MOMania

By MA

August 28, 2008 7:56 AM | Link to this

My son in College is probably not watching but can vote now and will in Nov. My daughter in High School watches when we watch. We don’t watch all of it. She is getting more and more interested in the whole process. She loves History.

By JJ

August 28, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

No, we are not watching.

I am just about fed up with Obamamania. I’m tired of all the hype about the first Black man to run. First of all, he isn’t BLACK, he is mixed and has some white in him. It’s like calling my daughter Black because she is mixed. There’s white in there too. But to constantly call Obama black just bothers me.

That and I can’t stand any of the speakers at the DNC…..

By Bored with it

August 28, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

Politics always strikes me as voting for the lesser of 2 evils…in this case I’m not sure either one is the lesser…and neither is “worthy” for lack of a better word…of being President. Say what you will…my kids care about it about as much as I do…which is not at all.

By Band Mom Gone Wild

August 28, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

No way! First of all, what a waste of time! Why would I want to waste perfectly good waking hours watching a bunch of people kissing each other’s @sses when they can barely stand each other in real life?! Secondly, they’re not going to say anything that I haven’t already heard for the upteen-millionth time this week. They couldn’t tell the truth if it were to save their lives. I’m a big girl who doesn’t appreciate being lied to again and again. Just tell me the truth, good or bad; I can take it. Give me honest answers to hard questions. Admit that you can’t “fix” anything in just four years. Admit that you can only lay the groundwork and hope that those coming after you can help the needed changes along. Thirdly, Obama scares the poo out of me. He gives me a very, very bad feeling and has since I first saw him speak. And before someone says it, I could care less what color he is, or how young he is. The man just seems evil.

By Kathy

August 28, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

We are watching the Dems this week and plan to watch next week as well. My 3 year old is typically in bed at 10, but yesterday she had a weird nap at 6 so we let her stay up longer. She was having her before-bed snack while the convention was on so we talked about it with her….well, as much as you can with a toddler. She was mostly trying to pronounce Barack Obama and was having a good time giggling about that. As she grows and matures, we plan to encourage her to watch with us and educate her about the voting process and what it means to have a choice about your elected officials, even though you may not like all the choices and the elected officials don’t always live up to their hype. We set a good example for her by education ourselves about issues and then exercising our right to vote, something that other countries are still fighting for. Voting for some may mean choosing “the lesser of two evils” but at least we get the chance to choose. Okay, I’m off the soapbox now! Oh wait……

@Bored with it…..what a bad attitude! And what’s even worse is that you project that onto your children. No wonder the youth of this country are growing up lazy, ignorant and hopeless.

By Annie

August 28, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

Band Mom Gone Wild

I can’t agree with you more re Obama; nothing against his race or anything like that - I just haven’t liked him or trusted him from the first day I clapped eyes on him. I feel he’s got ulterior motives, a hidden agenda, and he flat out scares the bejesus out of me!

I’m normally a Democrat but this time I’ll either not vote or I’ll vote Republican.

Theresa have you told your kids yet that basically their vote in a presidential election counts for nothing? That if they want any say in the running of things, they need to pay attention to smaller elections, those they elect make up the electoral college?

By Joyce

August 28, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

The only “on-point” discussion we had was last night when during the news they showed Hillary Clinton moving to stop the roll-call vote. I explained (in 6-year-old terms)what the normal process of the roll call was and a little bit of the procedures at a convention. Last night was the first time in years that I’d even seen a roll call, so I thought it was a good chance to talk about the process. We’ll probably review some during the GOP convention next week, but my son’s only seeing the stuff reported on the news for now. Mostly everything else (speeches) are way after his bedtime.

By JJ

August 28, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Kathy You really let your 3 year old stay up until 10:00 p.m.???

By motherjanegoose

August 28, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

We watched Rick Warren’s interview and I thought it was interesting. My 16 year old daughter hung with me…her Dad was not here, he was out with our son at a Braves game.

I mentioned this to my husband the other day….its seems EVERYONE has skeletons in their closet and integrity is not the most respected word.

I have made many mistakes in my life but my clients will tell you…” she does what she says she will do…” I did have one potential client, this summer ,who never got back with me to confirm the work or date and called me the night before after 9:00 ( remember my 9:00 rule). I told her I was not coming because we did not confirm and she was mad. She contacted me a few weeks earlier and I sent things her way and that was it…I never made a commitment to her, as I was waiting to hear back. She never followed through. A lesson to be learned.

It does not set right with me when people lie openly to the public or make promises that they will NOT be able to keep. To me…lying is a deal breaker because it becomes a habit…I may be the only one who feels this way.

FYI…there is no magical USA pot of gold to pull money out of. If money has to be allocated, it will be taken from someone else’s pocket…that is called taxes. I do NOT mind helping those who need help ( I regularly do do by writing checks and donating things to charity) but I put myself through college ( worked the entire time catlady and this is why my kids will work too…I respect your opinion but my kids will work…sometimes we form our opinions based on what we have done and in this case it is true for me). I have ALWAYS worked in some capacity for the nearly 26 years we have been married. Yes, we have things but we WORKED for them. It is also good for your self esteem to earn your own way.

If you truly need help, I am there for you but I hate handouts.

If even 20% of America is getting a handout…look yourself in the mirror…many of YOU will be paying for it. I do not care if someone is making $200,000 per year ( we are NOT and never will) they are probably working VERY hard and deserve it.

It is not fair to take what they have and send it over to those who are simply want a slice of the American pie too ( with ice cream on top…mortgage failure for those who wanted bigger and better)…..hello?

Enough rambling for me….let’s see what others have to say.

By dawn

August 28, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

Kathy,

I totally agree with you on your last comment.

I remember watching both conventions as a child and have always been interested in politics, history, and current events. I remember going into the voting booth with my grandmother (a staunch Republican) and having her talk about how she remembered getting the right to vote and what a privilege it was. She was a 19-year old newlywed when women gained the right to vote and even though my grandfather tried to make her vote the way he wanted her to, she made up her own mind when the time came for her to vote.

My sons are too young to stay up late enough to see any meaningful part of the convention(s), but I have talked to my oldest who is five about the candidates and what the Presidency means in this country. I took him with me when I went to vote in the primary this summer and talked about it then.

I think the only way to encourage civic awareness and pride in children is to talk to them about it.

Especially if you’re unhappy with the status quo and you think all politicians are crooks. Figure out what you think they should be and do and the values you want them to represent and discuss those things with your kids.

To borrow a phrase, be the change you want to see in the world.

If we don’t teach our kids to think about issues and how individuals like Barack Obama or John McCain can make a difference, how will they learn that they can make a difference in the world.

So, yes. We are watching the convention and even though he’s not watching with us, I am talking to my son about politics.

Hopefully, he will learn to form his own opinions just as I did even if they vary from mine or his Dad’s.

By jct

August 28, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

We are watching with our 17 year old. He likes history and it is interesting to hear his opinions about the political process.

We will watch the republican convention on next week as well.

We want our son to know that you can achieve anything if you put in the hard work and don’t allow others to manifest your destiny.

Even if you don’t like the parties, not understanding the political process will get you and your family into a world of hurt. It’s about navigating systems.

By Jennifer

August 28, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

As their parent, I expect my teenagers to not only watch and read about politics but form some opinions and thoughts. Especially this election which will set the path for their early adulthood years. Beyond that, their individual motivation will take them further down the path of engagement or not ;volunteering, making personal stances, talking with friends, and listening to other peoples perspectives. It is a privilege to have the right to vote and freely express your opinion in this world - and our children have to value this democratic process if we want to move our country toward a more perfect union.

By JJ

August 28, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

My daughter is very upset that she is not of age to vote in this election. She has already made up her mind who she would have voted for.

By deidre_NC

August 28, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

i cant bring myself to watch..one of my best friends is watching intensely and gives me a play by play-she too thinks obama is evil. i dont know. i just pray to god for wisdom. wish we could and would all just vote for him!! there is just something about people running for office (mainly pres) that kills me. i may like someone but by the time they have finished acting like baby brats on a playgound slinging mud and sand everywhere i just usually cant stand any of them. it seems like candidates expect to get voted for by running the other one down to the ground instead of their own merits. my kids are not into politics at all. i usually vote in local elections. the few pres elections i have voted in i have ended up so sorry for voting that way i hesitate to vote!

By My3Kids

August 28, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

I am watching the DNC in passing. It maybe on the TV but I only pay attention to what I want. I agree with JJ and Band Mom. I am over the Obama Hype and I don’t need to watch everyone kiss each others butt. Plus I am not impressed with Obama’s wife. I will also watch the Republican Conference in passing when it is on. I prefer reading politics and listening to debates.

As for talking politics with my children, I really don’t. One reason I don’t is the baby is young, my middle one is also young (in my opinion), and my oldest doesn’t have much interest, but she is also a little slow on grasping the ideas. They do listen to me talk politics with my sister, friends, and my husband.

My 6 yr old is really starting to listen to the news more and she does ask questions. I will answer any question as truthfully as I can. My 14 yr old doesn’t ask me as many questions though. And I will answer the same as I do with her sister.

My parents really drove being republican into me as a child. However, as I got older I realized that i did not always agree with the republican views and I do not agree with all the democrats. I prefer voting on the person and their plan and how it affects me, my family, my community, my country, and my world. And that is what I want my children to do. Which also maybe a big reason why I probably don’t discuss politics with them unless they ask.

By My3Kids

August 28, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

I am watching the DNC in passing. It maybe on the TV but I only pay attention to what I want. I agree with JJ and Band Mom. I am over the Obama Hype and I don’t need to watch everyone kiss each others butt. Plus I am not impressed with Obama’s wife. I will also watch the Republican Conference in passing when it is on. I prefer reading politics and listening to debates.

As for talking politics with my children, I really don’t. One reason I don’t is the baby is young, my middle one is also young (in my opinion), and my oldest doesn’t have much interest, but she is also a little slow on grasping the ideas. They do listen to me talk politics with my sister, friends, and my husband.

My 6 yr old is really starting to listen to the news more and she does ask questions. I will answer any question as truthfully as I can. My 14 yr old doesn’t ask me as many questions though. And I will answer the same as I do with her sister.

My parents really drove being republican into me as a child. However, as I got older I realized that i did not always agree with the republican views and I do not agree with all the democrats. I prefer voting on the person and their plan and how it affects me, my family, my community, my country, and my world. And that is what I want my children to do. Which also maybe a big reason why I probably don’t discuss politics with them unless they ask.

By ayoungmom

August 28, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

How can we expect our society and our world to grow and improve, if we don’t take the time to educate our children about all aspects of life, work and civic responsibility. We have been watching the DNC and I am talking to my five year old, answering questions as they come up and giving information on an age appropriate level. I am not trying to indoctrinate her, I just want her to know. We even played a map game last night when they did the role call. She’s learning and having fun.

I hope to instill a lifelong interest in the world out our little pocket.

And she is excited about things and convinced that she’ll be voting for Barack Obama :)

By dawn

August 28, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

My3Kids: they’re never too young to start absorbing their parents attitudes.

If you feel passionately about something your kids will pick up on it.

If you believe (as I do) that every vote counts (look at the 1992 and 2000 elections and the effect had on those by third-party voting!), then your children will pick up on that and believe the same.

There really is a lack of interest in politics in Generation Y and younger that will profoundly impact our country and I think a great deal of that disinterest stems from parents who checked out and didn’t teach any strong civic values to their kids.

By the way, I’m not criticizing you. I’m just saying our kids pick up on what we believe even if we don’t talk directly to them about a particular issue.

By K_Chub

August 28, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

My son is currently to young to understand politics, but when he gets a little older I fully believe that teaching him about out political process is an essential part his overall education. We live in a democracy that depends on it’s citizens to be actively engaged in the political process. I believe that should start at a young age. I am really tired of hearing people who are so cynical about our political system that they find it a waste of time to educate their children on our system of government and our elected leaders. That is complete ignorance and nothing else.

What makes our country great is our political system which guarantees our freedoms enabling us to live out the American dream. Over the past decade or so our freedom’s have been eroding and I firmly believe that is due in large part to an uneducated, uniformed and ignorant public. That so many people just don’t seem to care about the future of this country anymore is alarming and quite frankly it’s scary to think about what it means for our future. There is so much ignorance and apathy in our country these days it’s no wonder our government is controlled by special interests - the People stopped holding our elected officials accountable a long time ago.

I look forward to educating my son on our unique system of government, and I relish the day when my he is knowledgable enough to disagree with me and have his own beliefs.

By Julie

August 28, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

WOW -I am really surprised (although I guess I shouldn’t be) at how many of you just either don’t care or refuse to participate in our political process. THAT is why a lot of things are in a HUGE mess! I think it’s extremely important to teach our children about our government and electoral system. I don’t care who you’re for or against, but at least get into it at some level! My child is only 2, so he’s not watching it this time, but I plan to take him with me to vote and start explaining it to him. If you hate Obama and McCain -find a third party and explain to your child that things have gotten out of hand in this nation and third parties are really given short shrift -but explain it! Maybe one of our kids will actually help form or head a third party that could really make a difference one day.

Like it or not, the President still matters -that person vetoes or signs bills into law and is the face we as a nation present to the world.

By parentof4

August 28, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

No I do not watch the conventions. Why stay up late when I can see the highlights, i.e. the entire speech without commercials and all that jazz on Youtube. I let my kids then watch the speeches on Youtube.

I teach my children about politics, who am I to say they will not grow up to be one of those representatives.

Funny story, apparently I am not a good teacher on politics. My middle son (who is 10) honestly belived the President had died and that is why we had to vote for a new president. He thought the country did not have one.

By lovelyliz

August 28, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

My neice, at the behest of her father’s family, attends a Christian school. It’s been a concern of my sister’s that her daughter is being indoctrinated politically so she often discusses politics at a level that will make a 12 year old think. You would be surprised by how many of the kids at this school think Obama is a not so secret Muslim and that John McCain is such a morally upright man. Now my sister is a registered Republican and at the beginnning supported the presumptive GOP nominee, but when she hears the things that these school children are saying, she’ll ask her daughter to prove or justify. She’s teaching her child that you can’t believe everything you hear and that there are shades of gray in politics.

By motherjanegoose

August 28, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Yes, if those of us who are earning the $$$ become apathetic and do not vote…then, those who want our money will show up in droves and take it after the election…are you comprehending this?

I am not thrilled with either candidate but I do not want to work harder while others are taking what I have already earned.

By red_dirt_girl

August 28, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Teach Your Children!! OK, a lot of ya’ll are not going to like this … I lived in the ATL for 12 years and now live outside of D.C. I was in Cancun earlier this summer and ran into some young men (20-somethings) from GA and was talking with them. I asked them “who are ya’ll thinking about voting for in the election?” One guy says to me,”well, we hope McCain wins the nomination but if Hillary wins, we’ll vote for her … we sure won’t vote for that (fill in expletive).” The others nodded their heads in agreement. I was a little taken aback, first because of the language used in a public place (we were on a bus on the way downtown) and second because these guys had no idea (and probably didn’t care) what is going on. I know this doesn’t just happen in GA but, please teach your children —- it IS critical to the future of our country!!!

By K_Chub

August 28, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Motherjanegoose,

Actually people in higher income groups vote in much higher numbers than those in lower income groups. Are you comprehending this?

By Numbers Guy

August 28, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

The boy is only 7. He’s getting a toned-down primer on elections, primarily the civic duty aspect of things, but we try not to immerse him in it - this time. As he gets older, he’ll become more involved.

I don’t watch the conventions in a year when there’s some doubt to the outcome, so I surely won’t watch when the nominees are foregone conclusions.

The only thing that’s at all relevant is what’s said in the speeches, and I rarely listen to those live in any case or in any forum. I read the transcripts later. I find that when you take out the inflections, the facial expressions and the spin and simply READ the IDEAS presented, it’s a whole different (and more honest) ballgame. You get what he actually said, not what he wanted you to hear. Gives a lot more insight to the person you’re considering voting for.

As for not voting at all, it’s still a free country, so do what you wish. If you can’t be bothered to vote, though, do NOT let me hear you whining about the government - ever. You had your shot at input, and you blew it.

By DB

August 28, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

OF COURSE we talk politics!! My son, away at college, and I were chatting to each other on AIM while watching Hillary’s speech at the DNC the other night, and making the same comments as if he were sitting next to me on the sofa watching it. My daughter was watching as part of a school assignment, and had some insightful observations on the speeches, too. She is taking government this semester, and is excited to have a Presidential election to structure the class around!

The results of politics is what we ALL have to live with. I may not be immersed in the minutiae of every-day politics, but yes, we discuss politics. And the day after my son turned 18, he proudly went down to the North Fulton annex on his own and registered to vote. (Of course, he’s been summoned for jury duty twice in the last 20 months — but as I pointed out, “if you were on trial, wouldn’t you want someone like you, who was smart and cared about doing the right thing, on the jury?”)

I have tried to teach my children that it is possible to discuss politics without judgemental arguing — the trick, I think, is not to take the other side’s position personally. Unfortunately, when many people discuss politics, they tend to take opposing viewpoints as personal attacks, not as an expression of personal viewpoints. As I gently tell someone who may be turning red in the face disagreeing with me, “Well, that’s why we vote, right? So you can get your opinion out there, and so can I.” It’s not a question of “right” or “wrong” — just like the butterfly effect, EVERY action has a reaction, even if it may not be discernable for years to come — i.e. letting Osama bin Laden go back in the 90’s …

If you don’t discuss what is going on in the world around them with your children, how can you possibly expect them to understand it, relate to it, work within it as a productive citizen, and, perhaps, want to take steps to perhaps improve it?

By Kathy

August 28, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

JJ….I do not normally let my 3 yo stay up until 10. To make a long story short and to spare you the details of our day, yesterday was a weird nap day and so she was up a little late. Normally, she is in bed by 8:30 at the latest.

By motherjanegoose

August 28, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

K chub…thanks for sharing about the voting ratios…since they ( higher income) will be footing the bill…I guess that seems fair….LOL!

By FCM

August 28, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

Not watching that crap party in Denver. So, no.

PUMA!!!!!

The kids and I do however do discuss the issues, and some about the candidates. I try to keep them in the dark about whom I vote for…otherwise they tell the world and its not anybody’s business.

I am hoping McCain will pick my man Romney as his running mate.

By new mom

August 28, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Morning all!

I haven’t been online much this week—been a bit under the weather. I have learned that there are no ‘mommy sick days’! So I’ve been doing what I can to take care of baby, keep the house as clean as possible, and resting when I can.

Of course our 11 month old is too young to understand politics, but I have taken her with me each time I’ve voted, telling her how important it is to vote. I’m sure she heard blah blah blah…like the Charlie Brown teacher! But I still teach her what I can; we never know when she will start understanding…

As far as politics go, I think I will try to focus on two aspects: It is important to be educated, know the process, know who believes what, etc. But it is just as important to know what YOU believe. I don’t think it’s necessarily my place to tell her ‘you need to be a _ and vote for _’ but I would rather us discuss it, and her tell me ‘I will vote for _ because he/she believes what I do.’ So we will always talk about politics, but try to keep the focus on the issues, and how they relate to our beliefs.

And motherjanegoose, speaking as your ‘clone’, our feelings on the tax system are pretty much the same. My husband just got a raise and a promotion—yipee! But I can’t tell you that we noticed much of a difference in his take-home at all, I think the entire increase is going to taxes. Our system is so flawed; it rewards failure and laziness and punishes success and ambition. Until that mindset changes, I don’t know if things will ever improve.

By FCM

August 28, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

A good friend of mine pointed out that Hitler promised change too.

By My3Kids

August 28, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Dawn, I know you weren’t critizing me. They do pick up on what on how I feel and their father feels. I think I said it in my earlier post (probably no though with my morning) that my middle daughter is more intriqued by the idea of politics. She will ask more questions and I try to answer them as truthfully as I can to her.

My oldest is starting to get there. She knows how I feel more than my middle one because she is older. I know she will be asking more questions as she gets to those classes in school. Currently the only thing she is interested in when it comes to politics is the history of it.

I have taught them not to believe everything they hear and read, so hopefully they will keep that in them when they are older.

By Jason

August 28, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Ladies (that’s the majority of writers thus far): I’ve got to tell you that I am a die-hard Conservative who would not vote for a Democrat is my life depended on it. Now, having said that, I will admit that I have no problem with BO - race, ethnicity or otherwise; I do, however, have a serious problem with his liberal politics. I would vote for a black or a woman if he/she shared my political philosophies. I wouldn’t want to advertise this, but I would like to see a woman in the White House for a change (a real change!). I, too, am tired of the back-biting and chest-thumping. I think a woman would bring in something a man cannot and that’s some heart. Oh well, I respect BO and what he has done and really like the guy - it’s just not his time yet. BTW, Hillary ain’t the woman to get the WH either - too much negative baggage. There are qualified blacks and women (n both parties) who can fill the bill but we gotta get the old guard out first. You Go Girls!

By JJ

August 28, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

newMom Hope you are feeling better. I know what its like to be sick with a baby…. they don’t understand.

By Gwinnett Mom

August 28, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

I do talk to my kids about politics. I talk to them about the right to vote and as women what we went though during sufferage to earn the right to vote. I get very upset when I hear other people speak to their children about politics. “I told my kid if he votes for a democrate I’ll throw him out of the house.” I once heard a kid say “I hate Democrats.” I am a Democrat and my husband is a Republican. My daughter asked me “What am I?” I told her that as she grows up she will have to read and pay attention to the issues and make up her own mind about that. It is something that each person has to choose for herself. The man that told his son he would throw him out if he voted republican probably doesn’t see the irony in his attidute when he has “Fight for Freedom” bumper stickers on his car. So we’ll fight to give Afghanistan the freedom to vote but he won’t give his own son that freedom. Makes me sick.

By keithb

August 28, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

They are all evil. When you are voting in an election, you are voting for the lesser of two evils. So to say one is evil means you are very blind. Since this country is founded by crooks, it will continue to be ran by crooks. Nothing has changed or will change but the faces. Parties do not matter and conventions do not matter. Politics is the study of power and control, which no one here has. It’s all an illusion that the public is foolish enough to believe in. Get enough fools to follow in what you say, prey on their beliefs and you have a fool for life to use as you please.

By keithb

August 28, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

They are all evil. When you are voting in an election, you are voting for the lesser of two evils. So to say one is evil means you are very blind. Since this country is founded by crooks, it will continue to be ran by crooks. Nothing has changed or will change but the faces. Parties do not matter and conventions do not matter. Politics is the study of power and control, which no one here has. It’s all an illusion that the public is foolish enough to believe in. Get enough fools to follow in what you say, prey on their beliefs and you have a fool for life to use as you please.

By Jesse's Girl

August 28, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

If they ask questions….we answer. We did explain the Electoral College to them and they laughed! Our oldest said….”Well, we aren’t all farmers anymore and we can get around in a very timely manner to vote and let our voices be heard! They should blow up the Electoral College”. To which our middle daughter replied…” Well, that settles it…I am so NOT going to THAT college”!

By pj

August 28, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

My daughter is 13 and interested. She has not been watching, but I’ve taped it so we can watch together this weekend. We are black and she goes to a mojority white school, so I’ve told her to keep her opinion to herself. Her classmates all seem to think Obama is a terrorist. I am not certain of my feelings about him, but I am quite certain that I cannot survive four more years of the economic mess that I’ve endured for the past eight. I plan to watch next week to see if I can get a better feel for McCain, but if he is a rubber stamp for Bush, I cannot support that. My daughter has been going to vote with me since she was 3 and cannot wait until she is able to do so. I am especially proud of that, as not so very long ago she would not have been allowed to vote.

By motherjanegoose

August 28, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

new mom…you are such a riot. We do tend to share some valid opinions.
I am happy your are feeling better. I remember vomiting with a 2 year old in tow and my husband working midnights. We had nothing for fluids. This was when I started with the SACRED BOTTLE OF GATORADE….no one touches this unless they are sick and then it can be opened. It is replaced with a new bottle as soon as we can get to the store.

I wish they would put Condeleesa ( sp/) Rice on the ticket…that would stir up a lot of interest and I would vote for her ticket…Jason, are you in?

By Theresa

August 28, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

hey new mom — hope you feel better — it totally stinks to be home sick wiht the baby - you are right - there are no sick days —

jessie’s girl - love the story — that’s totally somethign walsh would say!!

By Flava

August 28, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

First of all, Obama is black. Sorry JJ but if your skin is black then you are perceived as black and your are black. It does not matter if your mama is white. He is the first black man to be a major party candidate for president whether you like it or not. If you all liked what GW Bush did then, by all means, vote for McCain. He voted with Bush 95% of the time and he will do everything just like Bush. And just like Bush he is a pretty dumb man who got everywhere because of who his daddy was. He got into Annapolis with poor grades because his daddy was an Admiral. He got into pilot school even though he graduated near the bottom of his class because his daddy was an admiral. He was not prosecuted for starting the fire on the Forestal that killed over 100 sailors because his daddy was an admiral. He crashed four airplanes while a pilot. A poor pilot and a dumb man. But Republicans are obviously quite comfortable with stupidity. I, myself, will be voting for the man who is very obviously the smarter of the two; the one who did not leave a faithful first wife so he could marry a rich woman and become a politician; the one who did not graduate near the bottom of his class; the one who has the best judgment and the better vision for this country; and the one who does not kiss Bush’s behind. I am voting for Obama.

By new mom

August 28, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Thanks, y’all are so sweet! It’s been a head cold (I think) but with a touch of being run over by a truck thrown in. I am a bit better today, I think the trucked has backed up and moved off my body…

By Emma

August 28, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

JJYes, Obama is BLACK. His father was BLACK. Yes his mother is white, but in today’s society, they don’t care if you are a 1/4 BLACK. If you have any percentage of BLACK you are BLACK!!!! Likewise, I know so many mixed people, but if you ask others they are BLACK!!

By SaveOurRepublic

August 28, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

I don’t watch the 2 divisions of the same Globalist controlled machine’s propaganda spectacles myself. They’re a dog & pony show meant to deceive the populace into thinking they have a “choice” between the 2 (controlled) sides of the same coin!

However, I have told my son some basics about the founding of our Constitutional Republic and our system of government. When he gets older, I’ll educate him further on how the many sellouts in D.C. haven taken this Nation far from the Constitutional principles we were founded on.

http://www.jbs.org

By Disco Nap

August 28, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

I understand that some of us are Democrats and some are Republicans and some of us would never vote for a person of the opposite party no matter what. Fine. But all these lame excuses for not liking Obama! Ridiculous! “He’s not really black.” “He’s a terrorist” “I don’t know what it is but I just don’t trust him” “He’s arrogant” All are either vague or completely untrue. If you believe Obama is a muslim or a terrorist then I have to tell you that you are either either delusional or dumb. That’s all there is to it. If you hate him because he’s arrogant, then, excuse me, an arrogant politician. Yeah, he’s the first one of those I have seen! I think you just don’t like a confident black man. You know, when you see a confident, successful black man, you see an arrogant, uppity ni—er(your feelings, not mine). If there is something you just don’t like about him, then you need to learn to articulate your feelings and face the fact that what you may not like about him is the fact that he is black or has a muslim name. And if that is the case then you are bigot. If you just don’t like Democrats or whatever, then fine, but most of the reasons I have heard are simply invalid or are veiled racism.

By Jess

August 28, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

Kathy, If you think we believe that you discuss politics with your 3 year old you must be totally off your rocker.

By JJ

August 28, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

I think the hype about Obama being black, is to get black voters to the polls. I have no problem with that, as everyone has the RIGHT to vote….

I do know the black voting population doesn’t show very strong when the voting time comes.

Maybe this year, we can get more of them to the polls.

By Numbers Guy

August 28, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

You’re absolutely correct that Obama is not Muslim and is not a terrorist. Talk about fear tactics. He does, however, own the most liberal voting record in Congress. That’s why I won’t vote for him.

However, since he is black, even though I’m voting based on issues, I get to hear dimwits like Disco Nap tell me I’m a racist who doesn’t like successful black people. Got much of a chip on that shoulder, Disco Nap?

If he wins, we all get to live through 4 (or maybe 8?) years of that crap.

By BigPerm

August 28, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

“SaveOurRepublic”, “Flava”, & “DiscoNap”….you 3 are true knuckleheads. You’ve all been drinking too much of the spiked kool-aid. I hope you 3 are celibate, abstinate, or too ugly to find a mate because we sure don’t need anymore knuckleheads like you running around!!!

By Nicole

August 28, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

I’m a 29 year old mom and I am definitely talking politics with my 6 and 7 year old boys. I am energized by this election. I am sending out emails to all of my friends letting them know when advance voting begins in their area and where they can vote in advance at. I have taken my boys with me to the library when we have voted and have let them actually select the candidates that I have chosen. I explain to them what’s going on and my 7 year old is an excited Barack Obama supporter. There is so much at stake in this election I feel as if I would be derelect in my duties as a mom if I didn’t share in this process with my boys.

By gigi

August 28, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

I believe that this country is seriously off track and four more years of this will seriously burden this country. I am a lifelong Democrat and loved the Clintons, but will vote for Barak Obama come November.

Those that say that Barack “scares” them really need to look at why this is so—the media continues to give its viewers the message that Black is evil. And while, I recognize that there is Black crime, there is crime everywhere.

By GA in TX

August 28, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

NumbersGuy, I believe it is you who has the chip on his shoulder.

I suspect that DiscoNap was responding to all the posters who indicated that they were “afraid” of Obama or that, even though they were Democrats, that he seems “evil”.

He didn’t attack people who weren’t planning on voting for Obama, he attacked people who made baseless and irrational statements about the man.

By DM

August 28, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

JJ: Black people did not create the definition for who is black and who is not—white people did, with the “one drop rule,” that states that a person with any trace of African ancestry is considered black unless having an alternative non-white ancestry which he or she can claim, such as Native American, Asian, Arab, or Australian aboriginal.

Tennessee adopted a one-drop statute in 1910. It was followed by Louisiana the same year, Texas and Arkansas in 1911, Mississippi in 1917, North Carolina in 1923, Virginia in 1924, Alabama and Georgia in 1927, and Oklahoma in 1931. During this same period, Florida, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Utah retained their old “blood fraction” statutes , but amended these fractions (one-sixteenth, one-thirtysecond) to be equivalent to one-drop de facto.

America created this rule; everyone else is just following America’s lead, so don’t blame the messengers.

By Numbers Guy

August 28, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

“If there is something you just don’t like about him, then you need to learn to articulate your feelings and face the fact that what you may not like about him is the fact that he is black or has a muslim name. And if that is the case then you are bigot.”

Seems clear to me. It’s an infinitesimal step from there to anyone who doesn’t like him is a bigot. Giving you the (rather broad) benefit of the doubt that our friend Disco hasn’t made that leap, I’ll guarantee you there are legions of people out there who will - eagerly.

By DB

August 28, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

Please, please folks — let’s not let this particular blog turn into a political tomato-throwing contest. The question was: Do you talk to your kids about politics? It was not “who do you favor and why”. There is neither time or space enough to capture everyone’s opinions on this election, and, just like polite company, I’d really rather not discuss politics or religion with you fine folk.

By Jesse's Girl

August 28, 2008 7:53 PM | Link to this

I just think he’s inexperienced. I’d prefer for the next leader of the Free World to not use our Presidency as a trial run. His choice in a VP is insane. Less than 1 year ago, Biden was interviewed natioanlly and was quoted as saying that “Obama is not ready for this” And thats true..unless of course he asks you to be his BFF and run for VP beside him. An Obama/Biden ticket is silly on so many levels….his race is the least of my worries.

By Kathy

August 29, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this

JJ…NO I don’t talk about politics with my 3 yo!!! The convention was on and she asked who was on the TV. We told her it was a man speaking about the next potential “boss of the country Barack Obama.” She proceeded to spend the next 10 minutes trying to pronounce Obama’s name. Happy with that explanation?!?!?!?!? BTW….she passed out on the couch yesterday at 5:30pm and slept for 13 hours. I hope her sleep clock is fixed now! She had quite the day yesterday…..visiting preschool for the first time and playing in the pool all afternoon (with sunscreen! so JJ can’t jump on me for being a bad mom about that!) so she was pooped. No covention watching for her last night!

By JJ

August 29, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

Kathy That wasn’t me, it was Jess at 1:48 wanting to know if you discussed politics with your baby.

And I’m not jumping on you for being a bad mom. I simply asked if you kept your 3 year old up until 10:00 every night. That’s all. Have a wonderful weekend.

By FCM

August 29, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

Good morning and Happy Friday!

I have given this a lot of thought. There are reasons that people think there is something evil coming out of the Dem Mouth… The comment my good friend was not stated to act like a troll….

Obama promises health care for all, he promises college funding, he promises school funding, hiring teachers at a federal level, education at the federal level, decrease the military, concentrate on homeland, screw the foriegn relations, and all done with a 28% increase in taxes.

That’s Socialism in America. That is what scares the He## out of you. And it should…Be Smart and Vote Intelligently.

By Jaggy

August 29, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

My 13 year old had to watch part of the Democrat convention for school. AS Ted Kennedy was speaking, I had to recount for him Ted’s antics from years back, which of course the media will ignore. And in a teachable moment, as we were walking last night, we saw a bumper sticker that read “I’d rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy”. A week ago he would have ignored it-last night, he laughed.

By lovin life

August 29, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

good points and well thought out fcm.
Kathy (and JJ I am defending you here) I was hurt by some things JJ said a while back too, but then I learned after staying on this blog for a while that she has a good heart and good intentions. She just puts it out there and sometimes can sound a little harsh, but she never means it that way. She says what she thinks. I kind of resepct that because I usually over think everything before I type it. IF you watch she puts her whole life out there. We know she is a single mom of a 17 yr old, who frusterates her some times (how is the job hunt going?) but that she loves a lot. Hope this helps clear that up. That said JJ I agree with a lot of what you posted yesterday politically. Obama seems a little socialist and it scares me.

By lovin life

August 29, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

ha! Jaggy that is too funny! I would love that bumper sticker!

By Becky

August 29, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

newmom, so glad that you are better..As you most likely already know, you are very lucky that you can stay at home, so that has to help out some with being sick & still having to take care of a little one.. The fun one is to be sick & still having to take care of twins..I am a life long Democrat & I won’t be voting for Obama for the same reasons that Jesse’s Girl listed. I don’t think that he has enough experience under his belt..

My 16 year old niece is watching the convention with as much dedication as you can get..She says that she is watching history in the making..We do discuss it & she has her own (very strong) opinions on both canidates..

By Jesse's Girl

August 29, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

Ok…to all our regulars…and anyone else that cares…..I met the most interesting person this week. She’s a young Republican Super Delegate. In addition to stumping for McCain, she also has a primary job that allows to her travel with the campaign and still work. Her job???? The girl names fingernail polishes for Opi!!! I’ve always wondered who the hell comes up with all those insane…albeit catchy…names. Now, carry on.

By JJ

August 29, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Lovin life Thank you, thank you, thank you. Those are the kindest words I have heard in a very long time. You brought a tear to my eye.

It’s very difficult to interpret someone’s post on a blog. I know I come off hard, but really, I am a softie. I will do just about anything for anyone, without expecting anything in return.

I don’t mean to sound harsh, and I too, read, and re-read my posts before I hit that button. Sometimes though, I’m in a mood to stir things up……

But thank you for the kind words.

I hope EVERYONE has a safe and happy Labor Day Weekend.

By maranda

August 29, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

OMG HISTORY IN THE MAKING!!!!!I watched it with my daughter and she was just as emotional as I was. She understood what was being said and whats going on around her as well.

By new mom

August 29, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

JG you mean to tell me you met the person who is to thank for me wearing ‘I’m not really a waitress’ on my toes for years??? OMG!!

JJ, your last post sounds a bit like an acceptance speech… :)

Anyone else following VP speculation? It sounds like it will be the gov. from Alaska…

By Becky

August 29, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

lovinlife, your right, most of the regulars at some point irk others on here, but all in all we are just oe big happy family..I get insite on a lot of things from JJ, FCM & numbers guy & Jesse’s Girl & so on..I also usually get a good laugh out of something that Jesse’s Girl writes..Hope all have a great (& safe) Labor Day weekend.

By JJ

August 29, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

new Mom ha ha ha.

And I was hoping for Mitt Romney as McCain’s VP…..I know nothing about the Alaskan Senator. But I do LOVE her state. We were there last summer. WOW!!!!

By lovin life

August 29, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

new Mom, i agree, but my first vote is still Condi Rice and second my man Mitt!!! I will take anyone over Obamma! By the way for all, since this is a mom blog there are some cutie kid election shirts.
The obamma says My Momma Loves Obamma The McCain says My brain says vote McCain Ok as I typed he picked Gov. Palin. McCain/Palin 08

By Joyce

August 29, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

JG- that’s too cool! I’ve always thought that naming nail polish and makeup colors would be the best job in the world!

By new mom

August 29, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

It’s official now, she is his VP choice. She sounds awesome, IMHO…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

And Becky, I forgot to thank you for your well wishes!

Dittos—y’all be good and have a great weekend!

By FCM

August 29, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Thank you to those who said kind things.

I figure we the regulars are like ‘family’ you love ‘em, you disagree with ‘em, you continue to accept them and live with them.

Well I outted myself yesterday that Mitt was my man…he was in the Primary and I hope he comes back.

That said, I think McCain just proved he will think outside the box.

Now watch, Obama will come back with this pick being just because he is black….Obama is the one who use race against Clinton and now against McCain. Oddly enough both of those people never mentioned his race. They mentioned his inexperience, his views, and so forth.

Yes, Hilary did stand up for the good of party and announce they should back Obama. What else could the woman do? If she did anything else she would NEVER be able to run as a Dem President.

Suggested Reading: Animal Farm All the Kings Men The Prince The New Prince

By Jesse's Girl

August 29, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

God bless John McCain…..that sexy old man who’s gonna be President just blows me away! Ha!!! And she’s a red head to boot!!! I love America!!!

Yes….I met the girl who knows the GUY that named my nail polishes..Kennebunk-Port and The thrill of Brazil! How awesome is that?! I think I’ll get a manicure this afternoon……in honor of my new friend AND the oh-so-sweet McCain/Palin ticket.

By lovin life

August 29, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

Jesse’s girl Great idea! OPI Mani pedi’s all around! Maybe she will name a McCain/Palin color!!! This mom could use one. I guess I will put away my Mitt stuff till 2016 (after McCain’s 8 years of president!!)

By motherjanegoose

August 29, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

WOW…talk about a shake up…this is so cool!

I also love the state of Alaska. I have chatted with several today but I believe my Dad told me that he saw Palin on an interview that said they that they would love to drill for oil in Alaska it…bringing jobs and helping America. this should stir things up!

When I am able, I enjoy posting and also reading the comments from others. It is good to be probed to think out of the box. I am hurt that no one said they enjoy my comments…LOL!

Have a super weekend…this ought to be interesting.

Theresa…here’s a question:

Does anyone vote for president primarily based on:

,sex or religious affiliation….HAHA…I guess we shall see!

By new mom

August 29, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Boy do I need a pedi too…let’s all go together! Don’t you know we’d have quite a time if we all did actually get together in real life?

Apparently Palin is one tough cookie. One quote I heard this morning was about the ‘Palin body count’: “The landscape is littered with the bodies of those who crossed Sarah…”

By Jesse's Girl

August 29, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Oh my gosh!!!! David Duchovny is a sex addict…where was I? Its a huge joke because Mr Jesse looks EXACTLY like him….actually, Mr Duchovny looks like my hubby. McCain picks a gal…Duchovny is addicted to sex…all is right with the world!:)

By motherjanegoose

August 29, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

I’m in for the mani pedi and I also use OPI at my salon, FYI….mani/pedis are cheaper here in metro Atlanta than most anywhere else in the US. I was in ( the sticks) Minnesota 2 weeks ago and the salon was having a BOGO special…I asked the price: $50 for the pedi only….HELLO? I can get both for less than $30 ( plus tip)out here by the MOG. I treat myself about once a month! Tell your friend I chuckle at the names…she must be clever!

By JJ

August 29, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Mother We were just talking about that at lunch. This opens the path for drilling in Alaska.

I have loved McCain for a VERY long time. I just really admire him, and I adore his wife.

McCain ‘08!!!!!! I may have to go get a bumper sticker now!!!!!

By JJ

August 29, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

I’m up for a pedicure. I love OPI nail polish. I have a lovely shade of deep blue on my toe nails as we speak….

I pay $20 for a pedicure. And it is WORTH EVERY PENNY. I have gone to the same lady for over a year now, and she is the BOMB. I usually tip her around $10. She gives THE BEST leg massage….

By Jesse's Girl

August 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Dang JJ!! You tip 50%? I’ll paint your toes for that!

By JJ

August 29, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Jessie’sgirl Yeppers!!! Not to every pedicurist, but just my girl Stella up in Suwanee……I’m telling ya, that lower leg massage she gives, is worth $30. However, I only go once a month, and that’s my only treat to myself.

By Smart Ace

August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

I will teach my children that I the entire political process in this country has gone to crap.

I will point out to them that when you are choosing between the lesser of two evils that is really not a choice at all…..what it really is is a tremendous lack of options.

By Jesse's Girl

August 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

Yeah well….really good wine is how I treat myself. I know I should probably spring for mani-pedi’s like other ladies do. And occassionally I will…like maybe this afternoon. But usually I just do it myself. I’m tellin’ ya…..its so relaxing and calming to sit on the couch with my honey at the end of the day with a fabulous glass of vino. I don’t think kickin’ my feet up on the couch to stare at my perfectly shined toes would do me nearly as much good. Or be as much fun:)

By Jesse's Girl

August 29, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Hey…where the heck is Jeff? I miss rippin’ on the goober:)

By JJ

August 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Jessie’sgirl I know the feeling!! I love Friday’s, coming home, getting into comfy clothes, a few cocktails or some wine. I have a couple of bottles of vino at home myself, waiting on a couple of girlfriends to come over tonight and RELAX. My daughter is off with friends so I’m hanging at home tonight. Looking forward to three days off!!!!

Ya’ll be safe this weekend!!! JJ out!

By Kathy

August 29, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

JJ…..OMG I am so sorry I mistook you for Jess. I hate making mistakes like that and I was in such a rush this morning when I was catching up on the blog. I have had a hard week parenting-wise (my toddler has adopted some freakish sleeping habits and a friend’s husband actually said to me, “I think your child might have Aspurgers (sp?)!” after witnessing a typical 3 year old temper tantrum) and I’m feeling a little defensive. Sorry about that. : ) I think I need a mani-pedi also….OPI’s “I’m Not Really a Waitress” red would be so fabulous right now. Calgon take me away!

By motherjanegoose

August 29, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

WOW…I tip $5 on a $28 mani/pedi…am I a cheapskate? Sorry for the topic change.

By Jeff

August 29, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

I’ve been trying to post. If this gets through I’ll post something similar to what I TRIED multiple times to post yesterday!!

By JJ

August 29, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

OK, I had to come back in and comment..Kathy Don’t worry, it’s ok. I didn’t take it personally.

Mother No, you aren’t cheap. I just overtip for the leg massage….. I could really use one now. It’s the last day of the month, and they are running me ragged today. I definately need that wine at home!!

By Becky

August 29, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

If the service warrants it, there is no such thing as over tipping..As JJ said, the leg massage is worth the entire medi/pedi..Heck, my 6 year old grandbaby loves to go to the mall to get a pedicure..She says that there she can pick from more colors than I have..She’s quiet the prissy thang..Yep, I said thang..

By FCM

August 29, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

JJ— Our lives are so parallell in many ways….EOM is only more fun when compared to EOQ!!!!

By Jesse's Girl

August 29, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Ok…what is EOM and EOQ? I only know OMD and ELO:)

By FCM

September 1, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

EOM - End of Month EOQ - End of Quarter Y:Y - Year over Year

By Jesse's Girl

September 1, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

Ahh….thanks. That sounds fantastically boring:)

By FCM

September 1, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

JG—I can appreciate a wonderful song, but would find writing, marking up the notes, learning it, and practicing it a multitude of times fantastically boring :o) That is why He gave us each our passions ;o)

On topic, I am using the current issues in the news to point out that it is the content of character by which we should be ‘valued’….Thank you AJC for the pictorial showing Bush and McClain working at doing something for the Hurricane Victims. Then showing Obama in Detriot (far from harm) bowing his head in silence….As they say a picture is worth 1,000 words!

By Jeff

September 2, 2008 8:01 AM | Link to this

OK, I’ve tried on several different systems to post regarding that Teresa would be better served educating her kids about so-called ‘third’ parties, and NONE of the posts have gone through.

I’m not much on conspiracy theories, but this is starting to look awfully strange….

Anyways:

lp.org <- Libertarian Party

gp.org <- Green Party

constitutionparty.rog <- Constitution Party

Depending on your politics, one of those three probably fits you closer than the DemoCan party.

By Jeff

September 2, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

Apologies. That should have been:

ConstitutionParty.org on the Constitution Party.

Ever notice that we have only a single ruling party in this country, not unlike China, Cuba, Iran, or the USSR, and yet we SOUNDLY criticize them for having a single party?

By Jess

September 2, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

Kathy, You SO made it sound like you were talking politics with your 3yo! And thanks for the explanation, at least I know you are not off your rocker