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As I honor Obama, King, I’ll miss queen

It’s hard to imagine how elated Robbie Susan Moore would be about the historical significance of the coming days.

On Monday, the nation observes the 2009 Martin Luther King Jr. holiday. A day later, President-elect Barack Obama’s swearing-in ceremony plays to a worldwide stage. Gwinnett, like Atlanta and surrounding municipalities, will host numerous events to honor the slain civil rights leader. If she were alive, Moore would have been in the thick of the action in Gwinnett, where she lived. Actually, she would have been running things — the holiday parade that winds from the courthouse to Central Gwinnett High; the program that succeeds the march will take place there.

If it weren’t for Moore, there might not be a Gwinnett King Day observance. As president of the United Ebony Society of Gwinnett County Inc., organizing events surrounding the holiday was her baby, her mission, though she got by with a little help from friends.

If it weren’t for Moore, there would still be municipalities in Gwinnett that open City Hall on this national holiday. She, methodically and gracefully, led the holdout towns of Duluth, Norcross, Lawrenceville, Snellville, Grayson and Lilburn into the 21st century. She did so free of bitterness, resentment, threats.

And for the first time in 2007, all 14 city governments in Gwinnett were closed to recognize the slain leader. That was no small feat. Yet Moore, always diplomatic, said otherwise in a March 2008 interview with The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

“It’s been easy for me to do the things that I’ve done in Gwinnett,” she said. “That’s amazing, but it’s the truth.”

Lois Solomon, the Ebony Society’s secretary, provided context.

“She would get discouraged sometimes, but she didn’t have a spirit that stopped, regardless of the obstacles that got in her way,” she told me. “She had a lot of strong people around her, and in turn, she would be that encouraging factor. Robbie knew a lot of these politicians when they were wannabes, and she knew a lot of their parents, so that gave her an inside track. She had an insight with a lot of the movers and shakers, and she had a pleasing, non-threatening type of personality.”

I once had a reader e-mail me to say that he would never attend any event hosted by a group with ebony in the name. That in itself, he said, reeked of divisiveness, separation. Perhaps. Then again, he didn’t know Moore, a founding member of the 25-year-old group and its president until her death last year. She had love for everybody.

That’s why, if she were alive, my phone would have rung weeks ago. “We’re getting ready,” she’d say, and immediately I’d know what she meant: Gwinnett King Day Celebration 2009.

In recent years, Moore had begun truly emphasizing that folk of every hue and socioeconomic stripe were invited to partake in the county observance. One year, she e-mailed invitations to more than 50 predominantly white churches — twice.

“With her spirit — and truly she was a religious woman — she looked for justice and equality and believed that everybody is the same,” Solomon said. “That’s where her drive came from — her strong relationship with God and the beliefs that her parents instilled in her.”

Next week, when I take in events up close and watch them unfold on TV, I’ll think about Moore, and exult enough for the both of us.

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By Mark

January 17, 2009 11:30 AM | Link to this

www.martinlutherking.org

This “man” did nothing but lie and cheat. read it and weep. He was your typical big mouthed black.

MY dream came true….

By nana

January 17, 2009 11:51 AM | Link to this

Mark you are such an insignificant piece of you know what.

By Mark

January 17, 2009 11:56 AM | Link to this

nana

Go to the site, and read facts about the “man”. He cheated on his wife, and even plagerized his college thesis. He accomplished NOTHING re: race relations. He was a racist, worse than I…

By Mark

January 17, 2009 12:21 PM | Link to this

“Well friends, he is not a legitimate reverend, he is not a bona fide PhD, and his name isn’t really “Martin Luther King, Jr.” What’s left? Just a sexual degenerate, an America-hating Communist, and a criminal betrayer of even the interests of his own people.”

Quoted from above mentioned site…….

By "Charles", The Original

January 17, 2009 1:20 PM | Link to this

The world has taught too many people that Jesus’ last name is Christ; and the nations of the world celebrate his birthday on the 25th of December. The world, the rich, wealthy, elitist, famous, powerful, now uses the name of Jesus to their benefit thereby rendering Christianity almost impotent to the poor and needy. And as we speak, most African Americans will say with a straight face that Christ is Jesus’ last name. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a Christian and I love Jesus too. But please give me the real, authentic, Jesus or no Jesus at all.

It is accurately recorded in no uncertain terms that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. knew that his movement was in serious trouble. To rescue it from a cunning world, he decided to call attention to the plight of the poor in a sustained effort. There would be no more one day marches. He thought that sustaining his efforts would prevent the movement from being co-opted by the world, the rich, wealthy, famous, powerful, the Luciferians. Dr King undoubtedly understood that we are in a war against each other, and if he failed in his efforts, his name would become another vehicle used by the world to exploit the poor and needy. So he steadfastly began preparation for a poor peoples’ campaign, a march on Washington. But before the march on Washington, a march on Memphis would take place to demonstrate the plight of striking sanitation workers. It was critical for his actions to state emphatically to the world and perpetuity that Martin Luther King Jr. works primarily in the interest of the poor and needy; not in the interest of the elitist, wealthy, famous, rich, powerful, and connivers of the world.

As the story goes, Martin Luther King Jr. was murdered in Memphis Tennessee on 4 April, 1968… Just as Jews and Romans conspired to Murder Jesus the Christ, it was integrationist black people assisted by white people that prevented Martin Luther King Jr. from rescuing his movement; and today as we speak, his name and holiday is used to exploit the poor. And that should be self evident. Look at the condition of the poor. There are alarming crime rates, abortion, poverty, imprisonment, and illiteracy. The world and their hired pundits, primarily black integrationist via radio, television, education institutions, in the name of Martin Luther King Jr., ignore the conditions of the poor, but on the other hand, attributes the successes of the rich, elitist, wealthy, famous, and powerful, to the achievements of Martin Luther King Jr. And they honor the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday to boot.

Martin Luther King Jr., 4 December 1967. …We have now begun preparations for the Washington campaign. Our staff soon will be taking new assignments to organize people to go to Washington from ten key cities and five rural areas. This will be no mere one-day march in Washington but a trek to the nation’s capital by suffering and outraged citizens who will go to stay until some definite and positive action is taken to provide jobs and income for the poor. We are sending [tape interrupted][…] America is at a crossroads of history and it is critically important for us as a nation and a society to choose a new path and move upon it with resolution and courage. It is impossible to underestimate the crisis we face in America. The stability of a civilization, the potential of free government, and the simple honor of men are at stake. Those who serve in the human rights movement, including our Southern Christian Leadership Conference, are keenly aware of the increasing bitterness and despair and frustration that threaten the worst chaos, hatred, and violence any nation has ever encountered. In a sense, we are already at war with and among ourselves. Affluent Americans are locked in the suburbs of physical comfort and mental insecurity. Poor Americans are locked inside ghettos of material privation and spiritual debilitation. And all of us can almost feel the presence of a kind of social insanity which could lead to national ruin. The true responsibility for the existence of these deplorable conditions lies ultimately with the larger society and much of the immediate responsibility for removing the injustices can be laid directly at the door of the federal government…

I didn’t have the pleasure of meeting Robbie Susan Moore. But my hope is that she didn’t think that Jesus’ last name is Christ.

By BW

January 17, 2009 2:56 PM | Link to this

Very interesting comments “Charles”, The Original, it puts the movement and the man into a clear and informrd perspective.

On Monday and Tuesday our nations flag will fly a little higher.

Ms. Moore certainly had her work cut out for her, I believe that many of these hold out cities just began to honor the holiday in the past few years, quite an embarrassment. Sad that so many in the movement, both Black and White, will not be around to rejoice in these coming historic days.

Mark a suggestion, if you’re a skin-head or a klaner wear your arm band or sheet and attend a few of the events planned and really let all know how you really feel. But knowing people like you, you will hide behind your computer screen sheeting in your pants.

By Kesha

January 17, 2009 3:14 PM | Link to this

I did have the pleasure of knowing Mrs. Susan Moore and I know that she was dedicated to the cause for all people to come together whether it be for MLK holiday or any event. She is just not known for this work alone she is also known for her persistent to ensure that children in her community was doing the right thing and she was always an inspiration for me. I grew up in the same neighborhood that she lived in and I inspire to make a difference in many lives as she did in her talk and actions. I will not comment on the other topics discussed in these posts because this was meant to honor a remarkable human and I will not allow your negative comments to dishoner or discredit her in anyway. If you did not have the pleasure of knowing her then you missed out. Rest In Peace Mrs. Susie and I know you are looking down smiling saying a new day is finally upon us. God Bless President Elect Barack Obama and family and the United States of America!!!

By "Charles", The Original

January 17, 2009 3:49 PM | Link to this

Quite the contrary BW, Martin Luther King Jr and his legacy has been co-opted by conniving black and white integrationist. Post Martin Luther King Jr era, integrationist black and white people work against the interest of the poor in the name of Martin Luther King Jr. Those in the movement that’s no longer with us would rejoice in the coming so-called historic days only if they thought that Jesus’ last name is Christ.

The Presidency of Barack Obama will demonstrate that consummate integrationist black people actually despise poor black people. And they knowingly and unknowingly teach others accordingly via radio, television, and schools. That’s why they are integrationist. Their nature is skewed against their own people. The only thing they have in common with members of their own group is skin color.

The same is true for integrationist white people. They hate the average white person. And they knowingly and unknowingly teach others accordingly via radio, television, and schools. That’s why they’re integrationist. Their nature is skewed against their own people. The only thing they have in common with members of their own group is skin color.

All that is black is not black, and all that is white is not white. Brainwashed Americans will learn this painful lesson very soon.

By "Charles", The Original

January 17, 2009 4:11 PM | Link to this

I know a secret too… Let me share it with American women. Many of you can’t face the truth, that is, integration is a trick of the devil. As we speak, some white women are sitting at home with white nappy headed babies. And some black women are sitting at home with black blue eyed babies, etc. And society encourages, rewards, each parent as much as possible.

You have been caught in the snare of the Devil; don’t attempt to force that perversion on the rest of us.

By BW

January 17, 2009 4:19 PM | Link to this

“Charles”, The Original, I think you’re reading too much in my comment to you. I don’t necessarily agree with all your comments, putting the movement and the man into a clear and informed perspective, was meant to convey an interesting viewpoint that was well expressed.

By "Charles", The Original

January 17, 2009 4:38 PM | Link to this

BW, I was responding to the last part of your comment, “Sad that so many in the movement, both Black and White, will not be around to rejoice in these coming historic days.” Rejoice?

Those in the movement that’s no longer with us would rejoice in the coming historic days only if they agree with those who murdered and now misrepresent the position of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

By "Charles", The Original

January 17, 2009 4:42 PM | Link to this

You know, I feeling pretty good this afternoon. Practically every American criticizes the King of Pop, Michael Jackson, for transforming himself into the image of a white person, or whatever. And they certainly should. What must he think of his own black image? He has to be sick, right?

Yet the integrationist teaches women and men in the United States to transform their children into another image via interracial sex and pretend to like the outcome. You women should take control of your own mind. If not, people in power using certain techniques most certainly will.

By "Charles", The Original

January 17, 2009 5:22 PM | Link to this

You see Americans, people in power teaches that there is no God. And only the ignorant and uneducated believes in God. See, if they can convince you to accept their position, God certainly will not intervene when evil rears its ugly head. You will be unprotected.

But to people who fear God, and acts accordingly, people in power can’t touch you. Whenever the devilish plan evil against the Saints, God can and will transform it into good. You shouldn’t accept the ways of the so-called enlightened people. They are just a bag of hot air. Put your trust and faith in God. I trust the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; the God of Israel.

You are solely responsible for finding God.

By Mark

January 17, 2009 5:37 PM | Link to this

If you people choose to honor the life of a lying, womanizing, plagiarist, then whites should be able to honor James Earl Ray. He also had a dream, but he made sure it came true. He is a hero in my, and MANY other’s eyes.

By Mark

January 17, 2009 5:46 PM | Link to this

BW “Mark a suggestion, if you’re a skin-head or a klaner wear your arm band or sheet and attend a few of the events planned and really let all know how you really feel”.

I wouldn’t attend any black event. The odor itself would make me sick, and I don’t want to be the innocent bystander of a driveby, or any other violent act that ni66ers do. Ni66ers in numbers is a sure recipe for trouble.

By Max Tayback

January 18, 2009 8:41 AM | Link to this

SO at least this is a data-point to compare with the four americans who sat at that white-only soda fountain counter in the fifties. The white protesters were on camera, forming a gaunlet that the four americans had to traverse to get either to or from the counter. The white americans were open, face to camera, brazenly shouting epitaphs, and openly jeering the four americans who wanted a soda at the soda fountain. The young white americans seemed proud and arrogant and entitled to interfere arbitrarily in the four american’s lives. I watched the historical footage in quiet Astonishment and Shame.

Compare that with today, when bloggers hide behind aliases and childishly n-word the idea of freedom.

That’s progress. Every once in a while the Jewish Community Center around here gets spray painted with swaztikas. Usually it’s high school pranksters. Compare that to the holocaust and you can see progress, yet the size of man’s brain seems to have shrunk despite these clear signs of a forward march.

By Lee

January 18, 2009 9:25 AM | Link to this

The “Ebony Society.” IE, the BLACK SOCIETY.

But yet, Badie sees nothing wrong with that.

Organizations, that by their very name and purpose, are divisionary, but that’s okay according to the politically correct pathogens like Badie.

One day, a thousand years from now, when historians write about the rise and fall of a country once known as the United States, maybe they will recognize the debilitating effects that political correctness had upon our society.

In 2027, when the FBI files on King are finally unsealed, maybe then we can decide if this is a man that we should honor. Until then, I chose not to.

Whenever someone like Mark posts the www.martinlutherking.org website, they are immediately attacked as racists, bigots, cowards, and whatever other name the politically correct lemmings can throw at them. But yet, I have never seen anyone refute the statements this website has said about King in a logical manner.

Interesting….

By The Conservative

January 18, 2009 12:01 PM | Link to this

MLK was a human being. He’s in everybody’s top five human beings: Jesus, Sitting Bull, Lincoln, MLK and Fabio.

I cant believe the trolls here are still in the gutter….

By Mark

January 18, 2009 2:25 PM | Link to this

Lee

“Whenever someone like Mark posts the www.martinlutherking.org website, they are immediately attacked as racists, bigots, cowards, and whatever other name the politically correct lemmings can throw at them. But yet, I have never seen anyone refute the statements this website has said about King in a logical manner”

And you won’t because ni66ers are afraid of the truth behind the “Reverend”. He never earned a doctorate, nor was his name legally Martin Luther King. It was a moniker his daddy gave him. His legal name was Mike King. Maybe the ni66ers are too illiterate to read???

By LoJ

January 18, 2009 8:05 PM | Link to this

Just remember… Obama ain’t no King. I honor the memeory of MLK, but all this fuss about Obama is a little premature. His skin color may be black, but he was raised solely by whites so he is chocolate on the outside and creamy white on the inside.

By Rastus

January 18, 2009 10:06 PM | Link to this

The obama circus looks like The Planet of the Apes take Washington and Tuesday will look like a bad scene from The Guerillas in the mist.America is doomed.

By Rastus

January 18, 2009 10:23 PM | Link to this

As if the Jigaboos really need an another excuse not to work.My experience has shown me that to the jigaboo every day is a holiday from work.They act like they are on welfare even if they have a job.It must be their experience at bojangling da guvment.In the military it was called Retired on active duty.

By Chris Broe

January 19, 2009 9:09 AM | Link to this

was listening to MLK’s “I have a dream” speech on television this morning. When I was a child, I thought JFK was our greatest speaker. His accent was new to me and I just loved the effect his words had on my young spirit. If I listen to JFK today, at 57, the spell is broken and I understand that he was of his time in the sixties, like the Beatles.

MLK had the best delivery of any speaker in my lifetime. He could be the greatest American Speaker. His speeches are so powerful that he could be the Greatest Living American Speaker. His words certainly live and breath and inspire me down to my core.

My dreams are about personal ambition, (and petty revenge fantasies where my enemies sing off key and I guest solo on the Rubber Soul album.) MLK dreamt for this country’s ambition, where liberty’s enemies would come to understand the true meaning of Justice in America.

Justice in America: Is that light at the end of the tunnel the train Obama took to Washington?

By Black Female Engineer

January 19, 2009 10:11 AM | Link to this

I am a Black woman who is proud to see a person of color become president. Yet, I am concerned. The defense budget is number one on the chopping block.

The area of defense employs some of the brightest and best engineers, scientists and personnel in the world. It is a diverse group of Americans. While it has not made us rich, we are providing a much needed service to our country, keeping the America on the edge of cutting technology and providing for our families. We are a group of Americans who have followed the rules, bought homes we can afford, volunteer in the community, maintain good credit, drive cars we can afford, etc.

What do I tell my children when they look at me and say, “Mom, we have a Black president, why are you losing your job?”

I pray President Obama sees the need for continued production of the F-22 and our necessary defense programs. His first priority should be to take care of home and Americans.

By The Messiah

January 19, 2009 10:54 AM | Link to this

Oh yeah, right, a good leader who is throwing a $150MILLION “coming out” party while he crys about our economy being in the gutter!!!!!He could have “fixed” lots of things, like starving children, if he had gone for a normal inauguration.History will be made allright-150 MILLION of it for the coronation of the king! Where is the outrage from you pandering writers for this record breaking waste of money that you heaped on GB who spent only $40 mill?????

By BW

January 19, 2009 11:15 AM | Link to this

Let’s see Lee, Augusta that still do not allow women, is that divisionary? The golf courses that still do not allow Black or Jews as members cloaked in secert rules, is that divisionary?

When the South was fighting Bussing or Wallace standing in the doorsteps of a state college to keep Blacks out, how many Blacks were accepted into the Elks, the Rotory, the Lions Club, the KKK, the CCC or any other White club, was that divisionary?

Yet you cannot understand why the the Ebony Society was formed, duh.

By BW

January 19, 2009 11:41 AM | Link to this

The Messiah, know the facts before looking foolish.

http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200901180004?show=1

By Lee

January 19, 2009 12:49 PM | Link to this

BW, and the NBA nor the NFL allow women. What’s your point?

By BW

January 19, 2009 1:51 PM | Link to this

Don’t women have a Professional Golf Tour? Doesn’t the NBA have a Professional Womens division? So the point is, it’s okay for Whites in the South to stll discrimate, but if Blacks want to call it’s organization the Ebony Society, it’s wrong?

So what is the diffence between the Ebony Society and the Hiberians?

Can’t make it any more simple then that.

By Mark

January 19, 2009 2:08 PM | Link to this

Chris Broe

Too bad that most of his speeches were plagarized.

By Craig

January 19, 2009 2:11 PM | Link to this

I was born and raised in the west. California to be exact. There wasn’t much of a racism issue there as I went to school with all colors. It was mostly white/hispanic but there were some African Americans as well, just not much. I didn’t learn about how real racism could be in modern times until growing much older and venturing out of the state. My family, my friends families, my friends, we just never really spoke about it or thought we were any different than anyone else. Coming here to the South has been a slap in the face though, both ways. I’ve never seen so much hate towards both whites, and blacks here. My main question or point I wanted to make though was that growing up over there, we were taught that Lincoln was not such a savior to the slaves. George Washington was, and will always be the #1 best president. Lincoln had no intentions of freeing any slaves, his only focus was to keep the union together. I was taught that Lincoln only was willing to finally put an end to slavery in the Southern states that seceded from the Union as a form of punishment to those states. Basicaly if those states had not seperated, than Lincoln would’ve never approached abolishing slavery. I thought it was well known that Lincolns view was that whites and blacks will always be seperated and agreed that blacks are different than whites?

Basicaly we were taught that allthough Lincoln was good for the country, he wasn’t such the saint that he sometimes is made out to be.

But then again, I’m always blown away when I see confederate generals honored down at Stone Mountain. I would think the first thing I’d want to do if I was native to this area, would be to knock that sucker down since what it represents is a very dark time in the country and shouldn’t be celebrated. I guess I learn new things everyday and would’ve never imagined the feelings and racism that still exist in this country had I never came to the South.

By BW

January 19, 2009 2:34 PM | Link to this

Mark, please explain something for me, when you post or quote from a White Surpremacist web-site, the one the hosts the lies about MLK, tell me why that shouldn’t be consided plagarizing?

From Marks Stormfront buds…

“Won’t you help us keep the light? Help us be the welcoming and civil gathering hall for White Nationalists all over the world, the virtual Independence Hall of the European resistance to the New World Order. Without your activism, without your sustaining membership, Stormfront would not be here at all. Stormfront is what you have built, and what you continue to build.”

By Mark

January 19, 2009 2:42 PM | Link to this

BW

You consider them lies because you can’t handle the truth. Sucker!

By BW

January 19, 2009 3:21 PM | Link to this

Mark I can rip apart 95% of the dung on the web-site, I kow you didn’t attempt to research any of the bull they tossed at you it’s easier to just believe. You see dude the weak and the scared are so easy to control and you sucked it all up.

But being as brave as you are, again hiding behind your computer screen, you brag how you upset the AJC, sorry to tell you this little, most here think you are dork.

Mark buy some of those racist t-sheets your buds are selling and take a walk, you can hide from the Black sections, and see how many people are impressed. I’ll bet you will come back home amazed how far a boot can go up your butt.

By CommunistAJC

January 19, 2009 3:59 PM | Link to this

Although I do have respect for MLK I do disagree with his liberal theology. I also don’t understand how he is held as high as Jesus Christ to black people. Rarely do I ever hear black people give credit to God for how far they’ve come.

By Mark

January 19, 2009 4:02 PM | Link to this

BW

“Mark I can rip apart 95% of the dung on the web-site”

You can start any time you’re ready. With documentation, of course…I’ve already done my homework….

By CommunistAJC

January 19, 2009 4:06 PM | Link to this

Craig, What I notice about newcomers to the south is that the first thing they ramble on is race and how white people are evil. You can not erase history and Stone Mountain is what it is. A historic monument for the civil war. I highly doubt California is “race-proof” as you put it. Mexicans fight with blacks all the time. Maybe you’ve spent too much time in the Botox salons. California is full of crazy idiots who are bankrupting that once great state. Go sell stupid somewhere else.

By CommunistAJC

January 19, 2009 4:08 PM | Link to this

Craig, no one made you move here, right? You have the freedom to drive your hybrid right back to California. Take your Botox, your implants and your surf board with you. Troglodyte.

By BW

January 19, 2009 4:11 PM | Link to this

Have you really, tell me why more than 90% of so called facts are not backed by any form of documentation, in court it would be considered heresay. Tell you what dude, pick out five you’d like me to refute, that is more than a fair offer.

By Mark

January 19, 2009 4:22 PM | Link to this

BW

His womanizing his doctorate his ordainment his plagarism his true name

By CommunistAJC

January 19, 2009 4:24 PM | Link to this

Rick Badie, I reread your piece. I noticed something interesting in the piece. You mention that Moore was president of the Ebony Society. Now I am not playing the race card here but there is something strange there. You also mention that she wrote invites to “White Churches.” We “white people” don’t title our churches as “white churches” like some black churches like to title their churches “african-american” churches. Let me ask you this. Do these “african-american” churches have Africans in their congregation? The church I go to includes people of all race. We don’t segregate. It sounds a lot like black people still have a lot of anger and hate in their hearts. I understand the history of the civil rights. From Selma, Al to Memphis, TN but one thing I don’t understand is how people like Jesse Jackson, a man who is known to make anti-Jew statements, can call for states to apologize for slavery when he himself was never a slave. It’s like Jews demanding an apology from Germany. If anyone deserves an apology it should be the Native Americans who lost more than anyone else.

By BW

January 19, 2009 5:06 PM | Link to this

Well Mark this from your on racist web-site.

A few of the writers, speaks volumes about the web-site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MichaelA.Hoffman_II

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Levison

“In “The Journal of American History”, June 1991, page 87, David J. Garrow, a leftist academic who is sympathetic to King, says that King’s wife, Coretta Scott King, who also served as his secretary, was an accomplice in his repeated cheating.”

Now Mark give us a break, “King’s wife, Coretta Scott King, who also served as his secretary, was an accomplice in his repeated cheating.” How can you cheat when your wife is hooking you up with babes, it’s laughable.

“No thought should be given to the revocation of Dr. King’s doctoral degree,” Boston U., 1991 review, wonder they waited so long, kind of slanted when the accused cannot defend themselves.

By Lee

January 19, 2009 5:12 PM | Link to this

“If anyone deserves an apology it should be the Native Americans …”

Maybe. Maybe not.

By Mark

January 19, 2009 5:19 PM | Link to this

BW

King’s wife, Coretta Scott King, who also served as his secretary, was an accomplice in his repeated cheating.” B******. Does that really make sense to you?

Your links proved nothing. Thanks for playing….

By BW

January 19, 2009 5:54 PM | Link to this

A little more Mark…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrozerTheologicalSeminary

The most famous student of Crozer Seminary was the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.. He attended the school in the late 1940s and graduated with a Bachelor of Divinity in 1951 as a Baptist seminarian.

Martin Luther King, Jr., was born on January 15, 1929, in Atlanta, Georgia. He was the son of the Reverend Martin Luther King, Sr. and Alberta Williams King.[2] King’s father was born “Michael King”, and Martin Luther King, Jr., was originally named “Michael King, Jr.”, until the family traveled to Europe in 1934 and visited Germany. His father soon changed both of their names to Martin in honor of the German Protestant Martin Luther.[3] He had an older sister, Willie Christine King, and a younger brother Alfred Daniel Williams King.[4] King sang with his church choir at the 1939 Atlanta premiere of the movie Gone with the Wind.[5]

Now Mark, MLK was five years old when his name was changed by his father, was he supposed to go down to the courthouse and check to see if it was legal.

The first wacked writer didn’t belive in the holocaust, right there you know he’s a wack.

I hope people copy the link about MichaelA.Hoffman_II and paste it in.

About MLK’s cheating is directly from your racist web-site. No proof offered either.

Mark I don’t play, I used facts and bulldung from your own site, now Mark run along, you have been destroyed.

By Craig

January 19, 2009 8:09 PM | Link to this

You’re right about one thing, I love to surf. I do it every morning before work. But that’s about it. I’m not an environmentalist. I like my cars fast, my steak thick, and I have no problem with styrofoam containers. Global warming is the biggest scam of this decade, and yes the actors/actresses and eccentrics of our state unfortunately have the loudest voices, I assure you we’re not all like that in the Los Angeles area. Was I forced to move here? Naw. Well, I didn’t actually move here, I’m just living here right now. I’m branching my business into the South and I have homes in all the major markets my company is in. Ironicaly since being here, I’ve caught a group of black men breaking into my home in which I shot at one of them, and I’ve caught another black man breaking into a car in my buildings parking lot on video surveillance. So yes, sometimes I do have the racist feelings, but it’s only since I’ve been here. Never anywhere else.

By BW

January 19, 2009 10:07 PM | Link to this

Craig, being that the South had to be forced to go along with the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts may have given a few a atitude. Most of the country had accepted the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts long before Washington approved it.

Imagine a state still flying the Stars and Bars until a few years ago when a candidate for government promised a bunch of rednecks he would keep the flag. Boom flag is gone and rednecks have short memories, they re-elected the same guy that screwed them?

By Michael H. Smith

January 19, 2009 10:11 PM | Link to this

I’m not an environmentalist either, I’m a conservationist. Don’t care if a car is fast or not so long as it will get me where I want to go and have no real problem with styrofoam containers, only in that a wasteful society had rather dispose of another useful resource that can be reclaimed and sold again profitably. Global warming is no scam, neither is global cooling both are a science fact of global climate history. What is exaggerated and aggravated globally is the contribution of man.

Anyhow best of luck in your business ventures. Though don’t judge too quickly the so-called racists South. Ethnic hate is regionally pervasive in this country as Dr. King found out during his time spent in Chicago: Which convinced him that he had never seen the likes of ethnic hate manifested anywhere in Jim Crow Alabama or Mississippi, as he witnessed it in that Northern City.

Hopefully you will encounter a better quality of people while in the area. I assure you they do exist. Admittedly you’ll have to keep an eye out for ruminates of the KKK and The New Black Panther holdovers among an otherwise peaceful lawful tolerant society.

By BW

January 19, 2009 10:58 PM | Link to this

MHS, “Ethnic hate is regionally pervasive in this country” sure it is, but you have to admit no one played the race card better than the Southern states. You cannot deny the march’s along with the beatings that went along with them, nor the killing of college Freedom Riders being killed for nothing more than to help Blacks get registered to vote and the worse the bombing of a church killing three young Black girls. All this in the sixties.

Care to show me where Ethnic hate could match the Souths during the sixties?

By Michael H. Smith

January 19, 2009 11:37 PM | Link to this

Write your own book BW. I’m not denying anything. The South gets more than it share of rightful condemnation, so you might want to add a few more chapters on the rest of the country: Unless of course your intent is to write a fiction.

By BW

January 19, 2009 11:49 PM | Link to this

MHS, not saying that there wasn’t a certain amount of racism around the country, but nothing even close to what happened in the South and that is not fiction.

By Michael H. Smith

January 20, 2009 12:09 AM | Link to this

If assessing degrees of wrong and right make you happy or pep-up your ego then go for the gusto. It will not dismiss or diminish the injustice of the rest.

Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere.

By BW

January 20, 2009 1:03 AM | Link to this

MHS, “If assessing degrees of wrong and right make you happy or pep-up your ego then go for the gusto. It will not dismiss or diminish the injustice of the rest.”

Don’t remember many church’s being bombed up North, nor the killing of innocent Freedom Riders being killed or where march’s were met with dogs or hoses.

“If assessing degrees of wrong and right make you happy or pep-up your ego then go for the gusto.” You have to be kidding, I asked compare the South with the North during the sixties, killing little girls by bombing a church, was a far greater crime than anything up North, non fiction. Killing of college students from the North attempting to help Blacks to the Rights under the Constitution, non-fiction.

I cannot buy the dung that a crime is a crime, all equal. That is like jay-walking is the same as murder, sorry MHS, on this issue you make no sense.

By Michael H. Smith

January 20, 2009 3:13 AM | Link to this

To the contrary you never have made any sense whatsoever on this issue BW.

What is your end game eternal condemnation? So it seems and by measuring in degrees to justify it!

Comparisons, and what does that get you - a superior feeling of good or of being somehow better than thou?

Murder in the North is the same as murder in the South. A ethnic hate shouting in Cincinnati is no better than an ethnic hate lynching in Mississippi. I suppose how you got to dead makes the difference? Dead is dead.

I can tell you that you will not change anything by continuing this same old vain repetition of who done the most wrong or right.

Face it, all you want is a body count for immoral support.

By mistress

January 20, 2009 7:11 AM | Link to this

A lot of whites and blacks cheat on their wives, steal and rob. If, and I say if, MLK did those things then he was just human. He was a great man.

By Mark

January 20, 2009 10:07 AM | Link to this

BW

Funny, I don’t feel destroyed. You simply cannot come to grips that MLK was a typical loud mouthed black, with all the trimmings. You sir, are a very bad judge of character…..

By BW

January 20, 2009 1:58 PM | Link to this

MHS, I don’t know what the time limit on hate is, I hope after today, we all can say in this great land we are one, the past is the past.

Of course there always will be idiots, i.e. LT and Mark, but after today THEY will have to handle it.

Mark I offered you every chance to refute me, you could not, parroting opinions is nothing more than being a parrot for someone else.

Peace

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