By MovingOut

December 18, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

Looks like 218 more people moving out of FL to North / South Carolina.

By JoeJoe

December 18, 2006 03:46 PM | Link to this

…. Maybe if the homes they build were affordable ….

By IQ Test

December 18, 2006 03:51 PM | Link to this

Prices are going down as we speak!

By Nonsense

December 18, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

Divosta has NOT dropped the price of their homes in Mallory Creek in Abacoa.

Has anybody been in to the sales office there recently? If so, any idea of how many units have been sold?

By Havenots

December 18, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this

Remember folks they are have nots which don’t fit into local economy as per easy and student. So when they sell their homes and move to areas that are growing only the rich will buy their homes!

By Donald Trump

December 18, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

Layoffs at the Palm Beach Post are coming! Thanks to a big drop in real estate ad revenue we can expect some of our favorite reporters to pounding a beat to the unemployment office soon!

By TANC

December 18, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this

Title companies have been laying off as well and/or cutting hours and cutting health benefits. I know of one major title company in Stuart that was doing close to 180 closings a month a year and a half ago and two months ago did less than 25!

By To Tanc

December 18, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

Which title company was that?

By easyasabc

December 18, 2006 04:50 PM | Link to this

DiVosta made their money over the years here. They are just another builder who also got caught up with labor and material costs skyrocketing in this country. Land here cost alot to buy these days, just like anywhere else. If real estate property was going down 50%-70% like some of the “have nots” have claimed, don’t you think DiVosta and other builders would have gone around and buying the lots up by now? That’s right, it DIDN’T happen here and will NOT happen. Everyone wants their money, and will hang on until they get it.

Most of these laborers getting laid off, make under $20 per hour. They could make even more by going around being independent repairmen or tradesmen, and collect unreported cash at their various jobs. Many existing DiVosta homes out there in which they can work on for repairs or renovations. If these laborers cannot make here, see if they can get the building jobs up in the Carolinas. Those Carolina builders import their people south of the border, to build the frame homes up there.

With less new home construction going on, it does not mean prices are going down. Hs anyone notice the prices of new condos these days? Everytime a new condo building goes up, so does the prices. This is one BIG domino theory happening here. New construction prices reflects on existing home prices.

Real buyers have their property bought within four months once they started looking. If you are looking more than six months, you are just a dreamer who cannot get a mortgage! If you are waiting for the year 2010 to buy, you have no money and a dreamer. If you are waiting for a 70% drop in prices in South Florida…..then you are just hopeless and need to lay down in front of a freight train. You are taking up too much space on this earth. Just because you mastered one crossword puzzle from the NY Post on a Sunday afternoon, does not make you Albert Einstein. Just because some guy on the internet gave you a high score on your IQ internet test, does not make you smart. Did you also take the drawing test from the cover of a matchbook that made you a “World Master Artist”? Have any donkey drawings hanging at the Louvre in Paris? Are you a member of any “Think Tank” institute in this country?

If you going to say something, please put some thought into it.

You look dumb if you never open your mouth in life.

But you can look real stupid when you say something very stupid without thinking.

easyasabc

By Monster

December 18, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

It’s economics. When sellers want to sell and not ask for past appreciation that is gone, then we will be seeing homes sell. Oooops, wait a minute, I forgot about all the new taxes, hurricane news articles that start in January. Where’s the bottom? Maybe 200,000 dollars lower on those 1mm homes. Maybe 300,000 lower.

By To Easy

December 18, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this

Easy, I don’t understand, are you saying that Divosta should have bought property that they knew was going to decrease in value?

The first paragraph of your rant makes no sense to me. Are you saying that prices have hit the bottom?

If Divosta (who must know more about our housing market than all of us combined) thought that the market would rebound, like you say it is, wouldn’t they keep building houses so they have a steady supply of inventory?

At Mallory Creek houses won’t be ready for about a year. If you are right the market should be pumping by then, and wouldn’t Divosta want to sell houses then?

But, easy, you are wrong. Prices are not rising as we speak. Divosta is cutting its expenses because they know the market here is doomed for years to come.

Don’t tell us that you know more about property than Divosta.

By To: To Easy

December 18, 2006 06:19 PM | Link to this

You say and I quote:

“the market here is doomed for years to come.”

You must have a crystal ball like Steve. Wow, what a neat thing to say like you are all knowing, oh wizard of mine. I shall bow at your feet and please tell me more insightful flat out, pulled out of an@l guesses!

What a joke. More people here crawling out of the woodwork with no facts to back up their claims.

There are very few people here who actually have something worthwhile to say, and you are not one of them.

By Steve

December 18, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

What makes your opinion better than anyone else’s? You obviously think the housing market is due for a run up. Good luck with that, you might want to open your eyes some time.

By To Steve

December 18, 2006 06:49 PM | Link to this

You don’t know which one I am, and it does not matter.

The fact is, it would be nice for the many of you who come here and post who only give opinion, to actually back your opinions up with some data, facts, homework.

Steve, you have only given opinion, no facts to back it up, just like our little friend in the last post.

I like to read all opinions if they have some facts to back it up.

There are many who make good arguments that we read here almost daily, and they are on both sides of the aisle.

The difference between them and you is that they have learned to make a valid argument with facts and data, and their opinion, something you have done as of yet.

Why is my opinion better than yours? I back mine up. You don’t.

Sincerely,

One of the frequent

By Steve

December 18, 2006 07:24 PM | Link to this

Where are your facts? You have an opinion about my opinion and in my opinion your opinion is worthless.

By Steve

December 18, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this

Gather your own facts, I’m not going to do the work for you.

By Facts

December 18, 2006 07:50 PM | Link to this

One of the Frequent: How about these facts:

1. 12% YOY price decline for October. 13% drop in less than 1 year.

2. Inventories at record levels.

3. Volume for last month was the lowest on record since 1993.

4. Foreclosure rates are among the highest in the nation.

5. Divosta, the “gold standard” for developers here, is laying off people.

6. Centex and Lennar are selling off property (undeveloped).

7. From above: Meantime, the National Association of Home Builders’ confidence index took a slight dip in December, with builders rating buyer traffic as “poor.”

8. My favorite is “Exploration Pointe”, which was supposed to be that 10,000 home development way out west, which has been cancelled.

How ‘bout those facts! How does that spell anything but trouble for years to come?

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FACTS WHICH INDICATE SOMETHING POSITIVE IN OUR LOCAL MARKET?

By very good steve

December 18, 2006 08:04 PM | Link to this

ok steve, now you can hang out with us, lol.

glad to see you on our side.

Sincerely,

Mike Fink’s doorknob

By positive developments

December 18, 2006 08:12 PM | Link to this

Here’s something positive to report.

Uriah has moved back in with his rents.

Seems the big lummox coudn’t afford his pita on his 1250 sq ft 1962 house in LW.

Great Mary Scott on Rye, she’s the tiger’s tail on Tuesday afternoons!

How the west was won is anybody’s guess on Monday night!

Morris, can you make it a little warmer in here?

You didn’t put enough ice cubes in my glass and I think there’s a bit too much vermouth.

I mean really of it all.

By Michael Fink

December 18, 2006 08:47 PM | Link to this

Inflation vs. housing costs, and why they are related:

I said this several times, too. I think that the relationships between income, inflation, and home prices involve positive and negative feedback loops that within a normal range of behavior force them all to align. (Of course, there are unstable points in the system that result in disequilibria; we call them bubbles, depressions, and recessions.)

I’m just making the case that in a stable equilibrium in the economy there should be a fixed relationship between inflation and home values because home values are a basic component of what we think of as the cost of living. I know that people on this board will disagree, but I think that the government practice of factoring highly volatile products out of the consumer price index before calculating inflation make sense when you calculate the rate of inflation for the purpose of considering the evolution of the value of real estate. The government data, which seems consistent with my personal experience of inflation in nonvolatile prices, puts inflation at under 3%.

The other evidence that I’d cite for the fixed relationship between the value of real estate and inflation is the analyses of long-term markets. I read an account—I’ll see if I can find the link—of the growth in real estate values in Amsterdam, which has a four hundred year market history, and New York, which has a couple of hundred years of history, and the conclusion was that those markets followed inflation very closely despite short-term speculative bubbles or panicked declines. (Amsterdam grew around 2.5% and New York around 3.5%, if I remember correctly.) This only makes sense. How could you have rapid growth in the value of real estate without rapid growth in wages reflected in the CPI to compensate? You can’t. Either values have to come down or inflation has to rise. The government claims to be committed to containing inflation because inflation discourages long-term investment in the economy and scars investor psychology. (Why would you put money in the bank if your savings weren’t likely to perform at least as well as inflation? If there were recent periods of high inflation in nonvolatile indicies, would you trust the goverment to keep inflation low in the future?)

By TANC

December 18, 2006 09:59 PM | Link to this

I believe it was Stewart Title. I will admit it was hearsay but the source was a very reliable one whom I respect.

By Developers Always Win

December 18, 2006 10:52 PM | Link to this

Alot of you read, but you just don’t comprehend. Developers always make money and always win.

If prices are dropping, wouldn’t it make sense that price of LAND would be dropping too?

If land is too expensive to develop on for developers to make the profits they need, developers leave and go into a new area, like your Carolinas where the LAND is cheaper. Building costs are the same wherever you go but the price of LAND, the undeveloped property varies from place to place.

So the developers came in here and while the LAND was cheap, they developed and now they leave. What happens? If there is no more development going on for single family housing, the prices of single family houses increases.

Right now there are tons of people sitting on the sidelines - trying to time the market to come in and buy. But you can only live with your in-laws for so long trying to save money for a deposit on your dream house. When people discovered that it was even harder to buy with no money down and would have to come up with a deposit, they had to wait and save before they could buy into the market here. That is where we are at now.

By .

December 19, 2006 12:11 AM | Link to this

LOL! To Steve/One of the Frequents = Easy AKA John. So “Easy” to pick out his retarded writing style.

Hey John, how’s the pink tract house selling? Any offers on the highest priced cookie cutter in the neighborood? LOL!!!!!

By Mike Fink

December 19, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this

Ugh, developers are not a “money printing machine”. They are in business, and like all businesses can lose money. Developers do NOT always make money, and do NOT always win. We have not yet begun to see the shakeout of this, many of these builders are going under or are going to be aquired. You can only write down your land value so far!

Kara homes:

On October 11th, Kara Homes, a major New Jersey homebuilder with assets of $350 million filed for bankruptcy. They are one of the first decent sized builders to make such an announcement, but it is unlikely that they are the only ones feeling financial strain at the moment. Larger homebuilders such as Lennar, D.R. Horton and KB Homes have already signaled that they will be reporting weaker profits or lower sales. The impact is being felt across the board as Kara’s bankruptcy deals a major blow to its creditors, who are regional banks such as Amboy National. According to the Ashbury Park Press, Amboy holds $58.2 million in loans with Kara Homes Inc. Unfortunately for Amboy, this is the second time in five months that they have had to deal with faulty loans. Real Estate Mogul Solomon Dwek of Ocean Township bounced a $25.2 million check five months ago and had his assets frozen by a Superior Court judge. Amboy says Dwek owes it $49.7 million, which makes it the largest bank creditor in that case. Ashbury Press also adds that Amboy was not the only bank included in the Kara bankruptcy filing. National City Bank of Philadelphia holds $48.2 million on loans to Kara. North Fork Bank of Edison holds $21.3 million; TD Bank North of Portland, Ore., holds $15.9 million; Yardville National Bank holds $7.8 million; Magyar Bank of North Brunswick holds $7.5 million; and Park Avenue Bank of New York holds $3 million in loans to Kara. Kara’s bankruptcy may be a good time for investors to think about whether more banks are exposed to this same problem. In the past year, bank exposure to mortgages and home loans has hit an eight year peak. If more of these bankruptcies occur, the Federal Reserve may have a much more serious problem to deal with than inflation.

http://www.dailyfx.com/story/specialreport/specialreports/WatchWhattheFedWatches_1161196805704.html

One other thing. God help us all if traditional lending standards come back. Imagine the pace of sales is people have to come up with 20% in earnest money before being able to purchase a home. Again, this was a credit bubble that caused this situation; and the credit is still just stupid easy to get. I could have purchased the home I am now living in for LESS then I needed to come up with for rent. Rent is first/last/security. Purchase was no money down, 1% teaser rate for the first year (which would have put me under the cost of rental, what the RE agent was trying to “show” me. However, when you add in the taxes/HOA/insurance I would have been about 50% higher then rental, even with the teaser rate). However, when you throw credit like that into the mix, you create an explosive mix for asset overvaluation. And, so, here we are.

Anyway, I digress. Builders do NOT always make money, they very often lose it, sometimes going under. Kara is the tip of the builder BK iceberg, wait another year, we will see other biggies taking a dive as well.

By Mike Fink

December 19, 2006 08:37 AM | Link to this

One more for the morning:

Heard on squawk box today that Hovnanian posted a “big loss” (they didn’t elaborate).

Had Ara H. on the show himself. He said: 1) they did post a loss 2) he doesn’t think they’re at bottom yet, but are “near bottom” 3) his weakest markets are SoCal and SoFL 4) his strongest markets are TX and NC 5) he thinks cancellations are going to go up just a bit next quarter, then start improving Q2, 2007 6) he’s had to reduce prices across the board. However, in “some markets” he’s been able to tweak the price “up just a bit”

And then he states: 1) this slowdown is unusual in that GDP is still positive, and that’s never happened before 2) somehow he thinks the above is a GOOD thing 3) he states that he agrees that housing slowdown will subtract 1% from GDP, but then states “however, GDP is still positive, not negative which is good for housing.”

It’s amazing the spin that they have.

That said, the HB’s are starting to post losses. This means that they may not be as able to drop prices as many hope.

That will make Rich happy (NC as a strong market). I would add GA to that list, Altanta seems like a shooting star to me; I was shocked when I went up there for work. 500K buys a mansion in the Altanta area.

By Hey .

December 19, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

Hey . (dot) where is Easy’s pink house? What area of PBC? Subdivision? I knew he had a house for sale.

By easyasabc

December 19, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

Notes of the day:

A note to the “To Easy” write, Do you know how to comprehend a story? You lack the ability to understand of why DiVosta did NOT buy here. They saw that the land value here will NEVER drop in Palm Beach County. I bet you that you are a “have not”. I hear bitterness in your tone. Truth hurts, doesn’t it?

I saw the photo of DOT aka Susan C., i thought she claimed she was a 26 yr. old……she looks more like 56 yrs old “has been” grandma realtor. Hey Dot/Susan, go get a life. You are up all night thinking i am some guy named john that you are writing to. I tell you one thing, you have a face that would stop a clock! woff woff ! Who let the dogs out?, woff woff woff. Dot/susan have nothing more to add other that you are telling everyone that you are a “STALKER” on some guy named john. Try to go to sleep before midnight. Down a bottle full of sleeping pills and some Jack Daniels with it.

SOH will be around for awhile. Northern Floridians will not rule against the amendment due to the low property values they have. Face it, death and taxes we all have to deal with in life.

I believe i also read it was Stewart Title that laid off people. I will look it up which publications wrote it.

Before the hurricanes hit over two years ago, we had 30 businesses that dealt with hurricane shutters. Then it jumped to over 200 when the storms came. Now many of these shutter businesses are gone with contractors who left with hefty deposits from homeowners without putting up the shutters. Want to guess where these dirt bag contractors came from?????? You guessed it, Mayberryland.

Toyota leads the nation in imported car sales. I rarely judge a person on what they drive.

But if you ask me what is the difference between a porcupine and someone who drives a BMW or a Lexus? I will have to tell you that the porcupine has its “pricks” on the outside!

Once again, for the doom and gloom crowd, the bashers, the “have nots” in this area…..if it sucks here so much as you say….if home prices are high….schools are bad….we have so much crime….the jobs are none…taxes and insurance is out of control…and palm beach county is one big hole in the ground going nowhere in life….why? why are you still here hanging around? why didn’t you leave? I tell you why baby…..because this is where the MONEY is at….this is Palm Beach….money is pouring in the area…..investors see growth….and you are the ones who DON’T have the money to buy in here…..some of these are “flippers” who want to demolish the prices here, so they can start flipping again…..they need to know that as we speak, the prices will be going up in the coming months in South Florida.

Life is good in Palm Beach.

easyasabc

By Mike Fink

December 19, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

I feel the need to answer this question.. :)

I never said it sucked here, I love it in PBC.

Home prices are insane. Rent is cheap. So I rent.

I don’t have kids, therefore I don’t care about the school system.

I have never had a problem with crime in PBC; but I came from Philly, it’s pretty bad there.

I have a good job that I love, never said otherwise.

Taxes and insurance are out of control. I rent, I don’t have to worry about either of them.

I never said PBC was a big hole in the ground. Again, I love it here.

I don’t love it here because the “money is pouring in”. I wish the specuvestors would just leave so that the housing market will get back to a balanced, normal market.

Investors are seeing red right now, not growth. Our median price is dropping like a stone and we have years of inventory on the market. If any investor is buying now in PBC for a flip, they are going to take a bath, plain and simple.

Look at a Las Vegas/LA/San Fran/Arizona/pick your bubble area newspaper. They all use the same exact arguments. I hate to be the one to explain this, but somebody is wrong (all of them, imho). Every bubble area justifies its price by being special/unique, baby boomers are retiring here, forginers are buying everything up, and so on.

No, our prices are not going to drop to Oklahoma or Tenn, or any other midwest nowhere state/area. But we have years of time before we see upward movement in prices again, and very likely, at least another 18 months of dropping prices.

Once again, for the doom and gloom crowd, the bashers, the “have nots” in this area…..if it sucks here so much as you say….if home prices are high….schools are bad….we have so much crime….the jobs are none…taxes and insurance is out of control…and palm beach county is one big hole in the ground going nowhere in life….why? why are you still here hanging around?

By .

December 19, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

LOL @ Easy giving away the fact that he’s John. Saying the SAME things he said under different anon names when he thought he figured out who’s been outing him. Such a moron trying to pretend he’s not John, then at the SAME TIME lashing out at this woman (that thinks the dots are) for telling everyone that he’s John! If you weren’t John, you would have nothing to say about this woman. It’s that simple! LOL! You think people are as stupid as you are!

If you want to know what listing is Johns, take his full name, plug it into Zabasearch and you’ll find the address. Then go to any MLS with it.

Also, I think someone should email Susan’s company and link to this thread: http://villagerealtygroup.com/realtor_contact.shtml

She should know that John K is dragging her name around in his Internet pigfights. Why is this man so dense about the fact that he put his own real name out there? I can’t wait for this Susan woman to see all the things he’s said about her. I’m sure that she’ll be beyond pissed off.

By just wondering

December 19, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

I just wonder why someone named Dot is concern about someone named Susan? Does this John and Susan have something in common? Dot said earlier she was this Susan? Does this John know what is going on here? What are you all fighting about? Dot/Susan needs to get back to her work. Sounds like invasion of privacy and jealousy going on here by Dot/Susan.

By .

December 19, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this

I just think the whole thing is funny. I said I was Susan so that Easy/John would call her since he’s so stuck on her. I figured he was too much of a wimp to but hey, I tried. So, I’m not really Susan.

I just find John the fool entertaining.

By .

December 19, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this

PS, I think what has been going on with that realtor’s name and photo being posted is the real invasion of privacy. She didn’t come here with her real name calling people “haves and have nots” and being nasty to other posters. I guarantee you, she doesn’t post here. Poor woman.

By RCA

December 19, 2006 02:14 PM | Link to this

easy still saying, “go team”. i know you cant give up, prices are going up.

“The Days Of Flipping Are Over” In Florida

DECEMBER 19, 2006

“RIP” easy!

By easyasabc

December 19, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this

Holy Cow! I think RCA is getting the point. The days of “flipping” are over. Even RCA has to admit that the prices are going back up. “Flipping” would be “in” if prices were dropping. Therapy is working at the mental institute where RCA is at. He still needs more treatments, but he will get there.

We did not hear from RCA/Postman for awhile (Thank God). The doctors must have given him his computer back for good behavior. You knows what that means? We all have something to look forward to this Holiday weekend. To read RCA long pasted stories. I think i will pass on it and have my girlfriend play the game “Hide the Candy Cane”.

Time for RCA to eat his pudding with the other mentally challenged handicapped patients.

RCA will have a new pal soon. Her name is Dot/Susan/Fool/Nut/Stalker. You both can talk about your troubles together in therapy sessions after the hoildays. Let her be whoever she wants to be. She has severe emotional distress problems (that means she is messed up in the brain). Is having a nervous breakdown with the people around her (fighting with her boss, co-workers, family and others).

I do rest and have it good in Palm Beach. Nothing worries me. Property is paid off, no loans, no mortgages. My renters are great. Cash is coming in. And i have a nice girlfriend. The only thing i think we all ask for is peace on earth. Good health. And to win the lottery.

Lets make that we all want to win the lottery, good health and then peace on earth.

No, that is not right either. We should have good health, because if you have money, what can you do if you are always sick? Then peace on earth and then win the lottery!

Wait a minute, it should be this way…..Good Health for all, then winning the lottery, forget about “peace on earth” because everyone is killing each other in these countries today. Even the Arabs are in a religious war among themselves now. Instead, we should ask everyone to help the homeless, the hungry and the poor in this country.

Life is very good in Palm Beach.

easyasabc

By .

December 19, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

Easy, if I’m Susan, why don’t you call to say “hello?” Especially since you think Susan has a crush on you.

By Easy has completely lost it

December 19, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

Easy says: ““Flipping” would be “in” if prices were dropping.”

What?

Easy, I think you have gone off the deep end. You are not even making sense anymore. Maybe you need some time off and try to forget about the market.

Trust me easy, you need to rest and recharge.

By To Easy the Loser

December 19, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

Hey Easy, you loser, more good news. Allstate got approval to rasie their insurance rates again.

HAHAHAHA!!!

Prices are going to plummet. You and all your loser cheerleader friends are relying on this season to bail you out, and it ain’t going to happen.

Let us know when you are in bankruptcy, loser.

By To: To Easy the Loser

December 19, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this

Wow, what intelligent conversation you pose. You must be real smart.

Can I hang out with you? You’re a very learned person. Did you perhaps go to Santaluces High School?

By Steve

December 19, 2006 10:20 PM | Link to this

Desperate Seller, is that you?

By RCA

December 20, 2006 12:20 AM | Link to this

easy, you are such a loser. everytime you open your mouth, more money comes out of your pocket. you never going to convince me that you are right. so why try? i can see you now jumping off a bridge on the intercoastal. no, that pain is too quick. make me believe that i would ever buy a cardboard box in south florida. cant wait for next month’s price drop. oh, more money for the government.

Property owners face new 2 percent surcharge

By to RCA

December 20, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

rca, what is the “intercoastal”?

We don;t have one of those here.

We do, however, have an “intracoastal”.

You have lived here long enough. please get it right.

By To: to RCA

December 20, 2006 10:22 AM | Link to this

I’m a native Floridian, born in Coral Gables, raised in Kendall, and now I am living in PB County. I always said “intercoastal”.

I understand that’s wrong, but that’s not a measure of whether someone is a native or whether they area recent transplant.

By to RCA

December 20, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

even more so for you being a native, if you understand it is wrong, then just say it correctly. There is no need to pronounce and spell it incorrectly.

You’re better than that.

By who am i ?

December 20, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

hi, my name is dot

no, it is rca

no, it is mike fink

no, it is easy

no, it is rich

any pies out there?

no, it is postman

no, it is donald trump

no, it is dot

no, it is susan

i am renter

no, i am steve

i am linda

no, i am rich

i am oscar

no, it is rca

i am cmgr

no, i am cole

i am tonya

i live in atlanta

no, i am postman

i live in a rubber room

i am tanc

wait a minute, i am student

i am maxmoose

i am garfield

i am mickey mouse

where is your tax bill?

i am living in raleigh

no, i am renting in evergrene

i am student

my home is in mayberry

i live in a van, down by the river

no, i am dot

no, i am really jeff

really, i am susan

i am a desperate realtor

someone call me, i am losing it.

where is john?

i need mike fink

i am desperate

i hate myself

rich, help me

send some medication to me

rca, i have my tax bill to show you

easy, take me out on your boat

donald, i want to marry you

my name is dot

no, it is susan

no, i am rich in drag

please call me, anyone

rca

and i want to see your tax bill

By needasword

December 21, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

This is becoming Gordian Knot of characters.