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By tl still

July 12, 2006 7:14 PM | Link to this

I am not concerned about gambling and what Indian tribes do legally with their money. I think it is legal to pay for public relations and advertising (AJC makes a fortuene). What I want Cagle to confess to the public that he, Purdue et al. tried to espand eminent domain and turn off sunlight and transparency in big government and corporate deal making. Why don”t you jump on him about that?

By Political Foreskin

July 12, 2006 9:18 PM | Link to this

VOTE FOR RALPH REED

HE HAD ME AT ‘HALO’

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 9:26 PM | Link to this

Have you heard the automated phone calls from Rudy Giuliani on behalf of Ralph? At some point the voters will understand that Cagle is lying in his ads or well respected leaderslike Zell Miller, Sean Hannity, Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich would not be standing behinde him it those things were true.

Rudy talks about Ralph’s leadership abilities.

By Debbie

July 12, 2006 9:27 PM | Link to this

CAGLE SIDES WITH BILL CLINTON

AND UNION BOSSES ON

WAGE AND AMNESTY BILL

Cagle’s Attack on Reed Promotes Bill Clinton-backed Wage

Legislation Granting Amnesty to Foreign Workers

U.S. territories are covered by federal health and safety laws. Cagle claims that because Ralph Reed opposed a Clinton administration wage bill, he defended the mistreatment of workers. But federal health and safety laws, including OSHA, already apply to all U.S. territories. Poor working conditions, including forced abortion and child prostitution, are illegal under current law. (Occupational Safety and Health Act, 1970)

Cagle defends Clinton plan, opposes Republican Congress. Cagle defends Clinton’s bill, H.R. 730, which imposed the federal minimum wage on the Northern Marianas. It was backed by the AFL-CIO and left-wing union bosses. It was opposed by the GOP Congress. House Majority Leader Dick Armey said it was “counter to the principles of the Republican Party, and this Congress has no intention of voting on such legislation.� (House Majority Leader Dick Armey to Governor Frolian Tenorio, February 19, 1998)

Cagle promotes amnesty for foreign workers. The bill Cagle promotes granted amnesty to foreign workers, including workers from the People’s Republic of China, so they could obtain permanent U.S. resident status. It gave “foreign workers in the CNMI a shot at U.S. residency, and ultimately citizenship.� (H.R. 730, Section 10; Pacific Daily News, June 12, 2006)

Cagle Attacks Traditional Values Coalition mailing praising Pro-Life Congressman. Cagle criticizes a mailing by the Traditional Values Coalition thanking conservative GOP Congressman Bob Riley for opposing the Clinton bill. To suggest as Cagle does that a mailing Ralph Reed did for a pro-life group praising a pro-life Congressman was a defense of abortion and prostitution is absurd and despicable.

Reed Supported Reagan Policy. President Ronald Reagan ratified allowing the Northern Marianas islands to set their own local wages by executive order in 1986. By opposing H.R. 730, Reed supported the Reagan policy, while Cagle sides with Clinton and the left-wing labor unions. (Presidential Proclamation 5564, November 7, 1986)

Ralph Reed strongly favors human rights. Ralph has been an advocate for human rights and is the only candidate for Lt. Governor who has proposed a plan to crack down on human sex trafficking. He has been a pro-life, pro-family leader for decades and is endorsed by Georgia Right to Life. For Cagle to argue that Reed, the former head of the Christian Coalition, favors abortion, prostitution and human rights abuses is the failed tactic of a desperate, losing candidate. Cagle’s politics of personal destruction will backfire and be rejected by Republican voters on July 18.

By Political Foreskin

July 12, 2006 9:31 PM | Link to this

Ralph Reed wants to allow illegal aliens to vote, because they are christians, and thus should all vote for him. So I think we need to take another hard look at requiring a “Frito ID” at the polls.

We just cant let the christians steal this damn election.

By Political Foreskin

July 12, 2006 9:55 PM | Link to this

When one sees the vitriole that assails Ralph Reed’s platform of family values and implied intrinsic moral high ground, one can really appreciate how great the odds Christ himself faced against the commercialized Jewish establishment as he hit his own campaign trail. Hopefully Reed’s campaign will end in more of an “Oxbow Incident” instead of a crucifixion, but I’ll settle for either.

By Philly

July 12, 2006 9:58 PM | Link to this

Ralph Reed made it clear that he is against illegal aliens even being in this country. I hope you keep blasting Reed and supporting Cagle. People need to see the dregs of society supporting Cagle.

By Political Foreskin

July 12, 2006 10:38 PM | Link to this

Ralph Reed needs to admit that he knew he was grifting Indians, and that he thought it was funny. They were whooping it up in those emails, (no pun).

It’s 2006, and we’re still grifting the Indians? It’s just no fun having Ralph Reed as a fellow American.

I think I’d rather catch the measles again than listen to Ralph Reed say one more thing.

By Political Foreskin

July 12, 2006 10:41 PM | Link to this

Sounds like Ralph Reed had Philly at ‘halo’ too!

By Political Foreskin

July 12, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

Challenge: how to argue with a false christian…..Debbie, Lucifer would not have rebelled against God if he didn’t think he had a shot at winning. The fallen angels all must have thought they had a pretty good shot at victory over God, or why would they have bothered?

When you are considering our government and it’s laws, religion is the enemy as much as a radical shia chanting ‘death to america’ in Iran. We have civic and social justice problems that cant be solved with your self-serving take on the blood of Christ. Leave your faith at home, and vote for Cagle.

You aren’t the ‘dregs of society’, (as quaint as that term is), but you are the enemy of liberty.

Fact: God gets more worship out of a rock just being a rock than in all your tithes and shouted, sung prayers for your own greedy little needs.

By Savannah Thinker

July 12, 2006 11:55 PM | Link to this

Oh good God Debbie, get a brain… Ralph Reed is a hypocrite and laughs at home thinking that you fall for his load of crap. Stop being played.

By Nick

July 13, 2006 12:15 AM | Link to this

If you’re going to attack Cagle for “siding” with Bill Clinton, then, well …

Reed supporters please explain to me why he would align himself with the PRO-CHOICE and PRO GAY RIGHTS Rudy Giuliani? This defies logic.

By showered after voting

July 13, 2006 1:09 AM | Link to this

automated phone calls from Rudy Giuliani …

C’mon, Debbie. I thought you could make a better argument than that. Do you think he wrote the copy? Do you think he saw it before he read it? Do you think he knows what he said?

I agree with whoever said you are really ralph reed and posting under a drag name …

By No Dog in this Fight!

July 13, 2006 4:22 AM | Link to this

I can see the Headlines next week.

CAGLE WINS…

Cagle attributes win to a blogger named Debbie who blindly posted comments on ajc.com in support of Ralph Reed!

By Herbert H. Cagle

July 13, 2006 5:46 AM | Link to this

Please send me info on Mr. Cagle who is seeking to be LtGov. of one of America’s finest States. I know from where I speak,I was born and raised in Tennessee,Chattanooga, just up the road from you. I would love to know his politics to see if they are in line with mine. I know that there many Cagle’s in Georgia and maybe we are some what related. Any info you can furnish,please send to my email address. I now live in San Diego,Ca.

By Philly

July 13, 2006 6:48 AM | Link to this

It is very clear that left wing liberals hate Reed and are going to vote for their friend Cagle. You Cagle people are in good company with bloggers like political foreskin and Bill Simon on your side. You are in good company teaming up with anti Christians.

It is clear the Cagle staffers don’t like Debbie posting on this or any other blog because she defends Reed so strongly and calls attention to Cagle’s shortcomings. No dog in this hunt, which Cagle staffer are you? I really don’t think insults are going to prevent Debbie from posting because people like you would not say anything about it if she was not having an impact.

No one was defending Reed on the blogs until she came along. All you saw were Cagle people blasting Reed. Debbie came along and then others started following suit.

By Debbie

July 13, 2006 7:05 AM | Link to this

Showered, Are you saying the one of the most respected leaders in America just said what he was told to say without reading it and he did not realize what he had said? You Cagle people are really grasping at straws. I guess next you will accuse the Reed campaign of drugging Giuliani to get him to make that recording. That has about as much logic and truth as all the other allegations you have been throwing out there.

By Debbie

July 13, 2006 7:10 AM | Link to this

no dog in this hunt, unlike you I don’t just blindly post on this or any other blog and I have no intention on stopping either as long as you Cagle supporters are posting anti Reed crap. Turn about is fair play… You are really in good company with political foreskin. Voters need to see the type of people that are supporting Cagle.

By Howard

July 13, 2006 7:38 AM | Link to this

Nick, Cagle launched a vicious attack against Reed for opposing legislation Bill Clinton was using to try to appease big labor that was upset about NAFTA. You can’t have it both ways. Either Cagle supports what Clinton tried to do or he is in agreement with Reed.

Reed has never said that he agrees with Giuliani on every issue. Where they are in agreement is on leadership. Rudy knows a great deal about leadership. He was a great leader during the days following 9-11 and was even knighted by Queen Elizabeth in recognition of the leadership he showed.

Cagle is outright lying about Reed. Cagle says one thing and Reed says another. Voters have to ask themselves if leaders like Rudy Giuliani, Zell Miller, Sean Hannity and others would still be backing Reed if he had done all those things Cagle accuses him of. The answer is a resounding NO!!!They know and trust Reed.

By formercagleguy

July 13, 2006 7:38 AM | Link to this

Cagle has some gall to say what he says in that commercial. He questions someone else’s ethics when he should have started by removing the log in his own eye.

Cagle is bought and paid for by the Atlanta lobbyists and business interests that have lined his pockets for years.

He has given three different explanations for his $1,000 political contribution to Mark Taylor.

He has yet to explain how his net worth increased 900% during his time on the senate banking committee while he served on the board of a bank.

he has yet to give any explanation for walking off the floor of the senate during an important vote for eminent domain. Cagle’s values are not my values and he will not get my vote.

By marianas

July 13, 2006 8:48 AM | Link to this

I’m from the Marianas. I find it apalling that so many self-identifed Christians (b/c you say you are, but don’t act like it on this site or through your candidates—that includes you Debbie) would assume everything is merry in the Marianas. There is a lot of forced labor there. There are the things Cagle talks about. If you visit the there you will see that. Anyone who visited would see the problems unless it was willful ignorance, which is no excuse.

That bill would ahve given people in desparate poverty, in desparate situations, some bargaining power. Not everything Bill Clinton suppported was evil. killing that bill was inhumane. Almost as inhumane as the government regulations and rules that allow the evil behaivior there in the first place.

What amazes me, is that you are so focused on controlilng others through your legislation and programmes, that you forget our country was founded on freedom; not control of others like you puritans would have it.

Further, some imply that Cagle gained from his office. If he did I’m not surprised. Lots of people gain and profit by the political system. Including Ralph Reed. You say he is a legitimate businessmen: maybe by the law. But what product has he produced? He has produced massive subsidies and caused legislation to be passed that restricts the freedoms of other individuals using the government’s guns. That is not a legitimate or ethical business. It is the business of tyranny and oppression. I would not vote for Cagle or Reed. Abstinence is the Christian thing to do.

By Jack

July 13, 2006 8:52 AM | Link to this

I’m sorry, I just read something freaking hilarious — “Sean Hannity a leader” cracked me up! Sean Hannity is a talk show host. Nothing more. If Hannity is a leader, so is Clark Howard or Neal Boortz. Jeez, do better that citing Sean Hannity! He’s a rabid “My President Right Even When He’s Wrong” radio shock host and nothing more. If HE supports Reed, that’s enough reason to vote for Cagle.

By Tony

July 13, 2006 9:25 AM | Link to this

Let me see. You say Cagle is holding up Clinton and unions? Let’s see what Reed is holding up…the status quo. Chinese manufacturers able to bring cheap labor and use a loop hole to make clothing to put the “Made in the USA” label on them. Quite patriotic and honorable. Reed condones the forced importation of labor that includes children. He condones the forced child prostitution that prevailed. He supported the forced abortions on women who were treated more like slaves than employees. While Reed, Delay, Scanlon, Ney, Abramoff, etc. ran off to Scotland to supress their rights to flat out DECENT moral treatment in the name of the mighty dollar, abortions, slavery, and prostitution expanded. In an area that Tom DeLay called a pure example of capitalism at its finest, Reed was more concerned about protecting the rights of the Chinese manufacturers to enslave women and children. And what is worse is that he used Christians and their faith to protect this way of life. Good to see yet again Christians were used in Reed’s desire to get more money and power.

So go ahead and say Cagle sided with Clinton and unions. In this case, you can count me in with unions and Clinton over pimps, slave masters, and Chinese manufacturers abusing the label “Made in America”. It’s sad to see Reed did more to protect Chinese manufacturers than the people they exploited. Reed and Chinese manufacturers….exploiters of God’s creation….all for the almighty dollar.

By jpetz

July 13, 2006 9:48 AM | Link to this

Jesus Must Be Laughing or Crying

The Good Lord must be looking down with great disdain at the politicians who invoke his name whilst they pander to this group or that group for money and votes. Both Reed and Cagle are guilty of this because each thinks the way to a primary voter’s heart is to invoke Christianity again and again.

But tell me, what is Christian about forced labor in the Marianna Islands? Ralph Reed joined forced with felon Jack Abramoff and Tom DeLay to ensure forced labor was the order of the day simply because of their hatred for unions. I’m no union fan but there was a time in this country when unions were desperately needed, mostly during the Robber Baron period of the late 19th and early 20th century. Just because unions have outplayed their usefulness here doesn’t mean they are not needed elsewhere.

There is nothing Christian in what Ralph Reed says or does. He is a politician, just like his mentor Pat Robertson. These are rich fat cats who sucker punch the gullible with hoiler than thou rhetoric. If Cagle does win the primary, I hope he comes to the center and reached out to moderates. As for Reed, he can go back to Wash DC and continue to stir the pot of divisiveness, a task he is very good at.

By jpetz

July 13, 2006 9:59 AM | Link to this

I’ll Take Bill Clinton

To those invoking Bill Clinton as a way to attack Casey Cagle, I’ve got news for you. Bill Clinton left office with 68% approval. Even during the Lewinsky saga he remained in the 60s. Yes, Clinton committed adultery time and again and for that God will judge him accordingly.

But I suspect God won’t find President Bush without sin considering he has sent thousands to their deaths and maimed tens of thousands more because of an unnecessary war he launched in Iraq. Iraq is an unmitigated disaster and history will hold Bush accountable. I find it amusing and shameful that Ralph Reed supports the war but isn’t willing to fight it himself. Just more pandering from the religious right who talk a good game but rarely find the time to put their own life on the line.

Most of fighting is being done by blue-collar, DEMOCRATIC families. Its so ironic, the religious right rails against the liberal Democrats whose families make up the bulk of the army and Marine Corps fighting in Iraq. Jesus must be frowning.

By John C Fremont

July 13, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

OH POOR “Little Debbie” I hear desperation in your voice especially as you try and pair Cagle and Clinton—didn’t you hear George W. in his State of the Union address say that two of his Daddy’s favorite baby-boomers are both turning 60 this year—former President Bill Clinton and George W. himself. I hope you aren’t given to drink!

By sandyspringsbob

July 13, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

I had been on the fence until this past week. Never had heard of Casey Cagle before, but his attacks on Ralph are ridiculous. I don’t care about arguing about the Clinton view vs. the Union view vs. the Reagan views, but to have the ethics to say Ralph Reed was paid to cover up Child Prostitution and Forced Abortions crossed the line.

I’ve not always been a fan of Ralph Reed, but that’s ridiculous. I think Casey lost more votes than he won on this one.

By No Dog in this Hunt

July 13, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

Debbie…Debbie…Debbie I thank you for your response to my post but…look at my name. You call me a Cagle supporter in your resonse. I’m not! You said I posted anti-Reed crap. Did no such thing. If you’ll reread my post I was merely making a joke. You have every right to vote for and support Mr. Reed. Good for you though. Howeverit appears you do so without reservation. If I was voting for either I would certainly have my doubts. You are entitled to your opinion but it appears you are in the category of being able to dish it out but unfortunately not take it.

I’m sorry if I offended you by using the word “blindly”. Maybe I should have said “a blogger who sees things as she wants not as they are.

Like I said I won’t be voting for Cagle but Debbie Ralph Reed is running for Ralph Reed, not you, not me, not any Georgian.