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DEL.ICIO.USWarning: Ignorance of law is not an excuse
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
They probably think it’ll never happen to them. That they’ll never get a DUI or do time for consuming and possessing drugs and alcohol.
After all, they are teenagers - naive about the law, the judicial system, consequences perhaps.
Sunday night, about 60 students and parents attended a frank, graphic presentation on drug use, alcohol and sex at Tucker First United Methodist Church. Atlanta attorney Steven Ashby and Jim Anderson, municipal judge for the city of Sandy Springs, didn’t sugarcoat.
“Everyone of you could be tried as an adult for certain crimes,” said Ashby, the first speaker. “There are numerous teens sitting in jail as we speak. These children are your age.”
He touched on a number of scenarios and applicable laws.
“If you take one swallow [of booze], you have possessed alcohol,” he said. “You can be arrested, convicted and serve 12 months for alcohol consumption.”
Parents throwing parties for children is more common than you think, he said. “That parent is guilty of a felony. If you are at a party like this, leave the party. Don’t leave it by slipping away. Let somebody know. That way you have an alibi.”
The session mirrored a blueprint provided by J. Tom Morgan, a child advocate and former DeKalb County district attorney. He realized teenagers don’t know the law and wrote a self-published book, “Ignorance Is No Defense: A Teenager’s Guide to Georgia Law.” (It’s available at www.ignoranceisnodefense.com/).
What I liked about Ashby and Anderson’s presentation was the nod to its limitations. They acknowledged that they could talk till they were blue in the face about right and wrong, what to do and what to avoid.
Ultimately, though, they know there’s this thing we have - me, you, teens. It’s free will. The way we exercise control over our actions and decisions. We know it’s wrong to do any number of things. Sometimes, we still do it.
Anderson told the teens that some of them would try their luck, tempt fate.
“Which one of you wants to be the patient because of drinking and driving?” he asked. “Which one of you wants to be the next. Who will be the next? You think you’re special because you’re young, that you have great reflexes and good tires. That you’re better. So you think it’s not going to happen to me.”
At UGA, friends and I celebrated my 21st birthday with Coke and rum, 151-proof. I woke up at some point in the night because Jeff, my roommate, was tapping on my shoulder. I was vomiting in my sleep, choking. It’s a story I’ve shared with my son many times. Just so he knows.
Amanda Henley, Tucker First’s youth minister, put together Sunday’s “Teen and the Law” program. It was a timely event. Over the weekend, a teen church member was involved in a car accident that left one boy paralyzed and another comatose. It’s unclear what caused the accident. The church member wasn’t seriously injured.
“They think nothing is going to happen to them, when it very well can,” Henley said. “They are just as likely to die as an 85-year-old.”
Rick Badie’s column appears on Sundays, Tuesdays and Thursdays. Contact him at 770-263-3875 or e-mail: rbadie@ ajc.com.
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By T
May 6, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
It’s a sad thing when a young person’s life is ruined for something as simple as having a beer and getting behind the wheel.
I was recently standing in line at a sporting goods store when I overheard the young cashier talking about the car race he was in the night before.
He told the young person he was waiting on that he was doing well over 100 mph and beat the other guy.
As a father of 3-boys and 50 years on this earth I couldn’t resists giving the lad a little council when it was my time to check out.
I asked him, “How old are you?” 18 was the response. I went further, “I heard your story of your race last night. Do you realize if you or your friend had wrecked and injured or killed someone you would probably go to jail for several years? Also, if you were my son and I heard a report about you racing, I would take your license from you immediately.”
I received a blank stare. My final words to him was, “you may think you’re bullet proof, let me tell you a couple of stories of some people I’ve known, in case your parents never got around to it …
I don’t know if I got through to him, but I tried …
By Katie
May 6, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
I’d say it’s Natural Selection. Our gene pool needs some chlorine anyway. There’s a lot of really dumb people out there doing very dumb things. Those may be harsh things to say but I believe them. When I was growing up, there were try outs for teams—you didn’t get on the team just because you had a heartbeat, we played bare foot in the Summer (sometimes stepping on things that we needed shots for), playing on ‘real’ jungle gyms with tanbark underneith. We were exposed to things that made us stronger and have better immune systems. These days, kids are protected from everything, even the helpful bacterias that make their immune systems stronger. Kids today only get to play with toys that won’t kill them. What ever happened to common sense? Don’t put toys in your mouth and try to eat them!!! We didn’t swallow toys or suck on them, we were taught right. Not saying that there weren’t any stupid people from my generation, but I’m sure many were weeded out—just as this needs to be done today. Survival of the fittest!!!!
By Blogger
May 6, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Dude…just another terrible subject for a blog courtesy of Rick “the moron” Badie and his merry bad of liberal milkweed lobbyists.
By reader
May 6, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
Great article and perfect timing. This is such an important message to get out to teenagers and their parents, especially with the summer parties coming up.
J. Tom Morgan spoke at my son’s high school. He had the kids talking afterwards…about so many things that these kids are or will be exposed to: underage drinking, drugs, bad ending to a fight, statutory & date rape, personal photos. The kids were paying attention b/c they were talking afterwards. They had no idea of the penalties and consequences. Neither did the parents.
We’ve all done extremely stupid things when we were younger. Everyone one of us did something incredibly dumb that could have had devastating consequences. We were the lucky ones b/c we lived to tell about it. Not everyone is so lucky and not every gets away with it.
Speaking as a parent of a teenager, information retention is an issue. They forget, they don’t think. Not an excuse. The message needs to be repeated often. Sadly, most parents don’t think their kids are capable of irresponsible behavior. Teenagers are notorious for doing stupid things. Simply put, they do not always think a situation thru. They think they are invincible and that bad things happen to others.
Kids today are overexposed to so much more than when their parents were that age. Everything hits them right in the face, from every direction, from such an early age. Everyone else is doing it, so they think they should, too.
Most kids are going to do whatever it is, if it is something they really want to do, despite their parents’ pleas, morals, values, etc. Peer pressure is so very tough. However, if they know the consequences & penalties beforehand, they just might think before they act. Hopefully, they’ll think the situation thru and conclude that the consequences are not worth it. Information will serve as a deterrent for some, but not for all. Ignorance is not bliss.
By Charles
May 6, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
A human being doesn’t start to think until about forty years of age, if ever. Every thinking person is aware of that fact. Therefore, we can talk to teenagers 24/7 about the law, awareness, and consequences of drinking and driving and it won’t amount to much. Adults should provide children with an environment that promotes the safety/security of children and that of the general public. We should sanction milieus that make it almost impossible for children to drink/drive and consequently appear before the bar of justice as an adult.
In 1973, black people attending separate but unequal schools in the south learned that the United States Supreme Court had legalized abortion. This occurrence my friends left black students and parents in disbelief. In the separate and unequal facilities of the south, our parents built communities that nurtured and protected children. The notion of the government declaring it legal to abort or kill a baby shocked our conscience.
By the late 1970’s, almost every State had altered its laws making it legal for children to be tried and punished as adults in the criminal justice system. All is not well, but we should not be too concerned about the mistakes that children will make; but all of us should have questions concerning adults in authority etc. who seem to have political issues with America. And from this vantage point, it appears that many adults with authority/power seek to punish Americans, their children, with an extremely flawed environment, and through the letter of draconian laws etc., under the guise of law and order.
By LT5000
May 6, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
In 1973, black people attending separate but unequal schools in the south
Uh, school desegregation occurred in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka ruling. Not 1973.
I don’t need a rum and coke to vomit. I just have to read another stupid Badie article.
LT5000
By Charles
May 6, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
LT5000, Mandatory integration took place in the South in 1970. Northerners had integrated and had been dumbed down much earlier.
You must be from the North my friend.
By Charles
May 6, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this
LT5000,
Slavery ended in 1863/1865 right?
N**** Please!
By Cindy
May 6, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this
LT5000, Take a deep breath…this is a GOOD article.
Katie, I get what you’re saying, but remember it’s not just the person who’s affected. I don’t want them taking me…or you…out with them.
Good blog Badie…I like it…and the supply of people who need to hear it over and over will never end, but now anyone who’s read your blog or heard one of the presentations can never say “oh, I didn’t know.”
By LT5000
May 7, 2008 12:25 AM | Link to this
I think people here are confused about desegregation and forced busing. Desegregation occurred in 1954. Busing was enacted in 1970’s. The facts always win.
If ignorance is no excuse, then what is Badie’s excuse for declaring a recession many months ago when he should know that the definition is two straight quarters of a decline in the GDP?
LT5000
By What're you, an idiot
May 7, 2008 5:23 AM | Link to this
LT - do yourself a favor and at least check your facts before you spout off.
The U of Alabama desegregated in 1963. George Wallace? “stand at the schoolhouse door?”
1969—A federal court orders the desegregation of Mississippi’s public schools.
In 1963, the University of South Carolina and Charleston’s public schools desegregated under federal court order.
The Jasper County (Georgia) School system began to be integrated in 1969, fifteen years after Brown v. Board of Education was passed.
Gwinnett County schools integrated in 1966.
It is reasonable to assume that there were schools that were still segregated in the early 1970s.
Last, but not least, the macroeconomic textbook definition of a recession is considered by many Economists as being far too narrow. In the US, The National Bureau of Economic Research’s framework is generally considered to be the standard.
If ignorance is no excuse….. Now why don’t you go back to your video games and Sponge Bob, and Mommy will call you when its nap time.
By Katie
May 7, 2008 5:54 AM | Link to this
Cindy, good point. And, after reading my post again—I sure sound like an uptight crochety old hagg. I’m in my 30’s and was a hellraiser as a teen. However, I did not put others at risk by drinking/driving or using drugs/driving. I did my fair share of both though. I just think that over the course of the last 30 something odd years, genetically, we’ve lost some brain mass in society.
By Cindy
May 7, 2008 7:32 AM | Link to this
Katie,
Nah you didn’t sound like a uptight chochety old hagg at all. I was just adding to all the good points you made. I’m thirty-something too, wasn’t too bad of a hell-raiser as a teen…I was that other one…the one that appeared to be all chilled out and laid back.
I did drive around drunk (couple of times) and high (alot of times, too many to count)and put everyone else at risk…high risk. But I always thought “I got this” and drove. Pure stupidity.
I can still remember how it felt to be impaired and that’s no way to drive…if only one person read this and decided they didn’t want to be an idiot like I was, then I’ll never regret typing it.
By LT5000
May 7, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this
*In 1954, the Supreme Court decided the landmark case of Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka. “Racially segregated schools,” the Court concluded, are “inherently unequal.” The Court found support for its decision in studies that indicated that minority students learn better in racially mixed classrooms. *
There it is people. You can come up with your stupid antecdotal evidence, but schools were officially desegregated in 1954.
Implementation may have taken a bit longer. But that is when desegregation occurred. Once again, you people are confusing busing with desegregation.
Now, most of the “evidence” you cite involves Universities. Undoubtedly where a moron like you picked up your misconceptions.
No surprise though, a steady diet of Miller Lite and chewing tobacco can have a deleterious effect on someone faculties.
LT5000
By LT5000
May 7, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
Idiot,
*The National Bureau of Economic Research formally defines a recession as three consecutive quarters of falling real gross domestic product. *
Here’s the definition of a recession for you, from the source you cited. And you are still wrong.
Nope, no recession. Do you have an extra chromosome? That would explain your asinine posting.
Here’s some advice for you, spend less time on your knees on Chesire Bridge and more time in the library.
LT5000
By Cindy
May 7, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
More time on knees in the library? I bet that’ll get ya kicked out…
By Katie
May 7, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Isn’t there a town in Southern Georgia that is still somewhat segregated—but by choice?? I could have sworn I saw some program on TV (yeah, like everything on TV is true) that mentioned this.
By what're you, an idiot
May 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
I’ll type slowly…maybe you’ll be able to keep up and follow the logic. In the mean time, turn off Blues Clues so you can focus.
In 1969 a federal court ordered the desegregation of Mississippi’s public schools. What that means is that although the federal government had mandated desegregation in the previous decade, the State of Mississippi had chosen to ignore that federal mandate and to continue to segregate its schools. I know I used some words you might not understand so let me explain. Public schools are where children go to learn, or maybe in your case just hang out and daydream and take up space. Children are little people. We’re not talking about universities where some children choose to continue their education as they become adults (or big people).
Now, these little people oftentimes go to school on a bus, but do you see that what Mississippi was doing didn’t have anything to do with buses?
Take your time and think about it. Maybe you can write it down with some crayons while Mommy makes you a PB&J with crusts cut off.
Don’t worry I won’t get into de facto segregation due to economic and housing inequalities or being driven by segregation in neighborhoods (the “other side of the tracks” effect).
By Zootrampmarie
May 7, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
One of the biggest mistakes this country has done was desegregation. Giving blacks rights simply dumbed down America. Just look at black youth for example.
By what're you, an idiot
May 7, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Ok LT, now that you’re back from your potty break we can go into recession.
[Martin Feldstein, who leads the group that is considered the arbiter of U.S. recessions, said on Monday that he personally believes the economy has been sliding into a recession since December or January. “I think that December/January was the peak and that we have been sliding into recession ever since then,” Feldstein, the president of the National Bureau of Economic Research, said on CNBC television.] (http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN0747602120080407)
Now this one might be a little harder for you, but if the President of the organization that declares recessions believes there is a recession, its reasonable for Rick Badie to believe there is a recession as well. Its not really reasonable, or topical, for Rick to have to wait until a recession is over and has been declared after-the-fact, which is the only way the NBER can really do it, to discuss its impact.
I know you probably like those stories that start out “Long ago in a land far, far away” or “Once upon a time”, but it just doesn’t work that well in a daily newspaper. Besides the AJC doesn’t have all those pretty pictures you like so much either.
By LT5000
May 7, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
Idiot,
Your name is far too appropriate. Anecdotal evidence is not facts. It is cherry picked.
All of a sudden it has gone from “the south” to a few school districts in Mississippi. Quite a change from you spewings earlier.
Now to the Recession. I pointed out that the definition of a recession has not been met by either the classical economic definition or the source you cited.
The National Bureau of Economic Research is the official arbiter of when recessions begin, and it could still be months before the organization makes that determination. If it does, that would mark a formal end of six years of economic expansion.
Economists generally define a recession as two consecutive quarters of economic contraction, something that can only be measured after the fact. The US economy grew at a scant 0.6 percent rate in the 2007 fourth quarter.
That was March. Still no recession declared. And it will be months before they can determine if there is one. What putz you are.
Try reading the whole article and not just what you want to read. Maybe mommy can help you with the big words
Here’s some more advice for you. Spit next time, don’t “keep the change”.
LT500
By LT5000
May 7, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Idiot,
Some more reading for you. Just to prove what a teabagging moron you really are.
The NBER, a non-profit research organization, typically declares start and end dates for U.S. recessions. The group has not officially declared the U.S. is in a recession.
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN0747602120080407
Take the Badie kneepads off and wipe your chin.
LT5000
By Jais AAA Duluth
May 7, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Just a question, What’r you an idiot…where are you getting these facts of yours? I looked it up on wikipedia and it seems lt is yet again correct.
Badie really could write much better articles and do some of his own fact finding before spouting off inferences to his liking. Alot of bloggers here would do well to learn before you talk.
My stance is that kids nowdays, hell- kids in your day and your parents days were just about the same. They get drunk, get stoned, go to parties, drive around…kids will always do this and no amount of idiotic commentary is going to change the fact. I can just see rick as one of these little steve irkel nerd kids who never sipped a beer or kissed a girl before he got married, and probably still hasn’t seen “a girl bare nekkid” because he’s one of THOSE people. Sheltered, pathetic and misguided. If anyone needs to do drugs and let loose it’s terminally-uptight geeks like Rick and his pals.
Great job Rick- Again you write an article that has 0% basis in the real world.
The Japanese samurai (who were many times over better writers than Rick)had a saying for people like this: BORN DREAMING…DIE SLEEPING.
You rick are the epitome of this phrase. You probably came into this world with your eyes shut. You will likely leave it the same way: never having affected anything in any way.
By What're you, an idiot
May 7, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
LT - My first post
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/badie/entries/2008/05/06/warning_ignoran.html#comment-58831703
pointed numerous examples of public school systems which were still segregated well after 1954. For example, Jasper County Georgia (which is not in Mississippi) and Charleston, South Carolina (which is also not in Mississippi) and of course Gwinnett County Georgia (which is also not in Mississippi). It wasn’t meant to be an exhaustive list, just some anecdotal examples to support the claim of a previous poster that you got uppity with.
Jais - you do know that wikipedia is a wiki, which can be edited by anyone. Its contents may be correct, but then again maybe not. You or I could modify any topic on wikipedia and include either factual or erroneous information. Someone may come around after we did that and fix it, but its possible that info on wikipedia is incorrect.
My point on recession is that Alan Greenspan says there is a recession, Warren Buffet says there is a recession, Martin Feldstein says there’s a recession. Its not criminal if Rick Badie says there’s a recession and uses that hypothesis in a column, even if the NEBR should declare later this year that technically there really was no recession going on.
LT - you seem quite knowledgeable on sodomy-related issues. Perhaps you should consider that as a potential career when you get bigger.
By LT5000
May 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Idiot,
The facts always win. Especially with an idiot such as yourself.
Your anecdotal evidence is pointless. School segregation was ended with the Brown decision. Cherry picked examples are not proof of a systemic problem.
Badie posted his moronic Recession article several months ago. Like you he is too stupid to realize what the textbook definition of a recession is. Even your precious NBER has not declared a recession.
Admit it, you were spouting off and you were wrong.
I operate on facts, not supposition and lies. The facts always win.
LT5000
By Jeff
May 7, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this
Jais, dude, chill out. Why are you getting ugly about some guy you don’t even know? Scheesh!
By SK
May 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
I do occasionally read this column because I enjoy the human-oriented articles that Mr. Badie writes (although some are a little too … sappy for me; this one was good as I have a teenager and will share with her). However, what I am wondering is why such a self-purported intellectual as LT5000 even comes into this blog? If you’re not interested in the topic, then you are obviously just here to show off your “intellect” and insult people who might still have a heart (rare, but still to be found). I think it is very funny that you think because the Supreme Court made a decision that, bang, “IT IS SO.” I have to lean more towards What’reYou, An Idiot and say it didn’t actually END until it was OVER (kind of like the quarters in a recession), and that it didn’t end just because the Supreme Court ruled that it should not happen any more.
By LT5000
May 7, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
SK,
You and your “life partner” have proven that you are both idiots.
Look at the decision of Brown vs. the Board of Education.
Then take a look to the recession articles I posted.
The facts win and morons lose. that’s the way of the world.
LT5000
By reader
May 7, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
Jais: Obviously, you don’t understand the gist of the presentations given by the speakers who were referenced in this article. GA Code applies differently to a 16 y/o than it does to a 17 y/o. The difference of only a day can mean the difference of being tried & convicted as an adult, serving mandatory sentences and having a felony record follow one around for the rest of one’s life. Perhaps you should do some research before you go spouting off about something you know nothing about? Then, maybe, you won’t sound so…well, ignorant?
By Bruce Wilcox
May 7, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
On the recession, 80% of “The People” believe we are in one, now it’s like the difference between a tornado and straight line winds, either way your house is destroyed, so who cares who calls it.
In my days the drinking age was 18, it didn’t seem as we had the problems with driving as we do today. But we didn’t have texting on cell phones either.
I don’t know if any state has an 18 year old drinking law anymore, if they did it would make an interesting comparison.
By LT5000
May 7, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Brucie,
What an asinine analogy.
Remember, a majority of people thought the world was flat at one point. A majority of people thought there were two shooters of JFK.
However, the facts do not support the polls. Lets face it, you, Idiot, SK and 70% of America don’t have a clue about what a Recession is.
The GDP cannot grow and a recession be declared. Even Idiot’s precious NBER hasn’t declared one.
However, Badie, add another idiot to the pile, declared one 5 months ago when GDP growth was even stronger.
By the way, see the latest unemployment numbers?
These are the facts.
LT5000
By Bruce Wilcox
May 7, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this
LT, with the little respect I can offer one such as you, my intention was not to insult, but to inform.
To call my point asinine is truely “‘Blinded by the Right”. You do not seem to understand that the people in the Ivory Towers do not decide what a recession is, it is “The People”.
Remember LT, it is “The People” who pay the higher food prices, it is “The People” who pay the higher food prices.
LT you can offer up all the stats you want, but WE pay the higher costs and WE’ll decide.
LT, do something really important and look up the comparison between states with lower drinking ages and ours?
By Fred
May 8, 2008 12:45 AM | Link to this
“It was a timely event. Over the weekend, a teen church member was involved in a car accident that left one boy paralyzed and another comatose.”
Comatose? If it is the accident I am thinking of the “comatose” boy has severe swelling of the brain and has a 40/60% chance of living. The “paralyzed” boy is likely to die as well which means the “comatose” boy will be charged with a crime should he live. How sad our youth dying stupidly. I did not however hear they were drinking. Were they?
By Fred
May 8, 2008 1:13 AM | Link to this
Wow, I responded before I read the blog. How insipid of me. Ihave read it now. I think that LT5000 is an inbred, knuckle dragging hairy backed, sheet wearing SOB but so far on THIS particular blog entry he not only is correct but has mentally kicked the butts of everyone who has tried to oppose him. Not a single soul has said anything against the points he has made that have one lick of logical sense. Just damn, you cannot believe how much pain it has caused me to type those words. LT stalks Badie like he has gay love for him, yet in this instance he (lt) is dead nuts on.
what’re you, an idiot: No I’m not but you obviously are and think everyone is as stupid as you are. You have yet to make a single lucid point backed up by any facts. How sad. WHo is typing this tripe for you because with your so called “arguments’ and “sources” I seriously doubt you have the ability to read and comprehend the written word. You want segregation? Go to Morehouse, Spellman. Howard, Grambling, Delta State, it’s THERE in all it’s full blown glory. Go to the “trumpet awards” go to the “Miss Black America” awards, a Black lady won the REAL Miss America award and she didn’t have to exclude every other race in the world to do so. I would be ashamed (and not accept much less enter) a contest where I was to sorry to compete against the best in America.
Just damn. I HATE that I am on LT’s side on this, but i AM intelectually honest (unlike you) and he’s right in this instance.
By Katie
May 8, 2008 5:46 AM | Link to this
Fred, we need organ donors. And, why mention that it was a teen ‘church’ member? Does it matter that he went to church? If someone goes to church they don’t do stupid things?? Just another teen doing something stupid, that’s all.
By Cindy
May 8, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
I was left with the impression that church was mentioned because it’s the youth minister who had arranged the presentation. I don’t think they were inferring that church kids are different, just the timing.
Amanda Henley, Tucker First’s youth minister, put together Sunday’s “Teen and the Law” program. It was a timely event. Over the weekend, a teen church member was involved in a car accident that left one boy paralyzed and another comatose. It’s unclear what caused the accident. The church member wasn’t seriously injured.
By One Man's View
May 8, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
The wonderful anonymity of blogs lets us all spout and spew with impunity. No need for the behavior that is part of civil conversation.
On facts: Facts alone are seldom sufficient for understanding, decisions, knowledge, etc. It’s a fact that I can spell every word in the largest Webster’s around. So now I am the smartest wordsmith in the world? But can I write a paragraph? That’s a subjective determination and far more important.
Or are we in recession or did I have my house repossesd? Both have factual answers. One is important; one is not.
By Cindy
May 8, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
One man, We should remember though, even with anonymity, how truly anonymous are we? In general discussion, we divulge a snippit here and there. Additionally, in other places, on other sites, we sometimes use the same names…enabling anyone with a fraction of a brain and a smidgen of reasoning abilities to piece by piece build a model of who and where we are.
Regardless, in my world, treating others with respect is commonplace. It takes alot to make me fly off the handle at someone, even on this blog. To me it’s senseless. For LT5000, Michael, Bruce, Fred, AreYouAnIdiot, and many others, they are ok with that type of discussion…I’d go so far as to say they expect it.
As for me, I will try to treat everyone in such a manner that at the end of the day, I don’t have to look in the mirror and feel ashamed.
If any of you ever meet me face to face, I can hold my head up and look you square in the eyes with no contempt, no shame, and no explanation needed.
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May 14, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this
LunaTic 5000. Don’t worry, ignorance is a good enough excuse for you. Do they you have a computer in the home, or did you excape.
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