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By Debbie

July 12, 2006 11:37 AM | Link to this

From Peach Pundit:

On the Strategic Vision Poll, I didn’t realize it was conducted on a Friday through Sunday. I don’t believe polls that are taken during that time. It’s too hard to get a good cross section of people over the weekend — especially the weekend after the 4th when a lot of people are returning home.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 11:47 AM | Link to this

That is conjecture. The polls still pull from a universe of Republicans. They poll until they hit their numbers. If that line of thinking was true you’d have to wonder if Reed’s rich supporters were out on their yachts while Cagle’s people were too poor to go anywhere.

Nice try Debbie. Again quoting others instead of thinking for yourself gets you nowhere.

By Billy

July 12, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

I read about this when the Abramoff scandal broke.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060220/berman

By Jack S

July 12, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

I’m a Cagle supporter, but I decided I had to verify this latest attack. I read all the press reports and looked at the mailer Ralph did.

Everything Cagle is saying 100% true.

And Ralph attacks casey saying his bank profited from a bill casey voted on - to provide mortgage fraud protection for consumers.

the difference here is clear. Ralph is a damn liar and Cagle is pointing that out for the whole world to see.

The truth hurts.

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

www.reedfacts.com

Tony, I have full confidence Reed will win and will be gloating on this blog July 19th. The question is will you be on here?

The polls were taken before the Zell phone calls went out and before Reed’s latest ad. No brainer.

By Philly

July 12, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

Jack s, you are a Cagle operative that I have seen post on Peach Pundit. Do you really think the current Governor of Alabama would actually support something like forced abortions and slave labor? Gee, Alabama is a more conservative state than Georgia is. I think Judge Roy Moore would have mentioned that in his campaign against Riley for the the GOP nomination. Moore did not because he is a man of honor unlike Cagle.

I verified or tried to verify Cagle’s latest attack and it was false.

Jack

By Philly

July 12, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

Jack s, you are a Cagle operative that I have seen post on Peach Pundit. Do you really think the current Governor of Alabama would actually support something like forced abortions and slave labor? Gee, Alabama is a more conservative state than Georgia is. I think Judge Roy Moore would have mentioned that in his campaign against Riley for the the GOP nomination. Moore did not because he is a man of honor unlike Cagle.

I verified or tried to verify Cagle’s latest attack and it was false.

Jack

By Philly

July 12, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Jack s, you are a Cagle operative that I have seen post on Peach Pundit. Do you really think the current Governor of Alabama would actually support something like forced abortions and slave labor? Gee, Alabama is a more conservative state than Georgia is. I think Judge Roy Moore would have mentioned that in his campaign against Riley for the the GOP nomination. Moore did not because he is a man of honor unlike Cagle.

I verified or tried to verify Cagle’s latest attack and it was false.

Jack

By Tony

July 12, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Philly,

Go easy on the keyboard….Reed supporters getting angry…

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

Jack S, Cagle made his fortune while he was a Senator serving on the Banking committee. He increased his wealth 900% in four years. Cagle went from renting tuxedos to bank president in that same time frame.

Reed was in private enterprise.

Cagle is such a sleazy liar. He is insulting the intelligence of Republican voters. He expects voters to believe that GOP Gov. Bob Riley and Ralph Reed support forced abortions and slave labor. What a outright lie!!

By betinick

July 12, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this

Ralph Reed’s involvement in Alabama politics is unbelievable as he fought hard against the immoral lottery in Alabama also opposed by now Governor Bob Riley—yet he supports the immoral lottery in Gerogia! Yes he supported Riley’s vote while in Congress which protected sweatshop labor, child prostitution and abortion! child in the Marianas. What an un-Christian leader Ralph Reed truly is!

The people of Alabama have Reed figured out. His former supporters in Alabama are seeking forgiveness for their support of him!

By Tony

July 12, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

And the polls were taken before the last round of ads and mailers from Cagle that really put Reed in the doghouse AND the fact that Reed is seriously dropping in money and slipping in poll numbers. People are beginning to doubt Reed. His reputation is slowly being eroded by his past dealings. He can’t have it both ways. Either he knew and lied or sold out OR he’s just that stupid of a businessman. Like I said, I don’t think he’s dumb in that sense. he just flat out sold out on his principles and his followers are left holding an empty bag. Look at the emerging poll numbers Debbie. Look at the money. Take away Ralph’s loan and out of state money and he’s nothing.

But I don’t doubt you one minute on Reed having more punch left. He’s never been a devout Christian coming down the stretch. It seems that sleaze you always scream about with Cagle will be child’s play compared to “Turn the Other Cheek” Reed over the next few days. We’ll see Ralph’s true morals…as if we haven’t seen enough already.

By John C. Fremont

July 12, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

I thought “Chatty Cathy” DEBBIE had been silenced by the Reed organization. But there goes that same ole chain of hers. Debbie—become a Democrat—you are a liability to the Republican Party.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Renting tuxedos Debbie? How trashy can you be? You practice your master’s sleaze so well. Let me guess….you’re one of the evangelicals supporting Reed? Or are you just that low you insult people’s beginnings? Try being honest with yourself and with everyone else and say that Cagle bought a tux shop at the age of 20 and then sold it later. Quite an honest entrepeneur. Someone who saved, worked hard, and EARNED what he made instead of exploiting and lying for millions. Debbie condones Reed’s behavior and practices his methods of slander, deceit, and lies.

By debbie

July 12, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

betinick, typical Cagle distortions. The Alabama lottery was rife with corruption and was pushed by Gov. Don Siegleman who just recently was found guilty by a federal grand jury. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Siegelman

Reed said Georgia’s lotterty was a settled issue.

You are wrong about the people of Alabama. They still support Reed. The Alabama Christian Coalition even wrote Reed a letter in support. If you care to read it go to: http://www.reedfacts.com

I used to live in Alabama and still have family and friends there and I can tell you are wrong about the Christian Coalition in Alabama not supporting Reed.

By Jim's a Dummy

July 12, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

Ya’ll are all insane.

Politicians are all prostitutes. Calling one sleazy while backing the other is just plain stupid.

Regardless of sex, race or party affiliation, all of them are corruptable and will support c** fighting in the Mariana islands if that’s what it takes to get the money to produce and run the ads that their opponent as sleazy.

What a joke this all is.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

So you’re saying Ralph will support something as long as it’s settled? Roe v. Wade? Gambling is a sin, but if it’s a settled sin, it’s ok?

Debbie, keep posting that one year old letter from AL CC. Instead of referencing a year old letter from two really close friends of Ralph, I’ve talked to some of the membership over there. It seems there is a feeling within the membership that the more truth that comes out about Reed the sleazier he looks.

By dumbfounded

July 12, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

How can Reed complain about anything being “beyond the pale” after Governor Perdoofus made a video portraying the previous governor as a rat?

By Thomas Tonsor

July 12, 2006 12:41 PM | Link to this

I’ve talked to several Republican friends at my office who have been pretty neutral until now. I’ve had three people tell me they have been turned off by the Cagle attacks and will now vote for Reed because Cagle seems over the top. He just can’t move on to some real issues that impact Georgians.

I think Cagle needs to tell us what he thinks and what he believes instead of always attacking Reed. I plan to vot for Reed.

By War Eagle

July 12, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

Never trust anyone who is always running around proclaiming to be a “Christian.” Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, etc. They say one thing and do another. Forcing one’s religious beliefs on another is wrong! The problems that need to be fixed are: 1. Kicking the illegals out of GA so they will stop dumbing down our schools and stop using our emergency rooms as their doc in the box. 2. Stop development so that our infrastructure will survive. 3. Stop shoving anti abortion messages down our throats. You want a kid-go have one. 4. Stop eminenent domain mis use-we don’t need another bank, wal mart, office building, CVS or apartment complex going up-we have enough. 5. Eliminate ad valorem taxes! Need more money-raise the sales tax. 6. Generic drug prescription program 7. Bio fuels. And 8.Keeping the HOPE scholarship alive so kids with B averages can get into a good GA school.

By Bob

July 12, 2006 1:02 PM | Link to this

Several people I work with and some family of mine who were waiting to decide are all saying that all of the evidence is piling up against Reed. Instead of explaining his actions all a self-professed Christian like Reed can do is attack back. Everyone I’ve talked to sees little substance to Reed’s campaign or his rebuttals. The trend I see is either NOT voting or voting for the lesser of two evils in Cagle.

By disgusted republican

July 12, 2006 1:03 PM | Link to this

I posted before that my church would sue REED. It has happened. Reed is a crook.

By BahamaBoy

July 12, 2006 1:06 PM | Link to this

Debbie “900 percent! 900 percent! 900 percent!” is so woefully clueless about Alabama Christians.

Go ask them to send us a fresh letter about Ralph now that the Abramoff revelations are out for all to see. Make sure they reference being pawns in Reed’s highstakes game of killing one casino idea to protect the gaming advantage of another.

Come on, Little Debbie. Bring us some fresh support for Ralph from Alabama.

And, by the way, Siegelman was convicted in something totally unrelated to the lottery and Reed. Nice try, though.

By Shannon

July 12, 2006 1:13 PM | Link to this

Trying to choose between Reed and Cagle is like trying to choose between having herpes or genital warts. I have never seen the state of politics in Georgia and in the US as pathetic and hopeless as it is now. What an embarrassment!

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 1:13 PM | Link to this

John Freemont please point out to me where I said I was voting Democrat. Another lie from the Cagle Camp.

By judy wilson

July 12, 2006 1:16 PM | Link to this

Who wants to vote for a man that admitted he committed fraud?

By Eric

July 12, 2006 1:18 PM | Link to this

Between Purdue, Reed, Cagle, McKinney… Georgia politics is a LAUGHING stock

and I grew up in S.C. where they sent Strom Thrumond’s corpse to D.C. over and over… so that is REALLY saying something.

Shakespeare was wrong… don’t kill all the lawyers, kill all the politicians

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 1:19 PM | Link to this

Bahama boy, another lie from the Cagle Camp. Put up or shut up. I have produced a letter to back up what I have said. Can you produce any facts to back up what you have alleged?

I attended a funeral in Alabama last month of a former Republican National Committeewoman. This woman was on a first name basis with the current President and Bush 41. I saw Christian Conservatives at the funeral. None had anything bad to say about Reed.

By An independent-thinker

July 12, 2006 1:19 PM | Link to this

Hey, if it walks with a duck, talks with a duck, associates with a duck, and does not deny documented claims created by the association with the duck, then it might not be a duck, but it definitely is the lover of the same things the duck loves.

Reed has / is violating a basic rule of Christianity - AVOID the appearance of evil.

Reed supporters who don’t get this should really think about their true values: will you be voting for the man or the position?

Cagle just seems like the lesser of the two evils (at this time).

By Billy

July 12, 2006 1:30 PM | Link to this

Trying to choose between Reed and Cagle is like trying to choose between having herpes or genital warts. I have never seen the state of politics in Georgia and in the US as pathetic and hopeless as it is now. What an embarrassment!

I agree. I guess we’d all better vote for the Democrats. That’ll show em!

By Shar

July 12, 2006 1:32 PM | Link to this

Now that Mr. Reed is being sued in civil court for fraud and racketeering in connection with his joint activities with Mr. Abramoff in shutting down the Alabama-Coushatta tribe’s casino business in favor of their patrons among the Louisiana Coushatta, I wonder if, even if Mr. Reed gains the nomination, how effective a campaigner or public servant he can be while defending himself on such serious charges. I also wonder what effect the deeply emotional, character-driven response among the posters to this site will have on the likelihood of Republican voters turning out in November. Perhaps the polarization we see in these posts will lead like-minded Republican voters, especially in the absence of rabble rousing issues like gay marriage, to not bother to support the Republican candidate should their preferred person lose in the primary. Debbie, Tony, Philly - will you vote for ‘the other guy’ in November should you find yourself on the short end next week? Just interested…

By BahamaBoy

July 12, 2006 1:34 PM | Link to this

Debbie says: “Reed has / is violating a basic rule of Christianity - AVOID the appearance of evil.”

I don’t know what to make of that line, but I will assume she means Reed wants to avoid the appearance of evil, or as we say in the legal profession, avoid even the appearance of impropriety.

Well, if that’s what Ralphie’s motto is he sure hasn’t lived up to it. I have a photo with Ralph standing in a group about to board a private jet headed for Scotland. Four of the men are now convicted criminals; two have since resigned from working for Rep. Bob Ney; and Ney himself is headed for the criminal docket. I guess Ralph show have checked the plane’s manifest before he boarded it.

But like yesterday’s AJC editorial cartoon put it, Ralph just doesn’t want to know where the [tooth fairy’s] money came from.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 1:34 PM | Link to this

Debbie,

You taking polls at funerals? Asking people in AL about Reed while they mourn for a loss? Classy. Reed’s minions know no bounds.

By Shannon

July 12, 2006 1:34 PM | Link to this

If only the Dems had somebody decent to put up against them. Choose between Fat B%stard and Horseface? Please, they’re nearly as bad.

By BahamaBoy

July 12, 2006 1:36 PM | Link to this

Texas Tribe Names Abramoff, Reed in Suit

By SUZANNE GAMBOA The Associated Press Wednesday, July 12, 2006; 12:04 PM

WASHINGTON — A Texas Indian tribe filed a federal civil suit Wednesday alleging that ex-lobbyist Jack Abramoff, former Christian Coalition leader Ralph Reed and their associates engaged in fraud and racketeering to shut down the tribe’s casino.

The Alabama-Coushatta tribe of Livingston, Texas, alleged the defendants defrauded the tribe, the people of Texas and the Legislature to benefit another of Abramoff’s clients, the Louisiana Coushatta tribe, and “line their pockets with money.”

“Ultimately, the defendants’ greed and corruption led to the Alabama-Coushatta tribe permanently shutting its casino. The funding for economic programs evaporated, over 300 jobs were lost in Polk County and the Alabama-Coushatta tribe has spent years struggling to recover and revitalize its economy through other means,” the tribe said in its lawsuit, obtained by The Associated Press.

The lawsuit also names Abramoff’s ex-business partner Michael Scanlon, a former aide to former Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas; Neil Volz, a former aide to Rep. Bob Ney, R-Ohio; and Jon Van Horne, Abramoff’s former colleague at his law and lobbying firm, Greenberg Traurig.

Although the tribe alleges Greenberg Traurig was part of the scheme, it did not name the firm as a defendant. Attorney Fred Petti said the tribe is in settlement discussions with the firm.

The tribe did not specify how much it was seeking, but asked for triple damages.

Abramoff, Scanlon and Volz have pleaded guilty in a public corruption probe involving Abramoff’s former tribal clients and possibly members of Congress. The Alabama-Coushatta never hired Abramoff.

The Alabama-Coushatta’s casino, on its reservation north of Houston, was closed in 2002 by a federal court ruling in a 1999 lawsuit filed by the state’s then attorney general, John Cornyn, now a U.S. senator.

The Alabama-Coushatta said Abramoff and others conspired to defeat a bill in the 2001 Legislature that would have allowed it to operate gaming on its reservation. Reed helped to rally Christians against the bill with a group he formed, Committee Against Gambling, the tribe alleged.

The tribe, which says it has strong Christian values, alleges Reed’s group called state legislators, sent targeted mailings to voters and ran radio ads against the bill without revealing their true origins, preventing the tribe from fighting back.

Reed’s work made the opposition to the tribe’s casino appear to be based on Christian concerns, not competitive concerns from its sister tribe, the Alabama-Coushatta said.

Had the public or tribe known the Louisiana Coushatta tribe was the main opponent, Christian groups would have been “less mobilized.” Because the Texas and Louisiana tribes share family ties, Louisiana Coushatta members would have opposed the attack on their sister tribe, the Alabama-Coushatta said.

“They pitted Christian against Christian, tribe against tribe and cousin against cousin,” the tribe said.

The tribe also alleges that Abramoff fraudulently bilked it of $50,000 and used it to “bribe” Ney with a golfing trip to Scotland in exchange for “fixing” its gaming problem. In his guilty plea, Abramoff said Ney accepted the trip knowing the tribal clients paid for the trip. Ney has repeatedly said he is innocent of wrongdoing.

The suit was filed in the U.S. District Court’s western district of Texas in Austin.

By CobbGOPer

July 12, 2006 1:43 PM | Link to this

And now the AP reports Ralphie is being sued by the Alabama-Coushatta Indian Tribe (strangely enough, located in Texas…) over the closure of their casino.

Jobs lost, local economy in shambles. Not a good image to portray.

And the kicker is this: the tribe has expressed that they are all Christians and adhere to Christian values.

So thanks, Ralph, for putting good Christian brothers and sisters in the poor house.

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 1:49 PM | Link to this

Both Reed and Cagle have similar beliefs on issues. The big difference comes in leadership style.

Cagle’s leadership style is like Sen. John McCain. He does not like to make anyone angry or makes waves. People generally like him, even liberals. He often compromises in order to avoid confrontation. He often buckles under pressure. If you like that style then you need to vote for Casey Cagle.

Reed’s leadership style is most like Reagans. Reagan stood strong in his convictions and would not waver. Remember how he was criticized when he stood at the Berlin Wall and told Gorbechev to tear this wall down? Remember how he was criticized when he walked away from the bargaining table with the Russians? Remember how the liberals constantly attacked Reagan and tried to find ways to destroy him? When Reagan first came on the scene, the GOP establishment said he was too controversial and would hurt the party. Reagan was not embrassed by the establishment until he prove to them he was right. Reed has Reagan’s leadership style.

Compare the vision of both Cagle and Reed.

http://www.ralphreed.com/v2/inthenews.asp Lok at the following links:

Strengthen Georgia Families, Communities and Values

A Safer and More Secure Georgia

A Vision for a Healthy Georgia

“Moving Georgia Forward”

The Grow Georgia Plan

“Putting Children First”

Casey Cagle

http://www.caseycagle.com/vision.cfm

By BahamaBoy

July 12, 2006 1:51 PM | Link to this

Funny how when Ralph get sued, Debbie begins talking up Reagan.

By BahamaBoy

July 12, 2006 1:52 PM | Link to this

Debbie, please explain away the Indian tribe’s lawsuit. Inquiring minds want to know.

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 1:53 PM | Link to this

Reed did his job and they are trying to capitalize on the publicity Reed is getting.

No allegations of anything illegal done. Anyone can file a lawsuit.

The Cagle Campaigns have run ads that have outright lied and distortions. The elected officials that endorsed him are also responsible for the type of campaign he has run. They rubber stamped it when they endorsed Cagle so the Reed supporters in thier area should be outraged at them as well and I can tell you they are.

By Rod

July 12, 2006 1:57 PM | Link to this

The dirty politics being thrown about by Cagle, Reed and their supporters show that none of them are honorable enough to actually win the election. Voters are learning they’re both unscrupulous candidates. The primary doesn’t matter: the Democratic candidate is the obvious choice - and I don’t even know who it is.

All the Republican party has done here is run a pathetic and unethical race. Neither man is worthy of my spit. All of you “supporters” are pathetic examples of human beings as well.

By Trymeon

July 12, 2006 2:01 PM | Link to this

Well, I didn’t know who I would vote for - Cagle or Reed. But having just read the AJC’s endorsement of Cagle, I’ve decided… Reed’s the man!

Thanks AlJaz for making up my mind for me once again!

By Rod

July 12, 2006 2:01 PM | Link to this

Hey War Eagle, what a stupid comment you made! Lumping all Christians as bad because you don’t like a few politicians? By the way, Jimmy Carter is a VERY honorable Christian and man. He has more character in his pinkie than you have in your entire body. His presidency may have been week, but how dare you question his Christian beliefs.

God will judge you soon enough.

By BahamaBoy

July 12, 2006 2:04 PM | Link to this

Debbie says: “Reed did his job and they are trying to capitalize on the publicity Reed is getting.”

Wow! That’s a stretch. I’ve spoken to the law firm that filed the suit in Austin today and will soon have a copy of it in hand. The publicty Reed is getting has all been negative, Debbie, so I’m at a loss to understand your logic.

Can’t believe I just wrote that last line!

By Chopdawg

July 12, 2006 2:07 PM | Link to this

Shannon hit the nail on the head! People like Ralph Reed and Roy Moore will have us all bowing down to plaques of the Ten Commandments, bought & paid for by tax dollars and posted in county courthouses all over the Southeast. But are their opponents any better? I was a hardcore Cathy Cox supporter, until she refused to put down Sonny’s call for a special session of the Genl Assy to fix the gay marriage amendment. None of the politicians, not one of them, will stand up & say what they’re thinking; they all have to check the polls first, see which way the wind’s blowing….

…and on the national scene: Who can possibly defend the war in Iraq, where we’ve thrown billions of dollars and thousands of lives into a worse quagmire than Vietman; while the man who carried out the worst crime against the US in history still roams free? All the Dubyites have succeeded in casting anyone who disagrees with Dubya as a traitor; but take a look at the Dems to see who they might run against Dubya in ‘08…Hillary? Dear God, John Kerry was bad enough.

If ever America was ripe for the emergence of a true third party, now’s the time. However, it probably wouldn’t matter: as long as huge sums of money are funneled into political parties, elections will continue to be won and lost based on who’s pleased the most wealthy individuals and organizations. We’ll continue to get exactly what we deserve, which is substandard leadership, on the local state and national levels.

CHOP

By RL

July 12, 2006 2:09 PM | Link to this

“A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”—Winston Churchill

I think we may have a few fanatic’s in here…

Think people… use rational thought. Stop drinking the kool-aid

By Shar

July 12, 2006 2:12 PM | Link to this

It seems to me that Debbie touched upon the crux of the matter when she said, “Reed did his job”. The definition of just what that job was eludes me. The Alabama-Coushatta allege that the job was to maintain a regional gambling monopoly for Mr. Reed’s clients, the Louisiana Coushatta, by improperly and illegally influencing the Texas election. Mr. Reed, I believe, says that he was against all gambling (except, seemingly, the Georgia Lottery) and was unaware that his efforts were being used primarily to undermine competition. Is this all a Watergate “what did he know and when did he know it’? It is my impression that email evidence indicates that Mr. Reed knew that his fees were being paid by the Louisiana Coushatta and made efforts to hide that fact. Debbie, do I have that right or is there further evidence presented? Thanks

By pillsbury doughboy

July 12, 2006 2:13 PM | Link to this

The fact that Reed is even a serious candidate in this race makes me hate the Republican Party even more.

By Political Foreskin

July 12, 2006 2:14 PM | Link to this

VOTE FOR RALPH REED

HE HAD ME AT ‘HALO’

By Tony

July 12, 2006 2:17 PM | Link to this

I’ve compared the agendas of both candidates Debbie. I see no substance with Ralph. It’s all sound bites and buzz words…sounds like focus group mumbo jumbo. Anyone can sue? Anyone can come up with catchy phrases with no substance Debbie. Anyone can recite the same old garbage over and over again. Anyone can defend a man who makes his living off of lies, deceit, manipulation, etc. and then make comments like putting people in body bags and him being like the VietCong. Sounds like a pious Christian if I’ve ever heard of one.

By Lauren

July 12, 2006 2:23 PM | Link to this

I hope Reed does win the primary. He will be indicted before November which will make the Democratic candidate a shoe-in. Perfect! I love it when Republicans support corrupt, morally vacant people. It makes the choice so much clearer for the rest of the population.

By NoAmericanTaliban

July 12, 2006 2:29 PM | Link to this

I consider myself a libertarian & strongly believe in getting gov’t out of our lives. I wouldn’t vote for Reed because of he and his cult followers want to stick their nose in places where they don’t belong. This is a very insecure, hateful, & controlling mentality. All things Jesus was not. I’m surprised they don’t have the police sniff our bed sheets every morning or have mandatory prayer/cool-aid drinking sessions for everyone.

He talks big on morals but doesn’t practice them. Too bad he decided to keep a lot of the Abramoff money for himself instead of donate it to the needy. That would have been the Christian thing to do.

By fred

July 12, 2006 2:35 PM | Link to this

Debbie has admitted there is little substantive difference between Reed and Cagle on the issues, so the matter devolves to issues of character and leadership - Reed fails on the character test - that goes without saying. On leadership, Debbie insinuates that Cagle doesn’t stand firm - that is simply not true - Cagle was one of the few State Senators to stand up to Governor Perdue and not support the governor’s proposed tax hikes back in 2003. That took a lot of guts, but Casey stood by his guns to not raise taxes. Ralph’s leadership style is best described by his own words (I paraphrase)- “I dress in black and travel at night - before my enemies know I have been there, they are in a body bag”. Boy, that is charming, and abou the most un-Reagan-like statement I have ever heard.

By GOP County Chair

July 12, 2006 2:35 PM | Link to this

I voted for Casey.

By gdawginkalamazoo

July 12, 2006 2:37 PM | Link to this

Am I mistaken, wasn’t it this Ralph Reed that had a mentor by the name of Pat Robertson? Think about that one for awhile. Then go vote.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 2:38 PM | Link to this

Quote from Debbie: “The lawsuit is silly. Is there anyone out there stupid enough to believe that Chrisitians would support a casino of any type?”

Does that apply to gambling as well? I mean after all, Ralph supports gambling doesn’t he? He’s said he would protect gambling here in GA. But didn’t he also say how evil gambling was? So which is it?

I think Ralph has been hanging out with Bob Rogers too much. Ralph’s living in the Waffle House.

By Lee south of ATL

July 12, 2006 2:39 PM | Link to this

I don’t spend much time reading this stuff, but the few times I have been on here, it seems to me that Debbie might actually be our little friend Ralphie living out his fantasies. The indian tribe mess shouldn’t surprise anyone….any person who will wrap themselves in Christianity to get ahead in politics is a sleazeball period. And that is precisely what dear little Ralphie did…. I am not even a Republican and Debbie’s little Reagan comparison offended me. That is a slap in the face to the Reagan legacy.

By joe

July 12, 2006 2:41 PM | Link to this

Ralph Reed has given us the creeps ever since he was hanging around with Pat Robertson(another bona fide wacko) years ago. He will be indicted for fraud and racketeering within a year or two for his backroom antics with those Indian tribes and Abramoff. He’s just like you read about in the papers: preaching to you about family values and Christ this and Lord that, all the while lining his pockets with ill-gotten money and eyeing your underage daughter. Do whatever you want but DON’t vote for that creep.

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 2:45 PM | Link to this

True leadership is standing your ground when your side is not in power. Cagle folded constantly in the Barnes Administration and then again there is the $ 1,000 contribtution to Taylor. Cagle voted WITH Barnes and 27 Democrats against a GOP sponsored drivers license bill. Cagle was afraid to stand up for teachers and speak out against the Barnes Education Package.

As for character, Cagle has lied again and again. Cagle used his office to become a millionaire. Reed was in private business when he made his. Cagle was supposed to be a public servant on the State Senate Banking committee when he went from renting tuxedos to bank president and increased his wealth 900% in four years.

By BahamaBoy

July 12, 2006 2:49 PM | Link to this

National Public Radio is doing a piece on Reed @ 4 PM today.

By BahamaBoy

July 12, 2006 2:51 PM | Link to this

900 percent! 900 percent! 900 percent!

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 2:52 PM | Link to this

Tony, do you get your talking points from the Cagle campaign?. Put up or shut up. When did Ralph EVER say he supported gambling in Georgia? What he said was the the lottery in Georgia was a settled matter and he would work to protect the Hope Scholarship.

Cagle has the same position so according to your logic he supports gambling right?

By Tony

July 12, 2006 2:52 PM | Link to this

There childish Debbie goes with the “renting tuxedos” comment. Grow up Debbie. You’re just jealous that he managed to buy and own his own company at the age of 20. The more I hear from you, the more you sound very socialist. Make that fascist…

By Tony

July 12, 2006 2:53 PM | Link to this

There childish Debbie goes with the “renting tuxedos” comment. Grow up Debbie. You’re just jealous that he managed to buy and own his own company at the age of 20. The more I hear from you, the more you sound very socialist. Make that fascist…

By Howard

July 12, 2006 2:55 PM | Link to this

Bahamaboy, Keep saying that number. That is Cagle’s wealth increase in four years. How many voters really believe that Cagle did not use his influence to gain that wealth? How many times has someone without a college degree go from renting tuxedos to bank president that fast ? Cagle might not have broken any laws, but he tookd advantage of the taxpayers of Georgia and used his influence to increase his wealth.

By Howard

July 12, 2006 2:57 PM | Link to this

Tony you just did the same thing you lambasted Philly for. Posting the same thing more than once. Getting upset?

By Tony

July 12, 2006 2:57 PM | Link to this

Debbie,

If he supports the HOPE Scholarship and says gambling in Georgia is settled, then he condones gambling. Simple Debbie. HE SUPPORTS GAMBLING. He says he fights gambling but then says he supports the gambling system in Georgia.

Cagle’s not the one who made millions off of telling people he was fighting gambling and how evil it was. Reed has been. but now his position changes? All because he knows how much gambling has done for Georgia. Right now you can thank a educated labor force and increased school funding for that ‘evil’. Had Reed had his way with this issue, we’d be a joke. And if I recall, wasn’t it good ol’ Zell who pushed gambling in this state? Why would Ralphie like to have Mr. GA Lotto speaking for him now?

By Kevrock

July 12, 2006 2:58 PM | Link to this

Ralph Reed is a crook and he cheats on his wife…You think he won’t screw us over just look at him…He is a dork that found religion in a “Phone Booth”, come on…

He will burn in hell worse than me…God takes NO MERCY on Hypocrites…

Those who vote for him…please don’t…you will only be screwing yourself.

NOW, Cagle is no great guy himself…He is a crook too…Just not the magnitude (YET) of Ralph Reed’s past…IT is also a matter of time until justice gets to Ralph Reed…

Do you really want your Lt. Govt to be thrown into prison on his term!?!?!?!?!

By Tony

July 12, 2006 3:00 PM | Link to this

(7/12/06) The latest InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion survey tracking Georgia’s GOP lieutenant gubernatorial primary shows little movement among undecideds but a continuing shift of voters in the direction of state Sen. Casey Cagle among those who have made up their minds.

The survey of 400 likely GOP voters conducted July 10-11, 2006, showed the following:

Cagle – 41 percent Reed - 36 percent Undecideds – 23 percent

Matt Towery, (syndicated columnist Creators and CEO of InsiderAdvantage, the owner of Southern Political Report), offered the following analysis:

“We have seen Ralph Reed losing ground since the middle of last week. As of this past Friday, the race was dead even at 37 percent each. But the trends continue to show decided voters moving from the Reed category to Cagle, while the undecided remains relatively high at 23 percent. In my experience, this high undecided percentage is to be expected when a race is projected to have an extremely low turnout.

By fred

July 12, 2006 3:01 PM | Link to this

Debbie continues to state that Cagle has lied over and over again and parrots the talking points. That is it. She will not address any of the legitimate questions about Reed’s conduct. It is over - the people of Georgia see through this and if Casey doesn’t win in the primary, Reed’s a dead man walking in the general and he hurts the governor - recent polls showed him harming the governor by as much as 8%. Simple fact is, Reed gives the Dems big ammunition on ethics issues, which will tarnish the governor as well. If Cagle wins, Perdue walks away with it - it gets a little dicey if Reed is on the undercard.

By Sandy

July 12, 2006 3:03 PM | Link to this

I don’t see how anybody can support Ralph Reed at this point. It is to wilfully put a bag on ones head.

Ralph Reed DID dupe the people of Alabama into voting against casinos in order to make Abramoff money from casino operators in other states.

Ralph Reed DID work againt labor legislation on the Marianas. They had NO immigration laws at all and brought Chinese workers in. If they got pregnant, they were fired which means they had no choice but to get abortions if they wanted to keep their jobs. They sold the products as “Made in the USA”. It ought to make your blood boil. In Mexico, women are forced to prove they’re menstruating every month in order to keep their jobs. This is what these people who fight against citizenship processes want.

Ralph Reed is scum and there’s no two ways about it.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 3:06 PM | Link to this

We’ll see how this poll is spun. Two in the past 24 hours showing Reed’s world tumbling down around him. Prepare yourself people. Reed, when cornered, will stoop to the lowest of the low to dig himself out. Casey will be found to have 666 marked on his scalp, illegals working at his banks, illegitimate children, and an altar at his campaign headquarters to Zule….I hear his top campaign staffers are the Gate Keeper and the Key Master.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 3:15 PM | Link to this

It gets quiet from the Reed people. Huddle time in Reed HQ as they turn on the spin machine (Magic 8-Ball) to see how to react next. Note every time bad news comes out against Ralph, he responds with a nasty toned ad or mailer. Here’s guessing what the next level of sleaze will be….

By gdawginkalamazoo

July 12, 2006 3:24 PM | Link to this

Tony,

Didn’t you mean to say OUIJA Boards?

By RL

July 12, 2006 3:25 PM | Link to this

How many times have we seen “Debbie” post that Cagle gave $1,000 to Taylor? Yeah “Debbie” we’ve got the talking point. The more you post it the worse you and little Ralphie look.

RALPHIE IS TOAST… get used to it “Debbie”

Hope the meeting is going well…

By wow

July 12, 2006 3:29 PM | Link to this

LORD HAVE MERCY ON MY SOUL FROM DEBBIE’S POSTINGS!!!! For that matter, have mercy on her soul too for what she posts!

Debbie, are you really Ralph Reed’s wife or his dirty little mistress? Either way, I think you doth protest too much. I have seen your name and your postings any time these articles come up and, because of that, I immediately take what you post as worth about -2 cents.

Get back to work and stop wasting your boss’s money.. that is, unless you work for Reed, which is probably the more reasonable explanation for your constant defending of that scumbag.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 3:31 PM | Link to this

Ouija boards are a little too complex for Reed HQ. But I like you’re line of thinking!

If I were a betting man, I’d take a gamble to say we’re about to see the BOMB come out soon on Cagle. I’m telling you. Ralphie is deadly when it comes to being cornered. He’s mentioned body bags before. If he sees his ship sinking, he will take down the whole show with him. You already see his minions saying they won’t vote for Cagle and other Republicans in November.

By Jim Robinson

July 12, 2006 3:33 PM | Link to this

The only thing that makes either of these two numbnuts acceptable is the two numbiernuts the Democrats are running.

By Mark Casteel

July 12, 2006 3:34 PM | Link to this

Yeah, War Eagle, you are right…George W. Bush, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Ralph Reed, Debbie…

By gdawginkalamazoo

July 12, 2006 3:36 PM | Link to this

Time for Pat Robertson to come out and make some outrageous statement about something to deflect the media attention off of his boy.

By Dear Lord

July 12, 2006 3:38 PM | Link to this

Watch out folks!! Ralph Reed is getting backed into a corner and he’s probably running scared. I bet ya money he is going to come out swinging with nastiness.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Reed puts out an attack advertisement toward Cagle saying that Cagle is really an illegal immigrant who hates old people, children and puppies, has multiple illegitimate children with a North Korean spy.

Just forseeing the future, folks! Trust no one, but especially don’t trust Reed.

By Flibberdgibbit

July 12, 2006 3:45 PM | Link to this

Don’t anyone be too quick to follow heresies like Reed, Robertson or their ilk.

A well known saying exists among theologians that even the devil can quote Scripture (Matthew 4:6).

Remember, a shepherd only leads the flock to greener pastures in order to fatten the herd for the eventual slaughter.

By David

July 12, 2006 3:45 PM | Link to this

For Ralph Reed to pretend that he has nothing to do with Abramoff is laughable & disgusting. And Cagle using Reed’s problems as “bulletts in his gun,” really does not say a lot about him. Cagle and other candidates should stick to the issues.

It would be a shame if Reed is elected. I am a Republican and a Christian.

By Bonedaddy

July 12, 2006 3:47 PM | Link to this

Anybody like Reed who talks to burning bushes scares the hell out of me. Matter of fact, Debbi, you scare the hell out of me.

By MELO

July 12, 2006 3:57 PM | Link to this

War Eagle,” Never trust anyone who is always running around proclaiming to be a “Christian.â€? Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, etc.”

Where does this put W?

Ralp Reed though is a snake, pretending to be Christian, with that smirk on his face, then fleecing his clients!! What a shameful “CHRISTIAN”

By gdawginkalamazoo

July 12, 2006 4:05 PM | Link to this

David,

I agree with most of your post, however, I do believe CHARACTER should be an issue when it comes to the people you elect.

By Harold

July 12, 2006 4:09 PM | Link to this

Everybody whose career advances based on their claim of being a Christian is actually a snake.

Voters, you are the lions! Time to rip Reed limb to limb and leave his bloody carcass for the hyenas.

By allen

July 12, 2006 4:13 PM | Link to this

Stop all the crying…You Cagle supporters have no way to explain why Mr. C gave money to democrats (1,000 to be exact) and then said he was being blackmailed….only to take it back hmmmm and then only to…..wow where does this end? hopefully on election day for the big “C”

P.S. check out the reliability and validity issue of the poll. You might be greatly disappointed (if you understand what that means — If you don’t understand, just make up something and you will be in great company with Cagle.)

Allen

By Tony

July 12, 2006 4:22 PM | Link to this

Allen,

Enlighten us ‘stoopid’ people here and school us in the reliability and validity of this poll. Tell us what the Reed HQ is passing out on talking points.

By ReedTheNewAntiChrist

July 12, 2006 4:23 PM | Link to this

Reed did his job by bankrupting the casino and laundering money for Abramoff?

Yeah — that’s who we want as Lt. Governor.

It’ll be fun watching him and his minions lose….

By james

July 12, 2006 4:32 PM | Link to this

strategic vision is not a legitimate polling outfit.

By aman

July 12, 2006 4:36 PM | Link to this

The fact that anyone would vote for Reed is shocking.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 4:37 PM | Link to this

Insider Advantage has Cagle much higher up on Reed. Are they illegitimate as well? Funny that the Ralphites were all over these polls a few weeks ago when Reed was on top. Amazing how losing causes you to flip like your master.

By aman

July 12, 2006 4:52 PM | Link to this

I went to the “in the news” section of ralphreed.com, and strangely, they do not include links to his newsworthy exploits involving casinos?!

Seriously, someone in Georgia will vote for this guy? If I still lived in GA, that would make me sad. Since I don’t anymore, i find it funny.

By Macca Dave

July 12, 2006 5:05 PM | Link to this

You can’t have an election without some kind of corrupt person running can you? Ralph Reed is as crooked as they come. He ranks up there with the Christian Coalition. It’s typical politics. Remember when Mark Taylor faced Mitch Skandalakis? He wasn’t far from jail when he lost. Here we go again. No surprises here. Reed supporters, wisen up, please!!!!!

By ren

July 12, 2006 5:11 PM | Link to this

Can’t believe it but I’ll be supporting a Democrat for Lt Gov. This race is as sickening as the Democratic gov race.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 5:15 PM | Link to this

I’m waiting for Reed’s spokeswoman to come out with a better response:

[text to be linked]http://www.sundaypaper.com/LIFE/LisaBaron/LisaBaronArchives/tabid/215/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/867/121105–Committed–My-big-cavernous-pit-of-love.aspx

By gdawginkalamazoo

July 12, 2006 5:17 PM | Link to this

This sounds worst than Kerry v. Bush and I didn’t think it could get any worst than that.

By Crossover Voter

July 12, 2006 5:25 PM | Link to this

Interesting exchanges between the Reed and Cagle camps. Is this the best best the Republicans can do? The Democrats aren’t much better, but I think I’ll vote Democratic this time around. It’s about time that the crossover voters reminded the Republicans that we expect more than mud slinging and non-issues from politicians. We like our crooked lying politicians to at least stand for SOMETHING. Oh yeah Republicans, I almost forgot. No crossovers - NO WIN!

By BahamaBoy

July 12, 2006 5:26 PM | Link to this

Reed had a chance to back out gracefully months ago and avoid most of this spectacle. But his ego got the best of him and he forged ahead throwing his Christian allies into the grinding wheel of a political campaign he simply is not destined to win. And what’s really sad is they are being ground up and they still parrot what their fearless leader assures them is the truth. Now that the real “truth” is unfolding about Reed, will they go through with it or have the good sense to let him lose at the polls?

He will be moving on come next Wednesday. My bet is Miami.

By taxpro

July 12, 2006 5:35 PM | Link to this

Don’t count Reed out..He travels under the cloak of darkness and you don’t know he is there until he has you in a body bag. (his words not mine). The latest scoop is he has a plan. Rudy Guilana, Newt Gingrich and Bob Barr are in process of having all their wives and in laws (current and Ex’s) moving into Valdosta and this will be enough people to create a new Congressional District. Pat Robertson got Gods approval for him.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 5:38 PM | Link to this

If in doubt vote Jim Martin for Lt. Governor.

By Flibberdigibbit

July 12, 2006 5:47 PM | Link to this

Eureka!!

Sadie Fields is really Ralph Reed in drag!

I always thought he was just a bit too pretty for a str8 man.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 6:00 PM | Link to this

BahamaBoy,

My guess is DC. It’s where his peeps are and the only ones left who actually will hire him.

The funny thing is that if he brings ANY big name out now, being this far down in the polls and poor fundraising, that big name would risk their own reputation. Had they all lined up last week or right after the debate, they would have appeared better. Now they all stand to look like fools along with Ralph.

Ralph will be pulling out the guerilla tactics and make Osama or Saddam’s WMD’s look like child’s play.

By Topdog

July 12, 2006 6:54 PM | Link to this

If you ask me, I think both of these guys are liars. How can anyone that call themselves southern christian back a person like reed. He reeks of dishonesty and to be mention with Abramoff is just a joke. You Reed supporters, where is your FAITH! And you call yourself christians! HA!

By Topdog

July 12, 2006 7:02 PM | Link to this

VOTING for REED is VOTING for the DEVIL!

By Macca Dave

July 12, 2006 7:08 PM | Link to this

Someone mentioned this was as bad as Bush/Kerry. The state races are definitely the same. The Democrats and Republicans have failed the public. They continue to fail to place anyone out there that is worth anyone to vote for. I have voted since the day I turned 18, and I have considered not voting as I am disheartened by the choices we have to make. We can’t concentrate on the issues, it’s all about the lesser of two evils. If we keep this up, the USA as we know it will fall just like all of the empires before us. We have already outlasted the average life of an empire. Maybe we ought to start a party of statemen, and not showboaters.

By Th

July 12, 2006 7:29 PM | Link to this

The Marianna’s Islands is as bad as it gets. They could ship goods to the US with made in the US tags tariff free, but did not have to meet any labor standards of American workers. When Reed talks about the proposed legislation, remember that it only extended our laws to people who were competing unfairly against our workers and closing our factories. Read the McCain committee report if you want to see how Reed operates.

By joewhit

July 12, 2006 7:57 PM | Link to this

I’m voting in the Republican primary for Cagle just to try and make sure Ralph Reed doesn’t get past next Tuesday. In November Jim Martin gets my vote…still not sure about the govenor’s race - but I won’t be voitng for the doofus in the Governoe’s mansion now.

By allen

July 12, 2006 8:02 PM | Link to this

tony,

There was no chi sq. function or weight of opinion stated on the survey. I really don’t think you are “stoopid” (your words) just unwilling to look at some issues in an objective fashion when they challenge your core belief system. I guess the best poll will be Tues, when Cagle will remember the rule in horse shoes….close is not good enough.

By BahamaBoy

July 12, 2006 8:23 PM | Link to this

Reed is merely hanging loose so he can muster his carefully crafted counteroffensive — the ol Roper Dope.

He’s going to come out swinging and convince all of you Cagle supporters that Cagle is a poor substitute for proven leadership and Washington connections.

George Bush and Karl Rove and coming down this weekend for a fundraiser to help Ralph out with the $500k he loaned his campaign, and they will both praise him in glowing terms at the home of Home Depot’s CEO, Bob Nardelli. John Smoltz will hand out autographed baseballs and Debbie will be serving the Kool-Aid.

Sleep well tonight Ralph. Tomorrow will be a much Bigger Day!

By Debra (In Texas)

July 12, 2006 8:30 PM | Link to this

The fact evangelical Christians in Georgia would support and vote for Ralph Reed is clear and convincing testimony of the shameless immorality of Georgia evangelical Christians. Apparently, as long as Ralph is four-square against abortion and gay marriage, he’s entitled to swindle whomever he can for as much as he can, and “good” Georgia Christians will believe the lies he tells to cover it up.

By Matt

July 12, 2006 8:31 PM | Link to this

I have a question. We all know that Ralph sold out for the megabucks. Some may think that was fine; some may think it ranks with original sin.

What I want to know is just exactly how much is Zell Miller getting to shill for the Republican Party? I mean, Ralph used to work for him when he was Lt. Gov. Is this is situation of the student becoming the master? Has Zell decided to cash in and use Ralph as the model? Or is it just senility?

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 8:38 PM | Link to this

CAGLE SIDES WITH BILL CLINTON

AND UNION BOSSES ON

WAGE AND AMNESTY BILL

Cagle’s Attack on Reed Promotes Bill Clinton-backed Wage

Legislation Granting Amnesty to Foreign Workers

U.S. territories are covered by federal health and safety laws. Cagle claims that because Ralph Reed opposed a Clinton administration wage bill, he defended the mistreatment of workers. But federal health and safety laws, including OSHA, already apply to all U.S. territories. Poor working conditions, including forced abortion and child prostitution, are illegal under current law. (Occupational Safety and Health Act, 1970)

Cagle defends Clinton plan, opposes Republican Congress. Cagle defends Clinton’s bill, H.R. 730, which imposed the federal minimum wage on the Northern Marianas. It was backed by the AFL-CIO and left-wing union bosses. It was opposed by the GOP Congress. House Majority Leader Dick Armey said it was “counter to the principles of the Republican Party, and this Congress has no intention of voting on such legislation.� (House Majority Leader Dick Armey to Governor Frolian Tenorio, February 19, 1998)

Cagle promotes amnesty for foreign workers. The bill Cagle promotes granted amnesty to foreign workers, including workers from the People’s Republic of China, so they could obtain permanent U.S. resident status. It gave “foreign workers in the CNMI a shot at U.S. residency, and ultimately citizenship.� (H.R. 730, Section 10; Pacific Daily News, June 12, 2006)

Cagle Attacks Traditional Values Coalition mailing praising Pro-Life Congressman. Cagle criticizes a mailing by the Traditional Values Coalition thanking conservative GOP Congressman Bob Riley for opposing the Clinton bill. To suggest as Cagle does that a mailing Ralph Reed did for a pro-life group praising a pro-life Congressman was a defense of abortion and prostitution is absurd and despicable.

Reed Supported Reagan Policy. President Ronald Reagan ratified allowing the Northern Marianas islands to set their own local wages by executive order in 1986. By opposing H.R. 730, Reed supported the Reagan policy, while Cagle sides with Clinton and the left-wing labor unions. (Presidential Proclamation 5564, November 7, 1986)

Ralph Reed strongly favors human rights. Ralph has been an advocate for human rights and is the only candidate for Lt. Governor who has proposed a plan to crack down on human sex trafficking. He has been a pro-life, pro-family leader for decades and is endorsed by Georgia Right to Life. For Cagle to argue that Reed, the former head of the Christian Coalition, favors abortion, prostitution and human rights abuses is the failed tactic of a desperate, losing candidate. Cagle’s politics of personal destruction will backfire and be rejected by Republican voters on July 18.

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 8:41 PM | Link to this

Debra, Cagle campaign worker, Let’s see proof that Reed swindled anyone. Put up or shut up.

If Cagle wins Tuesday, the Democrat will be elected in November. i will always vote GOP but know a lot of Reed supporters that will either sit out the election or vote Democrat.

Reed will win this. I gurantee it. Just wait and see what happens next. This is going to be sooooo much fun!!!

By BahamaBoy

July 12, 2006 8:46 PM | Link to this

Don’t the Reed people know that Debbie is the worst possible representative for their message?

What a pathetic comeback, Little Debbie. Is that all you guys can come up with after the 5-hour meeting at Redd HQ?

What about the federal lawsuit filed by the Indian tribe in Texas today? And the collapsing poll numbers? And George W. and Karl not returning Ralph’s phone calls? Where is the spin on that?

Only six days to go. I’m lovin’ it!

By BahamaBoy

July 12, 2006 8:51 PM | Link to this

Debbie claims anybody can file a lawsuit. But the reality is there are strong sanctions against attorneys and litigants who file frivolous lawsuits.

So, I propose Reed’s camp file a lawsuit against Cagle! Any lawsuit! Come on guys, dream one up! Find a lawyer with the daring-do to put his name on it and file it. You can pay the court’s fine out of the leftover cash you’ll have on hand when you coast to victory next Tuesday.

Come on. Make My Day!

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 9:07 PM | Link to this

Bahama boy, I am not employed by the Reed campaign and have not been to the HQ in the past two months.

I do know Ethics complaints were filed against Cagle a few months ago by people ticked off at Cagle. That is a fact not fiction.

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 9:09 PM | Link to this

Have you guys heard the automated phone calls from Rudy Giuliani? He talks about Ralph’s leadership abilities and asks that you vote for Ralph. Let’s see first Zell then Rudy wonder who will be next?hmmm…..

By fred

July 12, 2006 9:14 PM | Link to this

Debbie, as a Christian, I feel as though I have been swindled by Ralph Reed and I know there are a lot of other people of faith around the state who feel exactly as I do. How dare he use Christ to gain political power and personal financial enrichment. He is no better than the money changers Jesus drove from the Temple. In my mind this is not about his lobbying work (although it is troubling to say the least, his legal problems, or his hypocricy on gambling (which is evident). It is more fundamental - here is a guy who has gotten rich and gained political power by using Christianity for his own ends. I can’t see how Christians can stomach that.

By Debra (In Texas)

July 12, 2006 9:23 PM | Link to this

Me a Cagle campaign worker?? Surely you can do better than that, Honey. I live, work, and attend [an evangelical] church in Texas. Believe it or not, we do get news from both Washington and Georgia here in our quaint little state, and it breaks my heart to see God’s people in Georgia fleased by a false shepherd like Reed.

Casey Cagle? I know little about him other than he’s running in the Republican primary for Lt. Governor against Ralph Reed; however, the fact that Cagle has a pulse should provide all the reason a moral person needs to vote against Reed.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 9:28 PM | Link to this

Debbie,

Every time you say “just wait” or something to that effect, Reed gets hit with more news. So keep on saying that. It’s good to see your words are prophetic that Reed keeps getting hit deeper and deeper.

And Debbie, copying and pasting that distorted and childish attempt to flip Ralph’s actions in the Northern Mariana Islands is a little worn out. Reed’s actions condoned cheap imitation imports abusing the “Made in the USA” label, condoned child labor abuses, prostitution, forced abortions, etc.

And let’s see…how many people involved in this little Mariana Island deal are in trouble or in jail? What happened to DeLay? Bob Ney? All of DeLay’s associates? It seems every time we turn around, every scandal in politics has ONE connection: Ralph Reed. While he manages to cover his tracks, his followers and clients are learning quite fast that it’s all about the almighty dollar for him.

If Reed will sell out his followers, clients, and Christians, who WON’T he sell out?

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 9:30 PM | Link to this

Sure Debra,you have never posted on this blog before and the day the news about the lawsuit breaks you suddenly appear. You Cagle people sure think voters are stupid.

By Antonio from Austin

July 12, 2006 9:35 PM | Link to this

I just wanted you people in Georgia to know that we Christians in Texas support Ralph Reed wholeheartedly and the fact someone as dastardly as Casey Cagle is trying to defame Reed is like the pot calling the kettle black. We make roadkill stew out of skunks like Casey in our state.

Our fine Sen. Kay Bailey-Hutchinson sings Reeds praises as well.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 9:37 PM | Link to this

Debra,

Watch out! Debbie’s Kool Aid is a little stronger than usual tonight. She’ll accuse you of being Cagle’s mistress before too much longer.

They’re getting desperate. And if there’s one thing about a cornered tiger, they fight to the death. For all who are not fully informed, this is the first step in Reed’s ascent to the throne. It’s more or less a one shot deal here. in his mind he CANNOT fail. So expect an all-out blitz here in the next couple of days. He’ll do something at the last moment to ensure Cagle cannot respond.

The one thing going against him? Tell everyone to vote early. Tell everyone to get out and vote now. You can easily vote early. Have friends and family do so NOW!

By Susan

July 12, 2006 9:40 PM | Link to this

Strings were pulled and a friend of mine’s teenage son has been working as a volunteer for Ralph Reed. A couple of weekends ago, he popped the trunk on his car and inside I saw loads of Cagle signs. I’m angry as can be with my friend’s son, who is old enough to know that what he is doing is ethically wrong. But I’m much more angry at the Reed campaign, who would teach a young person that the way to get ahead is to steal the signs of one’s opponent.

I don’t know enough about the other allegations against Reed that I read to comment on them. But Reed is so bent on winning that he is unashamed to ask a young person to do something wrong.

It makes me wonder about his xtian morals. I guess those don’t count when you are running for office.

I have asked my friend’s son repeatedly to erase any mention of working for Reed’s campaign from his CV. I hope he listens. I think any association with Reed is a bad idea.

By Tony

July 12, 2006 9:41 PM | Link to this

Antonio,

Good to see you speak for ALL Christians in Texas. As Debbie says do you Reed supporters think voters are that stupid? And if you would read your own words. How can any sane and educated Christian make such a repulsive remark? Reed’s people are showing their true colors.

And Debbie brings a good point. Someone from Austin breezing by and happen to note their wunderkind is coming under attack? Debbie won’t say anything about Antonio though.

By Debra (In Texas)

July 12, 2006 9:43 PM | Link to this

Thanks Tony,

As I said before I don’t know the man, but after reading the posts in here tonight, I’ve decided that I’d much rather be Casey’s mistress than Reed’s w*******….

By Philly

July 12, 2006 9:45 PM | Link to this

Fred, I can’t see how voters can stomach the fact that Cagle used his office to feather his own nest. Reed was in private business, Cagle served himself when he should have been serving the public.

Don’t you think it a little strange that all these respected leaders are standing by Reed with all that Cagle has accused him of? It is pretty clear they think Cagle is lying.

I will trust Zell Miller, Rudy Giuliani any day of the week over a weasel that gave Mark Taylor a $ 1,000 contribution then lied about it.

I can assure you that by supporting Cagle you are on the same team as moderates, gays and left wing groups that hate Reed. Really good company for Christians to be in.

The majority of Christians do not think as you do. I know pastors of some of the largest congregations in the Atlanta area support Reed.

By Philly

July 12, 2006 9:50 PM | Link to this

Susan, The Cagle people did the same thing. At the Cobb GOP BBQ they were photgraphed taking down Cindye Coates signs and putting up Cagle’s. Cindye went to Cagle and asked him to pay for the cost of the signs.

Reed signs have been disappearing all over and I am talking about 4x4 signs. Ask Fred Elrod of Cobb County or Nan Ploener. Do you thinks those signs are just taking themselves down? I know someone that has a Reed sing up on West Paces Ferry Road and it keeps getting taken down. He got so tired of it the put up a camera to catch whoever is doing it.

By Philly

July 12, 2006 9:52 PM | Link to this

By the way Tony, what did you think of Rudy’s phone call?

By John C. Fremont

July 12, 2006 10:01 PM | Link to this

So “Debbie” is from Alabama—George Wallace was too!

By Tony

July 12, 2006 10:09 PM | Link to this

I’m still waiting for those pictures Cindye took. For some reason, they just haven’t appeared yet. Strange how accusations from Reed’s people come forth and no evidence backs it up. To quote my good friend Debbie “put up or shut up”.

And Philly, you can keep lining up these ‘leaders’ all you want. Obviously they’re not worth their weight in gold, money or whatever else Ralph has on them. Polls and contributions are going the other way. But I guess there is a ‘reasonable’ explanation how more money is going Cagle’s way along with higher poll numbers?

Rudy’s call means nothing to me. Funny how the righteous puritanical types slam gays and liberals but they’re proud of their adulterer who thrusts gay rights, gay marriage, gun control, and pro-choice views out to the world. It must grate at those social concervatives to see someone who got kicked out of the Mayor’s mansion (Gracie Manor) because he cheated on his wife, only to move in with a gay couple. I guess that rabid anti-gay crowd either is choking on that endorsement OR they’ve ‘compromised’ their principles?

And to everyone else….notice how all was quiet as Reed was being pummeled. And suddenly the Ralphites come lining up to the blog. Either a damage control meeting just let out OR one single person has multiple personalities. Considering they all say the same thing over and over and appear at the same time, I’m beginning to wonder if it’s not just the single Reed supporter left out there.

By Bill

July 12, 2006 10:29 PM | Link to this

Poor Jared…Poor Ralph…subjected to campaign ads that are “off the charts”…”beyond the pale”. Many of us remember Ralph & Tom Purdue’s Saxby Chambliss ad that savagely attacked Sen. Max Cleland, recipient of the Gold & Silver Stars for courage under fire in Vietnam, a triple-amputee veteran who exemplifies the triumph of the human spirit. Ralph & Tom authored the campaign ad that compared Max to BinLaden and Sadam claiming he “lacked the courage to lead”. Reed may not have known the definition of “courage” but he clearly knows the definition of “hypocrite”. He’s fooled many. In fact he was well paid to do so. But Georgians can do so much better.

By legal72

July 13, 2006 3:20 AM | Link to this

I know Debbie and went toe to toe with the mindless wacko. I just have to ask the Cobb GOP, What Waffle House did y’all drag her out of???? Obviously one in Bama. Keep drinking the cool aid crazy one!!!!

By Philly

July 13, 2006 6:22 AM | Link to this

legal72, I know Debbie, too and find her to be quite charming and intelligent. She speaks her mind and that is why nut jobs on Cagle’s staff don’t like her. Tell me are you what people were referring to as the 40 year old teenager on Cagles staff? I saw yo uand Debbie go toe to toe. She was making you take down signs because you had not followed the rules set forth in emails that were sent out and were trying to put up too many. Another instance where Cagle’s campaign thought they were beyond the rules…

By Philly

July 13, 2006 6:28 AM | Link to this

Tony, I heard Cindye talk about it. Why would she lie about it? She obviously went to Cagle about it and it was settled. That is the way it should have been handled. There were many people that heard her speaking about.

If you want to know about Tony/Bill check out http://politicalvine.com/politicalrumors/index.php

By BahamaBoy

July 13, 2006 7:55 AM | Link to this

Speaking of the Cobb Co. BBQ, was that the Debbie who was running around with a clipboard chastising the Cagle people for inadvertently letting some of their balloons float up to the ceiling? She made one one of them climb up there are get them down; otherwise they would have violated the rules for placement of campaign material! Please tell me it was her. I’ve been trying to put a face on this “Debbie” for some time now, and that one would fit perfectly.

By gdawginkalamazoo

July 13, 2006 8:52 AM | Link to this

Macca Dave,

Reading all the responses and posts on here just make me proud to be an American. Can we spread this great thing called Democracy to the Middle East? Should be easy shouldn’t it? Just invade some oil rich, tyrant lead country and poof! Mix a little oil with hanging chads and get instant democracy. No wonder they are resisting this thing. When not making car bombs they are reading our political blogs.

On the note of those automated phone calls from politicians that you don’t want to hear from.. For every politician that intrudes my personal space and time with those calls…. LOSES MY VOTE! Even if I was planning on voting for them. What gives them the right to waste my time (blogging about their misdeeds aside).

I don’t mean to sound like a Dixie Chick but I am ashamed that Ralph Reed is a graduate of the University of Georgia.

By Tony

July 13, 2006 9:11 AM | Link to this

“Philly”,

You’re proving you’re an idiot and have no clue who I am. I know it drives you nuts to try and figure me out. I am not Bill Simon. Bill posts here all the time. I’ve never known Bill to hide behind anything or anyone. So keep thinking I’m Bill and it only shows you are just another clueless Reed supporter.

Philly sounds a lot like Debbie though. Philly repeats the same thing and defends her as if it were her alter-ego.

By BahamaBoy

July 13, 2006 9:15 AM | Link to this

900 percent! 900 percent! 900 percent!

By BahamaBoy

July 13, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

From today’s Austin [Texas] Statesman:

Texas tribe sues Abramoff, former Christian Coalition leader …

According to the lawsuit, the Louisiana-Coushattas spent almost $3.4 million with Reed over four months to kill the bill. To disguise the source of the money, Abramoff and Reed had the tribe write checks to the American International Center, a sham think tank. In turn, the lawsuit says, Reed used the money to create the Committee Against Gambling as a front group fighting the Texas gambling bill.

At times, the lobbying effort was intense. In an e-mail, Reed reported to Abramoff that he was sending out 100,000 anti-gambling postcards to lawmakers’ constituents and “patching through” 8,000 phone calls to members of a key House committee.

A former Reed employee, quoted in the lawsuit, said bogus organizations were set up to make phone calls. The organizations were just telephones in a drawer. When a phone would ring, the employee would open the drawer, figure out which phone was ringing and answer in the name of that organization, the lawsuit says. …

In addition to [Phoenix attorney] Petti, the East Texas tribe has retained Andy Taylor, a Houston lawyer who was the top assistant to [Texas Attorney General] Cornyn before returning to private practice to represent Republican interests in high-profile cases. Taylor said he can represent the Alabama-Coushattas because the lawsuit involves events that began five months after Taylor left his state job.

Reed wrote e-mails claiming that he was working with Cornyn’s staff on closing Indian casinos, but Cornyn said he does not remember meeting Reed and thinks he was just boasting to clients about his role.

So, it looks like Reed was bragging about his work the Cornyn’s staff, and now Cornyn’s top assistant is suing Reed for all the mess he did in Texas politics while he wasn’t registered as a lobbyist. If anyone would know what Reed did with Cornyn’s staff it would be Taylor.

Man, I can’t make this stuff up. Reed is in a whole lot of trouble over this one.

By Tony

July 13, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

I agree with you 900%.

By BahamaBoy

July 13, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this

Tony, it sure is quiet around here today. I thought it would be noisier.

By Tony

July 13, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

Just you wait says Debbie…

It’s the calm before the storm. I’m breaking out my Y2K gear and my duck tape and plastic sheeting….Ralph will be sending out his minions in force soon enough. Brace yourselves….

By Rich Miles

July 13, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

I’m not even from Georgia, and happened on this page by accident. I read some of the posts here, but can’t read all of them. I know nothing whatever about Cagle except what I’ve read here. And frankly, we have problems enough of our own here in KY where I live.

But having said all that, I simply cannot believe that supposedly rational people - y’all are rational, aren’t you? - still refuse to see that Ralph Reed is not only a world-class religious hypocrite, but a (so far unindicted) criminal. Get a little perspective, folks - the rest of the country laughs at the fact that you’re still debating this issue, and over a Lt.Gov job! Even some Christian websites and papers have abandoned him, OUTside of GA. Look outside your own little insular web, take off the religious blinders that cause you still to accept him as a serious candidate, and you might learn that his evil is not really debated very much anywhere else.

And you folks are still taking Zell Miller seriously? The man who single-handedly lowered the political discourse to an all-time low, often matched but never beaten, at the 04 Republican National Convention? He’s still someone ANYone listens to?

Maybe KY is not so bad after all. At least we KNOW our crooked politicians are crooked.

I know this suggestion will not go down well on what appears to be a predominantly Republican blog, but take a look at Al Franken’s well-documented remarks on DeLay, Reed, Abramoff, and the Marianas in his most recent book “The Truth - With Jokes”. If there’s any hope of cutting through the religious fog and getting to the truth about Reed, it may be found here.

One last observation: the absence of religious organizations condemning Reed is NOT an indication that they find him acceptable. And the fact that some religious organizations - outside of GA, I note - have said good things about him is not an indication of anything except that organization’s desire to cover its own backside.

Elect him at your peril. But if Cagle’s remarks seem over the top, imagine what it will mean for your state if Cagle is right.

Then vote your conscience.

By Tony

July 13, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

GREAT read from conservative, and widely respected, Human Events:

text to be linked

Spin away Debbie!

By Tony

July 13, 2006 11:03 AM | Link to this

CLICK HERE

By debbie

July 13, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

I can really see why an avowed atheist would be supporting Cagle and write this piece.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Olasky

By Debbie

July 13, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

I can really see why an avowed atheist would be supporting Cagle and write this piece.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Olasky

By Tony

July 13, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

Get this! Debbie on another blog runs out to Wikipedia and copies the link to Olasky in this article. She reads the first paragraph and then makes the following comment:

“I can really see why an avowed atheist would be supporting Cagle and write this piece. Let’s see the groups supporting Cagle: Rockefeller Republicans, gays, left wing liberals, atheists, people against the display of the Ten commandments, etc.”

BUT if Debbie BOTHERED to read the WHOLE article on Wikipedia, she would have noted that Olasky is a devout Christian who has worked with GWB and promotes FAITH BASED INITIATIVES!

Once again, knee jerk insane comments from the Reed gallery showing how intelligent these people truly are. Great call Debbie. You are showing me how desperate and dumb the Reed camp is.

By Tony

July 13, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

Debbie,

Thanks for helping me out. You just confirmed how clueless you are. And you say that I can’t read?

By Debbie

July 13, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

The guy was a devout atheist and it would stand to reason why he does not like Reed. He may be a Christian now but he still has reservations about Christians becoming political candidates.

Bahama Boy, you ARE a Cagle staffer. You guys not busy now huh?

By Tony

July 13, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

Debbie,

That has to be the WORST comeback I’ve ever seen. This guy has been a born-again Christian since 1976. I guess if you’re not a Christian all your life (which no one is) then you don’t deserve respect? He was the mastermind behind W’s drive for faith based initiatives. In ‘95 he was an advisor to GWB, then candidate for governor of Texas.

Where do you get this idea that he has reservations about Christians becoming political candidates? It seems not long ago, Reed people were using his magazine to defend Reed. Now they’ve gathered the mob and rope and are ready to lynch the man….hmmm.

By sandyspringsbob

July 13, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

(I posted this on the ad blog too.) I had been on the fence until this past week. Never had heard of Casey Cagle before, but his attacks on Ralph are ridiculous. I don’t care about arguing about the Clinton view vs. the Union view vs. the Reagan views, but to have the ethics to say Ralph Reed was paid to cover up Child Prostitution and Forced Abortions crossed the line.

I’ve not always been a fan of Ralph Reed, but that’s ridiculous. I think Casey lost more votes than he won on this one.

By gdawginkalamazoo

July 13, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Tony,

I follow your logic BUT MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, GWB and Ralpie ARE NOT really Christians after all. They only pretend to be to get the vote and the $$$$$. I mean part of their “jobs” to earn this money and support is to go to church on Sunday.

By BahamaBoy

July 13, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this

Debbie, I’m no staffer to any candidate. I just enjoy the game — kicking the crap out of opponents who lie, cheat and steal. That makes my efforts against Reed so much fun — there’s SO much material! This guy just keeps giving, and giving, and giving — like the Energizer Bunny.

Come to think of it, that bunny reference works even better on you. I picture you as a Little Debbie Energizer Bunny moving around and banging your drum. You just keep going, and going, and going …

By Tony

July 13, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

SandySpringsBob,

How does the truth ‘cross the line’? Ralph advocated for the status quo on the island. He pushed for the protection of the way it was. He protected Communist Chinese manufacturers the ability to bring slave labor to the islands. He protected a system that exploited labor and propogated sex slavery, prostitution, and a system that promoted forced abortions. He protected Communist Chinese manufacturers’ ability to use the “Made in the USA” label deceiving Americans on their purchases.

How does the truth cross the line? I guess you’d rather support a candidate that works to help Communist Chinese exploiting humans for sex and cheap labor? That’s Christian and American values if I’ve ever seen it.

By Debbie

July 13, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

He has blasted Pat Roberson publicly

By Tony

July 13, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Debbie,

When you advocate assassinating people, you tend to get a negative feedback. Debbie, you advocate assassinating people?

Let’s look at some other ‘blasts’ from the godless:

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Tuesday that Robertson has the right of any private citizen to say whatever he wants, but added that the broadcaster’s remarks “do not represent the views of the United States.”

“His comments are inappropriate,” he said. “Allegations that we are planning to take hostile action against the Venezuelan government are completely baseless and without fact.”

Former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole, who ran against Robertson for the GOP presidential nomination in 1988, called the comments “stupid” and “ludicrous” and suggested Robertson apologize “very quickly.”

The Rev. Ted Haggard, the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, said Robertson was wrong to recommend the assassination.

“Is it right to call for assassination? No, and I apologize for that statement,” Robertson said. “I spoke in frustration that we should accommodate the man who thinks the U.S. is out to kill him.”

“In October 2003, he suggested that the State Department be blown up with a nuclear device.”

By sandyspringsbob

July 13, 2006 2:39 PM | Link to this

Tony,

My last comment and then I leave this juvenile back and forth: Using your logic then every Republican that voted against that bill supported forced abortion and child prostitution.

You can’t have it both ways.

By Tony

July 13, 2006 2:49 PM | Link to this

Sorry asking a legitimate question is juvenile in your eyes. I guess having someone merely asking why you believe something is childish. Forgive me for doing something that is actually taught in debate classes.

I didn’t know I’m having it both ways. How is that? Have I said anything that would indicate that?

By jpetz

July 13, 2006 2:52 PM | Link to this

Why Was Reed Involved With Marianna Islands

Can any Reed supported answer this question honestly? I’ll answer it for you - money. His buddy, felon Jack Abramoff was sticking his nose into that islands’ business by blocking union attempts to break the slave labor wages in their sweatshops. Such businesses were willing to pay Abramoff millions if he could stop these unions, with help from Tom Delay. I’m not sure what Reed’s involvement was but I doubt he was on the side of the unions. That means he was willing to keep these poor people in slave labor, as an indirect consequence, force bread winners such as wives and mothers into prostitution in order to pay the bills. Cagle struck a chord with this information because it shows that Reed will do anything to make a buck while spinning it to look Christian. Its astonishing anyone would be suckered into supporting this guy who is blatantly transparent. Only a gullible fool would vote for Reed.

By Debbie

July 13, 2006 3:06 PM | Link to this

It appears Cagle is a friend of big labor now. They and Bill Clinton were trying to have our labor laws apply to the islands. Reagan even opposed this policy.

Bob Riley asked Reed to assist in keeping big labor from getting a foothold in the Marianas. Reagan had the same policy to prevent labor laws here from being applied in the Marianas.

Clinton was trying to appease labor because they were upset because he supported NAFTA.

I guess

By Tony

July 13, 2006 3:15 PM | Link to this

Debbie and Ralph would rather have Communist Chinese running sweatshops within our borders exploiting their workers and misusing the “Made in the USA” label. Debbie and Ralph see unions as a greater threat than prostitution, slavery, and abortions. I guess the moral highground just got redefined. And so did cooperation with Communists.

Hear it here first people - Debbie condones Communists, slavery, abortion, child exploitation, prostitution, etc. To her unions are worse than killing unborn babies. Unions are worse than Communists. Unions are worse than prostitution.

Reed’s millions? All made from causes supporting such vile behavior.

By gdawginkalamazoo

July 13, 2006 3:49 PM | Link to this

Tony,

If you are debating or mentioning the great influence of Pat Robertson you forgot the death wish that he had for our Supreme Court justices awhile back.

Doesn’t Reed and Delay kinda look like each other a little bit?

By Flibberdigibbit

July 13, 2006 3:49 PM | Link to this

It seems to me that Ralph Reed is likely a closeted aetheist.

There is simply no way that a truly God-fearing Chirstian man would sell his name or position for creature comforts.

Not even the mega-church preachers of the doctrine of prosperity have the audacity that’s been shown by Reed’s association with and actions on behalf of a convicted criminal like Abramhoff.

Reed’s goose is cooked and his ardent supporters should soon be developing a taste for eating crow.

By JP

July 13, 2006 5:57 PM | Link to this

Check this out: From GQ: Reed, Abramoff Discussed “Mortgaging Old Black People”

By sulphurdunn

July 13, 2006 5:58 PM | Link to this

I’d like to see Reed finally get his, but that’s unlikely in a state willing to stall reauthorization of the voting rights act in Congress. It just doesn’t matter how evil, loathsome and corrupt you are, so long as you love Jesus and Mammon. Amen.

By Reagan Democrat

July 13, 2006 6:47 PM | Link to this

As referenced in the beginning, polls conducted over the weekend are not considered to be as reliable as polls conducted Monday through Friday.

By Tony

July 13, 2006 7:10 PM | Link to this

Reagan Democrat,

So basically you’re saying the IA poll which has Cagle up MUCH higher than the SV poll is the one to trust? I agree. Ralph is in trouble.

By God

July 13, 2006 9:52 PM | Link to this

I think you all suck. Stop bringing me up in your petty poltical slapfights or I make you all break out in oozing pustules…

Praise me.

By Manny

July 14, 2006 12:15 AM | Link to this

EXPLOSIVE, JUST-RELEASED EXPOSE BY GQ ON RALPHIE BABY

“THE SINS OF RALPH REED”

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_4608

[Excerpt:]

“When Reed announced his candidacy, [Maurice] Atkinson signed up for his steering committee. Of course he would support Reed, the man who’d shepherded conservative Christians into the political process.

Then the stories started trickling out. Abramoff, sure. But also Enron. And Channel One, another company the Christian Right generally despises but for which Reed lobbied. And the South Carolina primary in 2000. The stories kept coming until Atkinson thought: Man, this guy’s got no core.

“I call them political pimps,� he says. “They want to develop their market base and manipulate the system. You got Al Sharpton. You got Jesse Jackson. You got Ralph Reed. And the cause isn’t for the cause. It’s for themselves.�

Atkinson is stumping for Senator Cagle now. He’s like Cagle’s own avenging angel, a former Reed acolyte who is devastating in his critique. As a political prop, he’s brilliant.

Yet Atkinson is also sincere. He’s a heavyset man of 44, and at times he appears to slump when he talks about Reed, about what he thought then and what he knows now. Was it all a con? All the Christian Nation preaching, all the calls to the righteous?

“Yes,� Atkinson says. “I believe it was.�

Reed could have worked for anyone he wanted to, could have lent his considerable talents to any number of Christian organizations, real ones, too, the kind that existed before Reed needed some preachers to front for his corporate clients. But Enron? Indian casinos? “He’s either an awfully cheap w*******,� Atkinson says, “or he’s diabolical.�

And here’s the part he doesn’t understand. “If you really believe…� He stops, takes a breath. “You don’t want to question people’s faith,� he says again, “but you almost have to. Because if you really believe that you know what’s wrong and what’s right, why would you decide—decide—to do the wrong thing?�

By bob johnson

July 14, 2006 4:18 AM | Link to this

f*** reed,oh excuse me,he would like that.

By gdawginkalamazoo

July 14, 2006 9:27 AM | Link to this

The GQ article is VERY interesting. I found this quote so far the best:

His own mother—his mother! —once told USA Today, “I used to tell people he was going to be either President of the United States or Al Capone.�

Can you say Ralph “Scarface” Reed?

Do any of you Reed fans have articles that extoll his virtues and good works that we can link to?

By gdawginkalamazoo

July 14, 2006 9:50 AM | Link to this

From the GQ article:

The report accuses Reed of nothing illegal. But it does cast him in the role of Abramoff’s supporting weasel, a schemer desperate to hide the source of his gambling paychecks. Even Abramoff mocked his greed, telling Scanlon that Reed is a bad version of us! And when one of Abramoff’s marks fretted that Reed was an antigambling ideologue, the report notes, Abramoff laughingly replied “as far as the cash goes.�

This is his business associate, and friend saying this. As well as convicted felon.

My God, Reed might get elected?????

By PunkyAmerica

July 14, 2006 2:49 PM | Link to this

Debbie, its fun watching you make up stuff and change directions with every new attack on your “position”, but I have to pipe up about the Reagan nonsense.

I’m guessing you weren’t even born then, but I was around, and can call you a liar to your face.

There was no wave of condemnation of Reagan for telling the Ruskies to tear down the Berlin wall, and the reason the liberals attacked Reagan is because his administration was selling WMD’s and missile technology to Saddam Hussein, Iran, and Communist China (with your hero Bush 41 in charge of it all).

And Ralph Reed is no more a true Christian than you.

this text will be italic“The devil is a liar, and the father of lies” Jesus of Nazareth

this text will be italic“By the fruit do you know the tree.” Jesus of Nazareth

By Debbie

July 14, 2006 3:06 PM | Link to this

Punky, I was born in 1958 and you are totally wrong about me being around and Reagan not being criticized. He was criticized at every turn.

You either were not around at that time or had your head buried in the sand. You don’t have a clue…

By Tony

July 14, 2006 3:19 PM | Link to this

Debbie,

For someone who can’t even read a full Wikipedia article and get it right, you have no business saying someone else has no clue. You can’t even read beyond a paragraph before running off to defend your Ralphie. But clearly every time you defend him you show YOU have no clue and GReed has no ethics, principles, and morals.

By Howard

July 14, 2006 3:27 PM | Link to this

Tony, you really hate Reed so much and probably lead a pathetic little life. You like to insult those that don’t agree with your viewpoint and that shows you are a very unhappy person.

I agree with Debbie, Punky does not have a clue about Reagan. She probably is either in college or not long graduated. She spouts off the views taugh to her in left wing liberal universaties. That is obvious.

Seek help for your anger and your obsession with Debbie and Ralph Reed before you do something stupid…

By Howard

July 14, 2006 3:30 PM | Link to this

By the way, Tony have you seen the latest Insider poll? It shows Cagle dropping and Reed going back up. You think those Zell phone calls and ads might be helping? Or it could be voters are angry about the type of vicious, lying campaign Cagle is running.

By Angel

July 14, 2006 6:54 PM | Link to this

If you strip away Ralph’s qualifications to hold office, all you have left is an extremely goodlooking con man.

Can it be that Ralph’s remaining supporters can’t help themselves because they are sexually attracted to him?

Debbie?

Well, who could blame them? I mean I’ve had a few fantasies myself about running my fingers through that incredibly sexy hair of his — for starters!!!

Howard?

By Tony

July 14, 2006 10:06 PM | Link to this

I live a pathetic little life? And I see your self-righteous demeanor is so loving toward your fellow man. You, Debbie, and the rest of the GReed gang like to attack Cagle and his supporters but if someone says something about god, I mean Ralph, WE are the evil ones.

Clearly you’re one full of hate. You and Debbie insult those IN college, never gone to college, small business owners, those raised by single moms. You both get on here and talk trash but offer no substance to your defense of GA’s richest con man.

You say insulting people is a pathetic little life but yet you turn around and do the same. Typical GReed supporter who cannot hold up to his own standard just like your boss.

As for the polls, I find it funny how GReed people love this poll when GReed was up, slammed it when Cagle was up, and now are loving it with GReed tied. Seeing the fluctuations of all races and actually knowing something about polling ‘howard’ I’d say the outcome will not be the way this poll is showing. Considering how samples change each poll and demographics do as well, there is no telling what the truth is in this poll. So go ahead and gloat. Your candidate is still a liar, hypocrite, and a scam artist. No poll or money can change that.

By Tony

July 15, 2006 12:03 AM | Link to this

FACT CHECK: Reed Attack on Cagle Votes Off the Mark

Ralph Says:

Casey Cagle’s “record shows a lack of leadership” because he was off the Senate floor on other business during several non-controversial votes on February 22, 2006.

The Truth:

In terms of getting legislative results, Casey Cagle has a record that is second to none in the State Senate. His achievements include major tax cuts, tough new penalties for DUI offenders, significant improvements in education funding, protecting students from violence, and earning rock-solid ratings from a wide range of conservative groups. By contrast, Ralph Reed has no record at all, because he has never cast a single legislative vote. An increasingly desperate Ralph Reed is attacking Senator Cagle because he would rather not talk about his own lack of experience.

The Facts:

· On February 22nd, Casey traveled to Washington, D.C. for several hours. A key focus of his visit was meeting with the leaders of the top pro-Second Amendment and pro-life groups in the nation. With major gun and pro-life bills approaching the Senate floor as soon as this week, these meetings offered a critical opportunity to discuss strategy to ensure their passage. Ralph Reed may believe these issues are not important, but they are and will remain top priorities for Senator Cagle.

· Before leaving town, Casey personally conferred with Senate leadership to ensure only non-controversial legislation that was certain of passage was called to the floor. Of the twelve bills Ralph bases his negative attack on, only one received more than a single vote in opposition, and it passed by a margin of 42 to 7.

· In the twelve years he has served in the State Senate, Casey has participated in 95% of the votes cast on the floor.

· The key difference between Ralph Reed and Casey Cagle is disclosure. Casey’s activities as a Senator are a matter of public record and we are always glad to discuss them. Ralph Reed, on the other hand, is a career lobbyist who hides his activities from the public, and discloses his clients only when forced to do so through such means as federal subpoeanas, felony plea bargains by his close associates, and U.S. Senate hearings.

· Ralph continues to refuse interviews from the news media, and instead spends his time thinking of new ways to tear down Casey Cagle — even after he pledged to run a positive campaign. Fortunately, the people of Georgia aren’t buying his desperate negative tactics.