UPDATED: 9:39 p.m. March 17, 2008
Delta pilots union unable to reach seniority deal


The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 03/17/08

Delta Air Lines' pilots union confirmed Monday that it has failed to reach an agreement with Northwest Airlines' pilots union on how the groups would join ranks if the companies merged.

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Pilot seniority was the sticking point, as it has been for several weeks of on-again, off-again talks. Seniority determines a pilot's pay, schedule and plane assignments.

"Today, I can report that while much was accomplished during a relatively short period of time, we have been unable to reach an agreement on a seniority list integration," Lee Moak, chairman of the Delta unit of the Air Line Pilots Association, wrote in a letter to members, which was posted on the union's Web site.

"Our intent was to accomplish what has never before been done in our industry -- reach a three-party agreement between [the two unions and company management] in advance of any corporate merger announcement," Moak wrote.

A proposed merger between Delta and Northwest isn't necessarily dead. But Atlanta-based Delta has said getting pilots to agree to how they would merge work loads is key to any deal.

A Delta spokesman declined to comment on ALPA's letter, noting that a committee of the airline's board of directors is still looking at various strategic options for the company.

"Delta's special committee of the board remains active and continues to work with the senior leadership team to review ... potential consolidation transactions," said company spokesman Kent Landers.

Industry analyst Ray Neidl said Delta's merger plans are probably on hold. "I think it proves the fact that pilots can't agree on anything and shouldn't be dictating the future of mergers," said Neidl of Calyon Securities in New York.

Still, he added, it was a "smart thing" for Delta to try to get pilots to work out difficult issues ahead of time, given the troubled history of integrating unions in previous airline mergers.

Moak's letter coincides with cost-cutting changes to the airline's operations. Delta is expected Tuesday to announce what it will do to try to offset pressures of record jet fuel prices, possibly including reductions to its capacity and work force.

Most big airlines' shares have plunged about 40 percent this year, especially in recent weeks as fuel prices soared and the Delta-Northwest deal's prospects withered. The proposed merger would create the world's largest airline. Delta's shares fell 4 percent Monday to $9.23; Northwest's shares fell 6 percent to $8.92. The spot price of jet fuel, both airlines' biggest expense, was $3.24 a gallon, down slightly from Friday's all-time record.

Union negotiators have been working since January. A senior Delta pilot and other people familiar with the talks have said the unions worked out most terms of a pact that would have given Northwest pilots about a 30 percent raise over four years and up to a 7 percent stake in the company. Delta's higher-paid pilots would have received a smaller pay hike, but equal equity.

Moak said the unions' negotiating committees and management reached a tentative agreement in the third week of February on all issues except seniority.

But seniority is especially complicated: Roughly 2,000 of Delta's most senior pilots retired before the carrier filed for bankruptcy in 2005. That means many Delta pilots could have been demoted under the integration scenario favored by Northwest's union, or that Northwest's more senior pilots could have faced diminished promotion prospects under the plan Delta's union favored.

"We presented a rational and fair integration method" aimed at reaching a compromise quickly, Moak wrote. "The other committee took another approach," he said, referring to Northwest's union, also a unit of ALPA.

Union negotiators were reached an impasse last weekend, Moak wrote: The Northwest union's final proposal "would jeopardize the seniority and career expectations of Delta pilots."

A spokesman for the pilots union at Eagan, Minn.-based Northwest, Greg Rizzuto, told the Associated Press on Monday that his union "still values any deal to help better the careers of all pilots involved in any type of future merger or acquisition with any pilot group, and due to the rising cost of oil it is imperative that a fair integration of seniority lists be found between any group."

Delta and Northwest put their negotiations on hold last month to give the pilots' unions time to resolve remaining issues. The airlines wanted such issues worked out ahead of time to avoid delays and employee and political opposition later.

US Airways and AmericaWest did not get pre-merger agreements from their pilots before they combined in 2005. Today, those pilots still are working under separate seniority lists and contracts, weighing down operational integration.

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By TDT

Mar 19, 2008 4:20 AM | Link to this

Use to Work at Delta for 15.5 years. Glad I'm not there anymore.

By zeke

Mar 18, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this

Fire them all and hire new pilots with an agreement to ban unionization! When an employee or employees can dictate the business to the owners or managers , it reeks of socialist communism! Follow the lead of Ronnie and fire them, replace them!

By John

Mar 18, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

WHAT IS SO HARD, IT'S NOT BRAIN SURGERY...PUT THE TWO GROUPS TOGETHER BY DATE OF EMPLOYMENT...

By John

Mar 18, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

WHAT IS SO HARD, IT'S NOT BRAIN SURGERY...PUT THE TWO GROUPS TOGETHER BY DATE OF EMPLOYMENT...

By O. Wright

Mar 18, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

Guys, donýt bait the pilots. It is an article of faith with airline pilots that everyone envies them, that everyone is jealous of their jobs, that they work 175 hours a week, that they are godlike supermen in the air and conspicuously better than anyone else when on the ground, and that women desire them. If they are ex-military, they won World War 2 / Vietnam / Gulf 1 / Gulf 2 single-handedly. And they could easily run their airline much better than its current management if they had not chosen a higher calling.

Low self-esteem is not a problem with airline pilots.

By P R

Mar 18, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Delta has already seen what happens under operational inefficiency, so why consider a merger of two large-scale carriers- especially when unions are involved? Delta has a lot of long-term issues it needs to address before taking on a merger.

By Rudy

Mar 18, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

Dear "Pilots cry too much,"
It only takes one click on the "Post" button to submit your rant.

By WHAAA!

Mar 18, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Dave,

I hate to tell you this, but your brother is lying to when it comes to his W2's. I have a copy of Delta's Pilot Agreement and a pilot working since 1992 is making a whole lot more than $48,000.00/yr. And that's in their smallest aircrafts. Sell crazy some place else. And don't go saying they are responsible for the lives of 450 (or whatever #) people every day. There are a lot more important jobs in the world than being a pilot. The sun does not rise and set on pilots. Tell your brother that he needs to just accept the merger and move on. Pilots are gung ho on crippling airline companies. They think it's better for all 55,000 employees to be out of a job, rather than them giving into a few sticking points. If it were me, I'd merge the two companies, fire both union groups (and the flight attendants), rehire and train all new crew members and ramp up an brand new operation in 2009. Pilots can be replaced. And they should.

By Notworking

Mar 18, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

My guess is poster Joe is the one "sitting at work, behind a desk, and are typing comments on a public forum instead of WORKING. "

Now that would be hypocritical.

By Km

Mar 18, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

Joe,

Your comment is irrelevant since you have no idea if posters work or not. They may work nights or be off on Tuesdays, etc. etc.

Try again, but think it through.

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