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A chance to honor those who serve

As I write this, I am sitting in the James A. Haley Veterans Administration Hospital in Tampa Bay, Fla. trying to get my mind off of my father’s surgery.

I’m focusing instead on my surroundings, particularly the people. I’m listening to their stories and think about their present situations and the lessons they teach us.

It is a reminder that we should all be proud of who we are and what we have accomplished. There are at least three people who are probably not as fortunate and who have worked harder and given up far more.

I have had considerable interaction with current soldiers and Vets my entire life whose eras of service range from World War II through Operation Iraqi Freedom and the war on terror in Afghanistan. I have a very clear understanding and deep appreciation for what was done and given up in the name of freedom.

I grew up listening to war stories from both my maternal grandfather and my father. My grandfather served in both World War II and the Korean War - in addition to almost every branch of the military (it’s a long story Ill share another time). Of course, there is my Dad who served in Vietnam in the US Army Company D, 2nd Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment (1966-67), and was wounded during battle and received a Purple Heart.

As I interact with these brave men, my thoughts turned to the countless soldiers currently serving and those whose lives were lost in Iraq and Afghanistan, including the recent tragedy of Snellville’s Cpl. Jon Ayers, and their families.

I had a - very, very dear friend - who served in Iraq. I know what it is to be a loved one safe here at home while a loved one is off in the midst of hell. I went out of my way to support that friend and sent off care packages as often as I could. I’ve had the sleepless nights, the nightmares, and the natural fear I might wake up to terrible news.

I will never forget that.

Fortunately, I didn’t have to deal directly with tragedy. Honestly, I am not sure I could handle it, but my heart goes out to those who have and will.

While I haven’t personally served in the military or experienced war, I’ve been surrounded buy several lifetimes of people who have. I listened to what they went through and what they had to say. They understood. I understood.

We, and generations yet to come, should all remember, honor, cherish and never take it for granted.

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By Rage Against The Machine

August 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Gery Owen!!

By David Wilson

August 5, 2008 7:27 AM | Link to this

Great article Woody! I too have never served in the military but never miss the chance to thank a soldier in uniform. My nine year old will always give them his Cub Scout salute. We all should give thanks to these brave men and women.

By Michael H. Smith

August 5, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

With one nephew in Iraq and another one soon to go to Iraq and another one likely headed to Afghanistan, how do I honor them?

By filling a request from the one headed to Iraq, who asked me why don’t you tell them [Our politician now in power] what you told me Uncle Mike? Of course I did that, as I have done so many times in the past.

Our troops will not leave the Middle-East until we end our dependence on foreign oil and you members in Congress know what I am saying is the cold hard reality, despite your political rhetoric and party politics “as usual”.

Congress, reconvene! Get the people’s business done on the energy policy to Make America Energy Independent. I am not on vacation, and with this economy and gas prices who could afford a vacation? My nephews are not on vacation, so what makes any of one you members of Congress think, you of all people, should be taking a five week taxpayer provided vacation?

Shame on you, Congress!

By Bruce Wilcox

August 5, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

The accusations have grown so harsh that Reid and McConnell had an heated exchange on the Senate floor. Reid accused McConnell of saying “something that is not true” — that Democrats had never offered votes on offshore drilling and other GOP priorities — and McConnell responded by saying the two leaders have a “central disagreement” over whether anything was offered.

Stymied, Republicans say they will block the Senate from acting on any legislation until the issue is resolved. On Saturday, most Republicans voted against taking up a bill to help low-income households pay energy bills.

McBush after missing 61% 0f his votes this year now wants congress back in session, gee wonder why it’s so important this year and not in the twenty-six years he spent in the Senate?

Under Republican control they have repeatedly refused to raise CAFE standards, back in 1993 they howled when Al Gore suggested a dollar tax on gas to go directly into creating alternate fuels, back then with a dollar tax it still would have below three dollars a gallon and we be off oil now.

All the leaders, except President Carter who introduced the first and only CAFE standard, way back in the 70’s, share the blame.

Gases prices are going back down without one oil being drilled.

Our troops were not at war in the Middle-East until someone decided to invade a country under false pretenses.

By Bruce Wilcox

August 5, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Never forget, Bush took a month off after only eight months in office, right before 9/11.

By LT5000

August 5, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Brucie,

Remember your hero Clinton? He ran away to Martha’s Vineyard after the Blewinsky scandal (I trust you remember his finger wagging denial) and then fired missles at Iraq.

By the way Blowbama has missed 47% of his votes.

Not too great either, but McCain’s lifetime record is surely a lot better than Obama’s.

Plus Obama like to vote “No Vote” to avoid taking positions on the tough issues.

However, Obama loves to lie about what committees he serves on.

I’ll take McCain’s lifetime achievements over Hussein Obama any day.

LT5000

By Bruce Wilcox

August 5, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

So what you’re saying lt is that you have nothing on energy that you can refute, just your normal idiotic ranting.

By LT5000

August 5, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Brucie,

I try to lay out the facts for you everytime, but you just choose to ignore them.

I would suggest you use the library for something other than “cruising” the restrooms.

Your arguments are those of the typical liberal douchebag. Nothing is based in reality it’s just “Blame Bush all the time”.

Your boy Obama isn’t going to win. That’s a fact.

LT5000

By LT5000

August 5, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

The facts for Brucie McTeabag.

Quote Brucie,

All the leaders, except President Carter who introduced the first and only CAFE standard, way back in the 70’s, share the blame

In late 2007, CAFE standards received their first overhaul in more than 30 years. On December 19, President Bush signed into law the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007.

Bruce. Quit embarassing yourself.

LT5000

By woodys mom

August 5, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

this blog is suppose to be about honoring our soldiers. they gave and are giving their lives to insure that we have freedom.. they give up their families hoildays births and deaths of loved ones. these men and women deserve everything that we can give them.. all of them and their families. its not just the soldiers who have given to their country but all of their families. wives kids parents and all of their extended families and freinds.

do you think you grown men could quit fighting long enough to honor them. thats the least you could do out of respect to them..

By LT5000

August 5, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Woody’s mom,

Bruce is an idiot. He would prefer to slander a great war hero like McCain than give him even a modicum of respect. Just because he is a republican.

As you can see Bruce is an idiot and I feel it is my patriotic duty to prove that every time he posts.

By the way, your son will probably be moving back home soon, if he doesn’t live there already.

God has decided to bless Gwinnett and cancel this insipid AJC section and get rid of Badie and your son.

Good riddance.

LT5000

By Cindy

August 5, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

First, a heartfelt and respect filled thank you to all who have served our country.

Second, God doesn’t do for us what we can do for ourselves. So it’s highly likely that he played no part in the AJC cancelling the Gwinnett section.

I for one will miss it.

By Bruce Wilcox

August 5, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

woody’s mom, to honor those who serve who DO NOT send them into war based on false prestense, you do not lost over 4,000 of our soldiers because the leaders, as thecommander in chief picked and screwed the invasion up from the very begining.

How many died until they figured out that a Surge may do the trick, how many years before the Iraqi’s stand on their own two feet?

As we stablize Iraq we’re losing Afganistan, a job we should have finished before starting another one.

You want to honor our troops, pay them what we pay Blackwater soldiers, give them the same rotation the Blackwater troops have and just for the hey of it, the same benfits.

Some guy finally admits that the Iraq invasion was all about ourdependence on oil, you want to forget we lost 4,000 and now the invasion of Iraq was all about freedom.

Right you are LT, forgot the Democrats passed the first CAFE standard increase since Carter, guess that get’s the Republicans off the hook.

By Whuh?

August 5, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

Only the print edition is being cancelled.. the local online editions will remain including the blogs.

By Bruce Wilcox

August 5, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

btw…McCain skipped the vote, Obama voted yes on Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007.

By Cindy

August 5, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

oh! thanks for clearing that up for me whuh?! I’m glad…whew. :) Now that you mention it, it seems like I remember that it will be linked to the Gwinnett Daily Post…so that they’re the actual source of the news. Is that right? Either whicha…that’s cool. It’s the blogs I was dreading losing.

By Bruce Wilcox

August 5, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Iraq is raking in more money from oil exports than it is spending, amassing a projected four-year budget surplus of up to $80 billion, U.S. auditors reported Tuesday.

Oil accounted for 94 percent of the Iraq’s revenue from 2005 to 2007, a U.S. report says.

1 of 2 Leading members of Congress, noting that Washington is paying for reconstruction in Iraq, expressed outrage at the assessment. One called the findings “inexcusable.”

“We should not be paying for Iraqi projects while Iraqi oil revenues continue to pile up in the bank, including outrageous profits from $4-a-gallon gas prices in the U.S.,” said Sen. Carl Levin, the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. “We should require that U.S. taxpayers be reimbursed for the cost of large projects.”

You call this honoring our soldiers?

By Michael H. Smith

August 6, 2008 1:44 AM | Link to this

SHAME ON YOU, CONGRESS!

Go back to work. No more political party non-sense.

By Bruce Wilcox

August 6, 2008 2:02 AM | Link to this

And get out our of Iraq.

By Bruce Wilcox

August 6, 2008 2:07 AM | Link to this

Doesn’t the Iraqi’s take the month off too? Oil down to less than $120.00 a barrel. The Iraqi’s have a budget surplus of up to $80 billion, the only reason to go back is to bring our troops home.

btw…McCain skipped the vote, Obama voted yes on Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007.

By Michael H. Smith

August 6, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

SHAME ON YOU, CONGRESS!

Go back to work. No more political party non-sense.

Make America Energy Independent

By Michael H. Smith

August 6, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

Comrades Pelosi and Reid now that you are on vacations, why are you rebuilding the electric grid in Iraq and doing nothing, absolutely nothing, to rebuild the electric grid here in the United States that is 50 years old, operates at near capacity and is subject to major failures that can blackout entire regions of the country?

Comrades Pelosi and Reid now that you are on vacations, with natural gas reserves in this country sufficient to last at least 75 years, why does the Polit Bureau oppose drilling and using our own natural gas resources instead of importing more foreign oil?

Comrades Pelosi and Reid, why is there no mandate from the Polit Bureau that requires flex fuel cars and a variety of alternative fuels at fueling stations across this nation?

Comrades Pelosi and Reid, why can France build and use nuclear power in 5 years and the Polit Bureau insist upon taking 10 years to build and use nuclear power whenever and wherever it is seldom allowed?

Comrades Pelosi and Reid, it was promised that once you took over the Polit Bureau that there would be a change in the way the people’s business would be conducted, it has been rumored by the underground resistance fighters that business as usual has indeed changed. In fact, it is noted the Comrades vacated the Polit Bureau in new record speed to go on vacations!

Comrades Pelosi and Reid, now that you have adjourned the Polit Bureau to enjoy a five week taxpayer provided vacation and refuse to go back to work on the rebel group Gang of 10 compromise energy act to deliver this nation from the evils of foreign oil, the people inquire of you, did you at least check the air pressure in your tires before leaving town?

Shame on you Comrades!

Reconvene the Polit Bureau. Go back to work. Give Chairman Bushskivof something to sign into law.

Make America Energy Independent

By PlainHardTruth

August 6, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

@ Bruce and Michael. (

This is one post you could have left the bickering out of. I share a lot of views with one of you and think that the other one is a total D0\/CHEBAG; however, I think it is ridiculous and disrespectful for the two of you to go off on tangents and engage in your usual diatribe of political jousting.

Woody’s post was about respect and honor for those who serve and those who have paid the ultimate price while serving. The reasons they go where they go are indeed driven by political and social motives and factors. Fundamentally, this is the point. Regardless of the motivations, they go when called and do their duty.

For this we thank and honor them.

By LT5000

August 6, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Poor Brucie,

He must be devastated. Bin Laden’s driver was just found guilty.

Another one of Brucie anti-American heroes bites the dust.

Would someone here be kind enough to send him a gift basket including Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and a Che Guvera T-shirt?

LT5000

By Katie

August 6, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

I know I’m probably going to get bashed here but let’s not forget that soldiers today VOLUNTEER. Sure, I respect those that join the military but I never forget that they made that choice…

By Michael H. Smith

August 6, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Plain Hard Truth it may appear I am jousting, which is truly not the case. There is no excuse for the foreign oil dependency of this country. Blame lies with both political parties for not doing what should have been done 30 years ago. The party now in power of the Congress is presently standing in the way of getting the work done and this party in control is doing so for purely political reasons. I have attacked both of these parties on this issue many times and Plain Hard Truth I’m going to continue to do exactly that rather you like it or not, in the honor and in the defense of those who fight my fight abroad in my place. I must fight their fight at home where they cannot defend themselves or speak-out against their political leaders and their Commander-in Chief in violation of their military code of conduct - that is how I honor them. They are fighting for me and I damn well will continue to fight for them and so should you in like manner by any means necessary. If you don’t like that I figure you got the problem not me.

By Michael H. Smith

August 6, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

One politician now running for the Presidency is calling for Congress to reconvene and work on the energy compromise bill. Though I dislike this candidate because of his positions on trade and immigration he at least deserves credit for doing the right thing in calling for Congress go back to work.

How many other Congressional politicians are willing to go back to work to Make America Energy Independent and bring our troops home from the Middle East permanently?

Any Congressional politician not willing to reconvene on the energy bill, we the people should throw their lousy butts out of our government!

By Bruce Wilcox

August 6, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Stop the canpaigning Smith, the one who is calling them back missed 61% of the Senate votes this year and voted against the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007. Where was he the last two weeks when they were debatinb the issue. It’s a sham everyone can see through.

We have around 80,000 Blackwater hired guns in Iraq making a lot more than any of our soldiers, they get rotated out more often and they get better benefits. If trhat is your idea of honoring of troops you must have had a lot of the kool-aid.

Look how it took a news crew to expose the conditions at Walter Reed, that’s honoring our troops.

Was the invasion based on false pretenses? Was the invasion handled badly from the begining?

Look at our National Guard, suppose to be the back, weekend worries, now serving 15 months as frontline troops, sometimes twice. Where is that job they had when they left? In this economy, long gone, nice why to honor them.

Think about it before commenting, our soldiers have no say in what is done or how, but shafting them is not honoring them. This isn’t WWI, WWII, Korea or Afganistan. Nam was even more unfair, they had a draft, wonder how many would be protesting now if lil Johnny was next to go.

I honor all our soldiers, they do not have a choice in the big picture, except the brig maybe.

To disagree with a policy that is far from honoring our soldiers is not anti-American, it’s anti-stupid. I wish instead of calling names, someone would point out where I am wrong, except Smith and his campaigning.

By Michael H. Smith

August 6, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Nothing stinks worse than a lousy party hack Wilcox and you’re the worst Anti-American one of all.

Obama, put up or shut up go back and get the job done that goes for every member of Congress!

By Michael H. Smith

August 6, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

I wish instead of calling names, someone would point out where I am wrong, except Smith and his campaigning.

I’ll point it out you, Wilcox. It is what you are defending. Every day Congress delays making this country energy independent could mean years and countless American lives spent in the Middle East defending foreign oil only to bankrupt this country in a total defeat!

By Bruce Wilcox

August 6, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Since Bush invaded a Middle East country, wouldn’t it make sense that Congress stay in session until the war on terror is finished?

Why don’t Bush just call them back into session, oh that’s right, he’s in China, gee, neither the war or drilling seems that important right now to him, but then neither did the warnings he received in 2001?

I adressed honoring our troops several times. You seem to just interested in campaigning.

Now the two comments made in this one comment should be easy to answer, give it a try?

By LT5000

August 6, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

Mike,

Ignore Brucie, he’s dumb enough to think that wars can be perfectly planned and executed. Also, he is too ignorant and short sighted to see the benefit of a stable democracy in the Middle East.

He seems to think Saddam was just an innocent dictator until Bad guy Bush came along and attacked him. Given Saddam’s crimes against humanity, using WMD against his own people, invasion of Kuwait, numerous humn rights violations ect., his expiration date was way past due.

And Bruce claims to honor the troops? That’s a joke. His idea of honoring the troops is dressing up in camo and playing “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” in the bushes of Piedmont Park.

LT5000

By Bruce Wilcox

August 6, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

“numerous humn rights violations” Bush is kissing butt in China right now, dumb?

By woodys mom

August 6, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

to PLAIN HARD TRUTH

thanks i couldnt have said it better. you arent going to shut up these guys… they cant see past the nose’s on their face.. i like most of you im sure just scan over whatever these guys write and go onto a message that really is a message.. not a bunch of guys who are full of hot air.

it doesnt matter who sent them or why.. they are there and deserve to be honored for the job and sacrifices that they have and will make..

By woodys mom

August 6, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

to PLAIN HARD TRUTH

thanks i couldnt have said it better. you arent going to shut up these guys… they cant see past the nose’s on their face.. i like most of you im sure just scan over whatever these guys write and go onto a message that really is a message.. not a bunch of guys who are full of hot air.

it doesnt matter who sent them or why.. they are there and deserve to be honored for the job and sacrifices that they have and will make..

By LT5000

August 6, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Brucie McDumbass. Every President since Nixon has met with the Chinese.

Some even went to Russia during the Cold War.

You’re such an idiot it’s a wonder you can remember to breathe. Thanks for proving it to the rest of the blogosphere.

LT5000

By Rage Against The Machine

August 6, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

One of my closest G.C.F.D. Brothers just received word that his son was critically injured in a firefight with Taliban rebels. He is a U.S. Air Force Combat Control Technician. One of the most Elite Operators in the Special Forces Community.

He Survived 3 Years of some of the most demanding and advanced combat training that the military can offer. Also his specialty has one of the highest wash out rates of all S.F assignments.

Several Days ago he was wounded in an RPG attack. He has suffered some extremely debiltating injuries and recovery prognosis is unknown at this time. Please cease the war of words and pray for this young warrior and his family. We owe him and those like him that much.

Gery Owen

By Bruce Wilcox

August 6, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

Is sickening to me how people feel so bad for the brave young warriors, yet say nothing about the false war they get sent them into?

Afganistan was a given, Iraq was nothing more than a hoax. The media reported it was the lowest monthly death toll in Iraq, of course they forgot to mention it was the highest in Afganistian, the forgotten war, in years.

Rage Against The Machine, I am truely sorry for your friend and his/hers family. A lot of my friends are engraved on The Wall in Washington, I have an uncle who rests at Arlington. I certainly hope your friends and families make out better than mine did.

Many of you may take this as an insult, I just take it that many of you are Southerners and cannot grasp simple concepts. Like without false wars, you would not have warriors dying, a country (Iraq) that has no way to actually attack us is not a threat.

It’s just better to retire from the debate and let the REAL patriots pat each other on the back.

KMa.

By Rage Against The Machine

August 6, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this

I really don’t know what to say.

By LT5000

August 6, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

I love how Bruce calls it a “false” war. Remember Congress voted for it. The UN passed 20 odd resolutions against Iran an Saddam was given one last chance to come clean.

The facts are that Saddam did have chemical weapons, he used them against his own people.

He did have WMD programs in place. What do you think that 500 tons of yellowcake uranium was for.

He also posessed banned missle technologies.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/05/world/main4235028.shtml

Will Brucie be smart enough to shut his mouth? I’m guessing the answer is no.

As Churchill said ” A fanatic is one who won’t change his mind, but won’t change the subject”.

The only time Brucie isn’t shooting his mouth off is when it’s full, and that occurs in numerous public restrooms around Atlanta.

LT5000

By LT5000

August 6, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

Correction.

The UN passed 20 odd resolutions against IRAQ. I get my Middle East nutjobs confused sometimes.

LT5000

By Cindy

August 6, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

Rage after reading that, I don’t know what to say either. Especially since it never was intended to be a debate. I am curious about what “KMa” stands for…and hope that my deciphering skills are just rusty and that it doesn’t in fact imply something that needs kissed. I’ll wait it out and not assume.

I am thankful for each and every soldier who serves our country and makes it possible for us to live our daily lives. And my American flag is still in the back glass of my car. I don’t need a reason to display it…the fact that I’m here and free to respecfully do so, is reason enough.

By Bruce Wilcox

August 6, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

Cindy, a flag only flys on a pole or a staff, anything else is not the the flag. It cannot fly on a back window, it cannot fly at night without being lit, if you want to be truely respectful the flag go to the VFW site on how to treat out flag.

KMa, is a old railroad station masters code.

Sorry have to correct falsehoods, the United Nations never gave permission to attack Iraq over the twenty so-called resolutions, which many were dropped after UN inspectors inspected or destroyed what the Iraqi’s had. Plus UN inspectors were on the ground from the fall until Bush decided to invade.

I will provide corrections.

Rage Against The Machine, it’s from the heart.

By Michael H. Smith

August 7, 2008 2:09 AM | Link to this

Since Bush invaded a Middle East country, wouldn’t it make sense that Congress stay in session until the war on terror is finished?

Yeah it sure does and the first thing that Congress should do is get this compromise energy bill into law and begin with great haste and determination to get us off of foreign oil, then completely off oil period.

Why don’t Bush just call them back into session, oh that’s right, he’s in China, gee, neither the war or drilling seems that important right now to him, but then neither did the warnings he received in 2001?

Because Bush, like Pelosi and Reid, are politicking the issue but do you attack Pelosi and Reid as I have just attacked Bush?

I adressed honoring our troops several times. You seem to just interested in campaigning.

You dishonor everyone of them, you’ve addressed nothing but a puke defense of Democrats in your hack party campaigning.

Now the two comments made in this one comment should be easy to answer, give it a try?

I did more than answer it, try answering mine. I know you can’t because you are a stinking lousy party hack.

@ Woodies Mom you do not honor anything but your own gust of useless air.

The quickest permanent means to bring our troops home is to achieve energy independence. Nice words of praise will never honor them as much as bringing them home for good by defeating the enemies they fight in our behalf, once we stop buying the oil of those enemies to give them more of our money to kill our soldiers.

Do the honorable thing Democrats and Republicans, reconvene Congress, Make America Energy Independent and give our troops the victory we all deserve.

By Cindy

August 7, 2008 6:11 AM | Link to this

By design it isn’t flown like how you’re picturing it. I checked flag etiquette before I displayed it to be sure it wasn’t disrepectful. The last thing I want to do is go down the road insulting the flag or America.

And I am glad KMa stood for something of value. :)

By LT5000

August 7, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Brucie has proved he is an idiot again.

I stated that the US congress voted for war against Iraq. Bruce is worse than Obama, he debates arguments that never occurred.

I’m guessing one too many late nights being gagged and whipped at the Heretic.

However, the debate still occurs whether Resolution 1441, yet another one that Saddam ignored under the auspices of Kofi “Oil For Food” Annan, actually authorized the use of force.

A fine article can be found here.

As for the UN weapons inspectors, there are several instances where Saddam mislead, lied and hid components of his weapons systems. Including the missle systems he wasn’t supposed to have.

Just some more facts for our resident moron Brucie.

http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/1998/08/98082801_npo.html

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=3318CC94-9EE8-43CC-9E2A-7BFC4C93D796

LT5000

By Michael H. Smith

August 7, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Add to that Jimmy Carter is the President most responsible for the Iran of today. He toppled the Shah, destabilized the oil region of the Middle East back in the ’70s, turned over the country of Iran to radical Islam and the former U.S.S.R..

Part of the reason we are in Iraq today is because of Carter’s stupidity in thinking he was serving human rights by removing the Shah.

Question for Cynthia Tucker: Do the Iranian people enjoy human rights today? Well, at least to Jimmy Carter’s credit they don’t have any homosexuals, right Ms. Tucker?

Oh, but they most likely will have nuclear weapons very shortly, if they don’t secretly have them already.

Way to go Democrats, what say lets just “wag the dog”…. again, again and uh… again!?

Bush actually did find a weapon of mass destruction in Iraq - OIL!

Comrade Pelosi refused to allow a vote on domestic drilling in the House. This is how Comrade Pelosi honors our troops. By assuring they will remain in the Middle East for many more years where many of them will die, to defend the foreign oil - radical Islam’s most prized weapon of mass destruction - that we will continue to import in our own demise. Price tag: $700 billion and many more American lives lost annually.

By Badie

August 7, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Woody: Great column. Keep it up, bro! PEACE.

By Southern Born

August 7, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Good God.

By Bruce Wilcox

August 7, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

Ike put the Shah back in power after he was ousted, Iran was nothing more than America’s puppet till the Shah got sick, all President Carter did was allow the Shah to seek treatment in the United States, seemed like the thing to do for the puppet Ike created.

The United Stats Congress never voted for a war against Iraq, the United Nations never gave approval even after both England and Bush pleaded with them to do so. To say the Bush invasion was to enforce U.N. resolutions is asinine when the United Nations wouldn’t apporve it.

Smith is for the gays now, talk about desperate politial grandstanding, know your history boys, it helps.

By LT5000

August 7, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

Bruce,

Surely you can’t be that F’in stupid to claim “The United Stats Congress never voted for a war against Iraq”.

* In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions. *

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/11/iraq.us/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

Brucie, you are living in an alternate reality. Undoubted populated with half naked young boys and thumping techno music.

Jimmy Carter demanded the Shah or Iran step down and ordered the military to allow Ayatollah Khomeni to take over. We all know what happened to the military commanders, they were slaughtered by the Ayatollah.

Score: Brucie 0 Facts 5712

You have really proven yourself to be a misinformed, lying idiot with these statements.

Perhaps spending so much time on your knees is affecting the blood flow to your brain.

If only you were a bit smarter, then you could be embarrassed by your ignorance.

LT5000

By Bruce Wilcox

August 7, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

“The resolution requires Bush to declare to Congress either before or within 48 hours after beginning military action that diplomatic efforts to enforce the U.N. resolutions have failed.”, it’s a resolution, which is far from a declaration of war. It also contains several factors Bush never even attempted to meet.

A. “to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions”, the UN inspectors on the ground since fall could not find any WMD’s, even when the phoney pictures Powell displayed amounted to nothing.

B. “military action that diplomatic efforts to enforce the U.N. resolutions have failed”, Bush didn’t allow the inspectors to finished their work because he knew there were no WMD’s to be found.

Know your civics as well.

By Michael H. Smith

August 8, 2008 2:27 AM | Link to this

Wilcox is a desperate idiot now and forever. Because my appetite is heterosexual doesn’t mean I have to kill homosexuals or condone killing them. Big difference in “not supporting” granting marriage licenses to homosexuals “to supporting” killing homosexuals (a big difference small bigoted hack minds just cannot seem to comprehend) that is the prerogative of radical Islamic fascists.

How do you like radical Islamic fascism’s version of human rights, Mr. Carter?

Good clarification LT. Wilcox very conveniently forgets most of us lived during the time when Carter overthrew of the Shah, anointed hell on earth and got a group of American held hostage, to his credit. That hell remains in power to this day and will remain right next door whenever our troops begin to leave Iraq.

Anyone need a bigger better picture or will that sketch do for the moment?

We got two choices: Either disarm the oil weapon now or we will be back in the fight again with our military dying to protect foreign oil in another war on naked aggression.

Thanks again, President Carter, for radical Islamic fascism in Iran.

By LT5000

August 8, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Brucie,

Your posts only prove what an idiot you truly are. The worst part is that you are obviously wrong, but you are unwilling to admit it.

Resolution 1441 demanded Saddam come clean he didn’t. 1441 was passed by the Security Council because Saddam was in “Material Breach” of Disarmament.

SECURITY COUNCIL HOLDS IRAQ IN ‘MATERIAL BREACH’ OF DISARMAMENT OBLIGATIONS, OFFERS FINAL CHANCE TO COMPLY, UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTING RESOLUTION 1441 (2002)

Some highlights:

“Deploring the fact that Iraq has not provided an accurate, full, final, and complete disclosure, as required by resolution 687 (1991), of all aspects of its programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles with a range greater than one hundred and fifty kilometres, and of all holdings of such weapons, their components and production facilities and locations, as well as all other nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to nuclear-weapons-usable material.

“Deploring further that Iraq repeatedly obstructed immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to sites designated by the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), failed to cooperate fully and unconditionally with UNSCOM and IAEA weapons inspectors, as required by resolution 687 (1991), and ultimately ceased all cooperation with UNSCOM and the IAEA in 1998.

Those are the facts that Teabagger Brucie wants to ignore. The problem for Brucie is that I’m around to point out what a halfwit he really is.

Maybe Brucie’s mommy can come over today and help him with the big words in this post.

LT5000

By Bruce Wilcox

August 8, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

The Shah, if you actually read history instead of drooling at FOX, left the country under the advice of his cabinet because the revolution was getting out of control. The Shah went to Egypt, the only time Iran decided we were the evil ones is when we let the Shah.

So Wide Stance Smith, when you’re that desperate that you agree with lt it shows how weak your position is.

Now lt you can read all the resolutions you want from the United Nations, it never gave permission to the United States to invade Iraq, kind of hard using the excuse you’re defending UN resolutions when they’re telling you not to making it an illegal war. Remember the first excuse was WMD’s, lie, then enforcing Unforcing UN resolutions, lie, then it became overthrowing Saddam, lie, then it became Iraqi freedom, lie. So now you have four choices to pick from for the invasion.

Pretty basic stuff here boys, you should stop shouting between stalls and read a history book or two.

By Bruce Wilcox

August 8, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

added to end of first paragraph.

‘in for medical treatment. President Carter had nothing to do with the revolt, only in the minds of the ignorant.

By Michael H. Smith

August 8, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

You don’t have to read the history you live through, Wilcox. The Shah left the country under the advice of his cabinet and a whole lot of help from Jimmy Carter to see to it that he did.

Keep twisting hack.

By LT5000

August 8, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

For Bruce the resident dumbass.

From Resolutioin 1441.

13.Recalls, in that context, that the Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations;

Serious consequences Brucie. That’s a nice way of saying “comply or we will bomb your a*”.

Brucie has obviously inhaled one too many syphillis flavored schlongs and now the spirochetes have affected his cerebral capacity.

LT5000 has the facts. Bruce has his Bush Derangement Syndrome and balls bouncing off his chin.

LT5000

By Bruce Wilcox

August 8, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

You were in Iran at the time wide stance? Otherwise I was around then too, but at least I read the newspapers and watched the media report on it, but being the South, maybe they fed you a different version.

Same goes for the guy in the next stall lt, by repeating moosedung, it still remains moosedung.

You two have a wonderful weekend, I am out of here.

By LT5000

August 8, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Typical Brucie,

The facts, as they always do, prove what an idiot Brucie is. He yells one more time “these are false” and runs away. Without offering a single solitary fact.

What the hell does he think “serious consequences” meant in Resolution 1441? That Kofi Annan wouldn’t allow Saddam to give his son Kojo anymore oil contracts?

Next.

Jimmy Carter got rid of the Shah to help the local Mullahs, who subsequently took over and held American citizens hostage. Yet another Carter blunder Brucie would like us to ignore.

These events in Iran allowed the Soviets to move into Afghanistan. Another mess Jimmy Carter created and Reagan had to clean up.

However, Jimmy Carter didn’t fade away after his dismal Presidency. He has coddled dictator after dictator from Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro to Kim Il Jong.

Basically anyone who is an Anti-Semite or an America hater is Jimmy Carter’s new best friend.

For the real facts on his hero Jimmy Carter, I would suggest the following article.

http://frontpagemag.com/articles/Read.aspx?GUID=AED85BC7-49B9-41D6-9E60-CBB4EA2C73DB

Of course, the worst President in US history is also Brucie’s biggest hero. Brucie apparently loved 18% interest rates, inflation, gas lines and watching American hostages on TV every night.

The 1980 electoral map gives you a picture of how incompetent Jimmy Carter was. Ga should be ashamed for voting for his reelection.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/ElectoralCollege1980-Large.png

The facts, brought to you by LT5000.

LT5000

By Michael H. Smith

August 8, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Citing the PBS the kinder gentler account of History: ( Not the inaccurate blather from an idiot left wing-nut-job that actually makes up history as he goes along from off the top of his ignorance and his hack stupidity.)

The Iranian Revolution

Fast forward to New Years Eve, 1977: President Carter toasted the Shah at a state dinner in Tehran, calling him “an island of stability” in the troubled Middle East. What the president also knew, but chose to ignore, was that the Shah was in serious trouble. As opposition to his government mounted, he had allowed his secret police, SAVAK, to crack down on dissenters, fueling still more resentment. Within weeks of Carter’s visit, a series of protests broke out in the religious city of Qom, denouncing the Shah’s regime as “anti-Islamic.” The popular movement against the Shah grew until January 16, 1979, when he fled to Egypt. Two weeks later, thousands of Muslims cheered Khomeini’s return to Iran after fourteen years in exile.

Did the Carter administration “lose” Iran, as some have suggested? Gaddis Smith might have put it best: “President Carter inherited an impossible situation — and he and his advisers made the worst of it.” Carter seemed to have a hard time deciding whether to heed the advice of his aggressive national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, who wanted to encourage the Shah to brutally suppress the revolution, or that of his more cautious State Department, which suggested Carter reach out to opposition elements in order to smooth the transition to a new government. In the end he did neither, and suffered the consequences.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/peopleevents/e_hostage.html

Carter actually ignored the smartest guy he had working for him, Zbigniew Brzezinski. Did in fact, support opposition elements of the Shah. The Iran of today is the creation of James Earl Carter and we continue to suffer his consequences.

By LT5000

August 8, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Michael,

Don’t worry about posting facts, Brucie will just ignore them.

His history is more than revisionist, it’s fantasy.

Basically what happened in Iran was the Jimmy Carter was more concerned about the “human rights” of the opposition mullahs than he was about stability in the region.

He stopped the CIA’s payments to the mullahs, which was essentially buying their allegiance.

He then had the Pentagon force the military to quietly step aside for Ayatollah Khomeni. What ensued was a bloody massacre that some say tops 20,0000.

The domino effect of Jimmy Carter’s incompetence was the Iranian hostage situation, The Iran-Iraq war and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

Given Brucie’s lack of intelligence, it’s no wonder he idolizes Jimmy Carter.

LT5000

By Rage Against The Machine

August 8, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

Are any of you guys Veterans?

By Michael H. Smith

August 8, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

I am going to do something a little out of character here by publishing a response to my reply sent to Senators’ Chambliss Isakson and Rep. Linder.

Senator Isakson’s response:

Dear Mr. Smith:

Thank you for contacting me regarding the cost of energy. I appreciate hearing from you and appreciate the opportunity to respond.

I recognize the frustrations Americans have with the high cost of energy, and am dedicated to solving this problem and developing a long-overdue and much needed national energy policy. For specifics on my approach to resolving the energy crisis, I am including an op-ed I wrote in the Atlanta Journal Constitution. I also addressed this issue in a speech I gave on the floor of the United States Senate. You can find that speech here: http://www.isakson.senate.gov/floor/2008/061108energy.htm

There are no quick fixes in dealing with this issue, but there are things Congress has done to address it and there is more we must do. For that reason I have joined my colleagues in a bipartisan effort to find a comprehensive solution to the number one domestic issue in the United States. This group of ten is working to develop legislation and a national energy policy to implement innovative solutions to reduce gas prices, lessen our dependence of foreign oil, and strengthen our economy. America’s energy infrastructure should encourage using all viable sources, including nuclear, natural gas, clean coal, wind, solar and geothermal energies. We have a diverse country with many assets that differ regionally. If we are going to have standards that call on us to find renewable energy to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, we must promote all of our resources.

Thank you again for contacting me. Please visit my webpage at http://isakson.senate.gov for more information on the issues important to you and to sign up for my e-newsletter.

Sincerely, Johnny Isakson United States Senator

Open statement to my representatives in Congress:

Honorable Gentlemen, I agree we must promote all of our resources to achieve energy independence. Regrettably, the greatest resource we have in this nation that holds both the power of the purse and pen that enables us to use our all of our resources is now on a five week taxpayer provided vacation.

Gentlemen, you can take the low road, take the easy way out provided to you by the Speaker of the House and the Leader of the Senate by remaining on this five week vacation (stalling tactic) and simply wash your hands of the matter by blaming them. Or, you can take the high road you can do the hard thing and promote reconvening Congress to get the Energy bill passed into law.

I cannot speak as to the purity of what is in the heart and mind of Senator John McCain in his calling upon all members of Congress to reconvene on the energy bill, though in the surety of what is good for our nation, for our people and most importantly of all for our military now facing our enemies risking their lives in our defense, he is truly doing the right thing.

Please join him in his call to reconvene Congress.

By Cindy

August 8, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this

Rage, I am not a veteran.

By Michael H. Smith

August 9, 2008 3:25 AM | Link to this

Out of curiosity I have a few questions you could possibly answer Cindy.

Would you honor the request of a young solider who asked you to speak out and speak to the leaders of this country openly to end the war for oil, on his behalf?

Would you honor the request of an old Viet Nam veteran, a long serving Liberal Democrat Senator that honored your request on energy independence, who asked you to speak out and to speak to the other leaders of this country openly to end our involvement in the Middle East in a war for oil?

Another Viet Nam veteran, Robert Jackson, the bravest man I have ever met was a “conscientious objector” who served in Viet Nam. He was awarded the Silver Star for saving the lives of his fellow wounded soldiers by retrieving them from the field of battle while under heavy enemy fire in the heat of a firefight armed only with his faith in God and love of our country. You see, “he never carried a gun”.

Would you honor such a man who truly believes in, “Thou shalt not kill”; by speaking out and speaking to the leaders of this country openly to end this present war fought because foreign oil?

By Rage Against The Machine

August 9, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

So guess the answer is no. That’s kinda what I thought.

By Michael H. Smith

August 9, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

So guess you’re answers would be no as well. Kinda what I knew all along.

By Rage Against The Machine

August 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

Yes my answer to your questions would be no. I would not honor them that way. And if you would have ever served, you would understand.

By Michael H. Smith

August 9, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

Then tell how you would. Because I knew you were going after the jugular.

By Michael H. Smith

August 9, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

Oh and Rage, one other thing. Speaking out as I have “was requested” by two who have served and the other one, knowing him as I do, he would only say Amen.

By Rage Against The Machine

August 9, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

No Mr. Smith I was not going after the jugular. And believe it or not I share your belief in renewable/sustainable energy. I just don’t buy in to the “Blood for Oil” mantra.

I feel, and I bet the majority of readers that have read this board feel that this was not intended to be an intelectual and idealogical bloodletting between you and Mr. Wilcox.

I understand your belief in the transparency and ineffectiveness of words vs the substance of action and protest. I get it. But no soldier that I have ever met would honor a fallen comrade in this manner.

Gery Owen

By Michael H. Smith

August 9, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

Please do go back to read the beginning of my protest and Wilcox’s party campaigning against my energy protest of both political party sides. That’s what brought on my retort that you find so distasteful. The issue is important enough not to have some lame party hack derail the mission through propaganda campaign of political disinformation.

I really don’t think you do “get it”, though, it is your right not to buy into anything you choose and I respect that right. Also, I do thank you for protecting my right to speak freely and protest here at home. I just don’t buy into the “Winning of Hearts and Minds for Democracy” mantra; especially when that mantra just so happens to conveniently park itself right next to oil wells in the Middle East.

Most of the soldiers I’ve met and I do emphasis soldiers, “would do anything” in their power (something’s you probably don’t approve of) to avoid war. They honestly detest killing and having had to kill. Perhaps it is a matter of having met different soldiers who believe the best way to honor the fallen and the living is for them and us to do the best we can to see to it, that there is never another “fallen hero” to have to honor, period.

I hope you share my belief that it will be necessary to drill for oil and natural gas domestically near term in order to transition to renewable/sustainable energy. It really will take using “all of our resources” and every American working together in a commitment to achieve that goal.

Agree with me are not, the enemies that hate us and tries to kill you will be weakened, economically and militarily (especially in terms of psychological warfare), the very moment Congress acts to achieve energy independence using our own resources.

By Rage Against The Machine

August 9, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wilcox, you are an extremely intelligent and thoughtful American. And I wish that I could be half as eloquent as you. But as a soldier I also know lots of soldiers. The most important thing is to have served with honor and to have not sacrificed in vain. It’s not something you do or did. It’s something you are. And yes Sir I do get it!!

Gery Owen

By Michael H. Smith

August 9, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this

Perhaps I’m confused, I didn’t realize Mr. Wilcox was present. Nevertheless, if I am speaking out of turn my comment below remains as written.

I can assure you this Mr. Owen, the reason I fight for energy independence ( to point of what is seen often as extreme) is to defeat those who hate us and desire to demoralize this nation, our military and our people.

I am in a haste to avoid war in the rush to secure peace and prosperity for America and to bring you and everyone of our soldiers home alive, permanently.

God bless and keep you safe, Gary Owen.

Sincerely,

Michael H. Smith

By Rage Against The Machine

August 9, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this

Sorry Mr. Smith I did not intend to confuse you with Mr. Wilcox.

Gery Owen

By Rage Against The Machine

August 9, 2008 10:47 PM | Link to this

Sorry Mr. Smith I did not intend to confuse you with Mr. Wilcox. And if I have misled you I apologise. I am a U.S Army Veteran. I am not currently in harms way. (Unless you you count the Gwinnett County Jail.)(And I’m not an Inmate.)

Gery Owen

By Michael H. Smith

August 9, 2008 11:42 PM | Link to this

Forgive my misunderstanding. No need to apologize on your part.

Fortunately, I’m not an inmate over at the county hotel either.

Godspeed all the same.

By Bruce Wilcox

August 10, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this

Rage Against The Machine, you will never bring democracy to a people who will not fight for it themselves, or even asked for it. The same happened in Nam, these farmers in rice fields were caught in a war they could care less about.

You Rage Against The Machine, should understand more than anyone, how many deathes does it take before you admit it was a mistake or how much is oil worth?

You want to honor our troops, bring them home, they did their job, even Iraq wants to set a dead line, around 2010, bush keeps fighting, why, oil, embarrassment for making a huge mistake?

We are over-extended to the point we cannot defend ourselves anymore, as a former military person you, of all people should be able to realixe that.

As former military, you should know the very basics, KYE. kmow your enemy, O, objective, H/M, hold and maintain, and a very clear exit. Five years to reach this and only by a surge of 30,000?

Now as Mr. Smith is concerned and turning it political, look at the very second comment made. Tomorrow will be half-way through August, bush will be still in China, the communist country that stole most of our jobs and soon industries, yet Mr. Smith blames it on Congress?

You really want to honor our troops, bring them home. Soon there will be have to have a draft, our forces are just worn out (being a military man/woman you should know that), we cannot keep sending back. Ask any spouse, ask if he gets better the second or third time, better yet, ask his/her children.

Any personal information Rage Against The Machine my name is there, like Mr. Smith, I’m not not afraid to back up what I print.

Mr. Smith, if’s it’s all the same to you you, let us go back to being polite debators (let us leave political parties out of it), otherwise hold on to your shorts.

By Michael H. Smith

August 10, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wilcox if your closing remarks were meant as some kind of threat, then you have at it. I don’t buffalo. It was you who introduced and brought political parties into things.

Here is my original comment and protest. Would care to show me anywhere in that statement where “a political party” was named? You can’t. And why can’t you? Because my condemnation was directed at * “our politicians now in power”.* And I called for an end to “party politics as usual”.

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By Michael H. Smith

August 5, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

With one nephew in Iraq and another one soon to go to Iraq and another one likely headed to Afghanistan, how do I honor them?

By filling a request from the one headed to Iraq, who asked me why don’t you tell them [Our politician now in power] what you told me Uncle Mike? Of course I did that, as I have done so many times in the past.

Our troops will not leave the Middle-East until we end our dependence on foreign oil and you members in Congress know what I am saying is the cold hard reality, despite your political rhetoric and party politics “as usual”.

Congress, reconvene! Get the people’s business done on the energy policy to Make America Energy Independent. I am not on vacation, and with this economy and gas prices who could afford a vacation? My nephews are not on vacation, so what makes any of one you members of Congress think, you of all people, should be taking a five week taxpayer provided vacation?

Shame on you, Congress!

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No, Mr. Wilcox, I refrained from party politics until you went down that low road.

As for my concerns, Mr. Wilcox, Congress does not have to wait on marching orders from Bush to reconvene. Congress can act regardless of Bush. In fact, Congress has the power to make Bush irrelevant to this issue completely, whether Bush likes it or not.

We do agree on a few things, however.

“You will never bring democracy to a people who will not fight for it themselves”

It is about oil. The Middle East has always been about oil from the time oil was discovered in the region. Historical record shows blood for oil to be the reality, ugly as that may be.

I disagree Bush is embarrassed, from my opinion of him, he is incapable of shame.

If you really want to honor our troops, bring them home and you see to it they can remain home for good. Without energy independence that will not be possible.

Additional comments:

As long as we refuse to use our own oil and natural gas resources in the near term to transition to renewable energy we are standing in weakness economically and on the moral low ground. The world laughs at our safe the environment hypocrisy of drill not in our back yard but drill in their, the Arab’s back yard.

If we cannot unite around achieving energy independence we will lose this country. Then every solider who ever fought or died for this nation will have done so in vain.

It is up to us to do the hard things reach agreements on the hard compromises that will be necessary to win our energy independence. We are closer to that goal than we ever have been. But we will have to use all of our resources to buy the precious time needed to bring to fruition developments like these:

‘Major discovery’ from MIT primed to unleash solar revolution

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/oxygen-0731.html

MIT creates new material for fuel cells Increases power output by more than 50 percent

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/fuel-cell-0516.html

By Bruce Wilcox

August 11, 2008 12:39 AM | Link to this

Mr. Smith, I do honor former and present soldiers, but I’am not stuck in a position that you find yourself in, I’m lucky to have daughters and grand daughters. Maybe it is not fair, in Israel, everyone serves their country, here 90% get a free ride. Volunteer Moosedung, bonuses, college…no draft like in days of olde, the poor.

Now Mr. Smith you know as well as I the National Guard, the Weekend Warriors, were NEVER suppose to replace the draft. They were our last line of defense, now they’re no better than what we did to the draftte’s of old, except these poor folks have families.

To honor our troops, NO more Walter Reeds, No more traveling great distances to get to a VA, local doctors should, under law, treat all veterans.

Godspeed tp your nephewes, Mr. Smith.

By Michael H. Smith

August 11, 2008 1:13 AM | Link to this

Well… there you go again. You could have said Dunkey dung or Elephant poop and the reality would be the same one. Doubt you will see another draft in this country and the poor have always fought the wars of this nation.

NO more Walter Reeds, No more traveling great distances to get to a VA, local doctors should, under law, treat all veterans.

I’ve got no problems with any of that.

Thanks for your biddings to my nephews.

By Rolando A. Salazar

August 11, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

Woody, Thank you for sharing your article on how you feel about veterans, our troops and what they do. I’m sorry that some of the responses here sometimes have gone off in other directions, but your thoughts do honor to all those who served, whether the cause was justified or not.

As you know, I was in Vietnam in the unit with your dad at the same time he was there and you are justifiably proud for the sacrifices he made.

Thanks again for your article. I will share it with all the guys from Co. D, 2/7th Cav with whom I am in touch (about 150 people on my e-mail list who served between 1965 and 1971).

Garry Owen!

By Rolando A. Salazar

August 11, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Garry Owen is the traditional salute of the 7th Cavalry. The regiment goes back to Gen. George Custer’s time and the salute originated about that time from the Irish soldiers who were in the unit then. They were from an area in Ireland called Owen’s Garden (Garry Owen) and used the name to identify where they were from. An old Irish melody, also called “Garry Owen” is the official song of the unit and it is usually played on bagpipes. The 7th Cav is a proud regiment and is part of the U.S. Army’s 1st Cavalry Division. The regiment is serving in Iraq today.

By ламинат

August 13, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

eut Een plaatje zegt alles, toch ? mgu Het volledige rapport is hier te vinden. Lees natuurlijk q de blogposting. v l Thanks for interesting post! trm ламинат 6t

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