that one.

So it will turn down and dirty like the Cagle race. Joel will try to go through some of Kemp’s millions in order to get him elected.

It is a shame that’s the way Republican politics seems to be headed.

Like Debbie, I too will shun any candidate backed by the Senators who were close to Cagle. Lord knows what we in for with Cagle as Lt. Governor.

By Philly

August 2, 2006 8:46 AM | Link to this

sweet, you need to lay off sniffing glue because your brain cells are destroyed. Your posting makes no sense. But then again it is clear your role models are George Soros, Michael Moore and Howard Dean…Don’t you liberals get tired of being defeated at the ballot box?

By jackson

August 2, 2006 9:05 AM | Link to this

Actually, tiftdawg, he has pointed out that the audit found waste and mismangement in just one division. Are you trying to argue that a liberal democrat like tommie irvin is running an efficient ship over there? Seriously?

The bottom line is he found waste (we actually, the audit found waste) and he has presented a plan to spending money more wisely. Gary Black said we need MORE money for the Department. Why does he need more money, when he hasnt even figured out where most of the waste is.

I will support Black if he wins, no question. I just think you are misguided on the spending issue as well as on what it takes to run the ag department. Experience is in the eye of the beholder.

Debbie/Philly: I try not to respond much to your lunatic rants. Debbie told everyone on peach pundit that she had “complete faith in the republican primary voter to choose the nominee.” She continues to lie, and frankly, realize that her support of republicans is based on solely if her candidate wins a primary. It’s OKAY to trash your opponent, but only if you win, right debbie? Pathetic. BTW, I am still waiting for the steak dinner you promised everyone when Ralph lost.

By debbie

August 2, 2006 9:21 AM | Link to this

Jackson, show me how I have lied.

I do support the nominee of the party unlike you. You said if Reed won you would not vote for him so who are you to criticize anyone that does not? Having a little struggle with hypocrisy? I will vote for Cagle only because as a GOP activist I pledge to support the party nominee. I can’t force my hubby to vote for Cagle nor can I force any other Reed supporter to vote for Cagle.

I will NOT turn my back on Reed to support Cagle. I will not join you Cagle supporters in blasting Reed and WILL continue to defend Reed. If Cagle doesn’t want my vote under those conditions then so be it.

I supported Robert Lamutt for the Sixth District Congressional race/ Lamutt lost, Price won and I whole heartedly support Tom.

The Cagle campaign ran an extremely nasty campaign. They went over the top with the Marianna’s ad so it is only natural some Reed supporters will not vote for Cagle and will either abstain or vote Libertarian or Democrat. You Cagle supporters made your bed hard so you can now lie in it. Continuing to blast Reed does nothing but hurt Cagle.

By Philly

August 2, 2006 9:34 AM | Link to this

It is clear that the State Senators are going for a power play or power consolidation. In mafia like style, they fielded candidates for for LT. Governor, Secretary of State and AG Commissioner. They even signed a letter asking Ralph Reed not to run. They have used heavy handed tactics in support of the state senate candidates for state wide office.

In their arrogance, they fielded a candidate that is in no way qualified to serve as AG commissioner. Brian Kemp is no qualified.

The state senators need to be taught humility.

Vote for Karen Handel and Gary Black.

By Tony

August 2, 2006 9:37 AM | Link to this

Wow. It’s amazing how the Ag Race somehow comes down to Reed-Cagle. Somehow those who are still crying about July 18 just have to spread their bitterness on other races as well. Do you people honestly have anything positive to say? I swear. Nothing but whining on your parts. I have never heard more whining coming from a group of adults. You actually have a day care beat on whining as well. You little Reed cultists will be blaming Cagle for the Middle East issues and inflation before too much longer.

You keep blasting Cagle but somehow give Reed a free pass on his lies. So your candidate can lie through his teeth and that is acceptable but if anyone else says ANYTHING about your guy, it’s all lies? Can we continue how wonderful and ethical the Reed campaign was on the McKinney posts are as well? I’m sure they haven’t got their fill of Reed people still whining about Cagle and blaming him for the Kennedy assassination.

By Franklin

August 2, 2006 9:42 AM | Link to this

I got the Kemp Mailer. He cites that Gary Black said it was irresponsible to cut spending (citing the Atlanta Press Club Debate). I suggest each of you watch that debate because that is not what Gary Black said.

http://www.gpb.org/public/tv/highlights.jsp?hlid=5817

By BEN

August 2, 2006 9:59 AM | Link to this

Look guys, the mailer layed out for me. Gary Black is a Democrat, we have had to many others like him in this state, it is now cool to be Republican and Mr. Black wants to change his ways JUST to win an election. Lets say no to this liar and cheat—democrat lobbyists Gary Black!

By HBillings

August 2, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

Gary Black is a liberal special interest lobbyist. Kemp is Conservative State Senator with bold policy initiatives like cutting wasteful spending, something that conservatives have fought for for years now. We need Brian Kemp. He is the only choice. Tommy Irvin has said over and over that he will crush Gary Black with the intel he has on him.

We have to have a Leader that can win, not a goober like Gary that will lose.

By debbie

August 2, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

With the same consultant working for both Cagle and Kemp, I am not all suprised that Kemp’s ads distorts and twist what Gary said. Look for it to get worse…

Gary is by far the best qualified and he is the only one to defeat Irvin.

Tony, if you bother to read, you will see there was positive things said about Black. You stop whining…

By Debbie

August 2, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

Ben, if Gary is a Democrat then why does he have the support of GOP Congressmen? Another false statement issued by the Kemp campaign. No suprise

By Michael

August 2, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

Yes, Gary knows about Ag, how corn grows, how to play with a heifer, how to wear a purple jacket and that is great! I am glad he is involved in Ag. But this department is far more far reaching than just farming. It is a business, dealing with research and protecting our families, all of which is over Gary’s head. Besides he is no more of a farmer than I am.

Brian Kemp is a Leader and Leadership is what we need. Gary Black is a follower and a special interest lobbyist who is bought and paid for like some of the others that are in prison.

By BEN

August 2, 2006 10:11 AM | Link to this

Debbie, lets see…. maybe because Gary is a lobbyists and he has been padding their pockets over the years?? They feel that they have to support Gary, no matter what you say you can’t cover up the fact that Gary Black is a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT LOBBYISTS!

By steve

August 2, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Debbie, your ignorance is amusing. Look at the records, look at the facts. Gary Black is a proven LIBERAL DEMOCRAT SPECIAL INTEREST LOBBYIST. He has been kissing the shoes of liberal democrats for years, like TOm Murphy, Charles Walker, Roy Barnes, Cynthia McKinney, and Nan Orrock for years.

It is simple why he has the Congressmen support. They are bought and paid for. It is easy to get support from someone when you pay them, just like big million dollar corporations are paying Gary Black to run.

Vote Conservative Leader, Brian Kemp, not Liberal Lobbyist Gary Black.

By Tony

August 2, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

What Debbie…one sentence fragment surrounded by “evil Cagle” and “evil Kemp”? Give me a break.

I know many farmers even more educated on the issues than Gary but that doesn’t make them qualified to run. As some others here say this agency is far more than planting corn and milking cows. Most of you cannot even name half of what the Department does without checking the Department website.

I have noticed he’s voted Democrat in the past. Anyone care to reason why he’s voted Democrat before?

By Matt

August 2, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

A year ago, Gary Black admitted voting for John Kerry, NOW he says he’s a “life-long Republican”. His whole platform has changed since he first started campaigning. I heard that the Farm Bureau kicked him out when he worked for them. He got his Republican endorsements because they owed him “favors”. Lobbyists work that way you know. The small farmers and businesses know that they won’t get any help from Black, if he’s elected, because they can’t “pay” him big bucks. If Black wins the run off, Tommy Irvin is going to get him disqualified, then we will be stuck with Tommy again.

Kemp has my vote.

By cwb

August 2, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

Matt—you have no clue what you are talking about. Black never admitted to voting for Kerry. And even if he did, he is still the most qualified for the job. Have you read Kemp’s ideas and his little “why I’m running letter”? He has no basis. A monkey on a ship knows more about farming than Kemp does. He may be a fine senator and he might get a lot of things done, but he still has no idea about agriculture.

By Tony

August 2, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

CWB,

He voted for some Democrat….now which one was it? He cannot deny voting Democratic. It’s public record. Now considering all of the liberals he had to choose from, I wonder which one represented his values?

By cwb

August 2, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this

Ben-its lobbyist (without the S). Shows how much you know. Did you pass second grade? You probably don’t even know what being liberal means.

By Max

August 2, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

Gary needs to go back buying off politicians and going home in the evenings to play with his show heifers so he can think he is a farmer. Gary Black=Elmer Fudd.

A lobbyist has no business being agriculture commissioner. Gary Black will sell out Georgians for his big corporate buddies that are paying him. He is loser.

By cwb

August 2, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this

You tell me which democrat he voted for, because I honestly don’t know what you imagined in your mind. And you CAN be a conservative Democrat. (Look at Zell Miller)

By Tony

August 2, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

CWB,

Are you telling me he’s a conservative Democrat now? He’s voted Dem more than once so he has a history of bouncing around. Who is Gary Black?

By HBillings

August 2, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

Well, in the 2004 Dem Pres Preference Primary, what were the choices?? Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Sharpton?

By BEN

August 2, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

CWB,

Whatever, if that is the only thing you can call me out on you are pathetic, you need to get off this blog and let the big dawgs play, sorry all of this is over your head!

By cwb

August 2, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

Max=epitomy of ignorance

By cwb

August 2, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

No, i said that if he did vote democrat (which you made up) that doesn’t necessarily make him liberal

By cwb

August 2, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

Ben-It’s all over my head because I’m not completely aware and familiar with the stories you’ve concocted. SO if I were you, I would go to Gary Black’s website and Brian Kemp’s website and compare Gary’s stand and Brian’s (or lack of).

By Matt

August 2, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Kemp has gained the support of Bob Greer and his supporters as well as Deanna Strickland and her supporters! Those were the two candidates with the REAL farming experience. If you ask me that says a lot about Kemp!

Black is lying and cheating his way through this election. Kemp is playing honest and fair!

By cwb

August 2, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

He’s playing honest and fair, but so is Gary. The only difference is that Brian doesn’t know SQUAT about agriculture. Deanna Strickland has unsuccessfully run for this position before and changed her whole platform to endorse Kemp. She said that she was a farmer so she was the most qualified. (And like someone pointed out earlier on this blog earlier, Agriculture isn’t just farming!) But Gary has worked in Agriculture for his entire life. Kemp is a developer and a stone salesman. Think about it.

By Tony

August 2, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

CWB,

I tell you what. If you think I made it up go check his voting record. Go ask Gary to his face has he ever voted Democrat. While you’re at it, ask him how many times he’s voted. Then come back and let me know his answers. If he says he’s never voted Dem, tell him to go clear up his voting record with the county voter registrar.

Before you accuse someone of making something up you better make darn sure you have the facts. I’m sitting on the facts now. So you accusing me of making it up lets me know Gary has some really educated people out speaking for him.

By Tony

August 2, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

CWB,

By your logic should only those well versed in politics run for political office? Forget those who know MANY other facets of what the office brings to the table.

By BEN

August 2, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

CWB,

I am not going to waste my time looking at Gary’s website because he is a liberal democrat and I am not going to vote for him. It is a disgraace to have Gary Black on the Republican ballot. He is a Special Interest Lobbyists and I hope Georgia voters know this.

By cwb

August 2, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

Well I just asked him, and you made that up. Yeah and by the way, I’m in high school, and you’ve been arguing with me. SO who’s the idiot now. Just watch the debate tonight and then we’ll see who goes to bed laughing.

By John Galt

August 2, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

Debbie and all the Reed folks:

You claim Reed supporters won’t vote for Kemp, but I just got an email from Reed’s campaign manager, and he’s urging all the Reed supporters to vote for Kemp. Lots of Reed county chairs have also sent out similar emails.

So drop the “no one is voting for the Senate mafia crap.”

By jackson

August 2, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this

Debbie - your answer is always “show me how I lied” but when I do, you keep lying. It’s ridiculous. I have the actual post where you said you have complete faith in the party to pick the nominee (that was back when you garaunteed multiple times that W would campaign for ralph and ralph would win the primary by 15pts) but now you are saying you wont support the nominee.

My policy is consistent. I dont support/never have supported Ralph Reed because he is a liar and a hypocrite. I support the other candidates, even if the guy I like loses, as long as they are a person who is not going to sink the party, and advance our agenda.

I dont think Gary black is a bad person. I think he is honest and a decent human being. I dont think he is our best choice for Ag. I will support him if he wins. I think though, that Gary and the elitists in the ag community (as it relates to this race) think they are they only ones who know how to run a department like this, they dont think outside the box, and they are going to continue doing some of the stuff the same way. To me, that is not acceptable.

By john

August 2, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

Tony, I’m sure that they can use his knowledge of stone somewhere.

By BEN

August 2, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

Bottom line is that Gary is a liar, cheat and a Democrat Lobbyist. If he wins this runoff Tommy Irvin wil beat the hell out of him.

By john

August 2, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

What makes you think that Kemp can stand a chance?

By Tony

August 2, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this

CWB,

You aren’t by chance GWB are you? I mean who else would have that fast of access to ask daddy - I mean Gary. If Gary denies voting for a Democrat, he is lying. He’s picked up a Democratic ballot more than once. So who is the idiot? I’d say the one insisting that public record is made up. Next I’ll hear Cagle’s people sabotaged Gary’s voting record…and Kemp personally changed the R to a D.

By Tony

August 2, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

John,

Perhaps running a business and actually being a successful state legislator in a district with a large farming interest could help as well? Besides helping special interests buying control of government what does Gary know about government?

By Reagan Conservative

August 2, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

Jackson, you are making things up. Debbie said she would support the nominee but not turn her back on Reed. How is that lying? Debbie said that W would campaign for Reed if he wins the primary. I read her posting on Peach Pundit when she said that. Why don’t you quit your distortions and lies? You have worked for Cagle too long.

It is ok for you and Tony to have reasons not to support the nominee but you don’t think anyone else has that right. Real hypocrite you are. You and Tony both said you would not support Reed if he won. Myself and others have reasons not t support Cagle. How is that different? I think Cagle is deceitful and wrong for the party.

John Galt, I am on the Reed distribution list and have received no such email. How is that do you think? You are telling me that Jared Thomas sent out an email urging people to vote for Kemp. I will verify that and find out if you are lying. I have recieved emails from well known Reed supporters asking that I vote for Black. I know the Reed chairmen in Cobb and in Gwinnett are supporting Black.

Quit lying. It will not work.

By john

August 2, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

Gary has been involved in government for much longer than Kemp and is familiar with Georgia government. Being a lobbyist can be beneficial. A lobbyist must be well-versed about politics and must know the legislators well. If it weren’t for the lobbyists, many things would not get done.

By Debbie

August 2, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

Gary also lives in Dekalb County, home of Cynthia McKinney.

Did you guys go in the voting booth with Gary? How do you know how he voted? You just know he voted in the Democratic primary so stop your lies.

Gary is the best qualified and he is the one that can win in November.

Gary has the support of GOP Congressmen, and GOP elected officals. Now why would they support Gary if he were a Democrat?

John, I am on the Reed distribution list. I received no such email from Jared Thomas.

If you attend GOP party events before July 18th, you saw a lot of people with Reed,Handel and Black stickers on.

Most of the Reed folks are supporting Black.

By John Galt

August 2, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this

Honestly, do you think Reed’s campaign manager would send out an email using Reed’s blast email list? You guys are really bright.

No, it did not go out on the Reed list. It came from Reed’s manager’s personal email.

ReaganConservative, I trust you have your investigative dogs sniffing out this “lie.” C’mon back and post once you find out I’m right. I’ll be waiting.

Debbie, Virginia Galloway is supporting Kemp. You can verify that by going on your crazy people listserv.

By jackson

August 2, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

You’re right, Reagan Conservative. I am lying. That’s why Debbie made these posts on another site. HER words not mine. Bottom Line: Cagle Won. Reed Lost. They both ran negative campaigns. Deal with it.

LIE OR DELUSION 1: “You guys are dreaming about Cagle winning. Ralph will win by 10 - 15%.�

LIE OR DELUSION 2: “Reed will win by 15 - 20%. Get used to it.”

LIE 3: “What do you think they will think once Reed starts running ads of W and Cheney praising him? Of Rudy, Newt, Zell and other respected leaders praising him?” (NOTE THIS WAS REGARDING THE PRIMARY.)

LIE 4: “Reed is winning the fund raising race and will not be a drag on the party.” (NOTE: This was Said in May — BEFORE THE FINAL DISCLOSURE)

LIE 5: “GAWIRE, you forget about the fact Reed will be flooding the airwaves with ads. Voters will see those w ith Rudy, Zell, President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Newt, Sean and others praising Reed (NOTE: Again, referring to the PRIMARY)

LIE 6: “Reed will run ads with Bush and Cheney and other well known GOP officials praising Ralph. Does Cagle has such footage?” (NOTE: AGAIN, the PRIMARY).

Need I show more?

By Tony

August 2, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

Gary lives in DeKalb? Really? Great farming country in DeKalb. Debbie, how can you spin that he voted Democrat? He picked up a Democratic ballot in more than one election. Unless he turned in an empty ballot he voted for Democrats. The voter registrar’s office in his own county shows that. I’m not sure where you got that he lives in DeKalb. He must have recently relocated to DeKalb to ensure he could vote for a likeminded Dem?

Debbie, go run and make your phone call to Gary. Ask him how many times he voted on a Democratic ballot? And while you’re at it, ask him why he voted Dem as well.

And John, as far as lobbyists, if it weren’t for them, we’d have more honest government as well as less campaign finance scandals and less Cunninghams, DeLays, Neys, Rostenkowskis, etc.

By Jay Lane

August 2, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

Brian Kemp’s Voting Record:

1998 Primary - Democrat 2000 Primary - Democrat 2002 General - DID NOT VOTE

Would one of you Kemp supporters like to to jump on this one? Why did he vote for Roy Barnes in 1998 and not Guy Milner. Why did Kemp not vote for himself on 2002? This is on the internet to look up. I did.

By Franklin

August 2, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Interesting point Jay. I would like to know the answer to that myself since all these Kemp supporters claim Black is a huge Democrat.

By BEN

August 2, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

Jay,

This is flawed information that you got because, in 2002 Kemp was on the ballot, do you really think that he would not go and vote for himself??? Come on atleast think about it before you post information.

By Jay Lane

August 2, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

Dont take my word for it, Look it up!

By michael

August 2, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

Debbie you are off your rocker. Kemp lives in liberal democrat metropolis of clarke county, everyone runs democrat in local races, so you have to vote in dem primaries. there isnt an excuse for gary. HE is a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT SPECIAL INTEREST LOBBYIST. He is has no right to be Ag Commissioner. He may know something about Ag but doesnst have what it takes to be Ag Commissioner or a leader. He is a devious liar, trying to hide the truth and weasel himself into the Republican Party.

Say NO to RINOS, say NO to GARY BLACK.

Leaders not Loser Liberal Lobbyist

By Franklin

August 2, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this

You have to vote in democratic primaires because you live in a liberal democratic county? Did someone have a gun to his head I am confussed.

I have heard Kemp say many times that his county is the most liberal in Georgia so that means he was voting for liberals just on a local level then. I am sorry, that is a weak excuse

By Tony

August 2, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Well in reverse fashion how do you know he voted for Barnes? Were you there with him peering over his shoulder?

Gary did not vote in the 2000 Primary…why? Gary did not vote in the 1996 Presidential Primary. Why? He voted as a Dem in the 1996 Primary. He voted as a Dem in the 1996 Presidential Primary. Voting for Kerry maybe? I also notice his wife seems to vote more often than him especially on local elections. Does he not feel its necessary to vote on the place where all politics begins?

And in 2002 Kemp did vote GOP. Get the facts straight.

By Franklin

August 2, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

Who knows why Gary Black did not vote in those Primaries and who knows why he voted in the 96 Presidental Primary. You Kemp supporters just refuse to acknowledge that your golden boy DEVELOPER has voted in Democratic primaries too. The only reason you give is he voted for liberals on the local level. I am not defending Gary’s votes in a Democratic Priamry but Kemp’s supporters refusel to admit that both Kemp and Black have both voted in their fair share of Democratic Primaires is beyond me.

By Mitch

August 2, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

I have noticed that Black has gotten fair share of critism for being a Lobbyist. Franklins post reminds me that Kemp is a Developer. Why does no one ever talk about that. Personally I dont like Lobbyists and I dont like Developers. It just seems a little one sided on here. Kemp - Black supporters want to defend your mans honor?

By Tony

August 2, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Jay,

I looked it up and you’re wrong. Kemp voted GOP in 2002.

I guess someone held a gun to Gary’s head for voting in the 1996 Democratic Primary in Jackson County?

By jackson

August 2, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

Who cares about primaries. Both are Republians. Both say they are conservative…but only ONE wants to cut wasteful spending. Its not Black. It’s Kemp.

By Franklin

August 2, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

Then why did Kemp vote the Department’s Budget this year. It was about 3% increase from last year?

By Tony

August 2, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Franklin,

Perhaps since the Dems control government in Athens Kemp was voting for the least liberal. You know many in the 4th Congressional district and several places in GA have to do that. I’m not sure where Jackson Co. falls in the bastions of liberalism but that’s not explaining Gary’s votes. Giving to democratic campaigns in 2001 has to be explained as well.

By J

August 2, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

Where can I look up someone’s voting record in past primaries? Does the state have such a website, or does one have to go to each county voter registration office to look this up? The heck with these two candidates, I want to know how my neighbors have been voting…

By Franklin

August 2, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

Who did he give money too? Charlie Norwood and Zell Miller?

By Mitch

August 2, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

Still waiting on the DEVELOPER Answer from Kemp supporters?

By Tony

August 2, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

Zell back in the day when he was campaigning for Max Cleland. Zell back in the day when he was still staunchly Democrat and helping out Dems all over the country. Gary supporting that?

By Tony

August 2, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this

Oh and we cannot forget Zell during the same year when he spoke of the wonderous things Mark Taylor and Roy Barnes were doing in the Capitol. And Zell the same year He praised John Kerry and Max Cleland.

By Tony

August 2, 2006 1:03 PM | Link to this

Has Brian done something wrong as a developer? Last I checked, he helped bring housing and shopping to his area. He increased his county’s tax base which increases funding for schools and roads. I haven’t seen any claims he did anything wrong or made a career out of special interests.

By BEN

August 2, 2006 1:28 PM | Link to this

Look no matter how you Black supporters try to spin it—- Gary Black is a Democrat Special Interest Lobbyist who voted for John Kerry, John Edwards or Al Sharpton!

By Debbie

August 2, 2006 1:31 PM | Link to this

Tony of all the hypocrisy . YOU criticising Black for giving money to Democrats. Cagle gave money to Democrat Mark Taylor and that did not bother you.

You are telling an outright lie John Galt about Jared Thomas, Reed’s campaign manager, asking people to vote for Kemp. That did not happen. You are pathethic.

Virginia Galloway is not supporting Kemp. She is supporting Black.Another lie. I talked to Virginia a few weeks ago and she was supporting Black.

I did not lie Jackson. I actually thought that would happen. You are just twisting the facts to suit your purpose. How many times have you made statements that did not take place? Are they lies? Typical Kemp supporter.

By Debbie

August 2, 2006 1:39 PM | Link to this

I am not the least bit suprised the Kemp campaing turned nasty. After all, Kemp has the same campaign consultant as Cagle did.

Gary Black is a Republican. Look at the GOP elected officials that have endorsed Gary. They would not endorse him if he were a Democrat.

Lydia, Ward and Caroline Black - Commerce Former Speaker, U.S. House of Representatives Newt Gingrich Congressman Nathan Deal Congressman John Linder Congressman Charlie Norwood Congressman Lynn Westmoreland Former Attorney General Mike Bowers - Atlanta Former Transportation Commissioner Wayne and Anna Shackelford- Snellville Sen. Chip Pearson - Dawsonville Rep. Tommy and Karen Benton - Jefferson Rep. Jon Burns - Springfield Rep. Mack Crawford - Concord Rep. Terry and Cindy England - Winder Rep. Mike Keown- Coolidge Rep. Chuck and Johnna Martin - Alpharetta Rep. Tom and Jane McCall - Elberton Rep. Tom Rice- Norcross Rep. Jay and Sarah Roberts - Ocilla Former Rep. Jeff and Suzanne Williams - Braselton Former Rep. Craig Lanier - Metter Sheriff Gregory Coursey- Burke County Sheriff Stan Evans- Jackson County Tax Commissioner Matthew Ledbetter- Forsyth County Commission Chairman Doug Garrison- Barrow County Commission Chairman Jimmy Dixon- Burke County Commission Chairman Bill Clark- Catoosa County Commission Chairman J. Michael Byrd- Cherokee County Commission Chairman Greg Tarbutton- Coweta County Commission Chairman Zippy Duval- Greene County Commission Chairman Charles Bannister- Gwinnett County Commission Chairman Pat Bell- Jackson County Commission Chairman Charles Rustin- Toombs County Commission Chairman Dave Wills- Webster County Commissioner Wayne Crockett- Burke County Commissioner Bobby Winters- Catoosa County Commissioner Derek Good- Cherokee County Commissioner Lee Anderson- Columbia County Commissioner Sam Raulerson- Cook County Commissioner Ken Rountree- Cook County Commissioner Terrell Hudson- Dooly County Commissioner Charles Wyatt- Harris County Commissioner Reggie Bostick - Mitchell County Commissioner Billy Webster- Putnam County Commissioner Jason Hill- Rockdale County Commissioner Glenn Sears- Rockdale County Commissioner Jane Hubert- Taliaferro County Commissioner Jerry Albritton- Taylor County Commissioner Joe Cornelius- Ware County Commissioner Jack Bass- Worth County Former Commissioner Wallace Mathis- Crisp County Mayor Thomas Hines- Allenhurst Mayor Harris Little- Carnesville Mayor Susan Holmes- Monticello Mayor James Andrews- Sandersville Former Mayor Jimmy Matthews- Barnesville Mayor Pro-Tem Lewis Ledbetter- Cumming Mayor Pro-Tem Preston Dees- Sylvania Councilman Mark Fitzpatrick- Commerce Councilman Jeff Edgens- Irwinton Councilman Roy Campbell- Thomasville Councilman John Eunice- Valdosta Mr. Donnie Clark- Wilcox County Board of Education Chairman Mr. David Ball- Bulloch County Board of Education Mr. Chad Sumner- Cook County Board of Education Mr. Wayne Webber- Chairman of the Certified Pest Control Operators of Georgia Mr. Larry Munson- Voice of the Bulldawgs Mr. Ben Hinson- Bush/Cheney Co-Chair, 2004 Ms. Norma Rogers- First District Bush/Cheney Chair, 2004

By BEN

August 2, 2006 2:01 PM | Link to this

Debbie, should a person like you who has a roll in party leadership get this involved in a primary race?

By Tony

August 2, 2006 2:06 PM | Link to this

Debbie,

No hypocrite here. Did Black give money to Zell to make up for a nasty campaign by a Reed client? Or was it a favor for some special interest vote? You can’t even compare the two.

And it still amazes me how somehow Cagle fits into this race. I swear McKinney needs to blame her race on Cagle and the cabal conspiracy would be complete.

Debbie, you still haven’t explained his contribution AND his repeated Democratic votes. Are you too embarassed to ask Gary? Or is he too embarassed to admit? Why would anyone give to the man speaking honorably of john Kerry, Mark Taylor, and Roy Barnes? Why would anyone vote in Democratic races like Black did?

Debbie, I’d encourage you to check where your candidate lives before making such a foolish statement like Gary lives in DeKalb. You don’t even know where he’s from and are on here defending him.

By Chase D.

August 2, 2006 2:18 PM | Link to this

Ok, YES Gary is a lobbyists and yes he voted in the 2004 Democratic Presidential Primary and yes he has spported and voted for Democrats in the past but he has recently changed and is now a republican. He does work in Agriculture and has a little experience.

By Debbie

August 2, 2006 2:20 PM | Link to this

Ben, I can do whatever I want to in my personal capacity and I will not back down.

Gary is a Republican and the only one that can defeat Irvin. That is why Gary is supported by GOP Party activists and by GOP Congressmen like Lynn Westmoreland. Gary actually has AG experience and not just as a hobby like Kemp has.

Tony, you have not explained Kemp’s repeated votes either now have you? My understanding is that one of the times Gary voted in the Democratic Primary , he lived in Dekalb County

Tony, quit being a hypocrite. You think it is ok for someone you support to donate money to Democrats and vote in the Democratic primary but not others.

By Debbie0

August 2, 2006 2:27 PM | Link to this

http://www.sos.state.ga.us/elections/electionresults/20040302/0000110.htm

Lieberman was on the Democratic Ballot in 2004. He is conservative.

By jackson

August 2, 2006 2:32 PM | Link to this

Tell you what Debbie, when you stop lying, and admit to your lies, we’ll all start believing you.

By Debbie

August 2, 2006 2:43 PM | Link to this

I have not lied Jackson. In your typical style you twist the truth. When I made those postings I believed that is what would happen. How many times have you lied?

You are the liar. You DELIBERATELY manipulate the truth as to deceive. I suggest you go to Dictionary.com and look up the definition.

Tell which Kemp/Cagle staffer are you and which one is John Galt?

John, It is pretty assinine to think Reed’s campaign manager would be supporting Kemp. It was a hard fought dirty campaign and I really don’t see any Reed staffer supporting one of Joel’s clients. Cagle and Kemp share the same campaign consultant. Really pathetic attempt at lying.

By Philly

August 2, 2006 2:54 PM | Link to this

Jackson, you are lying. Tell me did yo even go to school You should know that the definition of a lie is.

By your definition we all tell lies all the time. If I tell my wife I will be home at 5:00 pm and don’t make it then by your definition I told a lie.

A lie is an attempt to deceive like you are doing. You are the liar not Debbie.

I also notice you supporting Stephens as well as Kemp. And you were a stauch supporter of Cagle’s. Are you a member of the Senate Mafia by chance or work for a Senator. Or maybe just work for Cagle or Kemp. I have noticed the connection….

By BEN

August 2, 2006 3:17 PM | Link to this

Debbie, you are freakin CRAZY!! It is true what people have said about you. And yes Reed’s Campaign Manager is supporting Kemp, and yes he did send an email. I know this is hard for ya’ll to believe, but Kemp does have a lot of Reed’s supporters with him.

By Philly

August 2, 2006 3:26 PM | Link to this

Ben, you are the one that is crazy and your writing style is similar to that Brian Laurens twirp. You are A LOT alike.

I think Debbie is wonderful.

It sure is funny that no Reed supporter I have spoken with has received that email.

You guys can just copy and paste the email that was sent out into this blog.

I don’t believe you for a minute. Most Reed supporters that I know are supporting Black.

By John Galt

August 2, 2006 3:26 PM | Link to this

Hey Debbie, Philly, and Reagan Conservative! Here’s Jared Thomas’ email urging Reed supporters for vote for Brian Kemp. Suck on it. Who’s the liar now … idiots.

Dear Republican Voter,

I am writing this letter today on behalf of my good friend, Senator Brian Kemp. I have known Brian and his family for years and had the pleasure of running his first campaign for state Senate in 2002. Winning this race was no small achievment and all of the credit goes to the candidate. Brian is a hard working, intelligent candidate who has a real passion for public service. His candidacy for Senate was born out of the frustration that he felt with the current representation. He signed up to run against a Democrat that the pundits said could not be beat. The district was dominated by Clarke County, the only county in Georgia to vote for Michael Dukakis against George HW Bush in 1988. This is not a place that elects just any Republican!

Brian won that race the old fashioned way. He reached more voters with a positive message and sent a liberal trial lawyer home. Just two years later, the Democrats threw the kitchen sink at him trying to take back the seat. Once again, Brian defied the odds and won.

Brian is running for Agriculture Commissioner for the same reason he ran for the Senate. He does not believe in the current leadership and knows that he has something more to offer. He has presented a bold plan that will not only save Georgians’ tax dollars, but help keep us safe from the threat of attacks on our natural resources. I know Brian’s opponent and believe him to be a good man. This letter is not to say anything negative about him, simply to provide a testimony to the man I have seen in action for years.

Brian has my support and my vote.

Jared S. Thomas

By Philly

August 2, 2006 3:27 PM | Link to this

I also know that Virginia Galloway is NOT supporting Kemp so that is another lie.

By John Galt

August 2, 2006 3:28 PM | Link to this

Debbie, being wrong has a bitter taste, doesn’t it? I bet you were pretty certain I was lying, weren’t you? Or maybe you were just between 10-15% sure I was lying.

By Philly

August 2, 2006 3:30 PM | Link to this

Jared is alone. Most Reed people are supporting Black including Reed county chairman.

I notice he did not mention his position as Reed Chairman. That is a sign that the overwhelming majority of Reed people do not support Kemp. And the fact the email did not go out to Reed supporters…

By Debbie

August 2, 2006 3:36 PM | Link to this

John, I know how most Reed supporters feel about the race. It was hard to believe Jared would break ranks and support Kemp. He ran Kemp’s first campaign and is supporting him out of loyalty.

Show me proof that Virginia Galloway supports Kemp as you guys said. I spoke to her a few weeks ago and she was supporting Black.

Gary has support from conservatives, moderates and the Ag community.

He will win. Handel will win.

I was wrong about the Lt. Governor’s race but I do not think I am wrong about this race.

By Tony

August 2, 2006 3:48 PM | Link to this

Debbie,

Just face it. Very little you say has any substance, truth or merit to it. When did Gary live in DeKalb? And I still haven’t had the explanation of his contributions to Democrats and votes for Democrats.

You’re always quick to think there’s some conspiracy and everyone is a campaign employee. Fortunately not everyone thinks like you. I find it humorous that one minute you all insist that Jared would NEVER support Kemp and suddenly it’s out of loyalty. You nuts can spin every time. At this point would Jared really want to mention he was affiliated with the Reed campaign? There are a few people with ethics who don’t try using positions in one area to influence others in another area. I’m seeing quite a few names come over and endorse Kemp. The other opponents and even Jared.

And Philly, enough with the Senate Mafia crap. It can easily be flipped that there’s a Congressional Cabal pushing Black…but let me guess…double standards are OK for your people right?

By jackson

August 2, 2006 3:55 PM | Link to this

Debbie at 2:43 “John, It is pretty assinine to think Reed’s campaign manager would be supporting Kemp.”

Debbie at 3:36 “It was hard to believe Jared would break ranks and support Kemp. He ran Kemp’s first campaign and is supporting him out of loyalty.”

Debbie, your words speak for themselves. You speak before thinking. You Lie. You attack others will silly and childish name calling. You did it for Reed in the primary. You would think after getting your A** handed to you, you would learn not to be so vindictive and petty.

Oh, and FYI, do you really think Cagle is supporting Stephens when the two hate each other?

By jackson

August 2, 2006 3:57 PM | Link to this

Debbie at 1:31 “You are telling an outright lie John Galt about Jared Thomas, Reed’s campaign manager, asking people to vote for Kemp. That did not happen. You are pathethic.”

It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.

By Tony

August 2, 2006 4:12 PM | Link to this

Jackson,

Amazing we have to do little work to show so much….Debbie & Co. make it all too easy…sit back and watch. To quote an old Old Milwaukee beer commercial - “It doesn’t get any better than this!”

By Jack S

August 2, 2006 4:42 PM | Link to this

For about the 10,000th time over the last several months - debbie is a moron. to be matched only by philly.

Lord people you prove the proverb that its better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you’re a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

I was supporting Kemp and still am, but every single post these crazy women post confirms that Kemp is the right choice.

By Brian Kemp

August 2, 2006 4:48 PM | Link to this

I suggest that all of you watch PBS at 7:00 tonight. I am going to make an idiot out myself and I think you all will feel stupid.

By TiftDawg

August 2, 2006 4:52 PM | Link to this

This is pathetic.

The mudslinging is coming from both sides of the debate, and it is equally disgusting from both directions. And I guess that I am out of the loop, but I don’t know what in heaven’s name Cagle and Reed have to do with this.

I have read this entire blog and I note one FACT- if you ignore the childish rock throwing, and consider only the mature observations, I cannot find one Kemp supporter who has made a case that he is the superior candidate. Gary has been called a lot of names, but no one has taken the high road and managed to present Kemp as a mature, superior candidate.

By Tony

August 2, 2006 5:09 PM | Link to this

Cute. I guess that sleaze just posted is probably rewarded by Debbie and Philly. They LOVE sleaze from their side but slam it coming from anyone else.

By jackson

August 2, 2006 5:12 PM | Link to this

You’re right tiftdawg, i didnt present anything compelling on Kemp. Are you reading the same blog?

By Dale

August 2, 2006 5:39 PM | Link to this

TiftDawg, I dont’t think that you can read or either you are completely stupid.

By Gary Black

August 2, 2006 5:46 PM | Link to this

Hello, please vote for me, I am an idiot and a loser. I voted for John Kerry in the 2004 Democrat Presidential Preference Primary and have made my living as a special interest lobbyist just like Jack Abramoff. I ask fir your vote.

By Gary Black

August 2, 2006 5:48 PM | Link to this

Hello, please vote for me, I am a liberal democrat. I voted for John Kerry in the 2004 Democrat Presidential Preference Primary and have made my living as a special interest lobbyist just like Jack Abramoff. I ask fir your vote. I love heifers and my agriculture teenagers.

By fred

August 2, 2006 5:53 PM | Link to this

The fact that all of the vitriolic Ralph Reed supporters back Gary Black just cost Gary Black a vote.

By Jimbo

August 2, 2006 7:16 PM | Link to this

I am a Reed supporter and decided to support Gary Black today. You Kemp people are just like the Cagle supporters. You do nothing but attack.

As for Debbie not believing it about Jared supporting Kemp, why on earth believe anything you clowns say? I would not have believed it either. Most Reed supporters I know are voting for Gary. I figured why not join the crowd because of the way you hate filled Kemp supporters just attack and attack. You just hurl insults hoping Debbie will stop posting and you are wasting your time. You are the ones hurting your candidate not Debbie.

I still don’t see evidence from you clowns that Virginia Galloway supports Kemp. You made that statement as well. Where is the beef? Let’s see proof.

That is one Debbie is right about. I also noticed that Jared did not ask anyone to vote for Brian. He just said he was and why. I find that strange. It was almost like it was out of obligation.

By Jimbo

August 2, 2006 7:19 PM | Link to this

Jackson, you are the worst. If you make a statement and believe it to be true then it is not a lie. But you know that. You just want to attack and it does not matter to you if it is true or not. You digust me. I bet you are henpecked at home and that is why you like to try to push people around that don’t agree with you. Jackson, just ask your wife if you can be the boss for a change, don’t take it out on everyone else.

By Jimbo

August 2, 2006 7:26 PM | Link to this

Tony, I gree with the other’s assessment of you. Stop being a hypocrite. You have not explained Kemp voting in the Democratic Primary. And you think it is ok for Cagle to donate money to Democrat Mark Taylor . You did not have a problem with Cagle supporters refusing to support Reed if he won just a problem with Reed supporters not supporting Cagle. The list goes on and on.

Black was a lobbyist. Lobbyists donate money. Business is business.

By sumter

August 2, 2006 7:37 PM | Link to this

I hope that all of the Kemp supporters watched tonight’s debate. Who is laughing now?

By jackson

August 2, 2006 7:38 PM | Link to this

—-“If you make a statement and believe it to be true then it is not a lie.”—-

How can you believe some prediction in the future is true? When you say it as fact and attack people that dont believe you, what is it then, Jimbo? Debbie completely lied within postings IN ONE HOUR. When is a lie a lie? Is it when you say you will give someone a steak dinner, then don’t? What qualifies as a lie?

What’s worse, is when someone tells the truth, you call them a liar. When its proven that you are wrong, you dont apologize you continue to justify your behavior. Typical.

How is showing someone there own words pushing somone around? they are the words debbie said. You need to deal with it.

And, as far as personal insults, I have have not insulted Gary Black or Handel on this. i dont agree with them (mostly black, not so much Handel). You need to stop taking everything so personal and hating people, and trashing them when they dont support your candidate. It is ridiculous.

As far as my wife goes, trust me, weather she’s the boss or not doesnt bother me none. She is beautiful, raises our child well, makes me dinner, and cleans our house. And she is honest, which is more than I can say for your wife Debbie.

By Chad

August 2, 2006 7:41 PM | Link to this

Jack S-Abe Lincoln said that, it’s not an ancient Proverb. But thank you for demonstrating the truth of it.

By Chad

August 2, 2006 7:44 PM | Link to this

Jackson-did you watch the political debate tonight?

By Jimbo

August 2, 2006 7:54 PM | Link to this

Jackson, I am still happy. In other words I am not married.

According to you there are a lot of liars going around then. For example, if you tell you wife yes maam I will be in bed in 30 minutes and are late then you lied. There are a lot of liars on Peach Pundit too. Everyone does the same thing. You are digusting and just want to attack anyone that does not agree with you.

You are making yourself look foolish with this liar thing. Get back on your meds or ask your doctor to increase them. You are losing it.

I was undecided about the Ag race until today. You Kemp supporters and Debbie helped make my mind up for me. The Black supporters gave concise reasons why their candidate was the best man. You Kemp people just went on the attack.

You may not have attacked Black but you attacked Debbie and other Black supporters.

By jackson

August 2, 2006 8:01 PM | Link to this

Funny. Again, how are using someones own words attacking them?

You and Debbie really make me laugh. You call people liars when they tell the truth (that is, about actual things that happened, not what “they think” will happen) and when you are proven wrong, you justify your behavior instead of admitting you are wrong.It’s like dealing with teenagers.

So Debbie never lied. She never said Reed would win by 15-20 pts multiple times. She never said W was coming in for Ralph. She never said that Reed was leading in fundraising. She never said that it was assinine to assume that Jared Guy was supporting Kemp, and then never turned around and hour later said it was expected that he would support kemp. It’s all made up. It’s all a conspiracy. Its all OTHERS attacking her.

Pathetic.

By fred

August 2, 2006 8:10 PM | Link to this

Jackson-You only think that they are liars because you can neither accept the truth nor the idea that you might be wrong. I think that if you realize that you are the problem that this whole blog has gone haywire then maybe you will stop commenting and let the ones that really care discuss this. YOU are pathetic

By TiftDawg

August 2, 2006 9:18 PM | Link to this

Tony, Jackson & Dale-

I dislike the “sleaze” from both sides, and if you participated, your comments become irrelevant as far as I am concerned.

I stand by my statement that no grown-up has made a case for Kemp being most qualified.

Now, call me another name and insult me some more. You- as well as Debbie- have sullied this blog.

By Jimbo

August 2, 2006 9:24 PM | Link to this

I am a clown who does nothing but call other people clowns. I’m childish with name calling and can think of nothing on my own so I will repeat what others like me say. I have no problem with Gary who gave to Democrats and voted several times for Democrats. But then I will turn around and say Cagle was the complete scum of the earth for donating to one Democrat. I have no problem with a repeat Democratic voter pretending to be a Republican. That hypocrisy is quite fine with me. I have no problem with Black people coming on here and somehow making this all about Cagle. I have no problem with Black supporters making this blog pathetic. So I will then blame Kemp supporters for the sleaze and then vote for Black because his people can do nothing wrong. I will continue name calling and insulting Kempt people while at the same time accusing Kempt people of being sleazy for name calling. I am a hypocrite. Vote Gary Black.

By TiftDawg

August 2, 2006 9:42 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Jimbo, for helping to make my point.

By Jimbo

August 3, 2006 8:37 AM | Link to this

Tiftdawg, I am the one that started posting as Jimbo in the thread yesterday. I did not post the one at 9:24 pm. Some Kemp supporter like Brian Laurens probably posted that. Brian is 24 years old but has the maturity level of a 5 year old.

I will admit that I attacked, too. But the problem is most Kemp supporters like Jackson don’t want serious debate on the issues. They just like to attack the candidate or the candidate’s supporters. After a while, you get tired of it and start responding back in like form. Jackson likes to attack but doesn’t want to be attacked.

For background on Jackson, John Galt, Brian Laurens (Ben), I suggest you check out :

www.peachpundit.com

By jimbo

August 3, 2006 8:47 AM | Link to this

Tiftdawg, if you had bother to read you will see Jackson started his attacks first on Debbie and Philly first.

By jackson

August 2, 2006 09:05 AM Debbie/Philly: I try not to respond much to your lunatic rants. Debbie told everyone on peach pundit that she had “complete faith in the republican primary voter to choose the nominee.� She continues to lie, and frankly, realize that her support of republicans is based on solely if her candidate wins a primary. It’s OKAY to trash your opponent, but only if you win, right debbie? Pathetic. BTW, I am still waiting for the steak dinner you promised everyone when Ralph lost.

Jackson, why should Debbie apologize? Do you apologize? Here is whate Debbie said about the Thomas letter,”You are telling an outright lie John Galt about Jared Thomas, Reed’s campaign manager, asking people to vote for Kemp. That did not happen. You are pathethic.

Tell me Jackson, please point out in that letter where Thomas asked that you vote for Kemp. He just states his reasons and that he is voting for Kemp. It is like out of obligation.

By Jimbo

August 3, 2006 8:48 AM | Link to this

Who is lying now Jackson? You are that is who.