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Is renter law needed in Gwinnett?

Cherokee County officials decided to hold off on a proposal that would require all renters to pay a $5 fee and subject themselves to a verification process to determine their legal status. They’ll take up the ordinance again in mid-January, commissioners decided Monday night.

The measure would also give the county the power to suspend the licenses of businesses that hire do business illegal immigrants.

In Gwinnett, both measures would probably garner strong vocal support, though not necessarily majority support, from residents. That’s what I think.

What about you?

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By LB

November 18, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

I totally support the proposal and see nothing wrong with it. Most people are tired of the illegals and making it difficult for them is a way of helping them to self deport. What if this same thing with illegals was an epidemic over in France or Canada? What would those countries do? The USA has been taken advantage of due to our hospitality. It’s long past due for Gwinnett and the USA to start supporting American citizens again. If these people truly want to live and work in the USA then they should get their proper paper trail going and come aboard. Otherwise they should be treated as criminals and not welcomed guests. Another thing that needs to be abolished quickly is the anchor baby loophole and make the laws retroactive.

By Luny

November 18, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

Do it!

By Michael H. Smith

November 18, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

I favor the State passing a carbon copy of The Legal Arizona Worker Act which would give every county and city in this state the power to suspend the licenses of businesses that do hire illegal immigrants.

I understand the desires of people in various counties of this state to address this issue. However, zeal should not separate them from understanding Federalism and how that defines what levels of government need to pass this type of legislation.

This renter ordinance again would probably be better addressed at the state level. The five dollar added fee would be something of a contention simply on the principle of thing for a few people and the verification process will likely depend on E-Verify. I’m not sure how that would work using a system meant for employment purposes being used in verifying renters. On the other hand a State of Georgia drivers’ license or State issued Photo ID should cause no problems or other forms of verifying a person’s ID that would be acceptable to the State should not cause problems. A penny tax/fee added to each months rent payment from all renters payable to the State would probably be enough to cover the cost of processing, should the State pass a renter residency status verification law.

To address a certain phony compliant in regards to targeting a “Group” Ms. Shore: It is the obligatory duty of government to target “Group” crime and individual crime.

By bigred

November 18, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

I feel it is just like a DNA test.If you are not guilty of anything,it should not be an issue.The illegals are being “COACHED” on how to get around the laws we currently have.Case in point,the “illegal” who put his daughters name and SSN on the loan to obtain a house and several years later,decides to sell and a single mother tries to buy but because this is discovered,now no one lives in the house.HOW SCREWED UP is the system that a single mom,an AMERICAN CITIZEN,has less rights that someone who was coached on how to obtain a loan and live the “AMERICAN DREAM” with no aspirations of becoming a citizen?I have no problem with foreigners who want to become a US citizen living the “DREAM” but let’s at least make it a MINOR INCONVENIENCE for GOD’S SAKE!

By Alecia

November 18, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this

Big Red-Let’s not forget that the single mother you are defending got upset because the owner, that paid income tax w/ tax id# did not give her 3 months of free rent. Also, she stalked, harrassed, and illegally trespassed on his property. The owner also was current on his loan. If you must pick an example, please choose someone that is not psycho and also broke the law. In this case she does not have more rights, and should be locked up. By the way.. A person does not have to be a citizen to own a home. There are foreigners that buy here all the time. From the point of a landlord, verification sounds good in theory. I would like to see how the government plans to carry it out. Will the local government do the verifying? Small landlords are limited in how they can check records. Records are known to have flaws. How will that be avoided? Governement tends to add to the problem. Also, how will the government enforce it? Will they scour the neighborhoods looking for people that look foreign or have an accent? Perhaps they will look in the phone directory for individuals w/foreign surnames. This opens the doors for a host of lawsuits.

By Alecia

November 18, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

LB-Illegals are a big problem in France. They are overrun with illegal Arabs. They have had problems for years. Also, alot of Mexicans are opting to move to Canada instead of the USA. Don’t know how to classify it, because they are just showing up and Canada is accepting them with open arms. However, it is starting to become a problem.

By nana

November 18, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

I think it’s a great idea. Getting government involved would be ideal but we all see how they handle illegal immigrants with the laws on the books now…they don’t.

If Canada is in fact welcoming illegals with open arms it’s only a matter of time before they get fed up as well. Let them have all the illegals in Gwinnett before they get fed up though! :)

By BW

November 18, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

Will this policy also apply to Whites as well or would it be targeted at a certain group? Who would make the decision to check those of a certain group?

Why don’t all good United States citizens be required to have their Social Security numbers tatooed on their arms, it cut down on having to prove if your a citizen or not when stopped by the inspectors.

If it passes I see a Major lawsuit and Cherokee County paying out big bucks.

Two wars, the economy down the tubes and this is what Cherokee County is worried about?

By Michael H. Smith

November 19, 2008 5:40 AM | Link to this

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From the recently released 2008 State New Economy Index: Benchmarking Economic Transformation in the States, focusing on Georgia’s atrocious ranking of number “41” in “immigration of knowledge workers”, it behooves our state legislators to act in the next session of the General Assembly to immediately consider passing into law legislation to eliminate illegal alien residency in this State in order to encourage in-migration of “Knowledge Workers”.

Citing from the report:

  • Just as countries compete for talent, so do states. And, while foreign immigration is important, the lion’s share of immigration into states is from Americans moving across state lines.

  • Knowledge workers also tend to move to where other knowledge workers already are highly concentrated.

  • In addition, states with a large share of high-wage professional and managerial jobs that rely more on knowledge workers do well.

The 2008 State New Economy Index: Benchmarking Economic Transformation in the States

http://www.itif.org/index.php?id=200

Eliminating the job magnet is the key component to discourage illegal alien residency and employment in the workforce of this State. In order for counties to move effectively against employers that hire illegal aliens it behooves our state legislators to act in the next session of the General Assembly to immediately consider passing into law a carbon copy of “The Legal Arizona Workers Act” to discourage employment of all illegal alien unauthorized workers.

Legal Arizona Workers Act

http://www.azag.gov/LegalAZWorkersAct/index.html

By BobG

November 19, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Rick, I reviewed the Cherokee ordinance and subsequently asked the Commission to drop two components: the renter license and their process for investigating complaints about businesses that hire illegal workers. The former is, in my opinion, unnecessary when you adopt other court-tested and more effective measures; also, it is the provision that is likely to draw the most legal fire. The latter provision was just plain unconstitutional and unenforceable.

The rest of the ordinance is really good. The primary enforcement provision is a requirement that all businesses enroll in E-Verify to receive/renew a business license.

The Commission Chairman also reported that the county was moving toward adoption of the 287(g) program and full compliance with the Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act passed in 2007.

Cherokee is on the way to implementing the most aggressive, local anti-illegal immigration enforcement effort in the state.

Finally, Michael, the Arizona act won’t work here. It doesn’t give authority to local governments; it requires companies to enroll in E-Verify to receive the state business license. Georgia doesn’t have a similar licensing mechanism by which enforcement could occur statewide.

The best solution is for Georgians demand that all state agencies, cities and counties comply with the Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act (formerly SB-529, authored by Chip Rogers). Now 16 months after enactment, only a handful of Georgia cities and counties have complied to any degree.

The GSICA requires local governments to verify the eligibility of applicants for public benefits including business licenses. It also requires them to verify their own employees through E-Verify and require the recipients of public contracts to enroll in E-Verify.

Although not required by the GSICA, every local government should also adopt a requirement that applicants enroll in E-Verify to receive or renew a business license.

[An FYI, Michael: Federal law gives local govt the authority to regulate illegal immigration through licensing. A renters license would be a public benefit. The county would then be required by law to verify eligibility for the public benefit, and that verification would occur through the federal Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) Program, not E-Verify.]

By joe the plumber

November 19, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

please join me in hating all imigrunts - ligul and illigul.

if i see one more mexcan blowing leefs or washing dishs; in other words taking american jobs: i will get my gun out.

By Stan

November 19, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

“In Gwinnett, both measures would probably garner strong vocal support, though not necessarily majority support, from residents. That’s what I think.”

It doesn’t really matter if it has support or not, just look at our new baseball stadium and garbage pick debacle.

I do tend to support what they are going for, but I hope that they are very careful to make sure it will pass legal muster before enacting this.

By Michael H. Smith

November 19, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Finally, Michael, the Arizona act won’t work here. It doesn’t give authority to local governments; it requires companies to enroll in E-Verify to receive the state business license. Georgia doesn’t have a similar licensing mechanism by which enforcement could occur statewide.

@ BobG

Perhaps we read this differently, I take it that it does give counties authority.

  • The law authorizes the County Attorneys and the Attorney General to investigate complaints. However, if a complaint is lodged with the Attorney General’s Office, and if this Office investigates and determines that the complaint is not false and frivolous, the case must then be turned over to the County Attorney of the county where the unauthorized alien is or was employed, because the law does not give the Attorney General the authority to pursue sanctions against the employer in court. That power is given only to the County Attorneys.

http://www.azag.gov/LegalAZWorkersAct/index.html

As to mechanism: Not having one doesn’t prevent creating one does it?

It would be far better in my opinion to enact the law that would cover every county than to have a piecemeal approach from counties acting independently.

We agree Federal law gives local govt the authority to regulate illegal immigration through licensing. Which is the reason I’ve spoken out in support of the State enhancing occupational and trades licensing. In fact the Constitution gives states this authority to regulate illegal immigration through licensing. Et al drivers license.

By BW

November 19, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Profiling is now legal? Where does it stop or who is next. The South rises again.

By Mary's Mom

November 19, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

To BW:

Your post doesn’t make sense!!

THAT IS NOT ‘PROFILING’! PROOF OF A LEGITIMATE LEGAL STATUS (OR NOT) IS NOT ‘PROFILING.’

*Enforcement of statutes affecting the quality of life of all LEGITIMATE people in the US is NOT “profiling.” *

Were you whining and complaining when Arizona started enforcing statutes? NO, didn’t think so! (Less drama than you could stir up).

By BW

November 19, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Is racial profiling legal?

No. The Fourth Amendment in United States Constitution protects your rights to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, meaning that the police must have reasonable suspicion that a crime is occurring before they stop a suspect. Also, under the Equal Protection Clause to the Constitution, as well as federal and state civil rights laws, the police may not consider race in their enforcement activity, except when they seek a particular person described in part by race.

Why is racial profiling wrong?

Racial profiling violates the democratic ideals of the United States. It does not abide by this country’s commitment to equal protection under the law for all persons. It is also an ineffective law enforcement strategy. Studies have demonstrated that the more an officer engages in racial profiling, the less chance he or she has of finding contraband.

Where does the concept of racial profiling come from?

The term “racial profiling” is new, but the concept is not.

Racial profiling has existed in various forms since the end of slavery. For example, during Reconstruction, “black codes” made it punishable by imprisonment or indentured servitude for African Americans to loiter, be unemployed, be drunk, or be in debt.

Characterizations of people of color as menacing figures have long been part of mainstream media and culture in the U.S.

The “war on drugs” perpetuates racial profiling. Some officers are specifically told to keep an eye out for drivers who belong to “ethnic groups associated with the drug trade,” although the premise that minorities commit the most drug offenses is false. Also, officers are given excessive and unmonitored discretion to decide whom to stop and search, which gives free reign to discriminatory law enforcement.

By BW

November 19, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

Mary’s Mom will the test be applied equally across the board, including the lily whites of the county? If so, how will you prove that it has? This will make an attorney and his client very rich.

Arizona had been slapped down a few times on these laws, has this been challenged yet? If it has and they won, they finally got it right.

Mary’s Mom, you do realize that Arizona is located on the Mexican boarder do you not and may have a bit more of a problem?

By LT5000

November 19, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

People you have to excuse BW (aka Brucie the dumbass).

You see, if you made all the illegals leave Gwinnett then Brucie could “cruise” the local QT and Home Depots for his daily portion of “chorizo”.

LT5000

By Anuncio

November 19, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Community service announcement: Illegal aliens complaining they will soon have no place to live, word on the street has it 12 million vacancies are available south of the border.

* ¡Spanish required!*

By BW

November 19, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

LT, KMA.

By Blue Devil

November 19, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Dear Mexico,

Please send us your doctors, lawyers, and engineers. We have enough leafblowers.

Thanks,

The USA

By roska

November 19, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

How can an ordinance like this possibly be considered profiling?

When I register my car I have to prove I have insurance. They ask everybody for the documentation without prejudice.

When you pass through security at the airport they require identification - no prejudice - no exception.

If you had to produce a valid passport to sign a rental contract the same requirement would be there for everyone. No prejudice there.

I say anything we can do to chase these parasites out of the county is a great idea. Let them move to some liberal state that is willing to pay for them.

For that matter let Bruce move there too!

By nana

November 19, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

I don’t see how requesting someone prove their legal status is profiling. Sounds like someone (??) on here is either married to or dating an illegal or makes their living off of them.

By BobG

November 19, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Michael, we don’t disagree. The Arizona law requires E-Verify for the state business license, but delegates authority for enforcement to the prosecutorial authority of the county in which the complaint is lodged. In that respect, then, authority is delegated to the counties.

Several states have proposed creating a state business license, then issuing them to all businesses operating in the state (whether they applied or not), just so that there would be something to suspend if the business doesn’t enroll in E-Verify. Yes, I would like to see uniform, statewide enforcement, but there’s got to be a better way.

Now… [against my better judgment]… BW, Arizona has never been slapped down over its E-Verify for business license law. You are factually incorrect.

Further, your obviously plagiarized post about racial profiling isn’t applicable. If Gwinnett were to adopt a renters license, ALL renters regardless of color would be required to become licensed.

Finally, BW, Gwinnett is home to one of the largest immigrant communities in the southeast and, arguably, one of the highest concentrations of illegal immigrants. I bet that I could find a ton of legal out-of-work Gwinnett residents who would love to have the jobs currently held by illegal aliens. Illegal immigration is just as much an issue here as it is in the southwest.

By Michael H. Smith

November 19, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Not trying to be argumentative Bob but reading this section leads me to believe the law applies to counties, cities and towns that issue business licenses. Further reading seems to apply a suspension all licenses upon the court finding quilt.

Sec. 3. Section 23-211, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended to read: 17 23-211. Definitions

  • “Agency” means any agency, department, board or commission of this state or a county, city or town that issues a license for purposes of operating a business in this state.
  • http://www.azag.gov/LegalAZWorkersAct/hb2745h.pdf?inDoc=/legtext/48leg/1r/laws/0279.htm

    PS. Not only has this Arizona law withstood a court challenge, it has also withstood a recent ballot proposition attempt to dilute it, Bob

    By BRIAN

    November 19, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

    Only in gwinnett county would this happen. It is illegal.Do home owners have to prove their status ,do shop owners did the commissoners prove their birtplace to run? Pass the law then spend 2million to fight the law suits

    By BRIAN

    November 19, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

    PEOPLE IN GWINNNETT ARE NOT PREJUDICE .THEY ARE JUST GOOD OLD AMERICANS THAT LOVE THEIR COUNTRY

    By NOWICUNVME

    November 19, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

    I think this is outrageous. While we all know exactly who and what this law is trying to crack down on, in my opinion it’s clear cut discrimination against people who rent. Putting aside the fact that only certain “diverse” applicants will be properly screened, what next? Misdemeanor convictions? Felony convictions? Anyone who smoked marijuana in high school? I mean where does it end??

    I stated on one of the other blogs that I was neutral on the subject of illegal immigration and employment because on the one hand it appears to be out of control and needing to be addressed somehow. Yet, on the other hand, it’s “racist”. As evidenced by the majority of the comments on this blog itself, the sole purpose is to eliminate and deport the influx of hispanics that have come here to either live the American Dream, or work to feed their families back home. Yes, there are some that break the law, drink too much, play loud music or whatever. However, these stereotypical scenarios occur within every single ethnicity. I don’t care what some of you may think, most of these people, (and yes, they really are people) come here because it’s the USA. Home of the free, land of the brave. Is it the water down here or just good ol Peachy Georgia mentality that makes one think they are better than another human race? The last thing needed is for the government to have to intervene on this one. Especially here in Georgia. Confederate, Right Wing, backwards, behind the times, Georgia. How about stamping out oppression and racism first? Maybe get rid of paying taxes 15 times on one vehicle? That would be sales tax and then ridiculous ad valorem?? tax for each subsequent year you own the car. WTH??? And how about the millage rates being set by the congressmen using whatever formula they derive from an epiphany moment after waking up from a hangover after an all day hangout at the Golf Course. I didn’t see Gwinnett taxpayers screaming like this when the BOC took it upon themselves to up the ante on the 80 million dollar stadium with no vote!

    I guess it’s a lot easier and convenient to pick on the little people that can’t fight back. Can’t we all just get along? LIVE AND LET LIVE

    OBAMA08

    By Cindy

    November 19, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

    As evidenced by the majority of the comments on this blog itself, the sole purpose is to eliminate and deport the influx of hispanics that have come here ILLEGALY to either live the American Dream, or work to feed their families back home.

    …while every taxpayer in the USA financed it.

    By Michael H. Smith

    November 20, 2008 1:01 AM | Link to this

    What is outrageous is some of us don’t want to understand illegal means crime. Some don’t want to understand or respect our rights as sovereign people and our property rights. Don’t want to respect our right to tell some foreign ones no you cannot come to our country. That is why we will never just all get along. You bet we U.S. Citizen taxpayers finance all of it. All the corruption from top to bottom foreign and domestic we are the little people who are the violated.

    Who says crime does pay?

    By BW

    November 20, 2008 3:05 AM | Link to this

    “By BRIAN November 19, 2008 7:39 PM

    PEOPLE IN GWINNNETT ARE NOT PREJUDICE .THEY ARE JUST GOOD OLD AMERICANS THAT LOVE THEIR COUNTRY.”

    That’s a joke isn’t, let’s see there is North America. Canada and the United States, plus a great section of Mexico, Middle America and South America. Did we get a trademark on it Ladies and Gents never forget that we a just a wee bit of the America’s.

    The ignorance displayed in the comments this column is amazing, please, please, please, educate on the subject before commenting. It’s no wonder we have a problem.

    I bet you’re running to youe little atlas’s right now.

    By delois

    November 20, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

    Since 19 illegals were arrested in the largest meth bust in the Southeast that occurred in our Lawrenceville neighborhood a couple of years ago, nobody can convince me that the illegals have any rights in this country. These 19 people were living in two rental houses. Another big bust a few months ago in another rental house in our neighborhood - more illegals. I am sick and tired of hearing about their rights. What about my right to feel safe where I live? For every illegal mowing your lawn or cleaning your house, there are 5 moving drugs through Gwinnett County. Sign up for the daily email arrest report for your zip code and see who’s getting arrested. Open your eyes people and quit standing up for these law breakers.

    By Janie

    November 20, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

    Let’s do it!

    By woodie

    November 20, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

    The rest of the counties are passing these laws which will result in driving more illegals to Gwinnett. We already have a disproportionate number of illegals here already. So we need to follow suit else we become a pocket of poverty and crime (more of a pocket than we already are).

    By Laughingly Similar 2U

    November 20, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

    This is a very dangerous road to be traveling down. Illegals wont just go. If we create a crisis, something has to give.

    Do not enact these measures. It’s tomfoolery of the worst sort.

    By slinkyhoe

    November 20, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

    part of the reason why our economy is in turmoil is the illegal immigrants taking jobs that legal citizens have.

    By nana

    November 20, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

    I’m all for legal immigrants not illegal immigrants. These people are criminals by just being here illegally. They have just about ruined Gwinnett County. Check out mugshots for Gwinnett I have it e-mailed to me for my zip code and 90-95% of the arrests are Hispanics and 90-95% of these are arrested for no driver’s license. So all you bleeding hearts who think that those that don’t want illegal immigrants are racists are wrong. That racist term is getting really old. These illegal immigrants are draining our resources and there are very little resources left for the citizens and legal immigrants.

    By LT5000

    November 20, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

    Brucie (BW) has made a comeback and is even more ignorant than when he left. Apparently he spent his much of his time away on his knees.

    If you disagree with his positions you are stupid and racist.

    I guess that means the INS and ICE are racist because they dare to question someone’s legal status.

    What a total idiot. Brucie, next time you go away please stay there.

    LT5000

    By LT5000

    November 20, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

    Brucie’s mommy apparently didn’t read this article to him.

    methamphetamine and marijuana into the country, Benson said. Gwinnett is the focal point for the Mexican drug trade here because of easy access on I-85 and a large Hispanic population where drug traffickers can try to blend in, U.S. Attorney David Nahmias said.

    Representatives of Mexican drug cartels in Atlanta are “clashing with each other,” Benson said.

    Brucie is so open-minded his brain must have fallen out.

    Take note kids, Brucie is a prime example of what happens to your brain when you huff too much smoke.

    Fortunately for Brucie, he will be feeding off the government teet until the day he dies.

    LT5000

    By All tehy want to do is commit fraud

    November 20, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

    Examiners traded driver’s licenses for cash, indictment says

    136 illegal immigrants got licenses without taking test, authorities say

    The four examiners were charged with identity theft and conspiracy to commit fraud, related to issuing licenses for the illegal immigrants. The four also were charged separately with conspiracy to transfer false identification related to a handful of commercial driver’s licenses.

    Cobb and Read received their false commercial driver’s licenses in 2007 from their co-worker Patterson, according to the indictment. A third person who was not an examiner received a commercial license from Read in 2007. That man was not identified.

    Cobb and Patterson manually typed passing scores into the man’s driving record, which allowed Read to issue him a commercial license, the indictment said.

    All three later were hired by MARTA as bus drivers.

    Cobb and Read were suspended Wednesday, said Andrea Coleman, a spokeswoman for MARTA. The third driver was suspended Thursday, and all three will be terminated, she said.

    Cobb and Read were assigned to different routes, filling in where needed, Coleman said. They did not have fixed routes. The third person’s route was not identified.

    MARTA had no way of knowing the commercial driver’s licenses were false, she said.

    “We did all of our checks, and all of our systems worked,” Coleman said.

    “It is standard and required procedure that every newly hired operator — whether they have a commercial driver’s license or not — receives 55 days of extensive training,” Coleman said in a statement.

    The four license examiners worked out of the Lithonia office of the Department of Driver Services. They are alleged to have accepted cash for allowing 136 illegal immigrants to obtain driver’s licenses, according to Nahmias.

    Two other men — Harikrishna Patel, 26, of Snellville, and Satishkumar Patel, 48, of Nashville — were also indicted. Harikrishna Patel charged illegal immigrants between $7,000 and $8,000 each to get a driver’s license in 2007, according to the U.S. Attorney’s statement.

    One of the four examiners would issue the license without requiring the illegal immigrant to take a test or produce proof of legal residency in Georgia, Nahmias said. Georgia law requires legal presence in the United States in order to receive a license.

    Satishkumar Patel, who operates a convenience store in Nashville, drove illegal immigrants from Nashville to Lithonia in 2007 to get licenses, according to the indictment. They would pay Harikrishna Patel and he would put them in touch with the Lithonia examiners. Three of the illegal immigrants were from India and worked in Patel’s store, the indictment stated.

    The Department of Driver Services is canceling all of the licenses involved in the case, according to Nahmias. Three of the examiners left their positions with DDS in late 2007 or early 2008. The Department of Driver Services terminated Patterson in September 2008, Nahmias said.

    By Tailgunner

    November 21, 2008 6:33 AM | Link to this

    Clause 2, Section. 4.of the US Constitution states: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence. Article. V.

    In light of the obvious fact that the federal government has all but ignored its Constitutional duty to protect against this invasion, it must of necessity be taken up by the states or local districts.

    No place to live, no jobs available - the self deportation begins. As a bonus, the almost 400,000 jobless Georgians, legal citizens of the United States, many of them facing the end of their pitifully paltry unemployment benefits, will suddenly have a myriad of jobs available to them and will be able to support their families.

    By John Galt Jr.

    November 21, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this

    I own 7 rental properties. I already do a background/credit check to make sure you are who you say you are. The agency I use could add this to their list of stuff to check very easily. I support it.

    By BW

    November 21, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

    Hey folks does anyone pay attention to the news? The big bailout was for Wall Street, how many illegals have taken over Wall Sreet?

    The collapse was due to the housing market dying and fat cat specculators, not illegals.

    What about the lily-white contractors that hired illegals by the thousands, you know who, they live in your neighborhood, go to the same church you do and THEY screwed United States workers.

    How about the lily-white owners of the chicken farms, raid them, send the illegals home, see how many lily-whites show up for the job.

    Personal responsibility, the unknown word to Southerners, it’s always easier to blame someone else.

    By ¡Viva La Migra!

    November 21, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

    lily whites work on chicken farms cleaning out manure from chicken houses. lily whites pickup garbage. lilly whites pump-out jiffy-johns on job-sites.

    ¡Viva La Migra!

    By Ben

    November 21, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

    Bw…is that you Obama?

    By Laughingly Similar 2U

    November 21, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

    I love the smell of jiffyjohns in the morning…..Every man needs to take his time when taking a dump……you sit there, and grunt, and grunt, and maybe a rare sculpture emerges from the pile, maybe you’re Rodin or something, yet you still flush. Why?

    People you dont understand your own talent.

    Be yourself.

    By Ben

    November 21, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

    That was about as dumb as it gets. If you write sonnets, do it on your own blog dummas.

    By nana

    November 21, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

    What is up with laughinglysimilar2u?

    By illegal tico

    January 6, 2009 12:33 PM | Link to this

    hello i just want to say whatever you going to do better do it now look ay us growing and in a few years we are gonna be all over the us ..its going to be our country . we have more kids than americans and they are legal .. get your books learn spanish and joe the plumber lets start a race war!!!

    By illegal tico

    January 6, 2009 12:34 PM | Link to this

    hello i just want to say whatever you going to do better do it now look at us growing and in a few years we are gonna be all over the us ..its going to be our country . we have more kids than americans and they are legal .. get your books learn spanish and joe the plumber lets start a race war!!!

    By 1 million dollar wet back

    January 6, 2009 1:02 PM | Link to this

    came 11 years ago to us as a turist ,find some friends who worked painting and started to paint aparments making 8 dollars an hour worked really hard for that guy for 3 years then an amaerican hired me to work him making $25 hourly i was so good that he started to pay me just one price for the poryect which it was $50k or more depending the job and i hired my people this job was nationwide so my job site was my home ,did a few jobs for him untill he didnt pay me $34 k when he found out i was ilegal worker ok thats the kind of crap americans do to us and of course he hired me bcuz he paid me less than an american then i moved to atl to star all over started painting house with a brush n a roller cover , got married , 6 years later have a son and a big painting company .people loves me i do great work i pay taxes which the gov have no problem giving u a tax id but they wont give u a driver license … well i saved alot of money in 6 years im a good person .i dont hurt anyone , i think im here in this great country bcuz god wanted me too . but i drive everyday without a driver license .my cars are in somebod else name . i got 16 aparments 2 houses and starting 2 great restaurants back home with the money im making here = your money … ill be here for a little longer to make more money a have a life that u all wish .. who knows maybe my son will be the first latino president of the us . half of u wont get to see that cuz your age but your kids will. look at it this way for english press 1 para espanol precione 2 …that dont sound like us to me anymore .. look at the spanish your kids are learning …dont worry we are just going to take more of your money in a good way and leave this country alone .. anyway is almost broke now

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