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By Franklin

June 16, 2006 12:29 AM | Link to this

And like most Christians “remember the Sabbath to keep it holy”. Is that why I see so few people in Churches on the Sabbath—Saturday?? And why that is probably Chick’Filet’s busiest day??—the Sabbath—Saturday!!—not Sunday!!— which is the Catholic Sabbath—NOT the Old Testament Sabbath of the 10 Commandment fame! Come on—call a spade a spade for most Christians in the US it is only the nine literal commandments and of course I’m a legalist —that’s what the 10 Commandments are all about—laws when you speak of them!

By Matt

June 16, 2006 07:55 AM | Link to this

Sorry Franklin, but last time I checked Catholics hold mass on every Saturday of the year.

Nice article!

By GodHatesTrash

June 16, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this

Westmoreland is a redneck idiot. Of course he doesn’t know the 10 Commandments.

The Georgia GOP House Reps are a pack of braying hyenas. Trash all.

By Jack Dill

June 16, 2006 08:35 AM | Link to this

I don’t know what Matt checked, but he is wrong about Catholics saying Mass “on every Saturday of the year.”

By Jeff

June 16, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

Church boy all my life, let’s see how I fair:

Remember the Sabbath and Keep it Holy. Not murder. Not covet they neighbor’s wife. Not covet they neighbor’s possessions. Honor thy father and thy mother. Not bear false witness

That’s it off the top of my head… from someone who could once name every single book of the Bible in order…

By getoverit

June 16, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

This is just one more example of Republican hypocrisy. He wants to push his moral beliefs (despite not being able to name them) on others. Why in the world people keep voting for these clowns dumbfounds me.

By Matt

June 16, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this

I checked my church bulletin, that’s what. Every Saturday at 5:30pm sharp. In addition to every M-F and every Sunday. Pick a day… there’s a mass held. But I digress…

By Jack Dill

June 16, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this

Matt, the Catholic liturgy prohibits the saying of Mass on the Saturday before Easter. check the Palm Sunday bulletin from your collection….

By Matt

June 16, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this

Palm Sunday bulletin says Easter Vigil at 8:30 pm the Saturday night before Easter. And yes, I attended.

But again, I digress…sorry to get off topic.

By Joe

June 16, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this

In Genesis, it says something to the tune of, “and then there was night, and then there was day…” which is why in certain older traditions, the day begins at sunset, not at sunrise. This may explain the Catholic Mass on Saturday evening. In any case, I can tell you for sure, that’s why Jewish holidays begin the evening before — because every day starts at sundown.

Hopefully I’ve helped either clarify things a little, or confuse them a little more.

By the way, aren’t there some positive commandments? You know, like, remember there is only one god? Why does everybody have to just remember the negative stuff? Such cynics you conservatives tend to be!

By Jeff

June 16, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

Joe,

Did ya know that the “honor thy father” commandment is the ONLY one with a promise? Sunday School teacher once pointed it out… only reason I remember that one above some others…

BTW: The promise is “that your life may be longer”…

By Matt

June 16, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

Yep Joe, you’re exactly right. That is the reason for Saturday vigil masses (although daily masses are still held every day, except for early Saturday morning/afternoon masses the day before Easter :) ). I just point out that technically they are still held on a Saturday for the literalists out there like Franklin who complain about folks worshipping on Sunday.

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

Matt—yes most large Catholic Churches provide the worshipper with the opportunity to remember the Sabbath to keep it holy on Saturday—but many remote smaller parishes when given the option opt for Sunday only—as Jesus and His own disciples worked on the Sabbath to the dismay of the Pharisees. I too am a practicing Catholic in which my Church is chiefly responsible along with the ancient competing religion of Mithraism for moving to primarily Sunday as the Resurrection also occured on Sunday—not the Sabbath! But then maybe like you “I should digress”! For the literal 10 Commandmenteers this is a very serious infraction.

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

Matt—also, by the way—don’t forget there are 603 more commandments in the Old Testament not just TEN—no I am not a literalist! Far far from it except at the Eucharist which is INDEED literal!

By Matt

June 16, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this

Amen to that! I won’t get into a long debate on Saturday/Sunday being the Sabbath on this blog as it is fairly irrevalent to the topic at hand and has nothing to do with politics. I’ve heard both sides of the argument, as I’m sure you have, and accept the Sunday Sabbath as the Church teaches. But for those who acknowledge Saturday, I just wanted to point out that we do it on Saturday too. I just had you pegged as an anti-Catholic who wanted to condemn Catholics without acknowleging they offer Saturday services while a lot of Protestant denominations do not.

By Gavin McBrewer

June 16, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this

I can’t find a political blog to write to so why not write here? The AJC is a disgrace to ATL. Just look at how they jump to Campbell’s defense, completely one-sided. Their headline is about Campbell’s “letter” from his mother, as if to say, “SEE ATLANTA!, He IS innocent!!!” When he was sentenced, all the paper could do was give his rebuttal and use the word “abomination” when referring to the verdict. They barely quoted the federal judge’s comments at all. The AJC headline was like saying, “Ex-Mayor wrongly convicted”. And look back at Al-Zarqawi being killed. The AJC headlines with “Al-Zarqawi Murdered” and then here’s the kicker; The very next line links to “family reacts”. Then they proceed to describe Al-Zarqawi’s brother and his poor 2 kids. Nevermind the fact that he sawed people’s heads off. Let’s trash the US military for killing a sweet man and father of 2. The AJC is trash and you are a traitor for reading it.

By dave

June 16, 2006 10:46 AM | Link to this

… read the comment above! That is so true!

By Drew Stanton

June 16, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

HA! He’s right. Read that comment above! Those AJC writers jump to the defense of Campbell. They live in a fantasy world where Campbell, Ex-Sheriff Dorsey, OJ, and Al-Zarqawi are honest, innocent men.

By Chuck

June 16, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

To: Gavin McBrewer

I’m no apologist for the AJC, but to say they sided with Campbell is stupid. Ask the Campbell camp whether they feel the AJC’s been fair to Campbell. They’ll say, “Hell, no!!” Go back and read Mike King’s editorial for the AJC just the other day indicating Campbell got exactly what he deserved and was lucky he didn’t get more time.

By dumbfounded

June 16, 2006 11:10 AM | Link to this

If you leave out adultery (since many republicans don’t count that one) Westmoreland got 3 out of 9 Commandments. Even on the Governor Perdoofus grading curve, that’s not enough to pass.

By RepublicanDawg

June 16, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this

Hey, dumbfounded: When are you going to post something that adds to the discussion? You’re a typical Demonrat-criticize Republicans with no solutions to any real-world problems. Democrats write speeaches about hometown values, defending the troops, and other code phrases that just don’t work anymore. Do you actually think the voters are that dumb? Every two years, we hear about the “New Democrat”-while the party continues to wander to the left like Moses in the wilderness. While many of the ignorant masses buy the “Bush is responsible for high gas prices”, most voters are beginning to understand Democratic domestic policies that oppose new drilling and no real alternatives haven’t helped, short or long-term. People like you are exactly the reason, even with all our problems, that Republicans will stay in power for the forseeable future. You’re quick to criticize, but offer no real solutions to real life problems.

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

Dumbfounded—Amen to George Bush and his actually doing something about legalizing these great immigrants to our country—following in the footsteps of the great Ronald Reagan in granting virtual amnesty. Yes Amen. The Republicans and Democrats in the US Senate together have come to Bush’s support. Let’s see what the wimp-controlled Republican led House of Representatives does to support their strong leader. This is one Democrat that supports Bush and these great immigrants—although from your name “dumbfounded” I can’t figure out what your ancestry is other than probably just stupid—what is your immigrant heritage?

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

RepublicanDawg—your ancestry is clear—you are canine and sound like one too. Why don’t you let more articulate Republicans speak for your GOP?

By Shannon, M.Div.

June 16, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

10 commandments?

For Jews, it’s like this: 1) I am the Lord your G-d who has taken you out of the land of Egypt. 2) You shall have no other gods but me. 3) You shall not take the name the Lord your G-d in vain. 4) You shall remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. 5) Honor your mother and father. 6) You shall not murder. 7) You shall not commit adultery. 8) You shall not steal. 9) You shall not bear false witness. 10) You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor.

Catholic version: 1) I, the Lord, am your God. you shall not have other gods besides me. 2) You shall not take the name of the Lord, your God, in vain. 3) Remember to keep holy the Lord’s Day. 4) Honor your father and your mother. 5) You shall not kill. 6) You shall not commit adultery. 7) You shall not steal. 8) You shall not bear false witness. 9) You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife. 10) You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods.

Protestant 10 commandments: 1) You shall have no other gods but me. 2) You shall not make unto you any graven images. 3) You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain. 4) You shall remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. 5) Honor your mother and father. 6) You shall not murder. 7) You shall not commit adultery. 8) You shall not steal. 9) You shall not bear false witness. 10) You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor.

By Shannon, M.Div.

June 16, 2006 02:33 PM | Link to this

By the way, it’s not just Exodus 20:1-17… one can also find a similar list in Deuteronomy 5:6-21. I’m a Christian Democrat. I don’t think the Ten Commandments have any business being posted in our government buildings for several reasons. 1) It’s inhospitable to those of other faiths. Hospitality is an important Christian virtue. If I go to India and see the dharmic codes of law on the walls of the court system, I’m going to wonder if I’ll get true justice as an outsider and a Christian. 2) Whose version do we post? The Jewish version is the oldest, followed by the Catholic (which deliberately revised the Hebrew version), followed by the Protestant (which deliberately revised the Catholic version). This question alone should take it out of the realm of serious discussion. 3) It cheapens my faith to link it to a weak, watered-down civil religion. If you post the 10 commandments on the walls of our government, it’s a cheap gesture. It doesn’t stop every lying politico who claims the name of Jesus while accepting bribes; propogating war (and therefore killing); bearing false witness against neighbors; putting the gods of money, oil, and conspicuous consumption far above God; going out to eat on the Lord’s Day and therefore preventing others from keeping Sunday as a day of rest—good grief. At least have the decency to take the fish off your car and don’t pretend to honor God by compounding your sins of trivilaity with more and more lies.

By geekboy

June 16, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

Maybe Republicans should stick to Jesus’ commandment, it is easier to memorize since he had only one:

“This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.” (John 15:12)

By Shannon, M.Div.

June 16, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

Finally (hmm, I’m on a roll), this whole story just proves something I’ve privately suspected for years. The people who are screaming the loudest to put the 10 commandments on the walls of government offices are doing so because they never bothered to learn them in the first place. Hmph.

Republicans annoy me. When Jesus was here, he didn’t have harsh words for the prostitutes and poor people looking for handouts. No, He saved his harshest condemnations for religious HYPOCRITES.

By Clint Johnson

June 16, 2006 02:43 PM | Link to this

It is definitely very important for us to remember the Ten Commandments, but what is even more important for us is to remember the Great Commandments that Christ gave us:

By

June 16, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

Geekboy—I kind of like the two commandments Jesus offered (which in my view encompass the whole of the 10 commandments): Love God with everything you are, and love your neighbor as yourself.

I note that Matthew doesn’t record this as “love your neighbor as yourself so long as your neighbor isn’t gay, hasn’t ever had an abortion, has what you consider an acceptable socio-economic status, looks like you, talks like you, thinks like you, etc.” No, it’s “love your neighbor as yourself.”

Who is my neighbor? Any ol’ bum you come across, thank you very much, even if they’re of a different nationality AND a different religion which you consider to be corrupt and/or false. That’s the message of the Good Samaritan parable, or have you forgotten?

Matthew 22: 34-40, Luke 10:25-37

By GodHatesTrash

June 16, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this

All your blah, blah, blah about the 10 Commandments can’t obscure the fact that Westmoreland is an idiot hypocritical redneck.

The clip from Colbert is hilarious, and pathetic.

The saddest thing, though, is that we pay that POS Westmoreland’s salary.

By Burdell

June 16, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

Shannon, M.Div., I’m a Christian Republican and I agree with you.

Lynn messed up on this one, but compared to most of the folks in Washington he’s been doing a pretty good job.

By Shannon, M.Div.

June 16, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

GodHatesTrash—I was just trying to speak in a language that Republicans can understand (Biblese). A prof of mine introduced me to the term “Biblioatry.” I like it. It’s where one idolizes the Bible over the God of the Bible.

I love the Colbert Report. I’m not watching the clip because it would spoil the show! Kudos to Westmoreland for bravely going on the Report, boos to Westmoreland for being an idiot, and kudos to Colbert for skewering the good representative (I’m sure he did, as he always does).

By Dismayed

June 16, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this

Democrat. Republican. Catholic. Protestant. Practicer of Mithraism. What in the world does ANY of this have to do with whether Mr. Westmoreland could name off of the commandments? You guys are all REALLLLLY angry people. Lighten up or you’re all gonna die early of a heart attack or stroke.

By Pat Robertson

June 16, 2006 03:08 PM | Link to this

all republicans will burn in hell for their damn hypocrisy!…god told me this, otherwise I would have never said it…

By Shannon, M.Div.

June 16, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this

Burdell! I can’t agree with a Republican or my head will explode. (Just kidding). I have to admit, my representative is Cynthia McKinney, and I’m no fan of hers, either. (Sheesh). These days, I’m starting to feel like I don’t like anyone. Used to like McCain from your side, but I lost respect for him after he ‘played nice’ with Bush when Bush pulled what he did in South Carolina back in ‘00.

By GodHatesTrash

June 16, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

@ Shannon,

Have you read Scandal of the Evangelical Mind by Mark Noll?

I’m paraphrasing, but he starts by saying the scandal of the evangelical mind is that there isn’t one.

I’m tired of being moralized to by filthy ignorant heathen yahoos like Westmoreland.

By Linda

June 16, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this

Just a reminder for all of us, especially those who have to drive home…Jesus said in Matthew 5:22 that if you call your brother a fool, you’re in danger of hellfire. Scary.

By GodHatesTrash

June 16, 2006 03:52 PM | Link to this

@ Linda,

To call Westmoreland anything other than a hypocritical redneck fool is to bear false witness.

By Tommy

June 16, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

Linda, he’s a fool, fool, fool….you are, too, fool…

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

Original Alabama Supreme Court Justice and Chief Ten Commandmenteer of Alabama—Roy Moore— was just last week defeated overwhelmingly in the Republican primary for govwernor. Even Alabama Republicans are beginning to see through this right-wing religious hypocrisy. The Republican Party would really clean house if they rid themselves of the hypocrites like Ralph Reed who campaigned in Alabama against the lottery and now supports the lottery in Georgia.

By WOW

June 16, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

What is most amazing about this blog is I have read next to nothing that actually dealt with the article at hand! What I have read and learned is that the world is still filled with idiotic, hypocritical people who profess with their mouth, but have no love in their hearts. To the one who spoke against the AJC, if you feel that strongly about against them, why do you continue to read the paper, and then have the nerve to comment on this blog? GET A LIFE AND GROW UP!

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

Christian Democrats and Christian Republicans must keep Jesus’s command to love one’s enemy—therefore there should be no hate between these two different Christian groups. There should be only love between these enemies. PERIOD! A non-Christian Republican or a non-Christian Democrat can hate each other as they are not born again in Jesus Christ.

By Franklin PhD history

June 16, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this

Shannon MDiv should be commended for her thoughtful roll and eloquence. Also please note from a historical vantage—the Roman Empire DID NOT conquer Christianity—Christianity DID conquer the Roman Empire—ushering in the Age of Faith or the Middle Ages in which the Catholic and Orthodox Churches were in control and who canonized the New Testament!.

By Cherish

June 16, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

Franklin…

How do you know that the sabbath is actually Saturday? Because our MODERN day calendars say so? The calendars may of changed over time. Or…how do we know that sabbath was a word meant for “first”, not “seventh”?

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

Cherish—modern day calendars are irrelevant to the ancient Hebrew Sabbath which has always been Saturday. Modern and ancient times may have tried to change the Scripture but the Scripture itself has not changed depending upon which of the many scriptures out there you choose to read.

By B-boy

June 16, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this

I know what I am about to say will offend many of you good Christians, but I have reached my limit. Jesus, a rabbi who preached what countless rabbis had taught before him. His teaching are not new or unique. If you were to study the teaching of the great rabbi’s that came before Jesus, say Hillel, you would find the same concepts that Jesus taught.

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this

B-boy———-A Christian AMEN to B-boy—Jesus was indeed a product of the day and age in which he lived— the mixing and mingling of the end of the Hellenistic Age which was a time of religious syncretism.

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

What a life this current blog is—just think it has been so great it kept me from Happy Hour!

By Shannon, M.Div.

June 16, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

B-Boy, no arguments here about Jesus’ teaching. Certainly others said love your neighbor as yourself before Jesus did. Would say that Jesus, like the other rabbis, put His own spin on things. :)

By GodHatesTrash

June 16, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this

God hates trash.

Westmoreland is trash.

He is an ignorant, arrogant buffoon who lies about his relationship with God.

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this

Hey everybody—back from a brief Happy Hour—why don’t we just post on every courthouse in the USA—“Judge not, that ye—YOU—be not judged.” I bet that will put our “judicial tyranny” out of business1

By RL

June 16, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this

I am sure that littl ‘ol Lynn could sure tell you that the bible says gay’s shouldn’t marry…

What a hypocrite…

By John

June 16, 2006 07:35 PM | Link to this

It’s quite reasonable to love your neighbor and still hate his sins. All Christians are sinners. The only difference between followers of Christ and others, is that the sins of Christians are forgiven. The wages of sins is death, but Christ paid for our sins on the cross.

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 07:45 PM | Link to this

Whoa RL and John—-RL—what about the bisexual relationship between King Saul’s son Jonathan and David who kissed and wept until David “exceeded” and David was judged righteous in God’s eyes? Of course we all know David was promiscuous anyway with ALL his women—just maybe not as bad as his son Solomon—AND to you John are you biting into Martin Luther’s admonition to “Sin boldly” because if you are saved you are ALREADY FORGIVEN? WHY EVEN SAY THE LORD’S PRAYER—“forgiving our trespasses”— WHICH MANY PURITANS REFUSED TO RECITE AS THEY WERE ALREADY “FORGIVEN”? Hey—let’s calm down here and as Isaiah said “let us reason together—-the hated LBJ’s favorite passage.

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this

Fellow readers—I just learned that Rep. Cynthia McKinney is not to be indicted—Pray for me that I get the “plank out of my own eye before I criticize the speck of dust in Rep. McKinney’s eye.”

By LWG

June 16, 2006 08:27 PM | Link to this

Westmoreland will forever be known as Three Commandment Lynn. The other seven obvious aren’t important to Republicans.

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 08:35 PM | Link to this

I don’t know “3 Commandmenteer Rep. Lynn Westmoreland but if he is not saved let us pray that he be saved as he can be saved without knowing the 10 Commandments—on the other hand if he is Jewish—he’d better polish up on the 610 other Commandments.

By Bjork

June 16, 2006 08:46 PM | Link to this

According to Jesus the only grounds for divorce is adultery—and you better make sure “who you marry” because if they are in adultery you may unwittingly be too. That is a clear Commandment that Westmoreland forgot.The biggest threat to marriage in the USA is divorce not bestiality nor homosexuality marriage. However, Edward Albee wrote his last play about a man wanting to marry Sylvia—his goat—and leave his wife.

By Franklin

June 16, 2006 08:50 PM | Link to this

Amen to you Bjork—and the so-called Bible -Belt has the highest rate of divorce in the country. Maybe the South is better described as the Divorce Belt!

By Ugotta B. Kidding

June 16, 2006 09:54 PM | Link to this

I was just reading over some of the comments posted on this subject today and it occurred to me: Is it not the height of hypocrisy that liberal Democrats are lecturing the rest of us on the Bible. Especially since in NO WAY do they want the 10 Commandments posted anywhere. They DO NOT want any kind of (Christian) prayers in schools. (You’re not even allowed to pray before a football game or graduation) MOST of them stand for just about everything that the Bible says is wrong!!! The ACLU is their champion. But they claim that they “don’t mind you praying in your churches” —- YET!!!

By Jeff

June 17, 2006 12:16 AM | Link to this

Shannon and Franklin,

I agree with the fatc that Jesus was a product of His age. HOWEVER, he was also Messiah - Cristos in Greek, where we derive Christ. As Messiah, His teachings thus superceded - and, in fact, fulfilled - all others before him. The weirdest thing about Jesus Christ of Nazareth - and I freely admit that even 2000 yrs later he remains an enigma that in many ways must be viewd by faith - is that while not a legalist, he did uphold Law. Indeed, the Pharisees of the day had so twisted and perverted the orginal Law that when Christ came and explained the real meanings, they tried to kill the guy!

Application to today: Yes, hypocrites are EVERYWHERE - on BOTH sides of the aisle. So while we are free to be mavericks and buck the system, we must be careful to remain true to the Word. And according to the Word, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by Me.” Not through Buddha, Muhammad, good works, or anything else. Jesus Christ. “Behold, the path to Hell is wide but the path to the Gates of Heaven is narrow”… sorry, don’t remember the exact phrasing there.

BTW: When you attempt to criticize me, and I know you will, you might want to check into my qualifications… I’m a preacher myself, and I’m pretty highly educated. More than that, I’ve got friends who are even more highly educated/ more knowledgable about the Word than myself. And I share one thing (among many) with the orginal disciples: I don’t hold any thing back, even when the Truth may hurt my cause.

By Inman Parker

June 17, 2006 04:39 AM | Link to this

This discussion has gotten a bit off track. I implore anyone who hasn’t seen the actual interview to go to YouTube and search the congressman’s name. Then defend his performance.

When Colbert asks him if he is the “do-nothingest” representative in the house (since he’s introduced zero pieces of legislation since elected) he counters with the fact that there is one other rep who has done nothing and points out that “he’s a democrat.”

Then, after insisting that The Commandments need to be in court rooms more than any other place, he can only name three.

I’m disgusted with both parties, but this was just sad and embarassing.

By John

June 17, 2006 04:39 AM | Link to this

This discussion has gotten a bit off track. I implore anyone who hasn’t seen the actual interview to go to YouTube and search the congressman’s name. Then defend his performance.

When Colbert asks him if he is the “do-nothingest” representative in the house (since he’s introduced zero pieces of legislation since elected) he counters with the fact that there is one other rep who has done nothing and points out that “he’s a democrat.”

Then, after insisting that The Commandments need to be in court rooms more than any other place, he can only name three.

I’m disgusted with both parties, but this was just sad and embarassing.

By Franklin

June 17, 2006 07:57 AM | Link to this

Jeff—Amen—you are right on target that Jesus unlike the other rabbis who put their on spin on similar teacings of Jesus was the Messiah to you and to me—but NOT to all. Your and my faith hold Jesus to be the Messiah—but we are not all that are in the in this country—so why not post “Judge not that you be not judged”—our Savior’s words on every courthouse in America. The fact is our faith collides with our state which values religious freedom of ALL kinds not just ours.

BTW—I don’t give a r*t’S *ss about “education level or profession or highly placed friends who are authorities” what I care about is MY own faith in Jesus Christ—not my neighbor’s faith of Judaism that rejects our Messiah.

By buck

June 17, 2006 07:58 AM | Link to this

Westmoreland is such a MORON and a hypocrite. Why try to saddle the everyone with religious commandments you can not even recall yourself? Might you simply trying to win the favor of a particular group merely with symbolism and little substance? Even in a secular context might this also show that some of these all important commandments have no relevance today?

By GodHatesTrash

June 17, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

What kind of trash elects trash like Westmoreland?

God hates them all.

By Franklin

June 17, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this

Jesus was a liberal —- dispensing with the Old Covenant and establishing the New Covenant. It is amazing the number of believers who fail to see this—Jesus’ Covenant being a much more difficult Covenant of constantly pulling His followers out of their comfort zones to deal with prostitues, the poor, the lepers, and the tax collectors etc. If you are comfortable with Jesus your Savior —it is time to re-evaluate your relationship with Him and get back out of your comfort zone!

By James Johnson

June 17, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

As a Seventh-Day Adventist, I would like to state that Saturday is the Sabbath. There is no biblical directive to honor Sunday over the Sabbath. Sunday is never called the Sabbath in the bible. The Catholic Church claims responsibility for transferring the solemnity of Sabbath to Sunday as a show of her power and authority on Earth as God’s emissary. Now there are some others who disagree with this as they claim some Christians were honoring Sunday before Constantine’s (The first Christian Emperor of the Roman Empire) edict. However…..I digress.

I’m a liberal…It’s that an oxymoron? Seventh-Day Adventist Christian(Our teaching range from moderate to extreme conservative…we don’t even drink and some won’t go to the movies or theater) yet I’m a liberal. So as happens when most minorities speak their opinions are taken to reflect the entire group…let me say this is MY opinion and not a reflection of General Adventist teachings or thoughts….Actually Adventist are like traditional Baptist and believe in the separation of church and state…another digression.:)

I’m glad this happened. I just wish it had happened at a press conference or on the national news.:) I don’t believe this was an incident of nervousness. I doubt the representative knew the 10 commandments. However, in his defense, I don’t believe most American Christians know them. You want to go for GOLD…ask someone to recite them in order!

This just goes to serve my comments on this issue. This is another diversionary tactic of the right. This issue is so unimportant and mote. You have Christians complaining about the 10commandsment being posted on public property?! I’m originally from Kentucky where they really are over reacting. If people are really concerned about this…they should do what was done in Bulitt county south of Louisville, they actually bought signs with the commandment written and posted them in their front yards!:) Now that’s grass roots activism. Seriously, how many CHURCHES have the 10commandments in prominent display? If these Christians are so concerned with this, then they could easily post the commandment in the front of their churches. How many more churches are there in the south than court houses?! You’d have the commandment on every corner of town and in between!:) You won’t hear that though…because no that doesn’t get votes!!!

Wake up people! I’m a Christian but it disturbs me that so many of my Christian brothers and sisters don’t actually use their brains. As one liberal said, “If they are Christians and want to see the world changed for the better, why not actually post something that Jesus said. How about the Sermon on the Mount? Blessed are the poor, the meek, et al.”

By Franklin

June 17, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

Amen to James Johnson. As a Christian I far prefer Jesus’ Beatitudes to the 10 Commandments—yet not only can most Christians not name the 10 Commandments neither can they recite Jesus’ Beatitudes.

Place the Beatitudes in your yard if you are a Christian.

Place the 613 Commandments of the Old Testament in your yard if you are Jewish.

By Bjork

June 17, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

I have heard from Republican fiends in the 8th District how weak 3 Commandment Westmoreland is. They will not vote for him and many are now even considering a Democrat who would be less embarassing than 3 Commandment Lynn.

By GodHatesTrash

June 18, 2006 09:01 AM | Link to this

Let’s face it - Westmoreland’s redneck KKKhristianity is a gutter religion.

The sanctimonious self-righteous son of a britch will burn for eternity.

By Smart Voter

June 18, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

It seems to me that there are too many stone throwers out there among the “e-Christians.” Lynn W. lives his life as an example…given a less “gotcha” environment than the media loves, he could have given a soul-felt “on the mount” sermon. As for the rest of us…we would fail the test a lot faster! All the more reason to post the 10 Commandments on the door of every building…every lunchroom menu…every restroom stall…and every television screen. Maybe the FCC should try a little subliminal messaging.

By Franklin

June 18, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

Smart Voter—-Great news about the unknown Westmoreland—but don’t you think a Christian should opt for the Beatitudes over the 10 Commandments displayed all over the place— after all the New Testament takes precedent over the Old Testament

By GodHatesTrash

June 18, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

Southern fundamentalism is violent garbage. It is the KKKhristianity of the KKKrusader and the KKKluxer.

It is the KKKhristianity of the burning cross and the bloody flag; it is all about death, destruction, bloodshed and Armageddon.

By IMF

June 18, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Smart Voter, if all of us could name just the three commandments that Westmoreland named, that’s all we need to know. Those are the only one’s that relate to our legal code. I see no need to remind everyone that they can’t be Hindu or that they can’t drool over their neighbor’s new H2. As for the video, that’s some funny stuff right there…do-nothingest…Ha!

By Franklin

June 18, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

Hey IMF—most Christians have chopped the 613 Commandments of the Old Testament to only the so-called 10—or 9 Commandments whatever. Westmoreland’s recollection of only 3 is very much in the Christian tradition of deleting and excising the Old Testament as the Christian lives under a totally New Covenant compared to that of the Jews which is the Old Testament.

By bjork

June 18, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this

To God Hates Trash especially—-the Republicans of the 8th district in 2004 had the opportunity to nominate a very well-qualified conservative African-American —Daryl Glenn—to represent them. Obviously to the 8th District’s mentality—rascism must still be very strong and I guess that is where you are coming from in your description of Westmoreland as pandering to the Klan mentality which God in fact despises as Moses’ wife was a woman once described “as black as the ace of spades” and God struck Moses’ sister down with leporsy for protesting the marriage.

By UGA 72

June 19, 2006 03:39 AM | Link to this

Sonny Perdue refuses to debate his primary opponent. I wonder what he’s afraid of? What’s more I wonder what the State Republican Party is thinking, they take candidates money and then spend it on their opponents. Does anyone think those Republican Primary voters who don’t vote for the incumbent will turn around and vote for the jerks they voted against in the primary. Wake up and smell what you’re shovelin’ Al Potvin, it is the product of a Bull’s south end if he’s heading North.

By ?

June 19, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

It appears that some of you have lost sight of the fact that the Colbert Report is COMEDY… Rep. Westmoreland shot almost 2 hours of interview for the 5 minute segment and they used the parts that were the funniest. The Congressman’s responses on the show weren’t even the responses to the actual questions (it’s called editing). Rep. Westmoreland doesn’t take himself so seriously that he can’t take a joke… so he went along with the joke. By the way, in the actual interview, he got 9 out of 10 off the top of his head, that’s why Colbert say’s “to remember to keep the Sabbath holy” ay the end when he shakes hands. As for “Godhatestrash”—you seem so bitter. Are you really Dylan Glenn under another name? Either way, kiss it.

By buck

June 19, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

So, a politican willingly allowed himself to look like a total hypocrite and a buffoon on national TV for the sake of humor? I wouldn’t advise that strategy in the future.

By hotboyjim

June 19, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

No suprise here. Republicans, er Christian Conservatives always cite the Bible and Ten Commandments yet they don’t even know them. I think they need to pay more attention to the Bible and their communities and less time forcing their religion down our throats. By the way, I am a Christian and beleive the 10 commandments should only be posted in a historical context.

By hotboyjim

June 19, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

No suprise here. Republicans, er Christian Conservatives always cite the Bible and Ten Commandments yet they don’t even know them. I think they need to pay more attention to the Bible and their communities and less time forcing their religion down our throats. By the way, I am a Christian and beleive the 10 commandments should only be posted in a historical context.

By GodHatesTrash

June 19, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

Westmoreland is a pathetic redneck, as are most of his supporters. His whole life is a joke. But it is more tragedy than comedy when such a stupid rustic like Westmoreland gains political office…

By Lash

June 19, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

You guys are too harsh. At least he knew they were in the Old Testament. And he can count to ten. I’m an agnostic who favors prayer in school and displaying the Ten Commandments on every flat surface in the USA. I particulary like the one about not coveting your neighbor’s democrat. If Hillary is elected president, I’d like to see Exodus 22:18 under every picture of her. As this thread illustrates Pubbies know how to pray and Demonrats know how to bray.

By Franklin

June 19, 2006 09:44 PM | Link to this

To By?

You mean as a “serious Christian” Rep. Westmoreland is really willing to turn his faith into comedy on television?

What kind of faith does this politician Westmoreland have to be so deliberately funny at the expense of true Christian witness?

By romac

June 24, 2006 06:37 PM | Link to this

I saw only the Gingrey and Westmoreland interviews. Colbert made them both look like pluperfect idiots. I hope all Repubs take Kingston’s advice and appear on Colbert’s Report.