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DEL.ICIO.USObama wins big, Huckabee appears headed to close victory
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Illinois U.S. Sen. Barack Obama won an overwhelming victory in Georgia Tuesday with strong support from young and middle-age voters. Meanwhile, Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee won a close Republican primary battle.
Obama led Hillary Clinton big throughout the vote count, even before African-American-heavy DeKalb and Fulton precincts had been counted.
In the Republican presidential primary, Huckabee led John McCain most of the night. While much of Fulton County - which went heavily for Mitt Romney and McCain - had yet to be counted late Tuesday, it appeared Huckabee would hold off his rivals.
In the Democratic primary, it was Obama’s second straight Southern triumph, and like an earlier victory in South Carolina, was built on a wave of black and young voters.
About 77 percent of voters ages 18-29, about 74 percent ages 30-44 voted for Obama, according to exit polls.
The only age group going for Hillary Clinton was voters 60 and older, according to the exit polls.
Obama received more than 60 percent of the vote from both men and women.
Clinton beat Obama among whites, 57 percent to 39 percent, while Obama polled 88 percent of the black vote, according to the poll.
White women voted heavily for Clinton, while the white male vote was split.
Voters were split about the economy, one of the most important issues of the campaign.
About 93 percent of Democrats say the economy is in bad shape, and most Democrats say it is by far the most important issue facing the country, according to the exit polls. Republican voters weren’t as down on the economy, with 41 percent saying it is in good or excellent shape and 58 percent classifying it as not so good or poor.
Huckabee, a Southern Baptist minister, was aided by strong vote by Georgians concerned about religious beliefs and born-again or evangelical Christians.
Exit polls showed 69 percent of Republican primary voters in Georgia say they want a candidate who shares their political beliefs. And 64 percent described themselves as born-again or Evangelical Christians.
Those figures probably didn’t help Mitt Romney, a Mormon running in a state with a tiny Mormon population.
Huckabee also backed the “fair tax” plan to replace federal income and payroll taxes with a federal sales tax, an idea supported by many Republicans.
Huckabee did particularly well among voters under 30, while McCain and Romney were splitting those over 45.
Throughout the campaign, Huckabee has aimed his message at what he calls Walmart Republicans, not Wall Street Republicans. According to the exit polls, Huckabee was having his highest success among those whose family income is than $50,000 a year, and among those voters with no college degree.
The most highly educated among voters, those with college degrees or better, leaned toward Romney.
Of the three candidates, McCain did best among those who expressed negative feelings about the Bush Administration, and worse who had positive thoughts about the current administration.
However, McCain, who has argued that Bush’s push for a surge of U.S. troops has turned the tide in Iraq, did best among those GOP voters who disapprove of the war. Of the three candidates, he did the poorest among those who approved of the war.
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By Bryan
February 5, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this
Go ‘Bama! I knew he couldn’t possibly lose in the south like that. Roll Tide!
By Josh
February 5, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this
“About 93 percent of Democrats say the economy is in bad shape…”
In other news, about 93 percent of Democrats don’t know what the heck they are talking about.
By BRIAN
February 5, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this
And 93% of democrats don’t work, pay taxes or effect the economy other than draining it with welfare and other “entitlements”.
By Michael
February 5, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this
Only the weak minded talk to pollsters anyway.
By Jeff
February 5, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this
Lets all vote for someone because of thier color….good idea. But i’d expect no less from Atlanta voters
By Glenn
February 5, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this
looks like the Christian right has been fooled yet again… they thought Dole could win in ‘96, thought Bush was a conservative, and apparently they think that Huckabee is too. Way to go….
GO McCAIN!!!!
By Elizabeth
February 5, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this
Why are the simpleton bloggers above allowed near a computer? Do you have to show your ignorance to express your opinion?
By Puhleez
February 5, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this
Yeah, Jeff. Like you’ve never voted for someone who looked like you, either…
By WG
February 5, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this
It is embarrassing that Huckabee is winning in Georgia and that so many people think the economy is bad. Those with less education voted for McCain and Huckabee, and all those with no knowledge of anything voted blue, while the more educated voted for Romney. All that tells me is that there are not enough smart people in Georgia.
By Souldrift
February 5, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this
Brian and Josh, you are both officially morons given your prejudicial and inane comments. Ejaculations!
By Earnest
February 5, 2008 10:47 PM | Link to this
As predicted today by Boortz, no mention of Huckabee’s support of the Fair Tax as a reason for his victory in GA. Doesn’t fit with the MSM’s script. Maybe they will wake up after tonight’s results. Go Huck!
By Bella
February 5, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this
Georgians didn’t vote for Romney because as a recent liberal, he is only a new convert to conservative Republicanism. Too much risk for backsliding!
By Chris
February 5, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this
I wonder what’s the percentage of voters who consider themselves “born again” who voted for the other politicians. Could it possibly be Georgian voters voted for Huckabee because he supports the best tax reform out there, The Fair Tax?
By FT
February 5, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this
Huckabee….yea he could be respected as a world leader….give me a break
By Josh
February 5, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this
Souldrift: So the economy is in bad shape, then? Please explain why. Use thesaurus.com if you need help coming up with big words.
By E.
February 5, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this
ROMNEY IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE.
ROMNEY SUPPORTED SAME-SEX CIVIL UNIONS. In 2004 he supported a Massachusetts states constitutional amendment that would have allowed such unions.
His actions being fixed in history, Romney later changed his mind and his public position (what is new?).
ROMNEY SUPPORTED RESTRICTIONS ON GUN OWNERSHIP.
His actions being fixed in history, Romney later changed his mind and his public position (what is new?).
ROMNEY SUPPORTED ABORTION—WITH HIS OWN MONEY. He gave money to Planned Parenthood and attended their fundraiser.
His actions being fixed in history, Romney later changed his mind and his public position (what is new?).
My critique of Romney’s shiftiness is nothing new. Romney has been widely criticized for adopting a variety of positions on key issues over time.
There is one issue on which he has remained consistent, however—the official racism practiced by the Latter Day Saints (Mormons) up until 1978 (when Romney was 31). Romney did not, unlike other LDS members, criticize his religious leadership for their racist policy prior to the 1978 decision to allow full membership for blacks.
Romney, despite being a Mormon bishop and a stake president (a leader over several congregations), has never called on his church to repent for its racist history.
MORMON RACISM—apparently one of the few issues on which Romney has shown some consistency. How sad.
If Romney had backbone on the core Conservative values (and actions to match), perhaps one could overlook the issue on which he has shown such consistency.
But as it is, Romney’s lack of Conservative behavior should make any voter with a Conservative conscience wary.
By Steve Nash
February 5, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this
Where’s Ralph Nader when you need him?
Whoo Hoo!!! Canada Ruuuulz!
By Flush Rush
February 5, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this
Rule or ruin…
I am insulted and highly offended that Rush Limbaugh and the other radio magpies are hollering “If McCain (Or Huckabee) gets the GOP nomination,we’ll stay home”. Sounds just like…Barbra Streisand to me. Give me what I want or I won’t play nice. See ya,Rush.I like to listen to talk radio.It’s entertaining. It passes the time. But I’ll be dammned if I will let these chickenhawk hypocrites do my thinking for me. Either McCain or Huckabee would be fine with me. If Ann Coulter or Sean hannity wants to be marginalized by voting for or supporting Hillary Clinton,I say let them.The funny thing is, John McCain had his spine snapped and did without food and clean water to protect Rush and Sean and Ann and they don’t even have the grace to say “thanks”…
By Jdawgz75
February 5, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this
This Jew voted for Huckabee. Believe the liberal media if you want. I am gonna vote my heart. Family income plus $150,ooo, Bachelor Degree, etc. Wal-Mart not. Realist yes. F@#uck the rest of you ignorant voters. What has McCain, Hillary, or Obama done for you lately? Bunch of f’in libs to me. All I know is, I do not want to be the one, or my family, killed for your disregard of the real terrorsist threat in our country. National security is key to the American way. What does it matter if you could’ve had a national health plan if you get taken over by a California Senator, Muslim Country, or Communist China? Ask Canada or Europe how well this system has worked for them. Better yet, tell me what experience Hillary has and what she has done for this country. Or Obama, your junior senator. Reagan where are you? Please rise up and save this us.
By KJ
February 5, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this
It’s comments like the ones above that feed the world with more stereotypical comments about how ignorant the south is. You conservatives should do a little research on the education of blue states vs red states and, more specifically, average SAT scores. Conservatives are too busy preaching a good game but then finding themselves in the divorce line or tapping their feet in a public bathroom. I guess it’s ok to pick and choose what is right and wrong for yourself.
By Avery
February 6, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this
It is appalling that in 2008, someone who believes that the world is 6,000 years old is a viable candidate for the highest office in the most powerful nation in the world.
With an educational system like this, we won’t be the most powerful nation for very much longer.
By choose your liberal
February 6, 2008 12:41 AM | Link to this
The Great Betrayal
by Patrick J. Buchanan
Offering more “straight talk” on the Sunday before the Florida primary, John McCain made an arresting prediction: “It’s a tough war we’re in. It’s not going to be over right away. There’s going to be other wars. I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars.”
Ike promised to “go to Korea” and ended that war. Nixon pledged to end Vietnam with honor. McCain says we may be in Iraq a hundred years and warns, “there’s going to be other wars.” Take the man at his word.
Mimicking the Beach Boys’ “Barbara Ann,” McCain has joked about “Bomb, bomb, bomb—bomb, bomb Iran” and urged the expulsion of Russia from the G-8. He wants to expand NATO to bring in Georgia and the Ukraine. This could mean confrontation between Russia and the United States over whether South Ossetia and Abkhazia should be free of Georgia or ruled by Tbilisi, a matter of zero vital interest to this country.
We are forewarned. John McCain intends to be a war president.
Where Bush has lately cleansed his administration of neocons, McCain offers the last best hope for a neocon return and restoration and more wars in the Middle East. And if, as seems probable, Bibi Netanyahu again becomes prime minister of Israel, he and a President McCain will find a pretext for war on Iran.
Year 2008 may prove a defining one for conservatives. For on many of the great issues, McCain has sided as often with the Left and the Big Media as he has with the Right.
Where Bush has been at his best, cutting taxes and nominating conservative judges, McCain has been his nemesis. Not only did he vote twice against the Bush tax cuts, McCain colluded to sell out the most conservative of Bush’s judges
In 1993, McCain voted to confirm the pro-abortion liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg. But when Bush set out to restore constitutionalism, McCain formed the Gang of 14, seven senators from each party. All agreed to vote to block the GOP Senate from invoking the “nuclear option”—i.e., empowering the GOP to break a filibuster of judicial nominees by majority vote—unless the seven Democrats agreed.
With this record of voting for Clinton justices and joining with Democrats anxious to kill the most conservative Bush’s nominees, what guarantee is there a President McCain would nominate and fight for the fifth jurist who would vote to overturn Roe v Wade?
McCain also colluded with liberals to pass McCain-Feingold, a law that denies to Second Amendment folks and right-to-lifers their First Amendment right to identify friends and foes in TV ads before national elections.
On ANWAR, too, McCain votes with the liberals, and on global warming he has moved toward Gore.
After five record trade deficits have denuded the nation of thousands of factories and 3 million manufacturing jobs, McCain is still babbling on about Smoot-Hawley. “When you study history,” he told a Detroit newspaper, “every time we’ve adopted protectionism, we’ve paid a very heavy price.”
But what history was McCain talking about? From Lincoln through Calvin Coolidge, the GOP was the Party of Protection that put 12 presidents in the White House to two for the Democrats, and the U.S. became the most awesome industrial power and self-reliant nation in the history of mankind, producing 42 percent of the world’s manufactured goods. Even Hillary, whose husband passed NAFTA with McCain’s support, has begun to question the free-trade paradigm and the disastrous results it has produced.
On controlling America’s borders and halting the invasion through Mexico, McCain collaborated with Senate liberals in the McCain-Kennedy amnesty, which was rejected only after a national uprising.
When 190,000 Arizonans petitioned in 2004 to put Prop 200 on the ballot, requiring proof of citizenship before an individual could vote or receive welfare benefits, John McCain led the GOP congressional delegation in opposing it unanimously. Prop 200 passed with the support of 56 percent of all Arizona voters and 46 percent of Hispanics.
Unsurprisingly, Juan Hernandez, the open-borders chatterbox and former adviser to Vicente Fox, has turned up in McCain’s campaign.
On the two issues where Bush has been at his best, taxes and judges, McCain has sided against him. On the three issues that have ravaged the Bush presidency—the misbegotten war in Iraq, the failure to secure America’s borders, and the trade policy that has destroyed the dollar, de-industrialized the country, and left foreigners with $5 trillion to buy up America—McCain has sided with Bush.
Now McCain is running on a platform that says your jobs are not coming back, the illegals are not going home, but we are going to have more wars.
If you don’t like it, vote for Hillary.
By W
February 6, 2008 6:48 AM | Link to this
To E:
Sounds like you have some issues. We are not voting based on what somebodys church has done, we are voting on a president. The issues stated, when serving people of a state with certain beliefs, you are serving and representing them. You don’t get voted to come in a do whatever it is you believe. You work for the people.
By Ray Jenkins
February 6, 2008 7:26 AM | Link to this
The big surprise in Georgia: Obama and Clinton polled 52 percent of the total vote, to 48 percent total for the three top Republicans.
I wouldn’t extrapolate this into Georgia voting Democratic in November, but clearly it’s a straw in the wind. After all, does it make sense that someone who voted for Clinton or Obama in February would vote for McCain in November?
By Rutagengwa
February 6, 2008 7:35 AM | Link to this
today i celebrate the fact that two good persons had brought so many peoples to vote for a progressive and less belligerant USA.
those neo-cons who scorn Ombama and mrs Clinton simply do not realise what kind of disaster the Bush administration for US standing in the world. The USA are considered to be the real ennemy of peace almost every where on a sad same level as Iran and North Korea
By bob
February 6, 2008 7:54 AM | Link to this
Republicans apparently think that having others do their work them is work.
By GA Vet
February 6, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this
@Jdawgz75
Attitudes like that, and you stated it pretty clearly—F* the rest of us, are why I’m not voting for your guys. Maybe if you actually gave some service to your country you claim to love (but I question when you say F* us) you wouldn’t rant in such a childish, self-entitled way. You don’t find Democrats getting on here and screaming about a ZOG machine or other such nonsense, why do you feel like you do?
Anyway, all I can ask of you is a little moderation and maybe for once, think about your fellow citizens.
And yeah, I’m a Democrat with a job who gave four years of his life and plenty of blood, sweat, and holidays to Uncle Sam, so stop yelling about defense unless you can show your DD214.
By Phil
February 6, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this
If Mitt Romney can’t win the vote I’m not voting for Mcain. I just won’t vote…
By Joyce S.
February 6, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this
I can’t believe that anyone was ignorant enough to vote for Obama! He won’t even salute the American Flag. How is it you people want this man to run our country is beyond me!
By robin
February 6, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this
To Brian: You say that 93 percent of Democrats don’t work, pay taxes, and have a sense of entitlement? What world are living in? Most Democrats believe that everyone, no matter what their beliefs are, have a right to be heard and respected. They are also hard working, tax paying, law abiding citizens who do not feel a sense of entitlement, that’s the American way. So before you generalize Democrats as welfare and entitlement w*******, come to my neck of the woods, you’ll see proof!
By howard
February 6, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
RONALD REAGAN WAS A TERRIBLE PRESIDENT! Anyone who votes for a candidate who looks to him as a role model for running the greatest country in the world SHOULD NOT VOTE!
By Pen
February 6, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this
I can totally see why people voted for Obama, out of disdain for Hillary. I am a Republican and I almost voted Democrat so I could help keep Hillary out of the White House. It isn’t just his color. I’m white and I’d be more than happy to vote for a person of color. If Colin Powell ran, he’d have my vote for sure. I’m not saying that Obama didn’t win Georgia based on color, but there is certainly more to it than that.
By Mike
February 6, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
If McCain wins I’m just going to stay home in November. I won’t vote for a liberal.
By ab
February 6, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this
Huckabee?!? Proof that GA-ATL=AL
By anne maria
February 6, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
Thank you Pen, for saying what I have been saying. People I know vote for Obama not because he is a black man, but because we are dissatified with Hillary- not only Hillary, but the rest of the candiates that are running right now. There is a disillusion with them- they are not thinking of us citizens, and they would compromise their beliefs if that is the only way to be elected. Barack gives us Americans hope, and I am tried of people saying that he has a lack of experience! If that is true, then George W. Bush wouldn’t-oh I forgot! He used thievery to get his job.
By BlueMoon
February 6, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
Well, an awful lot of venom on here today. I’m a used to be Democrat (in the days of Sam Nunn) and am now a Republican.
I’m a republican because I believe in small government, strong national defense and lower taxes.
I do believe that many democrats don’t see how higher taxes infringes on their civil liberties. If the government is making you do something with your money that you have no choice in, then that is an infringement. It’s a true shame you don’t see that.
And I would guarantee that anyone that voted for Obama doesn’t remember one word in the communist manifesto. Read that, and then read ANY one of his speeches and then you tell me (honestly) whether or not he believes in capitalism or communism.
I am only writing this because I am literally scared of someone like Obama in office. Hillary was quoted as saying she would garnish wages to pay for universal health care. Again, an infringement on your civil liberties. What does that matter though if you’re “spreading the wealth” and doing things “for the greater good”. It all sounds nice but it’s exactly the type of thinking laid out in the communist manifesto.
Frankly, I want the power to choose where my money goes. The government shouldn’t be able to FORCE me to pay for someone else’s health care. I already pay 45% in taxes…how do I afford to pay more? And in case you’re wondering where that number came from…educate yourself. Gas tax, property tax, sales tax, etc.
And before you throw off my line of thinking…I’m a Sam Nunn democrat who would gladly vote for Colin Powell, Condi Rice or old Sam. I just believe that politicians should still be servants of the people and not the other way around. Big government is not being a servant. It’s complete control of your freedoms.
By BlueMoon
February 6, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Okay, I’ve seen enough of people saying they won’t vote if McCain is running. I’m guessing you’re all pubs and I’m saying you’re throwing away one of the last freedoms that you can honestly control.
Don’t be short sighted…and that’s for dems and pubs…VOTE!!!! Everyone should vote. It’s your right and duty as an American.
By Billsen
February 6, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
According to the exit polls, Huckabee was having his highest success among those whose family income is than $50,000 a year, and among those voters with no college degree.
Thus proving that ignorance is bliss. Mixing politics with religion is a dangerous game. If you don’t believe that, take a peek at the Taliban. Putting Huckabee in the White House is lighting the fuse to Armageddon. Too bad these people didn’t go to college - they might have learned something useful.
By CELESTE
February 6, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
SEEMS TO ME PEOPLE HAVE FORGOTTEN WHY WE ARE A BLESSED AND POWERFUL NATION. TOO MANY CHEIFS, AND NOT ENOUGH PRAYER. GOD HAS SHED HIS GRACE ON THIS NATION. WE WERE FOUNDED BY CHRISTIAN MEN AND WOMEN WHO BELIEVED IN HONESTY AND INTEGRETY AND MOST OF ALL GOD. LOOK AT OUR COUNTRY NOW. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A NATION TAKES GOD OUT OF THE WHITEHOUSE OUT OF SCHOOLS AND OUT OF THEIR HEARTS. HOW ABOUT GETTING OUR NOSES OUT OF THE MEDIA AND INTO THE FACTS AND SPENDING TIME IN PRAYER ASKING GOD TO FORGIVE US FOR THE MESS WE HAVE MADE AND ASKING HIM TO HELP US MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR PRESIDENT. STOP ALL THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND START CARING FOR ONE ANOTHER! BLESSED IS THE NATION WHO’S GOD IS THE LORD’S!
By Google Ron Paul
February 6, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
The only solution is Ron Paul, and everyone knows it, but we’re too gutless to vote our consciences. Some, like Boortz, are turned off because he wants to end the war, and I was among that group in the beginning. But the more I started listening to this brilliant man and thinking outside the tiny little box that George Bush and the media had created, I realized that he was speaking profound truth.
Let me explain by analogy. Most conservatives are able to see the err in the democratic/liberal social programs and efforts … they understand that, no matter how well intentioned or how good the program sounds, you can’t solve our problems at home (poverty, crime, etc) with more gov’t involvement and pumping more money into poor communities through entitlement programs, etc. But I contend that the same principle applies to the conservative foreign policy.
Much like the democratic social policies, our efforts abroad are well intentioned, sound good, and make us feel all warm and fuzzy inside…”get them over there so we don’t have to fight them here.” “we must protect Israel,” etc. Yes these things sound good, but they cannot be sustained and will end up causing more harm than good.
The end result is that we borrow from one communist dictator, and give that money to another militant dictator because he gives lip service to spreading freedom and democracy in Iraq. WHAT?!?!? Can you not see the problem with that logic?! And then, because we’ve armed all these crazy arabs to the heel, now we have to go and protect Israel from them. WHAT?!?! This is ridiculous!
If we get out of there and quit meddling, there will be a natural balance, and these problems can work themselves out. The end result certainly couldn’t be much worse than it is now, and we’d at least not be spending $10 billion per month (and becoming owned by China in the process), and losing a thousand of the most valuable American lives per month trying to fight a battle that’s been going on since the beginning of time! How arrogant and silly to think that we could effectuate a real change in a culture that is 10 times older than America. That makes about as much sense as thinking that man controls the environment, right?!
Don’t get me wrong, I love the military and its people, and I’m a firm believer in Reagan’s view of a strong national defense. He brought one of the most powerful empires in the history of man to its knees without ever firing a shot. But now they want you to believe that we can’t be safe from a bunch of rag-tag rebels in a third-world country on the other side of the earth with no navy, no air force or formal organization, unless we dedicate $10 billion per month and a thousand American lives per month?!? And McCain wants this to go on for a hundred years?!?! And all the while, we can’t even secure our own border?!?! Poppycock!!
People we have to be able to see past the matrix created by the media and the chicken hawks and our preachers, and understand what government is really supposed to be. With the proper form of federal government, you wouldn’t have to worry about what Ron Paul or Rudy or Hillary personally thinks about abortion because their opinion would be IRRELEVANT!!! The federal gov’t (including the courts) would not be able to tell you what to do at the state and local level!!! Can we ever get past this non-sense that exists in American politics today?
By Deborah
February 6, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
I’m a white female and I voted for Obama. I wanted to vote for Hillary, but I think Obama has a better chance of winning the general election against any of the Repubs.
Josh - I guess I must be part of the 7% of Democrats that have a job and pay taxes. I earn $150K+, own a home in Morningside (one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the City) and drive a Mercedes E320. Bet that tops you Joshie boy.
Oh, and I have a MS in Statistics, so I’m not an uneducated twit like most of the Repubs in this state.
By BlueMoon
February 6, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Google Ron Paul
I see what you’re saying but the fact of the matter is that both dem and pub presidents have been guilty of supporting rebels one day and fighting them the next. And I’m not going to say that Bush has been the best president ever.
But I think we can agree that these things need to happen: 1. Term limits 2. No earmarks 3. No lobbies 4. Campaign spending limits 5. Fair Tax
What do you think about that? Wouldn’t that be a good place to start?
By KJ
February 6, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
I hear you folks speak of taxes paying for health care but seem to turn your back every time you fill up your tanks with gas so the big man can get richer. I guess the fact this big man is white makes it OK.
Also, don’t you believe that the uninsured will get health care when they need it and don’t you believe that hospitals raise costs to the insured to cover these costs and don’t you believe that insurance companies raise their costs to people with insurance? I think you see your deductibles and co pays go up and covering less. Come on folks, think about it when you talk taxes. I guess you conservatives are ok with taxes as long as it helps your kind and not the less fortunate. Be thankful you weren’t born in a family that didn’t have health care, you might think differently.
I am single with no children and have to pay taxes that go to schools. I am ok with that because education results in a better world for me to live in.
Lastly, when I ask a conservative to give me an example of how they remember their taxes going up when Clinton was in office, they stutter and don’t have an answer. It’s been very easy for me to give an answer, I get excited when gas is under $3.00 / gallon now. The rich have conditioned us to think that way.
By Deborah
February 6, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
Celeste - your horrible grammar and spelling tell me you are a very uneducated person. Get your head out of the Bible lady and get an education. You are exactly what’s wrong with Georgia and the South in general - too many uneducated, ignorant people.
By BlueMoon
February 6, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
Deborah Don’t be narrow minded and then call someone else ignorant. Be a part of the solution, not the problem. Offer a remedy instead of bashing someone else.
At least Celeste did offer a solution. It may not jive with what you believe, but it was an idea.
By Barry
February 6, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
Jeff get a life,Voting for someone because of their color I dont think so, probably something you never had think about in your (World)
By Russty
February 6, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
Read the posts above. Are you figuring it out. If you are well-educated and don’t mind making other pay for you (using your college degree to embed your taxes in you services products so you remain rich) vote Romney. It is NOT the poorly educated that is voting for Huckabee. It is the HONEST hard working Americans who can not AFFORD and education because they have too MUCH of a tax burden while the rich get a free pass! If you are wealthy - good for you. Pay your taxes YOURSELF! I vote Huckabee because of the FAIR TAX, not because I am some “dumb-headed” evangelical.
By Deborah
February 6, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
Blue Moon - narrow minded and ignorant are two very different things. I was just stating the facts. Only 56% of Georgians graduate from High School. Georgia and the southern states score the lowest on the SAT, etc. Just stating the facts.
Plus I’m sick of people like her misstating the facts about how this country was founded and trying to interject religion into everything. Separation of church and state is best.
By bsm75
February 6, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
Jdawgz75, you’re wrong to believe that the health care system in Canada is not working well. The people telling you otherwise are the ones that have health insurance and are wealthy enough to continue paying the high premiums for it. I have been transferred to Canada with my job (yes I know I can stay as well) and can tell you the water is fine up here. I was afraid as well, but it’s much better ran than the US. There are problems that could be fixed but everyone is covered and life expectancy is actually higher here than the US. These are facts not driven by the neo-cons. We would’ve had universal coverage from the Truman administration but the AMA lobbied against it. Ironic now that the AMA is now lobbying for it..We can learn from other countries and make it work for us…don’t be afraid.
By Billsen
February 6, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Deborah, you have it 100% correct. I mean, if Celeste and those who think like her feel that we need “religion in the White House”, I’d ask her what was so great about the last seven when we had that? Being religious has as much bearing on the ability to lead as does ability to ride a bike. I simply doesn’t matter.
I’ll take intellect and ability over religion any day. Oh, and I’m another one of the 7% - $110K/year, college educated, and a nice home in Grant Park. I did vote for McCain, though - but that was an attempt to stop Huckabee…
By Tamika
February 6, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this
Wooo Hooo
Hillary 2008
Our first women president!!
No stopping her now BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Queen B
February 6, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this
Huckabee may have been aided by the religious folks, but Georgia chose him for his support of the Fair Tax.