MOMania

By Rod

January 11, 2007 07:49 AM | Link to this

For the situation with your friend: I definately think she should mention to him that his backyard is in full view of all of her windows and ask him to please wear a swimsuit (ask nicely). Hopefully that will be enough.

If he pulls one of those: “It’s my private property and I can do whatever I want” routines, then she might try contacting the local police department and inform them that he’s flashing her children (by law, I can’t stand on my property flashing cars as they drive by) and she’s worried about it. If they threaten him with any kind of sexual abuse charge against children, that should stop him - otherwise his life as he knows it will effectively be over.

By JustMe

January 11, 2007 08:19 AM | Link to this

I feel that it is partly her fault. Some people will intentionally purchase the house highest up and then complain with what they see when they “look down.” If you don’t want to see anything, then DON’T BUY THAT HOUSE!!!!

By julie

January 11, 2007 08:35 AM | Link to this

don’t look!!

By Renee

January 11, 2007 08:41 AM | Link to this

Yeah, JustMe, it’s her fault because she bought a house she liked. She should have known a pervert would move in next door.

What a pathetic response.

By vn

January 11, 2007 08:41 AM | Link to this

Make no mistake about this: it’s the friend who’s uncomfortable about the nudity and is trying to use her children as an excuse to call in the authorities to stop/punish a neighbor who is likely no threat to anybody.

The law is quit clear in most states: simple nudity is not a crime. In order to charge someone with indecent exposure either actual lewd activity or an intent to offend must be established. Simply being nude is not “flashing” and doesn’t constitute child sexual abuse.

By Renee

January 11, 2007 08:43 AM | Link to this

Don’t look?!?! Julie, you’re just as stupid as JustMe! Did you not read the story first? It’s her family room, kitchen and bedroom windows. Duh. And, you’re also going to tell kids they can’t look out the window?

C’mon, there are various possible solutions (I like Rod’s), but saying “don’t look out the window” or “it’s her fault for buying a high house” are just stupid comments. Go back and play in the sand box and leave this blog to the adults.

By scubber

January 11, 2007 08:49 AM | Link to this

I suppose an easy solution may be to joke with him that she ‘got an eyeful last evening when washing the dishes’. It is coy but may tip her cards that she knows he likes to soak in the buff. How that statement is received may decide how she should go further with her actions.

If he jokes in return that he enjoys his public display of relaxation, then she may want to opt for drawing her blinds. If he is concerned that your friend has received the full monty anytime she looks out her window then he may take steps to build an arbor, screen, awning or anything that would block her view.

However, I must say that I applaud the man for his sense of personal freedom. It is true that we are given religious ideology of shame for our bodies no matter if we entertain faith or not. It is part of our national identity.

I recall an elderly woman’s home on my old jogging route that left her left her drapes open. As I jogged past her house, usually at 5-6 AM each morning I would often catch a glimpse of her as she had presumably just walked out a bath and stood nude in her room dressing. At first I thought, “Ewwwww!” As she was elderly and you know what happens to yor boddy as you age. But after a while I began to enjoy her form, not in a gratification manner, but for the honesty of her body. She undoubtedly was not trying to make a public statement about mortality or even nudity, but I was able to see the beauty of her as a person and of human life. I saw my own future in that window.

Nobody wants to feel like a prude in this type situation, as she has the right to have any social reservation she chooses. But I wish more parents were relaxed with nudity. Nudity is not shameful or pornographic.

Ashcroft covered the exposed breast of the blind justice statue at the Supreme Court because he had an absurd belief that all nudity is sinful and pornographic. Is that really the type of belief you wish to perpetuate in society?

By Theresa

January 11, 2007 09:00 AM | Link to this

Guys keep in clean — It’s only 9 a.m. and I’m already having to delete stuff — it’s a serious question —- she’s worried he’s a perv doing it on purpose and doesn’t want her young children exposed to that— so it’s totally serious —

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 09:07 AM | Link to this

That’s a tough one. I would probably send my husband over to discuss a compromise, such as wearing a suit during daylight hours and closing the blinds in the evening to let him have his naked time. Can she plant some screening trees along her property line?

By kevin

January 11, 2007 09:11 AM | Link to this

who elected renee judge? i know i wouldnt vote for her

By past50mom

January 11, 2007 09:17 AM | Link to this

The uphill neighbor should first ask him to wear a swimsuit and explain the reason. If he refuses, then she could ask him to erect a screen around his hot tub for privacy. She could even offer to buy the materials for the screen if he balks. If other houses also have a view like this then perhaps he chose the house just so he could parade around. Look him up on the sex offender registry. If he’s on it, MOVE!!! You can file a complaint against someone who intentionally disrobes or parades naked in front of their windows when the windows are in plain view of public areas.

By lovelyliz

January 11, 2007 09:20 AM | Link to this

Why are we so uptight about nudity?

By Carol

January 11, 2007 09:28 AM | Link to this

I’m one of those people with a hottub and no swimsuit. I cultivated a “privacy fence” of shrubs all the way around the yard to spare my neighbors from this exact situation. Earlier this year, the neighbors got 2 GOATS (yes, you can have goats in downtown Atlanta - that’s another vent) who chewed through several areas of the barrier, exposing my hot tub and the activities contained therein to the neighbor’s full view. Now who’s the bad neighbor?

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 09:28 AM | Link to this

It’s just nudity. If the mother doesn’t act like it’s dirty, then her children won’t think it’s dirty. There is nothing wrong with being naked. If the mother wants to present it as taboo then her children will likely want to look even more. Besides, the guy is on his own property. He isn’t streaking through the neighborhood.

What’s perverted about it? Now if the guy was wandering the neighborhood wanting everyone to look at it, then that would be different. But he is in his own hot tub/pool. Maybe he didn’t think about people gawking out of their windows at him. Or maybe he doesn’t think nudity is disgusting. Maybe he’s an exhibitionist. Who knows. The bottom line is this: Nudity is not dirty and our society needs to stop treating it like it is. We are one of the most repressed societies (for not being a 3rd world country) when it comes to nudity and sex.

By what the heck

January 11, 2007 09:32 AM | Link to this

Lovelyliz, I’m not so sure everyone is uptight about nudity, but I don’t think small children should be looking at naked full grown men, do you? Do your children do that? And do you think that is just what normal little kids do?

By Just a Question

January 11, 2007 09:34 AM | Link to this

Serious question: if this was a young lady sunbathing topless in her backyard, would there be such an uproar? After all, it’s just breasts! Right?

By Rod

January 11, 2007 09:34 AM | Link to this

vn- I disagree with you. You said: “simple nudity is not a crime. In order to charge someone with indecent exposure either actual lewd activity or an intent to offend must be established. Simply being nude is not “flashing” and doesn’t constitute child sexual abuse.” You said an intent to offend - that’s my point. I said to ask him not to do it as my children look out that window. Now, he knows that children see him when he disrobes. Therefore, he would be intentionally disrobing knowing that children are watching.

Some people say they can do whatever in their own backyard. I have a scenario for you. My backyard backs against a school playground. Children are outside playing all the time. I only have a chain-link fence. Do you think I have the right to walk around my backyard nude whenever I want and have all of the little children watching me (obviously they’ll be watching)? Surely you don’t think I can walk around back there nude without the cops coming after me. Same situation with this friend - if she informs him that she has kids who look out the window.

I think Jennifer’s 9:07 post isn’t bad and I like past50mom’s idea of helping with a hot tub screen. However, past50mom - if he is on the sex offender list I wouldn’t move - I’d definately contact the authorities. I’m sure anyone on that list isn’t allowed to be naked around kids and they might ship him back to prison.

By I know who you are

January 11, 2007 09:35 AM | Link to this

I just figured out who Jennifer is! Any yes, she sits around butt-naked with her kids, and also has naked men around her house!!! But she’s not untight, for sure

By Ria

January 11, 2007 09:36 AM | Link to this

scubber - you’re a pervert for watching someone through their window everyday! Shame on you!

By Love nudity

January 11, 2007 09:37 AM | Link to this

I personally do not think their is anything wrong with people being completly nude in their own home. Maybe you can ask your neighbor to put some blinds on the window if he or she likes to be nude.

And to the first blogger ROD, man your advise really stinks. You cannot lie to the police and tell them that the man was flashing her children, thats total bullshi* and if I was that man and you lied like that I would beat your as* !! Does the man have a fence around his backyard? What’s the actual GA code and GA law on nudity on private land or in ones home? You might want to research that before you call anyone..

One time when I was in the Marine Corp me and my wife was renting a apartment off base and my apartment building face anouther apartment bldg and we where on the 3rd floor. One night I just happened to look out the balcony sliding door and my nieghbor across the street was in a bikini starring into my apartment, she was also married. Well when my wife would go to bed at night, I would be up watching tv. Well after a couple of days she started to wave at me and would stare for hours.. She was 28yrs old and I was 30yrs old.. After a week of her waving to me, always making sure my wife was a sleep, she started to get mischievious, like coming to the balcony window in a skimpy nighty and then before you knew it she started stripping totally naked and then after I wouldnt respond and by the way she was hot, she was 5’ 6” about 115 pounds with blonde hair.. She came over to my apartment at 2am, knocked on the door and told me that the interior light to my car was left on.. I told my wife some chick was saying that the inside light was on and I went to turn it off, then she was standing by my car and told me she wanted to take me to her apartment and do the do.. I refused and the next day she went to the office and told them I was flashing her and doing things I was not doing, needlessly to say I moved that next weekend.. People are crazy!!!

By Stars

January 11, 2007 09:38 AM | Link to this

Good for you, scrubber. I feel the same way.

By hll1955

January 11, 2007 09:42 AM | Link to this

The screening trees are a good idea.. So is building a tall fence on her property. If the man has a fence and he is in the privacy of his own yard, it is up to her and her family to obscure the view. He has done his part. I agree that nudity is not shameful, and depending on the ages of her kids, maybe a frank discussion is in order. Besides after a while the novelty will wear off and the kids will lose interest. The neighbor will just be that naked guy next door… Same way my family has “those hillbillies next door”

By Renee

January 11, 2007 09:43 AM | Link to this

Love nudity - your story confirms you’re just another pervert (and an illiterate one - learn grammar and how to spell).

By scubber

January 11, 2007 09:46 AM | Link to this

I understand why people have issues with nudity, as mentioned before with the ridiculous action of wingnut John Ashcroft and the covering of the statue of blind justice’s bare marble breast. It is silly, but sadly part of our American social moiré.

My parents showered together every day of my life when I grew up in their home. It was most likely borne from their newlywed years of meager funds and want to conserve on their water and gas bills. I saw my parent nude every day and it never phased me that this was not the norm.

I am a professional graphic designer and have had strong skills and passion for art since I was very young. My parents signed me up for life drawing classes as a child that regularly featured nude males and females posed for study and sketch. I grew up with ease and acceptance of the human form in any shape, size, or variation.

As I grew up I discovered that is not the social norm and am still saddened that more people from this country have never been raised to accept nudity as reality, not pornography.

So although I empathize in some small regard to your friend I find it to be pap and insignificant to fret over. However, if the neighbor is doing this as a provocoteur, then she should be forthright in her approach to him that it is not appreciated.

I mentioned a coy approach, but she should not be afraid to ask him to screen himself in his spa, for the sake of her querying children.

By Rod

January 11, 2007 09:46 AM | Link to this

Hey Love nudity - Can you read? I didn’t say lie to the police!! I said to ask the man (nicely) not to parade around nude outside as I have children who look out the windows. If he then does it again - knowing that my children are watching - then yes, that is flashing. Hello? Anybody home?

And yes, I’d tell the police he’s flashing children. Just because you like walking around nude and are interested in cheating on your wife with some slut across the street doesn’t mean everyone else is!

By it's true

January 11, 2007 09:48 AM | Link to this

Yes, “I know who you are”. I know who Jennifer is too, and I know that she will disrobe anytime, any place, in front of anyone. She’s really a bad one to be giving advice. She’s a perv and that’s the truth. EWWWWWWWWWWWWW

By past50mom

January 11, 2007 09:48 AM | Link to this

Theresa, Time for a topic change.

By Lisa

January 11, 2007 09:48 AM | Link to this

I see most of the posters in favor of the nudity don’t have children. Thinking only of themselves and not the good of children.

If you want to be naked, do it inside or at a naked resort - don’t force others to have to deal with your perversion.

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 09:49 AM | Link to this

There’s more than one Jennifer on here so let’s be specific!! 9:07 Jennifer does walk around her house nude but there are no naked men around other than Mr. Jennifer!

By Kimmer

January 11, 2007 09:52 AM | Link to this

I am assuming he has a privacy fence around his pool area so it isn’t like he is parading around an open yard in the buff. But even so, because he has chosen to live in a community where he is in close proximity to other people it is reasonable to expect him to cover himself when he is in view of his neigbors. What I would do is first is talk to him politely about the situation and ask him if he would wear a swimsuit. If that does not work then your choices are to either live with it, move, or get authorities involved.

By Love nudity

January 11, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Renee: I hate judgemental people like you. I was not the pervert in my story, please re-read it.. The female across the way was the pervert, sex feen.. The typical female I must add. I was the good and faithful guy. I could have easily cheated on my wife but i did not and I did not take to her advances.. I do not know many guys that would have turned this girl down because she was hot.. But I am a faithful husband..

As far as this story is concerned do not label this guy as a pervert or child sex offendor, rapist, or killer.. It is not fair to do that just because he likes to swim and get in his hot tub naked or walk around his home naked..

Does this guy do anything sexual, like play with himself while looking towards his neighbors house? If so then yes maybe he is a sicko.. Does he make it obvious that he is trying to get peoples attention or childrens attention? If so maybe he is a sicko..

Their could be many ways to maturely handel this small problem.. First you could go over to the guys house and very professionaly and nieghborly tell him your concerns. Second you could plant trees along your property that would prevent the ability to see over to his property. Think before you act and do whats right.

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Dang, I was like, “Who saw me walking around naked? I’m 8 stories up!” LOL! If they were looking at me they would have to be living above me in another building and looking with binoculars or a telescope. Then I realized it wasn’t the same Jennifer. I hope!

By wtf_k

January 11, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

Are y’all through beating this dead horse? Nude, Naked or Nekkid—-as long as the person is on their property and posing no threats, let it be

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Love Nudity: You sound like you handled the situation the same way my husband would have. Us women love faithful husbands :) It’s good to know there are others out there.

By Rod

January 11, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

I live in a Homeowner’s Association and I just looked through our CC&R’s and found the following:

“No noxious or offensive activity shall be carried on upon any Lot, nor shall anything be done thereon tending to cause embarrassment, discomfort, annoyance, or nuisance to any person using any property adjacent to the Lot.”

Therefore, if Theresa’s friend was in my subdivision, they could use this to have the person stop the nudity (discomfort to any person using any property adjacent to the Lot). Theresa - if your friend is in a formal Homeowner’s Association (pay dues, etc) you might want her to look into this.

By Renee

January 11, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Hey Love nudity - I see the “faithful” man that you are didn’t stop watching the woman EVERY NIGHT!! Watching her repeatedly, doing God knows what with your hand… And for you comment, yeah, the typical female is a sex fiend. Damn, you busted us!

By the way, please learn how to spell! It’s hard trying to figure out what your trying to type! (maybe you should pull that right hand up from under the table and use both hands to type with).

By Rod

January 11, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

wtf_k - the nudity is the topic - so we’ll keep beating this horse until the next topic comes up from Theresa! If you don’t like it, you’re welcome to leave this blog!

By scubber

January 11, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

To Rod

Wow! So the mental halfwit nextdoor with the bright yellow humvee that will not fit into his garage and causes me to throw up a little in my mouth every time that I see it… You mean I could get rid of that embarassing manifestation of male inadequacy away from my sight for good!

I am looking for my CC&R with tittering glee!

By JT

January 11, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

This is such an American issue! How absurd! I’ll bet she wouldn’t have any problem if her neighbor’s big screen TV were visible and he was watching all sorts of violence!

Maybe this lady needs to tell her children that the man is naked and that the human body is not dirty or something to be ashamed of. Maybe then the kids won’t grow up with such Puritanical views.

For those of you who believe that nudity is evil or wrong, then you need to grow up. It’s our body folks. It’s the vessel that God gave us and it carries our souls. I would think that would make it beautiful and not dirty as you all seem to want to make it.

For the record, I’m neither liberal nor a nudist, but I’ve certainly never told my kids that the naked body is dirty or tried to act as if there were something wrong should they view someone naked. By doing so, THAT’S how you make kids into perverts and sexual deviants.

By Robin

January 11, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

Just a suggestion:

Have your friend, another female friend, and the children open the windows, and VERY loudly discuss the neighbor’s meager little pen—.

Your friend should say to the children, “Don’t worry children, your pen— won’t be tiny like that. That tiny little thing is not normal.— Mr. neighbor can’t help that he has such a tiny little one. Bless his heart.”

After that, the neighbor will probably be too embarrassed to parade around naked again.

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

It seems to me anyone who is concerned with what Love Nudity was doing with any of his hands is the pervert. LOL!

By Rod

January 11, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Hey scubber - yes, in my Association you could get rid of that Hummer. The CC&Rs state:

“Section 4. Vehicles. Vehicles shall not be parked on any subdivision street or on any Lot, including the driveway, so as to be visible from the street for periods of more than twenty—four (24) continuous hours. The term “vehicles,” as used herein, shall include, without limitation, motor homes, boats, trailers, motorcycles, scooters, trucks, campers, buses, and automobiles.”

The CC&Rs help keep those who only think about themselves from causing problems for others.

By it's true

January 11, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Rod is a blithering idiot.

By scubber

January 11, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

To Rod

Woo hoo! I’m so happy I am running around the yard naked!

er. uh, oops.

Woo hoo! I am now running around the yard with a welcome mat and the neighbor’s AJC over my tender bits!

By Ella

January 11, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Do you have a homeowner’s association that can address this issue?

We had a “naked man” in our neighborhood. This guy had no drapes and pranced around his house all day every day nude.

We asked him to put up blinds—even offered to pay for them on the side of his house that faces our house. He declined.

So our homeowner’s association fined him. He got the message and put on some clothes.

By JT

January 11, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

In Europe - on the average - there is less crime and a significantly smaller amount of sexual crime. And yet, in almost every country there, nudity (not pornography) is present in advertising and on television shows. What they don’t allow is excessive violence.

In the U.S., the censors for television and films are far more concerned with nudity and sex than violence. Think about it folks…Terminator 2 was PG 13 and it was very violent. Now think about how many films are rated R simply because a glimpse of of male nudity exists. Now think about how many films show women’s breasts and pubic areas and realize that they are often rated PG 13. So what the U.S. believes is that the female body is more wholesome in its nude form than the male form.

That nudity is more offensive than watching someone get decapitated is absurd, but what makes it more absurd is that a man’s body is ostensibly more offensive than a woman’s…..

Hmmmmmm….

By Love nudity

January 11, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Jennifer: Thank you for your comment and yes their is some good, faithful guys out their like me. I wasnt the one getting naked or getting in thong underwear with a sheer bra, doing sexual stuff in the living room of the apartment while waving to my neighbor. That happened when I was 30 and now I am 39 and out of the military now. This same thing happened to me one other time after that and I immediatly broke my lease and moved out.. NO naked women could get me to cheat on my hot, intelligent, awesome, perfect wife and mother of my daughters, red headed, petite wife… Shes my best friend, my backbone, my life…..

If that was my neighbor, i would go over their and talk with him, let him know my concerns, give him some suggestions, be willing to contribute financially to some trees, screens, blinds, ect. And then if he responds in a negative way, I would find out my legal options, if the wasnt any legal options i would plant huge trees along the very end of my property or I would move…

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

We are blessed with great neighbors now, but in our old neighborhood we had a Pamela Anderson clone across the street who liked to sweep her garage at night in her underwear. With the lights on and door open. Car washes involved wardrobe changes. It was comical and a little sad.

Another neighbor down the street let his dog poop in the front yard and never picked it up. You had to cover your nose while walking past his house in the summer!

By lovelyliz

January 11, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

I lived in Europe where this isn’t much of an issue.

By Sallie

January 11, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

The human body is a beautiful thing. Well maybe not Theresa Walsh Giarrusso’s, but generally, yeah….

By Nikita

January 11, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Just chiming in here…unless the neighborhood has covenants proclaiming it otherwise the guy is in his rights to be naked on his own property. Which means it’s the mom’s job to obscure the view if that’s what she wants. Of course, he might voluntarily cover up or turn down the lights if asked, but he’s not required to do anything.

By Rod

January 11, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

it’s true - do you have anything constructive to say or are you just a blithering idiot yourself? What am I an idiot about? What did I state that was wrong? I voiced a valid opinion and gave some additional facts. If you don’t have an idea to help Theresa’s situation, you don’t really need to be playing around like an immature little fool.

By Nekkid

January 11, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

I worry about the neighbors seeing my kids nekkid. Especially the two year old boy standing in the kiddie pool in the back yard, flapping in the breeze.
Since when did being naked mean that you were a perv? Isn’t everyone naked at one point every day. Who showers with clothes on? Or are we pervs for showering nekkid? This is a silly topic, and I cannot believe the harsh words that are being posted today. Ya’ll need to get a life.

By John

January 11, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

Speaking of being nude hopefully I havent offended any of the office workers in midtown. Oneday I was off working during the week so I got up to take a shower. I was standing naked at my balcony looking outside checking out the weather, but I forgot that it was Monday and the office building across from me was full of workers. They could see me and I could see them!

By lynn

January 11, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

Heck that’s nothing. My friend mows his yard in the nude. He’s not a pervert, he just believes the human body is not “dirty” like some folks do. Do I want my kids to gawk at him? Of course not, but since he’s very much their senior I’m sure they would give out a loud EWWWW & turn their heads anyway (So far, they haven’t even noticed he didn’t have shorts). And what about TV? Even the Superbowl provided a peep show for the entire world. Then you also have the big fat women who should be wearing a tarp but only have a low neck tank top and pants 10x too small. I find this more disgraceful than being out right nude.

By David

January 11, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

To Robin

Just a thought. The father of the children may have an equal to or smaller penis (yes it is a medical term for a body part) than the neighbor in question. By belittling the neighbor won’t she also be putting down their father?

Doing the same for a female with small breasts does not usually cause her to hide them. She just goes out and buys bigger ones so she can flaunt them.

By Renee

January 11, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Hey Love nudity - for God’s sake already: It’s there not their that you need to be writing. “Their” is for when you are talking about someone’s possession: their clothes, their books. “There” is the one used 90% of the time: there is a book, there are some clothes.

For God’s sake, don’t be such an idiot. By the way, if you weren’t a lousy husband, why were you watching that woman every day? Huh? Face it - you wanted her but when she made her move you just didn’t have the balls to follow through.

You said both times it happend - you moved. Sounds more like you instigated it and were kicked out! Otherwise, just moving when someone smiles at you shows what a pathetic, weak, miniscule man you are! Even the last line in your 10:47 suggestion was for the person to move. My oh my, what a coward you are.

Remember: there

By its true

January 11, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Rod, I too am voicing a valid opinion. I have the right just like you do.

By what if

January 11, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

So Lynn, if the guy had not been a senior and had been a young stud would your kids have liked that better or noticed? I really can’t believe that your kids would not notice that someone was mowing the lawn naked. Do they have problems seeing or are they that unaware of what is going on around them?

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Uh, John, I live in Midtown and I was wondering who that was.

By Rod

January 11, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

it’s true - No - you did not voice a valid opinion about the topic at hand (hint - read the first three paragraphs). All you did was post a childish comment.

By BANKING BABY

January 11, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

I grew up in the suburbans of Philadelphia and the family across the street had a lovely, private pool. We were welcome to come over any afternoon to go swimming. There was only one stipulation. We had to knock loudly on the fence and come in through the back of the house, yelling, “yoo-hoo, Marie!” That was the signal for the owner of the home, to gather her clothes and leave the pool area. “Marie” was born in Germany and she like to swim and sunbathe nude. We were told that is what she liked to do. There was never any question in our minds that this was normal behavior of a grown woman on her own property. My parents never gave me a hang-up about nudity. I showered with my father when I was a young girl and bathed with my mother until my brothers and sisters were born. My mother walked around in her underwear when my friends spent the night. Does this mean I grew up in a family of perverts? It was explained to me that everyone has a father and mother and most children have seen their parents in their underwear. Since the house belonged to my parents, it was their right to live their life the way they wanted to. I actually believe it was a healthy way to raise children. I have raised my own children with the same respect for the human body and the privacy of the individual in their own home. And, yes, this extends to the boundaries of the yard as well.

By Love nudity

January 11, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Hey Renee: Maybe we can be just like donald trump and rosie o donnel. LMAO.. you need to get a life and quick. UMMMMMM you must be as ugly or uglier than rosie o donnel. Why are you bashing me and insulting me? Your just the perfect example of how insane and screwed up so many females are.

Thank God that I have such a awesome, mentally stable, hot, goodlooking wife because a single guy might make the mistake of dating a woman like this Renee chick on here..

Renee why are you sweating me? Have I on any of my comments insulted or blasted you? Lets send our pictures to my space and let the readers decide who is good looking.. You have already proven what a mentally messed up chick you are… LMAO LMAO LMAO….

By Rod

January 11, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

Theresa - unfortunately, your friend isn’t going to get much help out of this bunch. There are to many immature people that get all giddy when you mention naked or nude and they get side-tracked easily.

A couple of us have tried to help you out. Sorry about the others. Good luck to your friend.

By Robin

January 11, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

To David,

Dude, the whole point was to get the neighbor to stop parading around nude. It really doesn’t matter if his PENUS is tiny or larger than John Holmes’ PENUS.

It wasn’t to belittle him, the children’s dad, women with small breasts, or women endowed like Dolly Parton. IT was just to embarrass the neighbor enough to get him to stop ‘hanging out’ in the yard.

Please get off your soap box and get a clue.

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

Renee: There is a big difference between cheating on your wife and looking at someone. He wanted her? And then didn’t have it to follow through? LOLOL!!!

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Mowing the lawn nude would scare me more than anything. Have you seen the size of the rocks that can come flying out of the grass? ouch!

By lynn

January 11, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

what if, it’s a riding lawn mower…they’d needs wings and have be flying above to even notice. Besides, he’s not my neighbor so it really doesn’t matter to any of my family anyway. I was just giving ya’ll the scoop :)

By Rick

January 11, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Hey BANKING BABY - when you were showing with your daddy (when you were a young girl), did you ever wonder why he didn’t use a washcloth when he washed you?

By Cletus Snow

January 11, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

If there is something objectionable in a neighbors yard, I would put up a privacy fence. If I felt strongly enoughI would move but I would choose my next residence more carefully.

By scubber

January 11, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

A funny, albeit passive aggressive, solution for your friend may be to install a motion sensor flood light on your house shining on the area where her neighbor’s spas sets. Every time he comes out he will have x2- 100 Watt Bulbs shining on him.

He may build a screen without you having to say a word!

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Showering with your parents when you are little is not dirty. It amazes me what people try to turn things in to. Again, they are the real perverts.

By David

January 11, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

To Robin

I suggest some other means of embarrasing him. To teach children that if certain of their bodyparts are small they should be ashamed and feel inadequate is the genesis of a great many emotional problems later in life.

By Blech

January 11, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

And the perverts have officially arrived! I hope you don’t have daughters, Rick.

By lynn

January 11, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Oh Rick, that was tacky!

By banking baby

January 11, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Rick, you are sick and obviously a perv. Since you don’t know me, I was three when my father quit showering with me. If you want to cast rocks at my family gene pool, go ahead. Every one of the individuals in this blog who has a problem with the naked neighbor needs to examine their own hang-ups and reassess themselves. It’s the man’s own yard. Tell the kids that this is what he wants to do. If Momma doesn’t want them to look, tell kiddies not to look.

By Love nudity

January 11, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Hey ladies and gents tell me this: the famous country club chicks selling their kittys, that is all in the news right now, it was said by many neighbors that you could see nudity and sex acts taken place through her windows, yet no one complained until now.. Why is that? Deep down did they really like it? or were they being good neighbors and realizing it wasnt any of their business what takes place inside someones home?

I am actually surprised that we have so many people in this blog that is offended by this guys actions and i cannot believe we have so many bloggers against nudity when we live in such a sex filled world and society now adays. Just look at MISS. USA kissing and fondoling other chicks and MISS. Teen USA and MISS NEVADA. Hollywood exploits sex all day long. gesh.. whats the problem.. Do we have people being two sided and two faced? I think so.. Its okay to take part in things such as nudity, sex, drinking, drugs ect.. as long as you dont get caught, but send the person who does get caught to hell and damn nation.. That doesnt make since…

Step back and think logically, look at the whole picture and not through small goggles. What this man is doing does make some of his neighbors uncomfortable, we acknowledge that. The question is: Is the man diplaying the nudity with the intent of wanting to be seen by other people? Is the man displaying the nudity with the intent to intice children to his house? Does this man have any kind of criminal record? OR is this man simply relaxing in his outdoor hottub nude? Is he simply enjoying the solidarity of being nude in his fenced in back yard and in his closed in house? Think people…

NUDITY DOES NOT EQUAL BEING A PERVERT OR CHILD PREDATOR OR RAPIST OR MENTALLY UNSTABLE… ITS A FREEDOM OF CHOICE..although, this mans actions depending on his motives could be unhealthy and wrong but who will be the proper authority to make that decision?

By Renee

January 11, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Hey Love nudity - your 12:08 post is a flat out lie.

There have been absolutely no reports that the neighbors could see the country club chicks having sex and all through their windows. I live in that community and have been listening to every single report about the arrest of those whores. There has not been any report that neighbors saw their sex acts through windows.

Shame on you for lying.

By Richard

January 11, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

Remember (for those saying its his right to be nude outside): you don’t have the right to do anything you want. You don’t have the right to yell FIRE in a crowded theatre. You don’t have the right to rob a bank. You don’t even have the right to murder someone in the “privacy of your own backyard”.

By Rod

January 11, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

I like scubber’s idea at 11:33 about the spotlights!

By scubber

January 11, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

You are pretty funny Love Nudity. Not for comic finesse, rather in your ineloquent, fumbling over semantics and situational leverages to explain your hapless attempt to prove that you are innocent of all wrong, love your wife and children. I admire your passion nonetheless.

Just a little advice. You are digging yourself in so deep, I do not think anyone can see you for the piles of bullsh*t surrounding you.

I am sure your a nice guy and I understand what you are trying to say.

By Brilliance

January 11, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Here’s an idea: Talk to him. Explain the situation and that you have young children who aren’t quite ready for an eyeful and see what happens. If he’s like most people, and your friend is friendly and sweet about it, he’ll probably be absolutely mortified and put up a sheild screen. They’re cheap and easy to install. Some relatives had a similar situation (they were the nakedees) and were horrified and put up the screen. They are best friends with their neighbors now. And yes, the neighbors have hot-tub/pool priviledges now.

Problem solved.

By Robin

January 11, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

To David,

You are right. I retract my suggestion. There must be another way to embarrass the neighbor into putting up a privacy fence or putting on some trunks.

By Jacob

January 11, 2007 01:02 PM | Link to this

The Puritan attitude toward not only nudity, but civil liberties, shown on this blog is terrifying. It is not illegal to be naked on your won property, regardless of who lives next to you. Knowledge that a family with kids living behind you does not constitute knowledge that those kids are watching your every move, and you should therefore not engage in legal acts that could potentially be inappropriate for children to view, even in the privacy of your own property. To make a statement to the police that this person is engaging in lewd acts that have anything to do with minors is not only immoral and untruthful, but criminal. Mind your business and shut your blinds. The offer to pay for a privacy screen for the man is also a good one, but any assumption that he is a pervert is baseless and dangerous.

By sherry

January 11, 2007 01:04 PM | Link to this

My question is (and maybe I missed the answer way back before the kids started arguing on here..) but where is that woman’s husband??? He should be the one to have a man to man talk with the nude neighbor. Personally I think what one does in the privacy of their own home as long as they have a fence up is ok…it’s just unfortunate that the lady bought a home “high on the hill” and her children are able to see him. I always got nude in my hot tub but it was in my sunroom at the back of my house…I would just drag this 50 something year old body in there and soak…not thinking one wild sexy naughty enticing erotic thought…just soaking the old bones! Hmmm..I wonder if that’s why my neighbors moved…??? Do you reckon they saw through the trees after all?? Ohhh nooo…now I am probably being labeled a perverse old woman in some newspaper blog!

Have fun kids..this arguing is getting old now so I will go find something else to read…obituaries maybe.

By Rod

January 11, 2007 01:10 PM | Link to this

Theresa, where are you? Comments?

By New

January 11, 2007 01:12 PM | Link to this

Ok I’m new to this, can anyone help me….how do I bold/italicize my comments….if anyone can tell me without being mean….thx!

By David

January 11, 2007 01:13 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Robin. I would even go further and second the suggestion that the friend approach the neighbor in a calm, reasonable way and togther they can arrive at a solution which will allow both of them to “win”. She, to shield the children, and he, to enjoy whatever feelings being nude gives him. Neither side has to be judgemental about the position of the other.

By Richard

January 11, 2007 01:22 PM | Link to this

Hey New:

In order to italisize, you have to put a star ( * ) immediately in front of and behind what you want to italisize.

In order to bold, you have to put two starts ( ** ) immediately in front of and behind what you want to bold.

Also, you can read the instructions just above the Comment box you type in.

By Renee

January 11, 2007 01:25 PM | Link to this

My suggestion: Next time he’s out in the yard nude, have someone run up to his fence and toss over a naked blow-up doll. When he walks over to it and picks it up - take pictures (from the window) of him and the doll: naked (after all, if he has the right to be naked in his yard, I have the right to take pictures in my house).

You then print those up and post them all over the neighborhood (and put some in people’s mailboxes). He’ll quit pretty soon and move away.

By Louisiana Girl

January 11, 2007 01:31 PM | Link to this

I believe it is a person’s right to do what they want on their property as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of the people in close proximity. At the same time, I’m sure this neighbor is not outside in the sauna 24/7.

Yes, going and having a conversation with the guy is one idea, but I’d go for a more simplistic resolve and just close my blinds/curtains for the time he is out there.

Very small children won’t care about the nudity, the older ones may have questions that I feel I would be mature enough to answer. And like another blogger replied, they’ll get bored with him anyway and ignore it.

By New

January 11, 2007 01:31 PM | Link to this

Thanks Richard…tough blog, too many wanna-be bullies…..

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 01:41 PM | Link to this

Way to go Renee! Great idea!

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 01:43 PM | Link to this

Renee: It is scary to think that you would actually do something illegal, like setting someone up. That’s pretty pathetic and it really shows what kind of person you are.

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 01:45 PM | Link to this

Richard: You cannot do the things you mentioned because they are illegal. And robbing a bank and murdering someone is a far cry from being nude in your own backyard.

By Theresa

January 11, 2007 01:46 PM | Link to this

Rod — i’m here and I’m skimming and scanning — I can’t delete stuff unless it crosses a line and I think we’re ok so far —

By SA

January 11, 2007 01:48 PM | Link to this

My German in-laws would find this entire debate hilarious. It is a total non-issue there and should be here as well.

By Renee

January 11, 2007 01:49 PM | Link to this

Jennifer - what’s the problem? I’m not using photoshop to create a picture, just clicking something that’s happening?!?!

By Ted

January 11, 2007 01:54 PM | Link to this

Naked neighbor gets, like, 200 posts

US troop surge in Iraq gets barely any attention.

Get a life, people

By scubber

January 11, 2007 01:56 PM | Link to this

Will the real Jennifer please stand up?!?!

You know, the sane one. Not the one who agrees that children should not see nude persons, but supposes the heinous spectre of their mother inflating a sex doll then photographing a nude person for malicious intent is appropriate.

That was obviously a humorous suggestion by Renée, albeit not so much.

By TotalHogwash

January 11, 2007 02:00 PM | Link to this

“Love Nudity”, whata’buncha BS! You’re a pipe-dreamer! I can read thru that tall-tale of some “hot chick” hawking on you. As I bartender, I’ve heard soooo much horsepuckey in my days, that I can even read through on-line too! Nice add-on about the hot wife too…another wishful thought I bet’cha. You’re probably some scrub living in Mommy & Daddy’s basement! It’s funny how you’ve conned these marks on this blog with that little fantasy! LOL

By Humbug

January 11, 2007 02:11 PM | Link to this

KEEP YOUR NOSE AND MORALS OUT OF YOUR NEIGHBORS LIFESTYLE. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT EVERYONE IS NOT PERFECT AND DO SOME THINGS THAT NEIGHBORS OR OTHERS FIND OFFENSIVE.GET A LIFE AND STOP YOUR PEEPING TOM ANTICS.

By deidre nc

January 11, 2007 02:15 PM | Link to this

why do so many people want to do things to humiliate or embarrass this man? he may not realize that the neighbor kids can see him…just tell him whats what and see what happens..then if he keeps on go back to the drawing board on what to do. any also..are the kids really even bothered by this? my kids would probably say ewwww and laugh and get over it…

By Renee

January 11, 2007 02:16 PM | Link to this

Hey Ted, I see you’re looking in here.

Why don’t you get your own life?

By Rick

January 11, 2007 02:18 PM | Link to this

Renee wins the prize for the best solution, hands down! She said:

Next time he’s out in the yard nude, have someone run up to his fence and toss over a naked blow-up doll. When he walks over to it and picks it up - take pictures (from the window) of him and the doll: naked (after all, if he has the right to be naked in his yard, I have the right to take pictures in my house).

You then print those up and post them all over the neighborhood (and put some in people’s mailboxes). He’ll quit pretty soon and move away.

By Jonmaldon

January 11, 2007 02:21 PM | Link to this

Aint’ that the truth Ted!

By deidre nc

January 11, 2007 02:22 PM | Link to this

theresa why dont you change the topic?

By Love nudity

January 11, 2007 02:25 PM | Link to this

TotalHogwash,

I could give a shi* if you believe my story or not.. The great thing and the thing that has me lmao is that my story is 100% true, it really happened in austin texas when I was stationed at Ft. Hood Tx. Obviously you need more life teachings from more intelligent places than a bar.. Everyone knows that a bar is full of immature, drunk, desperate, pathetic people. It is filled with desperate guys that would sleep with any ugly, fat, skinny, black or white girl that would give them the opportunity..

Seems to be alot of jealous people blogging today. First renee wanted to bash me even though I never said a single negative thing to her and now it is this immature, young, want a be bartender sweating me.. Dayummmmm I am famous…

Anybody want to just get naked and relax in my hot tub with me and my wife?

By grizzardfan

January 11, 2007 02:26 PM | Link to this

The late great Lewis Grizzard once commented about the difference between ‘naked’ and ‘nekkid’. He said, “naked means you don’t have on any clothes; nekkid means you don’t have on any clothes and you’re up to something”!

By Stacey

January 11, 2007 02:29 PM | Link to this

I agree with Brilliance. It’s quite possible that the neighbor is truly unaware that his pool area isn’t private. I think if your friend approaches him calmly and explains her point of view (no pun intended), they can probably come up with a solution to satisfy everyone.

My house has a big (uncovered) semi-circular window and I thought it was too high for anyone to be able to see into. Although I didn’t make a habit of it, I would make an occasional nude dash past the window to get to the laundry room. One night as I was coming home from work, my husband walked past the window and I could see him clear as a bell from the street. While I don’t consider myself a prude, I certainly never meant to be the perv who was flashing the whole neighborhood!

By deidre nc

January 11, 2007 02:33 PM | Link to this

man i miss lewis grizzard!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(:(:(

By Love nudity

January 11, 2007 02:34 PM | Link to this

TotalHogwash: lets do this, choose a web site and I will download a family photo of me with my kids and hot as* wife, also I will scan a copy of my pay check stub, the people can vote and decide who the immature, young scrub is me or you. BY the way I live in Bridge Mill subdivision in canton georgia.. look it up on the web, its not a subdivision that a scrub can afford.. Get a life by young little bartender…

By reneeneedstogetlaid

January 11, 2007 02:44 PM | Link to this

better idea. renee needs to take the stick out of her butt.

By Jennifer (semi sane)

January 11, 2007 02:51 PM | Link to this

Love nudity, you are like so cool!!

For real, don’t try too hard. You had some excellent points but no one cares how hot your wife is or what your zipcode is. It’s also not a good idea at all to be sharing family photos with the world of weirdos just to prove a point. Ever heard the saying “Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics?” I hate having to use that ugly joke to prove a point but hopefully you get it.

It’s fun to get on here and learn from other parents, catch a little snark and move on, but I hate to see you expose your wife and kids to some sicko because you thought you had to win some idiotic argument.

By privacy

January 11, 2007 02:52 PM | Link to this

by privacy,

I think that the neighbor needs to show a little more respect, to the mother with kids. If he has to swim in a nude he needs to do so in a indoor pool. There is nothing wrong with him being in a nude in his hot tub he just needs to make sure that there is something covering it, so that the kids do not see him. Like some panels on the side of it. He should have some respect for himself as well.

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 02:53 PM | Link to this

Scrubber: I’m the sane Jennifer, I think. lol

By David

January 11, 2007 02:54 PM | Link to this

Staceys comment is on target…except for the last line.

“While I don’t consider myself a prude, I certainly never meant to be the perv who was flashing the whole neighborhood!”

Occasionally dashing past a window nude, especially if she beileved noone could see her, does NOT make her a “perv”. NUDITY DOES NOT EQUAL PERVERSION.

By Renee

January 11, 2007 03:07 PM | Link to this

Hey Love nudity - I see you’re still bragging about how hot you and your wife are (if you have to brag, …).

You seem to know quite a bit about the trash that hangs out in bars, hmmmmmm…

By Love nudity

January 11, 2007 03:23 PM | Link to this

Renee, I am blushing right now.. girl your boosting my ego, because you have sweated my all day long.. And your right I know all about the trash that hangs at bars because unfortunatly when I was single I frequented bars alot. Plus my EX wife is a stripper from mardi gras here locally..lmao.. god i was sooooooo stupid at one time, age thank god does bring the ability to make better choices.

By quake

January 11, 2007 03:35 PM | Link to this

I read the blogs ad nauseum. What confuses me is the number of individuals in this city who really does not have a life. Oh, by the way, this is my first—-and last blog.

By scubber

January 11, 2007 03:41 PM | Link to this

Columbus has an old blue law on the books stating, To swim in any pond in the city, one must wear a ‘suitable bathing suit’

Unfortuantely for your friend there is no statute to enforce the same in Atlanta. However, If the neighbor ever invites another man to ride him piggy back to the spa, then the cops could be called as that is illegal. One man may not be on another man’s back Against the law to tie a giraffe to a telephone pole or street lamp. I have no idea how that may help your friend, but it’s good to know your local laws just in case of sticky situations.

By Stacey

January 11, 2007 03:48 PM | Link to this

Thanks, David. The last line was meant for the people who suggest that the man is a pervert who should be arrested for flashing kids. He probably doesn’t realize that anyone can see him. ;-)

By Theresa

January 11, 2007 03:48 PM | Link to this

Guys I know it’s the end of the day but keep it clean — I just had to delete some fairly severe attacks on Renee.

By reneeneedstogetlaid

January 11, 2007 03:53 PM | Link to this

apparently, the moderators of this blog did not like my last comment regarding renee….. my comment is valid though.

regarding the naked swimmer, so what?!?!?! leave him alone. most kids will consider him gross (much like renee) and avoid him.

By reneeneedstogetlaid

January 11, 2007 03:55 PM | Link to this

theresa, renee has been on the attack from the beginning…. lets be consistent

By Kat

January 11, 2007 04:08 PM | Link to this

I didn’t have time to read through all the comments, so forgive me if someone has already mentioned this, but has the mom in this scenario spoken to the neighbor at all? Does she know where he’s from? I mention this because I have done some extensive traveling, and if there’s any chance this guy is European, it might explain everything. In many areas of Europe , people let it all show on the beaches, and think nothing of it. They don’t sexualize the human form the way we do here, so it’s no big deal to them. He might just need a little “cultural education”.

By Love nudity

January 11, 2007 04:11 PM | Link to this

Teresa,

When the subject is on a serious level do you ever print comments in the ajc newspaper? in the letters to editors part of the paper?

Also renee has been out of line….

By Theresa

January 11, 2007 04:11 PM | Link to this

I agree we need to be consistent but can you please change log ons —- I’m pretty sure that’s not cool (or nice) to say online —

By H

January 11, 2007 04:14 PM | Link to this

@Renee - Your suggestion of the blow up doll=very immature. How old are you?

I agree w/another blogger about the kids will see the man, think it’s gross and just avoid.

BTW, when did nudity become a 4-letter word? Why is it so wrong? My BF & I have “clothing optional” weekends when the kids are with their dad. If the neighbors peek in, whose the perv?

By HL

January 11, 2007 04:14 PM | Link to this

So, Love Nudity - do you have neighbors that wander around Publix with an empty grocery cart or have a pink flamigo in their yard?? Bridgemill is one of the biggest swinging neighborhoods…talk of the town…

By Love nudity

January 11, 2007 04:21 PM | Link to this

HL: I was not aware of the fact that bridgemill was a big swinger neighborhood but I’ll ask around to some of my neighbors..lol..

ummmmm.. if the other couple was goodlooking…….. ummmmmmmm….. dont know if I could swing….u never know

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 04:26 PM | Link to this

HL: Well, Love Nudity did ask if anyone wanted to get naked with him and his wife in their hot tub. I guess he already knows it’s a swinging neighborhood LOL

By Love nudity

January 11, 2007 04:33 PM | Link to this

HL: me and my wife and kids go to publix alot and the mexican rest in the same shopping center. We get alot of married couples that stare at us with drool coming out of their mouth’s..lol.. but no couple has ever propositioned us… guys are always checking my wife out and damn near lift the table without his hands..lol..

By TotalHogwash

January 11, 2007 04:49 PM | Link to this

“Love Nudity”, touche! Funny stuff. Fyi…I knock down six figures working 3-4 nights a week while putting myself through graduate school. BTW, pal lives in Bridgemill too. Ironically enough (as to what “HL” stated), my buddy recently mentioned that BridgeMill has alotta wife-swappin’ & divorced men living across Bell Ferry at that new apartment complex. My pal also said there’s lots of MILFs in there, so I guess you’re shootin’ straight. I just had to bust yer chops a little earlier hombre.

By Jennifer

January 11, 2007 04:58 PM | Link to this

MILFs ROFL! That’s hysterical! I haven’t heard that since the show Weeds.

By Love nudity

January 11, 2007 05:11 PM | Link to this

TotalHogwash: lmao.. damn im at work laughing so hard.. Yea im a straight shooter and make 6 figures also.. Everytime me and my wife goes to publix and the mexican rest in same shopping center those single guys from the apartment complex that your talking about drool all over themselves when they see her. Me and my wife are 37yrs old.. I dont think I could swing because I would kill some guy sexually doing something with my wife but I would let some hot girl come home with us and play in a heart beat!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Jim Hamilton

January 11, 2007 05:46 PM | Link to this

Grow up, everybody! Nudity is natural and healthy. Sheeeesh!!