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By A Georgia Republican

April 24, 2006 01:55 AM | Link to this

This is interesting. I had thought that Tommie Williams was “officially” neutral or perhaps even for Reed. I know that one of his campaign consultants is working for Reed and his treasurer, Pat Tippett of Baxley is strongly behind Reed. If Sen. Williams is for Cagle, it must put him in an awkward position with these folks.

By Georgia Republican

April 24, 2006 06:36 AM | Link to this

If you thought Tommie Williams would support Ralph Reed, you need to get a new source of political information.

Tommie is strongly behind Casey Cagle, and I am sure he realizes that a vote for Ralph Reed in the primary is a vote for a Democratic Lt. Governor in the general. Reed is unelectable in a general election, and he also hurts the Governor.

By Debbie

April 24, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this

Georgia Republican, More scare tactics from the Cagle Camp. First you would have us to believe the Dems want Reed on the ticket and that is not ture.

A vote for Cagle is a vote for the Democratic Lt. Governor. Cagle is a wuss and will not fight. Reed will.

By Tony

April 24, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

Yeah, Ralph will fight…but for HIS interest or his DC buddies’ interest. When’s the last time he’s actually fought for the average hard working Georgian’s interest?

Debbie, you are the most dispicable party figure out there. You attack and slander people within your own party. Calling people a wuss? And Cagle’s people are bad? I’ve heard more mature words coming out of the mouth of a middle school student. And to think you’re a leader in a county party trying to build and unify.

Ladies and gentlemen…..Debbie and the rest of the Reed acolytes are the perfect example of what is to come under a Reed administration. Fire any Republican that even disagrees or remotely poses a threat and fill the positions with loyal brainless disciples who slash and burn and call names to their opponents and THEN play the victim.

God help us if these nuts win.

By Debbie

April 24, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this

Ralph is a likeable guy, but you just can’t trust him. He has lied to too many people too many times.

I have decided that I will be voting for Casey Cagle now.

By Spacey G

April 24, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

Yes, South Georgia: the backwoods burden we all must bear, here in the ATL. Bless their small hearts and minds.

Hmmm… I bet Ludacris could turn this comment into an entire rap song!

And since this fake blog doesn’t link back to the commenteer’s blog (shame), I’ll just invite ya’ll there myself:

http://spaceygreview.blogspot.com/2006/04/peel-my-grapes.html

By David

April 24, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

Don’t let Ralph Reed gamble with Georgia’s future!

By Howard

April 24, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

Tony, you are a hypocrite. You have slammed Reed and his supporters yet you take offense when someone does the same thing to your candidate.

By carl sears

April 24, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

Yes indeed. Po ole south Ga. The backwoods y’all Atlanta type self-imagined enlightened folks must bare. I sure wish we had all the murders, rapes, crime in general, race problems etc y’all “smart and better people” have. (sic)

By Debbie

April 24, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

What do you think Cagle is doing? He is slandering people, but you think it is ok because you don’t like Reed. You and other Cagle supporters have slammed Reed and his supporters, but it is ok because you agree with that position. How is that different?

Cagle slammed Reed about the Mark Taylor ad yet Cagle’s own campaign manager (Joel) actually played Taylor in the ad. Talk about hypocrisy. I guess Cagle can’t be bothered by facts.

“It’s disheartening to know that some of the horrible, horrible ads that were run in this process were actually directed by my opponent. They were not factual. They were downright wrong,” Cagle said.

I have a major problem with elected Republicans donating money to elected Democrats as Cagle admitted he did. He admitted giving 1,000 to Mark Taylor to appease him after the 1998 election. Funny thing is I heard Taylor did not list it on his disclosure form..

By Howard

April 24, 2006 03:48 PM | Link to this

Tony, quit being a hypocrite. You see nothing wrong with Cagle and his supporters slandering Ralph and his supporters so what is the difference? You saying that is like the pot calling the kettle black.

By JackS

April 24, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

Debbie, repeating a thing doesn’t make it better or true.

I wish you Reed people would crawl back under your rocks. You’re really a weird bunch of looneys.

By Debbie

April 24, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this

I did not mean to post more than once. I received an error message each time I posted so I did not think the message was posted. I waited and it did not post so I posted again and kept receiving error messages. Must have been a gliche. My apologies but it was unintentional. It appears someone else also had that problem.

We Reed people are not going anywhere so get used to it.

It really must pain you Jack S to hear the truth about your candidate. Just can’t stand seeing it over and over again can you?

By Tony

April 24, 2006 09:12 PM | Link to this

Howard, are you as dumb as you sound? You call me a hypocrite? Can I call you an illiterate and dense fool? How many times have I said I am not a “Cagle Supporter”? How many times can you keep refusing to read that and acknowledge that? You have no grasp of the obvious and if it slammed you in the face, you’d still ignore it happened.

And Debbie, you ever wonder, if what you say is true, WHY Joel would now be working on the other campaign? Perhaps he worked for an unscrupulous boss especially with the “Kick A*” comments he had Skandalakis saying in his campaign. Perhaps Joel is a better man and decided to redeem himself by working for someone with more of a moral backbone. Perhaps that is why Senate leader Eric Johnson AND Cagle had a peace offering to Taylor for such a dispicable campaign that was the highlight of some political ethics classes in many colleges.

And if memory serves me correctly, Debbie didn’t you say that you had no idea that Ralph’s former employees were working for Cagle? Didn’t you ask for proof? And names? You sure wasted no time in spouting out Joel’s name here. The fax machine is spilling out the spoon-fed sound bites rather quickly now. I guess HQ is not taking into account their supporters making stupid comments that offset those previous soundbites.

You have a problem with a Republican giving money to a Democrat (for a legitimate reason I’d say) but I have problems with a lobbyist that pretends to be some high standing moral Christian while working for casinos and companies that ship jobs overseas and across the borders and supports ChiComs killing off dissidents and aborting unwanted babies….oh and those businesses that have a pretty open domestic partner plan. But you have no problem supporting that person. What a hypocrite.

By Former Cagle Guy

April 24, 2006 10:03 PM | Link to this

I have a real problem with Cagle giving Mark Taylor $1,000. What a hypocrite! His history is full of examples of his close ties to Barnes, but now we learn he gave money to Taylor???

And I don’t why Tommie Williams has come out for Cagle unless he is trying to save his job just in case he wins. I have lost any respect I had for Williams and yes he is in trouble with many grassroots folks in South Georgia who looked up to him.

By Savannah Thinker

April 25, 2006 12:54 AM | Link to this

Okay, let’s get real here. This Kay Godwin person down in Wayne County is down right frightening with her rigid far right Republican stances. She isn’t qualified to serve in office and hopefully Williams will trump her in the primary.

You see, city folk, down in the woods, some of these people drink NOTHING but Kool-Aid and heck, they make Debbie look unbiased.

Common sense and logic will prevail and Georgia Republicans will elect a state senator who has served Georgia well over a lobbyist with deep ties to several convicted felons.

By Debbie

April 25, 2006 06:56 AM | Link to this

Savannah thinker, get a grip on reality. Reed will win the primary. You can’t debate the issues and win a debate so you start attacking those that don’t go along with your mindset. I think GOP actitivists like you are pathetic.

You and the Cagle Team spread lies about Reed supporters just blindly following Reed. I fully investigated the Abramoff thing and don’t believe for a second that Reed did anything illegal. Y ou and the Cagle Team have been spreading lies about Reed is going to be indicted any day. Where is your evidence? Put up or shut up. I guess you guys have evidence the Federal Prosecutors and Senate Committee don’t have. Reed will not be indicted. Just more lies being spread by Cagle because he knows his only chance for winning is for Reed to either drop out of the race or be indicted.

Cagle and the State Senators tried to put pressure on Reed to step down. They tried to handpick the party nominee and that failed miserably. Those State Senators will have to answer to that when Reed runs away with the Primary. Voters are angry at the State Senators for trying to handpick the party nominee. Their reasoning was everyone else signed the letter. I guess if everyone was walking off a cliff they would ,too. I am sick of elected officials that just go along with the crowd and status quo. That is not courage. Courage is standing your ground when it is difficult to do so.

People make mistakes and I would much rather have someone that takes a strong stance, does not compromise, stands his ground through constant attacks, than someone like Cave In Casey that compromises, is weak and just wants to get along with the staus quo.

I am sick of those types of elected officials. When going gets tough, they get going-in the opposite direction! It is time we have a Reed Revolution and elect someone that will stand their ground and stick it to the liberals. Someone that is unwaivering.

Cagle had no problem killing the 2004 Tort Reform Package while taking constributions from the Trial Lawyers. Cagle had no problems accepting money from lobbyists. Cagle had no problem trying to appease Mark Taylor after the 1998 General Election by giving Taylor a $ 1,000 “contribution”. Taylor must have thought it was a bribe because it was not listed on Taylor’s disclosure form. Cagle had no problem trying to get along with Gov. Barnes by voting with 27 Democrats on the Drivers License Bill that would have identified non citizens.

Cagle does not want to make waves. It is easy to govern when your side is in power. The true test of character and strength is how you stand your ground when your side is not in power. Cagle failed that test miserably..

By Debbie

April 25, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this

I go to sleep at night with a picture of Ralph Reed under my pillow. When he loses this race, I am going to his new jungle compound in Guyana, where he has promised I can be in charge of mixing all of the Kool-Aid. I can’t wait!

By Howard

April 25, 2006 08:45 AM | Link to this

Whoever is pretending they are Debbie is showing a lack of maturity. You might also want to stop using crack or sniffing glue. I would suggest you go the Betty Ford Clinic. The effects are very evident.

Probably that Brian Laurens fellow, Tony, Savannah Thinker or some other distraught Cagle supporter that doesn’t like someone that challenges their crapola and knows that Cagle will be defeated soundly in the primary.

May I suggest you guys go on vacation in some far away place. The next few months are going too much for you to handle.

Tony, if Joel wanted to redeem himself by working for someone with moral or any other kind of backbone, then why is he working for Cagle?

It was well known knowledge that Joel was not associated with Reed long before Reed even announced he was running for Lt. Governor. It was also well known that Joel played Taylor in the ad. You made insinuations that there were former Reed staffers working for Cagle that had recently left Reed’s employee. That is not true. But then again, when did facts bother you?

As far as your fax machine spoon bites comment, why don’t you bother checking your facts first? I am sure you know Reed supporters, see if there has been anything coming from any email or fax machines from the Reed campaign about Joel and the Taylor ad or the contribution. You will find out you again are wrong. Go ahead, make my day and check it out and let’s see if you will admit you were wrong. I receive emails from the Reed campaign and none of those so called sound bites were mentioned.

By Howard

April 25, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.

-Marcus Aurelius

By Debbie

April 25, 2006 09:17 AM | Link to this

Who is “that Brian Laurens fellow?” Is Debbie Howard and Howard Debbie? Is Joel McElhannon Mark Taylor’s brother? The drama continues ….

By Philly

April 25, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

The Cagle Campaign and Joel McElhannon and their dirty tricks.

http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/ap_newfullstory.asp?ID=61022

By DonA

April 25, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

I think that perhaps you are selling the good people of S GA a bit short. Somehow I just don’t think that Mr. Photogenic Slick Reed is going to garner the support imagined in tha area. He might just “go down gamblin’”.

By Tony

April 25, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

Howard, you never cease to amaze me. Ever heard of rhetorical questions? You truly are the epitome of a blind and devoted Reed acolyte.

Again Howard there are some former Reed people working for Cagle. Call their office to verify. Instead of accusing me of not checking facts, why don’t you practice what you preach? My bad….you love to preach hate and insults.

And Howard, you truly are stupid. The comments about the fax machines were jokes. I don’t think Reed is that stupid to have documented proof of his guerilla warfare, VietCong, toe tag methods.

What does Joel not being associated with Reed long before this campaign have anything to do with the campaign? Perhaps he left long ago because of a moral gut check or some other reason? My comment was that maybe he knew how Ralph really was and wanted to make sure a more capable honest and ethical person won the seat?

You, Philly and Debbie are just so dense on the responses. If you even bothered to read the context these posts were made this discussion might go a little smoother. Instead you all say how negative and evil Cagle’s people are but reply with more venom than was thrown at you. Sounds like some with low self-esteem and lots of angry, bitter personality types.

By Tony

April 25, 2006 02:34 PM | Link to this

Hey everyone! Debbie says she’s investigated the Abramoff scandal. Call Gonzales and McCain and let them know Debbie already discovered everything and all is clear. Someone tell Gonzales Debbie needs a job in the investigative departments since she single-handedly took care of the Abramoff case and cleared Ralph. We can all thank Debbie for attempting to save the taxpayers millions of dollars. We can all sleep better at night knowing that public servants like Debbie have handled an issue it takes dozens of well-trained and educated investigators to do.

By Debbie

April 25, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

I investigated enough to know that Reed did not break the law . I am completely satisfied with that. I did not just blindly believe everything that Reed said. I checked it out myself. So give it a break.

All the rumors that Reed would be indicted will backfire. Nothing will happen and the ones spreading the rumor will end up with mud of their faces and look foolish.

By Former Cagle Guy

April 25, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

Yes, the Cagle charges against Reed have substance—right. All they’ve said is that Reed is a crook, Reed will be indicted, Reed committed a crime. Obviously the DC investigations have proven otherwise.

Why else would Giuliani, Barbour, Zell Miller, and others yet to come stick their necks out for Reed.

They are coming in for Reed because they are angry that a Republican would use this liberal media democratic witch hunt to harm a Republican who has done so much for our party and for obtaining our majority in Georgia.

And then come to find out Cagle donated $1,000 to Mark Taylor? Now we see the real Casey Cagle. I’ll take Reed any day.

Cagle is finished. Cry if you want to, but Reed has this one in the bag.

By Conservativecore

April 25, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

Well those who think that the investigation has found nothing should not be so quick to claim absolution. And Debbie you should read the laws and defintions of what a lobbyist is and then look at who and what Century strategies did. If nothing else there is reason to believe that Ralph qualifies as a lobbyist and should have registered as such and by not doing so is in violation of state and maybe federal laws. The last act of this show has yet to be written let alone seen. Patience grasshopper and you will see the truth.

By Debbie

April 25, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

I and the voters have heard this dribble for over year and nothing has come of it. Reed has been a target for years and nothing has come of it. Desparation from a dying campaign.

I have looked at the laws and there is a difference with being a lobbyist and a consultant.

Do you think Reed is stupid? Do you think he just developed political ambitions in the past year? Get in touch with reality. Reed is extremely intelligent and would not violate the law and ruin his political career. The only hope Cagle has is for Reed to be indicted or charged with a crime.

Patience young Skywalker and you will see the truth about Cagle. Cagle is not squeaky clean… In political campaigns Reed is the Jedi Master and Cagle is a Sith Lord…

By Conservativecore

April 25, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

Oh god one of those weird sci fi trekky types. If you read the definition of a lobbyist you would and new what Century strategies did you would hopefully if you are honest with yourself see what most of the rest of us have seen.

Ralph stupid? no but he is over eager and very intersted in his own headlines. I know first hand that is true. I have been both a consultant and a lobbyist and clearly know the difference.

As for those who are extremely intelligent who should have known better but ruined their career, the highway is littered with them. Both Ds and Rs are the carnage of over eager power hungry politcians.

Just to be clear we are in the year 2006 in this galaxy right?