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Parents to be informed on new discipline policy
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The Gwinnett branch of the NAACP has planned a Sunday get-together, and no — it’s not a gathering to honor embattled Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick.
It’s a “Back to School” event, being held to inform and educate parents, students and teachers on some timely topics.
The first one deals with the new disciplinary code for Gwinnett schools. The school system has made changes to its student conduct rules because records showed that a disproportionate percentage of minority students were the ones who faced expulsion.
Last year, about 68 percent of 2,218 Gwinnett students who appeared before district-level discipline panels were black or Hispanic, according to school district records. Yet black or Hispanic students made up about 44 percent of the district’s enrollment at the time.
Superintendent J. Alvin Wilbanks wisely put together a task force to look into the matter. That 49-member group included some local NAACP members. The net result of the panel’s work is a uniform disciplinary code that clarifies rules and procedures. It also lessens the chance that prejudices or racism will creep in when punishment is meted out.
“We believe that the work done by Dr. James Taylor [executive director of academic support for Gwinnett public schools] and the committee is really good and a step forward for students and teachers,” said Jennifer Falk of Duluth, who chairs the local NAACP’s education arm. “It’s early in the [school] year; we want to get the information out. Hopefully, there won’t be as much turmoil during the course of the school year. That doesn’t need to happen.”
The second forum topic deals with an issue I wrote about in July — the 2007 youth health survey conducted by the nonprofit Gwinnett Coalition for Health and Human Services. More than 30,000 sixth-, seventh- and eighth-graders answered questions about sex, alcohol, drugs and violence. Results show high-risk behavior is on the rise among students of middle school and high school age.
Related link: Gwinnett Coalition for Health and Human Services 2007 Youth Survey (PDF)
Ellen Gerstein, who oversees the coalition, told me that parents, generally, suffered from the “it’s not my child” syndrome. She expressed dismay that so few parents, as groups or individuals, had contacted her office to request a presentation or just to talk about the survey results. Gerstein’s concern compelled the NAACP to make her a forum panelist. “It’s a natural link to have her come,” Falk told me. “I thought the information was important.” So is the general idea for the forum.
See, this is an event that reaches deeper than Mr. Vick, who has been suspended from NFL play and lost lucrative endorsement contracts because he faces allegations of dog fighting. He’s a sports celebrity with bags of money to hire an ace legal team. He doesn’t need a human rights organization to rally people on his behalf, as about 200 fans did on July 29 at the Georgia Dome. He doesn’t need the NAACP Atlanta chapter to ask the media and public to withhold judgment and cease vilification. And he’s done nothing to be honored, as the Southern Christian Leadership Conference had pledged to do last week at its 49th annual convention in Atlanta, before rightly nixing the idea. Vick definitely deserves due process.
Not a public defender, caretaker or watchdog.
Yet so many kids do. The Gwinnett NAACP and its leadership know this. It recognizes the need to teach our children, all children — to serve them and combat ills that conflict them — since its reactivation in 2004 by the late Rev. John Stewart Jr.
And from college tours to youth summits to blood drives and education forums, it has done so humbly, outside the glare of the spotlight.
Rick Badie’s column appears on Sundays, Tuesdays and Thursdays. Contact him at 770-263-3875 or e-mail rbadie@ajc.com.
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By JV
August 14, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
I say the naacp needs to focus on stuff where it realy counts such as the dropout rate. All the naacp does, they cause trouble and also cause Anglo-Whites to be more racist. For the naacp, instead of ralling for a poor black kid who gets suspended, tell him to stay out of trouble. I hope the Anglo Whites will have a counter protest.
By Akagi
August 14, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
Maybe the reason the blacks and Hispanics make up a “disproportionate percentage” of students facing explusion is because blacks and Hispanics engage in activities that lead to explusion. No couldn’t be that could it? It has to be racism or something.
And uniform punishment is just another word for zero thinking policies (AKA zero tolerance) which has lead to 3rd graders being suspended for taking plastic butter picnic knives to school and the like.
By Jay
August 14, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
Sooner or later the NAACP is going to have to face the truth about the black community instead of conveniently attributing all of its troubles to racism. Blacks are disproportionately poor and have more teenage, out-of-wedlock pregnancies (as a percentage of their population) than any other race. These trends translate into a lack of parental guidance, from which children presumably learn how to behave in school. It’s no surprise, then, that black students have a higher incidence of disciplinary issues.
The NAACP should focus on discouraging blacks from having children they’re unable or unwilling to take care of. This new policy is tantamount to turning a blind eye.
By ATICO
August 14, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
I want to be the first in line to congratulate the NAACP for stepping up to the plate to help correct an ongoing discipline problem in our County schools.
Of course there are many reason for the way kids act in school, and not being qualified to list them, I will leave that to others that will surely give many reasons for the high percentage rate of disciplinary problems caused by the blacks and hispanics.
I hope the right parents attend the meetings with an open mind, and then take action if they have a troublesome child.
By Sandy_G
August 14, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
What will be interesting to see is if the percentages remain the same after the new guidelines are put into place. If so, then would the NAACP speak to the real root causes of minority children who are out of control at school? Maybe, say, for instance, the fact that the vast majority of these kids probably have no father in the home? No father even in their lives at all?
I know for me, school discipline and the possibility of suspension wasn’t a deterrent to getting in trouble at school. What was however, was what would happen to me at home when the news traveled to my parents that I had misbehaved in school. I knew to stay out of trouble or I would have trouble sitting down the next day after my Dad heard about it.
Whether or not you believe in corporal punishment, somebody has to face the fact that kids need two parents in their lives, a mother AND A FATHER to set limits, enforce the rules and direct their kid’s behavior in and out of school. Until you deal with the problem of fatherless children, you will never, ever fix the problem.
By Real Believer
August 14, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
It troubles me that I live in this Bible-Belt state surrounded by “Christians” who readily spew hatred and intolerance. I can only hope that the posters find redemption in their statements.
By Sandy_G
August 14, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this
To Real Believer, There is nothing intolerant or hateful about the truth. The truth is that over 33 different studies over the years on families and children have shown that children raised in a single-parent home are twice as likely to drop out of school, more likely to live in poverty, more likely to have behavioral or emotional problems, more likely to end up in prison and more likely to abuse drugs and alcohol.
This bears out across the board, across racial types and ethnic backgrounds. When a child grows up in a single-parent home regardless of whether that is an unwed mother, divorced mother or widowed mother, they have more issues as children and more issues as adults.
http://www.clasp.org/publications/marriagebrief3annotated.pdf
The truth is that blacks have the highest rates of children growing up in single-parent families than any other minority group in the U.S. Next are hispanics and then whites. It’s no wonder then that minority children are in the majority when it comes to school discipline problems. It doesn’t have anything to do with being black or being hispanic. It has everything to do with not having a father in the home. It doesn’t matter if that Dad is black, hispanic, asian, white, native american, etc. What matters is that he is married to the child’s mother.
Children of divorce have the same increase in behavioral issues, but again, there is evidence that shows that having your biological father involved in your life on a daily basis is a factor that lowers the incidence of behavioral problems in children.
Are all fathers good for their kids? Obviously not, but the vast majority of Dads are good influences on children if for no other reason than to keep them in school and out of jail.
By Ryan
August 14, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
as far as the NAACP goes, can you imagine the backlash that would ensue if i started a group called the NAAWP (for white folks)? or maybe a United Caucasian College Fund? i can already hear the good Reverands planning there protests and cries of racism! this organization is joke and only exists to stir up controversy.
By LG
August 14, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this
Sandy - Stats are only as good as the person using them. You can make stats say anything you want them to. Bad stats are used as excuses to hate.
I’ve met too many kids from single parent homes that get into less trouble than kids from two parent homes. My kids and many of their friends are from single parent homes and they are GREAT kids. We all have one thing in common, we’re all involved in our kids’lives - something a lot of parents who are together still don’t do. Matter-of-fact, all of my son’s middle school teachers told me that I’m one of the few parents who worked with them throughout the years - single or married. Many couldn’t believe his dad was living 9 hours away during those years. All the kids who give my kids and their friends trouble (like chasing them down the hall with a switchblade) have been from two parent homes.
I’ve said since the first time I was in labor that Lamaze is a waste of time. Instead of teaching parents how to breathe, they need to teach parents how to be INVOLVED parents, and how to make their kids priorities.
Kids don’t need two parents in the home. They just need one parent who loves them enough to make the time for them.
By online reader
August 14, 2007 7:23 PM | Link to this
LG, you hit the nail on the head. Being an involved parent is time consuming and means setting aside my own needs for those of my child. Being an involved parent means NOT being my child’s best friend. I joke that if I have not made my child mad at least once today then I have not been a good parent today. I have told my child since elementary school that if a teacher said he did something wrong then he did. If he didn’t want to be accused of doing something wrong then he needed to watch out what he did and who he hung around with. And yes, I am a single parent. The biggest thing I see from two parent homes are both parents working and the kid getting a car at age 16. That usually translates into the kid being out on his own and the parents out of control. My child graduated with honors this past spring and received an academic scholarship to an out of state school. Not too bad for a kid who’s father also lives 8 hours away.
By Real Believer
August 14, 2007 8:25 PM | Link to this
Actually Sandy_G, I wasn’t referring to your posting. Perhaps the shoe was just your taste and you just couldn’t help trying it on! But let’s address your comments. As a former educator, I can emphatically tell you that given the same situation playing out with two different ethnicities of children, will result in very different options offered to each.
Case in-point, I held small group reading reinforcement for all first grade classes. In one classroom was Johnny. Johnny was an extremely active white male whom had impulse control and whose bottom had never been introduced to his chair. It met his desk, his peers’ chairs, the floor, walls, but never his chair. His lack of self control interfered with not just his learning but the class’ learning. Johnny probably had a severe case of ADHD and when I mentioned that to his homeroom teacher she said he was just full of beans. Some parents insisted that their children be moved to a different class after coming in to volunteer. Jamal, a black male, was in the same class. He didn’t suffer from impulse control or ADHD nor did he disrupt the learning of the class. But when he became bored, he wandered over to the other centers and did the activities there to amuse him. He wasn’t loud, hitting his classmates nor running over to show them what he discovered there. But when the same teacher called Jamal over to join the class, he told her “no” and would continue doing whatever until they did something else that caught his attention and he’d rejoin the class. This same teacher wanted Jamal tested for ADHD, tried to convince his parents (yes, two) that he needed to be medicated (even tried to get social services to intervene to medicate him) and told the parents that he was disruptive, defiant, and angry. Jamal’s parents had his teacher changed (after my discussion with them) and we later realized how much stimulation Jamal needed because he was very, very bright and the class was moving too slow. Meanwhile Johnny wasn’t considered disruptive or defiant, just full of beans and his entire class only learned half of the curriculum needed in first grade.
Teachers and administrators are human and they take their biases into the school environment. I had one teacher tell me she only referred the kids that she liked to be tested for gifted services and if parents complained she told them that their kids didn’t qualify. There are lots of teachers that do the right thing and lots of teachers that feel like JV and Akagi and unfortunately, that enters the building everyday. And given the amount of venom posted, I’d say chances are good that black and brown children stand a pretty good chance of getting them.
The change of the discipline code levels the playing field and attempts to remove some of the biases so that the same infraction committed by any race student gets the same punishment. And since you like websites, check out theses:
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/01race/white08.htm http://www.genders.org/g29/g29_singleton.html
By loveagoodlaugh
August 14, 2007 10:27 PM | Link to this
LOL at the single parents posting here who have convinced themselves that two parent homes are the selfish and dysfunctional ones.
By Rhonda
August 14, 2007 11:05 PM | Link to this
The first time a student gets in trouble he or she should be screened for learning disabilities. If he does not or gets in trouble again, he should receive a full special education evaluation and, if he qualifies, he given this “second chance” to succeed. Good students rarely get in trouble. Schools don’t want to do this because special needs students are harder to dispose of. Expulsions should be reserved only for life threatening behavior—-guns or bombs. Suspensions should be limited to somewhat similar but less dangerous trouble. ISS should be a therapeutic environment dedicated to solving the problem that sent the student to it.
Principals who suspend students to reduce class loads toward the end of school year should be fired. This woudl not be necessary if the classes were kept small and less was demanded of teachers. There was a middle school principal who suspended 100 or more students per day for her favored teachers in May. She also used to try to suspend students who were likely to score low on high stakes testing so they would not be there to lower the scores.
Zero tolerance is zero respect for teachers or administrators. Every case of discipline should be based on the professional judgement of the teacher and administrators. Today a student hit me and knocked off my glasses 3 times. Because he has a severe disability I did not even report it. Anyone else would have been out on his ear.
Principals should be evaluated partially on how many students they AVOID suspending. Sometimes that is what the kids want, especially high school kids.
There is prejudice against minorities, often by minorities, especially by black principals and teachers who have come up from the projects themselves and are dealing with low income students.
It is time to stop teaching to the test and reward innovation and quality teaching instead. States need to say no to high stakes testing continuously until the feds listen. Teachers should be rewarded for creativity. Classes that cater to active learning styles should be encouraged.
By Sandy_G
August 15, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this
Okay, I get it now. In our new politically correct universe, fathers are now irrelevant, unneeded and pretty much just a paycheck. Kids don’t need ‘em and neither do moms. Of course, that’s not an intolerant or bigoted or discriminatory viewpoint, that’s just the new reality right?
Oh, and what we really need isn’t discipline, it’s more “learning disability” labels and the medication that goes with it right?
Oh, and stop trying to teach our children to read and write so they can barely pass a proficiency test. What we really need is more warm and fuzzy “feel good” teaching that doesn’t concern itself with letters on a page, just whether or not little Johnny enjoys and understands the books that are read to him in class and the videos he watches there too.
You want to know what real intolerance and discrimination is? The idea that the notion that a two-parent family is a good thing is now somehow considered to be “intolerant” and “hateful” to single-parent households.
It might surprise you to learn that I and my four brothers and sisters, were raised by a single mom after my father passed away leaving her with five kids between the ages of 3 and 13. She did an awesome, amazing job working full time and raising us with the help of my grandmother and aunts and uncles who spent time with us. However, her job and our lives would have been so much easier and so much fuller had she had my father at her side. I know for a fact that I wouldn’t have gotten into nearly as much trouble as a teenager and I would probably have gone further with my education had he been in my life.
The fact that Dad may be 8 hours away for a period of time is not the point. The point is that he is a figure in the child’s life. Someone to be accountable to and someone to show a young man how to be a man, to sacrifice and work hard to help support his family. As a woman, I can teach a son good values and discipline him, but it means a lot more coming from a man.
It’s certainly not the only answer and not the answer for every child with problems, but it’s one piece that if it were there, would make the rest of the puzzle come together for a lot of these kids.
By LG
August 15, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
Never said that dads are just money. Never said that two parent homes are selfish and dysfunctional. Those weren’t my words. I’m just saying you can’t trust the stats. There is more to the discipline problems of kids than the martial status of their parents.
By Jack
August 15, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
I am so sick of reading and hearing excuses and having racism being the forefront problem to everything. STOP with the racism crap.. Why does the United States always keep racism alive?
Wake up America, we have a huge problem with children today. It includes all areas, states and color. If we as parents don’t find a successful way to discipline and rear our children, the problems will only get worse. The way WE let our children act and conduct themselves is horrible and dispicable. We allow 10yr old children to have a myspace page, curse and talk with a foul mouth, be disrepectful, basically do what they want to.
I am a white male, 37yrs old, and a father of 4 girls. It totally makes me mad at the way parents raise their children in todays world. Black, white and hispanic, we ALL have a terrible epidemic spreading in the up bringing of todays child.
We need a major revival. We need more biblically based homes, more discipline and structure for our children. We need to stand up to the plate and be held accountable for being parents. Its time we as parents are the leaders, the guiders, the discplinary, the role model and raise our children to be successful individuals in our society with goals, good people skills, respect, love, honor, self respect, to love thy neighbor, to have high hopes and aspirations ect..
We have a problem epedemic with todays children, dont make it a race issue because even the white children are growing up to be white trash with no parental guidance. Its a problem with all races, sex and nationality…
By Sandy_G
August 15, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
“Kids don’t need two parents in the home” by LG
And you’re raising a son. So when your son is a man and has a child out of wedlock, it would be perfectly okay for him to walk away right? Or, if he gets married someday and then gets divorced, he doesn’t really need to see his kids right? Because they don’t really need two parents, right?
So how does this translate to making a male child feel important and worth something in this world?
Real Believer, Why do you think it is that it is primarily male children who are diagnosed as ADHD, learning disabled and in need of medication? Is it pray tell, the fact that males have a different biological makeup than females, a need for more outlets for physical expression and a different way of learning than females? Is it perhaps a subtle bias against male children in the classroom? Would this perhaps explain the reason that we now have males in the minority in college classrooms? Boys are different than girls. They learn differently. They need to be taught differently and not expected to fit into a “one size fits all” mode of behavior in the classroom. Many times, if boys act out, it is viewed negatively, as a sign that there is something “wrong” with the child and ultimately it bbecomes a reason for medication. Too many of our boys are being classified as having ADHD because they are simply acting like boys. To expect a healthy young boy (or girl) to sit in a chair for six hours straight every day with no opportunity to blow off physical energy and expect them to pay attention and stay on task is insane. Our schools have become regimented to the point where children have no recess, no free time to be kids and are not even allowed to talk to each other in the cafeteria during lunchtime!
ADHD is a real condition and I have seen children (including girls) that have benefitted from medication. However, the fact that 1 in 5 school-age children now is under medication and the vast majority of them are boys, says something about male bias in educators and parents.
By Jack
August 15, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this
Mr, Bradie,
I respect you and enjoy your articles, however for the most part they seem color or race driven. Please stop the racism and color blindness. Does racism exsist in todays world? yes unfortunatly. I respect the fact that in todays article, a study has been done to prove maybe that racism exsist in displinary actions in Gwinnett County schools and yes if thats true it needs to be addressed and corrected.
Its not the childrens fault. It is the parents and the adults in charge of enstilling education in our children.
As far as what I have read about the one parent home. Children NEED Both parents unless one of then have passed away. Even in a divorce, children still need BOTH parents. Do men sometimes walk away or not pay child support? yes.. unfortunatly.. But is it always their fault? NO… Sometimes the judicial system put them in a position to walk away and not pay child support or be a part of the child or childrens life. Any man or woman that has been divorced should understand what I am talking about. I personnally think “shared parenting” should be recognized by the state of Georgia. I cant get into this subject because we dont have enough time.
Enough said……
By Michael H. Smith
August 15, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this
I hope you continue writing about the problems of color Mr. Badie, including the white colored ones. Hopefully, this get together will produce good results.
I’ll leave this link so others can see what the bad results produce:
http://www.silentepidemic.org/
By LG
August 15, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
Sandy
My dad was raised without a dad and his mom didn’t receive child support. My dad hunted his dad down when he was 30 and it was the first time he heard or seen him since the day he left. My dad and his brother are very successful. They grew up to provide for their families.
But I still didn’t say dad are just money. I know too many single dads raising daughters on their own.
How did those single moms raise all those babies after their husbands died in the wars in the 20th century?
My son is very responsible and takes accountability for himself, so I don’t see him being an absentee dad at all.
By KIM
August 15, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
Rev. John Stewart was a leader in dialogs between parents and schools when perceived injustice toward minority students occurred. However, he also was the first to state that school cannot happen when misbehavior occurs. Sometimes parents did not want to hear that their child was responsible for the misbehavior. No one in a school intends to discipline one race more than another. All parents need to hold their child accountable for disruption. Stats may be more for one group or another. Schools reflect the society in which the youths live. All parents should expect excellence in all parts of a child’s life.
By Michael H. Smith
August 15, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this
Well, KIM, I agree Schools reflect the society in which the youths live. But please deliberate further on this:
No one in a school intends to discipline one race more than another.
Please name the other race or races?
By KIM
August 15, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this
In responsee to Michael H. Smith, schools discipline disruptive children who come from the race of their parents. In other words, whoever disrupts school is disciplined, no matter the race. Race is not a consideration. And, it cannot be. That would be discrimination.
By Michael H. Smith
August 15, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this
The race of their parents? Hmmm… then multiple-races seems as though they are being considered or at the least inferred to exist.
The race of every parent and every youth is human. There is not another race. We only have one.
But thanks for the response and clarity.
By Jenna
August 15, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
One of these days, people of ALL races will realize that children get in trouble at school and elsewhere because the PARENTS don’t raise their children. It’s all done by day care providers, television and video games. .Parent’s can’t be “bothered” to sit down and TEACH their child the correct way to behave.
Don’t even get me started on the “only time-outs are the correct discipline” crap. If I misbehaved at school, I got a spanking. I NEVER DID IT AGAIN.
Perhaps what a lot of these teenagers with attitudes need is a good hard spanking and a parent willing to put aside their personal “wants” for the good of their children.
By Jesse
August 15, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
Don’t let Jack near your kids he want to rear them!
By Antoine
August 15, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this
Vic and his boys need to go to the Big House for maybe 20 years. I am sure he will make a wonderful girlfriend in there for some lucky queer.
As for his future football career……how stupid are we as the general public to turn a blind eye and allow some low-life of this caliber to ever be anything other than an uneducated stupid dangerous monster he has already numerous times proven himself to be.
This whole thing is sickening. Why not just execute them and rid the earth of this worthless scum.
By Jack
August 15, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
To Jenna: AMEN, VERY WELL SAID… it’s about time a real parent understands. AMEN..AMEN..AMEN
By Pompano
August 15, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this
My guess is that the makeup of the disciplinary problems in the Gwinnett School system also mirror the overall juvenile crime in the county. I’d also be interested in seeing a breakdown on infractions in the school, comparing categories such as carrying weapons on campus that are not subjective disciplinary issues.
By ALI MUHAMMAD AL HABIB
August 15, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this
HELLO BUDDY ,,, AS AN AMERICAN/PUNJABI BUDDY , I WILL LIKE TO SHARE MY GREATEST OPINION ABOUT THIS MIKE “AIR BUD KILLER ” VICK … YOU BETTY BAD MAN ,, YOU GO TO JAIL AND REMEMBER THAT THE GREAT DAY WHEN YOU DROP SOAP IT WAS BEACUSE YOU NOT ALLAH’S FRIEND YOU BAD MAN ,,,, I HOPE YOU REMAIN IN THE DOG HOUSE FOR LONG TIME AND YOU DONT GET TRAET!!!! THANK YOU AND MAY ALLAH PUNISH YOU HARD
By Frank Sieg
August 15, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this
Under no circumstance should the Feds. swing any kind of deals for VICK AND CO. This piece of trash needs to be removed from his career in the NFL, be removed from his money and for sure be removed from society for 20 to 30 years, not eligible for parole for at least 10 years.
By Responsible Parent
August 15, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this
School disciplinary code.
Simply put. Parents need to take the time to raise their own kids with real values. Teach by example. Self worth goes a long way in anyone’s life. Schools across the nation should be able to adopt same exact code and it work effectively. The results should not be considered racially motivated.
Our overly politically correct society we have created the past 15yrs has demoralized girls/females in music lyrics and videos on tv where they have actually become that image.
You harvest what you plant. You cannot get tomatos from a corn stalk.
The fruit does not fall far from the tree either.
Before you consider calling me racist. I have multi racial kids. Love them all equally and nurture their hunger for direction and values.
By Bob White
August 15, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
Who in their right mind would believe 12 people in a jury would convict a star quarterback of dog fighting? At best 10 would vote to convict. This is more fear to a star quarterback than a conviction. A retrial would take months. Money does speak loudly. Atlanta loses, the team loses big money. The NFL would lose also and knows that if the Atlanta star shows up at games, then the win will begin for big money. I would hope that dog bones would be cast to the field in such numbers every game would have to stop over and over again.
By Stan
August 15, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
I hope he doesn’t plea out, so when he goes to trial , he will be “conVICKted”, very fitting I think… .
By georgia
August 15, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this
No child left behind is a joke. Half the kids can’t speak proper english but teachers CANNOT correct their poor, lazy slurred ebonic speech. It is unbelievable that some kids gradutae when they talk like uneducated idiot’s.
By Dave
August 15, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this
Enough! Enough with the race card! What a joke. Apparently they want quotas for punishing punk kids. EVERYONE MUST read this on using the race card: http://www.nationalsquib.com/html/isaiah_washington.html
By Dave
August 15, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
Enough! Enough with the race card! What a joke. Apparently they want quotas for punishing punk kids. EVERYONE MUST read this on using the race card: http://www.nationalsquib.com/html/isaiah_washington.html
By frankie
August 15, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
This should be a lesson to all young aduclts and especially if you make it to the big league. WRITE a CHECK!!
You can’t take your street hommies with you Mike. I remember when MIke use to come to 30th ST.& Roanoke—- Now, look he is turning on you Mike, you chould have known he wasn’t any good Mike, he did not even have lights???
. When God blesses you you have to change people places and things.
I’m from BAD NEWS when I left—- I keep in contact with my firends but if I wanted to change I had to let them go. I send them gifts, money and cards., but not my life!!!
By frankie
August 15, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
This should be a lesson to all young aduclts and especially if you make it to the big league. WRITE a CHECK!!
You can’t take your street hommies with you Mike. I remember when MIke use to come to 30th ST.& Roanoke—- Now, look he is turning on you Mike, you chould have known he wasn’t any good Mike, he did not even have lights???
. When God blesses you you have to change people places and things.
I’m from BAD NEWS when I left—- I keep in contact with my firends but if I wanted to change I had to let them go. I send them gifts, money and cards., but not my life!!!
By frankie
August 15, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
This should be a lesson to all young aduclts and especially if you make it to the big league. WRITE a CHECK!!
You can’t take your street hommies with you Mike. I remember when MIke use to come to 30th ST.& Roanoke—- Now, look he is turning on you Mike, you chould have known he wasn’t any good Mike, he did not even have lights???
. When God blesses you you have to change people places and things.
I’m from BAD NEWS when I left—- I keep in contact with my firends but if I wanted to change I had to let them go. I send them gifts, money and cards., but not my life!!!
By frankie
August 15, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
This should be a lesson to all young aduclts and especially if you make it to the big league. WRITE a CHECK!!
You can’t take your street hommies with you Mike. I remember when MIke use to come to 30th ST.& Roanoke—- Now, look he is turning on you Mike, you chould have known he wasn’t any good Mike, he did not even have lights???
. When God blesses you you have to change people places and things.
I’m from BAD NEWS when I left—- I keep in contact with my firends but if I wanted to change I had to let them go. I send them gifts, money and cards., but not my life!!!
By Vick is History
August 15, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this
Vick will NEVER play professional football again. Too many people of good conscience will picket every venue he plays in for starters and will do everything in our power, within legal channels, to make sure the NFL, fans and the public at large NEVER forget what Vick has done.
By sorry it's true
August 15, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this
In my experience as a teacher, the non-white students tended to be more disruptive, less attentive to academics, and have more dress code violations. We can talk all we want about teachers being biased, or more patient with white kids, but I can tell you from several years of experience that my minority student acted out more. Maybe the NAACP should get active about teaching the parents some parenting skills.
By LT5000
August 15, 2007 9:15 PM | Link to this
Young punks grow up to be big punks.
Last weeks statistics, from the Justice Department, showed that black people accounted for almost half of the homicides in the USA. However, only representing 13% of the population.
Racism? Nope. 90% of the the blacks killed were killed by black people as well.
That kind of mentality begins when these people are kids. Of course, these perpetrators can also be expected to be the disciplinary problems in the schools as well. The parents certainly aren’t doing their jobs.
Rick and the NAACP should be confronting the real issues facing the black community instead of insisting every institution is racist. Bring along Reverend Al and Rev. Jackson as well. Even Uncle Jesse’s love-child.
I imagine I’ll be waiting for the article a long time.
Hmmmm. Maybe 50 cent and Young Jeezy aren’t the greatest role models for black youth.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/09/AR2007080901964.html
LT5000
By long gone
August 16, 2007 6:10 AM | Link to this
So happy my husband and I (and most of our friends) moved out of Gwinnett county when we did. You could see it coming when they starting building cheap homes, apartments and Walmart. Back then it was terrific living there, now……
By KIM
August 16, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this
In response to LT5000, I am afraid you will be quite disappointed to think you have run from society and its problems. At each income level, in each county, in each home parents must accept responsibility for teaching children that they must be one excellent being. MHS is correct that there is one human race, and poor behavior reflects poorly on the human race. Classy and responsible people live in apartments, condos, houses of many millions of dollars, and there are classless people in all residents. Clearly Gwinnett has great potential to keep itself “GREAT”. However, the problems that we face (that all urban areas face) must be confronted honestly and with integrity for positive action. Schools are only one part of the greatness of Gwinnett, and they will remain so with strong, positive parent involvement. Running from the challenge of how to live with others one perceives as different (economically or otherwise) makes us unlike humans. Humans are caring, sensitive, protective and smart. We must act that way and protect our community. So must the communities in Forsyth, North Georgia, Walton, South Georgia and throughout the US. It is time we are outraged by what goes on that is distructive, no matter where it is…from street crime, to white collar crime, to abuse, and on and on. While the discipline code has been clarified for whomever doesn’t quite “get it” I feel confident that Gwinnett’s school leaders will make sure distraction to learning will be firmly addressed and dealt with. Now what do you suggest we do for the well-heeled adults who use Sugarloaf mansions and other well-to-do neighborhoods to sell illegal activities (drugs, sex, gambling, marijuana plants, etc.)? (Or was that article I read about crime happening in Cumming, Alpharetta, Roswell, Peachtree City, Macon, Asheville, Boone, Alexander City….?)
By Niko
August 22, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
This is to all the people that are are saying bad things about Mike Vick and dog fighting. What about people who hunt innocent dears and bears to only display them in their house like a showcase. Some of you need to read the bible and get a better understanding of God’s mission. Repent and your sins will be forgiven. God forgives us all if we repent ask God for forgiveness. That is the problem with people now. We aren’t forgiving like God is. You are so quick to dismiss someone like Vick because he made a bad choice. Who doesn’t? And for those who think that Vick should years in jail for this, keep this in mind: The woman who killed her preacher husband most likely will get only 60 days in prison. This makes me dislike the media and the justice system more than ever. What a bunch of hypocrites you are!!
By Johnny Reb
August 22, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
Since AJC won’t give us a place to comment on the NAAACP and Vick story except here. You got it. Unless the NAACP can get Pete Rose cleared and in the Baseballe Hall of fame for only gambling. Not bankrolling an illeagal operation and in violation of the RICCI act, they should sit down and shut the hell up, This is not nor has it ever been about civil rights violations, It is about a jacka* breaking the law and paying the price, the same price as other have paid. Micheal Vick is not special, his a* can get the same damn treatment. So NAACP I say to you to STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By WAR EAGLE
August 22, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
Jay -you are a genius! You have finally hit the nail on the head! The NAACP has caused NOTHING but problems and created racism by not realizing the truth and accepting responsibility. It is their I’ve been oppressed and aeverything wrong is the white man’s fault attitude. They are now blaming Mike Vick’s downfall on the white man and that killing a dog is no big deal. Maybe in Africa NAACP, but in the Good Book-it says THOU SHALT NOT KILL-it does not say except for dogs! It does not say, except for White people or black people. Rescue dogs have done more than some humans have. Be like Bill Cosby and not like Al and Jesse. Get off welfare, entitlements and handouts and WORK. Go invent something LEGAL. Take responsibility for yoru life. this is the land of Opportunity-not the land of entitlements. Ted Turner had ZIPPO and got investors together for an outdoor sign co. Now he owns 25% of every mid western state-practically. Go make a difference-and not in the jails. Jay-YOU DA MAN!
By Stimus
August 22, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
Its official - the NAACP has lost its moral compass and is now totally irrelevant.
By Freddy K.
August 22, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
Is the NAACP going to start defending all criminals or are they as usual going to show their racist side and defend of blacks or even more racist and only the low life thug Michael Vick? So let’s circle the wagons drag out and dust off the racist hate crap and hear from the biggest racist group in history the grond old NAACP. Always go to start some s**t. I agree with Johnny Reb it time for the NAACP to STFP…… or be labeled as a hate group with the skinheads, the KKK, black panthers and by any means possible himself.
By Karin
August 22, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this
Somebody explain to me how the NAACP approving of his return to the NFL makes any difference - when did this become racial?? He should go do his time & when he returns to life - if there is an opening for him, great - if not, that’s the price you pay for screwing up. But why do people continously try to make things racial when it has absolutely nothing to do with race.
By To The Racist Commenters
August 22, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this
Wow!! Ok with the racist statements already. Everyone is entitled to support whatever organization they want as long as it is not afflicting harm to others. Everybody is always pointing the finger at everyone else and no one wants to take responsibility for their actions. I’ve already accepted that there will never be a president of a different color other than white because of the continuing racism we have in this country. Yes everyone has a right to their opinion, but please make sure you get all the facts before you go shooting your mouths off losers!!!!!
By Karin
August 22, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
Look here buddy, the only looser is you who can’t seem to get a grip. Explain to me why America caters to the black community. BET channels, Black History month, JET & Ebony magazines, Black beauty pagents, NAACP, etc. I am sick of people saying whites are the racist ones - absolutely the opposite…the world would stop if whites were to exclusively do anything white - so shut yourself up & realize what’s really going on.
By JB Stoner
August 22, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
If we had the NAAWP, you’d be calling us Nazis….
The NAACP has NOTHING to do with the ADVANCEMENT of Colored People. If the NAACP were TRULY concerned about the advancement of colored people, it’d utilize it’s time “advancing” the lives of those who NEED advancement. This sham of an organization is more concerned with leaping to the defense of rich, black, celebrities! A large donation is what they’re perpetually after. It doesn’t matter if the RICH black person is right, or wrong, they’ll defend him/her till the bitter end. Integrity means absolutely NOTHING to them! MONEY is where it’s at for the NAACP! MONEY, most of which is probably snorted, injected, or smoked-up, by the NAACP hierarchy…
What a disgusting, shameless, embarrassing, (to all America), lot. All in the name of helping colored folks… What a pathetic/damned joke!
By Spell Check Karin
August 22, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this
Loser only have 1 o in it! And I never said that whites are the racist one. Please read and comprehend what I wrote before jumping the gun. I am not racist by any means so you need to pipe down. I like anybody of any race as long as they are not ignorant. The American people who consist of all races have a right to support whatever they want. If white, hispanic, or asian people want to cater to watching BET, or Jet, or even support the NAACP, that’s their business. Back then Black people didn’t have a choice to support who they wanted because of fear from the so called superior white race at that time. SO now that we have that option, we are going to do so. And we, unlike some whites will not turn people of another color away because of their skin color. And those of you who think that every child needs to be raised in a two parent home, do you look down on someone who lost a spouse too? Is a spouse supposed to stay with the other spouse if their is abuse in the home? Again, get the facts and info before forming an opinion. Also, please make sure you use your spell check before sending another ignorant comment!!!
By Karin
August 22, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this
Well, Mr.Dudley-D-Right…I spelled LOOSER that way on purpose. LOOOOOSER may have gotten my point across to you better. No matter what your views, I don’t care. You are entitled to your opinion even if I do think it sucks. And don’t throw up subject that don’t make a damn with Michael Vick’s situation - had the NAACP not tried to steal the spotlight nobody would be having any of these conversations.
By Chad
August 22, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
the NAACP is a racist tax exempt organization that is almost always an inch away from being in financial ruin.
As far as blacks go, when your at the bottom every social and financial stat in America, it’s kind of difficult to be taken seriously. You might want to start with black males…bottom of the barrel in every category. Even the recent article in the AJC stated how black women were starting to date outside of their race because of the lack “quality” black men. And yes, all of this goes back to your community and how black males are raised.
Here’s another clue…no one cares your black except YOU…..get over yourself!
By Jamal
August 22, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this
Is Mr. White of the NAACP saying it would have been easier on Vick if he had killed a human instead of a dog? Yeeesh!
By walter mitty
August 22, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this
NAACP is posturing here. When a white disk jockey utters a slur, in bad taste, it is fine to lobby for his firing and banishment. But when it comes to black athlete who had actively participated in the profiting of killing, maiming and drowing of dogs, the NAACP waves the banner of forgiveness. How disingenuous…..and hypocritical.
By Dumb Comment
August 22, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this
Whatever makes you feel better about your spelling (excuses, excuses, no room for excuses). I guess you also support the white kids who go into schools and start shooting other kids too right? I also guess you support all the millions of dollars that the white executives have taken from the company they work for and only get a couple of months to only come out and go back to the life of luxury that doesn’t belong to them? Or maybe you support the white mothers who kill their kids and act as if nothing happened? But as far as Vick or any athlete that plays any high profile sport, regardless of their color and depending on what they’ve done, deserves a second chance. I myself don’t care to be involved in the NAACP. I only get involved with more important organizations that help out the community and kids.
By walter mitty
August 22, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this
BTW- I had contacted the NAACP some time ago. NBA star, guest broadcaster…on national TV, made a crass remark about Chinese slant eyes. I felt compelled to ask the NAACP for assistance and to seek redress or an apology or acknowledgement that this was poor choice of words. NAACP declined, saying that this was not their battle.
By Freddy K.
August 22, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
To The Racist Commenters You stated,”Wow!! Ok with the racist statements already. Everyone is entitled to support whatever organization they want as long as it is not afflicting harm to others. Everybody is always pointing the finger at everyone else and no one wants to take responsibility for their actions.”. So when you gonna Vick to stand up and be a man and take the responsibility for his actions. And yes the NAACP does harm other people. By their own actions they constentily put one race against or ahead of the others. That does do head does harm and is not good for anyone, except to line their pockets with mo money, mo money. So from where I sit it looks like all the racism is this country and on this issue is from the black toward the whites, when it should be about being fair to all. Pete Rose a truly great player was banned from baseball and will never have his rightful place in the Hall Of Fame for just gambling, his carear ended. Where was the NAACP. oh yeah his is a color white, that color is not on their list HUH? So if they Rose cleared then they can work on the thug criminal Michael Vick who by the way many charges against him Federal and State. So MV can do his time and fade away, finished with professional sports by his own hands, That would actually show me they were a clean organization and was truely about the advancement of colored people, because we are all of some color. So now sir I say to you and the NAACP with repect to sit down and STFU.
By Kevin
August 22, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
You have got to be kidding me. The NAACP thinks the Falcons and the NFL should welcome him back? Let me get this straight. The NAACP wants to tell every kid that watches Vick play that being guilty of a federal crime that includes killing animals and cross state betting is something that we should just say he paid his debt so cmon back? Playing in the NFL is not a right and in no way is banning Vick from the NFL for life going to stop him from making a living. I am sure he could do anything from selling cars, to construction, to working at Micky D’s just like the rest of us. He will just no longer be able to be a role model to kids anymore.
By Chad
August 22, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this
Unlike most of the black community I don’t support felons just because they’re of my race.
Who cares if they’re guilty or not….support them if they’re black right? Pageants, game shows, sports, business, it doesn’t matter….simply root for them because they’re black. Now who’s racist?
By JB Stoner
August 22, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this
There’s a reason for the disproportionate number of blacks and Hispanics appearing before a disciplinary panel.
A disproportionate number of blacks and Hispanics are unable/unwilling to abide by standards of human decency. There’s your answer. It’s not racism, just reality; you know it as well as I…
By Breed
August 22, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this
I have lost all respect for the naacp, This just wrong for them to stick their nose in this. It does not have one damn thing to do with civil rights. If the naacp wants to start trying to make laws, run the NFL or the Falcons than they loose that tax exempt status. This just shows their true colors. Following the rules and the do not apply. On day you dumd trouble making SOB’s will stir the pot one to many times. Nothing more than a f**king low rent hate group. This is just to much atupid in one city.
By Robert
August 22, 2007 9:32 PM | Link to this
I see the NAACP asking for NFL, Sponsors and fans to give Vick a second chance after he pleaded guilty to killing and fighting dogs. Vick lied to everyone about his role in this matter. Where is the NAACP asking for forgivness to Imus, Duke players and former members of the KKK. That is right theses are whites asking for people to forgive them. Where is the differance when you are asking for people to forgive. Death row is full of born again christians who are asking for a second chance. Giving Micheal Vick a second chance is like letting a pedophile work as Ronald McDonald on weekend at your local Mcdonald’s. Just do not let it happen, what is done is done he is guilty of a major crime.
By Alison Carnie
August 23, 2007 12:49 AM | Link to this
Making a mistake is leaving your umbrella in a cab or calling your new boyfriend by your ex-husband’s name in the throws of passion … it took planning, forethought and purpose to do what Vick did … if 60 year old, Canadian women with Chinchilla hair made choices like Vick, I, as one, would be beyond furious not making excuses or defending such specious behaviour.
By dan
August 23, 2007 7:27 AM | Link to this
Anyone who compares Dog Fighting to Hunting ( Basketball player Marbury , Mr. White, head of NAACP Atlanta ) etc. is an imbecile
By Breed
August 23, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
The naacp must be filled with idots and loosers to back Vick’s dumba**. Neither deserve the press they are receiving. Unless the naacp starts to help all people of color (white included, that is alos a color) they should labeled as a hate group and pursecuted as such by the law. They have done more to harm this country and keep racial tensions at a very high level than any other group in history. I understand that this is just my little no account opinion. But this gets old after a while. Same old tune as always. Since Dr. King their have been no true Civil Rights leaders. The others have been posers and publicity hounds and have done nothing but cause problems and show their behinds. YOu do not hear where they do one damn thing unless it is front of a camera or newpaper coverage which is B.S. Dr. King was a true leader and was out to improve the civil rights of ALL people in this country.
By To Freddy K
August 23, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
The NAACP is not out physically or emotionally abusing people for the color of their skin like the KKK did back in the day and the Aryan Nation is trying to do today. Again, I don’t support the NAACP because yes I do agree that they do overstep their bounds with supporting the wrong people. People hate to hear the truth. Vick did screw himself with what he did but he isn’t any different that the so called hunter that go out and kill other animals, and please don’t give me that crap about overpopulation. Call it what you want people I am sick of the excuses and all the hate you have towards other people that are different than you. Glad to know that you are improving on your cussing skills now maybe you should start watching the History Channel and A & E to get some real knowledge and learn how to have a REAL conversation and know what you are talking about.
By TO Dan
August 23, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this
How is it not compared to hunting, YOU’RE STILL KILLING ANIMALS RETARD!!! I thought I would come here and have conversations with intelligent people, now I see most of you are complete idiots!!! Peace out.
By RCH
August 23, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this
It is amazing that when rules and laws are enforced and minorities are deemed the culprits, automatically those said rules and laws become racist and there is a calling for their removal. There is an old saying; “If the shoe fits wear it.” The NAACP should concern itself with the prevention of crimes by young Hispanics and blacks rather than the browbeating of those who enforce the rules and laws.
By A I
August 23, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
The Naacp is so out of touch I plan on cancelling my suscription.The leadership are all a bunch of knuckleheads.Michael Vick did not make a mistake for 6 years.He must be the dumbest person in sports.A mistake is when you forget to bring home milk.
By A I
August 23, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
The Naacp is so out of touch I plan on cancelling my suscription.The leadership are all a bunch of knuckleheads.Michael Vick did not make a mistake for 6 years.He must be the dumbest person in sports.A mistake is when you forget to bring home milk.
By Freddy K.
August 23, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
To The Racist Commenters, Glad to know we agree on alt least on a couple of points. We don’t support the naacp and they have over stepped their bounds. Also Vick screwed himself. Since your to ignorant to understand the difference between killing the dogs and hunting I will not try to explain, as that would be wasting both our time. Now, I do watch the History Channel and also have read numerous books on history. It comes back to the history that we are taught in school in a made up fairy tale, since the North wanted to be seen as the great saviors and they won the War of Norhtern Aggression, they got to write the history the was they wanted it, not accurate or true but like they wanted it. Lincon was not a great humanitarian he was infact a supremist as were all Norhtern States and peoples. So you may want to try reading a little and get out from in front of the lieing idoit box sometimes. Also the KKK as you refer to it. To quote from you,”out physically or emotionally abusing people for the color of their skin like the KKK did back in the day and the Aryan Nation is trying to do today.”. They did that to all races white included so again read your history books they are more accurate that the northern fairytales of history. And the naacp trying to intimidate and emotionally abuse people now, by constantly stirring the pot and playing the race card. Now as for my cussing sir you kiss my a*s, plain enough. And yes, I can carry on a conversation when I have someone with intelligence to converse with, doesn’t look like you quite make it. You have a pleasant day.
By Breed
August 23, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this
Now the National Office of the NAACP starts to make excuses for the Atlanta idoits and Vick. All I can say is,”D A M N!!!!!!!!”. It is a hate group fron the top down. It does not give a rags butt about legal, fair or the law, only about mo money, mo money. Bunch of sale outs palying for the press. You got your last penny from me. I an ashamed of all of you. It was supposed to ba about the advancement of colored people, not a select group of colored people. Another group gone bad, is it the leadrship that needs repalcing or the entire group needs to be disbanded? Now we have the NAACP, KKK, Black Panthers, Skinheads all are supposed hate groups and need to be closely monitored by the Federal Government and brought to justice for the betterment of society as a whole. Thanks.
By Breed
August 23, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this
Now the National Office of the NAACP starts to make excuses for the Atlanta idoits and Vick. All I can say is,”D A M N!!!!!!!!”. It is a hate group fron the top down. It does not give a rags butt about legal, fair or the law, only about mo money, mo money. Bunch of sale outs palying for the press. You got your last penny from me. I an ashamed of all of you. It was supposed to ba about the advancement of colored people, not a select group of colored people. Another group gone bad, is it the leadership that needs repalcing or the entire group needs to be disbanded? Now we have the NAACP, KKK, Black Panthers, Skinheads all are supposed hate groups and need to be closely monitored by the Federal Government and brought to justice for the betterment of society as a whole. Thanks.
By doodiebuddy
August 23, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this
it seems weird…the NAACP is usually so fair and unbiased! (sarcasm people!) They are a joke now.
By observer
August 23, 2007 11:02 PM | Link to this
it’s simple…too many people have no accountability for what they do or more accurately what they DONT do with regard to their children. They blame everyone else. Education begins in the HOME, not at school. That education is respect for others, discipline, stability (and yes, even in a crazy world, what a child needs most is at least one stable force in their life)and consistancy. Additionally, it seems that too many doctors are too quick to medicate kids for ADD or ADHD. It is not all EVERYONE ELSES FAULT. Go look in the mirror. You know what you do and dont do for your child. Reevaluate your priorities.
By Breed
August 23, 2007 11:19 PM | Link to this
Naacp bunch of wishy,washy buttheads. I hope they step back and check themselves before they wreck themselves. Best thing is to sit down and shut up. Stay out of it you dumba*ses. Vick crapped the pile let him clean it up. Football should be over for Vick atleast in the NFL.
By Suzy
August 24, 2007 12:06 AM | Link to this
As lame as I think this fashion statement is, I don’t think a law is needed. I think once enough employers turn you down you’ll start employing a belt so that you’re sorry a* can be employed.
By Steve
August 24, 2007 12:52 AM | Link to this
NAACP, Rainbow Push, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the d@mned ACLU… when will all these miscreant losers ever learn they do more to foster racism than they do to combat it???
By Mary
August 24, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Everybody want to yell “racial profiling”. I don’t care what color you are, I don’t want to see your behind or your undergarments. That’s what underwear is , it’s to be worn under your clothes, not on top and not hanging out. We’ve got rappers saying they are gonna saggy their pants. When we we morally realize that choosing to be a respectful person does not mean your are giving up your freedom. Respect yourself, your parents, your teachers, your elders and your peers. Our young ladies should really respect themselves, since they don’t like being referred to by some of the names we are already being disrespected by. You have to give respect in order to earn it. This is not a racial issue I see all colors doing this. Who ever started it , just needs to stop it. Stop the pity partys and pull your pants up.
By Bob
August 24, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
Why is it always ‘racist’ or ‘un-Christian’ to just state facts? The black and hispanic communities have major social problems that start at home. They are a minority percentage as far as population but commit the majority of viloent crime in this area. Those are facts, nothing more. It is not racist or un-Christian to state them. If the NAACP can help change these facts then I say good for them for trying.
By Liberal Drive-by
August 24, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Personally, I think the boys who wear their pants below their butt cheeks are gay. It’s an invitation to let others know you’re down with it.
By Shannon
August 24, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
Why are they saying this is racial profiling??
I mean I think about it this way, the man who is leading the charge against this is an African American and young AA males are not the only men to wear these. Young white males do as well.
I’m starting to lose all faith in the NAACP … I mean first they (atleast the local chapter does … atleast the national head of the group seems to have his head on straight) support Michael Vick and now this! About the baggy pants issue, I know its not a big issue in the scheme of everything else going on in this world, but the bottom line is that alot of people I know find it incredibly obscene and offensive.
By Ntuj
August 24, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this
NAACP are hypocrits. No I am not white. This is a HATE group and NOTHING MORE.
Too many blacks and hispanics dropped out or got in trouble in school. So what? You blaming the school system? Get a life. Do you all see asians complaining? Your kids got in trouble b/c you are too sorry of a parent to be parenting.
By victoria Winns
August 24, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
Lets all relaize the fact that, when it comes to Most of the issues we face today, it comes down to Race! Everthing from Sagging Pants, Mike Vick, OJ etc…There was even a servey that mentioned that BLACK nba Players are Discriminated against in the NBA, by white refs. Of course we as African Americans all know this takes place on a everyday basis. From White Refs giving white players the advantage during games, to White teachers targeting Black kids in there classes(who don’t play sports)they wouldn’t dare risk losing a game due to sagging pants. Its the majority of white people who refuse to accept that this type of negative behavior even takes place, to them there is no such thing as racism. The NAACP is doing its job by makeing it known that this type of behavior will not be accpeted in any way, shape or fashion! Who is going to stand up for the Minority? If not the NAACP? If the truth be told, it’s a well known fact that most White Gwinnett Residents would rather not have blacks at there school to begin with(that is unless you are a great FOOTBALL/or BASKETBALL player then they love you) but for those minorities that don’t play sports….go to dekalb and do your black thing..~ Face it we see things differntly. HOW is HUNTING not CRULTY to animals(thats not a sport)But because thats something white people do for fun(it’s ok), when blacks start hunting, PETA is going to lose there mind! I see hunting and Dog fighting as the same sickness!! But thats just me! Equal rights for everyone!!!
Victoria Winns
By Ntuj
August 24, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this
We asians(minority also) are in no way as bad and screwed up as hispanics or blacks in “Gwinnett County.” When you say minority are messed up you include us. Stick to BLACKS AND HISPANICS. Blacks need to think with the heads on their shoulders and not the ones between their legs. Maybe it will solve many of these wedlock children.
By ramjet
August 24, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this
As for the fashion statement of wearing your pants well below your waistline, in prison this meant you were “available”. Maybe if they knew this they would stop all together.
By Ntuj
August 24, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
Just 1 question then I am out of here.
What is it that Blacks and Hispanics want and is not getting like the asians and white?
By garry legge
August 24, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
i think it would be a great law to pass in the hole U S. I AM SICK OF SEEING THEM WEAR THERE PANTS LIKE THAT. ps.i like to see the cnn egg heads that work there ,not give there opinion.garry in conway sc.
By Charles Helms
August 25, 2007 9:24 PM | Link to this
Why do you think all those racist hate groups like NAACP, Rainbow Push and the anti defamation leage exist?Have you ever really thought about it? It’s to keep the racial pot stirred up!Because united we would be strong but divided we are weak!And about the saggy pants,I think its just an excuse so they can harass and ask “your papers please” i mean your real ID please?Wake up America.
By Judy Rathmann
August 27, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
This cruel and reprehensive felony conviction speaks for itself. He should NOT be allowed to play again in the NFL. This would send the WRONG message to young children. He had a chance to be a good role model and we need to have zero tolerance for high-paid athletes, who think they are above the law!!!! No one is listening to the NAACP, who should be focusing their attention to more serious problems facing them.