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What factors, beyond having sex, contribute to teen pregnancy like that of Jamie Lynn Spears?
Shaunti Feldhahn, a right-leaning columnist, writes the commentary this week and Andrea Cornell Sarvady, a left-leaning columnist, responds.
Commentary
As adults dissect Presidential primaries, teens are still chattering about Jamie Lynn Spears’ pregnancy. And I’ve been saddened by their most common reaction: “Why didn’t her mom or anyone talk to her about birth control?”
Not, “She just shouldn’t have had sex.” Not, “Wow, birth control really isn’t foolproof.” Instead, their initial reaction speaks volumes about why the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy says that 1 of every 13 teen girls gets pregnant each year.
We say we’re disturbed by teen sex, but our culture tacitly condones it (“Practice putting the condom on the banana”). We’re horrified that Jamie Lynn’s mother reportedly allowed her to live with her boyfriend, but many parents are just as lax if they allow a teen couple to be home alone after school. The ultimate choice rests with each teenager, but cultural and parental standards have made underage sex (and pregnancies) much more likely.
I find it hard to believe that teens like Jamie Lynn don’t know about or use birth control - but its only foolproof if you avoid sex altogether. According to the FDA, 11 out of 100 women using condoms will get pregnant each year. If Spears used condoms, she’s got company.
Some people will blame the Spears’ stated Christian beliefs, but research shows that teens active in a church community are more likely to delay sex. As conservative commentator Michael Gerson argued in the Washington Post in July 2007, “Responsible behavior requires both ‘norms’ and ‘networks.’ An intellectual belief in right and wrong is not sufficient. Teens require a community that supports their good choices, especially in times of testing and personal crisis.”
A strong community and parent can often overcome the cultural messages, but like all too many parents, Lynn Spears didn’t seem to take that route. Not only is it dangerous to be your kid’s friend instead of their parent, I was stunned in my own research to learn that it isn’t even what kids want. In a national survey for For Parents Only, my last book, three of four teenagers secretly wanted their parents to set and enforce real rules, instead of letting them do whatever they want. Now that the consequences have hit home, I’m guessing Jamie Lynn would be in that category.
Rebuttal
Once more we visit Jamie Lynn Spears and the scandal that rocked the cradle. That’s all the teen pregnancy “movement” needed, a telegenic front person. But before J-L’s baby shower spread comes out in OK! magazine let’s work on a reality-based pregnancy prevention campaign, shall we?
First of all, the condom failure rate is still miniscule compared to the number of teens who report ignoring birth control completely. So the real culprit behind teen pregnancy, right after sex itself, remains an immature denial of consequences.
I recently spoke to sociologist Mark Regnerus, author of “Forbidden Fruit: Sex & Religion in the Lives of American Teenagers,” who shared some eye-opening findings. A clear fan of faith-based communities, Regnerus finds evidence of sexual delays for truly religious teens. Nonetheless, he concedes that kids merely raised in the Evangelical faith without their own rock-solid beliefs are “uniquely subject to a lot of mixed messages.” Told to “delay sex until marriage and often not much else,” they actually have an earlier loss of virginity than many other groups. In addition, these teens typically have sex several times before finally owning up to their behavior and seeking out birth control.
Sounds to me like a bigger problem than faulty condoms.
I agree that parents need to set and enforce rules of expected behavior. Yet when more than half of all teens leave their virginity behind by graduation we have a complex issue, in need of complex thinking. So let’s not equate giving kids information on sexual responsibility with buying them a room at the No Tell Motel.
“Don’t drink and drive” is an absolutist message, yet we typically attach it to a no-questions-asked emergency pick-up, realizing the consequences of denial are far too severe.
Similarly, encouraging young people to protect themselves from pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease isn’t lax parenting. It’s merely recognizing that children turn into adults in the blink of an eye, often when we’re not looking.
It’s normal to think our own innocent lambs are light years away from needing information on birth control. Normal, yet naive — and what parent wants a teen pregnancy to prove them wrong?
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By RF
January 6, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Good heavens, didn’t we beat this topic to death already? Simply put, teach your children to be abstinent, but realize they might not be and make sure they are aware of birth control and the consequences of not using it. I grew up with the idea to wait along with a healthy dose of sex education that scared me into thinking before I acted— I still remember the pictures. I planned to wait but didn’t make it to the altar a virgin, and I was sho ‘nuf scared of the possible consequences. I made sure to use protection, thank goodness.
I’m teaching my two to wait, but I intend to make sure they have ALL the information they need so that if temptation takes over, they’ll be prepared. Teenagers have a tendency to do exactly what we tell them NOT to do, so I plan to make sure mine have the facts—birth control and protection included.
Nothing is foolproof except for abstinence. But when have teenagers ever been completely abstinent?? Never if we think about it. Of course, the numbers were never researched or reported until recent decades. There was also a greater deal of public shame for teenage pregnancy—when did that change?
When kids have time on their hands, they get into trouble. Parents, even working ones, can keep them occupied and keep a close watch on their actions. Mine won’t have a car or be allowed to run around as they choose after school. They’ll be supervised as much as possible, but I know good and well they’ll find time to get into things I’d rather they not do. I’m realistic enough to realize that no matter what we do or how much we stress abstinence, many will give in to very natural urges. I just plan to make sure mine know as much as possible and keep themselves protected if it happens.
By Atlanta Grandpa
January 6, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this
How about a lack of self control?
By Jack
January 7, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Great subject this week ladies. See ya later.
By The Other Jack
January 7, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
This was a weak subject last week.
Tenn pregnancies happen because teens have sex. They have sex because they can.
Leave it to a liberal rag like the AJC to be so lazy as to pull this crap.
By Archie
January 7, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
First of all, the condom failure rate is still miniscule compared to the number of teens who report ignoring birth control completely. So the real culprit behind teen pregnancy, right after sex itself, remains an immature denial of consequences Those statements made by Andrea are true and they answer the topic question. I think if a person puts the condom on properly and takes the pill properly or better yet abstains from sex the chances of a teen getting pregnant are very slim. I agree that parents need to set and enforce rules of expected behavior. I agree with this statement too. Andrea says teen sex is a complex issue in need of complex thinking well I said that last week. My exact words were “sex is not a plaything”. I also said to teenagers they should get all the information about sex that they can get. Andrea’s response this week is much better than her commentary last week and like I said last week this is not a partisan topic but one of practical vs impractical.
By lozen
January 7, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Yes, we did beat it to death last week; it was boring then and it’s more boring now. Who chooses the topics here? Whoever you are, are you trying to bore us to death?
RF, did you watch the debate the other night? Who are you interested in for our next prez?
By Mara
January 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Dead horse, DEAD HORSE!!!!!!
This is what the Shaunti, Andrea, and the AJC editors think of as “women’s” topics?! Jeez…
By D'OH!
January 7, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
What factors, beyond having sex, contribute to teen pregnancy like that of Jamie Lynn Spears?
You mean, besides sex, what causes pregnancy? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Yes, by all means, discuss. HAHAHA!
By Jack
January 7, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
Maybe we should compare biscuit recipes or have a sock darning contest.
By lozen
January 7, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
Tenn pregnancies happen because teens have sex. They have sex because they can. Leave it to a liberal rag like the AJC to be so lazy as to pull this crap. It has nothing to do with liberal. It has to do with “stupid.” There are stupid liberals and there are stupid conservatives. Jeez. But please continue your black and white catergorizations and don’t trouble yourself with complexity!
By lozen
January 7, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Hey Jack! Are you going to give us the recipe for your stew this week? Please! Anything but this dead horse topic. Hey Mara! Glad to hear from you!
By Chilao
January 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Have California authorities arrested Jamie Lynn Spears’ BabyDaddy yet?
Biscuit recipes? I’ll pass. Anyone got a good cornbread recipe though? LOL I am using one I got off the side of some Martha’s Self-Rising Cornbread sack, and while it is really good, does it really need 1/2 cup of sugar? I want some less sweet to go with pinto beans. This cornbread is better with butter and honey.
I read something recently that most teenagers are having sex, in some form. My niece recently saw Into the Wild and all she has been able to talk about is seeing the guy’s p-e-n-i-s. (per her Mother, I don’t engage in those kinds of convos with ANY kids). But I was surprised, she has been hunky/dorry with a steady boyfriend for a couple of years, she is almost 16. I would have thought she already knew what one looked like.
By Chilao
January 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
nice lament last week, Lozen
and ain’t that the truth.
By Britney
January 7, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
What factors, beyond having sex, contribute to teen pregnancy like that of Jamie Lynn Spears?
That cute little rear end on the boy that knocked her up..woo..lord…isn’t he a hottie?…I’d give it away for that cutie..
By Jack
January 7, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
yeah. Shouldn’t he serve a-la Genaro Wilson? (forgive the spelling)
By lozen
January 7, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
Hey Chilao! It’s good to hear from you after all this time! I miss ya. Never put sugar in cornbread! Leave it to a conservative company like (fill in company name) to be so crazy as to pull this crap on a cornmeal package! My cornbread recipe is this: pour cornmeal in a bowl, stir in milk until it’s the right consistency, put in an egg and beat it up. While you’re doing this you should be heating oil in the pan you’ll use for the bread. Pour some oil into the mixture and mix. Pan should be hot so when you pour in the meal mix it fries the bottom of the bread a little. Put in the oven and bake for the amt of time on the package of meal. I like the buttermilk cornmeal best. Sometimes I mix in corn or green chile peppers, or sour cream - or all of the above.
By Jack
January 7, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
For those who missed it last time, here is the recipe for Jack & Mara’s famous Stew:
1 Partialy digested/freshly regurgitated gray squirrel
4 Potatoes peeled and diced
1 Big Onion peeled and diced
1 cup celery
1 cup carrots
1 tbsp Worstershire sauce
1/2 tsp Ms. Dash
2 cups squirrel broth (beef if unable to locate squirrel)
After gathering up the regurgitated squirrel from the kitchen floor, put in 10 qt stew pot with remaining ingredients stirring constantly until it comes to a boil. Cover and simmer for about 2 hours or until the smell of the cooking squirrel brings everyone running to the table.
By Chilao
January 7, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
Lozen,
Thanks so much; Yeah, I did not think cornbread required sugar. LOL I will probably try diced serrano peppers, I go through alot of them. Everytime I have gone to make, I have gotten out other cookbooks but those recipes seemed much more complex, so I went with what I knew.(the Martha’s).
Jack - is that regurgitation from a dog? cat? human? does it matter? LMAO
By Jack
January 7, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
Yes. A large dog. Sorry I forgot.
By JokesOn
January 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
lozen,
It has nothing to do with liberal. It has to do with “stupid.” There are stupid liberals and there are stupid conservatives. Jeez. But please continue your black and white catergorizations and don’t trouble yourself with complexity!
You are having the same pi$$ing contest with him that you tried calling me on. Hope you can maneuver better than most girls;)
Besides that, you asked me a question last week and I was polite enough to answer but you chose not to reply. Lazy or were you just hoping you could land blast me but I did not give you any ammunition?
By Anon
January 7, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
I actually have a question, not a comment, and it is entirely unrelated to the subject, and for that I apologize. However, I just learned of some horribly disturbing news, and I need to get the opinion of an unrelated third party.
Long story short—what would you do if your newlywed husband went to a strip club on your wedding night while you lay sleeping at the hotel, and used your debit card to pay the tab? (We were both pretty drunk that night, or at least I was, and I passed out once we got back to our room. So to my knowledge, there was no hanky-panky (we’ve been together for over 5 years, so that’s nothing new). Also, when we got back to the room, he made zero effort to be intimate, and so I assumed he was very drunk as well. Also, his parents and his child were staying in the same hotel as us, as they were in the ceremony-not sure if this will affect your opinion on this, but those are the facts).
My thoughts range from blaming myself for passing out that night, to having the marriage annulled. Please, I ask that only SERIOUS advice be given in regard to this post.
Miserably Married
By Jack
January 7, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
He should get on his knees and beg for forgiveness and then you should kick his butt out.
By lozen
January 7, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
Anon. Please… I would definitely hide my credit/debit cards from now on. And maybe you should snag his card to pay for a night out for you and your girls at a strip club. JokesOn, I don’t remember the question or the answer!
By Archie
January 7, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
Anon, my suggestion is that you annull the marriage if that’s what you want. Your husband may have a sex addiction problem but you’ll have to decide what to put up with.
By Jack
January 7, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
Do not blame yourself!!! He should have done the right thing and went to sleep when you did and had morning delight when you got up. Dump him. You can do better.
By lyrazel
January 8, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Topic: its too funny! I am waiting to see what Disney does—whether it has the courage to show a pregnant teen on its TV show about teen life—probably not. Its a pity mom Spears canceled her parenting book—would have loved giving the advice to Shaunti!
Anon: grow up and stop calling sex hanky panky. One: Why ever did you give him the pass codes to your ATM bank card? Is it a joint account? If so, he has every right to use the money as he sees fit. If not, it is theft and you are obligated to report it as crime against your person—if you don’t you accept the withdrawal. Second, you must have experienced such clubbing behavior from this man in the 5 years he has been with you. If not, how well did you know him because most men do not jaunt out to a girlie club once in life, usually they are frequent oglers. Some men are dragged there by sophomoric buddies intent to bachelor party and despise it, you would have heard the rueful story. Again, my grandmother told me the best food in the city was at a men’s club and she and her seniors went there for brunch & everyone was very friendly. Maybe he was hungry and Waffle House was closed. Third, why were you passed out? Why did you not moderate your drinking for colitis later on like most married people have? Perhaps your fault is drinking like a lush on his big night (yes HIS too) and thus he could have issues against your inappropriate behavior (considering he had a child at there + parents). Before you annul the marriage ask yourself why you married. If its so easy to be in the mindset of annulment maybe you were not really into the long commitment. Jumping at any excuse to leave does not make a marriage strong.
By Sally Benson
January 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
I think dyslexia causes teen pregnancy. Brittany admitted that she was trying to moon the papparrazi when she shot that beaver in that limo that night. Simply dure dyslexia and teen pregnancy would disappear.
By Archie
January 8, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Lyrazel I am glad to hear from you and I miss the kind of posts you made years ago when the topics were a little better. I could disagree with you yet you always took it and discussed things in a mature way. Anyway you brought up some good points in you 10:58 am post that I had not thought about. I have never eaten at a strip club but you’re right in that she might have turned him off with her drinking and you were right to point out it was his big night too. The points you made were good points in that you didn’t automatically pick a side and that’s what’s missing from this blog.
By Scalia
January 8, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
For some reason, I don’t think that Sally Benson is a woman/girl. I know absolutely no woman that refers to her genitalia as a beaver. That is strictly a man’s word.
By JokesOn
January 8, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
lyrazel,
Although a tad bit harsh, I agree with your 10:58 post.
I would like to correct you on the frequent ogler comment. I could imagine being bummed that my new wife passed out on the first night and therefore went out to celebrate (and stay committed of course - no fooling around) without her although I rarely visit strip clubs {if averaged = once per 3yrs maybe}.
By the tone of the post it does not sound like a healthy relationship no matter how you look at it. They (she?) seem to have a lot of animosity already built up - a sincere good luck to you both.
By Jack
January 8, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
I go about once every year or so. Usually at lunch with some guys from work. I usually agree with you Lyrazel, but no man worth a toot would go to a strip club on his wedding night.
By Monica
January 8, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
Hope Santa was good to all of you!
On topic: How about our culture has made sex much more accessible to teens? I had lunch with a friend over the holidays, and she was in a rush to get back home because her 14 year old daughter’s boyfirend was over. Never in a million years would my mother have knowingly left me alone in my house with a boy. Even when I was a senior in high school, and my boyfriend and I would go downstairs to watch a movie, she sent my little brother down periodically to ask if we needed more to eat, drink… etc. I don’ care how morally strong a teenager is, temptation stronger.
Off topic, but Anon got me thinking: how many of you married folks have separate banking accounts? We have joint accounts - I added my name on his account about a month before we got married. Anyone else?
By lyrazel
January 8, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
Sure I am harsh because it annoys me that people make vows of commitment then la di da escape them with whatever trivial whimsy occurs. Think of how fast they will run away when one has cancer, dying child, ill parents needing home care…>not a good start.
By lyrazel
January 8, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
Monica, always had a joint account when married. I patrol them with regular intent, questioning excessive withdrawals and charges. We spent christmas eve eating reindeer sausage (gift from new sister-in-law from Sweden).
By f(x) = 36x^2
January 8, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
In what world would an American 16-year-old professional television actress be considered just a normal teen?
By Monica
January 8, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
Wow, renideer sausage! Gotta try that one!
f(x), unfortunately, that world exists in the minds of too many teens. They see shows like The O.C. and Degrassi (think that’s what it’s called) and they believe that to be reality. I too, wondered if the intent of the topic is to question how someone in the limelight could possibly get pregnant.
By Scalia
January 8, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
Monica, that is a good way of looking at it. I keep looking at the other people her age in the limelight, and wonder how Jaime-Lynn slipped up. God knows, Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, or any of those girls would seem more like a candidate than Jaime-Lynn.
And Degrassi is wild. The stuff that goes on at that high school is crazy.
By Jack
January 8, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Hi Monica. We have 3 bank accounts, mine, her’s & ours. Works out much better.
By GOB
January 8, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
Jack- That is what my wife and I do too. We both get an “allowence” each pay period in our own accounts, and then use the joint account for bills, eating out, etc…It has worked well so far…
By f(x) = 36x^2
January 8, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
They see shows like The O.C. and Degrassi (think that’s what it’s called) and they believe that to be reality. I too, wondered if the intent of the topic is to question how someone in the limelight could possibly get pregnant.
You’re missing my point. A teenage television star is not a child. Child actors are generally forced to mature far beyond their years. To ask “What factors, beyond having sex, contribute to teen pregnancy like that of Jamie Lynn Spears?” falsley assumes that JLS is in some way like the typical teenage girl, and that something can be learned from her situation.
Jamie Lynn Spears is NOT just another teenage girl, and there are very, very FEW teenage pregnancies “life that of Jamie Lynn Spears”. Her “factors” are as different from the “factors” of the typical pregnant teen.
The comparison is almost like trying to figure out why someone is anorexic by studying people who have no food.
By Monica
January 8, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
I agree with you f(x). That was what I meant by the last part of my post: I too, wondered if the intent of the topic is to question how someone in the limelight could possibly get pregnant. I added the first part because it’s representative of another battle we face when dealing with teen issues.
Given the track record of the most recent Hollywood “child” stars (Britney, Nicole, Paris, Lindsay), who in their right mind would allow their child to become a star?
By AGFNPR
January 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
We have one account. We talk to one another about what we spend, and come to joint decisions. It seems to work out best for us, because it forces us to talk!
By chuck
January 8, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Prediction for topic next week:
Should women candidates for president be held to a different standard than men when they show emotion while campaigning?
Anybody see Hilary’s crying jag from New Hampshire last night? Dick Morris explained it as a “control” issue. He said she cried because she had done everything she was supposed to do to become president and it wasn’t working and that she was “frustrated” and basically needed a good cry. I hope she doesn’t do that whe Iran doesn’t see things her way.
Hey Monica. To answer your question, we have joint checking and savings accounts. My wife pays all of the bills from that and I rarely write any checks right now. We kind of take turns though. It’s been about 2 years since I was in charge of that task. I have a credit union account that’s separate but not for any particular reason other than I was the only one there when it was opened.
As for “ANON”, they’ve been sleeping together for five years…I think that consumation thing was old hat to both of them based on her description of the events. Doesn’t sound like a really positive relationship either way. A drunk and a pervert.
By Jack
January 8, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Hey Mara. They mentioned our famous stew on Wooten’s blog! I told them it went good with baby wraps. LOL
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By lozen
January 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Seems the pregnancy has been really good for the show; viewers are way up. Next the money behind the shows will be insisting more teen stars get pregnant to up the viewership! So Hillary got emotional; so what? She won New Hampshire!
By Monica
January 9, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
New rock band for presidential candidates: “Lyin and Cryin.” Seems to work! Just kidding, all :)
By Mara
January 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Hi Jack! Which Wootenblog was that on? The one I looked at was about education and I didn’t see any reference to “stew”…
lozen - some are saying she won NH precisely because she showed some emotion. They were sayiing it “softened” her image, showed that she actually is human, and people warmed to that.
By Playground Bullies
January 9, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
Hey, girls can’t play ball! Who does she think she is wanting to play with us? She can’t play ball! Oh, she got a hit? Oh. Well then, she’s not a REAL girl! Yeah, she’s wearing pants. She’s not pretty and feminine like Laura. Yeah! I bet she can’t even bake cookies… And she’s bossy and thinks she’s soooo smart just because she did better on the test than we did. Yeah, I’d never kiss HER! Ewwwww, gross! She’s yucky and talks like a boy. Yeah. Hey she got a triple but got hurt sliding into third. HEY LOOK SHE’S CRYING! HA HA HA! Lookit! The bossy girl is cryyyyyying… Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah! Told ya she can’t play ball!
By Jack
January 9, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
Mara. it was the one titled Hillary Down 10 Zip. Some Dilbert with moniker Velvet Bunny made a snide comment about it. He just hasn’t had good stew.
By Archie
January 9, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
Sure I am harsh because it annoys me that people make vows of commitment then la di da escape them with whatever trivial whimsy occurs. Think of how fast they will run away when one has cancer, dying child, ill parents needing home care…>not a good start. Lyrazel you just don’t know how true your statements are. Lyrazel you sound like a mature woman and I can vouch for your statements because I am going thru something right now. Bad health situations will come up and you won’t be able to get away and that’s why I applaud Jack and Chuck who have been married for a long time because they know relationships are not about lovey-dovey all the time. You were not too harsh Lyrazel and in fact you need to write more on the facts of life for the benefit of these young posters.
By Jack
January 9, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Thank you Archie. It takes work on both sides to stay together. The Mrs. deserves a medal.
By Archie
January 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
Thank you Archie. It takes work on both sides to stay together. The Mrs. deserves a medal. You are welcome Jack. I wish Lyrazel and yourself would post more to educate these young people because you have valuable life experience. I may not agree with you politically Jack but those that I do agree with politically speak too much like flower-children at times. Teen pregnancy means diapers,formula, and sitting at home while your friends hangout and that’s why I gave the response I did, not because I dislike sex. Everybody on this blog knows someone that’s sick so life is not a bed of roses.
By Monica
January 10, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
Mara, lozen, Kimberly… Do me a favor and check out the MOMania blog today. There are some people there today who make Chuck and me look like liberal poster children. Help!
By LauryT
January 10, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
Wow. Looks like the AJC needs to beef up their spam filters!
Okay, I know this is a dead horse of sorts, but here goes.
Lynn Spears is an atrocious mother who has spent more time grooming her children to make big money and support her worthless azz, than she did actually TEACHING them anything. Is anyone actually SURPRISED the younger one turns up pregnant?
I mean really….
By Bruce
January 11, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
“Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.”
John F. Kennedy
By lozen
January 11, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
Eulogy for Woman to Woman:
Goodbye. Farewell. Perhaps you will rise again if you find a spam filter and a way to block Bruno, and someone who can pick better topics…… Goodbye.
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