MOMania

By FCM

June 11, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

Wow Theresa….I was ready to talk on this but the parts you hit have me thinking….I am going to process a bit your points…then come back.

I will say that certain movies seem to have m/my friends evaluating my relationships….I oddly identified with Samantha…not in wanting different partners. One of my friends divorced after watching “How to Make an American Quilt” she felt the movie spoke to her…then sat and really thought about her relationship.

By JJ

June 11, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

OMG I LOVED THE MOVIE!!!!! I went last Thursday with two girlfriends and just loved it. I want to see it again, and will definately buy it on DVD!!!!

I cried when Steve & Miranda met on the Brooklyn bridge.

I bawled my eyes out when Big didn’t come into the church. I knew he wouldn’t, and I got very angry at him. I loved it when Carried got out of the limo and bashed him with her bouquet. I loved how Charlotte yelled at Big and told him to leave then alone. I felt so bad for Carrie on the Mexico trip.

Unfortunately I cannot identify with any of the relationships as I have been single WAY too long.

But the movie was fabulous!!!!

By h

June 11, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

I have to disagree with the Carrie & Big opinion. I was mad that he said he couldn’t do it, but I could understand where he was coming from. Carrie was being Crazy about the wedding, and he just wanted her. Not a $50K dress, 200 people, etc. He’s had all that. I think they work together well, now. It took Carrie 10 years to grow up in my opinion. I always found her at fault in their relationship, trying to change Big, make him what she thought he should be instead of loving him as he is. When he came to his senses and made his driver turn around, i think I would have forgiven him then. So by the end, I was so happy that she finally forgave him and they got married. I think it will be a long lasting relationship,

I did not buy the Steve cheating thing, it was completely out of his character. I think that was honestly put in there because Miranda’s character is never allowed to just be happy, there has to be drama. I love Charlotte. I do not think it is unrealistic that she was so blissfully happy. She has everything she ever wanted. Plus her and Harry are so loving. He is such a great guy. I was so happy for her.

Samantha, I can see her not wanting to be in a monogamous relationship. She is very self centered. (I don’t mean that bad!) But she loves herself more than anyone, and I think that is empowering. I think it’s great that this movie shows a woman who doesn’t have to be married or rely on a man to be happy. Girl Power!

In any right, great movie and thanks for starting this discussion, I look forward to reading the comments.

By Ebaby

June 11, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

I didnt read the blog because I havent seen it yet. I have to wait for it to be released where I am and find someone to go with me because my husband already said he refused to go :) I might just go by myself.

By GirlAfraid

June 11, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

The movie was perfect! Perfect I say! I laughed and cried, got mad, got sad, got happy. I feel I most identify with Miranda’s relationship. I’m a working mother pulled in different directions, I can be controlling but someone has to be since my hubby sometimes acts like an indecisive child. I respected that Samantha was honest enough to say she loved her man but loved herself more. I have felt that way and ended up not doing the right thing. I didn’t buy Charlotte’s perfect life. It was too much. Too sugary.

By Beth

June 11, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

The only thing I found off in the Miranda/Steve scenario was that their relationship as parents to Brady played little role in her decision to stay. It was purely about “their” relationship. Forgiving Brady’s father, the good dad, should have been a factor. But overall, I thought it was an excellent and realtistic depiction of a modern relationship.

By Beth

June 11, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

The only thing I found off in the Miranda/Steve scenario was that their relationship as parents to Brady played little role in her decision to stay. It was purely about “their” relationship. Forgiving Brady’s father, the good dad, should have been a factor. But overall, I thought it was an excellent and realtistic depiction of a modern relationship.

By Beth

June 11, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

The only thing I found off in the Miranda/Steve scenario was that their relationship as parents to Brady played little role in her decision to stay. It was purely about “their” relationship. Forgiving Brady’s father, the good dad, should have been a factor. But overall, I thought it was an excellent and realtistic depiction of a modern relationship.

By Shanie

June 11, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

I like Samantha, because she’s hot and has a libido. Getting married is a flame out to both of them. Monogamy is for people with ulterior motives or are just happy they have found someone that will put up with them. As for me, variety is the spice of life. Eating a Ritz cracker is GREAT..the first few times. After that….you realize that it’s just another cracker. Give me men, men and more men.

By FCM

June 11, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Ok, I have digested:

Charlotte: She was always the sugary sweet one in the series…She was the optomist She always believed that everyone would marry and live happily ever after. She got it. Good for her. Sure it came with other issues (switching religions, no children, etc) but she just kept finding that silver lining. Harry is perfect for her. He keeps her a bit grounded but yet gets her need for the storybook ending.

Miranda: The pessimist. I would have voted her most likely to be a bitter old maid. Then she found Steve…he is so much her opposite its funny. He owns a bar, prefers Brooklyn to NY, wears T-Shirts and cutoffs…he is the skater dude that figured out he had to earn a living. I mean this in the best of ways. I like Steve…Charlotte, Carrie, and Samantha got it: Steve is just a plain old good guy. He is nothing ‘Big’ but he is honest, loving, and caring. Miranda took him for granted so many times in the series. She always expects the worse to happen, so it usually does. Even her comment to ‘Big’ at the dinner had nothing to do with his relationship but everything to do with Miranda’s own negativity. Carrie was so right to tear into her on Valentines that I wanted to applaud. Back to Steve: I doubt she’ll ever fully appreciate him. However, after therapy she might finally start too. Carrie said it best (forgive me if I don’t get the quote exact)”In the end, Miranda realized, that on Steve’s own list of her, the Cons might far outweigh the Pros.”

Samantha: She will be happy to tell you she is the fantasy. Yes she is an empowered woman in that she knows who she is, but is who she is that great a person? Like Theresa I feel that she is ‘missing something’ not because she should have to have a man to make herself complete but because she ..but without she is a shell of a woman using conquests to fill the emptiness in her. Why didn’t she get more clients? She could have been a highly successful Agent with her own career. There was no need (nor would I want her too) to stay home night after night waiting for Movie Star to get home. Instead she believes that something better is always waiting on the otherside of the bed.

Me: no not in the movie but want to explain why I identified w/ Sam. I realized that many times I let other people choose my life for me. I have nobody to blame but me. Life gets overwhelming, single, raising kids, my family wants me to find ‘Mr. Right’ (where? and when do I have the time?)….My life feels so wrapped up in other peoples needs that I lose me. It doesn’t have to be a choice of being me alone, or self-sacrafice for others…there is a balance, I do not have to settle. I am morphing into someone who can be herself and share that with someone who gets it (ala Charlotte and Carrie). I hope Sam finds her balance.

Carrie: The realist. Everything for her is full of what ifs. She has to look at everyside of every issue twice. (I can relate to this too). She wants the written garauntee that everything will be perfect or will work out…no risk. She already knows the odds. Yes she takes risk but only because in life you have too. There are no garauntees. Big is perfect for her, he understands her need to know what is going to happen before it does. She doesn’t like surprises. Big wants to give her her ‘safe’ world. She is loved. She feels loved. She is not worried about losing who she is (Samantha), about all the silver linings (Charlotte)…though she sees them she is not accept that they are alayas there..nor does she the life as a totally negative thing (Miranda). She sees life as journey. Big is willing to go on that journey with her and I think they will make it.

Big: (yes he deserves his own). Big is Big. Besides being the totally adorable hearthrob Chris Noth (who may just move Matt McConaghey out of the #1 spot in my list of all time hotties). Big is grounded. He has 3 terminated marriages (I don’t see them as failed—its not a test). He is successful but knows it comes at a price. He is comfortable in the ‘glitz’ and shine that Carrie favors but underneath he is just as good a guy as Steve. Admittedly JJP would rather be on Park Ave then in Brooklyn, would only wear a T-shirt in the gym, and builds empires (if anyone reads the ‘Death by’ series by JD Robb…Big is Rourke and vice versa…same kind of guy no matter the time frame). He wants what Carrie wants: to be with her and love her. He does not want another terminated marriage. He does not take life to seriously so he balances her.

As to the whole ‘cold feet’. The fact he wanted to talk to her and called a gazillion times was the clue he is in it for the long haul. Sure he had a case of ‘what ifs’ but Carrie should relate to that. Yes, Miranda was wrong to plant seeds of doubt but then I think the earth will collapse if Miranda is ever truly happy.

Ok I could write pages on this but won’t…ya’ll got better things to do then read this long post right?

Another day we can get into Miranda (who is just clueless to what she causes rather than evil)….

By Tiffany

June 11, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Loved, loved, loved this movie. I felt that this was a realistic potrayal of the characters. I think Mr. Big just got a case of cold feet and didn’t get the opportunity to explain himself fully, hence him trying to return to the wedding. I’m glad Miranda didn’t diviorce her husband. Infidelity is wrong on all levels, but Steve truly seemed sorry and hopefully Miranda is able to put more effort and spice into their marriage the second time around. I was truly sorry that Sam left the Movie Star Hunk but I understand the feeling. I see her as the women who continues to date and have fabulous sex well into her 60’s. She’s the epitome of independant and I don’t think any man can change that.

By Elizabeth

June 11, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Miranda: I thought the Steve cheating part was weird too…it was almost like they just needed a juicy storyline for Miranda. I know I’m in the minority in this but I wouldn’t have been upset if Miranda didn’t take Steve back…they just seem so completely different. Steve just seems to get on Miranda’s nerves.

Charlotte: I don’t think she was unrealistically happy…especially when you consider her past marriage, miscarriage, etc.

Carrie: Even though Big broke her heart and humiliated her on her wedding day, I was glad that she took him back. The time apart really gave Big the chance to make sure he was ready for marriage #3. And I just couldn’t adjust to calling him John in the movie…too weird!

Samantha: I think it would have been unrealistic for her to stay with Smith. That’s just the way she is. But I agree she might regret that decision down the road when she’s in her 60’s and can no longer seduce the young men!

Overall I thought the movie was amazing…critics said it was too long but I didn’t want it to end! Will there be a SATC Movie 2??

By FCM

June 11, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

@ Elizabeth…they say there is talk of a SATC Movie #2

By Theresa

June 11, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Hey FCM — boy did you digest — good thoughts!

By TJ

June 11, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

I too LOVED this movie and plan to take my husband to see it, it was very therapeutic for me for two reasons.

First, I belong to a group of diverse friends, we all have our ups and downs but we each saw the movie then dissected what it meant to us as friends. One theme that resounded throughout was loyalty. They are loyal to each other no matter what and that was so refreshing to see.

The second reason is that for once, I could totally relate to Miranda, as my husband recently cheated on me. And he was the Steve prototype: simple, loving, an excellent father, he adored me, and is now contrite, remorseful, depressed, etc. My whole family and all my friends consider him to be blood related, some of them were extremely devastated and near tears. So to all those who say Steve didnt seem like the type, I can attest that there is no “type” sometimes things happen in life and catch you off guard.

As a woman who can come off as cynical, sarcastic, realistic (some call it pessimism) and highly successful/educated, I had to really look at myself and see what role I played in the affair. Did I push him away? Did I remind him that I was “smarter than him” all the time? Did he catch that I sometimes feel like I settled? Hopefully our therapist can help mend what is now broken.

At the same time, I relate to Samantha’s need to examine her life, who she wants to be, what role she wants to play, etc. This affair has made me do all those things.

I can say I am growing up more each day and this movie hit me at the exact time that I needed it. It just spoke to my personal life on so many levels. I will be buying the DVD.

By mr mr

June 11, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

I have to say, TJ…you offered the most insightful comment here. Since when did cheating have a ‘type.’ I hope things work out for you and your husband.

By FCM

June 11, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

@ TJ—I will keep you in my prayers. Not an easy load your carrying.

I have no idea why they had Steve cheat, but I agree with you that there is no ‘type’.

For the discussion:

In the Steve/Miranda situation she was certainly a contributing factor. She never valued Steve…her friends even said that to her. Everyone needs to feel valued. She did little (that we saw) to make her self look attractive to him…geez she was wearing a junky old t-shirt while they had sex then asked about ‘timing,’ like it was a chore. I almost yelled in the theater…”You moron you never say that to a man and expect him to stick around!!!” (I refrained). Does that justify the affair? Not at all. Would I move out for awhile to get perspective and think…you bet. On the other hand I maintain that it takes 2 committed people working on the relationship to make a couple (married or not). Miranda was so wrapped in her ‘busy life’ she could not even take Brady to the bathroom.

As I said before I could go and on about Miranda (and Cynthia Nixon gets kudos for doing the role so well)…but I think she is just clueless on how her actions effect other people.

By h

June 11, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

I Identify with Miranda. I always have. Not with the cheating husband (that I know of anyway) but with the pessimistic, cynical veiws on everything. I agree with you FCM, I don’t think she is mean spirited, but just doesn’t realize how her actions affect others. That is something I am having to deal with myself. I get so caught up in my busy life, work, travel, that I forget to take the time for myself or my husband. The movie in that aspect opened my eyes. Like her charcter as well I can always be called upon for some nasty, spur of the moment comment that i don’t even mean. When she said the marriage thing to Big, I almost shouted “You Idiot!!” Because i have definately found myself in that situation and just didn’t realize how it hurt other people. My hopes are that Miranda (and me too) can appreciate all the things around her much more.

By Theresa

June 11, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

good points H

By Sexy1977

June 11, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this

I was underwhelmed by the movie. The movie certainly didn’t live up to all the hype. I was very disappointed in Big, he owed carey the wedding of a lifetime. I didn’t understand why did Samantha all of a sudden have conscience, the Samantha I know and love would have boned that guys head off. and Miranda asked for what she got, and I was very happy for Charlotte. but in all, the movie gets a “D” from me.

By The Truth

June 11, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

I can identify with Steve. As someone who is stuck in a relationship with someone who only fusses and complains as well as takes you for granted I feel him cheating. She wasn’t having sex with him. Why should she care that someone else does? Men NEED sex. If you don’t give it to them, don’t be in a relationship with them. That is selfish. If you don’t like sex save your self the heartache of a relationship.

By emLove21

June 11, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

TJ- awesome post, remember things ALWAYS work out…

I LOVED the movie. Went with a group of girlfriends and much of the fun was seeing so many other groups of women having a great time.I will be buying the DVD! My 2 favorite lines: ” I got it.” - Big “Hello. I live here.”- Carrie

By FCM

June 11, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this

The Truth…if you really feel that way you could leave the relationship physically…mentally you are already checked out.

By been there

June 11, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

I cried when i saw Steve’s face when he confessed because it looked like my husband’s face 10 years ago. I cried because I knew that no matter how self righteous Miranda was portraying herself, deep down she knew she was part of the problem too. Just like me. Most of the time it may only take two to cheat in a marriage but sometimes it takes three. I was so consumed in my career and being perfect mom that I forgot and actually stopped caring that I had a husband. All it took was one night of two many cocktails in the cul-de-sac. I did what Miranda ended up doing. Really looking at myself and the part I played and what I would be giving up. My husband was no Samantha, ready to bed hop for the fun of it. He made a mistake. But I was the one who put our marriage in that precarious position in the first place.

We worked through it, have another child and could not be happier. It was like a brush with death.

I totally bought the Steve cheating scenario…

By Atlanta Pearl Girl

June 12, 2008 7:11 AM | Link to this

LOVED the movie… embarrassed my daughter to death by sniveling and crying like crazy (hey..it was romantic! And dealt with alot of ‘girlfriend’ issues… I’m a girl…it is what it is!)
Although the sex scenes were….. a bit over the top I thought? Especially the last one with Miranda… ::::barfing::::: that was just gross..I”m sorry it was.
Overall though..LOVED IT!!!!

By A Thinker

June 12, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

I had a love/hate relationship with the movie. I adored the series but felt as though the movie didn’t live up to all the hype although it was a good movie.
I also believe that you can use diffrent avenues (this movie) to gain insight into your own world. I am a self acclaimed “Carrie”. Great shoes, good hair, and the most complicated realtionship in the world. It is like they wrote the series around the two of us. For the past 7 years, it has been make up then break up and great sex in between. We are finally at point where it makes sense and wedding bells are ringing. However, I have been the “Miranda” in the past. I let society and my peers dictate my path with him. I spent a lot of time trying unsucessfully to change him into the the “perfect man” not realizing all the time that he was perfect……….for me. It actually took him cheating for me to “see” that. I was unhappy with stupid things like the way he dress when he on the other hand was dealing with a real B*$#H! We actually did write and exchange our list of pros and cons for staying in the relationship. I was shock to read his honest opinion of me. The hardest part was that i couldn’t deny any of my faults…….that was me. I forgave him because I saw that after all those cons he still wanted and loved me. WOW! I say all this to say I totally buy the “Steve cheating” bit. Majority of the time that is how it happens. There is no type to infidelity. If it was, no smart woman would ever get cheated on and we know it happens everyday. Lessson Learned by Miranda…..even after marriage you must make your man a priority. you can’t just lump him in with the kids. He needs you in a diffrent way.
STOP knocking Samatha! That is who she is; everyone is not cut out to be in a realtionship. I applaud her for having the strength to say “I am selfish, goodbye”. She could have just stayed in a unfulfilling relationship denying the two of them happiness. A lot of people don’t agree with her decision because they can’t see outside their box. Everyone doesn’t need Prince Charming to carry them off into the sunset to be happy. Some women are happy walking there by themselves. As for Carrie, I don’t believe there was a reason to be angry with Big. A wedding is about two people and he tried very hard to explain his wants and needs. They were on the same page and then she totally runs with some storybook wedding out of nowhere. It was too much and he tried to tell her but she was being selfish, again. I thought the ending was perfect! White suit and the courthouse; how perfect. It isn’t about the party; it is about the love.

BTW, who says Charlotte was happy? She couldn’t have want she always wanted….a baby. Yes, she adopted but I can not explain the emptiness you feel as women when you can not concieve. if you equate that with happiness your priorities in life are twisted.

By h

June 12, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

to A thinker: Charlotte was finally able to concieve and deliver at the end of the movie, so she did get what she always wanted.

BTW I equate with your last statement though. As a woman who is struggling to concieve for the past 2 years, I definately feel the “emptiness.” I knwo its make believe, but watching Charlotte finally acheive that gave me renewed hope… :)

By The Non-Academics

June 12, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Get a life. Go back to school. This is what’s wrong w/ America. People are abroad fighting/dying so that you can dwell on your low IQs this way? Those poor soldiers.

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