Duluth.Talk

By Concerned citizen

February 7, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

I agree don’t blame the whole organization for the actions of one. However, the Duluth PD’s hiring process and supervision practices should be evaluated. Does Duluth require mental health evaluations prior to being hired? Did Mr. Daily have a past history of mental illness? I am no expert, but there are usually signs before a person snaps like this. It seems that Duluth PD promotes the cowboy cop image. I remember I few years back when they turned a neighborhood into a battlefield and the bad guy ony had a revolver. And that is on top of looking unprofessional. Some of the Duluth officers have more facial hair than Santa Claus. I think the City Council and Mayor should take a closer look at the PD from the very top.

By ever4ward

February 7, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

after being married to a police officer I can tell you from experience that they NEVER return to their identities as human beings!

By another wife

February 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

I’m also married to a police officer (Gwinnett County PD), and while I agree that they never stop being cops while off-duty, they also would never turn a weapon on one of their own. This guy either had a psychotic break or was on drugs. I agree that Duluth could use an outside assessment of their hiring practices.

By bootsiebanty

February 7, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

As you said, there are good cops and there are bad cops. I have seen stupid white bullies who became cops, and I have seen stupid, black, anti-white racist cops working for APD. But…police officers and their departments should be held to a higher standard than the rest of us, simpy by their function in society; just as a killer generally gets harsher treatment/sentences when he kills a cop. I never could understand that myself, but the “explanation” usually is something like, “killers of our law enforcers should get harsher treatment, because of their role in society,” or something similar. BTW, I have also encountered professional and “nice” cops. I’m old enough (51 tomorrow) to remember when even the APD had some of these men.

By Bruce Wilcox

February 7, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Another Gwinnett officer charged with DUI gets off this week by Recorders Court Judge Patricia Muise. I guess she knows better than the State Patrol officer who filed the charges.

How many have died in the county by being Tazered, one was in on a couple of the deaths, still nothing happens.

Now a cop on cop shooting is different, the shooter will probably be forced into rehab, if he isn’t already, then it will be swept under the rug.

“However, according to reports, he was not wearing a uniform, he was not driving an official vehicle, and he was not acting on orders from a superior officer. That makes him a private citizen.”, by the bush standards I guess we’ll have to send him to Cuba. A cop is a cop 24/7, like a political official, a minister and teachers, they all reflect on the community and where they were employed.

By Former Cop

February 7, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Actually a medical doctor, a teacher and a police officer do have certain obligations regardless of whether they are on the clock or not. For instance a doctor cannot refuse to offer life saving help without a very good reason or they risk losing their license to practice and a civil suit. And a teacher if contacted at home about physical or sexual abuse of a child has no choice but to report it or risk the same consequences as the doctor above.

A police officer has an even greater responsibility because they have taken a binding oath to uphold the law and to protect life and that never stops when they cloak or are cloaked in the law. There are Federal Laws that apply to the actions of someone who acts illegally while portraying themselves as a law enforcement officer and that is what I mean by cloaking or coloring oneself in the law. Now lets say that the Fulton County officer would have been driving home in his personal car with his child in the back seat and been flagged down to help. He would have had no obligation to stop (even if he was in uniform and thereby colored in the law) because his responsibility is to his child who he has custody of (protection of life) not the public. He would have to call for help or make some other attempt to help to uphold his oath. Another example would have been if he was transporting a prisoner, he can call for help but he is a custodian of the prisoner and he must protect their life first. The unique thing is that officer Phillips was in Gwinnett County and colored in the law with Fulton County property and still acted in an overt manner. Because of the uniform he was wearing and the car he was driving he was automatically colored in the law, and he did not have to otherwise identify himself to the public (including Daly) as a law enforcement officer, but he did have to help. Lets say for instance the Fulton county officer failed to stop and had been identified, he would have been charged with cowardice and been disciplined for failing to act. However he didn’t fail to act in fact he acted very courageously and most likely saved at least one life but probably more.

The same law applies to the Duluth officer who by wearing police equipment has colored himself in the law, just because he was not wearing a uniform does not mean that he was not acting as a police officer because the public perceived that he was a police officer. I think we can expect for the Duluth PD of the FBI to file “color of law” charges against him after Gwinnett has completed their criminal investigation. Obviously he has not been convicted of anything and will most likely come up with some absurd defense for his actions. Most of what he did could be explained by saying he was trying to make an arrest and all of these citizens were trying to prevent him from doing so and that is why he pointed his gun at them. But there is no reason I can think of to disobey a uniformed officer much less try to kill them.

Obviously the off duty officer that attacked your friend was not protected by his oath or in violation of the color of law because he never identified himself as a police officer, not to mention he acted illegally.

By "citizen"

February 7, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

I do not have anything against police officers, with the exception of Duluth Police. And no, I have not ever been in trouble or received a ticket in Duluth, so this is not a bitter statement because i have a vendetta. This officers action is just a piece of string of the ball waiting to unravel for that police department. View it as one pimple in acne on the butt of GA. I have yet to hear anything positive come from that department, either from citizens, or others that have worked closely with the officers. So, go ahead and judge the whole department on this one officers action, your probably right in your assumption.

By citizen

February 8, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

Hey, as long as they’re shooting at each other, there’s less tasing and revenue raising on citizens.

“LEOs” have become nothing but paramilitary bullies.

By concerned citizen

February 8, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Isnt this the same Police Dept where on officer wounded another during a satndoff in Duluth a few years back? I say take away Duluth’s Police dept guns and turn protection over to Gwinnett County Sheriffs Dept. I am not saying disband the Duluth Police Dept. As we all know they are great traffic cops. Unfortunately thats all they are!

By Jay's sister

February 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Jay is my baby brother the youngest of 4 children. We grew up in a loving, beautiful family. Jay accepted Jesus Christ into his heart many, many years ago and has been active in his Bible believing church. He is married and has a sweet, bright 4 year old son. Jay has also been mild manner, kind man. He is close to our parents. So what happened? We, who know Jay, are asking the same thing. Jay has always wanted to be a police officer and would never do anything on purpose to affect his career. So something snapped in Jay’s most inter-being. Please instead of harsh words, pray for Jay, for his wife, his son and for his family. Remember that Christians are not perfect just forgiven, praise God!

By Bruce Wilcox

February 8, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Sorry, but I don’t care what Jay does at church, I care when he carry’s a gun. Sad as it may be Jay represents law and order, he shot a fellow officer, it’s all about choices and responsibility, no forgiveness here.

By A Friend

February 8, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

No one seems to be taking in acccount Officer Dailey mental state, last Friday. Maybe he just snapped and this was his plea for help. The DA or Gwinnett PD, should have placed Officer Dailey under observation since last Sat, not in a jail cell.

The whole event from start to end was not the Officer Dailey,Duluth PD or his Neighbors know. Everyone on the Duluth PD talks of how great a Officer he was, acommendations etc etc and I’m sure he has. So Folks what happened “Lets Find Out”. Maybe the Judge on Tuesday will order it as he should.

We pray you get the help you need Jay.

By Former Cop

February 8, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this

I know that Dailey was a person that a lot of people loved and cared about but my prayers are for the other officer and his healing and prayers of thanks giving that he was there to stop this mad man. Also hoping that justice will be done and he will get 20 years (the maximum)

By Bruce Wilcox

February 8, 2008 11:58 PM | Link to this

“So something snapped in Jay’s most inter-being.”, “Maybe he just snapped and this was his plea for help.”, please remember, this excuse applies to 90% of the people Jay arrested.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 9, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

To Jay’s sister and the other bloggers, i AM this person who asked a question on the blog that started this thread.

The reason being that my first ever encounter with Daily was a frightening one- scary enough to buy a handgun over. Daily took me aside after fending off an attack by local thugs at my work. I was within my right to defend myself, not to mention duluth pd ignores illegals. I was shocked to hear him say “As far as I know you’re going to jail for ten years.”

Folks…I’ve never been in trouble, this isn’t a revenge rant. Daily threatened an innocent citizen with ten years of imprisonment in some upstate animal factory. what for? Protecting myself from an armed robbery. As far as I know Daily was not the judge or the jury, but threatened me illegally just the same. When I confronted him with the law, he intentionally misrepresented this law for his own manipulative ends. I was warned by an attorney after that fact that he was lying.

Folks…duluth pd is corrupt to the bone. Daily was just one of these dirty cops, I can get you the names of at least ten I know of who are guilty of similar criminal activities. One was recently dismissed for pulling a woman out of her car by the hair and breaking her arm. This is not the behavior of police officers…these are the actions of criminals.

Randy Belcher has tried to sweep this fact under the carpet every time it has happened. This time, however, the cat is out of the bag, and He’s not returning anyone’s calls and is “Always” unavailable.

We need to start a full review of ALL duluth police officers by the federal government. They run DUI traps as nothing more than a revenue generator, they beat people up, they shoot at people, they ignore illegals, hell…do I need to go on?

This is not small stuff. This is a cancer that will slowly eat this city alive and destroy ANY faith we have in our police. At present, I have 0% faith in Duluth PD. If left alone they will likely conduct their own internal investigation, say “Everything’s fine” and smile with a turn back for their desks. And they will continue running down the good people of this town for cash and personal gain like they always have.

Bill, we discussed this at my office before. It’s sick what policemen get away with nowdays. We both know what the deal is: It’s a money gathering machine and little else, the Duluth PD tries to avoid any real work, like arresting illegals or GOD FORBID get some of these real issues tackled.

To Jay’s sister: You brother can rot in hell. Nice sweet kid who found jesus? That’s horse crap, honey. This man is straight out of the movies. My first impression of the b******* was a cold, calculating, moral-free sociopath. And he is- he tried to kill several people, wearing a bullet proof vest under his street clothes and firing his department issued handgun at innocent bystanders. Some little brother. I had the worst feeling about him, so I bought a handgun. Low and behold It turns out I was right for doing it.

To all those who agree with me (Which is most of you) thanks. Our little hamlet is on fire. It’s time to call out the speedwagon and hitch up the hoses.

So again, how about a blog about the corrupt cops in this town? Daily isn’t the only one.

By Concerned Citizen

February 9, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Hang on AAA. Sounds like you have some deeper issues. “DUI Traps”? I agree that Duluth may be a little unprofessional and a change of leadership is warranted. But there is no such thing as a “DUI Trap.” Drunk drivers kill innocent people and should be “trapped” or arrested, or taken off the road. Call it what you want, but no one is making these fine citizens drink and drive. I say catche them anyway you can. If I remember correctly the lady that got her hair pulled was a DUI suspect that refused to get out of the car. In my opinion she got what she deserved. On a different note, spare me with this finding Jesus junk and he goes to church, bla, bla, bla. He tried to carjack a lady, and shot a cop. He should do the max, I don’t care what frame of mind he was in. Lets start taking responsibility for our actions.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 9, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Well, granted but I kind of deal with the problems they create in this town on a daily basis. A woman driving home after a glass of wine at dinner is a danger to nobody. I did work with a guy who was given a DUI in duluth inside his apartment three hours after he got home. That’s a DUI trap. Warranted: DUI is a danger. If someone’s minding their own business, leave ‘em be. If they are swerving off the road, getting in accidents, or being reported as a drunken driver…go ahead, give them a DUI. NO deeper issues other than seeing my friends and fellow citizens being run down by crooked lawmen. A vast majority of the DUI cases I see are merely good folks minding their own business. I’ll also point out that on new years eve, duluth was running a dui trap for the citizens as they were heading home to the neighborhoods along boggs road. They were arresting people withing a half mile of their house. Do it on the highways, people driving home and nearly arriving safely are not the problem. DUI in this town isn’t a problem and wasn’t well before the HEAT task force was formed to farm revenue.

And yes we all agree the leadership needs a shakedown.

By Concerned Citizen

February 9, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

Most drunks that have killed have been “minding there own business.” DUI is a problem and police should actively patrol to spot DUI offenders. No exceptions. Boggs Road is a Gwinnett County maintained road and it is not owned by any one citizen so no one has the right to be DUI on it. Driving in this state is not a “right”, its a privilege. The US Constitution does not grant you the right to drive nor does it say the Govt should not abridge your right to drive. I would assume that most of the DUI’s you see are friends and of course they were minding there own business. But when you break the law, no matter what business you were minding, you become the police’s problem. It sounds like you don’t agree with DUI laws unless someone is involved in an accident or is weaving really bad. Hell, by then it’s too late, folks are already dead. But I guess it’s okay because the DUI didn’t mean to kill and they were minding there own business.

We have totaly got away from the topic of Duluth Police. Yes they still need to be looked at, but your basis for outside review is just plain dumb. I don’t care what a DUI drivers intention is, the fact of the matter is they were driving drunk-period. Oh yeah, Boggs Road is not iside the city of Duluth. Thanks GCPD for hosting a roadblock on Boggs Road. Do as many as you can.

By Johnny Walker

February 9, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

Sounds like AAA is what cops call a “frequent flyer.” Wonder how many times he was arrested by Duluth PD to get so angry. There may be some bad Duluth apples, but it’s hard to believe all of them are corrupt and were just finding it out now from you.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 9, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

Nah. No frequent flyer here Johnny. Handle like Johnny walker is interesting though, pointing that out to me. Basis for the assumption is that i’ve heard and seen plenty to compel me to say so. The threat against me by Daily is just the tip of the iceberg as far as it goes. Are they ALL corrupt? Nah. Technically almost impossible. I don’t think this whole thing ever had much to do with generalizing, as Bill put it, but more to do with the fact people are still avoiding the issue: There’s obviously more than one. I do think they all need to be federally investigated just to err on the side of caution. Hell…the good guys have nothing to hide.

As far as concerned citizen’s remarks, I see that’s not just a clever name. You seem REALLY concerned about people driving at all when they’ve consumed alcohol. This state is pretty freaked-out on drunk drivers, I’ll give you that. But as I’ve said before, it is correct to state that duluth PD runs DUI traps. Weaving ect ect aside, people who aren’t even operating a car shouldn’t be getting DUI’s. They are. Some even falsified, I’m sure. I see the cases all the time. And fact against speculation: Yes, duluth was the ones operating the boggs road DUI operation that night. Saw it and their black cars with my own two eyes.

I think if i said: “Screw the braves, what about the whole duluth PD being corrupt?” That would warrant such a statement. I never stated all were, just some. More than is being dealt with presently. I’ll concede it can’t be all of them, but I refuse to believe, based on what I know, that Daily was the only one. When in Rome…

By hitwriter

February 9, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

To Jay’s Sister…

I happen to personally know the Fulton County officer Corporal Paul Phillips who was shot. He attends my church and is a fine man, devoted father and officer.

It wasn’t just two weeks before this incident that he and I had a conversation about his career. He mentioned to both me and my son that his hope was to simply be able to retire in the future with out having being shot at.

While I respect your love for your brother it is Jay who should be asking for forgiveness and your prayer requests to first be for officer Phillips full and speedy recovery.

As a resident of Duluth I agree the police department needs to be investigated. While I have met many fine officers on the force I have also seen actions that appear juvenile and find it ridiculous that the department actually owns horses and other equipment unnecessary for a suburban city this size.

The Duluth PD has been in the news for the wrong reasons too may times.

Their already low public opinion needs a PR makeover.

By Tee Total

February 9, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this

You can tell that this dude who rails about “DUI traps” is a drunkard; he keeps referring to “ect ect” when he means etc. You know: et cetera. DUIs should be summarily executed. Then drunkards couldn’t whine about the motive being “revenue generating.” Long rambling blog entries — the sure sign of an unbalanced paranoid. He’s probably never passed a bar in his life.

By justin

February 9, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

Brucie, when are you going to get it right? Taser, there is no z to it ds.

By Concerned Citizen

February 10, 2008 12:31 AM | Link to this

I do not have a lot of love for the Duluth Police. However, we cannot ask for a “Federal Investigation” based on the actions of a few. It would not be fair to the entire Dept to investigate everyone just because. That would be the same as the police coming to you work and investigating every aspect of your life just to err on the side of caution because you might commit a crime someday. Hell, You got nothing to hide right? Police do not give up their rights just because they are police officers.

hitwriter,

The unecessary equipment I will agree with. However, the city council and Mayor are responsible for Duluth PD’s lavish budget. You cannot blame the PD. If you made a million dollars would you drive a Ford Focus? I would rather see less fancy equipment and more officers patrolling the roads.

Oh yeah, there is no such thing as a “DUI Trap.” The police don’t pour beer down peoples throats!

By Bruce Wilcox

February 10, 2008 1:18 AM | Link to this

justin, just to be politically correct, a taser and a tazer are both classified as stun guns. Tazer is a trademark comapany that makes stun guns.

Tazers Tazers aka TASER® Weapons fire a 50,000 volt electronic non-lethal defensive stungun force.

What does Gwinnett use Justin?

By Jais AAA duluth

February 10, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

LOlz, look at all the trash pointing fingers around here. Drunkard? No you homo, I run a DUI school is the reason I say DUI traps. If I were a drunkard I would not have this job.

Learn to do your homework and READ before you blog, cretins. THere is a such thing as entrapment and this pd is quite guilty of that, not to mention falsifying police reports to the effect of such. Hence the term DUI trap. Hey that’s cool, wait till they do it to you and I’ll see you in my office some time, we’ll chat about it.

By Concerned Citizen

February 10, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

Oh great, now AAA is calling people names. Why don’t we just top of the middle school antics and say bad stuff about each others mothers.

So you work at a DUI school. I’m sure all your “friends” from the DUI school are innocent and the officers lied in their opinions. I would hope you had better evidence than a bunch of disgruntled drunks at DUI school! If you do have evidence of police wrongoing in Duluth then I suggest you contact Danny Porter. It would be another chance for him to get on the news.

Does this seem right? AAA can accuse all Duluth Police of being liars. What if a Duluth cop called AAA a “Nose-picking idiot”? AAA would be on the phone demanding a federal investigation.

By Dacula Resident

February 10, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this

I grew up in Duluth and still live in Gwinnett and avoid Duluth like the plague. Duluth cops are jerks and always have been. It was no suprise to see this was a duluth cop. Yeah the same ones that set their little sped traps on hwy 120 in downtown. How you think they got all those nice patrol cars. They used to drive ole beaters in the 80’s and 90’s. Yeah and one of them shot another fellow officer in the leg during some stand-off years ago. Then once upon a time back in the late 80’s some duluth cop chased a guy on a motorcycle after the guy flipped him off down pleasant hill rd. the cop crashed his cruiser and killed himself at a light pole in front of atl toyota. A bunch of Barney Fifes. All they are good for is writing tickets. I hope this guy gets the slammer for life and teaches all the rest of you duluth cop goobers something. Bunch of jerks!

By hitwriter

February 11, 2008 1:08 AM | Link to this

Concerned Citizen…

It would be my guess that the Duluth PD makes an annual budget request line item by line item.

However I am not familiar with their budget allocations and model.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 11, 2008 1:47 AM | Link to this

Concerned citizen…you are an idiot soccer mom with a low IQ. Go back to trolling under the bridge for unaccompanied children to preach pro-life to. You display the intelligence of a seven year old and the codependency of a hydroponic tomato. Seriously…man…woman…whatvere you call yourself…spare us all your overzealous drivel. People like you in this town are as big a problem as the cops.

By Concerned Citizen

February 11, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

I expected the name calling and ranting to continue from AAA. You still did not address what evidence you had of police corruption? Seems like you and your drunk friends talk a big game, but now is the time to show your hand pal. Anyone can sit at a computer and complain about cops and blame all their misfortunes on someone else. Politicians and cops are usually the first targets. If you have solid evidence lets hear it? Better yet make an appt. with Danny Porter. I’m sure he would love to hear it.

Lets put this one to rest. Describe a “DUI Trap” for me. Is it a cop sitting at a bar with a gun to your drunk friend’s head making him drink. Then the cop starts up the car for the drunk and makes him drive? If you or your drunk friends don’t like “DUI Traps” then don’t drive. Driving is a privilege and DUI is against the law. I don’t have a problem with “DUI Traps”? Oh yeah, I don’t drive drunk and I obey the law.

AAA, are you trying to bite the hand that feeds you? Police arrest drunks, drunks have to go to DUI school, you get paid by drunks for the useless DUI school. If police stop arresting drunks you may have to get that application for Burger King. I think the BK on Pleasant Hill is looking for swing shift workers.

If you want to change way things are done in Duluth you better come up with something better than “DUI Traps.” Because you and your posse of drunks are not really rallying a lot of support on that platform. I have no love for Duluth PD, but I have to call you out on your idiot opinions. And to think I went to war to protect your freedom of speech. Certain rights should just apply to intelligent folks. The stupid ones ruin it for everyone. You have a poster of Hillary Clinton in your bedroom don’t you? The bedroom that is in the basement of your mother’s house.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 11, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Do us all a favor Concerned and just stfu please. Fact is I do have more evidence than just DUI traps. How about Daily firing at another police officer for one.

How about being threatened illegally for two by a duluth cop of all people.

How about seeing five cases in the last year that were falsified DUI arrests, one in particular i’m reminded of was a korean medical intern. These arent drunks. These are the people all around you, Concerned, and you will always remain a deluded moron.

You went to war for me? No Conerned, I reject ANY help you might have offered this country before I was born. As far as I’m concerned you do not represent anything about it or in it- you’re a discrace. My only other complaint is that you survived it to preach your scocialist views.

No, concerned, you didn’t go to war for me so don’t be ashamed. I never needed any of your help. And I never asked for it, so you can shove that duty crap right where the sun doesn’t shine. From the sound of you I take it you worked kitchen duty or radio chair.

By Concerned Citizen

February 11, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Okay Hillary-lover, I have served in not one war, but two and have the medals to back it up. But I’m not going to argue my service record with you. I earned my free speech, you were just born and entitled to it. That’s exactly how you Hippies think. You think I don’t have to fight, someone else will do it. Then you walk along and say “I didn’t ask for your help.” Go back to Canada. Is AAA really Bill Clinton? Bill, stop messing with me, this is a Gwinnett County forum only.

Again, I just hear the rants of your drunk friends who were disgruntled that they got arrested because they were DUI. So what if she was a Korean intern. Good for her, still doesn’t give her the right to be DUI and endanger others. Yeah we know, Daily snapped and shot a police officer. So if a DUI school owner/hippie in Lawrenceville molest children, should we investigate you too? If one school teacher rapes a student, should we investigate every teacher in Gwinnett? Georgia? US? Because I don’t agree with your ultra-liberal view on DUI it means I’m a socialist? Would it surprise you that I am a registered Democrat? But I am a rare breed of Democrat, I have common sense and take responsibility for my own actions. Maybe you should pass that last sentence along to your DUI students. Have you ever been in or around a jail? Everyone is innocent and its the bad mean cops that were just picking on them or lied to convict them.

AAA, please get a hobby or a real job. You have way too much time to create conspiracy theories in your head. Sounds like you have been listening to drunk stories for so long that you are actually beleiving these fools. Like I said, call Danny Porter with all this “evidence.” His number is on the GC website. And your mom said to clean your room too. She doesn’t want to have to walk downstairs and do it herself.

By Jay's sister

February 11, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

I want to clarify that in no way, was I saying that Jay’s actions were legal or justified. I was just stating that this was so unlike the Jay that his family and friends know. The reason for my comment about Jay’s strong faith was just to reitterate how bizarre this behavior was for Jay. Jay and the rest of his family extends great remorse to the other officer, his family, the woman and the man involved. We are praying for a full recovery for the officer and for God’s will to be done with Jay. Whether Jay spends his life in prison or not, God has forgiven him because of Jay’s relationship with Jesus. Jay will not rot in hell. Nor will any of you readers, if you confess that you are a sinner, that you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is God’s only Son and that he died for your sins. Ask Jesus to come into your heart. If you pray this, you will have eternal life in Heaven. There is no other way to get to heaven. There is no sin too great to keep you from God’s mercy. That is why it is called Grace. This is not about church or being religious. This is about faith and eternity.

By Citizen

February 11, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

‘Concerned’ and ‘AAA’ early on both of you made good points, but now neither of you have any credibility. The childish antics ruined both of you. For the record, DUI should be handled very seriously, however Duluth Police notoriously make questionable arrests for intoxication. Duluth Police need to have a ‘big brother’ for a period of time, their “zero tolerance” is a little extreme. I would like to know that a drunk driver is off the street so that they do not kill one of my loved ones, but at the same time it is not necessary to take someone off the street for a high breathalyzer result if the field sobriety test proves otherwise. While a court may find a defendant innocent in many of theses cases, the defendant is still out the money of the defense and time spent in jail. So DUI ‘trap’ is not the term I would use, but faulty discretion of what is dangerous is a better description.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 11, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Would It make you feel any better if they were pushed out of windows you friggin idiot?

By delta1965

February 11, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Holy crap….Jais AAA Duluth… you are an idiot. I am friends several in the Duluth PD. As for them being corrupt, you are wrong. I guess you have experience working with these officers personally right?

Jay Daliey, he is a kind man that just cracked that day. Do I think he needs to be punished for what he did, yes. However the medical staff at the County jail also needs to try and find out why he cracked. If Jay did threaten you, you must have been not complying with what he asked you. I am sorry that it happened and I pray for all involved to recover fully. The lady was just being a good person to stop and help. The officer was doing his job and I commend him for acting the way he did.

Yes, Duluth does conduct DUI check points. Maybe if you would take the time out of your life to go to one of them, you will see how many under age drivers are out there drinking and driving. How would you like if it they did not conduct these check points and you or a family member was killed by someone that had been drinking. These Dui Checkpoints save lives, even yours.

Ok so lets talk about the officer that was dimissed last year. Gene was doing his job when he pulled that women out of her car. She was passed out along the side of the road with her car in drive and her foot on the brake. Gene had to go in front of the Grand Jury and they found No true bill, which means Gene was doing his job. By the way did you know she pleaded guilty to those charges.

Jais AAA Duluth, if you have proof that the PD is corrupt, why haven’t you done something about it. I think you are a sad person who likes to talk and cause trouble.

By Concerned Citizen

February 11, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

Citizen,

Driving with a high alcohol content it still against the law. It’s what the state calls the “per se” law. It doesn’t matter how well you did on sobriety tests, if you are over .08 you are illegal. That is not a Duluth policy, it’s the law.

People should not be able to drink and drive no matter what amount is in their blood. A person is less safe after even one beer than they would have been with no alcohol.

The fact that a person is allowed to drink a beverage that depresses your central nervous system and then drive a 4,000lb deadly weapon is truly stupid.

Everyone talks about “questionable arrest”, “corruption”, “DUI Traps”, and “falsified reports.” What is a questionable DUI arrest? If Duluth is notorious for them why are we just hearing about them now? Please someone give me some real information that I can research, not just spouting off at the mouth. Is “questionable” a term used when one of your friends or relatives got arrested? Again, my previous point has been proven. American society as a whole does not take responsibility for their actions and blames others for their misfortunes. The front line targets for most people are politicians and cops. If the cops arrest a lot of people and prevent fatal crashes they are “Nazis”, “Questionable”, and “DUI Traps.” If the cops don’t make the arrest and people are dying all over the place then the same folks are asking why the police were not more aggressive in their enforcement of DUI’s. I say we asked Duluth and Gwinnett PD to stop making DUI arrests alltogether and advertise the fact. Then lets see what happens.

By Cooter

February 11, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

We could look at the question of why the level of DUI went from .14 in as recently as 1987 to .08 today. Back in my day, a cop would just follow someone home if he pulled them over, talked to them, thought they were schnockered, and followed them home to make sure they got home safe.

We could test the effects of alcohol an any given person on any given night. See if a person who is legally intoxicated could pass the physical field sobriety tests, or if a tea totaller could fail them stone cold sober. Hell, we could even give people a test, get them to consume the legal limit, go on a driving test obstacle course, and if they pass the test, then they can have a special license. It’s about making the roads safe, after all.

We could look at why a person is allowed to drink a beverage that depresses your central nervous system and then drive a 4,000lb deadly weapon, or why it is legal to purchase that beverage from a tavern, restaurant or convenience store. In fact, they did. It was called Prohibition.

My question is this: What does any of this have to do with why this Duluth fella shot this Fulton fella?

By Jais AAA duluth

February 11, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Nothing changes the fact concerned is still an idiot and everyone who can’t see the corruption needs to go and take a look, fact is you have NOT. And I have gone to the fbi and what have you about it, they were visited by special investigators some time during the weekend.

By Concerned Citizen

February 11, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

Does a cop following some one home make them safer? They are still drunk right?

The reason the legal limit dropped is because more studies have been done on the affects of alcohol. Progresses are made in the area of science from time to time.

A drunk can safely make it hime 1,000 times. It’s what happens on 1,001 that scares me. I did some research. Over 80 people died on Gwinnett County roads in 2006 ( I couldn’t find 2007 stats). We had almost as many traffic deaths as some entire states. Do I need more evidence. Oh yeah, there were only about 40 murders the same year. So which is the bigger problem? Good one Cooter, lets have Rosco and Enis follow Uncle Jesse home when he’s drunk to make sure he gets home safe.

The roads are safer without people who are driving after drinking period. What next? Don’t give me the “I drive better when I’m drunk” bit either.

AAA, would you stop pulling everyones leg. The FBI is not coming and no “special Inv.” are coming or have come. You’re a fool. The FBI would laugh at you. Did you leave them a message on their imaginery voicemail? I’m sure they were very interested in your “DUI Trap” theory in this day of global terrorism. Maybe you should alert Sonny Perdue also. Maybe he can order the GBI to come in with his imaginery radio. Maybe we can have the imaginery national guard march in and declare imaginery marshal law.

How did this go from Daily tweaking out to “DUI Traps”? I know, the “DUI Trap” theory is AAA’s main evidence of Duluth PD corruption. Duluth PD needs to be pulled in a little but there is no widespread corruption. And there is no such thing as a “DUI Trap.” Partner, go to some other parts of the coountry or world and you will see how good the police are in Gwinnett County. Hell, just drive down to Atlanta. That would require you to leave your Mom’s basement.

By Whipper Snapper

February 12, 2008 12:11 AM | Link to this

Topic seems to have gotten off point, huh? I’ve lived in Historic Norcross since 1976, way before most of you and we ALWAYS bypassed Duluth City Limits whenever possible back then. They were rumored to have been corrupt and would stop drivers just to hastle them. Yes, they set up speed traps on Buford Hwy, 45 mph then going downhill changes to 35.. what a joke. Same thing on PIB, 55mph downhill to 45.. that’s where they sit.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 12:35 AM | Link to this

Yes. You see concerned citizen- you are a fooken moron. Someone of your limited mental capacity could not possibly understand civilized matters. Please shut your nose out of civil affairs - you do not belong here.

As for your insults, I physically challenge you to a boxing match for charity. Winner pays his yearly income to feed the children. Game old man?

You need to stop talking your trash before you wind up with injuries. I am availible 24/7 for your bullsht, son. If ever you feel froggy, please by all means jump. I’d love to teach you the order of things. And no crap talk, please just respond. you have my email.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 12:48 AM | Link to this

BY the way concerned citizen, you puissant nobody- the reason I said special investigators were up there over the weekend is because my contact at the GBI sent me an email assuring me that they would be checking things out in the morning. Low and behold when I got to work…there were unmarked vehicles and strange men In suits with federal badges walking around. You do the math, retard. As for now I’m still challenging you to that boxing match to settle this like men. You want to talk mass trash to someone you don’t know? Back it up you silly woman. I want to see what this “two wars” stuff has against my own training. To pass this up is a travesty to many atl children who could benefit from our disagreement, hoe. Maybe you should put up or shut up, either way you’re still an mlk blvd hooker till you show some balls, son. All’s I see from your sorry a* is talk and more talk. You wanna talk in the ring old man?

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 2:14 AM | Link to this

or ‘No’

By Sober Citizen

February 12, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

“AAA” is worse than a drunkard; he suckles at the teats of inebriates to eke out a meager living. Since the Duluth PD just fired their blown-gasket shootin’ copper — for being DRUNK, maybe “AAA” can educate him on how to be a sot and keep his badge. Does “AAA” drive a leased BMW, one step ahead of the repo man?

By Michael McCarthy

February 12, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

We hear stories of cops out of control all the time. (this guy takes the prize though) The majority of police officers are good, hard-working folks. But reform is needed, not just in Duluth.

Have you ever heard of the code of silence? Cops don’t tell on each other. Cops don’t write each other (or their families) tickets. There is a culture of us and them and it is very pervasive.

Requiring a college degree would go a long way toward improving the situation and weeding out the dumb rednecks. Perhaps with more constitutional education, more respect will be given to “we the people.”

By huh?

February 12, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

ok here’s one for ya….

Last Friday night while driving back from the airport I was traveling north on 85 sometime around 9:30pm. I was over in the left lane traveling at approx. 75 mph.

When all of a sudden a CITY OF DULUTH POLICE CAR comes blowing by me, changing lanes left and right (no signal of course), using the HOV lane, and continues to pull away from traffic. HE must have been running 85 - 90mph.

my question is WHY was a city of duluth police man WAY out of his jurisdiction and driving at an excessive speed?

Unit number 890 in case anyone was wondering.

When i made a call to the station to see why my tax dollars were being wasted, the lady who answered the phone offered to put me in touch with the shift commander….and wouldnt you just know it….his voice mail box was full. Funny how that works out, huh?

Randy Belcher and the DPD have wasted enough tax payers money….really, do we need a 2 horse team of mounted police officers, do we need a big RV style mobile command center, does anyone remember the camero police car Belcher used to drive? Im honestly surprised they didnt try to have a hella pad put in at their new station so they could buy a helicopter.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

sober citizen would you like to go you f*? I don’t care how sober you are I’ll stomp your lilly white a*.

By Independent Thinker

February 12, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

You stated the the police office was not acting in an official capacity as a police office because “he was not wearing a uniform, he was not driving an official vehicle, and he was not acting on orders from a superior officer. That makes him a private citizen.” I would say he was in a capacity as a police officer. I you average joe citizen had gotten into an altercation that lead to the shooting of the unoffical police officer. You, the police department and the media would have report him as a cop not a citizen. I beleive the office is GUILTY!!!

By Greg

February 12, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

The good cops cover up and lie for the bad ones, that makes them just as guilty.There taught its us against them.

By Lateshia

February 12, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

This criminal cop will get off with a slap on the wrist by judges and prosecutors who believe anything cops say. They lie all the time to get convictions, to pad their resume and get a bonus. If this had been a black man, he’d be locked up for 20 years. The justice system in Atlanta is racist against the minorities.

By f

February 12, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

If that is the case, then should Daley face charges as attempt and or assault on an officer,and endangerment to public safety snice others witnessed what took place.Should he also face a possible law siut for injury and medical exspense to the officer.

By Gammodm

February 12, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

AAA… enlighten me, but what percentage of people who get a DUI repeat offenders?

By Don Imus

February 12, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Is it ok for police officers not to give tickets to nurses and doctors if they stop them for speeding or other traffic violations?

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Gammodm:

In my experience, repeat offenders are a rarity. There is a special form you sign for all dui classes that is for repeat offenders AND normal offenders to sign. Let me read one. ok. for the second dui in 5 years you have to not only complete the DUI course, but get a secondary clinical evaluation to top it. Generally this is the kiss of death for your driver’s liscense.

I have, however, seen a select few individuals who are still running around on 3 and 4 DUI’S. Concerned citizen would be livid. I myself would bow to agreeing with him for these guys…I mean 4 DUI’s? Yes, that is time to call a spade a spade.

Unfortunately, these aren’t the people getting DUI in duluth. Anyone who smells suspicious does, and the duluth cops are only looking to hand them out for revenue; they don’t care who’s life they ruin or job they destroy, as a matter of fact they really couldn’t care less about anyone but those who they answer to.

There was this one guy this day in here who answered yes to detox. I asked him the specifics and he said they threw him in a marine heroine detox unit for a month. I was like ok, when was that? He goes “um…I think it was right after I got out.” So I said “Got out of what?” he goes “Prison.” I had this overriding urge to stand up and run.

But no, there aren’t many repeat offenders, not that I see anyways. They usually comprise around 2% of all DUI individuals. Then again, by the time a second one looms over their heads they pretty much know to not cooperate with law enforcement or to not speed when driving drunk. There’s plenty of drunk drivers on the roads the cops don’t catch despite wanting to. Some folks are wiser than the police.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Oh this was just brought to my attention by one of these ‘dangerous criminals’ who gets DUI. He’s correct because I just looked it up: If you punch a police officer it is less bail cost than a dui. 250=punch the cop out. 1400= DUI. If it ever happens to me (which it won’t) I would punch the cop or do something completely insane. Chances are kicking out the window of his patrol car is a smaller headache than these bible belt hooligans who enacted these DUI laws.

people getting killed by drunk drivers is absolutely terrible. Terrible. But the wounded families of these people sobbing and crying to the government to enact tougher DUI laws are just that: wounded, damaged soccer moms who really should just shut up and stay home. And those are terrible, too. Any time something grows completely out of whack because of some damaged jerk’s crying is a time to re-evaluate the situation and use common sense. The government has just about outlawed the use of it.

By DJ

February 12, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

One officers action is not a reflection of the entire department. Come on people lets get real. If I have a bad experience at Publix’s is every Publix employee bad????

By BILLT

February 12, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

We are all aware that actions we take impact us on every level. If I get arrested for DUI, there’s a chance that I might get terminated from my employment even if I was off the job when I was stopped. If I get arrested for solicitation and it were published in the paper. I would surely lose my job.

Is it fair? Maybe not, but it’s real life. Abuse of power is wrong. It’s even more important that a Government or Police employee show NO abuse of power on or off duty.

By Luther

February 12, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

All I need to say is that BEFORE Michael Vick was convicted, the media had already convicted him…where the fairness in that???

By Concerned Citizen

February 12, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Wow!!!!

I’ve been challenged to a physical fight. We have had someone talking about racism, don’t know where that one came from since Daily is not black. Someone even asked about nurses and doctors getting traffic tickets? Why wouldn’t they? Sounds like we have a collection of Atlanta’s biggest idiots logged on. It is entertaining though I must admit.

AAA, If I agree to the “boxing match” are you going to bring your mother with you? I’ll be your huckleberry. Give me a description of you car and I’ll meet you anywhere you want. As long as it’s convenient for me. But really, you are a child.

I think the dispute over repeat DUI offenders is missing one aspect. You folks are debating “repeat” based on if they were arrested. How many times do you think a drunk drives before actually being arrested? Do you think these drunken fools are virgin drinkers and just happen to be arrested their first time? If you think that then buy me a ticket to your world, I need a vacation. I’m sure all AAA’s druken friends would say it was their first time, no wait, all his drunk friends are not guilty.

So now we got “speed traps” too. How do those differ from “DUI Traps.”

AAA, you have imagined you have a contact with the GBI. That’s pathetic and cute at the same time. I have met people like you before. You think your some important VIP and make up stories to impress your friends. Or should I say all your imaginery friends. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to listen to your BS for more than 3 minutes.

I have heard no one refute my evidence about DUI and traffic fatalities. I have had no one explain what a “DUI Trap” is, including its inventor (AAA). It seems we all like to ignore hard evidence and good facts. I guess it’s more fun to challenge people to fights and throw out unsupported personal biasis and try to pass it off as evidence.

AAA, I am not going to emial you. I really think you are legally retarded and feel bad for you. I’m sorry I insulted your retarded Korean girlfriend too. I don’t know what came over me.

By another citizen

February 12, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

AAA- you seem to not know very much about the law and have some very poor views on things. 1st if you were to punch a police officer you might be able to get out on $250 bail but what about when you go to your court date? That is just bail plus on top of punching out a police officer if you were drinking you’d have more charges than just assult on a law enforcement officer. Also you said before that Duluth was out for people who were sitting in there apartment buildings. Well if they are in there car and it is running then it can be considered a DUI whether they are driving the vehicle at the time or not. Maybe you should learn the facts before you speak. The officer that shot the other officer should be investigated and serve his time like any other citizen.

By Concerned Citizen

February 12, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

AAA,

If you punch a cop that is a felony. The bond on any felony is more than $250 idiot. If a person offers to do violence to a peace officer it is considered felony resisting or obstructing law enforcement.

Someone call the Gwinnett County Magistrate and ask them what an average bond would be on a case where a person punched a peace officer, even a Duluth officer. Then post that response. I cannot do it because AAA would not believe me. I’m willing to bet it would be in the $5,000 range if not more depending on the circumstances. Oh yeah, kicking a window out in a police car is interfering with Govt property and it is also a felony. Like I said, we just have people spouting personal opinion and biasis from their sewers filthy located below their nose. Mainly it is AAA.

AAA is close on the DUI bond amount (1400-1500). Good job, .02% of what you say is close to being correct.

By Mac

February 12, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Concerned Citizen, I totally agree with what you are saying, But whay are you wasting your time going toe to toe with a rather ignorant AAA???? Just curious…… =)

By Beav

February 12, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

Who farted?????

By Concerned Citizen

February 12, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Look what AAA has done. I am now siding with the Duluth PD because of him. One officer flipping out is not evidence of widespread corruption. Being strict on traffic laws is not evidence of widespread corruption. I was raised in a small town in OH. It was known that the cops in town were strict on speeding laws. So people slowed down. There was no talk of corruption. But today, controversy sells papers or get you folks to log onto news websites. Georgia has some of the toughest speeding laws that actually favor the violators. As far as I can tell, Duluth follows all the laws, but they just are stricter in their enforcement. The same thing was in the paper about Lawrenceville PD a year or so ago. Lawrenceville is strict on speeders, especially in school zones. This comment is for the “We the people” guy. Where in the Const. does it say the government shall not abridge your right to be DUI or to speed? It doesn’t.

So stop with the “DUI Traps”, “Speed Traps”, and all the other nonsense about imaginery federal investigations. You folks that actually want change are hurting your cause. Instead of spouting out personal biasis and “A friend told me” stories, call the mayor, call the city council. Ask them to review Duluth’s hiring practices. Ask them to look into how the Department is ran on a day to day basis. Ask about the lavish equipment. If you have evidence of police misconduct then contact Danny Porter. But don’t pick up the phone and rant about “DUI Traps.” We talk about civil rights and the Constitution. Those same laws apply to police officers. Yes, they get the same rights. Stop with the “cops cover for other cops” nonsense. If that was true, wouldn’t you try to help your friend. It’s human nature to help and cover for people you care about. Wouldn’t most of you cover for your children or loved ones or close friends? And don’t start telling me you wouldn’t because you lose all credibility then.

If AAA was using his employment at Wendy’s to lure small children so he could molest them would we think all Wendy’s employees were perverts? Please if you have hard evidence and not the grapevine stuff bring it fwd. And I don’t mean call the GBI on your imaginery radio AAA.

By AAA Stomper

February 12, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Let’s rumble AAA!!!!

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

concerned I work near the police station, drive an acura and will see you to that fight you weak homo. you’ll see the sign.

You better be ready to roll big boy because I will break your g******* neck. Be there or be square a***** I’m ready as of right now.

By AAA stomper

February 12, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Bring it on AAA if you feel man enough!

By AAA stomper

February 12, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

Bring it on AAA if you feel man enough!

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

let’s go boy, I’m right here.

By Concerned Citizen

February 12, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Mac,

I’m gonna be honest. Every now and then I have to let my immature side loose. The facts and overall message or true. However, I do add in some personal shots to keep it cheeky and fun. I only fire if fired upon. I prefer to argue facts and evidence. I will not go all the way down to AAA’s level, but I am willing to meet him halfway. I don’t think my IQ could drop down to his level anyway. Ooops, look I did it again. I think it’s a sickness. I need help. I can’t stop because AAA is an drunken idiot………

By AAA stomper

February 12, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I’M READY!!!! STICKEM UP PAL, WISEGUY

By AAA stomper

February 12, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I’M READY!!!! STICKEM UP PAL, WISEGUY

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Concerned I’m still waiting for you to put up or shut up old man. You’re the biggest idiot I’ve ever seen. So how about that charity boxing match? Because I WILL WIN IT homo. Game?

By Luthur P

February 12, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Black brothers are unfairly targeted at these DUI stops. Last week, the dude I was with was stopped by some redneck cop in Cobb County for DUI and he wasn’t even drinking, just because he was a brother. I’m tired of the racism in these ga counties! Hopefully, we get Barrack Obama in there to put an end to all this racism in America! The brothers need to revolt!

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

whatever concerned, If I see you it’s on. don’t be crying when you get put in the hospital. You earned it.

By Mac

February 12, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Concerned Citizen, I have done the same thing on a different issue & I got so freaking annoyed how it got off topic & it just infuriated me. Turned into racial profiling, education, name calling, etc…I got so freakin mad b/c it went off topic…(dog fighting)So I do understand keeping it going… By the way you sound VERY educated on this topic. I too was in the military (voluntarily) & served my country so the dweebs like AAA have Freedon of Speech…., but it seems you know the law….In that field at all? I know several PO’s in several counties…..All nice guys, doing what they do best…Upholding the law….. =)

By Concerned Citizen

February 12, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

AAA,

Maybe you can bring your Mother or drunk Korean girlfriend to the fight. Looks like I have a tag-team partner. AAA Stomper, I think we need to get matching outfits and I want 10% of the pay-per view profits. I’m going to wear a mask like those Mexican wrestlers. My new wrestling name is “El Nacho Bell Grande, with salsa.”

Did all the cops get AAA’s message about where he works and what he drives? Please let there be a cop here when I need one. I am offering a bounty on AAA. First cop to arrest him for anything gets my friendship forever. That includes Duluth cops and State Troopers.

By Don Imus

February 12, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Concerned Citizen…

please think with me for a moment…..if i go too fast, please raise your hand and ill slow down.

Nurses and doctors are the people that treat police officers in hospitals when they get gun shot wounds…much like the one talked about in this article.

Now i know doctors take the hippocratic oath to do no harm, but lets be real…people are people.

Police officers know that nurses and doctors are the ones that when their lives are on the line come to the resuce….dont you think police officers want doctors and nurses on their good side….and not thinking about how they gave them a ticket last week

By SC

February 12, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

I just requested to the AJC that all of the comments by “Concerned Citizen”, “Jais AAA Duluth” and “AAA Stomper” be removed. The three of you are acting ridiculous and are distracting those who actually would like to discuss the situation in Duluth in a normal way. I’m sure many others will agree with me about this. Please AJC … remove these people from being able to comment on this story!

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

I was a marine, homo. Again, boxing match? No? Give your military bullsht a rest, you aren’t the only ones with service time under your belts. You ARE two of the biggest idiots ever, though.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

lol SC nobody cares. this liberal rag is full of drunks and idiots, don’t expect a damn thing to be done.

By Dan

February 12, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

AAA & Concerned - I’m in tears laughing, keep up the good work!

By Concerned Citizen

February 12, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Luther P,

Wrong forum dude! The racial profiling and racism forum is two doors down. We don’t care about racism in this forum. Actually, I don’t really know what we care about other than the big wrestling match and AAA future arrest.

Let me guess Luther P, your one of those guys that cries racism everytime something bad happens to you. Kinda like the drunks that cry “DUI Trap” when they get caught? Dude save it for Al Sharpton and Rev Jesse. Your friend screwed up, was probably high on weed, and got caught. Live with it and tell him to take responsibility for his actions. Like I said, Everyone is innocent. Why do we even have jails? Nobody does anything wrong. Right AAA? Momma’s boy.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

I’m still waiting you scared woman…I’m right here. you want a phone number? Come on over so the doctors can get you in traction before your tv shows come on. I’m dead serious concerned, I’ll throw you around like the homo you are.

By SPELL CHECK

February 12, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Luther P,

First off, I doubt your “friend” got stopped simply because he was black.

Black isn’t against the law (I’m sure there’s a joke in there somewhere)

and please….if you’re going to support OBAMA….please learn to spell his first name. Its Barack, not BARRACK.

Ignorant democrat! maybe Obama can give you and your homie some spelling lessons once he’s in office. Or maybe he can give your baby’s mama some more welfare to have more kids and sit around and do nothing to contribute to society. Problem with people like LUTHER P is he and his homies want everything handed to them just for showing up. “oh, the gub’ment owes me…yall white people owe me” LUTHER…please move back to Africa

Oh and LUTHER…if you and your “brothas” want to revolt, just let me know and we can arrange that.

By Concerned Citizen

February 12, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

AAA,

I’m glad you were in the Navy. And that means what girlfriend?

DING, DING, DING.

I agree with AAA for once, this is a “liberal rag.” Are we friends now Momma’s boy?

SC,

I agree, lets censor all of us. I’m on board if it means AAA won’t be allowed to post again. Or better yet you can call AAA’s mother and tell her to unplug his PC.

Wait, all the tree-huggers will complain because that would be violating free speech right? It’s the American way to be able to say whatever you want no matter how stupid the statement maker is. We have living proof in the form of AAA and Luter P. Uh oh, I think I just found AAA a tag-team partner.

Mac,

I’m sorry, I can’t help it. I’m really sorry. I’m an addict now. I learned it from watching you AAA.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

whoa whoa whoa whoa….

By surelyyejest

February 12, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

concernedcitizen and AAA…..Why don’t y’all just get together and spoon each other?

By surelyyejest

February 12, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

This way, you can just get rid of the tension between each other and finally be together. It’s ok. We won’t judge.

By A*

February 12, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

I’ve been pulled by these DUI stops myself when I was not drinking. At night time cops cannot tell who is in the car until after they pull you over. Was I p** I got pulled over, YES, but I am not sure it had anything to do with race.

By Warning

February 12, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Be careful surely, you might get on SC’s blocked list. But I agree, they are arguing like lovers do.

By die hard police fan

February 12, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Yall a trip!

One person’s action does effect the organization that he or she works for.

Good example- Mike Vick and the Falcons.

If one rogue FBI agent did this, you think they will just focused on him? Heck no they will go after the FBI because they have nothing better to do.

So as for this situation, we wasnt there

I always believe if you didnt anything wrong then cooperate with the police. It sure pays to be honest with people than to lie about it.

I remember the time I didnt have car insurance and I was on my way to the car insurance place to get insurance. The officer put his lights on because my right rear lights were not working. I was like dang, and so I told the officer of the problem. He wasnt a Duluth Officer but a Dekalb County officer.

The point is I have been through Duluth county few times, and I got to admit I have seen the Duluth Officers’ cruiser car. I feel if you dont give them a reason to bother you then you shouldnt worry.

If there is corruption with Duluth Police Department, crying about it on a blog isn’t going to do nothing. It one thing to say so and so is corrupt but unless you have concerte evidence stating your statement then it is just all talk.

Common sense is NOT TO DRINK AND DRIVE. Goto the liquor store and then go home. A $20 round of drinks has the potential to esclated into a $5000 problem (bail and lawyer and fines and fee) and not to mention embrassment.

Ask yourself are you the problem or the answer? Be the solution!

By surelyyejest

February 12, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

I just figured with Valentine’s day coming up and all, they are staging a big tiff so that the make up will be that much more special.

By Don Imus

February 12, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

A

Dont you know that cops are given special glasses that allows them to see into the car and see the race of the driver, even when it’s dark outside.

Apparently, you don’t know about LUTHER P……all the “brotha’s” know about these glasses. How else do you think all the cops pull manage to pull over LUTHER P and his homies when its dark….its because they know theyre black. not speeding or swerving, its all race man.

just another case of whitey trying to keep a brotha down.

In the words of Jim Jones “NOW YOU KIDS DRINK YOUR KOOL-AID AND FOLLOW ME.”

By really

February 12, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

die hard police fan

Really? You’ve been through “Duluth County” a few times.

REALLY…you’ll have to tell me where that is, cause I do love a good mystery.

By A*

February 12, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

Gosh, I didn’t know about these glasses. Well then he must be prejudice against women who are blond. That must be why I was pulled over.

By Concerned Citizen

February 12, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Surely,

Do you really want me to turn my aggression on you? AAA will challenge you to a fight too.

Warning,

You stay out of it. This is between me and my girlfriend AAA.

A*,

WTF? Are you saying you got stopped at night but were not drinking? Well good for you. I bet lots of folks get stopped who have not been drinking. I’m glad you feel the need to share that story. I’m now 5% dumber after reading it. Get off the computer and get your coloring book back out.

Dan,

I’m sorry. I have to take a break. I’m sure this forum is about to be shut down by the evil ajc liberals anyway.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

oh god jonestown I just now got that.

By SpankyMonkey

February 12, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

Thanks ‘By Warning’, in your own unique way you’ve made just about the most sense of anyone on this whole thread!

By SC

February 12, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Listen guys, I’m not for “censorship”, but you have to admit that you’ve taken the “threats” a bit far. It’s just distracting - let’s all try to be respectful of each other. Both of you have made valid points - but you’ve completely destroyed the sense of respect for those opinions anyone might have had by acting the way you have. We’re all adults here and concerned about the situation with not only Officer Dailey, but the Duluth PD in general. I live in Duluth, and the situation wtih the PD there is questionable at best - it’s definitely worrisome.

By A*

February 12, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

“Concerned Citizen” so sorry your intelligence was compromised by 5%. My comment was made in respone to “Luther P” But then again if you read this I may have brought it down another 5%, gosh I really need to get back to coloring.

By Cool story!

February 12, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Hey all, one day I was driving along and got pulled over. I wasn’t drinking either. Cool story huh?!?!?!

By Cocerned Citizen

February 12, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

A*,

I’m so sorry. You explained yourself pefectly, you’re blond. Being blond is like having a mild mental illness.

Hey, I’ve been stopped by police four times in my life. Once in NY, once by GSP, once in FL, and one time by GCSO. I do half my driving in Duluth and have never been stopped. And I wasn’t drunk anytime. Does everyone feel better knowing that now?

SC,

If I wanted your opinion I would have kicked your water dish.

Mac,

Sorry, I’m just getting plain mean now. See what AAA has done.

AAA,

Nevermind. I’m tired, so very tired.

By Mac

February 12, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Concerned Citizen No worries!!!! I’m enjoying the vent…excuse me…blog…. =) Like I said, been there done this…LOL LOL….

By OhBlahDi

February 12, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

I don’t like cops. I think the job attracts the same sort of people you would expect to join “Death Squads” in Central America, or the Secret police types in former East Germany.

I also got a DUI that I didn’t deserve. That was devastating, I lost my job and nearly lost my house. I’m still recovering from it financially.

Having said all of that I’d like to address the issue of this cop that shot the one in uniform. Something is wrong with the guy, I would guess we can all agree on that.

As a society we need to address the fact that people often have psychological problems that need attention. The fact is, there’s nowhere in GA to get that attention.

We also need to ask ourselves why we are the most violent nation on Earth. We seem to take murder for granted, as if it were just part of life. That’s not true in many other “developed” nations. In fact, it’s not true in many of the third world countries I’ve visited and worked in.

I’m just stating facts and true observations. I wish I had solutions. I would be glad to listen to anyone who has ideas. I look forward to a new type of government, someday, that will address social problems in a responsible way.

Concerning the “shooter” cop… If he goes to prison for twenty years have we solved a problem? Probably not, we just hide the problem. He needs medical attention and as someone else pointed out, so do a lot of the people he arrested.

Call me names, I don’t care.

By Mac

February 12, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/15281997/detail.html

UPDATE FROM DAILY’S 1ST COURT ROOM APPEARNACE….IT’S OBVIOUS HE NEEDS TO GET HELP…..

By Semper Fi

February 12, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

AAA calls you a “homo” if he disagrees with you. Obviously, AAA is a latent homosexual. He claims to be a Marine. (In the great tradition of Charles Whitman and Lee Harvey Oswald?) If he were really serious about physically confronting his enemies, he would post his name, address and phone number.

By Jay's sister

February 12, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

For those of you who really do care and would like to make a difference, may I ask you to pray for Jay’s parents. They are fantastic people who are really hurting. People of Duluth reach out and show love and kindness to Jay’s wife, a stay at home mom, who now has become a single mom. Offer her a job, pray for her and their little son. We are really human beings with hearts that are so broken. Let’s end this blog and move on. Please!

By Michael McCarthy

February 12, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

I wish my little town in Jefferson had a blog like this.

By Sneezy

February 12, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

Jay’s Sis,

Why doesn’t your family make some sort of statement to the press? Did you know or suspect there was a problem? Do you have any idea what the problem is?

By Jais AAA duluth

February 12, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

My email addy is clearly visible for anyone to request that info semper, including you. Go ahead, roll the dice and see where you end up.

By Sneezy

February 12, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

AAA,

You continue to amaze me. You started out with some points but then revealed yourself as an idiot. What sort of dope are you on? It’s like you started writing at two beers and have progressed to twelve… Why don’t you post a quick video with your webcam on Youtube? I dare you.

By Concerned Citizen

February 12, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

Ohbladi,

Has there ever been a drunk that thought “Gosh I had that one coming.”? But I admire your honesty. I’ll go back to my “taking responsibility for your actions” speech. Mental disorder or no mental disorder, he should be locked up. We can’t have people shooting cops and saying that Satin made them do it when they get caught and everything goes away. Maybe we need a few death squads? I’d be interested in reading the qualifications and job description.

Sneezy,

No AAA never had any valid points. AAA hitched his wagon to “DUI Traps” and cops should just let every drunk go unless they get in an accident. Having a point of view and a rational point of view are two different things.

Luther P,

I haven’t heard from you lately. You bailing your brotha outta jail tonight?

SC,

How is that censorship think going? How exactly do you get in touch with the Lord of the AJC? Are you using AAA imagnery phone he calls the FBI with?

AAA,

If you rap your head in metal foil you get better reception to FBI HQ. Hang on, I think I hear your “special phone” ringing. No wait, that’s your mother calling from upstairs.

By Concerned Citizen

February 12, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

Jay’s sisiter,

Stop being so selfish! Have I heard anyone appoligize to the family of the injured Fulton Officer? I’m sure his wife and kids are thrilled your kind and gentle brother tried to gun him down in the street like a dog. When Jay makes a public apology to Cpl. Phillips, I will consider caring about Jay’s family. Until then they are just another family led by a common criminal. I guess Jay’s wife will need to get a job now. My heart bleeds for her!

Yes, I know I will never be writing sympathy cards for hallmark.

By Concerned Citizen

February 13, 2008 12:28 AM | Link to this

Ohbladi,

Did I say I wanted to join a “death squad”? No, read my post you idiot. That’s right, all you have to do is scroll up. I posed the question about the need for “death squads.” I simply said I would be interested in reading the job qualifications. You do not know my background from previous posts because you just entered the conversation. How about you take the time to read the previous posts and then respond at the end. You might like the ongoing conversation, Dan and Mac both find it to be good reading. You know you are a fool for comparing modern day American law enforcement to German secret police or Central American “Death Squads.” Dude, get away from the TV and read some non-fiction books for a change. This is why kids are running wild. Their parents are filling their heads with all this BS about corrupt government and secret police and secret FBI/GBI investigations. It’s been my experience that if you are not breaking the law or acting like a criminal, the police usually don’t bother you. And if they do bother you it’s for brief period until you can explain yourself.

I am still hearing about all this known corruption in Duluth, but still see no proof? A lot of you can talk a good game. However, no one wants to suit up and take the field! Does anyone have hard evidence about Duluth PD corruption? I will not accept “DUI Traps”, “Speed Traps”, my poor Korean mail order bride, I mean Korean intern was arrested for DUI, or any other story that starts with “My friend was arrested once.” If you want to offer a story about your personal arrest please include a case # from Duluth PD so the case can be checked. If it comes down to your word against the cops, you lose. You were drunk and he wasn’t. Is Duluth PD planting evidence? Are they executing innocent people on the side of the road? Are they selling drugs or protecting drug rackets? Don’t come to the ballpark with “they make a lot of questionable DUI arrests” and “They strictly enforce traffic laws.” THAT IS NOT CORRUPTION. It’s the cops doing the job they are paid to do. It’s folks like you that turn good cops into an angry army of occupation. If you support your police, they will most likely support you. If you always go out of your way to voice your negative opinions what do you think will happen?

I started my earlier posts with the view of Duluth PD needing change. However, some of you fools make me reconsider. It might not be the Duluth PD, it’s the citizens. I can’t believe some of you get to breath my air!

By JB

February 13, 2008 12:50 AM | Link to this

What is funny…all this complaining about very few police officers. From the jest of it, the majority is against police officers, in this forum with a few supporters (prob. cops themselves). Well, Im not defending criminal actions (alleged or not)but let’s just do away with all police and have society run it’s course. What WILL happen is disorder and chaos, and when someone “Speeding” or “robbing” you or a loved one…who will you call now? Batman? Geesh, grow…in every society, work group, gender, ethnic background are people who do stupid things…for whatever reason or not. As far as giving Gwinnett Sheriff’s Dept. the city of duluth?…They cant even find their own PBJ sandwich, much less another TASER cartridge…bunch of morons wanting to be the police.

By Mac

February 13, 2008 7:35 AM | Link to this

There are bad seeds in all walks of life & professions, this includes police officers, doctors, lawyers, military personnel, & your average everyday citizen. Bottom line, you break the law (who ever you are) you do the time. So Dailey is a cop. Who Cares? That does not mean the whole Duluth PD are bad apples. Get real. Dailey will have his day in court & will hopefully get what is coming to him if found guilty. You say he has mental issues & “Snapped” well he will get his help in jail or the psych ward.

If you do not like living & or driving through the City of Duluth, either leave, find another way home or whatever, quit the senseless b!tching if you do not have anything to back any of your claims up & have the balls to do something about it!!!!

By jc

February 13, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

I travel all over the Southeastern US and have seen any police Dept that spends the tax payers money in such a needless way as the Duluth Dept. How many trailers, trucks, cars and motor homes does a one horse town need, all they do is write speeding tickets on Peachtree Ind.Blvd. In my opinion the city officials need to get a handle on this Dept and fast.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 13, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

we all know jc. This citizen guy is a troll moron, just disregard what he says. He likes to posture big and talk alot but I can guarantee you he won’t talk to anyone like that face to face.

By Gwinnett Overlord

February 13, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Remember folks, Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Doesnt matter what profesion you are in.

By Gwinnett Overlord

February 13, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Remember folks, Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Doesnt matter what profesion you are in.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 13, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Agreed overlord. I was just chatting with another duluth police officer today in line for fast food and mentioned this. He just rolled his eyes and made a very good point: People in these police departments buddy-up and form their own little cliques. You get good ones and bad ones. Ones close to the folks they work around, and those close to their bosses. Daily was a guy who pretty much kept quiet and kept to himself. If he had many friends on the force, they should be investigated. As for the guy in line, some of you are right. He had nothing going on as far as corruption I could see.

Now for the opinion that it’s stupid to investigate them: This is hardley unfair. At my job we get suprise audits and check-ups to make sure we stay honest. The police receive no such checks. Someone said should they investigate me in such an unfair manner? They do, jack. They do. I have no problem with it because I do not sell dui certificates illegally, or do anything else illegal. It’s just business, the way I see it. Sure, don’t jump the sht of people who did anything wrong. But maybe asking them a few questions is hardley hounding them unfairly, and this is all the investigators do.

I’ve seen a lot of people here who can tell like I do that something is not right. Save for two or three of the posters, the majority here sees this and I am very pleased that this subject finally was dragged kicking and screaming into the open. I’ve noticed them curb themselves quite quickly around here the past week, and I have to say things are looking up. (Or seem to be)

By delta1965

February 13, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

To Jay’s sister I am friends with Jay and his wife, they have been in my prayers since this all happened. I just think something happened that day that made Jay snap, he just needs medical help to discover what happened and how to fix it. This is so not the jay I know.

To all of you that say the Duluth PD is corrput, show me the proof. Until then don’t judge the entire PD for what Jay did off duty.

By Virgil Cole

February 13, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

From what I understand police officers are never really “off duty”. They may be off work, but I think they take an oath to uphold the law 24/7.

By Virgil Cole

February 13, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

From what I understand police officers are never really “off duty”. They may be off work, but I think they take an oath to uphold the law 24/7.

By soundsgay

February 13, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

This sounds GAYISH.

By Greg

February 13, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

The frustration is Duluth takes pride in being one of the highest traffic ticket money generating cities per capita in the U.S. They are notorious for being hard to deal with, and at times down right obnoxious. The pride and egos behind those badges prove the are not protecting the people who really need it, and they serve self. Rarely do you have an encounter with an officer in any situation (even when you are a victim) where you feel they are in a service industry. As someone who pays the salaries w/ my taxes, I find that just plain insulting.

By Greg

February 13, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Oh btw, I do feel sorry for him, and his family I really do. I just want to see him get the same thing a young blk kid would get if he shot an off duty cop. Drug dealer or cop, he shot another officer. He will not get equal treatment, his badge will help him out of this in many ways, and PROVE there is a system here that not just supports it’s own, it safe guards them.

By jabster

February 13, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Concerned Citizen at 1:31 on 2/9 wrote:

“If I remember correctly the lady that got her hair pulled was a DUI suspect that refused to get out of the car. In my opinion she got what she deserved. “

And the cop left her sitting in the middle of PIB, in a traffic lane with cars whizzing by, with handcuffs for a full minute (go back and watch the film with a stopwatch).

When you arrest someone YOU become responsible for their welfare while in custody. Would she have “gotten what she deserved” if she had gotten RUN OVER due to this cop’s unprofessional behavior? Anyone who says “yes” with a DUI sob story about a drinking driver who ran over their cat can cry me a river.

And, no, I have NEVER had a ticket or anything from the City of Duluth.

You don’t scream at someone and yank their hair just because you’re hopped up on adrenaline or “cop-caine”.

By RAD

February 13, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

Lets look at he off duty Atlanta cop and the Cobb County cop firing on a man trying to leave Winstons on Sandy Plains (Atlanta cop thought he was flirting with his girl friend..). You will never hear anything about it again. They cover there own. Thats why they all have the black sticker with the thin blue line on thier personal cars. They get off on speeding tickets, dui’s and anyother incident that is not on film. Its due in part to the very low education level of most of these skin head wanna bees… Absolute power DOES corrupts absolutely.

By SICK & TIRED

February 13, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

I use to respect police officers. I have 2 brother-in-laws that are in law enforcement. However, I have seen and heard about so much corruption in the police department in this country,that it makes me sick. In my 48 yrs on this earth, I had never been in trouble with the law before, until stopped by a fulton county police officer back in 05. The officer initially said he stopped me for going 10 miles over the speed limit. He asked if I had been drinking and I told him I had earlier. I did the sobriety thing at the scene and he still was not sure if I was .08 or not, so he took me downtown. Once I got to the police station, he asked me to blow on the machine. I refused to do so without consulting an atty first. When I refused, the officer became so enraged, you would have thought I slapped his momma. I said to him, officer, surely I’m not the frist person to refuse to blow without consulting an atty first. Needless to say, He threw me in jail, and I went before the judge the following morning, and heard 4 other charges against me including DUI. The speed he clocked me at went from 10mph over the speed limit to 29mph, no seatbelt, which I clearly unfastened when the officer asked for my insurance card which was in the glove compartment, reckless driving. I cannot remember what the 5th charge was. Needless to say I was in shock when those charges was read to me by the judge. After my experience and hearing about the poor lady in chicago that was beaten by an off duty cop in the bar, and the lady who was killed here in the atl, because they thought she, or drugs was being sold out of her house, that if I saw police officer laying on the side walk having a heart attack, I would simply step over him and keep going about my business. I know its not christian, but thats how I feel.

By tampadawg

February 13, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Duluth cops are a joke and an embarssment to gwinnett county. They need to learn a thing or two from those amazing cops in the city of Norcross.

By pat

February 13, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Duluth cops are the lowest on the totem pole. I think if you aren’t a scumbag they won’t hire you. They can all kiss my a$$. I hope a probe digs into the obvious corruption that exists there. This guy is just one crazy leaf on on a giant tree of scandal and corruption.

Why isn’t an oversight commsion by citizens set up to investigate complaints against police? You certainly can’t trust them to do it themselves. When they put on that uniform they can do anything to anybody that they want and there is nothing the average citizen can do about it, but take it. They pretty much do what they want unchecked unless the news media gets a hold of the story.

By Paul Fontaine

February 13, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

ourse you can blame the Duluth Police Department. They are the ones that selected this guy.

By Stephen

February 13, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

Wow. Boo Hoo. Duluth’s finest are all a bunch of violent idiots. Go write another article. This time, perhaps on Gwinnett’s PD. “Not everyone to blame” for the multiple taser incidents, “just the sheriff who backs such outrageous practices.”

By marcelle

February 13, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

SICK & TIRED, under Ga Law you are not entitled to have a lawyer present when submitting to an alco-sensor. When the state issues you a drivers license they do so as a privledge to you. You don’t have a legal right to a drivers license. In them allowing you to drive you submit to certain things, such as surrendering them upon demand, submitting to test of your breath, blood or other bodily subtances for the purpoise of detection of alcohol ot drugs, etc. BY FAILING TO SUBMIT TO THE TEST your drivers license can be suspended for a period of time as specified by law and you can still be charged with DUI. Now, why don’t you continue with your story and tells us what happend in court?

By Stacy

February 13, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

I’m scared for life from 20 years of military and 2 years as a cop. Return to being a human!!?? Never :)

Daly is perpetrator, pure and simple.

By exduluth

February 13, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

I lived in Duluth for 2 years (lived, past tense). Speed traps during rush hour, traps on 120 for lane “infractions”, coworkers getting speeding tickets for going 6 miles per hour over the speed limit and two lane change tickets for me in one year was enough. If you have ever gone to the new Duluth Courthouse on Buford Highway you’ll know they are pulling in tens of thousands of dollars every time court is in session. That Italian marble tile on the floor isn’t cheap! Look behind the building and check out the dual axle trucks and crotch rockets. Those toys are expensive and the Duluth PD has a revenue stream, motorists.

With meth houses all over and illegals a few blocks from the Duluth courthouse waiting to be picked up for work, you’d think they would do something about that, but that would be real work, hard work. They don’t seem to be into fighting crime as much as being a ticket writer. I can see their unwillingness. I wouldn’t be happy about becoming an officer to fight crime and do the right thing and then get handed a pad of tickets and given a quota. May has well sell used cars than be a cop. As an aside, there couldn’t be crime at the old Bailey’s, just free food for cops. Looked like a satellite office for the Duluth PD. No wonder Bailey’s went out of business; feeding all those damn cops.

I have moved where I lived and now we are looking into moving our office out of Duluth and that is directly due to the activities of the Duluth Police Department.

I hope Dailey gets the maximum for his crime and the Duluth Police department gets overhauled.

By Greg

February 13, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

I have lived in Duluth 17 years — never received a ticket. I have had very positive experiences with the Duluth Police Department. So, all you gloom and doomers - not everyone shares your misery. There is a lot going right in this city.

By Jais AAA duluth

February 13, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

Yes now that the issue with corruption is in the public eye. They have really backed off on their usual ticket squads since Daily p** their whiskey.

By Bertram Cates

February 13, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

AAA is a troll. Not that I object to that — but a cut-rate, incompetent one swiftly loses any value. His technique: Cry “homo” and then challenge respondent to a fist-fight. AAA needs to read Troll 101: How to Lose Friends and Influence Blogs.

This “I’m a tough marine, and I will beat you up” is pathetic. And, anybody that hollers “Homo!” as much as this alky does probably fears that he is one.

By Concerned Citizen

February 13, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

To all my fans, sorry I took so long to reply.

Greg, I’m sure the Duluth Police will give you back your 1/4 of a cent of your taxes that goes towards their budget.

Tampadawg, Obviously you haven’t been through Norcross in a few years. Enough said. They really have a handle on crime (sarcasm).

Sick and Tired, Did you go through AAA’s DUI school? You spoke like a true disgruntled drunk who won’t take responsibility for his actions. Oh yeah, You have no right to talk to an attorney before taking a breath test. Look it up if you like.

To all others, For a while there it was just AAA nad I. I’m glad we got so many more interested. If I didn’t respond to you directly please don’t feel bad. I either agree with you(and you know who you are) or I thought your post was way to boring or stupid to reply to specifically.

What ever happen to the blond that liked telling stupid stories? How about the censorship lady that wanted AAA and I stricken from the record? Oh yeah and I can’t forget about Luther P and his brotha. Luther P where you at son?

Stephen, You do know the Gwinnett County Police and Gwinnett County Sheriff are two different departments? I think both use tasers though. Those are cool.

Jabster, If you remember the news story about the “hair pulling” incident, the cop told her to get out of the car. She said “No” and her car began to roll fwd. I’m glad the cop did what he had to do to stop her from driving. I beleive she plead guilty for DUI. At least she was big enough to admit fault. Duluth PD trying to criminally prosecute the officer was criminal in itself.

Pat, Yeah a Citizens oversight committe, good thinking. I’m a concerned citizen but I am smart enough to know that I don’t know jack about law enforcement. Well, I know a little. I used to watch Chips and TJ Hooker. Just what we need! A bunch of clueless idiots telling cops how to do their business. We have a citizen oversight panel. Its called the Mayor and city council! That’s right you also get to decide who sits on this panel at election time. I love the idea. Spend more tax dollars on a panel of fools that think the posted speed limit being to low for thier liking is a “trap.” Keep the ideas rolling.

I cant find these “speed traps” on 120, PIB, or Buford Hwy. All the signs are clearly posted. My wife got a ticket from Duluth PD about 7 years ago. Did I think the infraction was Chicken Sh%$: YES. Did my wife violate the law: Honestly YES. Did we pay the fine: YES. Did I think the fine amount was unreasonably high for the violation: YES. But oh well, we lived with it and she took responsibility for her actions. I didn’t cry to a blog and call for a federal investigation because she got caught doing something wrong and someone (cop) called her out on it.

AAA, I saved you for last my love. Just keep pumping out those DUI diplomas and getting those drunks back on the road so Duluth can generate revenue. If they arrest more drunks my taxes might go down.

By Concerned Citizen

February 13, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this

AAA, Yeah I know all this corruption is in the public eye. I see all this evidence you have presented. You are really legally retarded. At first I was just being sarcastic. I really think you are slow now. You are living in a totally different world. For christ sakes, this is like playing cards with my brother’s kids!

Bertram, I agree. AAA’s past of being in the Navy and his excessive use of “Homo” is evidence of Gayness. It may not stand up to AAA’s standard of corruption evidence, but it’s still compelling. I think he’s overcompensating.

AAA,

Do you drive a Mazda Miata?

By Wild Bill

February 13, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this

Here is the deal. Five to 10 percent of all people are just stupid. Police Officers, are “real” people… So… five to 10 percent of cops are stupid.

By bill

February 13, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this

You know what, here’s what I think of Duluth Cops: I wouldn’t p** on one if he was on fire. These pricks make a living off of writing tickets. I got a ticket when I moved here for an out of state tag that expired in Feb - this was in March, one month expired. In Georgia, the state gives you a month after you’ve moved here to transfer your tags. This prick wouldn’t listen to me, he just wrote out the ticket. $125, and I ended up paying it because I heard the Duluth Judge was crooked and I’d just waste my time going to court trying to fight it. So you know what I think - The Duluth Pig is dirty and it’s his fault. If he dies from his wounds I have no sympathy. I’ve got friends in the Gwinnett Police Department and from what I’ve heard from them, there’s no love lost there. So screw the Duluth Cop, I hope he goes to jail. You made your bed PIG, now live in it.

By jabster

February 13, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this

Concerned Citizen:

Re: The woman who got her hair pulled (rather, she got dragged out of her truck by her hair), I don’t deny she was drunk. That’s beside the point, unless you believe that a cop can do ANYTHING SHORT OF RAPE to a drunk driver. Maybe MADD does, but I don’t, nor do most folks.

Her truck was in gear and that’s why it rolled forward (have you seen the video?). The cop dragged her out of the truck AFTER the cop got the truck in Park (by reaching through the window) AND opened the door! She was NOT trying to drive off. Dragging her out of the truck was NOT necessary to stop the truck—think about it—if the truck was moving it would REALLY start moving if left in gear without a driver! Go watch the video!

She was dazed, and when the cop asked her to get out, she said a weak, feeble-voiced “no”—probably not knowing who she was talking to. The cop could have simply repeated the command and gotten compliance. But noooo! He got dissed, he got the chip knocked off, so he felt compelled to open up a can of whoop-tail on her—to teach her a lesson about “respecting authority”, I’m sure.

Then, after roughing-and-cuffing her, proceeds to leave her in the middle of PEACHTREE INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD, with cars whizzing by just a few feet from her body in the other lane, while he shoots the breeze with his backup for a good minute. Go watch the video!

Why didn’t he immediately put her in the back of his patrol car? Was he afraid he would vomit all over his pretty car? Was he trying to get good video for the trial (or the donut klatch)?

What if she got run over? If she got run over, the cop would have been guilty of voluntary manslaughter, assuming it went to trial and the grand jury didn’t let him off.

If I had been on a trial jury I would find him guilty of reckless conduct and neglect of a person in custody, and recommended that GAPOST revoke his certification.

On a different subject…

If the speed limit on a road is set less than the speed that 85% of motorists drive at or under, then under MUTCD (Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices) standards the road IS a speed trap. Look it up. Google “85th percentile”. You be the judge on how the roads in Duluth are posted.

Sounds to me that you think that law enforcement can do no wrong (tell that to the Fulton County cop who was shot—or the woman who was dragged out of her truck and thrown on the ground at Hartsfield by an APD cop). I also bet you think it’s IMMORAL to contest speed trap tickets or any other criminal charge, regardless of “guilt”.

People like you worry the crap out of me.

By jabster

February 13, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

Wild Bill:

You’re probably right. But the stupid/bad@$$ ones probably flock together.

The broke ones work for Gwinnett PD-lowest paid in the metro area. C’mon commissioners, let’s give those guys and gals a raise for once!

And, no, don’t make them start writing a bunch of tickets to pay their way. They work hard enough as it is (especially the ones out of the Norcross Precinct). If I wanted to live in a speed trap, I’d move to Cobb, Clayton, or N. Fulton.

By Michael

February 13, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

Why do any of these cities exist in Gwinnett? What do they offer that Gwinnett Co. cannot do 10 times better? We need to get rid of all of these cities or make them like Rest Haven or Berkley Lake with no real government. Funny how these cities want a police force first thing and not one fire dept. Whatever brings in the bucks!

By Carrie Nation

February 14, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

Cops should administer a Smith & Wesson “breathalyzer” on drunkards. The should unsheathe that hogleg, insert the muzzle inside the creature’s booze-guzzling piehole, and pull the trigger. then savor the explosive trip the hot slug makes. Cutting thru the palate and tunneling its way into the liquor-sponge brain. Ridding my planet of a useless but deadly alcoholic. Yes, drunk drivers should be summarily executed, their carcasses left to rot along the roadside as a deterrent to others of their slimy ilk. No pettifogging shyster can help them!

By omg

February 14, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Concerned, you have got to be the biggest fool on the internet. I thought world of warcraft was bad, but you take the 12 year old mentality to a whole new 10 year old level.

From what I heard Duluth cops are pretty crooked, but I guess I wouldn’t know anything, huh? That dude is right people like you worry the hell out of me.

By JakeGG

February 14, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

I heard they had a horse in that department, so I went down there.

Turned out it was the judge.

By Don

February 14, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Recent experiences with Lawrenceville and the Gwinnett police echo the problems with “John Wayne” style cops. The previous writer about bullies, this seems to be the norm with the young, inexperienced officers.

New Years Eve, 4 pm in the afternoon, looking to grab a bite to eat at my favorite downtown Lawrenceville eatery, I have the displeasure of pulling up to 3 officers who were standing at the temporary barriers erected for the downtown evening celebration, wanting to know where I might park to get to Uptown Café. From the three officers, out comes “John Wayne” yelling at me “Don’t you see the red light”? I did see the red light; my mistake was thinking I could roll up to them with my window down to ask a question while posing no danger to anyone. This officer seized the opportunity to write me a ticket. So much for assisting the public – let’s pounce on them and get the city another $98.

That event has taken the enjoyment I had over the past several years doing my part to support downtown shops and businesses. I can and will take it elsewhere. Sorry for the proprietors who are surrounded by this mentality, it does not serve them.

In another incident, “I can kick the door down”, the second statement after you refuse to let a Gwinnett county officer in “Your” house on a call about a domestic dispute - no crime involved.

Where do they come from? What kind of “Baggage” do they bring to the job? You wouldn’t want half of these guys dating your daughter, expressing the almighty power they believe they have.

When you encounter one of the “Gotta Getm’s”, ask for his senior officer, at least you can hope you get an officer with some wisdom and experience to calm the situation as opposed to trying to get you to provoke the youngster with a badge and gun.

I am not a habitual offender, just a taxpaying homeowner who has had two encounters with local police over time.

“Get them off the street” applies to this brand of police officer as much as it does to the criminals. Teach them to solve crime instead of working to find ways to arrest those who just have a small issue that does not need force to resolve.

Do not allow an uneducated, ignorant, arrogant officer to define your department. Move them on before they sour more citizens to your purpose.

By Former Cop

February 14, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

I really amazes me that so many people seem to hate the police and this officer in particular. The person that he shot is my best friend but I don’t hate him or think that Duluth PD is corrupt. I do find myself angry at times about what happened but other times I am thankful that Paul rolled up when he did. I have talked to the officer involved (Phillips) and more than anything else I think he feels betrayed by Dailey, as do I. It’s really easy to come on here and rant about a corrupt cop but you should all remember that every person in this world is loved by someone. Every person is someones hero, including Dailey. We all make mistakes and bad decisions some are just worse than others.

To Jay’s sister, I know this does not seem like it could be any worse but at least nobody died. There is not much I can say to comfort you and your family just remember you are never alone. And while this may seem like more than you can handle remember that God never promised to spare Christians from trials and trouble but he will never allow a burden to be so great that it will destroy a person. And don’t forget to ask Him for His help!

To all who think that the police are rotten you should remember that it was a good cop that put himself in harms way to stop this crime and save the life of numerous people. He would have done the same for any of you and there was a time when I bet Dailey would have too. If in the middle of the night someone is trying to break into your house or kill you and you cannot defend yourself you all know that you can call the police. Any time (day or night) they are willing to make your fight, their fight. How many of you, if a stranger called you at 4:00 am, would go and defend them putting your safety on the line? AAA, I bet you wouldn’t would you? Cowards.

By JakeGG

February 14, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

wow pig you got me sobbing. So you’re saying Dailey was the only one? I find that hard to swallow.

By shyst

February 14, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

The fact that you are having trouble swallowing something really does strike a cord! LOL

By Jais AAA Duluth

February 14, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Sure I would, and have before. House next door burned down and I didn’t even like the a***** but I got him and his folks out before that paperboard shack went up like a roman candle. I wasn’t the only one but I done my share, still have burn scars to prove it. Not to mention going to iraq for your oil during desert storm. Do I blubber on about how I got shot at by human filth who want to kill you all? No. Nor do I think I’m entitled to anything but what it taught me. One of those lessons is that stupid people have really big mouths and do the world no good. People like concerned and his freaks need to go chew a suicide pill. If you’re telling me that Daily is a hero you can, too. I’m a drunkard? Need I remind you the only guy around these parts to get arrested for being drunk and crazy lately was dailey. Oh yeh, he said “His finger was tired” that’s because he fired off 16 shots and came around the car to finish that poor guy off. To be honest, he should have killed Dailey with a follow-up shot to the skull and sent the other crooked punks in this department a message.

Did I mention phillips? No. This concerns Duluth PD and people still in it who are just like Dailey- a danger to anything and everyone around them. Do we wait until another one goes ‘the hills have eyes’ psycho and kills someone instead of tries to? We could do a blog then called “Don’t blame duluth police for just a few who shoot people” and then what after this?

The reason all these people hate the police and Daily so much, former cop, is that you guys are usually detestable in almost every way when dealing with the public. You bring it upon yourselves when you suport a system of control and burglary that you aren’t even required to adhere to. You choose the way the public looks at you and frankly I hope you get more. Change…needs to happen, and the evidence suggests it already has.

By Former Cop

February 14, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

AAA You think that it is wrong for us to spare a fellow officer a traffic citation for something so benign as speeding or not wearing a seat belt? How smart do you think that it would be to give a ticket to someone in a neighboring jurisdiction or ones own department knowing that you may have to depend on that person to save your life. But the main reason that we give other cops a break on speeding and seat belts is because most cops get in the habit of speeding because they are racing from call to call everyday and its hard to turn that off. And you may not know this but no one (not the chief of police, the DA or anyone else) can order a Georgia Peace officer to arrest someone for a misdemeanor (DUI is still a misdemeanor in Georgia right?) it is always the officers discretion so quotas are against state and federal law.

Personally I never gave traffic tickets unless it was during an accident or I was mad at my wife (just kidding). I always realized that traffic tickets are one of the main reason citizens did not like the police.

As far as protecting officers that are committing serious crimes, NO WAY! Once a guy commits a serious crime should never be trusted with that power again.

You make everyone wonder about your credibility when you take the side of people who are guilty of DUI. Check points are not illegal and the are certainly not entrapment. I can’t even think of a way to entrap someone into DUI, how do you do that.

If you really served your country in war then that is commendable but sticking up of people who drive drunk is not.

By Concerned Citizen

February 14, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Carrie Nation,

Wow! I don’t exactly share your views, but I am probably your closest ally on this liberal cop-hating blog. I think drunks should be punished, sometimes severely. Maybe we can just make “DUI Concentration Camps” and put them in there for 6 months. Get the trains rolling.

OMG,

I already admitted that I have my immature moments. If you had been following along Johnny-come-lately you would have read this. Go back to watching Oprah you idiot. You also proved my point. You said you have”heard” Duluth PD is corrupt. But no evidence? I heard you were a child molester, does that make it true since I “heard” it?

JakeGG,

Are you with AAA when you have trouble swallowing?

FormerCop,

So if you alomst never wrote tickets what were my taxes paying for? My taxes went towards you driving around for 8 hours not doing parts of your job. If people know cops don’t write tickets then the motoring public turns into chaos. I agree with you on one thing. I can’t figure out how you entrap someone for DUI?

Don,

Your one of those people that stop to ask cops for directions around accidents because you only know one way home. In the mean time traffic is piling up behind you because you felt the need to stop in the middle of the road and ask the cop directing traffic. So traffic laws do not apply to you if you have to ask the cop a question. Next time I have a legal question I will just run red lights until a cop stops me.

AAA,

I didn’t even read your entire post. However stop making up stories to impress your imaginery friends. Tell me, what Marine unit did you serve in Iraq with? Where exactly in Iraq/Saudi/Kuwait were in based? And when did this “fire” at your neighbors house take place?

Where were all of you before the Daily shooting? Why didn’t I hear of this “corruption” before then? It looks like this forum has just given cop-haters a chance to vent. One dude that has mental health issues is not evidence of corruption. I’m still waiting to hear about hard facts and not “I heard Duh….”

We talk about “absolute power corrupts.” I see why so many hate cops. People in general, even law-abiding citizens, don’t like authority figures. They like them less when they exercise the authority on them specifically. It human nature. Unfortunately for everyone cops are given that authority by law. It’s not for the cops pleasure, it’s for our safety. A friend that used to be a cop once told me “I get paid to think for people when they can’t think for themselves.” I think that put it best.

By Concerned Citizen

February 14, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

FormerCop,

As a policeman you are not being paid to be liked by everyone. Your not running for Congress. When you became a cop you should have realized that you would not make everyone happy. If I wanted a friend I would hire a hooker. I would like the cops to be my friends, but it’s not necassary as long as they are doing your job within the law. Who was your partner when you were a cop? Ronald McDonald?

By Jais AAA duluth

February 14, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

Concerned citizen, you need to just stfu here. everyone is against you, bob. Every time you post it’s the same drivel as before: You’re a lame, old, lifeless asshat who loves to hear his dentures knock. Formercop…I’m glad you’re former. you were one of these corrupt suns of b*** I’m speaking about.

Concerned…my first take of you was a dumb soccer mom. You still are a dumb soccer mom, you just have a penis. Seriously, no joke…save yourself the misery of being you and chew a cyanide tab please. Just bite down on that puppy and taste the sweet release. Nobody on this blog, though, cares what the fuhk you think. And apparently all your efforts are wasted because they aren’t stopping anything or changing anyone’s mind on this.

By JakeGG

February 14, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

hahah concerned can I jizz in your eye? Just bling bling right on em?

Seriously don’t even get me started you dont got the shelf life left in you to handle blog-fighting ME you emo dork. Come to the WOW forums sometime, you wouldn’t make it too long.

By Former Cop

February 14, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Actually where I was a cop we had plenty of calls to answer and it wasn’t just code 12’s and signal 41’s, it was crack heads and fights. If the police are so bad then why exactly do they exist? The truth is it doesn’t matter if citizens like the police not because we could not care less for them or they’re BS problems. “Citizens” need to learn some coping methods and stop calling the police to solve their problems. Especially the ones with their spouses, cops have to be close to the top profession as far a divorce is concerned. Maybe next time you are fighting with your wife because she is to fat you should consider calling the fire department I think they may have marital advise worth giving.

By Emmy

February 14, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

OH MY GOD THAT IS VULGAR

By Concerned Citizen

February 14, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this

JakeGG,

You have to be at least 18 to enter this forum. Wow! Someone called me immature? I would love to join your blogs or whatever you do for fun, but I have more pressing issues. Thanks for the invitation but I have a real job son! You were home schooled right?

Emmy,

Your right this is vulgar. When these folks run out of idiot material to spout at everyone they just resort to personal attacks. It’s kinda funny and sad at the same time.

FormerCop,

I somewhat agree with you. I can’t imagine the Gwinnett Cops being any less busy than you where. I am not saying that a policman should spend all 8 hours writing tickets. However, enforcement of traffic laws is part of the job. Some folks just need to get ticketed as an example to keep everyone in line. There has to be a fear of punishment so people won’t break the law. Agree? Leave the codes at home, I don’t understand them. From your last post it sounds like you agree with “Cops get paid to think for people that can’t think for themselves”?

AAA,

Yes, just us alone again. I didn’t catch what Marine unit you were with? Sounds like someone can’t back up their lies? Everytime you take a personal attack on me you prove my point. You and your band of blog idiot brothers have absolutely no evidence of corruption other than “I heard it from a friend.” Being allies with Luther P and JakeGG is not upping your street cred brotha. How about you and you idiot brothas just list specific evidence of corruption other than Daily’s shooting. It cannot start with “I heard.” I would like solid specific evidence of corruption. I’m sure all our blogging friends would want to hear it also. Give me specific info and I will call Danny Porter myself. Let me give you an example of what not to include: “This one time a friend said that he only had four beers and Duluth stopped him for no reason. The cop arrested him for DUI and wouldn’t let him talk to an attorney before taking a breathalyzer. Then the cop wrote him tickets for other things and my friend said he was innocent. Then he went to AAA’s DUI school and AAA made him dress up like a schoolgirl….bla….bla….bla.” You get the picture right? Of course not, you have to have an IQ over 75.

By Concerned Citizen

February 14, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

AAA,

What’s the address of you DUI school so I can send you flowers and candy? I might even deliver them personally!

AJC is going to shut this thing down anytime. So if this is the last time I post I just want to say something. It was fun and I have heard no evidence of corruption. The jury has returned its vedict: Most of you are morons.

This blog could have been good information sharing about ways to improve police services in Duluth. Instead some turned it into the AJC vent/Cop-hating blog. The personal attacks and obvious biasis against law enforcement in general really ruined this blog.

I feel GCPD was underrepresented. I’m sure they have p** some people off in the past? Let’s hear from those upstanding citizens also. We already know that everyone is innocent anytime a cop catches them doing someting they weren’t supposed to be doing. We all know that all the laws suck, especially the laws that Duluth enforces. I could have got better debating out of a middle school class.

By Jais AAA Duluth

February 15, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Concerned, you have all the proof you need. Dailey testified to that you moron. You keep on posting but saying the same thing: I’m an old idiot with no life or friends and I think the police can do no wrong.

As for my address: look it up in the g******* phonebook, cause if you ever show up and identify yourself you will receive a beating. I was in the 423rd Infantry for your info DOOD. You’ve attempted to avoid any REAL contact with me because you know you’re a sad old man who’s gonna wind up in the hospital. No concerned, you aren’t going to talk to me like that face to face because I will floor you.

You need to grow up, son. Grow up or put up and shut up. They’ve already undergone the first stages of investigation, call and ask Belcher yourself you retard. Or beter yet, go and ask the people at langley drive what’s going on. Fact is you know less than Bill Allen does.

By HAHAatldawg

February 15, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Concerned, you seem like you think you own this blog. It’s not over and you are by far the least intellegent person here. Police corruption cannot exist? I’ll redirect you to the Daily story- which this is about. You forgot that on your first line. Blinders over your eyes much?

I see old men like you all the time, and frankly they should administer euthanasia to people who are as stupid as you. The problem with society is people like you are allowed to live.

By DANNY

February 15, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

hahahahaha man concerned citizen go shoot yourself you’re fuhkin DUMB!

By atlantabrother

February 15, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Concerned Citizen lemme know when you go to see Jais. I want to see you face to face too. You talk game shawty lets see how you bring it to the stage. Cracker punk bish.

By Jais AAA Duluth

February 15, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

He isn’t going to visit anyone, he’s going to crawl right back under the bridge his troll arse jumped out from under. Now that he’s p** everyone off he feels better. Folks like this jackass should be thrown into traffic.

By Beaterchevy

February 15, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

I just want to point out that if I fired 16 shots at an officer in the same situation I would be facing attempted murder, attempted manslaughter and numerous other charges INCLUDING the four counts of assault this ex-officer faces.

assault? How about trying to KILL the guy like some chuck norris film? He fired 16 times and came around the car intent on finishing Phillips. The department is corrupt, and that is PAINFULLY obvious. No honest department has men like this.

the guy who posted that poem about shooting drunks…you should be locked up in a psych ward. I’ll bet your parents were alchoholics. I still cannot beleive he used the word ‘pettifogging’. That whole thing he posted was utterly sick. Shoot drunks? Buddy- you need some serious help and a stay in a psycho tank.

AAA- give it a rest. He’s just trying to stir up dissention among good people like most democrat slimeballs do. He is probably someone who stands to lose out big if this police dept. Gets investigated. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he’s a dispatcher there or something.

formercop- I’m sure there are others who share your opinion. On the other hand, I am sure that there are far more who disagree, as suggested by this blog. That’s great you think this guy is a poor victim. I think he’s a madman like anyone else with common sense.

concerned - perhaps you should act your age if you want anyone to take you seriously. You make claims of intellect…so show it. You call AAA a liar but where is your proof that this IS NOT happening? You are just as far from making any kind of point as he is.

By Concerned Citizen

February 15, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

Folks,

One guy nutting out and shooting a cop is not evidence of corruption. It can happen anywhere. Police officers get fired and arrested all the time. They screw up like everyone else does. Because one person flips does not mean a whole career field is corrupt. Does anyone else see this? I thought that was the point of Bill Allen’s article?

AAA,

Yes I know about the big imaginery investigation. Go back to sleep darling. When did I ever give the impression I was a senior citizen?

HAHAatldawg,

I just want to point out again that one person is not a criminal conspiracy. If you people are going to point the finger at the entire DPD then atleast have some evidence. If you folks can remember that far back, Gwinnett Police has had an officer arrested for murder. It was darn near 20 years ago. Does that mean that GCPD was corrupt? I am willing to bet every police department in Gwinnett County has had an officer arrested sometime in the past. Is that evidence of corruption? For those of you that are slow, the answer is no.

atlantabrother,

I don’t understand ebonics. Can someone translate? Why don’t we limit our responses to people who are able to communicate on atleast a 5th grade level? Shouldn’t you be smoking dope, talking bad about your country, and running from the cops right about now? Remember, if confronted by police you always say, “You planted that SH*T on me!”

Beaterchevy,

We have a thing in this country, yes I remember reading it once, and it says “innocent until proven guilty.” The backbone of the criminal justice system is that the state/government has the burden of proving guilt. The accused/defendant does not have to prove he is not guilty in theory. AAA is making the accusations and has indicted the entire Duluth Police for corruption. Now he has the burden of proof. I have simply pointed out that one person’s actions is not evidence of department wide corruption. I have asked numerous times for hard facts or evidence that can be backed up. It should not be my responsibility to prove that AAA is a liar. It should be his to prove he is telling the truth. Danny Porter cannot charge you with a crime unless he has evidence. If I tell Danny Porter that Beaterchevy likes to have sex with dead animals should Beaterchevy have to prove he does not? No, burden of prove rests with the accuser. The accuser in this case is AAA and his random band of merry idiots. All I have heard is stories that start with “I heard” and the Daily incident. Obviously in between the vicious personal attacks. But the personal attacks only come out when I ask for hard evidence. They are obviously trying to change the subject.

By Jais AAA Duluth

February 15, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

You don’t have any point dumbass. Go home, nobody here likes you.

By Mac

February 15, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

i’d like to see some real evidence myself……

By JakeGG

February 15, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

lol seriously go home concerned critizen your on rock.

By Mac

February 15, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

If they are so corrupt, then let’s prove it, get the dept straightened out, etc. etc.. & not just blowing smoke. If you have this evidence, then what’s stopping you?? If the WHOLE dept is corrupt & it’s your information that helped prove guilt, then cudos to you, but like I have said before, there are bad seeds in all walks of life, doesn’t mean all of society is a bad……if you are a marine like you say you are, then those threats you are spewing is pretty hilarious. Did the Iraqs just laugh at you????

By fable

February 15, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

a winner never quits and a quitter never wins. But those who never quit AND never win are idiots. Concerned citizen, this goes out to you.

By Jais AAA Duluth

February 15, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Look mac, it wasn’t ONLY me calling the fbi about the recent problems with this town, it was ALOT of people including the mayor and other city officials. Other cops, even. I think you two are the biggest fools ever, and I’m way past the point of making you two realize it or not. Have you called their chief or talked to the fbi or department of homeland security yet to verify this? or are you just still running your flap-trap money makers as you have with every other post?

Im laughing at some of the responses you’ve kicked up in this blog and basically still think whatver I did about you two. You are the vast minority here. In this town and otherwise. Go ahead and keep on yucking it up, son…because you are the weakest link. Goodbye.

Imaginary? dude, everything you’ve said until this point is a cop asslicking fest. There is all the proof you need of anything right here or in the county records. Go fish them up yourself, dikweed.

the only thing imaginary I see around here is the world you’re living in, slim. And your fighting ability. I’ll gander that black guy you just spat racism against up there would drop you in a heartbeat. I’m sure most would.

again, go the fuhk on home you idiot. everyone’s against you.

By Mac

February 15, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

your apparently doing a FANTASTIC job at your dui school, your all over this blog (i’m in very few). No wonder Dultuh has so many Dui’s, b/c there teacher can’t freakin stay off the internet long enough to rehabilitate the drunks of Duluth…. Can’t back up your job, or this blog…..Who’s the joke??????

By Jais AAA Duluth

February 15, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

Who’s the joke? You are dude. I am eating sushi right now. Helps to have a nice laptop, huh?! I love it. I’m not AT work, and nobody said I was rehabilitating anyone. The course is a joke, it prevents nothing.

You get some that are alcoholics and some who are framed and yadda yadda. That IS the way of things, no amount of your denial is going to change the fact. Luckily, this whole thing with dailey appears JUST IN TIME and low & behold- the DPD is indeed adjusting itself accordingly. Concerned…thanks for helping accomplish this. You whining and moaning and repulsive outlook on life, combined with the fact you have nothing better to do only helped draw more eyes to the DPD and get something done. They’ve been keeping it on the download

By atlantabrother

February 15, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

You wanna meet up concerned? I’ll show you concerned. Talking like you do I am concerned you will wind up in a I.C.U. cracker.

By Jais AAA Duluth

February 15, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

just another example of concerned and his retard brand of BS. Don’t even sweat it dude, he knows we can mop the floor with him. Concerned and his a*-buddy Mac there are just silly women.

By Concerned Citizen

February 15, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

Atlantabrother,

Shouldn’t you be reporting to your parole officer right now? I actually understood your last post somewhat. You must have spent the last few hours with the English dictionary. Keep up the good work brotha.

Mac,

It’s the same old thing. We ask for proof and AAA just comes back with personal insults. He points to secret FBI investigations and evidence that everyone knows about, but he will not share it on this blog.

Fable,

Who kicked your water dish you freaking mutt?

AAA,

Mac and I might be the minority on this blog, but it doesn’t mean we are the minority in real life. If I posted an anti-Hillary website who would be the minority? Yes, all those who actually like Hillary. So don’t for one minute try to pass off your sick imagination as the popular decision.

You talk about “county records.” Atleast point me in the correct direction. You’re being just general enough to score points with the liberal morons, but not specific enough to actually show any proof. This junk might wow your drunken Korean girlfriend, but try to come up a few levels and explain it to adults.

REALLY, WE HAVE TIME SO DISCUSS SOME OF THESE “COUNTY RECORDS.” I’M SURE EVEN YOUR IDIOT SUPPORTERS WANT TO HEAR ALL THE BAD STORIES.

To All,

If you don’t know about the Korean girlfriend thing just leave it alone. It goes way back for all you Johnny-come-latelys. Please continue with the personal attacks. However, I’m still waiting for the evidence of corruption.

By Concerned Citizen

February 15, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

If you think I am pro-Duluth PD then take a look at the very first post on this blog. Yes, it’s from me and I am offering suggestions about Duluth PD. I am also asking some key questions that should be asked to the Chief and Mayor. However, most of you have turned it into a “I hate the cops” blog. There may be some problems with Duluth PD, but not to the level that AAA is accusing. They don’t need a FBI investigation based on what I have seen. However, a change in leadership might be warranted to take the department in a different direction.

I would like BILL ALLEN to weigh in on this debate. He wrote the article that started this and I would like to hear from him. Maybe our friends in the news can shine some light on this. I find it hard to beleive there is known police corruption and folks like Randy Travis and Mark Winne are not hot on the story. I forgot AAA has the majic direct phone to the FBI and GBI.

By Jais AAA Duluth

February 16, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Again, all you can do is drivel senselessly you snide arrogant imbecile. Everyone hates you. Go the hell on home, punk. You need to watch your lip.

By fable

February 16, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

No, Concerned Citizen, you are the minority out in the world as well.

By Paul Schaefer

February 16, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Wow, concerned citizen

you are a nasty human being. I agree with them just because you show nothing but how ugly you really are.

By Concerned Citizen

February 16, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

I have heard no evidence supported by any facts. Not even close.

Paul,

Yes, I know. I am a very mean person. Still doesn’t change the facts though. How about you read some of AAA’s previous posts. He is right up there with me. Hang on, I don’t remember asking for your opinion anyway.

AAA and little miss fable,

No AAA, not everyone thinks everything that bad happens is a police conspiracy. Not everyone thinks we should just let drunks drive down the road until they crash. Further, I have heard no evidence other than “I heard” crap. Please don’t respond with actual facts. The personal attacks are much more entertaining. If you call asking for evidence before we make baseless accusations “drivel” then I guess I am driveling.

I am assuming that all the reasonable folks have abandoned this blog long ago. So to AAA, Luther P, Atlbrother, and all the other bloggers that report to probation officers this is my last post. I have heard no evidence and I am tired. You criminals and future criminals have this blog to yourself now.

Here let me start you off: Man, Duluth PD suxs shawty! They arrested my intern Korean girlfriend because she was driving drunk. I think the cops should only arrest drunks that actually kill someone. Most of these drunks are just minding their own business. I’m calling the FBI on my majic telephone.

Sorry, I’m not up to speed on my ebonics so some of yous guys won’t understand.

Good night and good luck. (Especially you AAA with your secret FBI investigation).

By sam

February 16, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

You are kidding right the Duluth Police departmen are the most corrupt police department in the histroy of the state they all should be fired and county should just patrol duluth they arrested a one armed freind of mine and though he deserved to arrested they had no right to harras him and make fun of the fact that he only has one arm all day they just sit there and pull people over for no reason and hand out stupid tickets then they call themselves real cops they are not real cops they are a disgrace to the entire idea of a police force they think because they have a gun and a badge that they are above the law i hope they lock up this guy for life and send a statement to the rest of that police force

By sam

February 16, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this

oh and not to mention dont get pulled over in duluth because you will get a ridiculosly high priced ticket because the city likes to buy them new toys why do they have jet ski’s why do they have swat vans the duluth police force is similar in ways to another police force known as the SS

By Paul Schaefer

February 16, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

Glad to see the public is outweighing the code of silence. Glad this cop Daily is off the streets. Glad DPD is in the public eye. +1 to this.

By gwinnetian

February 18, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

I am with the guy who suggested we disband our local pd and have Gwinnet cover this area. They are far more honest, have far less ‘occurences’ of bad officers and are far more professional. DPD and other ‘shotgun shack’ police departments should probably do the same, and the money be reinvested with a police force who can show some professionalism and integrity. This is not saying all Duluth cops are bad apples. Just most of them.

By jeff

February 18, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Local police departments in Gwinnett County don’t care anymore. Those guys are over worked, underpaid, and dealing with a growing population that keeps expanding. Let Gwinnett County PD organize these local offices and get them into this century. Can’t blame these guys for getting complacent and focusing only on stopping people for speeding instead of patrolling neighborhoods. Most of these locals don’t file incident reports on small misdemeanors which are important in establishing history, witnesses, potential suspects in future crimes. It isn’t far fetched to think that by failing to fill out a basic incident report, it emboldens the small time petty trespasser to move on to breaking and entering. Just my observation.

By citizen

February 18, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

“Concerned” you are one of the dumbest ‘smart’ people I know. Let’s start with the fact that people who sit around bragging about their IQ are normally nerds and have always been nerds. Ironically police officers are people who were nerds in school, hence why they sought the job as the ‘authority.’ So, it is clear why “concerned” takes up for the Police.

On another note, “concerned” you idiot, you want evidence to research, and you discredit anyone who can not provide it. As a Civil Attorney I can tell you first hand that if anyone has’ hard’ evidence the investigation would already be underway. But, it is all of this speculation and buzz in the community that often prompts an investigation to turn up the evidence that you so desire. Your ignorant comment earlier about ‘if this is all true why are we just now hearing it?’ Well A**hole its not new, this has been the talk for many years, even if it was new it has to begin somewhere.

So in conclusion, get off your nerd rear end, quit playing HALO all day, and get a job that allows your exercise your great IQ, one that does not allow you to cruise the blogs all day and argue through a keyboard. DORK

By Concerned Citizen

February 18, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

Citizen (not very original),

Since you are a Civil Attorney I will type slow for you. To prosecute anyone for “corruption” or any crime to that comes from it, we need “proof beyond a reasonable doubt.” Which in legal terms is about 95% certainty right? In Civil cases it is about 51%. Stop thinking in civil terms. You folks are alleging criminal acts against DPD. Back it up with at least 75% which is what is required for Probable Cause. “I heard” and “it has been known for a long time” is not even close to 51% let alone 75%. Police officers strictly enforcing traffic laws is not proof of corruption. The “buzz in the community” is not proof or evidence either. Just because one is smart does not make them a nerd. I have heard the laywers were the folks who couldn’t cut it in Medical School? No I am taking up for the police because you folks are making baseless accusations based on phantom evidence. Someone has to speak up and point this fact out. DPD does have a bad reputation. From what I can tell it is because they do enforce traffic laws strictly. Do I like this? No. Does this amount to widespread corruption? No. Go back to chasing ambulances!

Gwinnetian and Jeff,

I would not be cold to your consolidation of police services. However, how would this affect response times from police? I would have to guess that Gwinnett PD is stretched just as thin. Plus, Mayors and City Councils would not want to give up their hold on the local police force. Good ideas though. It’s better than the “I heard” arguements.

Sam,

The SS? Now come on son. You are comparing American Police with a group that held a large hand in mass executions based on race. You had a good point about Jet ski’s, but you ruin it with the obvious cop-bashing that this blog has turned into. You compare DPD to the SS. But this blog is wanting to Convict a whole police force on rumor and “buzz.” Lets just have a public show trial. Who are the real facist? Lets see some due process and evidence against the accused before we send them to the gas chambers.

Hint to everyone,

You will sound a lot more convincing if you make valid points supported by evidence or proof. The “I hate the cops” statements make you sound like you have bone to pick.

By David Allen

February 19, 2008 12:58 AM | Link to this

That makes a lot of sense Concerned, seeing that the medical profession has a completly different undergraduate program than the law profession.

Now its time for you to do some research, ambulance chasers only comprise a small percentage of the civil lawyers in the field. But, it is common knowledge that those who can not pick a path and feel they can not succeed without given direction choose the military because everything is chosen for them and you think that it gets you automatic credibility and respect.
Real heros are drafted!

AAA your also a moron.

What is most concerning is that a handleful of you have nothing to do all day but argue on a blog.

By Concerned Citizen

February 19, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

David Allen,

Yeah real hero’s! Wait until Uncle Sam makes you join and then fight. Sorry if I don’t give all the draftees a red cape.

Nothing was chosen for me in the military. It was my choice to go to West Point. It was my choice to return to Vietnam for a 2nd and 3rd time. It was my choice to stay in as long as I did. I could have been out after 8 years, but I CHOSE to stay. You tell all the mothers that I have had to write letters to that their sons were losers who can’t succeed in life. They died for their Country, what have you done for it other than waste its oxygen?

I earned the right to do nothing all day but argue on this blog.

At some time, all civil lawyers have been ambulance chasers even if they do not admit it. Once an ambulance chaser, always an ambulance chaser.

Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it darling!

By Former Cop

February 19, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

AAA

First of all there is a HUGE difference between going into the burning house of your neighbor and going into a domestic situation of strangers. The last time I checked fire was not vindictive and would not chase after you to try to kill you, a person will. And if your neighbors house were on fire most able bodied men (or in your case women) would try to help. I think what we really need is a blog about corrupt DUI school employees. See this is the thing, the people you work with are convicted criminals, they are not your colleagues don’t sympathize with them or become friends with them it undermines your ability to do your job.

Citizen

What’s wrong with being a nerd? I am proud to be a nerd, and I truly enjoyed screwing up the curve in freshman chemistry and sending the hillbillies running to their academic advisors to change their majors to history or communication or whatever AAA has his associate of arts in. LOL. I have never heard anyone say that cops are nerds but maybe you are right, I do have a BS in chemical engineering.

Beaterchevy

Actually if you attack someone in Georgia and they live the only charges available are assault OR battery. They are the Georgia equivalent of attempted murder and that is what you would be charged with. And I think Dailey is facing 3 agg. assault and 1 agg. assault on a law enforcement officer (which is apparently more serious, as it should be!)

Everyone

Now you guys need to come to some sort of consensus about whether the police should write a lot of tickets or not. I said that I rarely wrote tickets and you said that I was not doing my job (even though the reason I didn’t write tickets was because I had calls to service that I had to answer). I wonder how many of you realize that police officers do not get a break for lunch and that they have to eat when they have downtime, no downtime = no food. There is something about tickets that are written in Georgia that I am sure most of you do not know and I am only going to tell you because it will probably p** you off. Every time a ticket is written in Georgia a percentage of that money is put into the Georgia Peace officers retirement fund. So traffic units could actually be called, “Police Retirement Funding Units”. It’s real name is the Police Officers’ Annuity and Benefit Fund of Georgia, google it and you will find that it’s assets total about 485 million dollars. So thanks to all of you speeders and drunks for funding the police retirement fund! So unbuckle that seat belt and lay that hammer down cause I have a bunch of friends depending on that money so that they can retire early. On their behalf I thank you in advance.

Concerned Citizen,

I’m not sure why all of these idiots have a problem with you. Maybe I have missed the posts that have made them hate you or maybe logic is too painful for the simple minds of these country bumpkins. Personally with your ability to anger regular citizens maybe you should consider a career in law enforcement!

David Allen

You can go to medical school or law school regardless of you undergraduate major.

Everyone Else

If for some reason I failed to respond to anyone’s ignorant comments or address a specific personal problem you have, here is a suggestion: first ask Concerned to help you with your problem. If for some reason he cannot help you or your don’t understand some of the big words he uses then ask me specifically and I will use small words that you will understand to help you cope.

By Former Cop

February 19, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

BTW I meant to tell you this cop joke that I heard:

What is the difference between a cop car and a porcupine? A porcupine has the pricks on the outside.

By Mac

February 20, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

I like it Former Cop!!!! Keep up the good work on straightening out some of these A**holes on this blog. They def needed definitions/clarifications from a Cops point of view (or former) who cares!!!!

By Jais AAA Duluth

February 20, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

formercop,you are just as big an idiot as concerned citizen. everyone hates you both and nobody here cares to hear your senseless drivel about how cops do no wrong. you both are as bind as you are undereducated.

By copper

February 20, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

formercop- thereason all of us have a problem with concerned citizen is because he is an outspoken fool who doesn’t even understand what he’s talking about. Defending the actions of corrupt police practices and attacking anyone who does not agree with his narrow views is the reason. He is a god dam idiot, and you are too.

By Paul Schaffer

February 20, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Wow concerned citizen, I thought this was your last post. Obsessed much?

I was just starting to think you weren’t just some troll. Know you’ve removed all doubt. Good thing all you are doing is strengthening their argument.

By jtorow

February 20, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

If it had been one bad Duluth officer I would let it pass; however, as a former resident of the city of Duluth, I have witnessed again and again the abuse of power, perpatrated by these over privaleged few. Forget the lavish budget, which allows them to have, brand new top of the line cars, the two trucks, the horses, the motorcycles, and the bikes. Lets focus on, officers who seeing there is a back up in traffic, decide without turning their lights on and for no obvious reason, to drive down the oppposite lane, causing people to have to veer out of their way as they go the wrong way down the street. Officers who decide to turn their lights on to speed, only to pull into a restaurant, and stop for lunch. Officers who go to the wrong house and harrass a subject even after they have established they are at the wrong residence. Duluth, has fostered an organization that feels that they are above the law they are sworn to uphold, and it starts with the Chief of police. Let’s do what they U.S. Army didn’t do, and hold the officers at the top responsible for a change, and get some one in that spot who will uphold a standard for himself, and his officers.

By Brad

February 21, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Paul, You hit the nail on the head.

Concerned, You are in here calling everyone an idiot becasue they do not see things your way. This is a forum, a forum often operates on opinion, I am not sure if you know it or not, the majority of conversation is fueled by opinion. Only an Autistic person repeats facts over and over witout any opinion. You are a social retard.

By Jester

February 21, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

I don’t see the reason for all the fuss. A cop lost it. We all do. I am thankful that no one was killed. That would have been tragic. At the same time, I have found that by obeying the law, I have no contact with police officers. Good or bad. And by the way, if a cop is directing traffic, and you decide that since he is there, you can just break traffic laws, you are the epitome of a typical Atlanta driver.

By gwinnetian

February 21, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

jtorrow, I see eye to eye with you. Randall Belcher needs a new job somewhere way outside these city limits. I’ve attempted to reach him and ask about this numerous dozens of times, I’ve never spoken to him directly or received a FOLLOW UP TO ANY MESSAGE LEFT. Totally crazy.

Funny story: The other day I’m driving past the police station and see this “THING” in their parking lot. I look closer. It APPEARED to be a trailer or platform of some form with what APPEARED to be a disembodied truck cab welded to the top of it with no doors or interior. Anyone know what this thing is/does/is for? I was thinking maybe just a trailer for hauling a bass boat or something? I’ve got nothin.