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DEL.ICIO.USA word that shouldn’t be in anyone’s vocabulary
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I posed the subject the other night, while my son and a friend were watching Batman.
First, some background.
Last Sunday, on Fox News, vetted civil rights leader Jesse Jackson was caught on tape whispering to another guest crude comments about Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee. Obama, he lamented, was “talking down to black people.” Jackson said he wanted to “cut his (genitalia) off.”
Those comments alone are worthy of a 600-word column, but I wanted to talk to Miles and Jonathan about something else Jackson said during his microphone gaffe. In comments publicized days after the story first broke, he apparently used the “n-word.” It was in reference to the blacks that he was chiding Obama for talking down to.
And that’s what I wanted to talk to the boys about. That word. The n-word. The potency of it. The double standard that engulfs it. The ease in which some people - including some blacks - include it in their vocabulary.
No doubt, the most level-headed black person likely would pitch a fit, be outraged, up in arms, ready to apply fisticuffs, if a white person addressed them that way. Oddly, some of those same people have no problem saying it, being called that in good spirit by other blacks or tapping their toes to music that spews it lyrically.
The argument is that, when blacks use it, they claim ownership of it, deflower a “degenerative nickname” that - according to The African American Registry, a history website (www.aaregistry.com.) - dates to the early 1800s.
It’s a logic and explanation that rings hollow. You can dress it up in kindredship and use it as a defiant show of camaraderie all you want. You can call it a cultural signifier, distort its spelling, and attempt to give it street swagger and coolness.
Do all these things. Know what? It doesn’t trump its true meaning, its historical context, its symbolism and degradatory origins.
And because it’s so intertwined in the American psyche, we have Jackson, a prominent pundit, caught on a hot mic. Foot stuck in mouth. Using it. It’s an unfortunate yet teachable incident.
Two years ago, I wrote a column about a student calling my son the n-word when he was in fifth grade. At the time, Miles had never heard it, didn’t know really, its significance or what it meant. He surmised it was no compliment. He and I had a talk then.
On Thursday night, I used the Jackson situation to reiterate something he’s heard many times before, a topic I’ve written about in this space. I wanted to be certain that he, and his friend Jonathan, understand. Certain words, like some comments, are best left unsaid. This, to me, is one of them.
After the Jackson incident, a reader posted a comment in my blog saying that “all” blacks use the n-word, just that some do it in private. Nah. Not only does my family not use that particular word, we don’t ascribe similar terms to any group of people.
The Badies, as are many families regardless of skin color, better than that.
How about you?
Rick Badie’s column appears on Sundays, Tuesdays and Thursdays. Contact him at 770-263-3875 or e-mail: rbadie@ajc.com.
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By Mark
July 19, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
Jesse Jackson is a racist fool. And racism will always exist with the likes of him and Al Sharpton around. And the nogs are too ignorant to know it.
By Bert Marshall
July 19, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this
Excellent article. You make perfect sense.
By It's a stinking word you silly race baiter
July 19, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
The “n-word” has morphed into a stupid way for blacks to make whites feel guilty.
OK, so you got called the n-word 100 times as a kid. Many times by blacks.
And I got beat up 100 times because I was small. By both groups.
Which hurt more?
I’m sick of this. Privilidged blacks doing ANYTHING—ANYTHING to maintain race preferences over those who can’t afford to give them.
By Jon
July 19, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
What you really should have addressed with your column is the double standard that allows blacks to use this word while whites are chastised for it…I can cite numerous examples of this double standard in society. In turn, can you imagine the outrage if there were a “National Association for the Advancement of White People”? And the Hispanics have “La Rasa”. We have nothing like this nor are we allowed to. And when I check off a box on a form that asks for my race, why is there not one that allows me to designate myself as “European-American”?, or more precisely, the European country of my familial origin, e.g. Irish-American et al.. I don’t see many “blacks” that actually know their family’s roots let alone what African country from which they originated. I demand my hyphen.
Good column though, hopefully it will get people to think critically - at least the ones that actually know how to which are few and far between in the country.
By Grace
July 19, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
If it is ok for blacks to call themselves names (n word, etc.) that whites use to call them but not ok for the whites to say it, then I guess it will also be ok for whites to call themselves names that blacks use to say to whites and they will not be able to use the word? This can in fact apply to all races See (http://gyral.blackshell.com/names.html). I don’t for the life of me see how this will ever assist human kind in learning to coincide in peace together.
By MikeBTexas
July 19, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the article. Even if it sometimes seems you are saying the obvious they are important words to say. As a white male who was taught from an early age racism was wrong but who also grew up in the south and was exposed to those ideas I am greatful for level headed people like you and your family, and I do wish the Jesse Jacksons of the world and their older white counterparts would fade sooner rather than later into the history books…
By Some old white dude.
July 19, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
The fact that Jesse Jackson has been caught saying some terrible things, on a hot microphone, does not really effect my core opinion of him. He has done things many other things to discredit himself before this dubious “Hot Mic” even brought to you by the innocent Choir boys …at Fox news.
The thing that is most astonishing to is that we are on the precipice of an historic election, where an African American may become our next president, and I notice several (Prominent) black leaders, who are not comfortable with it.
Now, its not exactly realistic to assume that ALL Americans of African decent think as one… or that their politics agree with Obama’s. Think about it, do all whites think alike? Admittedly, they have been used to having more choice…. most candidates that run are white. Still, I expect more from these so called “Black Leaders”, now that there is an actual chance for some change.
I hope and pray everyday, that Obama will win, because I believe our constitution has been subverted by special interests. I hope he wins because I want to see this history, and the fruit I believe it will yield. This could be that burst of growth, that comes along every 30 years or so. Clearly, we need something to be hopeful about.
In my opinion, Jesse (and the others) need to either Lead, follow, or get out of the way, and let progress be made. Its not clear to me, that after all these years of fighting racism, that they really want to see this “sudden an surprising -burst of progress”. That is not really unusual, many such crusaders of causes, outlive their usefulness, and stay around too long.
My only wish is that Mr King were alive to see this. But - - I think he would also be disappointed by some things, not the least of which what Jesse has become.
I got a feeling if he were alive, Jesse would have faded away long ago.
By Tyler
July 19, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
Growing up in suburbia, I’ve found a few tell-tale signs of a racist.
One is complaining about the boxes on applications that ask for race, and how there’s no European-American box.
Just sayin’!
(another big one is complaining about how there’s no NAAWP)
Basically, when people are trying to hide their blatant bigotry, they hide behind irrelevant issues. At least, that’s been my experience. Not saying it applies to everyone.
All I know about the “n****” issue is that I don’t say it unless I’m singing along to N.W.A., and then it’s usually “n****”, right? There’s another cliched article you could do! The difference between “n****” and “n****”. Is there one? What is it? Who can use which? Oh, the kooky drama!
By Tyler
July 19, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Ah, wasn’t aware that the “n-word” would be censored. Assume that beneath those stars is the “-gger” and the “-gga”.
By Hilbillary
July 19, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
Poor old Jesse Jackson, a black man is stealing his show!
By Kaitlin Duck Sherwood
July 19, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Now hang on a sec. It does make perfect sense that blacks are allowed to use the n-word white whites, if you look at it as a status and relationship marker. If a white person calls a black person a n—, then that is emphasizing, “You are not like me, and people like me are higher status than people like you”
For a black person to say it to a black persion is to emphasize “We might be low-status, but you and I are like each other.”
A white person saying it to a black person is exclusive. A black person saying to a black person is inclusive.
The same goes for any form of perjorative: my gay and lesbian friends will use “d—-” and “f—”, but I as a straigt person cannot. Given they crap that they have to put up with from society, I can live with that.
By Jon
July 19, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
So you’re going to judge me because I ask for a checkbox, as if you actually know me personally? Then by your logic, all blacks are racist because they have their aforementioned checkbox. See how nice and tidy that is when your “logic” is applied?
BTW, I’m gay AND I grew up in the south so I know a little bit about discrimination and living with blacks…try having a president that tries to alter the constitution to SPECIFICALLY deny you rights and then come back to me.
Did you even read what I wrote and then examine it critically before spouting off? Hence, the problem of too many people in this country opening their mouths without actually having anything to say.
When certain groups demand their equal rights, what they fail to realize is that the group on the other side of their argument cannot be discriminated against as well - that’s where equal comes into play.
And finally, I’m sorry that consider NWA music. Try listening to some music that actually requires the brains and persistent dedication to learn an instrument - it greatly helps the processes of critical thinking and examination. Melody, try it.
But I guess you’re an expert on race since you grew up in suburbia…what a joke.
I’m just saying.
By mim
July 19, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
If black people want the “N” to go away, then stop using the word. The Jessie Jackson type should disappear with the word. If you have little children playing, and the black child uses the word, then you expect to punish the other child, who has just learned a new word? Jessie Jackson and the “N” represents a “A VICTIMIZED MENTALITY.”
By Tyler
July 19, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
Tee-hee. Calm down, whitey!
It’s all in fun. Some people take themselves a bit too seriously, no?
By Tyler
July 19, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
Tee-hee. Calm down, whitey!
It’s all in fun. Some people take themselves a bit too seriously, no?
Plus, come on, man. N.W.A. had talent, there’s no denying that. Plus, who else in gangster rap had the balls to sample Charles Wright?
But I mean, come on. You’re being a tad hypocritical, no? Judging my taste in music, because I mention a band I like? I guess I must’ve HATED Idina Menzel last night, because of her ridiculous talent as a vocalist. Weird, because I thought it was a great show. Though my “judgements” of you were jokes…
The problem with arguing on the internet is that…well, it’s stupid as hell, you know?
JUST SAYIN’!
By Willard
July 19, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
Bill Cosby said it first. “Black people are their own worst enemey”. The Cos was one of the first African Americans to chastise his own race of men for not taking care of their children and parent and mentor them. I would be interested in knowing his thoughts about this drama with Jackson and Obama.
By Grace
July 19, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Here is a email that i received the other day. I think some of you might have also received it. Look at where things are going. I deleted the offensive references to racist names that were in the original e-mail.
bet this doesn’t go very far on the email circuit.
Unfortunately, it is so very true......... Proud To Be White Someone finally said it. How many are actually paying attention to this? There are African Americans,Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc. ...And then there are just - Americans.You pass me on the street And sneer in my direction. You Call me Names..And that's OK. But when I call you names, .....You call me a racist.. You say that whites commit a lot Of violence against you, So why are the ghettos the most Dangerous places to live? You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Hispanic History Month. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Asian History Month. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have Yom Hashoah. You have Kawanza. You have the NAACP. And you have BET. If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) .....We'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day .....You would call us racists. If we had White History Month .....We'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites To 'advance' OUR lives, .....We'd be racists. We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, A Black Chamber of Commerce, And then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that? If we had a college fund that only gave White students scholarships .....You know we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly-proclaimed Black-only Colleges in the US , Yet if there were 'White-only Colleges' .....THAT would be a racist college. In the Million-Man March, You believed that you were Marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, .....You would call us racists. You are proud to be black, Brown, yellow and red, And you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride .....You call us racists. You rob us, Carjack us, And shoot at us. But, when a white police officer Shoots a black gang member Or beats up a black drug-dealer Who is running from the LAW and Posing a threat to ALL of society .....You call him a racist. I am proud. .....But, you call me a racist. Why is it that only Whites Can be racists? There is nothing improper about this e-mail. Let's see which of you Are proud enough to send it on...By Joe Mac
July 19, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
Why Stop Now I think this is simple. Rev. Jackson does not want the race issues to stop. If they did stop then he and old Al would be out of a job. On the same page, if there was not poor people then why would we need Democats to help. Another example, my wife had a hard time potty training our second child. It’s not that she was more difficult than our first but, my wife didn’t want her to grow up and be less dependent. We both learned from that and let our child grow up.
Now, it’s time for the blacks and poor to take over their own destiny and stop letting people hold them down. They are all killing each other and this country. Good Luck,it’s a tough road. I would rather change diapers for the rest of my life.
By MB
July 19, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
Personally, to hear Jesse Jackson speak this way saddens me, just as it saddened me to hear Obama’s preacher rant from the pulpit and then for it to take Obama so long to distance himself from the rhetoric.
As long as leaders who choose to represent the African American community fail to rise above the name calling, ranting and hate speech - African Americans will find it more difficult to assimilate in a multi-cultural nation and European Americans will find it more difficult to take the contemporary concerns of African Americans seriously.
A nation where {we - black and white and other) will not be judged by the color of (our) skin but by the content of (our) character? If that is a goal that these African American leaders want to still foster, they should practice it more often toward all people.
By Grace
July 19, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
There is more at risk in this election than any other election in our history. This is why it is important to vote for the candidate most qualified for the position. My concerned is folks will be voting based on race and or ethnic culture. (All parties included). I personally vote for the person who I feel is most qualified no mater of race, color or sex. I take no issue for anyone voting if they truly feel in their hearts that the candidate is the most qualified. No matter what the out come of this and all things may be, everything will occur in accordance with God and what has already been written and “NO ONE” can change that. The election is already decided so I guess I should not be concerned how anyone votes. (Smile).
By Tyler
July 19, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
I hope you’re talking about the Illuminati, because they’re really messing with us pretty hard, lately.
By Greg
July 19, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
Saying “the “N Word” is the exact same thing as saying the whole word. It will never die or lose its importance because the black community does not want to lose it, as long as it exists in some form, it will be used as a weapon against or an excuse against the white community. We cannot forget our past or we are doomed to repeat it, but not letting go of all of the hurts laid upon us, keeps us in the past and gives us no future.
By Every Color
July 19, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
I am so glad you wrote this article. I also took Jackson’s words as a moment to again teach my children a lesson some may never learn. I am white, my husband black, and between us (from previous relationships and together), we have 5 children colored from white to black. Together we are beautiful, never using foul names to refer to eachother, and others soon realize (mostly from my childrens own mouth) that behavior like that is unnacceptable. Our children form our future. More families, regardless of race, are starting the wave of the future. I’m proud to say my children are looking through skin color and past circumstances to make a differences. Everything starts small, have hope!
By Kristine
July 19, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this
There are so many derogatory words we use in non-derogatory ways every day. Girlfriends throw the word “b**ch” at each other all the time. How come that’s okay, but if you call me one it’s not ok? It’s not so much the word but how it’s being used, I think is what it all comes down to. Getting back to the original thought in the artical though, Rev Jackson suggesting “castrating” someone for behavior he doesn’t agree with—FAR worse than the N word.
By Josh
July 19, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this
Jessie Jackson is just jealous of the fact Barrack Obama is stealing his plunder an getting more attention than he is getting. He and Al Sharpton are on a mission and want the recognition Obama is getting. Jackson and Sharpton don’t want to solve the racial problems, they want to dwell on them. If they solved them, they would be out of a job. Heaven forbid.
By ChipGuyATL
July 19, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Well, Mr. Badie, I tip my hat to you, sir. I’m just happy that finally someone told it like it is.
I don’t agree with your column all the time, but you’ve earned my respect, sir!
PS: Whoever wrote, “Tee-hee. Calm down, whitey!” is a douche, indeed.
By Steve
July 19, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this
I was in the 4th grade the first time I heard the n—— word. This was also the first time I realized there were blacks (negro back then) in the world. I did not know the difference or what it ment. When I used it around my dad, after I picked up myself form the other side of the room, he told me that there were white n——, black n——, red n—-, brown n——, and yellow n——s in the worl. The term ment that the individual was lazy and expected everything given to them. Since that day I have always looked at the n—- word that way. There will always be a double standard until Americans of African desent stop using it with in there own enviornment.
By Andrew Austin
July 19, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this
A double standard is when a different standard is applied in or to the same situation. A double standard is not when the same standard is applied in or to different situations. The latter move often results in an injustice. Because whites using the word against blacks is a different situation than blacks using the word around other blacks, different because of the history of racial power and group segmentation, different in its usage, the same standard does not apply. It’s like the difference between a straight guy calling a gay guy a “queer” to degrade him and a gay guy calling another gay guy a “queer” to play with a hurtful word. It’s a different situation therefore the same rule doesn’t apply. No double standard has occurred. Frankly, I don’t know why so many people do already know this. Convenient feigned ignorance, you suppose?
By Your Grace
July 19, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this
There is only one America and only one American. No hyphens or colors or ancestral disclaimers required.
When the word race is properly applied no one will have to suffer the human indignity of being forced into any stupid minuscule box.
The only way racism and all things racial, including the use of all ethnic based slurs will ever end is when race is no longer given any place in America.
There is no greater blatant bigotry for anyone to hide behind than an ethnocentric organization. For all ethnocentric organizations in time seek a separate exclusive power over others which they do not possess.
By Vale
July 19, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this
Jesse Jackson (and Al Sharpton) are not ‘civil rights leaders’ by any stretch of the imagination. They are parasites on the very community they profess to serve.
They spend their time screaming about injustices done to blacks, while taking ‘donations’ from them that are then spent on expensive cars, clothes, homes, and other luxuries.
Jackson’s recent comments prove that he is a hypocrite as well.
Both ‘men’ (and I use that term very loosely) should be shunned by the community and politicians alike, and stripped of any ‘honors’ they’ve accrued in their ‘careers’. In addition, they should be firmly and deservedly placed in the history books as the racist criminals they are.
By Brian
July 19, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this
The “N” word is terible no matter who says it. When whites say it, it is degrading, and let me tell you, no matter how you justify it, when blacks say it to blacks, it is degrading. And now the “N” word has some hidden faternal meaning. As a white man when I hear it, I shake my head and think, why continue to revive such a vile word in any context.
Now from personal experience, I have found the blacks MUCH more racist. Truthfully, I am tired of hearing about it, I have black friends, I have black neighbors. But only the ones that are able to treat ME as an equal, not the other way around, are in my circle of friends.
I hope Obama wins, only because maybe, just maybe everyone will shut up live because there is nothing left to prove.
Blacks, stop killing each other and blaming it on social/economic hardships. YOU now have thriving communities, good schools, good leadership, take responsibility for your own actions and lift that old beat down boulder off your shoulder. (for example, the city of atlanta and dekalb county are almost entirely black leadership, who’s to blame for gangs, schools etc? And take credit for the good things happening there as well)
And whites, now you are prejudice against the prejudice blacks, well, tough! There will always be haters, love the lovable.
Can’t we all just get along?
By KIM
July 19, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this
The use of the word sends a message that it is OK to use it by whomever uses it. The word is filth. It should be eliminated from everyone’s vocab. And to the people who use it: shame on you for turning your back on forefathers who paid a price for the sentiment behind it. Surely your mother taught you better. If she didn’t, shame on her. If she did, go home and ask her to forgive you for such an embarrassment to the family.
By sam
July 19, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this
Have any of you listened to teenagers these days?
We’re all taking the use of this word from the context of OUR generation. These kids today use it non-stop - and I mean kids of all colors!
They don’t see anything wrong with it. Why should they? It’s in the music they listen to, the TV they watch. These kids have no clue what civil rights struggles were. They have no idea about racial intolerance - and that’s a good thing.
Kids today are more culturally bigoted than racially bigoted. They don’t care about your color - it’s are you a hoodlum, or a punk; a jock or a redneck.
My son and his friends - of all colors call each other that word all the time - and they mean it in a friendly way. I was outraged the first time I heard them doing it and yelled at them - and they all just looked at me - what was I getting upset about?
They don’t relate any negative meaning to it. Maybe that really is the best way to get rid of the word; don’t attach any significance to it and it won’t be a big deal.
But, as old as I am, I’ll always hate the word - because I remember what it meant.
By Grace
July 19, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this
Call me conspiracy minded but could this be a ploy by Jackson and others to create a new high level, outburst, of violence and prejudice so that by the November elections everyone would be more incline to vote for Obama just to calm the waters and to silence individual’s statements of prejudice. I am already seeing signs of this with some of the statements above and elsewhere. I have a hard time believing that Jackson didn’t know his microphone wasn’t on, especially when he has been on microphones for years. Why would he share that info with the other commentator when he should know that you can’t trust anyone these days?
By Ms Tucker If Ur Nasty
July 19, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this
Why is this incessant bleating from whites allowed to continue? Jessie Jackson, Al sharpton, or Wayne Brady for that matter don’t speak for 35 million black people in America, we think individually for the most part, just like y’all do. It is so tiresome to hear about how old Jessie made a fool of himself, as if to say he made fools of all black people, and then when Don Imus or some well known white person does the same thing, it doesn’t resonate through the entire white race. I’m only one person, but believe me, there are scores of others who know where you are coming from, when innuendo, and code phrases are employed, we know when we’re being stereotyped,please stop, it doesn’t become you, it’s ugly and stupid.
By Brian
July 19, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this
I think Jackson has to stir the pot in order justify his own existance, his usefulness to the black community is long gone, he is now just a black eye on the black community. If he really wanted to help his black community, he would shut up and go away. In my experience, people truly want color out of the picture. Even white people want to judge a person not by his color, but by his character. Black americans do not hold a exclusive right to his dream. Jesse, stop reminding me there is color in the world, just when I am feel truly color blind, you pop up and remind me you are black.
By Ms Tucker If Ur Nasty
July 19, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this
To Jon @ 1:39, let me try to explain something from a black perspective. Who sits in the cat bird seat as far as rights and entitlements is debatable, some would say whites have by far the largest lead. Blacks in America typically know very little of their heritage because that was systematically denied information for our ancestors, as was the opportunity to seek an education. The NAACP was formed in 1905, at a time when blacks really needed to stick together for safety reasons.
By Beautiful
July 19, 2008 11:55 PM | Link to this
white folks y’all just itchin’ to use the word nicca huh? mad cause you can’t say it! for those who are upset, consider yourself a racist. that’s a dayum shame!
why can’t i say it and they can? you sound like a fvckin’ 5 yr. old.
By Fresh Perspective
July 20, 2008 12:52 AM | Link to this
I have reviewed the posts in this forum.
It would appear that a number of posters who do not normally post here are doing so, and in the defense of the unacceptable behavior that is the subject of this article/blog today.
This is most unfortunate.
By Michael H. Smith
July 20, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
It is kind of ironic in the sick sort of way how discussions like this one are always oblivious to the obvious. There really isn’t anything to talk about when the subject is some slur directed at someone’s ancestry. It’s wrong, period.
What is truly outrageous in this latest public outburst in American society that goes far beyond the “N” word is the failure of the American people in complaining of double standards. That is an insult to truth that is lying on reality.
The standards that we use, if they can be called “standards”, are rotten.
By KY Rands
July 20, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Rick, I enjoy your column. It is insightful, intelligent and refreshing. This column was no exception. I’m white, married with one daughter, and a middle class gwinnettian. This topic of the use of the “n” word is one that has come up a lot lately. Similarly to your son, my daughter had never heard the word before a friend of her grandma’s used it during a visit many years ago. I would likely have never known except that my daughter asked me later what it meant. Of course I explained its derogatory nature in words a 6 year old could understand (“bad word”—never say it, etc) and scolded my mother for letting it be said in front of my daughter. The next time she heard it was in different context. A few years later, a 10 year old black boy called her “white n——” on the bus—she was 9. We weren’t sure how to handle it…go to the parents, talk to the boy…was it a compliment in that age group’s world??. It was during the time that Ice Cube was doing the Black/White show and those black parents were so upset to hear that their son routinely used the n-word—and the white kids he was hanging out with as “white” kid were shocked he used it. I asked another mom (black) of a young girl at the bus stop—also neighbors to the family this boy came from… went something like this “I think this is bad, but you never know these days, when a black kid calls another kid “white n…” is that bad?” She looked at me like I had 3 eyes, “Yes that is bad, it is always bad.”
I give this long history to set the context of my opinion that from a generational standpoint, it is crystal clear for the Black Americans that experienced the segregation and the civil rights movement first hand—and in many ways continue to experience subtle and overt racism in their daily lives. As the next generation tries to give it “street swagger, coolness, or kindness” in their attempt to take back control of a word, the real risk is that same generation and the one coming on its heels, has no sensitivity to the real harm of the word, and its history. Their only context will be the swagger, coolness, twisted kindness of the current context in which it used. They think their teachers, parents, —the boomer generation —that think the n-word is bad are just archaic and out of touch. Then you have whites using it, yes as a racial epitaph when it is clearly reflective of their opinions (think my Mom’s friend and “Kramer”), but in some cases to be cool and hip, and they never know what hits them (think Imas) until they wake up and find they are a pariah in the media. Of all people, you’d think Jesse Jackson would have known better.
There is a positive movement, where the baby boomers of the black community are putting their foot down and demanding their peers and the next generation to be accountable. When Clarence Thomas first took that position, people scratched their heads (not about the coke can incident), it was unfamiliar to hear a prominent and accomplished black man talk publically about responsibility and accountability that way. Of late, Bill Cosby has been leading the charge. And now with our first Black President eminent, and his position very clear and as Cynthia Tucker pointed out in her column, Jesse Jackson’s comments was inadvertently a good thing for Obama because his position about accountability and responsibility —- family values —- may have been lost in the sound bites, but now it was front and center. It wasn’t Newt Gingrich trying to hijack the family value platform as the least likely poster boy for good family values, but instead it was a family man with proof in the pudding, good marriage and lovely daughters, who could be our next president, and oh by the way is black. The “n” word issue won’t go away any time soon, but at least the generation that can do the most to wake up and stop the de-synthesizing of the n-word and any other racial epitaph, is becoming more and more aware. Blunders by Imas trying to be cool, and Jackson just being stupid; cutting edge shows that illustrate the conflict like Ice Cube’s Black/White, bring it into the living rooms so concerned parents can have that conversation with their children as you have, and I have. Awareness, begets action, begets change. —-Maybe this issue can be a catalyst for us all to talk more respectful…. Fox news casters won’t call female presidential candidates (Clinton) or future first ladies (Heinz) the B-word, or even worse, Michelle “Obama’s baby mama”. But that is fodder for another day….
By LT5000
July 20, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
So much for a hard hitting Badie column.
He completely ignored Jesse Jackson’s use or the N word and his racist past.
What does that say about Badie? He a gutless worm too scared to take on the leadership of the African American community.
His article is pure crap. He didn’t even address Jackson’t other comment.
Fortunatley, the AJC is imploding and the Gwinnett section will be gone.
It’s 3rd rate hacks like Badie that have helped turn the AJC into one of America’s worst newpapers.
AJC editors your circulation is diminishing because you hire hacks like Badie. Get some real journalists, not Obama hacks, and your circulation will increase.
LT5000
By Lee
July 20, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
What’s this mythical “n-word” you keep referencing? I looked in the dictionary and there are thousands of words that begin with the letter n.
The way you talk, if someone merely utters this “n-word”, then something bad will befall this person - sorta like when those soldiers melted away in Indiana Jones Raider of the Lost Ark.
And apparently, negroes have developed an immunity to this “n-word.” If they say it, nothing happens. If fact, they say it all the time and even use it in their so called rap music. This something bad only happens when a caucasion says it.
By Mark
July 20, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Want the definition of the word “n****”? Check out the jail dockets in any county in GA.
By Tyler
July 20, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
What the hell’s a “caucasion”?
Sorry. It’s just that you’re so smart and witty and clever, that I expected you to be able to spell.
My bad!
Anyway, when it all comes down to it, its a personal issue. However the word effects one person, and that person’s way of handling it.
Sure, plenty of youth, and even adults, are desensitized to it. While racism still abounds in America, toward whites and blacks and everyone else, it’s not the 1950s. Young black teenagers don’t have to worry about being lynched. They aren’t being called n**** in public anymore. And plenty aren’t empathetic toward those in the past.
I am of the opinion that a word has as much power as you give it. And this is a tough one to let go of. But eventually the word itself will be irrelevant. Everyone will remember that it was derogatory, but no one will care. Whether that’s good or bad is, again, up to the individual. But it’s bound to happen.
Carpetbagger!
By Grace
July 20, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Google: (Jesse Jackson Remarks) and you will see that everyone is discussing this situation, not just ajc.
By the way, what about the rest of Jesse’s remarks that were not mentioned in reference to cutting off Obama’s privates following the n word in that same video?
Cutting off his privates is not a language for a Preacher to use no mater what color you are.
I believe that “EVERYONE” should be called on the carpet for unacceptable remarks no mater if you Black, White, Green, Purple, Republican, Democrat, Independent, Male, Female, Gay, etc., etc.
How else can they be affected, re-educated and held accountable for their behavior without any consequences for their actions?
By BLACKS OUT OF CONTROL
July 20, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
THANKS OBAMA FOR SCOLDING BLACK MEN, THEY ARE OUT OF CONTROL 5 KIDS WITH 4 WOMEN.
BLACKS ARE 14% OF THE TOTAL POPULATION AND HAVE OVER 50 % OF ALL AIDS CASES( HEARD OF CONDOMS) THEY ARE SPREADING S.T.D.S LIKE WILD FIRE.
By BLACKS OUT OF CONTROL
July 20, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
THANKS OBAMA FOR SCOLDING BLACK MEN, THEY ARE OUT OF CONTROL 5 KIDS WITH 4 WOMEN.
BLACKS ARE 14% OF THE TOTAL POPULATION AND HAVE OVER 50 % OF ALL AIDS CASES( HEARD OF CONDOMS) THEY ARE SPREADING S.T.D.S LIKE WILD FIRE.
By Bruce Wilcox
July 20, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
Do Blacks own the right to use the “N” , YES. If any Whites use that word, well they have made the choice and will probably have to face the consequences.
I’m Irish , a Mick, back in days of old in New York you defended the slur with fists, yet you were proud to call others of your group the same. It applies to every ethnic group there is.
Do not knock someone till you live generations in their shoes, the first step is understanding or at least attempting to.
It seems many here have forgotten the Jesse Jackson of old, he did a lot for the Civil Rights movement, he was with Dr. King when he was murdered by a backwards White boy. He helped get United States citizens held as hostages released from a foreign land. He was brave enough to dare run for President, first time for a Black.
I don’t know what has happened to him the last decade or so, maybe age, but when anyone of you could can say you accomplished half of what Jesse Jackson has, then and only then can you be taken seriously.
By Grace
July 20, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
Hi Mic, I guess that we can agree to disagree with each other, although I respect your opinion. That might have been true for you, but not for me. I am Italian and we also have names that we were called, like Ginni, Whop, etc. Not only did we not enjoy being called those names, but we did not call each other those names.
Your correct that we must recognize the good as well as the bad, but we should also not ignore the bad because of the good that someone has done.
A person must be accountable for ALL they do, Good & Bad.
We can attempt to judge folks, but let’s not forget that it is the judgment of God that we must be most concern about.
By Grace
July 20, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
Hi Bruce, I apologize for the word that I used for your name. I look up to see you name and saw the M word and thought that was your name. I never new until just now that that was a name that was used against you. I will surly remember it from now on. please forgive me.
By Michael H. Smith
July 20, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Jesse Jackson in my opinion is worthless. Enough said about him.
I’m Creek and Irish, along with a few other ancestral parts. Even if you are Indigenous or Irish don’t call me Injun or Mick. I am an American. Again, enough said.
By Bruce Wilcox
July 20, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this
Grace, not a problem, like I said it was used in the distant past. I’m also French-Canadian and Potawatomi, we were called Canucks as late as the 50’s as a slur, now it’s a hockey team. Things change over the years, my great grand mothers wedding picture in her Indian robes was never displayed when I was young, too embarrassing.
People have to move on and stop dwelling on old news, it will change over time without anyone’s help.
“Again, enough said.”?
By What about this
July 20, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this
My daughter and her husband were in a local restaurant … the server was black and those sitting on either side of them were black. Their food was brought to their table after the folks on either side them who happened to come in after they did. Their food was cold and when they complained they overheard the server tell the folks next to them that they were “honkies” . . !!! Racism doesn’t exist just among whites and in my way of thinking there is absolutely no . . I say no . . justification for blacks to be exempt from the same standard they expect from other races.
By Andre
July 20, 2008 11:56 PM | Link to this
Hey Bruce Wilcox. I really like you man. That made so much sense, and I feel that’s the best way to explain it to people.
By What about this
July 21, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
In response to: “By Tyler July 20, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this What the hell’s a “caucasion”? Sorry. It’s just that you’re so smart and witty and clever, that I expected you to be able to spell. My bad! Anyway, when it all comes down to it, its a personal issue. However the word effects one person, and that person’s way of handling it.”
Hey Tyler . . you’re not so bright . . it isn’t “effects” one person . . it’s “affects” one person… duh!!!
Where did you get your GED???
By What about this
July 21, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
I think the AJC instead of doing away with the local metro sections …they should instead do away with all their staff writers … and their various opinions. Who cares what these individuals think. I rather read about the local news that affects me directly than a bunch individuals blurting out their opinions. The AJC needs to get back to impartially reporting the news. Let the readers decided what their opinions are.
By James D. Newman
July 21, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
I don’t think that I am “better” than any word. I also don’t think that anyone is served by making any word or idea taboo for any reason. Language and thought must never be regulated for any reason no matter how well intentioned. The natural progression for the “N-word” will be to broaden out as a general signifier of dislike, usable by anyone and against anyone. That is the way it is going now, mirroring the broader (slow and incomplete) merging of white and black experience, and the recognition of the fact of oppression and hatred and the need to overcome those things as a universal human issue, and not one limited to the dialog between any two races. I think of John Lennon’s beautiful poetic line “Woman is the n**** of the world” — is there any reason to rob our language of a word which touches on so much truth and pain? Which captures so perfectly the gap between knowing that one is human, and having that humanity denied?
By jim d
July 21, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Here’s what Ron Dellumss had to say re: the N word, in a letter to John Lennon back when there was a great deal of controversy over Lennons Recording of “Woman is the n**** of the world”
“If you define ‘n****’ as someone whose lifestyle is defined by others, whose opportunities are defined by others, whose role in society are defined by others, then Good News! You don’t have to be black to be a ‘n****’ in this society. Most of the people in America are ‘n****’.
By Katie
July 21, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
I’m from N.California, we don’t use that word out there—period!!! That word is not acceptable for anyone to use. I’m also sick of darker population calling me white. I’m as white as they are black. We’re caucasion, NOT white. They are different shades of brown, NOT black. I am also sick of this ‘I’m an African American’ thing. If you were born here you are an American, plain and simple. I don’t walk around calling my self an Irish, German American. Colored people shouldn’t use the N-word and nobody else should either Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are racists, they hurt their fellow man just as today’s KKK hurts caucasions. Both groups are losers.
By WhoCares
July 21, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
Pretty Simple really, If people want the “N” word to go away all they have to do is quit being offended by it.
By Michael H. Smith
July 21, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
In conclusion Mr. Badie, my thoughts are as yours on this issue. Nothing endears hate like an ethnic slur, no matter who uses it. When we all speak on the level of our human intelligence and make our judgments of others based solely on the content of their individual character without using arbitrary things common to all humanity: Like skin-color and ancestral origins, perhaps then we can speak of standards. When we cease to give Race any place in America, then and only then, will Race, Racism and Racial discrimination end.
Those words too, the “R” words, besmirch each us to deprive all of us of our shared family relationship as human beings.
Enough said, period?
By WhoCares
July 21, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Did I just see the “C” word?..oh Lord help us now…..
By Mark
July 21, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
The word n**** would disappear if you people would simply stop referring yourselves as such. And any nog that calls me a honkey gets a punch in the mouth. It wouldn’t be the first time.
By Mark
July 21, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
People, check out the jail docket @ scangwinnett.com. The answers are there , even in pictures for the illiterates in this county.
By Fresh Perspective
July 21, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
To whoever wrote:
“white folks y’all just itchin’ to use the word nicca huh? mad cause you can’t say it! for those who are upset, consider yourself a racist. that’s a dayum shame!”
You posts are void of intellect, irrelevant, and you are a douche!
Thanks for not contributing one positive thing. Yeah, that helps things a lot.
By Ash
July 21, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
The comments here are repulsive and are representative of SOME white people’s elitist and self-entitlement issues.
You don’t have a need for a white television station or a white history month. Your history and your experience is the cloth of our lives. We see it every day from a variety of angles. We watch Friends, Seinfeld, etc.
Minorities have not become a part a fabric of this nation. Our history and experiences are warped by the white people in power, making our lives one-dimensional and mostly negative.
Case in point: If you think all blacks are uneducated, poor, etc. it’s because you’ve been watching too much one-sided television. Open your mind. Read a book by an AFAM or Hispanic author. Watch the Cosby’s, A Different World or Fresh Prince. Step out side of yourselves and your own experiences. Go to a black history museum. Learn about our good stories - there are a lot of them out there.
Also, Barack Obama has NOT used his race to win the Democratic nomination (and hopefully the presidency). He didn’t need to. The mainstream media has done that job for him. He’s spoken on the topic 2 or 3 times. The media is the one that beats it into our heads incessantly!
By Jake
July 21, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
Not to add too much to the fray here, but in college, I had a teammate who called me “white boy”. I called him, “black boy” right back a few times.
Funny thing was that nobody ever got upset when I got called anything, but a few fights got started whenever I responded to him. They said it was b/c the word “boy” coming from the mouth of a white guy was the same as me saying “n*”. That never made sense. It still doesn’t.
Can anyone clarify?
By Mark
July 21, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
Jais
I could party with you. You make alot of sense……
By Ash
July 21, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
Jake,
It’s because white people used to call black men “boy” as a means of disrespect. Basically, black men weren’t men. They were nothing more than children that needed to be told what to do and how to do it.
While I understand the concern in calling your black friend “boy” I think it may have been a bit overzealous, since it was an understanding that both of you were being playful….
By woodie
July 21, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
To me this has always been an issue of respect. If you are a black American and call anyone the n-word you disrespect the black race. When I hear this, my first impression is the person lacks character. He is trying to draw attention to himself at the expense of his race. Jesse Jackson disrespects his own race by using racist commments. I didn’t hear him apoligize to the black community. Perhaps he’s arrogant to boot.
By WhoCares
July 21, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
Some people look for any excuse to be offended because they the think the world owes them something.
By Bruce Wilcox
July 21, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this
WhoCares, I’m sure you meant to include every race or culture in that statement, am I right?
By Tim
July 21, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this
Dr. King was not happy with Jesse Jackson when he was alive. I believe Andrew Young told the story where he said that Dr. King told Jesse that he just didn’t get it. He said something like, This isn’t about you Jesse. I have no doubt that Dr. King would roll over in his grave if he could see how Jesse Jackson has kept his people living below the standard just for his own personal gain. Jesse Jackson is an extortionist, plain and simple. He has NEVER done anything to help his race. He only gets involved when he can get something for himself.
By Tyler
July 21, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this
Jesse Jackson has done a lot to help his race. More than most. Just not recently. Get learned!
By From where I stand
July 21, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this
Whites comprise 75% of the U.S. population and commit 300% of all mass murders. Of the 23,000,000 mega tons of meth smoked in trailer parks across the heart land, 21,000,000 mega tons of it is consumed by white males between the ages of 18-25. Everytime a suburban house wife of a particular persuaison comes up missing, its the “loving, devoted husband” that is the culprit 86% of the time. Lastly, when Caitlyn gets pregnant at 13, Josh will be forced to marry her for a period of 3 years to make things look right 93% of the time.
By Len
July 21, 2008 11:29 PM | Link to this
Always love your perspective Rick. Sorry to hear about your son’s incident.
By Katie
July 22, 2008 5:46 AM | Link to this
Get Learned… LOL, now there’s the English language being used at its best.
From Where I stand: Ever read statistics? Try reading up on prison population statistics. Also, you can’t have more than 100%—just a little hint for you.
By Betty
July 22, 2008 6:23 AM | Link to this
As a white woman, I think this is all about respect. I would never use that word to describe a black person because I was brought up to respect ALL people. I think that this all goes back to that word RESPECT … this is a nation that is being raised without respect for mothers, fathers, siblings and each other. We better get back to the basics or we will implode.
By Sayme
July 22, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
Ash, you said it all. All these bickering and selfish ways of thinking is totally uncalled for. Folks get a life at times you treat your dogs better than humans. Get out of your bubble and get to know someone other than your own race it would help you a lot. Jesse and Al are no good scums.. I would not waste my time on people like these, they let down their own race. Have a nice day y’all.
By What about this
July 22, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
Ash … blah, blah, blah! Same ol’excuses. Sayme . . same thing for you, too! Your race has it so much better than your ancestors and all you do is want more and more . . All I ever hear is “we’ve made lots of progress but there is still work to be done. Quite honestly blacks are the elitist race now and they will never be satisfied. The Civil Rights movement gave the black race the full steam ahead ok to complain, take all the entitlements they can and teach their children to disrespect whites. Whites are oppressed. And, I’m sure you are very “happy” about that and will be even more happy in years to come. Squashing the use of the “N” word doesn’t squash the thoughts in people’s minds. And, insofar as getting out of our bubbles and mixing with other races . . why do blacks congregate together … why don’t they mix with other races. The answer … they want it both ways …in every aspect of their lives. Example. Miss America contest/Miss Black America contest.
By From Where I Stand
July 22, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
I know a lot more about statistics than you want to hear about, the 300% was for “Shock and Awe” effect. If everyone were in jail that gets off because daddy has money and influence, the stats would be a lot different. Poor people pay a heavy price for being, poor I guess.
By Tim
July 22, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this
I think you pay a heavy price for being dumb as hell.
By From Where I Stand
July 22, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this
Tim, go suck a rancid ostrich egg. I’ll play intellectual peek-a-boo with you any- time you like, be prepared to lose mon ami.
By Tim
July 26, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
I just can’t help but be saddened by how much the priceless words of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. have been ignored and misused. In his “I Have a Dream Speech” he said he wanted his children to be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. Yet, everytime a black person gets judged by the content of their character, the excuses start flying. I could care less what color you are. But when the content of your character is lacking, expect to be judged. It may not be right to judge others, but that is just how it is. Rick, you need to do an article on the words of MLK and see what your people think he meant. I see SO many ways he was right, and at the same time SO many more ways that Black Folk completely ignored his words. Their usual answer to that is that White people shouldn’t even be able to mention his name; like what he said can only have meaning for them. Its time to wake up and smell the coffee. White people aren’t killing Black Folk. You are killing each other.
By Milking MLK
July 26, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this
Tim, your ideas can be summarized as not only do Black Folk get judged by their skin, (they’re black after all), they also come up “black” if you change the criteria to “content of character”?
If only you had been available to edit “Mein Kampf”. Aryan would be so much more appreciated these days.
I dream of a world in which the power of words is respected by all.
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