By Curious

April 23, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

It looks like it is going to be a long hard road for all involved in this deal and scenario. Soooooooo many people to be placated and/or paid off to make it work.

Wish the current owners well; bunch of really nice folks.

Just my $.02.

By Eric

April 23, 2007 9:42 PM | Link to this

It’s a safe bet that the necessary gifts and campaign contributions have been budgeted. The lack of roads, water or sewer never seems to matter when these big projects come up for approval.

By Frank.Drachman

April 24, 2007 7:15 AM | Link to this

Here is what is going to happen. They nearby towns will sue to stall the project. Oceanland will walk from the original price, propose a much more modest plan where they can’t make as much money, offer the people at Briney 1/2 the original offer, and all the “millionaires” will have to accept the much lower price because they are spending most of the money they don’even have yet. In the end a much smaller project will be built.

By Average Guy

April 24, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

What does the average guy have to do to sell his trailer for a couple of million? I have one in Greenacres. Anyone want to start bidding?

By easyasabc

April 24, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

To Average Guy….wait for a 65 years until the ice melts more, and then you will have beach front property in Greenacres, then you can start making your million dollars….but I could say that Curious can start off the bid at $.02 now…..

I have heard talk about a small trailer park across from the Juno fishing pier that looks good to many developers….OK everyone, here is your chance to make some money !!!!!!!

Lynard Skynard, great band….great story about the events after their plane crashed….. other great southern bands…. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers are from Gainsville…..and R.E.M. are from Atlanta…..

Little Rock ?????….There is no action there…..you have to be true redneck to enjoy a place like that….go at it if that is your lifestyle….and wave that Rebel flag proud as you sit in some hot water that is blowing up your a*s !

$3 million condos is reasonable for that location….you are near Manalapan and Gulfstream….as I said…as we speak, the prices are going up !

The problem with A1A is lack of expansion due to property lines…….the good news is that the Police in that area will have more New York speeders to catch when the condos are built !

I’ll take any home up in those hills where “Poncho” lives at near Santa Monica…..what a great area….I have to make a “Del Taco” & “Jack in the Box” visit soon.

easyasabc

By Erik Estrada

April 24, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Hot Springs Village is a resort community like no other.

All our home sites are sold on a first-come, first-served basis and our FREE Trip Preview fill up fast! Call or make a reservation now before they are gone!

http://www.hotspringshomesites.com/

• Erik Estrada, star of ‘CHiPs’

By IFI

April 24, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Sleazy is going to get the runs today.

[link]http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070424/home_sales.html?.v=2[/link]

By Prices falling as we speak

April 24, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

While gas prices rise — the average price is $2.869, up about 33 percent over a two-month period — the housing market continues to weaken.

The National Association of Realtors reported on Tuesday that sales of existing homes plunged in March by the largest amount in nearly two decades. It marked the biggest one-month decline since January 1989.

The report also showed an eighth straight fall in median home prices, the longest such period of declining prices on record.

Also a housing index released by Standard & Poor showed that U.S. home prices fell in February from a year ago, the steepest decline in nearly 15 years.

Prices are falling as we speak.

By HaveNotAnyWorries

April 24, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

$3 Million for condos built on the Briny Breezes site?? Well, they can put any price they want on them, but in today’s market, if they want to actually SELL some of them, they had better lower that price by about $2.5 million.

Lets discuss culture some more. Florida versus NC. Medical research…NC style…The Research Triangle. An extensive network of world class research facilities amongst the corridor between Raleigh, and Durham. Within reach of three major universities that are known for more than just football.

Medical research Florida style. An excuse used in attempt to justify building 10,000 homes on useless scrub way out in the middle of nowhere. For the purpose of lining the pockets of select developers, and local politicians.

By Ghost of Max

April 24, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

March numbers are out, and there is some consistency finally, in the sense that both prices and volume are rising at the same time in PBC.

While the median price for SFH’s in PBC was only up about a thousand, volume of sales was substantially higher, than the month before.

All in all, we remain in pretty much the same orbit as 2006, only at a slightly lower altitude, with prices off about 5%. That is not even a respectable discount. Sorry vultures, I don’t think you are going to get rich on that 5%.

Last year, however, prices broke sharply downward in the summer. We will have to get a sharp downward trend just to stay a few points behind last year. If nothing happens at all, we will actually be ahead of last year in a few months.

No 50-70% drop. Not even the 30% drop people like Mr. McCabe gauaranteed for his vulture-fund investors.

Meantime, as the Mike Finks of America search in vain for the housing bubble that never was, the stock market bubble grows bigger and bigger. It was in 1996 that Grandpa Greenspan made his Irrational Exhuberance speech, when the Dow doubled to over 5000. Now we are at a stone’s throw from TRIPLE the number that was irrationally high at double the earlier Down Jones mark.

Tell me, did the economy get 6 times bigger since Clinton took office? Maybe I wasn’t watching.

Or, could it be that we keep running up bigger and bigger numbers based on cheaper and cheaper dollars?

So Fink, where do you think the bubble is? Any geniuses out there still think housing is the bubble?

I sure hope folks don’t suddenly decided to redeem those shares of stock — we have nothing to pay them with. (Would you take a house in trade?)

By easyasabc

April 24, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

The numbers are out…what does it tell all of us?….

• prices are holding, and those who will live, work and play here are in no rush to move somewhere else.

• Realtors and their Brokers are not making money and asking Carolina Gal if they have a supply of trailer lots up in Raliegh or asking Rich R. if pie makers are needed.

• Mortgage Brokers are looking for a new career in Little Rock.

• Flippers who lost out have to either bite the bullet and wait it out or sell now to get to Ocala to pick the next crop of fruit for “Land Baron”.

• Buyers who have money, will buy……the dreamers will keep on dreaming…..and the “have nots” will still have to pay the rent.

Just because Americans don’t have the money to buy, does not mean the people who live across the pond or come from south of the border, don’t have the money also…..Europeans and South Americans have the money, because they are not like the stupid Americans who spend every dime they make…..and from what “Money” said, Americans spend $1.24 for every $1.00 we make……..Everyone is looking for a bargin these days in housing market……..if you really want to save on both ends….go direct and skip the middleman (the Realtor)…..why pay 6, 7 or 8% ?

If you think 2008 will be cheaper, wait it out…..especially the ones up in the northeast….where the prediction of 2007-08 winter will be nastier than 06-07 year.

By cw1900

April 24, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

morning notes from cw:

Casper, first off, when you use phrases and imply that the system is out to get you, you instantly lose a little credibility. However, I didn’t mean my post all that negative towards you, actually I was trying to understand what Max apparently saw and I didn’t. What I don’t understand in a situation like that, and it is obviously an unplanned , financially and maybe emotional event, and that sucks, but here is what you said…

“….the fact that Congress is definitely taking action with regard to the subprime catastrophe. One facet of the plan would call for a moratorium on foreclosures, and other plans under consideration will force lenders to offer restructuring from predatory ARMS to fixed rates. It should be a no-brainer for the eternally-greedy (EG) ‘not’ to force the estimated 2.4 million in potential foreclosure land out of the housing market - and onto the street - but apparently there has to be a monumental crisis first, and then congressional action, for the EG to be forced to correct their actions…”

Then you said, “I’m one of the schmucks out here with a bad loan who has a rare ‘shout out’ for Congress - taking up the issue. Regardless of ‘why’ people have one of these ridiculous loans (naivete, desperation, etc.) those on the adminstration end should be held accountable for deliberately targeting a vulnerable section of society…”

Along with the statements about the system is out to get you, and one would have to conclude that you are in an adjustable, sub prime loan. If someone is in a sub prime loan, it simply means you decided, with no gun to your head, that you were willing to pay a very high rate of interest, have an interest only loan, take on a risky adjustable, or some combination thereof, because your credit is bad, you were biting off more than you can chew, etc., and now life threw you a raw deal, I’m not arguing that fact, and anybody woould feel for you, don’t get me wrong, but don’t look for the govt to bail you out because now you don’t like the deal you yourself signed up for. If you are claiming you didn’t know what the documents you were signing meant, that is your fault. You should have had counsel review it and tell you what you were signing. One more reason to never purchase or sell any type of real estate without a good real estate attorney, no matter what, and no matter what anybody tries to tell you.

That’s what it looks like to other people who read it. Sorry, but don’t blame it on the loan you got. Number one, if it was a fixed rate and not sub prime, that wouldn’t be the issue. If your house is homesteaded, then taxes can’t be the issue. Insurance, now that could be the reason and all of us can relate to that.

Your just not making sense and you want to blame it on the system, and that is a cop out. Saying that a govt administration should be held accountable because you decided, for whatever reason, to get a lousy loan, is totally ludicrous and makes you look silly. You did it, you signed on the dotted line all by yourself. The Govt did not force you to do it, not a President, not a Senator, not a county commissioner, and I am not one to stand up for any of those clowns. I wish you only the best and good luck to get out of your situation, but grow up and stop looking to blame someone or some govt for a bad business decision. I’ve made bad business decisions, we all have, but I’m not blaming a President or the system for my stupidity.

Next…

Per the PB Post this morning, the nationwide foreclosure rate is higher than our rate here in PB County. Read it. “Nationwide, foreclosures rose 47 percent year over year, to 149,150 filings from 101,597 in March 2006.” 47% for the nation.

“Palm Beach County fell somewhere in between last month, posting a 6 percent increase in foreclosures year over year, RealtyTrac said.”

OMG, the country is going to blow up and everybody is losing their homes….but maybe not so much in Palm Beach County. Oh well, the doomers can always look to Dayton OH and Port St Lucie.

Next…

Tech jobs in Florida are gaining in numbers, and in Georgia, they are diminishing. Source? PB Post, business section, this morning. Look it up. Fink, you better stay put.

Next…

Chicago boy, Northwestern grads are falling in starting salaries and UF grads are rising. Google it and read. You are one bitter person.

cw

By HaveLotsOfSavings

April 24, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Oh no! my unemployment ran out this week. I just received my last payment! I tried to apply for an extension, and was denied! Stupid ‘right to work states’! Back in my old hometown if Detroit, I could have milked it for another few months, thanks to strong unions that control everything up there. Dang! We need to recruit the UAW down to Florida to straighten things up for the worker!

Now what am I gonna do? I have another year of school to go till I obtain my degree. sigh… I guess I will have to tap into my savings and live off of that for the next year.

What’s that you say? A lowly, never-do-well, ‘have not’ renter with MONEY IN THE BANK?? gasp…how could that be?? Even more shocking, enough to live on for the next year?? Yes folks, it is possible to save when you live wise and cheaply by renting in an inflated buying market. Yes, I have so much saved BECAUSE I rented, instead of buying a home priced at three times its tangible value.

Unlike the sterotypes MaxnEasy try tp perpetrate about renters, I do NOT blow my money on impulsive, instant gratification indulgences. NOR do I blow my money on impressing gold digging chicks with $200 to $2000 dates! I dont even blow money on buying MYSELF drinks. The dirnk prices in WPB are as over-inlated as the housing prices. I have lived downtown WPB 2 years now. Been to BRadleys ONCE. Bought ONE beer that cost an outrageous $7. To compensate, I made sure to stuff myself with $15 worth of food from the buffet. At Cityplace, $10 for a drink at Blue Martini? Fat chance!

Other money saving habits. Living downtown means rarely having to drive. Ever. The only downside of that was sticker shock when I had to gas up for the first time in several months. Gas was $2.47 the last time I filled up! UGH! Also, I cook my own meals, or have a chick cook for me. Dont blow money on convenience items like Starbucks, or vending machines at school. If I want a coke, I will buy a 12 pack on sale at Publix. If I want a cold beer, I will buy a 12 pack of Yeungling for $10, as opposed to putting out $6 or $7 for ONE at some pretencious lounge.

Its amazing how little it really takes to live on if you simply cut out the convenience, impulse purchases. Plus, who needs to pay movie theatre prices to be surrounded by obnoxious teens, and rude cell phone talkers, when I can borrow movies free from the library, that is within walking distance.

Yes, some renters are pretty smart with their money. As of the end of this month, I will enjoy living frugally in Delray Beach, and spending my days walking to the beach to study. Ahhh….live isn’t that bad for this ‘have not’!!

By Easyas123

April 24, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Lets hear it for Florida ‘culture’. Mickey Mouse. Daytona Bike Week. Watch out Chicago, Boston, and New York…Florida culture is gaining on you!

By Ghost of Max

April 24, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Havenothing -

2 to 5 million in the bank is lots of savings without being rich.

20 thousand in your money market will not last you two terms.

If you only new how riduclous and childish your boasting is. Grow up.

“Live” is not bad….HA HA. Most of us would kill ourselves rather than change places with you.

My last routine consultation with a doctor, plus an ordinary CBC, cost me 3K. What are you going to do when you get sick, as every human being does? The county is not going to pay for your care if you have a serious problem (other than your obvious mental problems).

When you stop being a child, you will realize being a bum is no life.

By Northwestern Graduate

April 24, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

I beg your pardon CW, but I do believe not only are Northwestern grads paid the best, but they are the best educated in the country.

http://www.admissionsconsultants.com/mba/compensation.asp

No matter what degree you have from what university in Florida, the employers in Chicago will snub you with your degrees from a Florida University or even a law school. Chicago employers has the best educated graduates right there.

Florida graduates, you all better stay in Florida if you want a job at all.

Being a graduate of University of Florida is nothing to brag about.

By Ghost of Max

April 24, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

Sorry we can not match cultural standards like “hog butcher to the world,” nor Al Capone, Richard Daily and dead people voting, AL-Arun and other Black Muslim gangs, the nation’s worst slums except for Detroit, minus 50 temps in the winter and on and on and on, making Chicago one of the biggest nightmares of any city this side of Chernobyl.

What a horrible, horrible example of urban and cutlural decay gone wild. What a horrible place to even contemplate.

It is not surprising this is what gave intellectual breath to Easyas123.

By Ghost of Max

April 24, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

You know, it’s funny.

Ask anybody. Anybody at all: What is the absolute worst place in the country? You know you are going to hear either Detroit or Chicago.

So where do our two “cultural” gurus, HaveNoBrains and Easyas123 hail from?
You guessed it.

Somewhere back in time, you have to figure Easyasabc came from one of those two places.

By Ghost of Max

April 24, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Northwest Graduate:

Atre you sure you graduated?

Using Law as an example, Chicago and Florida each have 3 Law schools in the top 100. If you expand your area to the state of Illinois, you get to include the University of Illinois for a 4-3 advantage. Oh Boy.

Looks like Northwestern did not teach you to check your facts before you open your mouth.

By Northwestern Graduate

April 24, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

At least graduates of Northwestern know it is RICHARD DALEY - the correct spelling for a great mayor.

He is not only a great mayor, but he taught me how to do the jive dance a long time ago. He used to teach me all kinds of dances when we were very young.

Unlike you Max,Ghost or not, Richie has personality, manners, and CLASS.

If Chicago was so terrible, someone better go tell the DONALD to stop pouring millions and millions into that city on his new skyscrapers.

Don’t even think of comparing a lawyer from Florida with a lawyer from Chicago. Don’t make us all fall out of our chairs laughing just thinking about those dumb lawyers from South Florida.

Looks like you are having a bad day with your figures today Max Ghost or whatever.

Those figures that came out for sales were the sales that went through the realtors.

How about someone find how many sales went on last month that were not through a realtor?

Yes, less sales by realtors, but not really less sales.

There are more sales going on without a realtor these days. And these sales without realtors are not being recorded here in these numbers.

You are getting to sound like a bitter old man from New York these days Max Ghost. What’s the matter? Are you running out of money or did your dog died or did your wife run away with another mortgage broker?

Have a great afternoon you dumb loser.

By WAKE UP

April 24, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Ummm…let’s see, is it just me or did Northwestern actually improve Max’s argument and then call him a dumb loser???? What a moron…

By Ghost of Max

April 24, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

LOL. WAKE, I don’t think the idiot even realized what he said. I love to just let these idiots talk and nail themselves. You get make a better argument against them.

By Ghost of Max

April 24, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

OOps : CAN’T make a better argument against them

Not easy typing with these big hooves.

By Illinois Law Grad '79

April 24, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

Northwestern Grad,

I graduated UI Law in 1979, and have practiced in the State of Florida for just about 20 years now.

Do not speak of what you do not know. Have you gone through law school in any state? Have you any inkling as to the workings and difficulties of getting through law school in Illinois, Florida, or any of these United States? I know grads from more states than I care to remember, who have been practicing law for many, many years, and before you go speak your false wisdom, go through a semester of UF Law, Stetson, or even University of North Dakota School of Law? Yes, did I say North Dakota? I did, and it is a fine institution.

My long time friend and colleague of 27 years, who hails from North Dakota, is a proud grad of that state university. Why don’t you tell him that his illustrious career is not so? You can reach him in Chicago if you would like. He currently is a Senior Partner in one of this country’s finest law firms. I believe a few people up in Chicago thought he was bright enough to find his way to their city from the land of “dumb lawyers from South Florida”, as you say. Yes, he was here for awhile before he went there.

How many more examples do you require, sir? I could type all night.

I would suggest an arrogant soul of your magnitude go through life a bit before inserting an entire foot in mouth. It is enough to make your Northwestern President quiver.

By sooter

April 24, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this

What a bunch of hateful people in PBC.Northwestern Grad.Has his own opinion,let him say it.He is alot smarter than you Wake up.Why don’t you move out of the house away from your mother and get a life and explore other regions of the Country besides PBC.All of you Losers that never made it out of South Florida.There is other places out there.DUH!!

By Illinois Attorney

April 24, 2007 8:43 PM | Link to this

Northwestern Graduate speaks the truth when it comes to hiring new attorneys at the firm. There was no arrogance and just the facts of life.

Chicago has NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY, LOYOLA LAW SCHOOL, DE PAUL UNIVERSITY, UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, MARSHALL SCHOOL OF LAW and a few other well known and well respected law schools.

We have plenty of smart local talent here who can fit in with the fast thinkers.

Of course the law firms here will hire the top 1% of any other law school from any other part of the country.

But for your average Florida lawyer who took the Florida Bar exam at least 3 times before they could pass it to become a lawyer, it would be too hard of an adjustment to try to pass the Illinois bar exam as well.

If it takes 3 trys to pass the bar exam, somehow you don’t sound like you are in top 1%.

If you don’t make partner in 5 years here, you are out. Attorneys work between 60 and 80 hours here a week. The lawyers in Florida are too laid back and slow to even consider such a schedule.

I didn’t know South Florida had so many jealous, bitter, and nasty people living there. If you all don’t like it down there, why don’t you all leave and make yourself happy somewhere else in life.

What a pathetic and pitiful group you all are. Your brains must be all fried from that sun there. Wow.

Illinois Law Grad - who is your friend at what big name law firm here? Maybe I know him already. Surely he is pulling in more money here than you are down there.

By Message for Michael

April 24, 2007 8:59 PM | Link to this

Michael,

It is sad to see your realtor Susan Carlisle, who is on the HOA Board at Saratoga Bay and who represents you the broker of Village Realty Group has you involved in a Federal Discrimination Complaint.

If you think you are financially suffering now, you have not seen anything yet. The worst is yet to come for you.

You don’t have the money to buy me out.

http://www.saratogabay.com/board.htm

THE OWNER

By Ghost of Max

April 24, 2007 9:10 PM | Link to this

Well said, Law Grad. Glad to have you practising here among us.

By To Illinois Attorney

April 24, 2007 9:21 PM | Link to this

You are quite flush with your success, Counselor.

We are poor here. One of my associates, Sheldon Schlessinger, earned a modest fee of 330 million dollars on one case several years ago. That was not the settlement. That was his fee. He had to be content with it, poor fellow. Why don’t you have your generously paid secretary research and confirm that?

Northern attorneys have a reputation for being pompous a******s. Thank you for verifiying this assertion. We know you think you are the best and the brightest. But nature has a way of being the ultimate arbiter and of rendering realties, and judgments, which are not convenient to your insular mentality.

By Douglas

April 24, 2007 9:35 PM | Link to this

Illinois Attorney,

Two remarks you made pushed me to reply. This is my first reply ever on this blog.

I spent the better part of my career in Milwaukee. My core concentration was business succession planning.

Bottom line is this. I worked the 60 to 80 you say they all do up there. No dispute with you on that. One day in a conference with a family feud going on, my best friend at the ripe old age of 44 dropped dead to the floor. He worked 80 every week. He left a wife and three children.

I moved here two years later.

In 1998, I saw another good lawyer at age 50 drop dead again in Fort Lauderdale. He worked 80 every week.

When I was in Milwaukee, I missed my kids grow up. Sure, I did many things, but time showed me what I missed. You will see the light someday. I just hope it is sooner than I. You’ll say you coach Little League and what not. Fine, but the one thing no father can do when they work 60 to 80 is the gift of time. There is not enough hours in the week to spend all the time you should with them.

I learned one thing about lawyers after leaving the grind of the north. Arrogance runs so deep in so many of them, they can’t even see it. You can’t. I can tell by your post. I knew so many of you, and I realized long ago, it would kill me if I didn’t leave. As for only the best lawyers are in the northern, large cities, not always true. Some country lawyers I know can run circles around anybody they’re up against. The trick is in the arrogance. I’ll leave it at that.

The green, Chicago kid is following guy’s like you. I pity him.

That worn out line of brains being fried in the sun points out your narrow view and, of course, the arrogance. God, I don’t miss that.

Enjoy your life while you can, Illinois Attorney. Did you ever take a day off and spend it in your kid’s school? I never did and I regret it. I now do it at my grandkid’s school.

Best,

Douglas P.

PS Illinois 1979, I’m with you.

By Illinois Law Grad '79

April 24, 2007 10:16 PM | Link to this

I will let “Douglas” and “To Illinois Attorney” speak for me in my reply to “Illinois Attorney”.

I would be proud to stand next to the both of you.

By Ghost of Max

April 24, 2007 11:14 PM | Link to this

As a non-attorney, let me cast my vote for the “good guy” attorneys - “Illinois Law Grad ‘79” and “Douglas.” I am not sure whether “To Illinois Attorney” is an attorney or not, but he had an interesting fact to share.

Douglas expressed exactly what I saw in “Northwestern Graduate” a green kid making silly boasts. I am surprised “Illinois Attorney” was induced to back him.

I know that this is difficult for the folks playing at home without a scorecard, so I’ll stop.

Let me just say that to be a good attorney you have to be a decent human being; you have to believe in people’s rights, the concept of Justice, and the ever-expanding potential of our country. You have to carry a satchel containing intellect and personal honesty, and use these to examine a situation. You must also carry in that satchel the store of wisdom that one person’s experience can confer.

If you don’t carry that satchel, if you don’t care about what you do, if you are in it only for the money or are just going through the motions, you are defrauding your client and the society you swore to serve, not to mention wasting the time of the Court, the jury, and the public at large.

I think I see some real getlemen in the “good guy” attorneys. Congratulations, Gentlemen, and thank you.

By HaveMuchToEnjoyAsaRenter

April 25, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

HAHA I am glad to see some cuturally enriched Chicagoans finally making their presence known on this blog. It is SO refreshing to hear from someone who doesn’t pronounce ‘coffee’ as ‘KO-AWW-FEE’. ALso, someone who know that true pizza canNOT be folded up like a peice of paper.

Was it max or Easy who said they would rather kill themselves than to live like me? Wow. So youre telling me that enjoying all the best Florida has to offer at a fraction of the price that you are paying would make you miserable? How is that?

My miserable life…Once in Delray, I will only have to drive twice a week to attend school in WPB. The other 5 days a week I will be able to access everything I need by walking. Publix, Walgreens, dozens of restaurants and clubs of all types, styles, and price ranges. I will be able to walk to the beach anytime I have the urge. I have allready met my neighbors in my building. All of them owners. I am the only renter. They have welcomed me with open arms, and am glad I am the tenant.

The condo I am moving to this weekend is a 2br/1.5. 1000 sq’. COrner unit, with windows on three sides. GREAT cross breezes, and terrazo floors keep it cool. I won’t even need to use the AC till June. Walking distance to everything. No, the FEC tracks are NOT in my backyard. I do hear the trains, but they are 3 blocks away. I love it. Spacious, breezy, convenient to all ammenities, friendly owner-occupied neighbors…Not bad for $975/mo.

Athough Max tried to slander my new neighborhood as a ghetto, an article in the POST boasted of Delray being the best of Los Olas, Clematis, and Miami Beach, all rolled into one on Atlantic Blvd, minus the negatives, such as pretentiousness of Los Olas, or the invading hordes of roudy teens at City Place on Saturday Night. East Delray is hot. Thus, the crowds that flock there on a daily, and nightly basis.

Re: Detroit, CHicago. I was raised in Detroit, but moved to CHicago as a young adult. Detroit is basically a third world city, which is why I left it for CHicago. Even still, it has more cultural offerings than anything in South Florida.

But to dis CHicago? Chicago is probably the most livable city overall in the world. Winters can be cold, but that is normal for much of the world. However, lots of folks like to exagerate the cold. I have spent 4 winters in either Chicago, or Detroit, and it never got to 50 below once. Not even close. There have been some short stretches of extreme cold, such as 5 or 10 below zero. Nevertheless, it never lasts more than a few days. Typical winter temps are more often in the 20s or 30s. A jacket, cap, and gloves and youre fine. Plus, I have never lived in a home without central heating. Cars have heat too.

Basically, having experienced living year round in both climes, the winters in CHicago are no more miserable than summers here. Plus, the winters there dont last nearly as long as the suffocating heat and humidity do here. The real cold lasts only a few months, while the heat here lasts 7 or 8 months! UGH!

By WAKE UP

April 25, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

sooter - DUH. wow, that’s a great response. First off, I don’t think I was even directing any comments in your direction. Second - I have lived in several parts of this country and returned for the climate. As for my living arrangements, you have no clue, you pathetic moron. I live in a nice quiet gated community with my wife and children - something you probably don’t have (and couldn’t afford). Weren’t you the one bitching about trying to sell your “house” so you can leave S FL because it so expensive here now??? Please do, the sooner the better, one less scumbag I need to pass on the streets.

By sooter

April 25, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

It seems to me Wake up,you like bad mouthing other people for there own opinion,that you do not like,so you have to be nasty to everyone who doesnot share your likings.Boy calling the kettle black,you sure do a lot of that.you seem to have a short man,s complex or your a very insecure person one of the two or both.Go ahead a live behind some gated community like some scared little spoiled kid with all those bills to keep up with the jones.Good luck Wake-up when those bill collectors are after you.

By WAKE UP

April 25, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

Sooter - are you totally f-ing dumb or are you just on crack or some other less harmful hallucinogen??? Look, I merely pointed out that Northwestern had basically backed up the argument he was trying to refute…not very smart for a lawyer who’s trying to brag how great his alma mater is…he can have all the opinions he wants. For that matter, so can you. Of course I will think most of your opinons are worthless. Do I think his opinon was wrong? Yes. Did I say his opinion was wrong? NO. I just stated that he was a moron for not knowing what the hell he was arguing about. If you call that not liking his opinion - go ahead. Again, as far as my living arrangements - I chose to live in a gated community to avoid stupid trash like yourself. I’m not worrying about keeping up with anyone, I just enjoy living in a nice community - that I can afford. Any offers on your trailer yet?

By sooter

April 25, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this

See,you in Memphis at the rib eating contest.Wake-up.

By WAKE UP

April 25, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

Sooter - what a wonderful comeback. The words to reply to that simply escape me right now…I’ll look for you waving through the window the next time I see a short bus passing by…If you ever want to have an intelligent conversation, I’ll be glad to do so…jacka*s

By HaveNotAnySafety

April 26, 2007 4:12 AM | Link to this

Actual Reported Population and Crimes:

Delray Beach, FL Boca Raton, FL Population: 65,598 79,831
Murder: 6 0 Forcible Rape: 26 15 Robbery: 132 53 Aggravated Assault: 494 173

By HaveNoBrainsAtHome

April 26, 2007 4:31 AM | Link to this

Chicago has little competition as the worst slum in the nation.

Latest 2005 Crimes per 100,000 People:

Chicago, IL New York, NY National

Murder: 15.6 6.6 6.9

Robbery: 555.6 304.6 195.4

Aggravated Assault: 624.4 344.4 340.1

Burglary: 881 286 814.5

A third world city, right here in America.

Is it any wonder HaveNoBrains has the young thug mentality he displays?