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Illegal immigrants at the polls

On Tuesday, the Senate passed a bill that would requires voters to show proof of U.S. citizenship in order to register to vote.

Senate Bill 86, sponsored by Sen. Cecil Staton (R-Macon) now goes to the house.

Mr. Staton has said he wants to make sure non-citizens don’t vote, and that’s fine. But one argument used by supporters of the proof-of-citizenship bill has never sold with me. It’s this notion that illegal immigrants are taking part in U.S. elections.

The last thing any illegal immigrant wants to do is bring attention to himself. After all, he is in the country illegally. They tend to live in the shadows of society, relatively low-key. So the likelihood that Jose is hankering to cast a vote in a national or local election rings shallow. He probably couldn't care less.

What do you think?

Are illegal immigrants taking part in elections?

Is voting by non-citizens a problem in Georgia?

Or a nonexistent one?

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By Bubba

March 5, 2009 2:09 PM | Link to this

If government simply enforced our existing laws, this question wouldn’t be an issue at all.

By Mark

March 5, 2009 2:11 PM | Link to this

There is so much worry about illegal immigrants. Just turn on the nightly news. I will ask you, what kind of people do you see doing the majority of the crime? Let’s take care of THAT problem first. At least illegals are trying to work for a living.

By Ajamu

March 5, 2009 2:55 PM | Link to this

Mark: Based on what the Gwinnett County Detention Center says, the nightly news is only showing who they want you to see, so that you will think you’re safe around the ones you don’t see on the news. Latino Drug gangs have infiltrated every job your illegals are working and there is more cocaine, meth, marijuana and exctasy in Gwinnett than you can possibly imagine, now. ALL of the jobs the illegals are doing were filled by citizens or legal immigrants in the past. Americans don’t need illegals to do anything for us anymore except, go home, we’ll work our own jobs!!!

By LT5000

March 5, 2009 7:22 PM | Link to this

As usual Blubbering Badie’ IQ is as low as his cholesterol is high.

If illegal immigrants weren’t trying to draw attention to themselves, they wouldn’t drive drunk and tat themselves with Mexican gang tattoos.

From the ajc itself.

*In Texas, Florida, Maryland, California and even in Georgia, there is evidence that illegal aliens may have voted in past elections. The discovery has been made when clerks of court in some Georgia counties have received correspondence from potential jurors declining to serve on juries because they were not citizens. *

*In 2005 in one federal district court alone, the U.S. General Accounting Office found that up to 3 percent of the 30,000 people summoned for jury duty were not citizens, according to the Heritage Foundation. *

Maybe even Blubbering Badie can’t stand to read the rag known as the AJC.

LT5000

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/stories/2008/07/15/votinged.html

By Bruce Wilcox

March 5, 2009 8:26 PM | Link to this

Just more preaching to the choir, a Jim Crow Poll Tax and nothing more. The only abuse of the system is with the absentee ballots, no photo i.d. there.

The Bill, besides wasting tax dollars and time, is designed to arouse the townfolk to grab thier torchs and pitchfolks to chase ghosts.

But the worse part is yet to come, the one that wants, wait, plans on being the next Governor, our dear Sec. of State just seems like she can’t Handel the job.

By LT5000

March 5, 2009 8:59 PM | Link to this

Brucie “Don’t Do Anything, It’s Useless, Curl Up in a Ball and Suck Your Thumb” Wilcox is back.

Then he equates not letting Illegals vote to being a Jim Crow Poll tax is absolutely laughable.

Brucie is the one person in the world that can make Badie look smart.

LT5000

LT5000

By Chris Broe

March 5, 2009 9:00 PM | Link to this

I saw an illegal alien vote once by using a Frito ID. It totally fooled the volunteers, man. Clinton was elected that year. And now Lewinski is still a staple in all his dreams. I went to the Lewinski Facebook and Clinton is all over the wall……..ew.

Obama had a great bipartisan moment today about Healthcare. He coughed vigorously and then reflected that it was good they were meeting about Healthcare. It got a bipartisan laugh.

America had a great day, today. Michelle O was in it. I wonder if Lloyds of London insured her legs.

By nana

March 6, 2009 9:48 AM | Link to this

Not sure I agree with the premise they don’t want to draw attention to themselves. Why not draw attention, nothing happens. They protest openly with signs in Spanish, they drive constantly with no driver’s license (just check scan gwinnett to see how many are arrested for that offense), they have no respect for our laws. I’m not sure they’re really trying to vote though. Bottom line is let’s enforce laws on the books already, not create new ones that don’t amount to anything.

By Mark

March 6, 2009 10:13 AM | Link to this

Deport ALL illegal mexicans now!!!

By Biker Chick

March 6, 2009 11:56 AM | Link to this

*”In Texas, Florida, Maryland, California and even in Georgia, there is evidence that illegal aliens may have voted in past elections. The discovery has been made when clerks of court in some Georgia counties have received correspondence from potential jurors declining to serve on juries because they were not citizens.”

LT, There’s only one small problem with assuming this means that illegals are voting - - - As of July 1, 2000, jury pools are no longer made up of only registered voters. In order to comply with laws stating that jury pools had to be reflective of the demographics of the community, court jury commissioners began using Driver’s License rolls and Census Bureau mailing lists to select potential jurors.

So, the fact that an illegal immigrant was selected for a jury call doesn’t mean they were registered to vote. It means they may have had a fraudulently obtained driver’s license (as we have seen was common practice in the Norcross DMV in the past) or they may have simply been added to a U.S. Census information form.

While it’s possible that illegal immigrants vote, I find it highly unlikely that they vote in numbers high enough to influence elections. Of course, the best way to make that influence neglible would be if more than 10% to 20% of American citizens would actually get off their duffs and go to the polls on local election days, but we all know that’s not going to happen.

By Oh Yeah?

March 6, 2009 1:42 PM | Link to this

Just the Mexicans Mark? Is it their color that bothers you?

Got afternoon LT5000! Slithered out from under your rock to spread your nativist slime I see. Don’t you have a klan rally to attend? A cross to burn?

By Zeke

March 6, 2009 1:59 PM | Link to this

The Heritage Foundation LT5000? Gimme a break. You might as well be getting your “facts” (LMAO!) from VDARE.com.

By Mark

March 6, 2009 4:43 PM | Link to this

Oh Yeah?

Yes, just the mexicans for now. They are slimey leeches who happen to be felons. It’s not their color that bothers me as much as the odor. Nasty breed of animal.

By Michael H. Smith

March 6, 2009 8:07 PM | Link to this

Says Badie: The last thing any illegal immigrant wants to do is bring attention to himself. After all, he is in the country illegally. They tend to live in the shadows of society, relatively low-key. So the likelihood that Jose is hankering to cast a vote in a national or local election rings shallow. He probably couldn’t care less.

First answer to question number one: They don’t live in any shadows, stop listening to Teddy Kennedy Mr. Badie. Illegal aliens walk around illegally in broad daylight, work illegally in broad daylight and most will tell you openly they are illegally in this country when asked; as though it is some kind of honorable thing they are doing by breaking the laws and committing “their many crimes”.

Are illegal immigrants taking part in elections?

It’s very possible.

Is voting by non-citizens a problem in Georgia?

Absolutely! Anytime, anywhere, the ballot box is unsecured it is a problem. As it now stands in Georgia there is a problem. When all anyone has to do, is to say or sign to say, I am a U.S. Citizen when registering to vote without any further proof that confirms a person is in fact a U.S. Citizen that is an wide open invitation to voter fraud.

Or a nonexistent one[problem]?

I seriously doubt the problem is non-existent and even if only one non-citizen votes, that one non-citizen illegal fraudulent vote negates a legally cast ballot from a lawful law abiding U.S. Citizen. The right to vote is one of only a few rights exclusively reserved to U.S. Citizens and though I personally feel many more rights should only be enjoyed exclusively by U.S. Citizens in this country, it is the right to vote above all other citizen rights that must by all means be protected and secured with extreme measures.

Footnote to the Anti-American Mexican loyalist crowd: Dizzy Dean once said, “It ain’t braggin’ if you can do it.”

With around 60% of all the illegal aliens in this country being of a Mexican nationality then is it safe to say, “They ain’t braggin’!”

So don’t blame we loyal Americans for not bragging on them either. We are simply awarding them credit for what they have done.

By Mike

March 15, 2009 11:07 AM | Link to this

To the original questions: Are illegal immigrants taking part in elections? Is voting by non-citizens a problem in Georgia?

Probably a little bit, but I don’t think it’s a statistically significant portion and I don’t think it’s a current problem. But I think a better question is: Could this be a significant problem in the (near) future?

I think it could. And while this is new legislation, its not changing rules as much as it’s verifying that the existing rules are being followed. Today, we have Sonny in the Governor’s office. I would want this change made before Pedro runs for that same seat. Not because I care what race is in the Governor’s seat, but because I wouldn’t want to see a fight break out about the election’s validity if he won. How much money did the “chad” problem cost Florida again?

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