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DEL.ICIO.USSchool attack on friend has teen wondering ‘what if …’
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
She blames herself. Even though she probably could have done little to prevent it.
Still, Ashley Favors, a freshman at Meadowcreek High School, feels some responsibility for what happened to a friend Dec. 6.
That night, the Meadowcreek Mustangs hosted the Grayson Rams. Meadowcreek won, 86-46. Ashley was there, playing with the marching band. Trevor Sanford wasn’t in the band, but the sophomore sat nearby.
“He was sitting on the ground talking to me about this job and something he was planning on doing with his life,” Ashley told me via e-mail.
After the game, Trevor walked Ashley to the band room so she could change. She asked him to wait for her outside. He said OK but with a preface.
“He said that he had to hurry and get home so that his parents wouldn’t get worried,” she said.
Ashley eventually emerged. Trevor had split. She thought he had hopped on his new bike and sped home.
He hadn’t.
Campus police and school officials say Trevor was attacked by two fellow students sometime between 9:30 and 10:30 that night.
They say Darron D. Dalton, 16, struck Trevor in the face while Corrddaro B. Thomas, 18, restrained the victim. Trevor was knocked cold. The attackers high-tailed it. Apparently they forgot about one thing: Campus surveillance cameras. The incident was caught on tape.
The suspects have been charged with felony aggravated battery, and they may be prosecuted as adults. Why they chose Trevor is unclear.
Trevor’s left eye socket was shattered in two places. Doctors say it will heal. Trevor, though, will be in rehab for some time to strengthen his cognitive abilities.
Today should be a good day. He checked out of Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta at Scottish Rite on Friday.
“Thank you, Jesus,” wrote his dad, Tim Sanford, in the Badie Blog. “Maybe we can have some kind of Christmas.”
Let’s hope so.
Sadly, though, this tale is ripe. There are the 45 days of rehab that await Trevor. His attackers must face a judge as well as a school tribunal.
And Ashley has a bad case of the what-ifs.
What if she hadn’t asked Trevor to wait for her?
What if it had not taken her so long to change?
“If only I didn’t have him wait so long on me, none of this would have happened,” she told me. ” I didn’t even get to tell him bye or anything. I can’t sleep. I just feel as if this is somewhat my fault.”
It’s easy for her to feel that way, to beat herself up. It’s noble of her to assume blame for the actions of two knuckleheads. When you care about someone, you tend to do that.
But is it necessary? Nah. And if Trevor is the young man I’ve been told he is, I bet he’d concur.
Ashley asked me to pass on a message.
“Tell him I said, ‘hello,’ and that I miss him very much.”
Consider it done.
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By Sarita
December 25, 2005 12:34 PM | Link to this
It is not Ashley’s fault becaus obviously trevor did something to p** tthose boys off and they where going to bet his a* either way
By Susan
December 25, 2005 12:59 PM | Link to this
Kraig, you are one sick s.o.b. That was nowhere near her fault. If those boys wanted him, they’d have done it sooner or later anyway. Why don’t you try your own remedy on yourself? No great loss to mankind.
By Andy
December 25, 2005 01:46 PM | Link to this
kraig, you are sick, pathetic and obviously in need of attention - the head-shrinking kind.
By jaison
December 25, 2005 01:57 PM | Link to this
i say we all find that first comment, the two attackers and break THEIR eyesockets for christmas ho ho ho
By Shamus
December 25, 2005 02:05 PM | Link to this
I think we should make the postings for this website 21 and up… jeez keep your pathetic drama to yourselves kids. They could have killed the kid and for no good reason either. They may not have anything to live for, a family that cares about them or a future but that kid might.
By shane
December 25, 2005 02:54 PM | Link to this
I think the girl should not even think to blame herself. On a more serious note, I think someone needs to find kraig and make sure he doesn’t end up on the front page for soemthing.
By Jonny
December 25, 2005 03:42 PM | Link to this
I certainly hope Ashley has a loving and supportive family to help her get through this time. She shows great care and compassion by feeling guilt for something she apparently did not cause. I do hope that her family helps her through all of this.
As far as the two boys that beat this young man, they show great character defects and general cowardice as to not even give the young man a chance to defend himself. He was held down by one hoodlum whilst the other beat him down pretty dang good if they managed to bust an eye socket.
Whether Trevor irked these boys or not is not the issue. A physical attack in rarely, if ever, justified. One can certainly make the argument that Trevor being double teamed was not justified at all.
These incidents of bullying should not be tolerated in the least bit by our schools. Boys will be boys, for sure. Boys are going to have scraps. However, boys acting like two bit hoods by doubling up on one is beyond the pale. I hope the school system takes a hard look at these two thugs before letting them back in the system. Thugs like that do nothing positive for a good learning environment. In fact they are nothing but a drag on students, and teachers for that matter, that are in school to better themselves and others. Expulsion is probably the best solution for all parties involved. As far as the two boys, the criminal justice system will simply be left with two more numbers to process. Inmate numbers.
By NLE
December 25, 2005 03:42 PM | Link to this
I think Kraig is pulling everyone’s collective leg. Quite typical, I might add, of someone who loves to get a rise out of his elders.
On a more serious note, Ashley’s reaction is typical of survivor emotional fallout. She is no more responsible that most probably was Trevor. He was undoubtedly in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Bullies will be bullies and it is also typical of them that they attack in packs. They are cowards and would never have attacked him if Trevor had been in a group. There may have been alcohol involved as drugs, and alcohol IS a drug, do seem to provide cowards with the emotional courage they need to act out their angst. Bullies, possibly like Kraig, are also fearful children and I would make a strong bet that they grabbed Trevor when he was unprepared, possibly from behind, in order to make the attack. They weren’t even courageous enough to remain for long at the scene of the crime. True cowards and not really worth much anger.
Ashley, you are not responsible. Sole responsibility for the attack on Trevor lies with his attackers!
By Dianna
December 25, 2005 03:43 PM | Link to this
Sometimes bad things happen to good people. It sounds like he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. The cameras will tell the tale.
By Tim Sanford, Trevor Dad
December 25, 2005 03:44 PM | Link to this
Happy new year. Again thank you for all your comments of concern and the ones that make no sense we will pray for you as well. Dear Ashley, thank you very much for your honesty. You are a trooper, and I will tell Trevor what you said. Have a great X-Mas and we the Sanford Family love you all. Trevor is having a hard time adjusting at home but GOD is still good.
By Duke
December 25, 2005 04:57 PM | Link to this
Ashley you are not responsible for what happened to Trevor so please do not feel you have to carry a burden for the acts of some children who deserve nothing less than a horse whipping! Trevor is fortunate to have a friend like you! The reason kids have gotten out of hand in recent years is the fault of the government! there is no discipline anymore because parents are afraid to spank their children for fear of going to jail or worse there is no paddling in school so today’s children do not receive the discipline we received when I was growing up kids then were made to toe the mark or face the consequences to the tune of a belt or a swath on their a* and legs! It was different then no one threading to take your kids away from you and taking you to jail for spanking your child!
Trevor my prayers are with you! I hope you make a speedy recovery and that the scars of this incident heal quickly and that you have a merry Christmas! Sincerely yours Duke duke4172@hotmail.com
By Duke
December 25, 2005 05:18 PM | Link to this
Kraig you need to seek psychiatric help because it is quite obvious from your message that YOU are the one who is unbalanced and no better than Darron D. Dalton and Corrddaro B. Thomas the young men who attacked Trevor! You are in need of counseling yourself! I bet you have attacked poor defenseless people yourself for absolutely no reason yourself! You are no better the young men who attacked Trevor!
By angie
December 25, 2005 06:13 PM | Link to this
I think the comments made by Kraig are very cold and calus. He should be ashamed of himself for saying anything like that about Ashley or anyone else for that matter. He sounds like the same kind of people that caused this horrible thing to happen. How can people be so cruel. Horrible things happen to people everyday and Mr. Kraig needs to hit his knees and ask for forgiveness for saying such things.
By Aliciak
December 25, 2005 10:59 PM | Link to this
I think that the AJC should not have printed Kraigs response…but that is the mom in me talking….get a grip sounds like Kraig just wants a little attention to me!
By THEMOMMA
December 25, 2005 11:12 PM | Link to this
This story was very hurting when I first heard what had happened to this young man. It pains me even more to hear that a young lady is feeling like she may have been somehow to blame. Dear you did nothing wrong and I also pray that you have a strong and loving family at home to help you during these trying times. Kraig you are a very sick and in need of a REALITY check. Somehow you aren’t happy with whatever it is with your life that you would even mention such a HATEFUL STATEMENT. My prayers go out to all families involved the victims, friends and even the suspects families as they are surely hurting with the knowledge that their children could hurt someone so seriously and appartently for NOTHING. I could preach a short sermon but I just wanted to share a little. Thank you.
By Alex
December 26, 2005 12:11 AM | Link to this
It is not her fault at all. Unfortunately, attacks like this in high schools are on the rise. Being a senior in a Gwinnett county high school, I know how it is. To kraig, you are probably one of the people who goes around trying to beat others up. That’s a shame, grow up and get a life. And that goes for anyone who reads this that picks on or beats up others. It is juvenile and immature. If you really want to prove how big of a man you are, go stand up for someone instead of putting them down.
By Count Schemula
December 26, 2005 01:56 AM | Link to this
“It is not Ashley’s fault becaus obviously trevor did something to p** tthose boys off”
Sarita, there is nothing “obvious” about it. In high school, sometimes, you just get beat up just cuz it’s fun to assert dominance and beat the crap out of someone.
By Tyrone
December 26, 2005 02:18 AM | Link to this
Does Ashley or Trevor know any of the attackers?
By Ashley
December 26, 2005 03:40 AM | Link to this
My Thoughts and prayers are with Trevor and Ashley. Trevor keep your head held high. God will get you through this long and difficult process of recovery. Ashley, remember that this terrible incident was not at all your fault. As someone else said, it would have happened regardless of where the two of you were if they boys that did it wanted it done bad enough.
By T
December 26, 2005 07:00 AM | Link to this
TO THE FAMILY.. KEEP THE FAITH….
By Mary
December 26, 2005 07:06 AM | Link to this
There is nothing that either Ashley or Trevor could have done…they are normal, decent human beings going about their daily lives, looking forward to a bright future, as they should. The problem is, I’m sure that wasn’t the first time the Dalton/Thomas pack of vicious animals attacked someone, and unless they are locked away permanently, it won’t be the last. These creatures are not “children” and by no means will they ever be “young men”. They are blodthirsty criminals and the lowest kind of vermin on the planet. Being the pretty new boyz in prison is the best they should get. These scum are the kind the terrorists recruit in the middle east to do their suicide bombing, because obviously they have nothing to live for and take their emptiness out on those they envy…healthy children with families who love them. Maybe something could have been done with these lowlifes long ago, but no one cared whether they lived or died when they WERE children, and now no one should. And if they ever had parents, they should be made to apologize or maybe do some jail time too, unless they’re already there.
By NLE
December 26, 2005 09:34 AM | Link to this
It is wholly a**inine, Duke, to blame the government for our failures as parents. It was not the government that began ranting at school officials a few decades ago about the “terrible” ways their children were being disciplined. When us flower children, and I’m one of them, began having kids and then focused our entitlement tantrums away from our parents and at school officials, our troubles began. We railed about the way our precious little dears were being “treated” at school and how dare they call MY child a bully or trouble maker. MY child is a decent, loving, kind brat that never does a thing wrong and shouldn’t have to be subjected to those horrible teachers who demand that MY child show respect and control themselves in school. And it goes on today. Y’all know who you are. That’s who is to blame. Not the “government” who, by the way, Duke, is you.
By tribalecho
December 26, 2005 12:56 PM | Link to this
Hmm. No pics of these thugs in handcuffs. They shattered a kid’s face, that can’t be too easy, but they’re called knuckleheads? Must be affluent white kids right?
By Nelson
December 26, 2005 04:24 PM | Link to this
Except for one person who thought that Kraig might be pulling our leg, the general feeling is that he is sick. Unless he writes in again we won’t know what he was thinking. As it stands, without further elaboration, his comment sounds insensitive and cruel. However, it is possible that by making such an over-the-top comment he was trying to point out, in a sarcastic way, that he feels it is absurd for Ashley to blame herself.
By neighbor
December 26, 2005 04:32 PM | Link to this
I do not think Ashley is to blame in the least, but I do understand blaming yourself for something that isn’t your fault. What I don’t understand is why this site allows comments from people such as Kraig.
By K Dogg
December 26, 2005 05:33 PM | Link to this
Go to gwinnettcountysheriff.com and look under the booking dates 12/13 and 12/14 to see mug shots of these two guys. They look like real class acts.
By Lilburn Parent
December 27, 2005 01:02 AM | Link to this
I went to that site… to see the pictures. These are scarey looking guys. However, I bet they dress up real nice. The cowards will actually make really nice “brides.”
Trevor, I continue to pray for you. I pray for your family as well.
Finally, Ashley it is not your fault that Trevor’s parents raised a “GOOD” polite young man! I can remember when an act such as Trevor waiting on you to see you home, was considered honorable! I sincerely believe it is still considered honorable.
By T.H.
December 27, 2005 01:24 AM | Link to this
Trevor is in my prayers. No one should have to deal with anything like that. Unfortunately, this crap (bullying and beat downs) happens too often. (I think this particular incident is getting attention because thank God there were cameras set up.) I’m not sure why schools don’t have more mandatory workshops on this stuff.
I pray that these two can be turned around. Our wishes of some type of vengeance in prison or whatever seems a bit twisted.
By scuse me
December 27, 2005 08:43 AM | Link to this
I’m giving odds that Alvin will find a way to keep from having to report this incident under NCLB.
By Dave Oliver
December 27, 2005 02:04 PM | Link to this
Meanness is part of a lot of teens. The beating of Trevor is just one of many bad things teens do to each other for no particular reason, other than being MEAN while the brain tries hard to come together. Too bad most teenss brain are not intact before they reach the age of between 22 and 25, and of course some never connect the dots and remain immature for a life time. Ashley you are doing quite well with connecting the dots, but don’t put the blame on yourself for what two mean teens did to Trevor. Trevor and you, Ashley, are in my prayers.
By dee
December 27, 2005 02:48 PM | Link to this
Parents need to put pressure on schools and school boards to identify those who would endanger other students. Moreover, parents should have to be responsible for the actions of their kids also. Then there are the privileged students, like athletes, cheerleaders and those whose parents lavish money on the school, who get away with things because of who they are. Kids need to be taught by their PARENTS about respect for others and themselves.
By B
December 27, 2005 02:49 PM | Link to this
Thankfully Ashley does have a loving family. It is unfortunate that this happened…there is no reason, cause, or justification for this behavior. Ashley, don’t blame yourself. I am glad they had the cameras to catch the low life attackers.
By Michael H. Smith
December 27, 2005 03:47 PM | Link to this
Best wishes to Trevor and the entire Sanford family, and to Ashley as well. May you all have a very prosperous and Happy New Year.
By Victim2
December 27, 2005 09:34 PM | Link to this
Unfortunately, I can relate to this story in more ways than one! My son was attacked at his former school Redan Middle for no apparent reason - a random act of violence. He wasn’t beaten as severely as Trevor, but was mentally and physically bruised nonetheless.
Secondly (and coincidentally) I work for Children’s and plan do my best to pay Trevor a visit.
It sickens me to be a victim of and hear of these distressing stories. Children should not attend school or any school function in fear. Students like the ones listed in this story and others like them should receive a mandatory weeks stay at ALTO!
By Tired of Senselessness
December 27, 2005 10:05 PM | Link to this
I personally appreciate all posters who have wished Trevor, Ashley and other children victims of senseless crimes - the best. I also agree with Dee “Kids need to be taught by their PARENTS about respect for others and themselves.”
And although I’m in the medical field and know all about the “frontal lobe development, and males developing sense of right and wrong later in life” theory, I don’t give it as much credit as Dave (Oliver) does.
PARENTS NEED TO STOP TREATING SCHOOL LIKE DAYCARE! No matter the age of the child. From personal experience, teachers have a hard time effectively teaching your child when you have consistent behaviorally challenged kids in their classrooms and the schools.
Simply put, if parents and kids (middle and high school especially), don’t see school as an opportunity to better themselves and their lives as a whole, than the only other ALTERNATIVE should be a MILITARY STYLE BOOT CAMP, JUVENILE OR PRISON!
If you want to be a criminal, thug, gangster or whatever the new terminology is this year - then you SHOULD BE TREATED ACCORDINGLY!
If an education is not what you want, need or desire, please do not hinder my child or any other from getting theirs. My child and many other children have other goals than to be criminals.
By Lilburn Parent
December 28, 2005 01:12 AM | Link to this
Have any reports indicated why the two cowards attacked this young man?
By John Rankin
December 28, 2005 08:43 AM | Link to this
If she had come out at any time the criminals were there, she would probably have been attacked as well. It looked like a well-planned out assault from what I read in the paper. The thugs they should also be charged with conspiracy to commit a crime- another felony. The adult among them should be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and Those 3 criminals have no business in Gwinnett schools, and should be tried as adults. Ashley could not have prevented it, only added to the victim list in my opinion.
By Just a Lilburn Resident
December 28, 2005 10:30 AM | Link to this
The schools, Alvin,parents or campus police do anything to students when they do things like this. The courts will probally let these kids off like they did some kids a couple months ago that pulled a gun on a bus loaded with meadowcreek students. That never seem to hit the news did it…Oh i am sorry i let the cat out of the bag…They were caught went to court and released. No punishment at all.
By Just a Lilburn Resident
December 28, 2005 10:33 AM | Link to this
The parents of Gwinnett need to attend the county shool board meetings. Demanding that the schools take action against these thugs. If these little A* H dont want a education get them the H* out of our school system.
By PE
December 28, 2005 10:52 AM | Link to this
The kids who made the attack are cowards who were taught no better by their parents. Ashley nor Trevor are at fault here - Trevor an unfortunate victim of these TWO cowardly kids who have horrible parents for allowing them to grow up that way. Ashley need not feel guilty either as “what ifs” can ruin you if you allow them to. These COWARDS need to be removed from school permanently, prosecuted as the criminals that they are, banned from getting any type of further education on the tax-payers nickel and commence to flipping burgers. The parents of these cowardly attackers also need to be prosecuted as criminals. Until the punishment for these types of crimes is swift and harsh, this type of cowardly act will continue to happen.
By Dave Oliver
December 28, 2005 12:02 PM | Link to this
Golly, gee whiz, wow! It is impossible for parents to keep their immature child from being a follower of some MEAN teen with leader instict. As a parent you can teach and preach, but the teen with a brain that has been developed to a higher degree than the one he follows will be the only one that adheres to their advice. To bad that their are more followers than leaders. Too much is blamed on the parent, and not enough is blamed on “free will and the development of the brain.” One must go back in time and remember whom he/she followed when a teen, and the immature things he/she did when following one of their leader peers. Believe me as a parent of four grown children and six grown grand children I saw with my own eyes how each acted in their development. Some were leaders and some were followers. The followers are the the most difficult to control after they get their “free will” at about 6 or 7 years of age. Trevor was most likely beaten by one leader and two followers. Again I firmly believe the development of the brain, along with free will is the factor to be confronted. I humbly beg the patience of all readers of this post. Happy New Year!
By Lilburn Parent
December 28, 2005 01:22 PM | Link to this
All, Forgive me if I have missed something… Quite a few are blaming the “school system.”
Don’t get me wrong, I dislike “ALVIN” and his HORRIBLE tactics. He won’t try to “bury” this incident. If this incident happened in a different school district, one with “good” athletic programs… it would be “buried.”
This act happened on school grounds after hours. Is this the reason the “school system” is being blamed?
Did these COWARDS have some history of wreaking havoc during school hours?
Where are their parents hiding? No apologies on behalf of these “punks”… In my opinion they should call a news conference to ‘TELEVISE’ the apology owed Trevor and his family.
By dee
December 28, 2005 01:25 PM | Link to this
Mr. Oliver, you, sir, are one of the parents we are talking about. Children will be children, huh? My father would have loaded us up and took us to the jail. My father was a strict disciplinarian and I can tell you we didn’t get in trouble more than one time. You and people like you who raise or don’t raise children are the problem.
By Michael H. Smith
December 28, 2005 02:08 PM | Link to this
Before the lynch-mob forms to feast on the proverbial pound of raw meat in satisfying vigilantly justice an honest discussion might ensue revealing the absence of prospective?
So far only one commenter has really aroused my primordial instincts void of conscience’s rational restraints so admired by society’s sum total. Meaning, I agree or at least agree in part with most everything the majority of bloggers have thus written.
However, it is doubtful these two young thugs will make appropriate apologies among other necessary amends, and worse, even should the collective wit among us arrive at the best conclusion in reaching our resolve, senseless acts of violence void of conscience’s rational restraints so admired by society’s sum total will persist.
From the day Cain slew Able humanity remains plagued by its’ own barbarities. Video games rife with violence, violent street gangs praised in song and apparel — yea the voice of freedom speaking freely Bruce Almighty –, sanctioned violence applauded as sport thought manly and entertaining, yet our society consumes all of this insatiably, rewarding and adorning it all, as splendorous spectacle.
Can we have this violence cake and eat peacefully too, as the quintessential harmonious humanity?
Please forgive my Cynthia Tucker moment I know it is so unbecoming of a Mossback –
But the problem of senseless violence goes far beyond this one incident concerning the present victims and villains of focus and to his credit Mr. Tim Sanford, whom I must applaud, resounds the voice of reason and brotherly-love.
By dee
December 28, 2005 03:22 PM | Link to this
It took me until just now to understand what you said Mr. Smith. True, nothing we say can change anything. We need to actually take a stand and do something.
By Michael H. Smith
December 28, 2005 05:21 PM | Link to this
As much as the moment begs for unity, it is very much what we say as well do that can only make the positive difference Dee. The next time a child wants a violent video game, say NO! …. and take the time to explain to the child, why you said no. The next time the football game comes on the cable-channel dads, why not take your kid and the neighbor kid down the road you know who needs a good mentor, to the arts center instead indulging yourself the vicarious triumph of someone you envy in some sport. Instead take and spend that time more wisely on the ones you love – shower the people you love with love, tell them and show them the way that you feel. When the gang-bangers show signs of taking root in the community gather the neighborhood kids to get involved in organized adult supervised outdoor activity. While at the local big boys toy store recently I’ll not name, suffice only to say the word Bass, I took a special note of a young man dressed in Scout uniform clean cut and spiffy amongst the swamp of diversity. I couldn’t help but inquire from within my thoughts…. I wonder could any of these gang ruffians face up to the ultimate Mother? Able to live off the land, confronting the bare essences, challenged by Mother Nature in her element?
Such training teaches and builds character to live life by not found presently desirable in a society that purveys senseless violence from dippers back into dirt.
Teach Your Children ( Crosby, Stills and Nash )
You, who are on the road, Must have a code that you can live by. And so, become yourself, Because the past is just a good bye. Teach your children well, Their father’s hell did slowly go by. And feed them on your dreams, The one they picks, the one you’ll know by.
Don’t you ever ask them why, if they told you, you will cry, So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.
And you, of tender years, Can’t know the fears that your elders grew by. And so please help them with your youth, They seek the truth before they can die. Teach your parents well, Their children’s hell will slowly go by. And feed them on your dreams, The one they picks, the one you’ll know by.
Don’t you ever ask them why, if they told you, you will cry, So just look at them and sigh and know they love you…….
I do fear our generation gap has only become the wider in this nation divided.
By Dave Oliver
December 28, 2005 05:46 PM | Link to this
Note to Dee: Thanks for putting me down. That is why I write, to get attention, and I got yours, thanks. If you really belive that your strict father is the answer for the MEAN teens you need help that I can not offer. I take it from your comments that you never did a thing wrong in your life, because you were AFRAID of your father and his punishment. If so, I really feel sorry for you, as it must be horrible to be afraid of your own father. Nothing I can do will change your mind about punishing children; I must say I feel sorry for any child you may now have, or have in future years. Happy New Year, and don’t stay out late, or else.
By Michael H. Smith
December 29, 2005 01:02 AM | Link to this
Your input is needed. Georgia’s Senior Senator is conducting an online poll.
Saxby’s online poll
What is the most important issue you hope Congress will address in 2006?
· Education
· Immigration
· Tax Reform
· Social Security
I realize this leaves the scope of the present blog but because important decisions will be made on Immigration Reform for this country very soon that will set our nation’s course far into the future it is imperative my fellow U.S. American citizens for you to lend your voice to the cause. Please contact Georgia’s Senators Johnny Isakson and Saxby Chambliss to let them know how you feel about Immigration Reform.
By dee
December 29, 2005 09:23 AM | Link to this
My father is deceased and now in my old age I understand why he was strict. He never did spank us or anything. It was him saying how disappointed he was that killed me. Don’t feel sorry for me. Feel sorry for your children because they will probably end up in the penitentiary.
By Dave Oliver
December 29, 2005 12:22 PM | Link to this
Hey Dee, so you will know how my children made out in life, and not let you live the thought of your wish about them being criminals here is what really happened. One is an Attorney, one in a retired Air Force Officer, one is a successful businessman and my daughter is happily married. My grand children line up like this. The eldest dropped out of school and is employed as a landscape employee, the next in line graduates from Dental School next year, the next is an elisted man in the USAF, the next graduated, two weeks ago, from UGA with two degrees, the next is a junior at UGA and the last, my only grand daughter, is a medical student at Ole Miss. Sorry to dissapoint you, but none have been arrested. As I said, “a parent can preach and teach, but it is up to the brain development and the use of their free will that will ultimately makes them MEAN and great citizens. Again, let me wish you, and all, a very happy NEW Year.
By dee
December 29, 2005 12:27 PM | Link to this
well don’t pat yourself opn the back because according to you, you had nothing to do with it. They did it on their own. PS there is still time for them to go bad. As in the case of the dentist……. like the one in Dacula