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Girls, football and the Bible
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The Bible has been used to justify lots of things. Slavery and female servitude come to mind.
Now it seems the good book was used in an attempt to sideline Kacy Stuart, a female kicker for the New Creation Center Crusaders in Spalding County.
Before a recent game, the East Atlanta Mustangs read a Bible verse to express its beliefs about female football players. In a pre-game statement, the team used verses from the book of Romans. The game went on. The Crusaders crushed the Mustangs 39-8. Stuart did all the kicking and extra-point attempts.
Now the Crusaders are supposed to face a Bartow team on Saturday, but the game has been canceled. Stuart’s mother thinks it’s because of her daughter’s gender.
What do you think about a team using the Bible against a female kicker?
Should females be allowed to suit up for the gridiron?
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By Stan
October 21, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Was it really the “team” that quoted the bible before the game? or was it the coach? Either way it is silly, though their choice.
As for girls being allowed to play, yes they should be able to play if they try out for the team and are chosen based on merit. If they show FAIRLY that they deserve to be there and understand, as all kids should, the dangers of the game then yes.
good topic Rick
By Sloan
October 21, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
How is the bible relevant in anything? Don’t judge me cause I believe in science!
By BW
October 21, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
After the Crusaders crushed the Mustangs 39-8, they should be checking out the Bible for a new coach or some plays.
By catlady
October 21, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Absolutely rediculous. These same people talk about being “eqally yoked.”
By Mark
October 21, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
The buybull is nothing but a work of fiction. People read into it whatever they want. Those who believe in a g-d are either children or retards.
By fromotherstory
October 21, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
The question should not be whether or not a girl should be allowed to play. The question should be whether or not a lawyer can force a private organization to bypass their belief system. This league wants to have an all-boys team. Let them! If they want an all-girls team, let them have one. Don’t force your own political or social leanings on a private organization.
By Kyle
October 21, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Only in the south would you hear this kind of nonsense. That team deserved to get crushed after reading that stupidity about female football players. My son plays baseball; he’s 12 and there’s a girl on his team and she’s a great player and all the guys love having her on the team. The other teams make fun of her until she strikes them out or hits a homerun! The point is instead of cowboying up and just playing the game, these knuckleheads, who just really are afraid of their boys being shown up by a girl are hiding behind the Bible along w/ ridiculous faux chivalry. “Oh my boy’s 6’3” and 240 lbs and I’ve taught him not to “hit” girls”. Ha! You’re boy’s a girlie maaannn and afraid this girl will kick his fat arse all over the field, which is apparently what happened!!!!
By LG
October 21, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
Central Gwinnett has a girl kicker on their varsity football team. Doesn’t seem to be causing problems there.
By A. Nony Mouse
October 21, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
If she can kick, pass and/or punt, then yes.
By Joe the Thumber
October 21, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
I’ve heard of the cheerleader eligible play before, but I never thought I’d see it this far south. Dress up one of the cheerleaders with pads and a uniform, and let her go all Radio City Music Hall on the pigskin. It worked once for the Gripper. (oh wait, that was the time my aunt caught me, I get my team sports mixed up, sorry)
nevermind.
By thefisherman
October 21, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
Tell us which verses in Romans, so we can read them and judge for ourselves…
By Badie
October 21, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
Fisherman: I don’t know what verses were used. If I am able to find out, I will post them.
By "Spank" the monkey
October 21, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Women should be able to play on men’s teams if men can play on women’s teams. I’ve always enjoyed women’s field hockey (it’s the socks, man) and always wanted to try out for the team. If I can suit up, then the female place kicker can suit up.
By reservoirDAWG
October 21, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
What an asanine question. Who flipping cares. NOBAMA.
By Football MOM
October 21, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
For all of you that have opened up your minds so much that you have let your brains fall out… let me remind you that football is a CONTACT sport. The mother of this so called “girl football player” loves lawyers, lawsuits and the spotlight, (that is why she has been making a spectical of herself and her poor little girl), so let one of our big 200lb boys “hit her” as the mom was quoted as saying. Our boys will be hit with sexual harassment suits and will be registered sex offenders before they can get off the field! Girls forcing themselves into all BOY LEAGUE that was formed specifically for MALES is going too far with your liberation movement!!!! This is still America, right? Where is my son’s right to be on a PRIVATE team without girls getting in the way? GiRLs playing football in an all boy league, they next thing we will be seeing females who want the “right” to marry other females, okay Ellen, that one is for you! And just a word of caution for all you who mock the Lord and His word. Please read Romans 14:11. You will give an account one day.
By Okay, Deal.
October 21, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
You know something? Football Mom is RIGHT! Just what is a chick supposed to do with a jockstrap? The jockstrap is the most quint-essential part of football tradition. Without the jockstrap, there can be no football, or football moms, or gridiron, or hash marks, or goal posts, or nuthin. If we let the chicks ruin football with thong underwear, and female-eunuch padding, then we may as well play beach volleyball, if’n you be a diggin’ what I be intimatin’ 2U this day.
New rule: No chicks in the huddle.
By who cares
October 21, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this
Are they gonna start letting boys play on girls teams if there is not a boys team for that sport at the school? Volleyball for example?
By Jimbo I
October 21, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this
Football mom has obviously never heard of a release form. She’s also obviously never heard of field hocket, lacrosse, soccer or gymnastics. Gymnasts perform with injuries that lay up your big bad 200lb. boys for months and a lot of those folks are girls. Oh yeah, chicks are fighter pilots and helicopter pilots and other sorts of “contact” professions. You ever heard of a Kiowa scout? You tell the chick leaning out the “left seat” position with an M4 popping off at insurgents while taking fire from AKs and RPGs that she’s not the equal of your big bad boys. Those females work in a macho environment that only the best of either sex can handle. What about female cops? You don’t think that’s macho environment with “CONTACT”?
Look idiot, at some point the military, the police, military academies, and voting were all “ALL BOY” leagues.. chicks like you make me wish sometimes it’d stayed that way.
Man, I’m a dude and I think being a dude is great, but I’ve seen chicks do some awesome stuff that makes me think they deserve a hell of a lot more credit than morons like Football mom and some hack high school football coach are willing to give them.
By Thanks Paul
October 21, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this
It does not surprise me that they would use the bible to restrict women. After all, it was written by a man (yes listen up all you ignoramouses who think differently, GOD did not use his hands to actually write it). Since Man wrote it, Man wrote it to fit his beliefs. Women have always been seen as inferior and subject to domination by men.
These backwoods future wife-beaters who do not want to play against a women because they are afraid to lose better hope they never have a female boss.
By Thanks Paul
October 21, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this
Oh, and another point, Girls team were started because the idiot boys wouldn’t let the girls play with them.
Boys only and Girls only teams are kind of like “Separate but Equal”, hence, the whole idea sucks!
By LOL
October 21, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this
Are Boys only and Girls only locker rooms kind of like “Seperate but Equal”, hence, does that whole idea suck?
By Sloan
October 21, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this
Is she in shape or is she one of those she-males? That would determine the amount of hands I used when I tackled her.
By rich in roswell
October 21, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this
if a girl wants to play football and is good enough to do so then let her play. even a kicker has certain risks relative to contact. if she accepts that and understands that she could get her bell rung, even if its a cheap shot (because that happens with the big boyz too) then so be it.
quoting the bible to justify exclusion is about as un-jesus like as i can think of. this is simply a case of folks using their personal values to pass judgment against another.
absolutely pathetic.
By The Forgotten Messiah.
October 22, 2008 5:55 AM | Link to this
Let he who is without a penalty cast the first flag.
By Hand's Off
October 22, 2008 7:33 AM | Link to this
Make a girl’s team and a boy’s team. Keep the girl off the boy’s team. It’s an opportunity for the girl to have boys put their hands all over her and it be ok. This behavior is not ok in the classroom or anywhere else and is considered sexual harrassment. Why should it be ok on a football team. Who is to say her parents won’t sue the team for harassment and the county will have to pay a huge lawsuit. These parents are already up in arms about a game being cancelled. Sounds like the parents are using the daughter to get rich. The team should not have ever let her on. They really opened up a can of worms. Other high schools who have allowed this need to stop it immediately. I smell a lawsuit no matter which way it goes. Get her off the boy’s team. If a girl was on the Atlanta Falcon’s team I would no longer support it because I enjoy a men’s sport. If I wanted to see a women’s sport I would watch an all women’s game.
By jim d
October 22, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this
I could really care less if she plays or not. However, I believe anyone that uses a passage from scripture to discriminate has totally missed the meaning of the rest of the book.
By jim d
October 22, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
Rick,
After consulting Romans in the King James Version the only passage I could find that might even apply is Romans 1:26 ‘For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature”
By Jais
October 22, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
I’m with Kyle there- if you consult the bible for things like money, rain, your future, your defense…then seriously, you’re an idiot.
I like some of these morons who think god grants wishes. NO, YOU RATTLESNAKE HOLDING RUBES…THAT’S I DREAM OF GENIE. God is not going to come out of a lamp and grant wishes. Not going to happen.
I also like these peabrains who claim they know what god wants and says. Are you folks abraham? You like heard him talk or did he send you a letter…seriously, god doesn’t use a yahoo email account either, so keep on talking. That’s all you bible belt cavemen are doing, just talking. Casting demons out of lampshades and waiting for the end times isn’t going to work out for you.
By LT5000
October 22, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Thank God Blubbering Badie wrote this article. There is absolutely nothing else going on in Gwinnett.
Except this:
Officials OK reimbursement Grant will pay county for housing illegal immigrants
LAWRENCEVILLE - Officials approved a $152,247 grant Tuesday to reimburse the county for housing illegal immigrants in the local jail and prison.
“That’s pittance for what we spend, but it’s good to have something to defray the costs,” Commissioner Mike Beaudreau said of the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program from the U.S. Department of Justice.
Acting Warden David Peek said the county identified about 160 “criminal aliens” who were in the jail or prison 23,383 days for the grant.
In order to qualify, the people had to be incarcerated for at least four days and convicted of at least one felony or two misdemeanors.
“I don’t think you can gauge how many illegals are in the jail based on the grant,” he said.
Peek said the grant paid about $20 a day per inmate, while the operating expenses are typically about $27 a day per inmate. About 95 percent of the funds will go to the jail, with the rest going to the Department of Corrections, he said.
Just committing the rapes, robberies, drug dealing and murders that Americans are too lazy to commit.
Please AJC, get a real journalist. Do you really pay Blubbering Badie to write this bilge?
LT5000
By BW
October 22, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this
Also in Romans 1:29, when it’s forth and ten, punt.
Seems the dude or dudette above got lost along the way.
By Roger
October 22, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
I wonder if she has big jugs?
By Jack
October 22, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this
Mr. Bradie,
Good article… Has anyone ever heard of the organization “Fellowship of Christian Athletes”? I don’t believe they would approve of this behavior from any school or coach. The coaches actions should appall anyone for many reasons. First, using the bible to reference anything negative shows me someone that is ignorant and uneducated. Second, you don’t use the bible in the wrong context for any reason. Third, society (especially someone in a teaching or mentoring position such as coaches) should be mentoring our youth and encouraging them to respect the bible and religion. As everyone can see we could use a little more GOD in our world. Anyone in charge of our children should be displaying behavior that will instill positive attributes in our children.
This coach displays ignorance, that displays nothing for children to look up to or use as a role model or to use as a mentor. Matter of fact he sounds like a egotistical, self rightous, ignorant pig that doesn’t understand how his behavior, actions and words effect the minds of a young person in his position of being a coach. This coach needs to be relieved of his duties.
It’s not about a girl being on an all boys team. It’s not about the bible because no matter what religion you are, the bible should be taught to be respected and not taken out of context or used for personal motives. It’s about making sure the people we in trust our children with will teach them the right way of life like a father would, not teach them disrespect, how to be discriminatory or to be mean and hateful.
I am a white male and a father of 4 daughters. If this was a coach that I knew, I would pull him aside and have a man to man talk with him and would teach him that he has an obligation to our children to teach and mentor not to be an ignorant red neck.
By Cindy
October 22, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this
I don’t really care one way or the other about the topic at hand but I seriously take issue with the funding of the new Green Library.
It’s not the time to do that crap right now. $5M County money for a library…with an artsy theme. That doesn’t translate into “thrifty” so why do it now?
Plus the grant from the state…puhleeze. All we hear is the governor wanting every department to cut their budget by 6%. Then why sent out grants for a library in the county that already has a most awesome library system?
In another year or two the awesomeness will not have dwindled to the point of embarassment or being defunct.
Apparently, our county administrators STILL don’t have a clue about cost-cutting or cost-saving measures. A great portion of it should be just plain and simple common sense.
Gwinnett Government people: ATTENTION…The best way to double your money is to fold it in half and put it back into your pocket. Stop the needless spending and run the county in an appropriate way during this time when it’s necessary to conserve and think ahead.
By Michael H. Smith
October 22, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this
I’m not interested in this diversionary blog either Cindy. Nice article ~ Gwinnett commission challengers want new direction ~ found its’ way into the Gwinnett section:
Bannister, who is in the midst of finalizing the 2009 budget, said in the face of the economic downturn, nothing is sacred. Every item is subject to cuts, he said.
Passariello, a part-time pilot for the Coast Guard with master’s degrees in business and engineering, is an engineer with Newton County. He said he has the technical and business background to govern the development of Gwinnett County.
“I’m just a regular guy,” Passariello said. “I’m a father. I’m a husband. I’m there for you to be fiscally responsible and show integrity for this office.”
Passariello criticizes Bannister’s record. All the money for police and roads, the challenger said, do not translate to a better Gwinnett.
“That’s just throwing money at problems,” he said. “I am an engineer. I look at problems with an analytical mind, then solve them.”
Passariello also claims not enough is being done to prohibit undocumented workers performing jobs for the county, an accusation Bannister denies.
“I speak Spanish,” Passariello said. “I go up and talk to these workers, and they tell me.”
In the race for the District 3 commission seat, Earl Hendon, 46, of Dacula, a project coordinator for Siemens, has set transportation as his key issue.
He said Gwinnett County needs to invest in alternative transportation, such as the proposed Brain Train that would run from Athens to Atlanta or some sort of light rail system. The idea, he said, would be to move people in more directions, more efficiently throughout the county.
“I believe this project will create jobs and give a lot of opportunities for Gwinnett residents,” Hendon said.
He added that his focus is to make the middle class more prosperous and that he regards open government as a must.
“What I’d like to do is set an example, have a transparent environment,” he said. “And I want you, the taxpayers, to hold me accountable.”
http://www.ajc.com/gwinnett/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/2008/10/22/gwinnett_commission.html
By Cindy
October 22, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this
Michael, I had in fact noticed your absence. I don’t exactly dislike this blog topic, as much as I just don’t feel anything at all about it. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
Of course, I’m also grown enough to know that everything isn’t about me. Usually. :)
But that library deal just burned me up when I read it. I mean, why? Why in the world would they go forward with that NOW? And their silly mugs in the photo looking all proud and stuff…pffttt. I scoff at the whole thing.
I had just read the article you refereced, about an hour or so ago. I am pretty sure at this point, that I’m voting for the democrat and against SPLOST.
I’ve tried to have a dialog with Bannister and he simply has no interest.
To quote BobG on Talk Gwinnett: “I guess the lesson to be learned is that, just because Bannister doesn’t know what is going on… doesn’t mean that it isn’t.”
http://www.talkgwinnett.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=553&Itemid=1
By Michael H. Smith
October 22, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this
Of course, I’m also grown enough to know that everything isn’t about me.
Oh really? Do you read this paper online? About how many times a day do visit this Website section in a day, Cindy? Or make that how many times a week?
It is more about selfish you and me than you think. The advertisers who pay the AJC certainly think in those terms. Cha-Ching- Cha-ching-ching $
As to why would they [the commission] go forward with the Library? I’d say the politics of pork - it is election time you know. Hey, mans gotta get votes best way he can.
Bannister knows what is going on Cindy and he plans to keep it going on in exactly the same fashion.
And so does Passariello, at least to this extent he does: Not enough is being done to prohibit undocumented workers performing jobs for the county, an accusation Bannister denies.
I happen to be an Independent. I do not belong to either or any political party. It is a little late but I’m going to e-mail Mr. P a way to do what Bannister will never do to end undocumented illegal aliens unauthorized to work on any job in this country from receiving county taxpayer money from county projects. At least those let out for bid by the BOC. The BOE which is another body would have to follow suit if the larger sum of our taxpayer heading south of the border is to be addressed.
Obliviously, Earl Hendon as well understands economics and setting priorities. In order to get the biggest bang for the taxpayer buck, all the money generated from “investing in core-infrastructure” needs made now by forgoing spending on entertainment and optional luxuries items will mean keeping all those monies here in this country in this county in the pockets of those do not send any of it to a foreign countries but rather spend their income right here at home - If the right county ordinance was put into place that would likely happen.
By The Forgotten Messiah.
October 23, 2008 7:23 AM | Link to this
There is one rule that would become obsolete with this girl playing football: 12 men on the field.
Also, instead of a huddle, we’d have to call it a cuddle.
Other than that, I see no downside to letting this girl play.
Go and fumble no more.
By BW
October 23, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
“prohibit undocumented workers performing jobs for the county”, didn’t Commissioner Greene stop this nasty deed with her air-tight ordinance? Why I can remember more than a few singing her praises?
Kickers don’t huddle and/or cuddle and hardly ever get hit, a killer penalty for doing so. Nice to see all the knowledge deplayed on football.
By Googily Moogily!
October 23, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
What if she was the Center? I bet the QB would use up every second of the playclock rubbing up and down on her non man thingie! Getting his hands all wet and sticking so he can hang on to the ball better!
By Michael H. Smith
October 23, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
Still singing those praises only the illegal alien supports made phony claims of air-tightness in ridicule.
Check your e-mail Mr. P add IRCA compliance to the message sent and you got about as much as can be done at a county level. The State should do the rest by enacting the same law Arizona enacted recently directed at employers that has withstood court challenge even in the most LIBERAL federal court of this land - the 9th. Add occupational licensing laws and changes denoting Citizenship on drivers licenses to make the entire process easier and that should do about as much as can be done at the state level. The federal government needs to move on permanent funding and mandatory use of E-verify. One Senator needs to act in the interest of America rather than his own ancestral interests. Work-site inspections by I.C.E. should be increased NOT done away with as Mr. Obama supports and intends to implement if elected.