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Calculating tax reform
Still trying to make sense of the property tax reform you’ll vote on in January? Three new online calculators help clarify the proposal.
Click here for the Palm Beach Post’s calculator, and here for the Sarasota Herald Tribune’s calculator, and here for the Orlando Sentinel’s (you can plug in your own market and taxable values, but you’ll have to pick a Central Florida municipality).
Both calculators ask for your market and taxable values. Find that info here if you live in Palm Beach County, here for Martin or here for St. Lucie.
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By Curious
June 20, 2007 10:33 PM | Link to this
Why, since we have a renowned Florida State Hospital up at Chattahoochee and a Ringling Brothers clown college over in Sarasota, are so many of those folks coming over to this area to vent on these real estate blogs, but none on this particular topic yet?
By Liars are politicians
June 20, 2007 10:51 PM | Link to this
FORGET THE CALCULATORS, ALREADY!
The plan is a total scam!
The rollback is to all of 2006. HELLO?
Future caps (and ? rollback) are subject to override by out INFAMOUS county commission. HELLO?
The superexemption is NOT likely to pass. IF it does it will help some people but eventually VIRTUALLY ALL SOH’s will be phased out (eventually everyone moves or sells via their estate). THAT IS THE GENIUS (read evil) part of the plan. HOW DO GET THE PEOPLE TO VOTE TO REMOVE A PROTECTION THEY CHAMPIONED? Fool them into thinking the alternative is better or equal.
IF THE SUPERexpemption does not pass - then what did we get? A lousy rollback one to last years numbers - and caps that can be fairly easily overridden. HELLO??!!
Governor Crist: When you said taxes would fall like a rock, you misspoke. I think the simile you were looking for is FEATHER. Because THAT is how they will fall under the plan proposed by the EXPENSIVE SPECIAL SESSION.
The politicians must be laughing now: Floridians are busy running these calculators and scratching their collective heads, when they SHOULD be on the first bus to Tally to demand real reform instead of the fraud they are trying to pass for same.
By SOH
June 21, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
I think SOH should go, the system is unfair and is taxing new homeowners (our children and grandchildren) out of Florida. SOH should be phased out and as a result voters will start paying attention to the budgeting process and will get their local officials to lower spending and taxing.
By cw1900
June 21, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
Good morning,
I enjoyed the discussion between “Neighborhood Comps” and “Rich R”. It was rational, and I understood what he was saying. Rich, he gotcha, buddy. Big time. Nothing he said was way over the top, and those are hard, real numbers. Rich, really, it’s not that bad here. I really compare this time in Florida history with the time in the early 90s when this state was getting a very bad rap because of a very few tourists killings in Miami and of those two at the rest area up on Interstate 10. It was national news for a couple of years, and Florida was getting relentlessly pounded very unfairly. Rich, you were here, you remember, don’t say you don’t. Think of how many people took advantage of all of that bad press and bought RE in the early 90s when it was in the toilet? Some of the same people back then, who jumped on the bandwagon and said Florida was the “old west” and a horrible place to live, now live here. Typical.
Bad press goes away eventually, and bad press is usually always blown out of proportion. Ignorant people and news junkies usually go overboard in their reactions to hyped news stories. This news story is way overdone and becoming a joke.
Max, the cynical side of you and the common business sense in you nailed the following, “Now this isn’t rocket science, so let’s think this through. What does PMI sell? Mortgage insurance. When are you at greatest risk of getting foreclosed? When prices drop. So what is PMI’s message? YOU NEED MORTGAGE INSURANCE! Which, just by an astonishing coincidence, we sell.” You got it. The average, ignorant slob and the typical news junkie I just described can’t see that.
Max, I am not up Rich’s a*s anymore than I am up yours. I’m on your side on many things, you know that, and on Rich’s side on many other philosophys. I actually believe you both in who you claim to be. Maybe that’s naive, but what the heII. Every now and then, you get mad at me, but relax, Max, I’m still the cw you know and love. Somebody referred to me years ago as a “likeable a$$hole.” There’s probably truth to that statement.
To the guy who compared 2004 and 2005 to story stocks…that was a great analogy. You nailed it.
To “Liars are politicians”, ok, no problem, you’re another cw hater, fine, but what I was saying when referring to you being duped is how you actually believe they are going to listen to you and your little march on Tallahassee is going to amount to anything. They don’t care. Your “correspondence to Sen Pruitt” ended up in the round file and Savior Ken never knew it existed. Cynical? Maybe, but more realistic and probable than anything else. When you said, “The politicians must be laughing now: Floridians are busy running these calculators and scratching their collective heads….” You are right.
I find it laughable that people are plugging in their numbers on these calculators wasting their time. I don’t like it anymore than you do, but our taxes are not going down any time soon. Not just here, for all you doomers out there, but everywhere. Deal with it. …and yes, our elected leaders laugh at you, and don’t care about you. They suck. We all know that. Just don’t look to them to make a difference in your everyday life. They are not saviors. Actually, they are more your enemy than your savior. I’ve kept the old 60s mantra “Question Authority” in my back pocket ever since I first heard it as a kid, and I’m no old hippie. It’s just a very valid way to view business and life, and is actually very patriotic.
Old Dog is rapidly becoming irrelevant and beyond boring. He’s been beaten down to a pulp. He has about as much to say as Steve or Average Guy. As one guy said yesterday, I’m in the same boat as him. I’ve been renting houses in Palm Beach County since the early 90s and renters have never been difficult to find. Old Dog, if what you say is true, your marketing skills must be weak, and/or the company you work for totally blows. What is probably more true though, is the fact that your clients who own those units are the people I have been describing for months. Greedy, ignorant, and bandwagoned with no back up plan, those people are destined to fail. There is an old saying that applies here. You can’t do busines with people who don’t have any money.” They will bring you down with them. Let them fail. It is good. Just stay out of their way. Those properties aren’t renting because the bones of the whole deal are bad. Garbage in , garbage out. Don’t do business with people like that. I told a partner yesterday, in discussing a prospect who he has been dealing with, I told him to tell the prospect to go blow. There are some people you just don’t want to do business with. It’s a waste of your time. You already know this, you just told us you know it, when you called them “foolish owners”.
As to my ““richer/holier than thou” commentary.”….First, I’ve never claimed to be rich. I’m very middle class, but I’m not like everyone else. Most everybody, not all, in the middle class are struggling financially because of their own greed, wants, and keep up with the Jones’ attitude, and worse, their misguided passion for wanting to try impress somebody, like the a-hole who keeps the sticker price pasted to the window of his new car for two months. That guy is broke and an idiot. We’re all impressed. Somebody mentioned something about a $500 purse. Middle class people have no business pi$$ing money away on $500 purses when they are paying on an automobile and carry massive credit balances every month.
What you don’t like is my confidence and my apathetic attitude on trying to impress anyone. I could care less about impressing my neighbors. I’m sorry about that, but that’s your problem, not mine.
BTW, how much is your car and heloc payment this month? I’m not trying to pi$$ you off by saying that, for all I know you have no massive car payment or heloc payment. What I am trying to show some out there is how financially foolish they are with their ridiculous spending, and more importantly, how they are completely ruining their financial future. The only thing I know about a $500 purse is that someone just spent $462 too much for a purse.
cw
By Carolina Gal
June 21, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
We don’t have this problem in the Carolina’s.
By Old Dog Realtor
June 21, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
If what I say is irrelavent then why dedicate an entire paragraph to me ya fool? Me thinks the fool just likes to yammer. ;)
By Carolina Problems
June 21, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this
No, you have much bigger problems, Carolina Gal
From the Charlotte Observer today
Outraged by county’s budget call on schools
I am writing to make you aware of a looming budget crisis for Union County Public Schools — propagated entirely by the Union County Board of Commissioners. They have voted to reduce the amount proposed for next year’s budget by the Board of Education by nearly 15 percent.As a resident of Union County, UCPS parent, and PTO president (Kensington Elementary), I am outraged by this arrogance. After encouraging unprecedented growth in the county by eliminating all financial responsibility for this growth for the developers and builders, the county commissioners threaten to deliberately undercut the quality and reputation of Union County schools.
With these budget cuts come the elimination of assistant principals, guidance counselors, reading recovery programs, services for academically and intellectually gifted students, school nurses, school maintenance, classroom supplies and more.
Six new schools are scheduled to open in the fall; they will open underfunded — and existing schools will fall behind academically and in routine maintenance. …
Susan Messina
Waxhaw
Our children deserve better: Fully fund schools
I am a resident of Union County, and my children will attend Weddington schools. We moved here almost six years ago, before we even had children, because of the quality of education in Union County and specifically Weddington.
I am distressed that what I know is already a difficult situation (crowding, mobile classrooms, teacher shortages) is coupled with a projected 12.5 percent increase in student population. And we are facing a budget shortfall.
I urge you to give further consideration to the budget needs of our community, to appropriately fund the growth of the schools that the county has allowed to occur. Our children deserve better than mobile classrooms. They deserve better than eating lunch at 10:30 a.m. due to overcrowding. They deserve better than getting a 6:30 a.m. bus because we can’t afford enough buses for appropriate routing.
It is unfair for our children to pay the price for the county government’s inability or lack of interest in controlling the growth. Please work diligently toward a successful resolution to this matter — a fully funded budget that allows our children to continue their excellent education and our county to continue to prosper.
Tracy Phipps
Continue stories of student success
After concluding my fourth year of teaching here in Union County, I am reflecting on the joys of changing the lives of children… and looking toward the future.
It is in looking toward this future that I was shocked to find Union County Schools may not have the funds to continue in the way of excellence they have been proceeding….
I can only dream of how Union County children might one day affect our world for the positive. I know this is possible because I am a product of the Union County school system, and I went on to graduate from college as a North Carolina Teaching Fellow with Honors, spent time giving back in Johannesburg, South Africa, and have gone on to volunteer in many aspects of our area. I teach at Indian Trail Elementary, and am currently pursuing my master’s in guidance counseling. I credit many of the teachers who took the time to teach and love me well, for developing me into an individual who cares not only about myself but about those around me and the world I live.
I urge you to reconsider the cuts in the 2007-2008 school budget…. Becky Knight
Third Grade Teacher
Money for schools now…or jails later?
As a resident of Union County, I am extremely concerned over the commissioners’ apparent lack of concern for the fiscal needs of our school system. The education of the children of our community should be our No. 1 concern as a society. Invest in them now, or we had better be prepared to deal with the consequences later.If we cannot afford to invest in our future leaders, then what should we expect when it is their turn to lead? Invest in schools now or jails later. I urge our county commissioners to reconsider the recent school budget decision and put the funds into our school system for our children. The decisions will be remembered at election time.
George Scott
Hidden fees attached to new homes 06/20/2007 08:53 AM By: Jennifer Moxley
CHARLOTTE — Many North Carolina counties are already imposing additional fees on new housing developments and others are considering the idea.
Home builders associations say the fees, which can be as much as $14,000 a home, are hidden taxes but government leaders say they need the money to offset the burden on public services.
“The homebuyer probably isn’t going to see on the closing statement $14,000 Union County impact fee, $8,000 Cabarrus County impact fee,” said Mark Baldwin, executive vice president of the Homebuilders Association of Charlotte. “It’s just going to be in the cost of the house.”
The fees are part of adequate public facility ordinances. Many North Carolina counties have them or are considering imposing them. The fees are designed to offset the expenses new home developments create, especially the cost for new schools.
[The fees are designed to offset the expenses new home developments create, especially the cost for new schools.] The fees are designed to offset the expenses new home developments create, especially the cost for new schools. “Any new fees imposed by the government, local or state government, to new housing definitely hurts the first time homebuyer, the low income homebuyer, because it’s a charge that everybody has to pay,” Baldwin said.
Cabarrus County commerce director Jonathan Marshall says there is another way to look at those fees levied on new development.
“I think where the commissioners are looking at it is on balance, saying is that fair that everyone across the board pays those additional taxes on school construction when it’s really the result of the new growth,” he said.
Every county that has an adequate facilities fee uses a different formula to determine the fee but advocates say the goal is to keep property taxes from going up.
“The primary way we raise revenues are through property taxes, and that would be the primary way we would pay for this is to raise property taxes to pay for the school construction,” said Marshall.
In some counties, including Union, the adequate public facilities fees vary based on which school district a new subdivision is being built in. Schools that have more overcrowding issues levy higher facilities fees.
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dear friends of ours who moved to up to NC 5 years ago due to a family emergency, are trying to get back. The change they have seen in the last few years of stressed roads, overcrowded schools, and rising crime that the local governments can’t get ahold of, is driving them out. People are moving there, they say, but at the same time, they know long time residents who are getting out and moving to TN, AR, KY, and WV to escape the future Florida, as one long time resident told our friends as they moved away last month for TN.
Good luck to you up there, Carolina Gal. You’ll need it.
By More CW Funnies
June 21, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
While CW went blind when he crawled up Rich R’s a*s, a greater clash of ego’s followed.
Who had the bigger rectum?
Rich R swears he does, but CW screams out loud no way i do. Look at mine screams CW. Rich R takes a look and laughs and says not even close. CW says b******t my rectum is so big you can see my cecum and colon too. CW says that everybody tells him how big is rectum is.
The debate continues,but we all know that both are fudge packers.
By Nascar WIllie
June 21, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
Hey Rich! My buddy done gone and got a new idear. He gonna wait til January, buy one of dem homes with that new tax break, pay dem low taxes until dey double in 5 or 6 years and den sell that house. He gonna make a ton of dough saving that money on dem taxes. He like a ‘tipper’ not a flipper. He uses dem low taxes for awhile to make a buck, den sells before the taxes double.
He don’t think anybody else waitin to buy cuz, like you said, dem prices is goin down to recession times, and they gonna wait until dey ain’t got no tax cap and de taxes can go up year after year. Them the smart ones ,not anybody buyin now and gettin dat Save Dem Homes thing. He confused bout Save Dem Homes. Why dem homes need a savin, Rich? Is der somethin you aint telling old Nascar?
Yesiree, we sure made a bundle off that last deal, didn’t we ol’ Rich? Now how’s about you send me that catalog you got for them Econoline vans they drive in NC. I’m a Chevy man myself, but heck after Jr. left, I’m a takin a look at anything.
Nascar waitin for ya, Richey! WHOOWE!!!!
By Chuck
June 21, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
My first boss, when I went to work for Westinghouse Electric right out of college, way back in 1962, used to say you cannot do busines with people who don’t have any money.
I haven’t heard that saying in years. CW, you may be a bit too crude for my taste, but you’re going to make a pile of money with the way you tend to business.
Chuck
By easyasfuk
June 21, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
Home Report: Palm Beaches Among Riskiest
Study Says Property Values More Than 60 Percent Likely To Drop.
Reports show that the real-estate market is in a slump nationwide. But a new report ranks the Palm Beaches among the five riskiest real estate markets in the country for home owners.
It claims the value of property in the area is more than 60 percent likely to drop further in the next two years.
Take a look at the report here. http://www.pmi-us.com/media/pdf/productsservices/eret/pmieret07v2s.pdf
By This is one terrified Carolina gal
June 21, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
By Steve Sbraccia General Assignment Reporter WNCN-TV SPRING HOPE, N.C. — The search continues this morning for the man police say carjacked a mother and her young child before holding them hostage for 20 minutes.
Discuss This Story
It happened Saturday night in Spring Hope just west of Nashville in Nash County.
The victim told NBC17 that she used the power of words to convince their abductor not to harm her or her daughter and eventually to set them free.
Reports indicate that the carjacker pulled out a post and mailbox and left it in the middle of an intersection where 23-year-old Edith Tabron was forced to stop.
“So I moved the mailbox to the median by the stop sign,” Tabron said.
At that point the carjacker ran from his wooded hiding place and forced Tabron and her 3-year-old daughter into the backseat of her 2004 Chrysler Pacifica.
“We approached police where they had a traffic stop,” Tabron said. “They had a car by the side of the road. He immediately made a right on a side road to avoid where the police where.”
For the next 20 minutes Tabron and her daughter were held hostage on the rural roads of Nash County.
“I’m begging and pleading please let us go—- my daughter needs medical help,” Tabron said.
But the carjacker insisted they stay with him until he reached Raleigh where he said he had to work out family issues.
“I said we don’t have enough gas to get to Raleigh,” Tabron said. “He said: ‘Shut up, I have money for gas. My purse was on the seat so obviously he wasn’t after money.”
At one point the carjacker caught Tabron trying to call 911 on her cell phone.
“He passed by a church and said ‘I can’t let you go till I have your cell phone,” Tabron said.
But a passing vehicle unnerved the carjacker and he pulled over the side of the road and let Tabron and he daughter run for their lives — right up to a resident’s side door.
Tabron told us that never again will she get out of her car like that on an isolated road and she says that she’ll always make sure the doors are locked in the future.
So far no arrests have been made in this case.
Police say the suspect was last seen driving the victim’s white 2004 Chrysler Pacifica.
It had a North Carolina license plate number TZD-4287.
Anyone with any information is asked to call the Nash County Sheriff’s Office.
By Carolina Crimin'
June 21, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this
Crime inches up in North Carolina newsobserver.com June 15, 2007 For just the second time in a decade, North Carolina’s annual crime rate increased last year. The rise was fueled by more reports of rape, robbery and motor vehicle theft. Burglary and larceny also have increased, while numbers for murder and aggravated assault dropped, according to numbers released Thursday by state Attorney General Roy Cooper.
By NEWS FOR CHESSBOY
June 21, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
LOOKS LIKE CHESSBOY AND HIS GANG WILL HAVE TO SIT DOWN WITH ATTORNEYS AND TELL ALL. SOUTH FLORIDA IS ABOUT TO LEARN ABOUT THE BIGGEST SCANDEL THAT WILL INVOLVE LOCAL REALTORS AND THEIR BROKERS, DUMB A*S REAL ESTATE ATTORNEYS, THE LOCAL POLICE, AND THE MANGERMENT OF A LOCAL GAMBLING SHIP WHO HAVE LOCAL POLICE MEMBERS IN THEIR POCKETS. TIME FOR THE NEWS MEDIA TO GET THE STORY FIRSTHAND WITH ALL THE DOCUMENTS, PHOTOS, NAMES AND THEIR EMPLOYERS WHO ARE BEING REPRESENTED BY CHESSBOY. A.K.A. CRUISE DIRECTOR. BON VOYAGE!
By Question for Chessboy
June 21, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
What local cruise ship has corruption with the local police? This is a more interesting story than local real esate market. Who are the realtors and brokers involved?
By To News
June 21, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this
What is a SCANDEL?
By Rich R
June 21, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
i am getting such a kick out of the folks that search the entire state of NC to find crime reports from newspapers.
I’d have to say that the entire state of NC has much less crime the the tricounty area of PBC, Broward and Dade.
Do you guys watch the local news? Read the Local Paper?
This is just funny to me.
I’ve lived there, and I now live here.
Just hilarious.
By Carolina Gal
June 21, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
Well, I guess we ustacoulda didn’t have those problems in the Carolinas.
By Double D's
June 21, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this
The Double D’s are coming. Depositions and DISBARMENT will be the local entertainment this summer. Cha Ching.
By Carolina Gal: Be Very Afraid
June 21, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
Carolina Gal, I see why that article scares you and I don’t blame you for being afraid.
They are actually hiring Italians now to do news reporting in North Carolina?
Good Lord, what’s next? Hispanics? Jews? Responsible organizations in NC should work as they always have, to keep these people out, along with Catholics, blacks, and anyone who listens to the Grateful Dead.
Elsewhere, I am deeply disappointed to hear about the budget cuts in the school systems. This means that teachers and administrators will have to work harder and faster than ever, to turn North Carolina’s young people into the illiterate, bigoted buffoons that they have always invariably become.
Finally, it should hardly be a surprise that the crime rate rose immediately following Rich R.’s arrival. Maybe Mr. Sbraccia can get an exclusive.
By Likeable a**hole?
June 21, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
Likeable a**hole? He’s just another one of you Palm Beach County snobs who thinks they’re God’s gift to this planet.
You people have no idea how regular people live out in the real USA.
Lmao, come up to Ohio, the real America, and we’ll show you how to live a clean life.
Get real.
By Ohio Clean Living Funnies
June 21, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
You people have no idea how regular people live out in the real USA.
Lmao, come up to Ohio, the real America, and we’ll show you how to live a clean life.
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As I was saying, come on down and we’ll show you Youngstown Ohio, one of the few cities ever in the country so corrupt and so permeated by the Mafia, that the Federal government had to take it over and run it until enough convictions could be obtained.
Then we’ll take you to see our slum sections in places like Cleveland, where we keep our niggras, and have cops shoot 15 year-old niggras to death if’n they get uppity.
Then we’ll tour Kent State University, where we shot 4 teen-age students to death for protesting our magnificent Viet Nam War. Since then we have shown our sensitivity to the world by plowing up the killing fields, and building a gymnasium on the site.
Then we can go to some of our polling places, where we stole another election for King George, by cooking the books and closing down before the niggras could vote. What business do they have voting anyway?
Yup, this is the clean-living America here, Boy.
By Rich R
June 21, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this
Carolina Gal,
Stop it, if you continue more of the SoFla scum will move here.
we already have growth issues. Leave them down there. It’s best.
LOL
By More Rich R. Funnnies
June 21, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
“Stop it, if you continue more of the SoFla scum will move here.”
Rich means more scum in addition to himself, who already moved there from SoFla.
By Rich R
June 21, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this
I do have to say that CW was 100% correct.
The big deal with Tax Relief was just a bust and you all will end up paying much more within a couple of years.
So, who’s gonna vote for Christ for Prsesident?
Just way too funny, and sad at the same time.
Perhaps we all should learn from CW’s wisdom.
Your taxes will NEVER go down and always go up.
Your elected officials will always put the screws to you, whenever they can.
Perhaps you’ll should consider voting for Working Class canidates.
The Rich folks will screw you everytime as they live in a bubble.
LOL
By Rents going down
June 21, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
A realtor told me that he noticed that rental rates are decreasing.
That seems logical since so many speculators are trying anything to minimize their negative cash flow.
Has anybody noticed this?
By size does matter
June 21, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
Rich R’s appears to be conceding that CW’s rectum is bigger than his. They both like to stroke each other.
We all know they play all positons except tight end.
By More Rich R. Funnies
June 21, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
“The Rich folks will screw you everytime as they live in a bubble.”
But Rich — you claim YOU are Rich folk. With your 160K house near Martin Luther King Blvd., you have been telling everyone YOU are rich. Will you screw the folks here every time?
By PMI
June 21, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
Maxi the turd and CW the idiot missed the boat on PMI. That was a NATIONAL report, it wasn’t geared toward PB County.
Your argument completely falls apart when you realize that PMI indicated that the vast majority of the country isn’t in any great risk. There were just a few communities that were listed as the troubled ones, and those were not even huge markets.
So why would PMI go out of their way to list little PB County as a risky market? Why not Miami? Tampa? Orlando? Those are all bigger markets.
Between the two of you you’d think you have 2 brain cells to rub together.
By Rich R
June 21, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
I’ve contributed over $50K to local animal charities.
Can you say that?
Such a looser.
By GG
June 21, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
Looks like a lot of families are moving out of Palm Beach County. - GG.
School district creates TV spots to stem student exodus.
Palm Beach County School District officials are rolling out a series of 30-second television spots this summer with a clear message to students and parents: Please don’t leave.
In the wake of an unexpected enrollment drop of 3,221 students this past school year, officials say the ads are just one tool to stem the rush of students out of Palm Beach County classrooms.
By PMI Funnies
June 21, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this
PMI does 70% of it’s business in the State of Florida, as they will be happy to tell you if you call the company.
But, idiot that you are, you didn’t check that out first — did you.
And there is no “Maxi” here. I know you are obsessed with a faggy blond Quebec boy from a rich family (faggot that you are), but there are Americans here too.
By Old Dog Realtor
June 21, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
A realtor told me that he noticed that rental rates are decreasing.
That seems logical since so many speculators are trying anything to minimize their negative cash flow.
Has anybody noticed this?Yes. Big time. The sob stories have become an everyday ocurrance.
By More Old Dog Funnies
June 21, 2007 7:36 PM | Link to this
Well, a 6 foot tall invisible rabbit told me rents are INCREASING, and right now he is more credible than you or your renter friend.
By More Old Dog Funnies
June 21, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this
Well, a 6 foot tall invisible rabbit told me rents are INCREASING, and right now he is more credible than you or your realtor friend.
By More Old Dog Funnies
June 21, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this
Well, a 6 foot tall invisible rabbit told me rents are INCREASING, and right now he is more credible than you or your realtor friend.
By More Old Dog Funnies
June 21, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this
Well, a 6 foot tall invisible rabbit told me rents are INCREASING, and right now he is more credible than you or your realtor friend.
By More Old Dog Funnies
June 21, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this
Well, a 6 foot tall invisible rabbit told me rents are INCREASING, and right now he is more credible than you or your realtor friend.
By Old Dog Realtor
June 21, 2007 8:06 PM | Link to this
The crumbling market enrages you…. :):):)
By Still More Old Dog Funnies
June 21, 2007 8:31 PM | Link to this
Old Dog -
ALL my properties are rented out.
I am a buyer now, not a seller in any way.
The “crumbling” market of your fantasies would be a fantastic money-saving advantage for me.
Alas, like my invisible friend, or a meaningful thought in your head, it doesn’t exist in Palm Beach County.
By Old Dog Realtor
June 21, 2007 8:39 PM | Link to this
Then buy coward buy! It’s a great time to buy!!!! lmao
By anyone else notice?
June 21, 2007 9:00 PM | Link to this
we all know that Ghost/Max is here all day and all night under different aliases, but…… so is Old Dog Realtor.
Any bets they’re the same person? I once knew a person who talked to himself all day. He finally walked in front of a bus.
The person behind Ghost and Old Dog Realtor needs serious help. When does he have time to sleep?
By Old Dog Realtor
June 21, 2007 9:13 PM | Link to this
“I wonder wonder wonder” sez the Coward…. Thank you for the free rent in your empty skull though. Spacious accomodations between your ears young man.
By Old Dog is Upset
June 21, 2007 9:39 PM | Link to this
What’s the matter Old Scumbag? Someone strike a nerve?
If you can’t stand the heat get out of the soup kitchen, you old bum.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
By Liars are politicians
June 21, 2007 10:42 PM | Link to this
Dearest CW: Now what would make you think I hate you? I don’t even know you. All I have to go by are your arrogant/judgemental/knee jerk rants that you post with abandon. I’m not too fond of those, admittedly, but you seem to be very proud of them, so I expect them to continue.
Point in case? You write: “To “Liars are politicians”, ok, no problem, you’re another cw hater, fine, but what I was saying when referring to you being duped is how you actually believe they are going to listen to you and your little march on Tallahassee is going to amount to anything. They don’t care.
Not so fast. They DON’T care when a handful of angry people show up and timidly protest their garbage legislation or whatever. But never underestimate the power of real protest becuase our history proves its effectiveness. personally at this point, I could care less - if Americans (in this case Floridians) are too stupid and keep drinking the koolaid, they’ll get the type of state/country these crooks want to design.
I do agree with you that those who overspend are playing RIGHT INTO THE HANDS of pols: When you pacify people with all the toys currently and readily available these days, they are LESS likely to pay attention to those who are robbing the treasury.
but re this: Your “correspondence to Sen Pruitt” ended up in the round file and Savior Ken never knew it existed. Cynical?
No - just downright wrong. My correspondence was answered with a phone call from a Legistlative Aide - who then followed up virtually every question/comment via email with a response… Did it change anything? No. Am I shocked (“duped”) because they didn’t give us what they promised? Are you kidding? If you could see me, you’d know I wasn’t born yesterday - wink wink.
Finally we agree on something: When you said, “The politicians must be laughing now: Floridians are busy running these calculators and scratching their collective heads….” You are right.
But you still couldn’t resist showing what a presumptive _ you are: As to my ““richer/holier than thou” commentary.”….First, I’ve never claimed to be rich.
CW: The slash mark means ‘either or’ K?
I’m very middle class, but I’m not like everyone else. Most everybody, not all, in the middle class are struggling financially because of their own greed, wants, and keep up with the Jones’
WHY must you assume that everyone is in this category? Some people are in trouble for all kinds of reasons outside their control: health issues, job loss, etc. It’s important not to assume that ALL people act out of greed… and I see no disclaimer showing you GET that…
Then you say: What you don’t like is my confidence and my apathetic attitude on trying to impress anyone.
NOPE. What I don’t care for is your presumptive arrogance. Can you determine the difference?
BTW, how much is your car and heloc payment this month?
Oh, one who must assume: Car is paid off and what is a heloc?
By More Curious Funnnies
June 21, 2007 11:44 PM | Link to this
“judgemental”
“point in case”
“presumptive arrogance”
HA HA HA HA HA HA
Only one person could sound so stupid and make so many errors in trying to write.
It can only be Curious.
By Old Dog Realtor
June 22, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this
Oh noes! The market it’s going through it’s typical cycle like it always has and I just cant accept it!!!! Oh NOES!!!!!
By Old Dog Realtor
June 22, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
The only winner here is me….. and I’m living in your head rent-free…. SING IT BOY!
By Old Dog BIG Funnies
June 22, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
The only winner here is me
HA HHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH H AH AH AHA HA AH HA HA HA HA HA AH AH A H
An ancient, incontinent, imnpoverished, ignorant Southern Redneck…. a real winner!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH
Old Dog, it’s time for you to howdy with your local Social Security office. Being 65, disabled, and having no income or assets, you qualify for SSI.
By Old Dog Realtor
June 22, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this
Sing it boy!
By Old Dog Digs Mom
June 23, 2007 8:15 PM | Link to this
Go fornicate with your Mom, Old Scumbag — Do it!
By Old Dog Realtor
June 23, 2007 8:24 PM | Link to this
The only winner here is me….. and I’m living in your head rent-free…. SING IT BOY!
By Old Scumbag Digs Mom
June 23, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this
Go fornicate with your Mom, Old Scumbag — Do it!
By Old Dog Realtor
June 23, 2007 9:03 PM | Link to this
Sing it young man! Now!!!
By Where is White Trash Old Dog?
June 23, 2007 10:59 PM | Link to this
Where are you, scumbag? I’m entertained by white trash at 11 at night, even better a 2:30 or 4:00. So where are you, dickface?
By Old Dog Realtor
June 24, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
Get singing angry young man…. SING!
By Song for Old Dog
June 25, 2007 12:34 AM | Link to this
Oh where O where has Old Scum-Bag gone?
Oh where o where can he be?
He’s slopping the hugs, his Momma among them,
Resigned to their po-o-ver-ty…
By Old Dog Realtor
June 25, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this
Get singing angry young man… Sing this: Down down down we go, down the market curve, panicking panicking panicking, bull markets but a dream…
SING IT BOI!