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Do Democrats have a double standard about Sarah Palin’s family choices?
Shaunti Feldhahn, a right-leaning columnist, writes the commentary this week and Andrea Cornell Sarvady, a left-leaning columnist, responds.
Commentary
In November, I believe we’ll be able pinpoint when the Democrats lost the presidential election. It won’t be with the electrifying news of Sarah Palin on the Republican ticket, but a few days later when prominent Democrats and the press began publicly questioning whether a mother of five — including a special-needs infant — could or should be a good vice president.
If they had treated her like any other candidate: no problem. But questioning her because she was a working mom suddenly stripped the Democrats of the progressive, tolerant image they’ve spent years building. Democrats have long made their money from attacking conservatives as chauvinistic, intolerant and bigoted, and from positioning themselves as the only champions for women’s rights. And even though that’s all hogwash, it spread — largely because the press believes it to be true. Many younger working women believed it as well and voted for the Democrats in droves.
Then suddenly - here comes a Republican woman with whom working moms can identify. And “women-power” Democrats start the most jaw-dropping, hypocritical attacks. Liberal power-broker Sally Quinn explained that the vice presidency “is extremely time-consuming” and that because Palin’s children have special circumstances, “That is a distraction, and when you are in a position like that, suppose she became president in the next several months, she would have an enormous number of distractions on her hands. And I can’t believe that she would be the dad and her husband would be the mom.”
Wait a minute, did she just say out loud that a woman wouldn’t be able to do a challenging job because her children would be a distraction? That a husband isn’t capable of being just as good a parent? As Rudy Giuliani memorably exclaimed at the Republican National Convention, “When did they ever ask a man that question?”
The impact of this situation comes less from the question itself — it’s healthy to be able to raise touchy subjects — and more from the revelation that the Democrats aren’t the only champions for women and can seem just as “intolerant.” In an era when women are increasingly aware of alternatives to the old approaches to women’s rights, that paradigm shift will decide this election.
Rebuttal
Wow. Talking about shopping around a desperate theory. Now we’re being schooled in feminism by the far-right wing of the Republican Party? Chastised for offending women by Rudy Giuliani, a man who let his wife know of his plans to divorce her via a press conference?
Many have worked to get us to where we are today in terms of parity, but it’s the GOP who tore into the Family Leave Act, slammed proponents of equal pay for equal work and ruthlessly mocked Hillary Clinton for the very parenting philosophy that makes Palin’s complex multi-tasking possible. (And can you even imagine the uproar from that crew if Chelsea Clinton had gotten pregnant at 17?) Apparently “it takes a village” only makes sense if it’s an Alaskan fishing village.
Cries of sexism from such unlikely quarters would be laughable if they weren’t effective at distracting voters from the only concern about Sarah Palin that matters: What if something happens to John McCain? What would a President Palin do on Day One? The more folks focus on that issue, the more they’ll want to put Sarah Barracuda back in the tank.
Democrats aren’t alone in championing issues that matter to women. Many Americans yearn for a commander in chief whose knowledge of foreign policy doesn’t come from a teleprompter. They value a Supreme Court that isn’t stacked with justices ready to force women to keep the pregnancies of their rapists. They want stem cell research. They want schools with fewer teen parents and more sex-ed lectures. They’re amazed by denial of our role in global warming — and disdain for the real work in combating it. Finally, they’d like to elect a true agent of change, not someone who says she stands up to Washington, when in truth she pesters Washington for handouts.
Sure, there’s been a Paris Hilton-level buzz around Alaska’s feisty “hockey mom.” Yet when political window shoppers morph into values voters, they’ll discover that a McCain/Palin ticket is even worse than a Bridge to Nowhere—it’s a bridge back to the Bush White House. As that realization hits, working moms and dads alike will walk on by the slick selling of Sarah Palin.
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By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Andrea
Really bold stance: We believe in abortions so it is OK if we are chauvinistic, intolerant and bigoted, This is exactly why Palin is making the impact she is making, So you think the women of America are going to come back once they examine the issues?
Well, they are women. They obviously haven’t been smart enough to know about issues until they are told all about those issues by you and the wonderful liberal media. I don’t know which is worst, your arrogance or your bigotry.
Andrea, you make me sick. Get your head out of your as^ and look at what is happening. Droves of women are RUNNING away from your party that chose to treat your own most powerful woman like a brainless twit. And install an empty box that claimed that Hillary would throw dishes at him.
Lincoln, The Republican said that you can fool part of the people all of the time, so there will always be women that will be led around by the Daily Koss and the Huffington Post and by Andrea at the AJC. That’s a given. You can have those.
But when you stop looking down your overly made up nose at the vast majority of good women all over this country that do not decide their vote on one issue or by agreeing with the most chauvinistic, intolerant and bigoted attacks being leveled at a woman in my lifetime, you will understand that YOU are the one that is out of touch.
Your own post reeks of bigotry, so please tell us exactly why all those women are going to come back to the party of George Wallace and leave the party that put the first women in the SCOTUS, head of the State Department, has already put a woman third in line to the presidency and apparently are about to put the first woman in the White House? Please tell us why women are going to leave that party and vote for Barrack, empty box, never stood up for anything in his life, Obama.
By SAR
September 12, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Is there a double standard? That’s like asking is there a sun in the sky. Palin’s daughter who is not running for anything has been vetted and scrutnized more than the man running for the Oval Ofice, Obama. It took the liberal news..what, twenty minutes to dig into her daughter but it took the same news agencies 19 months to look into Obama and his many, many shady dealings and those he associats with; people like Rev. Wright, William Ayers and Tony Resco. How many are out there we don’t know about? She was blasted for being inexperienced. She was a Mayor, she is a sitting Governor. Obama’s bulk of experience was a community organizer. That lofty position means you work on get-out-the-vote drives for you local church that has no business being tax exempt and in politics at the same time. Now she has late night comedians taking below the waist shots at her special needs child. Desperation. Face it, the Democrats are in a melt down. Their man Obama in his so called historical acceptance speech was viewed by less than a million viewers than that of McCain’s speech. Palin has Oprah and Obama intimidated, she has Democratic women intimidated. She has galvanized the Republican party in a way no one expected it. Soccer mons tilted the election to Bush and they’ll do the same here, in greater numbers. The little Mayor from Wasilla will be the downfall of the powerful Apollo Obama machine and I couldn’t be happier if I tried. McCain-Palin 08.
By News Flash
September 12, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
Just last spring, Palin herself scoffed when Hillary Clinton’s campaign complained about a double standard in coverage.
“When I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism, or maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think, ‘Man, that doesn’t do us any good, women in politics, or women in general, trying to progress this country,’ ” Palin said.
If Democrats point out the double standard, they’re whining. If you ask questions about Palin’s job responsibilities and performance, you’re attacking her because she’s a woman. Any questions?
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this
News Flash
Palin is not complaining about her treatment, so get off your ignorant, high horse.
By Jason
September 12, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
Other Jack. Just to let you know the first female Sec. of State was Madeline Albright (appointed by Bill Clinton). And Nancy Pelosi (Speaker of the House) became third in line by virtue of Democrats taking the majority of the House and electing her speaker. You sir are an idiot!
By JokesOn
September 12, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
Poor Palin did not even understand the question. And then, she followed up with a hard line on going to war with Russia.LOL
First words out of her mouth when asked to be VP? “I do not even know what a VP does.”
The bounce is beginning to crumble already.
That is not sexism, that is pointing out her obvious naivete and ignorance.
By More Double Standard
September 12, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
From our GOOD FRIEND Karl Rove:
Appearing on Face the Nation less than three weeks ago, Republican strategist Karl Rove singled out Virginia Governor Tim Kaine, who was on Obama’s short list.
“With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he’s been a governor for three years, he’s been able but undistinguished,” Rove said. (Palin has been governor — of a much, much smaller state — for less than two years.)
Rove also said: “I don’t think people could really name a big, important thing that he’s done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America.” (Palin was formerly mayor of a town that must be ranked about 15,000th biggest in America.)
He added, “So if [Obama] were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I’m really not, first and foremost, concerned with — is this person capable of being president of the United States?’”
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
If you ask questions about Palin’s job responsibilities and performance, you’re attacking her because she’s a woman. Any questions?
I have a question. How far would your head need to be up your as* before you could make a statement like that. Obama and Biden summed up her accomplishments by saying that she was pretty. Then they said that she was being told what to do and say. And that was after Obama had claimed that Hillary would throw dishes at him.
Democrats are amazing. The person that is called the conscience of the Democratic Party is Robert Byrd, a KKK member. The God Father is Teddy Kennedy, a drunk that is so sorry that he stumbled off from a wreck that he caused, leaving a friend to drown as a direct result of his complete worthlessness. But he’s a Kennedy and she was just a woman. HE would be needed to protect his male family members from charges from other mere women, so he walked away from an act that would have landed anyone but Teddy Kennedy in prison.
But after all, she was just a woman.
Democrats, the party that has advanced women? Maybe if they survive the drive home.
By Gale
September 12, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
If I were to flip the gender for Palin and spouse, I would still have serious reservations about the candidate. I don’t think the problem is democrats at all. I doubt the problem is specific to a political group. I think people have a double standard about women. Hillary was criticised because she is smart and tough. Too smart and tough. Palin is perky and cheerful and a babe. She may be bright, but who can even tell? Right now she is just being a cute attack dog. It is all in how she presents herself. I’ve been thinking the “Thanks, but no thanks” lie is not getting near as much press as the “Bosnian sniper” lie. Maybe the right just wanted an American Idol candidate so they could top Obama’s rock star status.
By News Flash
September 12, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
Palin is not complaining about her treatment, so get off your ignorant, high horse.
And the Democrats are not saying Palin’s gender or status as a mother make her unqualified either, but thanks for starting out the morning with a nasty insult like the bitter, hateful, frustrated person you are.
By Mara
September 12, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
LOL!! TOJ - There’s no record that Honest Abe said what you said he said. In fact, the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency has a whole page devoted to refuting such wrongly attributed quotes.
I find these Republican’s born-again feminism ludicrous. THEY fetished the stay-at-home mom into some kind of paragon of virtue and working mothers as self-centered and neglectful…yet when Democrats demand to know why they aren’t walking the walk, why they don’t expect their candidate to live up to their “happy homemaker” stereo-type, we get charged with “sexism”. (head shaking) cynical and dishonest…
To be generous, maybe it’s only now, when their own words are getting applied to their sweet St. Sarah of the Tundra, do they realize how demeaning and ignorant they sounded in the first place. Maybe.
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
More Double Standard
So now, democrats respect the words of Carl Rove. And you put that in a post about double standards. LOL!!!
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
News Flash
So yet another sideline poster that knows all about me. It’s it about time you go on another 14 day vacation that lasts for 6 days?
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
when prominent Democrats and the press began publicly questioning whether a mother of five — including a special-needs infant — could or should be a good vice president
what a load of bollocks.
we don’t care that she has 5 kids (including noun. verb. Downs Syndrome) - we care that she has had 18 months at the state level and NO national experience!
but, Shaunti, you keep spreading the lies - that’s what you seem to be good at (Microsoft makes how much in revenues, again???)
so, what she’s got 5 kids (and a grandkid on the way - brought to you by Abstinence Only Education … for all your pre-marital, unintended pregnancy needs, ask for Abstinence Only Education by name)
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
TOJ -
So now, democrats respect the words of Carl Rove. And you put that in a post about double standards. LOL!!
first of all, it’s Karl (with a K) Rove
secondly, all we ask for is a little consistency … either a governor with less than a full term under their belt is unqualified or they’re not …
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
So McCain’s lead is crumbling? LOL!!
Rasmussen Tracking 09/09 - 09/11 3000 LV 48 45 McCain +3 Gallup Tracking 09/08 - 09/10 2718 RV 48 44 McCain +4 Hotline/FD Tracking 09/08 - 09/10 902 RV 46 44 McCain +2 FOX News 09/08 - 09/09 900 RV 45 42 McCain +3 NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 09/06 - 09/08 860 RV 45 46 Obama +1 ABC News/Wash Post 09/05 - 09/07 LV 49 47 McCain +2 USA Today/Gallup 09/05 - 09/07 823 LV 54 44 McCain +10 CBS News 09/05 - 09/07 655 RV 46 44 McCain +2 CNN/OpinionResearch 09/05 - 09/07 942 RV 48 48 Tie
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Mara
If you honestly can disagree with every credible media outlet, and you believe that Sarah Palin has been treated fairly, then you need to vote for Obama. You and the two other people that believe that.
By JokesOn
September 12, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
So yet another sideline poster that knows all about me.
What is there to know TOJ? You are cranky morning, noon and night and you are a hypocrite about sums it up.
All it takes is one visit by anyone to realize that. Have a cookie and take a mid-morning nap.
By Rod
September 12, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
I think this campaign has set America back 50 years or so. This is only because one, a black man is finally a frontrunner for the top position in our government, two a female is a vp candidate, and three this country is economically near the bottom. One preaches unity, change, and better economics for all, the other preaches, well nothing at the moment only slander, mudslinging, bickering, and so on. He has yet to promise the American people what he intends to do which further links him to the Bush Administration. I’ve actually rooted for McCain over the years because of his stance against the Republicans on issues, but to use Palin as his vp pick shows he’s desperate and he knows this is his last chance at the top prize.
My only concern is that he would distance himself from bush policies while he’s got some momentum. He won’t do that because of the lobbyist running his campaign. So I am regretably voting for the other guy until he shows me he’s back to the way he was.
One other thing, I feel that Rommey or Huckabey would have been excellent choices for vp. They were both bright and likeable and could have given him the same buzz as Palin. The word now is that a lot of women are offeneded because he is using her as a do flunkey and nothing more. Most of the middle aged white women, (I’m white), I know are totally p** but feel helpless because it hurts the GOP more than it helps.
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
Mara -
sweet St. Sarah of the Tundra,
I hope you realize I’ve trademarked that name … you owe me $25 for licensed use.
I’ll take cash. or money orders. or Pay Pal.
;-)
By Jack of all Trades
September 12, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
I love a fight first thing in the morning! The double standards are clear…. republicans have beat America about the head about Family Values and Family First. What do your nominee do select a VP running mate that’s not walking the walk, but continuing to talk the talk. republicans are all about do as I say, not as I do.
Your folks are lining up on tv grinning and loving palin - “she’s such a strong mother figure” - HA! She’s selfish! I can care less about her daughter feeling bad about mom missing a shot at VP because of her daughters irresponsibilities! Oh that word - RESPONSIBILITIES.
A RESPONSIBLE mother would have said - thanks, but no thanks, I need to take care of my family. A RESPONSIBLE governor would have said - I don’t have the knowledge or experience to assist you at this time. A RESPONSIBLE honorable candidate would have look at the situation and said I shouldn’t PIMP this woman and her family. A RESPONSIBLE party would have told the candidate - we’ll be sending the wrong message after all we are a party with values. There are NO VALUES in the republican party just FINGERPOINTING diaper wetters.
Furthermore, not only did rover put his foot in his horn head mouth, so did o’reilly with his rant on the spears family and suddenly the palins is a private matter? dick “weasal” morris, the fiorina lady and sarah with her attack on Hillary for crying.
By HeeHaw
September 12, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
You sir are an idiot!
Not news to regular blog readers.
and I think it is KARL Rove.
By JokesOn
September 12, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
Shaping up to be the old freak out friday for TOJ.
…get your popcorn and watch the meltdown.
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
TOJ -
thanks for the stats … the majority of the polls you cited put Obama and McCain at a statistical tie when you take into account the MOE.
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
UsinUK
I know of condoms that have broken. So no condom is useful, right? Throw them all away. Right? No more birth control. Didn’t work once. It simply doesn’t work. Right? i think you are on to something.
We don’t care that she has kids or is a woman? Have you been asleep for the last three weeks. To be honest, i doubt that you have seen the attacks over there. And the lies that are presented as facts.
At poker on Wednesday night, I was told that Palin was trying to get laws passed where hunters could hunt Wolves with machine guns from helicopters. So I guess Alaska is succeeding from the union. No civilian can own completely automatic weapons, but a friend with a masters degree in business believed that Palin was able to dictate that Alaskans ignore federal gun laws.
I have never seen anything like this in my life. And the anti-woman attacks are worst than anything I have seen from anybody at any time. If Republicans were attacking a Democratic woman like the democrats are attacking Palin, we wouldn’t live it down for 100 years. Here, on this forum, democrats are already trying to claim that the attacks don’t exist.
By Jack of all Trades
September 12, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Let me take this to a new level of HYPOCRASY:
Email I received the other day says:
If you’re a minority and you’re selected for a job over more qualified candidates you’re a ‘token hire.’
If you're a conservative and you're selected for a job over more qualified candidates you're a 'game changer.' Black teen pregnancies? A 'crisis' in black America. White teen pregnancies? A 'blessed event.' If you grow up in Hawaii you're 'exotic.' Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you're the quintessential 'American story.' Similarly, if you name you kid Barack you're 'unpatriotic.' Name your kid Track, you're 'colorful.' If you're a Democrat and you make a VP pick without fully vetting the individual you're 'reckless.' A Republican who doesn't fully vet is a 'maverick.' If you spend 3 years as a community organizer growing your organization from a staff of 1 to 13 and your budget from $70,000 to $400,000, then become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review,create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new African Amerian voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor,then spend nearly 8 more years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, becoming chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, then spend nearly 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of nearly 13 million people, sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you are woefully inexperienced. If you spend 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, then spend 20 months as the governor of a state with 650,000 people, you've got the most executive experience of anyone on either ticket, are the Commander in Chief of the Alaska military and are well qualified to lead the nation should you be called upon to do so because your state is the closest state to Russia. If you are a Democratic male candidate who is popular with millions of people you are an 'arrogant celebrity'. If you are a popular republican female candidate you are 'energizing the base'. If you are a younger male candidate who thinks for himself and makes his own decisions you are 'presumptuous'. if you are an older male candidate who makes last minute decisions you refuse to explain, you are a 'shoot from the hip' maverick. If you are a candidate with a Harvard law degree you are 'an elitist 'out of touch' with the real America. if you are a legacy (dad and granddad were admirals) graduate of Annapolis, with multiple disciplinary infractions you are a hero. If you manage a multi-million dollar nationwide campaign, you are an 'empty suit'.If you are a part time mayor of a town of 7000 people, you are an 'experienced executive'. If you go to a south side Chicago church, your beliefs are 'extremist'. If you believe in creationism and don't believe global warming is man made, you are 'strongly principled'. If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian. If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years with whom you are raising 2 beautiful daughters you're 'risky'. If you're a black single mother of 4 who waits for 22 hours after her water breaks to seek medical attention, you're an irresponsible parent, endangering the life of your unborn child. But if you're a white married mother who waits 22 hours, you're spunky. If you're a 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton, the right-wing press calls you 'First dog.' If you're a 17-year old pregnant unwed daughter of a Republican, the right-wing press calls you 'beautiful' and 'courageous.' If you kill an endangered species, you're an excellent hunter. If you have an abortion you're not a christian, you're a murderer ( forget about if it happen while being date raped) If you teach abstinence only in sex education, you get teen parents. If you teach responsible age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.By SAG
September 12, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
My oh my, look what happens when someone has the mitigated gall to say something about Apollo Obama the Chosen One. The Democratic meltdown is in full swing. The year the Republicans had to lose is now turning into a full-fledged battle. They ran Hillary in the ground with false claims of racism and now look what they’re staring eye to eye. You Democrats are spineless and scared; you believed the mantra that no one can say anything bad about Apolloe Obama and not be turned to a block of salt. This is beginning to be sooooo funny, the huge Democratic meltdowmn. What’s next, Obama coming on stage and kick boxing a special needs kid to show what a man he really is. Sad.
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Wow. Side line snipers and JokesOn is here, too. Say it ain’t so. And jokesOn is responding to a post to one of the snipers. Never saw that one coming.
By leigh
September 12, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
I think the Republicans are the ones making this a double standard. It is ok for them to attack Hillary since she came on the scene but no one is suppose to attack Palin? The McCain/Palin campaign is too busy projecting their faults onto the Obama/Biden campaign to actually talk about any real issues turning this entire race into a disfunctional personality contest. If Palin is going to be part of this race she opens herself up to questions, background checks and the like. If she can’t take the heat then she needs to excuse herself from this race.
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Rod
Do you understand that the economic downturn started in 2006? You remember 2006, gas was under 2 bucks a gallon and inflation was half of what it is now.
Now what happened to the government in 2006? Can you tell me? Can you make the connection? Last week someone posted a quote from the Congressional Budget office. Does that give you a hint? Can you tell me the branch of the government that makes laws and sets the US budget?
Now the big question here, and this is the hard one, who controls the part of the government that controls the economy. Now think reeeal hard. Remember the hint: the CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE.
Work it over in your head and see if you can figure out what political party has had control of the government since the economic downturn started really turning South.
By Mara
September 12, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
USinUK - hey, I’m working the name like McCain works his campaign music. I’ll use it without permission or fees until you send me a certified cease and desist request. :^)
TOJ - If you honestly can disagree with every credible media outlet, and you believe that Sarah Palin has been treated fairly, then you need to vote for Obama. You and the two other people that believe that
she’s been treated as fairly as one can treat a completely unknown politician who isn’t “allowed” to face an agressive, non-deferential, press. And considering your contempt for the “librul media” I’d be interested in knowing exactly who you mean by “credible media outlet”. Charlie Gibson?! Puh-leeeze. He was boo’ed at the debates for being such a wimpy hack.
and more than my two friends and I think she’s been treated fairly. per a recent ABC poll - “Americans are divided about whether the media, which have focused early coverage on personal matters, have treated Palin fairly or unfairly. Half called the coverage fair, while 41 percent said it has been slanted. Most Republicans said it has been biased; two-thirds of Democrats disagree. Among those who fault the coverage, more see political bias, not sexism, as the root cause.
By Atlantajan
September 12, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin made Wasilla one of the few — if not the only — Alaska towns to charge women who had been raped hundreds of dollars for the rape kit necessary to prosecute their assailants. Sarah Palin talks about her daughter’s “choice,” but would deny that choice to every other woman — including victims of rape. Sarah Palin shoots wolves from helicopters and thinks polar bears will evolve into land mammals if their ice goes away. Sarah Palin attempted to fire a librarian for saying she would not take certain books out of the library. Sarah Palin did fire a law enforcement officer because he refused to fire an underling involved in a messy divorce from her sister.
Does anyone really think that John McCain looked high and low and decided that Sarah Palin, who thinks Iraq was responsible for 9/11 and has no clue about the Bush Doctrine that has led to our involvement in Iraq, was honestly the most qualified person to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?
Do right-wingers think women are stupid? You’ve gotta share more than reproductive organs with the vast majority of us if you want our support.
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
TOJ -
I know of condoms that have broken. So no condom is useful, right? Throw them all away. Right? No more birth control. Didn’t work once. It simply doesn’t work. Right? i think you are on to something.
so, I see you’ve been reading the Abstinence Only propaganda … oops, I mean “curriculum”
because you realize that’s exactly what they say. that condoms do nothing to protect you against STDs. that birth control is ineffective. (so, is it any wonder why teens are saying “why bother, then”)
but, given that St. Sarah of the Tundra (TM) advocates AO, do you really think she’s telling her kiddies at home “but, if you do, wrap that rascle”??? no. she’s telling them to wait until marriage, just like she did …
… oh, waitaminnit. she had to get married, didn’t she …
yet another example of “do as I say, not as I do”
By JokesOn
September 12, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Wow. Side line snipers and JokesOn is here, too. Say it ain’t so. And jokesOn is responding to a post to one of the snipers. Never saw that one coming.
Insane that you think I am sniping you. I have already proven numerous times that I confront you under my own name.
Spin, spin, spin…
Writing any binary code lately?lol
By The Honorable GOP
September 12, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
“If Republicans were attacking a Democratic woman like the democrats are attacking Palin…”
That. Would. Never. Happen.
Republicans are just too honorable! We respect women! We would never disprespect a woman by gossiping about what kind of wife she is, berate her for leaving her husband’s side to pursue her own causes (or for NOT leaving him if we don’t like him), or for being super smart and well-educated, or for making a couple of bucks on a good investment, or for being tougher than most women, or for being human enough to have tears in her eyes, or for wearing pantsuits, or for the size of her thighs or the sound of her voice.
We. Respect. Women. And. They. Don’t.
By John
September 12, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
Andrea provides the intelligent thinker yet another reason to call B.S. on the left’s argument. The fact is this scenario was supposed to happen, just not on the republican ticket. If Palin was a democrat and Obama chose her, the media would be falling all over themselves and lavishing praise and adoration upon her. She would be hailed as the perfect example of how a “career” women with kids not only can take on the VP job, but is qualified as well. However, because Palin happens to be on the wrong side of the political spectrum and is electrifying women across the nation, she is the target of typical leftist elitism.
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
USinUK
thanks for the stats … the majority of the polls you cited put Obama and McCain at a statistical tie when you take into account the MOE.
That is a straw you can cling to. The facts say that before the conventions, McCain wasn’t even close, but now is leading in every poll but two and he ties in one of those. My post was in response to a post that said that McCain’s lead is crumbling, while it is widening.
Time will tell, but I don’t see any reason why the polls would change. Obama hasn’t been in an offensive position for weeks. I am as surprised as everyone, but I can see why it is happening. And this garbage about only McCain going negative is total BS. This morning Obama released another attack ad, not about issues, not about anything that means a damn thing.
It’s going to take a big boom, like what Palin did for the McCain campaign. Made up stories about killing wolves with machine guns ain’t doin’ it.
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Leigh -
It is ok for them to attack Hillary since she came on the scene but no one is suppose to attack Palin?
you hit the nail on the head.
remember the “I could have stayed home and made cookies” comment Hillary made waaaaaaaaaaay back when? she was raked over the coals for that!
now … imagine that she had given birth to a DS child then reported to the Rose Law Firm 3 days later … my god, Rush would have thought that he had his birthday and christmas all in the same go - he would have excoriated her for YEARS on that tidbit, alone.
now … imagine if Chelsea turned up pregnant during Bill’s second term - good lord, the right would have had a heyday about how they have no “family values” …
and they have the utter gall to tell US that we’re being too hard on Palin for looking into her work history? for looking at her (ahem) “education” (using the term very loosely)? for looking at the churches she goes to - which, given how important she says her faith is to her, should be nothing to be ashamed of, right?
but, noooooo … we on the left are “mean-spirited”
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
Mara -
I’m working the name like McCain works his campaign music. I’ll use it without permission or fees until you send me a certified cease and desist request.
hahaha … fine … you may use it … as long as you continue to use it for the powers of good and not evil! :-)
(on a side note about the music … every other Presidential candidate has honored a musician’s request when they have asked them not to play a particular song … I find it very telling about McCain’s “character” that he ignores other people’s wishes)
By Gale
September 12, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
“Palin was a democrat” she would have to be spouting a whole different line. Maybe Hillary should pull a Lieberman and switch parties?
By Jack of all Trades
September 12, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
Obviously I’m a Democrat so I’m going to say what needs to be said….Senator Obama didn’t select Senator Hillary Clinton because she has BAGGAGE!!!! The republicans would fall all over themselves bring up every little controversy she was involved in therefore, the campaign would have never gotten off the ground.
Unfortunately, we know republican baggage is different from Democratic baggage. John McCain divorced his wife for a younger woman he was having an affair with. Why haven’t we heard that? He’s covered up his wife’s drug addiction by firing the one guy who knew about it and threaten him. He’s stopped investigations into POW/MIA reports in Vietnam and Korea! Honorable man that he is can only talk about being a POW and war hero. That DOES NOT give him the RIGHT to be POTUS!!!
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
jokesOn
You have only proven what a pathetic liar you are. Give it up. When you are here, there are dozens of spineless sideliners, all agreeing with every position you take and attacking the same people that you attack. When you are not here, THERE ARE NONE.
Can you explain that fact? (This should be good)
By Atlantajan
September 12, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
Question: If Palin had been a Democrat, and Obama had chosen her, exactly how do you think the right would have reacted to her pregnant daughter and her running for president with a four-month-old? Think we might have heard, “Well, great for the Democrats! They’ve put someone who is just like us on the ticket!
What do you think would have been the response if Obama had had a pregnant 17-year-old daughter on the stage at the convention with him? Think we would have heard about how great Democrats’ family values were?
You Republicans are refining the word “hypocrite” to an amazing degree.
By Newzwyre
September 12, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
“The American Conservative” magazine says Palin’s a liar.
“Reihan (Reihan Salam, conservative journalist and GOP apologist - ed.) asks: “So will we stop hearing that Palin “lied” about the Bridge to Nowhere? I’m guessing we won’t.”
“Well, Reihan, we will keep hearing about it because she has been lying…During her first speech after being named as McCain’s surprise pick as a running mate, Palin said she had told Congress “‘thanks but no thanks’ on that bridge to nowhere.”
“The relevant facts concerning Palin and her false “Bridge to Nowhere” claim are these. As a gubernatorial candidate in 2006, she supported the project and objected to the derisive name that she now uses to score points.”
“By McCain’s own standard, Palin’s eventual opposition to the bridge project is beside the point–it is federal pork as such that he finds offensive and which he now claims Palin has combated as part of his effort to make Palin into a credible reformer of Washington.”
“It is hardly inspiring that she has to make false statements in order to make this central claim, and it is deeply troubling that the “reform” ticket is daily making claims about Palin’s record that only the most generous partisan could accept as honest.”
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
USinUk
I find it very telling about McCain’s “character” that he ignores other people’s wishes)
I find it very interesting that Federal Copyright laws would fine the crap out of McCain for using a copyrighted song if he didn’t have permission to use it. A single letter of demand would stop the use of that song, but apparently that hasn’t happened. Could it be that the royalties are just too much to stop them from using the song? And artist putting money over principle? A LIBERAL ARTIST? Say it ain”t so.
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
TOJ -
McCain wasn’t even close, but now is leading in every poll but two and he ties in one of those
man. you don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story, do you.
prior to the conventions, McCain and Obama were a dead heat until the Dem convention (the biggest gap was 8%, right after the Dem convention and just as the GOP convention was starting) then, they flipped immediately after the GOP convention
http://www. gallup. com/poll/110227/Gallup-Daily-McCain-48-Obama-44.aspx
but, you just keep living in your fact-deprived dreamworld if it makes you feel better
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
Atlantajan
What do you think would have been the response if Obama had had a pregnant 17-year-old daughter on the stage at the convention with him? Think we would have heard about how great Democrats’ family values were?
I guess you slept through the first day that Pelosi took over Congress and she brought her entire brood to the house floor.
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
Jack of all Trades
He’s covered up his wife’s drug addiction by firing the one guy who knew about it and threaten him.
Are you that one guy? LOL!! Please point to the source on this one.
Is there anything that you guys won’t swallow? You complain about conservatives watching FOX News and then you quote idiot liberal attack web sites like they were the gospels. And you wonder why you are losing.
By Bravo
September 12, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Bravo to Jack of all Trades, Bravo.
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
TOJ -
I find it very interesting that Federal Copyright laws would fine the crap out of McCain for using a copyrighted song if he didn’t have permission to use it. A single letter of demand would stop the use of that song, but apparently that hasn’t happened. Could it be that the royalties are just too much to stop them from using the song? And artist putting money over principle? A LIBERAL ARTIST?
again, you don’t let the facts get in your way, do you?
McCain may legally use whatever song he wants as long as he pays the appropriate licensing fee. The artist has say over commercial use (political rallies are not considered commercial)
McCain had no problem not using John Mellencamp songs after he was asked (back in Feb) but has no respect for Heart’s request.
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
USinUK
Don’t get ugly. And then look at the polls from early August, when Obama finally got rid of Hillary. Look at the polls at the conventions and now look at the polls.
The FACT is that he has been losing ground and continues to lose ground.
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
TOJ -
I suggest you read this:
http://www. washingtonpost. com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/11/AR2008091103928_pf.html
Cindy stole drugs from her non-profit.
She tried to have the guy fired for blowing the whistle.
it isn’t pretty.
By JokesOn
September 12, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
When you are not here, THERE ARE NONE.
You are a liar. That is how it is explained. There have been days on end (and a couple times a week+) that I only lurked, or was gone completely, and saw the snipers come out to get you.
When you show up everyone splits BUT the sideliners (or maybe most everyone becomes one because they know talking with you directly is useless).
How many name changes have you gone through now? All because you are embarrassed about your previous weeks behavior. Remember all the “waaaaambulane” comments from everyone on here? (of course not - your are impeccable at relying on denial)
Here is 50 cents; buy a clue.
By Gale
September 12, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Why would McCain respect Heart’s request? They are women.
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
USinUK
Since 1993 (I think that is the right year), any broadcast use REQUIRES permission from the copyright holder. It is not even permissible to pay blankets to ASCAP and/or BMI. I know this because this ruined my life. I loved to use popular songs when i worked at TV stations. They would pay a blanket and I could use anything that was claimed by whatever blanket we had bought. Not any more. Each use has to be negotiated. I now compose most of my music or use needle drops from several companies.
I don’t know if Mellencamp still own those rights or not, I don’t know if Heart still own their own copyright. If they do own it, they can stop McCain. Election campaigns do not cancel copyrights. The only thing it does is require that TV stations give non-premium ad rates.
if they sold those rights, then tough sh*t. That was their choice.
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
TOJ -
And then look at the polls from early August, when Obama finally got rid of Hillary. Look at the polls at the conventions and now look at the polls
good grief, TOJ -
http://www. gallup. com/poll/election2008.aspx
please. you’re embarrassing yourself. other than a couple of blips, they have been neck and neck - there has never been a wider gap than about 8 points - which, considering 5% are usually undecided, that makes it a statistical dead heat.
please. do yourself a favor and look things up before you go slinging the merde del toro (a subtle blend of french and spanish on that one) - not that I don’t mind correcting you, but I imagine it has to get a bit demoralizing after the 5th, 6th, 10th time …
By Lynne
September 12, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
LMAO…Sarah Palin hasn’t done anything but bring in the evangelical base that McCain couldn’t….and that’s it. Not independents, not moderate Republicans, and Lord knows, not women that supported Hillary Clinton. Please. Sarah “what does the VP do?” Palin is just a gimmick that hasn’t affected the Obama campaign’s ground game one bit. You people are still looking at polls that don’t reflect the 3.5 million new voters or the millions of voters without landline phones. I’m amazed that the polls are even close at all considering who actually is responding to them.
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this
Gale -
Why would McCain respect Heart’s request? They are women.
ZACKLY!!!
John Mellencamp’s request: no problem
Heart’s: absolutely not.
what a wanker.
By ELLE
September 12, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
It was sexism when the Republicans put unqualifed Palin on the ticket (loved the deer in the headlights look when Charlie Gibson asked about the Bush doctrine). Thinking women are dim witted enough to vote for a woman who does not fight for our rights. If it were not for Democrats women would give birth and go directly to work from the hospital. Sexism is when Hillary CLinton does not get all the bruhaha because she is not at pretty.
Now lets get to important issues like paying 3 times more for gas since this administration got into office, paying more for food, health care, etc. Lets talk about that…..that crosses all boundaries
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
JokesON
So you didn’t go on that 14 day vacation to Cancun. You were lurking? I thought you said you were fishing. Is there anything that you have ever said that we should actually believe?
I’ve gone through one name change and use both names however I want. Everyone knows it is me. I’m not a coward like you. But please, do keep bringing it up. You seem to be trying to rationalize your use of multiple nicks, something that you continue to lie about.
Now, is there anything you would like to say about my stated position on the issue or will you continue to act like the slobbering idiot that you are?
By Grounded
September 12, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin hasn’t done anything but bring in the evangelical base
unfortunately they are the same people who came out to vote en masse in 2000 for their very own (he’s so special, he’s a Christian) Chosen Own. and look where THAT put us.
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
TOJ -
I don’t know if Mellencamp still own those rights or not, I don’t know if Heart still own their own copyright. If they do own it, they can stop McCain.
again, since political events are not considered commercial, McCain only has to pay the smaller licensing fee and the artist doesn’t have a say over it. (if he wanted to use Barracuda in a commercial, they could refuse).
Under the law, candidates can use any song they want as background music so long as they pay the necessary licensing fees.
The legal waters are murkier when a song becomes an integral part of a stage production, like the use of “Barracuda” to introduce Palin at the RNC, one legal expert said. Express permission is required for ads.
http://www. nydailynews. com/news/politics/2008/09/05/2008-09-05useofbarracudaforsarahpalinnetsgo.html
By JokesOn
September 12, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
So you didn’t go on that 14 day vacation to Cancun. You were lurking?* Way to mix apples and oranges. I had to come back because of a sick relative. If you were honest, you would see that I did not post except for the couple times I had internet connect. More lies from TOJ.
(I notice how you ignore that I said “many times I was lurking or not even here”)
Now, is there anything you would like to say about my stated position on the issue or will you continue to act like the slobbering idiot that you are?
Who started this line again? Liar.
Who also runs POed each time I prove you are just spouting bs? Like you saying you can name hundreds of founding fathers that believe in creationism. There were not even 50 of them.
By Gale
September 12, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
ZACKLY!!! ::chuckle:: one of my favorite words.
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
JokesOn -
Like you saying you can name hundreds of founding fathers that believe in creationism. There were not even 50 of them
true. but you’re forgetting the “Franklin Factor” and the “Madison Multiple”, which makes each Founding Father count for 4.5 regular people. So, if you multiply 49 by 4.5, you get 220.5, thus creating “hundreds” of founding fathers.
cheers!
By Smoove B. McCrusty
September 12, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
Hey baby…. Barry White music plays low in the background. come here often? Shhh…. don’t tell me. I can see from the look on your pretty face you’re hurting. Did somebody treat you wrong, baby? You can talk to me. I respect women… See? I picked one as my running mate. No, she don’t have the same qualifications as your girl who didn’t get it. She’s a good girl… Fertile and dedicated to bearing fruit. Mmmmm..mmmmm…mmmmmm.. Feminine women are the ones that count. It’s not just what’s between your legs that matters, baby. That pretty face and your sweet submission mean so much too. Now dry your tears, baby, slide on over here, and give your vote to ol’ McCrusty….. kissy noises uhhhuhhhhhuhhhhhhhh…
By Mara
September 12, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
artists/groups that have asked McCain to cease and desist using their music -
Jackson Browne - Running on Empty Van Halen - Right Now John Mellencamp - Pink Houses and Our Country ABBA - Take a Chance on Me John Hall/Orleans - Still the One Franki Valli and the Four Seasons - Can’t Take My Eyes Off of You Heart - Barracuda
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
USinUk
According to YOUR website, there has been an 8 point swing. Considering how close the last several elections have been, that is huge. You can continue to say nasty things about me, but the polls say that Obama has been in a steady decline. Can you dispute that?
By Earl
September 12, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
If you sluts didn’t have so much unprotected sex while you’re drunk with strangers you wouldn’t need abortions as birth control.
By That's what I am talkin about
September 12, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
TOJ
Turns out that there is nothing that Cindy McCain won’t swallow! Be it Vicodin, Percocet, etc. Have to admit that I would have to take some type of drug to sleep with John myself though…….might need it when I wake up and see him too!
Guess we’ll see what transpires in November.
Since each person only gets one vote, you might want to try decaf…..you seem a little bit left of center today. LOL
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
TOJ -
You can continue to say nasty things about me, but the polls say that Obama has been in a steady decline. Can you dispute that?
yes. easily. in fact, Gallup did it for me. even if you look at the trend lines, they don’t show Obama in a decline
seriously, TOJ, you’re on a roll today, and it isn’t a good one. wrong about the songs. wrong about the current polls. wrong about earlier polls. even misspelled Karl Rove.
it’s not been a good day for your - do you need a hug?
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
JokesON
LOL!!! You do have the perfect name. A sick relative. That’s priceless.
On the day that you claimed to be fishing, I checked the weather report for Cancun. They were getting the leeward side of a hurricane. it was storming like crazy in Cancun. But you claimed to be deep sea fishing. i can hear the boat Captain now: “It’s nothing but a cat 3 hurricane. I’ll be glad to risk my boat and my life so you can fish”.
it isn’t so bad that you are a habitual liar, but you are a lazy liar. You can be dis-proven so easily.
Look. I’ve tried to resolve this with you like a man, but that would take two men and I can’t do it myself. There is no one here that believes that you aren’t posting under other names. So just keep blathering. You are the joke of the forum, but you just aren’t funny, you are pathetic
I came back after being gone last week and the entire blog was nothing but you having yet another name calling, childish spat with yet another conservative poster. It’s the case every week. You have had fellow liberals begging you to grow up. but apprently, the only way to deal with you is treating you like the retarded child that you are: and that is ignoring you.
I feel guilty because you are such an easy target. It’s like picking on the retarded kid. And now you are trying to cover up yet another lie by saying you had a sick relative. It’s sad. But you will need to find someone else to fight with. I just feel bad, because you are so incredibly dumb.
By USinUK
September 12, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
Mara -
Franki Valli and the Four Seasons - Can’t Take My Eyes Off of You
man. what kind of sad do you have to be for Franki Valli to say “you know, we really don’t need this kind of publicity”
not to mention … I mean, this was a friend’s first dance with his wife at their wedding … but at a political rally??? “I love you baaaaaaby and if it’s quite all right I need you baaaaaaaby to warm the lonely nights I love you baaaaaaaby, trust in me when I say Oh pretty baaaaaaby, don’t bring me down I pray Oh pretty baaaaaaby, now that I’ve found you stay And let me love you baby, let me love you”
okay, now I think I’ve just grossed myself out. ew. ew. ew.
then again, I also thought Captain Jack was a weird song for Hillary to play at her rallies … (a song about a heroin dealer??? ah. not so appropriate).
By ?uestion
September 12, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
I’m interested to know if you took and replaced every instance of the claim of ‘sexism’ in the entire campaign from primary to today with that of ‘racism’ how would that make many of you feel?
Would you think it to be legitimate? Do you think there is a certain comfort level with the former but no so much with the latter?
Is one legitimate and not the other?
By Mara
September 12, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
it’s not been a good day for your - do you need a hug?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Good’un!
just as a by the by…in 2004 an anonymous complaint was submitted to the Alaska Voting Board accusing the then-Mayor Sarah Palin of using her mayoral office and resources to campaign for Lt. Governor. The Board chose not to investigate because the letter was sent anonymously.
By Mara
September 12, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
USinUK - okay, now I think I’ve just grossed myself out. ew. ew. ew.
eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww!!! Now I’ll never be able to hear that song without seeing that picture in my head. EWWWWWW! :^D
By Archie
September 12, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
No the democrats do not have a double standard about Sarah Palin’s family choices. John Edwards and his wife were questioned about his decision to run in light his wife’s health situation. The reason men aren’t asked certain questions is because 95 percent of the women I know don’t believe men do as much with their children as the mother does. I think we deserve a little more credit but men don’t need too much recognition. I do think Hillary was subjected to double standards but Mrs Palin is getting off lightly right now, because she does look good. Once her obvious attractiveness wears off I think the press will pound on her as they would a male candidate. Women already look at her more objectively than men and that says we,men still have a ways to go as far as viewing women beyond their appearance.
By Bruno
September 12, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
we on the left are “mean-spirited”
Well, USinUK, I’m glad you finally admitted it! ; > }
On a serious note, the amount of hypocrisy which emanates from both the left and the right appears to be about equal in my book. Do you see that, or are you so blinded by your own personal political agenda that you TRULY believe that left-wingers are more fair, more intelligent, more educated, etc.?
Thinking women are dim witted enough to vote for a woman who does not fight for our rights.
I think the hardest thing for “thinking” women (read:liberal) to swallow about Sarah Palin is the fact that a substantial percentage of moms in America identify strongly with her. They share her values and admire her strength. I would think some of you lefties would recognize that, being the highly intelligent and educated people that you are.
By Newzwyre
September 12, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
speaking of images you can’t get out of your head, watch out for spam-mail —
“Cyber crooks are trying to cash in on fascination with the US presidential race by sending trick email promising a sex video starring candidate Barack Obama, according to Sophos computer security firm.”
“Email recipients gullible enough to click on an enclosed link get to see a seemingly homemade sex video that doesn’t feature the presidential contender but does secretly install malicious software on people’s computers.”
“This email has been spammed out widely across the Internet, claiming that US senator Barack Obama has been in a sex video while he was in the Ukraine and all you have to do is click on the link to view the movie,” Sophos technology consultant Graham Cluley said in a video posted on the firm’s website.
“If you were to click on that link … spyware is installed on your computer which steals your passwords and your banking information and sends it to cyber criminals.”
By Sarah Can Be VP
September 12, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
I thought it was the democrats that’s suppose to be the tollerant party? What happened? You can’t accept a normal, working mom of five kids, one with special needs, yet you can accept a man who’s entire past is sketchy and had to be hidden by each news agency, excluding Fox News, in order to keep people from finding out truths about him that would make most people very uncomfortable. Democrats are now so far left, so Hollywood, so out of touch with the common person, they look at a woman who is a mom and a wife to an average guy as being unfit. Your mothers would be ashamed of you all.
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
USinUK
I’m a musician and a film maker and I have written a published book about using small video cameras. I actually get small checks for copyrights that i own. I am corresponding TODAY with a traditional music band about using their music in the Haunted Inn piece. I have been on the phone with BMI all frickin’ day. I am doing everything I can to keep from making another trip to the fifth floor at Tower place to the BMI offices to try to make this deal work. But the band is out of BMI-Nashville so it is even more complicated. I am trying not to call the frickin’ copyright attorney YET again about this mess because any call is a couple of hundred bucks. She is not on a retainer. But you obviously know much more about copyrights than I do.
I am currently fighting a woman about using pictures that she claims to own copyright that are 120 years old. I have been involved in 14 different continuing series, resulting in hundreds of TV shows, each one needing full disclosure on all of the music, videography, cinematography, 2D graphics and 3D animations before the networks will even consider running them. .
But since you work in stocks you obviously know more about it than I do. So I agree with you. To hell with McCain. Somebody get a rope.
By Bruno
September 12, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
then again, I also thought Captain Jack was a weird song for Hillary to play at her rallies
Personally, I thought Hillary made that choice based on the line “And you sit at home and masturbate”. ; > }
From a political standpoint, I actually think that both McCain AND Obama are benefiting from all the media attention on Palin so close to the election: McCain benefits because it diverts attention away from the fact that he is old, tired, and a long-time Washington insider with ties to lobbyists miles long. Obama benefits because it diverts attention away from the fact that he is too inexperienced to be Prez and has ties to ultra-left wing nut cases miles long.
Bottom line for me: It’s all about taxes and spending. Obama openly calls for higher taxes and more spending. McCain at least gives lip service to less taxes and lower spending. Do I beleive McCain? Not really, but he appears to be the lesser of the two evils.
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
?uestion
I’m interested to know if you took and replaced every instance of the claim of ‘sexism’ in the entire campaign from primary to today with that of ‘racism’ how would that make many of you feel?
Did you sleep through the Clinton Obama months? That was the daily charge by the Obama campaign every time Clinton landed a good jab. And now, some idiots are saying that the term “Community Organizer” means Black. Claims of racism are alive and well. Actual racism … not so much.
By The Other Jack
September 12, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this
Bruno
I was reading a great book on snappy political comebacks. I can’t ever remember names, but some old guy was running and a younger guy was attacking him because of his age.
The old guy’s comeback was great:
A 30 year old as* is much older than a 70 year old man.
i think it is all about Congress. They have introduced a bill to allow off-shore drilling. Any bets as to when that bill passes? Any bets that it won’t pass before the elections? Any bets that say that if Obama wins that it won’t just disappear. They know that they are the biggest reason that folks are running away from Obama. They are about to become a conservative congress, that is until after the election.
By Mara
September 12, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
Bruno - Obama openly calls for higher taxes and more spending
google key words “Obama tax cut calculator” the first link should be “ObamaTaxCut.com”. All data is from the non-partisan Tax Policy Center. Find out if YOUR taxes will actually be raised or lowered.
with Obama’s plan, (if he can get it passed) my HoneyBunny and I should save almost $1000 per year in taxes.
By Bruno
September 12, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
but some old guy was running and a younger guy was attacking him because of his age.
Don’t forget the Gipper’s line: “I refuse to make my opponent’s youth and inexperience an issue in this campaign.”! Even Walter Mondale laughed at that one during his debate with Ronald Reagan in 1984.
So let’s all sing: “Captain Jack will get you high tonight!!”
BTW, my favorite Billy Joel song might be “Traveling Prayer”:
Hey Lord, would you look out for her tonight
And make sure all her dreams are sweet
Hey Lord, would ya guide her along the roads
And make them softer for her feet
Hey Lord, would ya look out for her tonight
And make sure that she’s gonna be alright
Until she’s home in here with me
By Mara
September 12, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
“A 30 year old as* is much older than a 70 year old man.”
I don’t get it. It doesn’t even make sense. Is it one of those culture-specific jokes, where you need to understand the subtexts of the associated culture to be able to see the humor?
By JokesOn
September 12, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
On the day that you claimed to be fishing, I checked the weather report for Cancun.
More lies and purposely misstating what was said.
Was not in Cancun proper, as I stated, and the weather was great. I even quoted weather dot com that it was not in the high 90s as you first claimed. Now, you want to claim that I was in a hurricane.
i am sure you feel guilt and simply project it somewhere other than its origin as usual.
Still, as I was posting earlier and you got personal again (and lied that I was doing this rant crap); your wonderful Palin was a deer in headlights on one question and did not address a few others since she had no teleprompter pulling her strings for her. Facts are facts - for those of us not in denial.
By Bruno
September 12, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
And for all the women who have been so kind to love me:
Hey Lord, won’t you look out for her tonight
‘Cause it gets rough along the way
Said Lord, if this song sounds strange
It’s just because I don’t know how to pray
So won’t you give her peace of mind
And if you ever find the time
Won’t you tell her I miss her ev’ry day
By Bruno
September 12, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
with Obama’s plan, (if he can get it passed) my HoneyBunny and I should save almost $1000 per year in taxes.
Don’t beleve it, Mara. Plus, if you own any stocks or property, the doubling of the capital gains taxes will be substantial. Unfortunately, I can’t unload my rental property right now due to the weak market, so will have to take a beating when