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DEL.ICIO.USRunning out of options
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Just imagine what it would have been like if the Dawgs hadn’t had two weeks to prepare for the triple-option!
Makes you shudder, doesn’t it?
A lot went wrong for the Bulldogs on a miserably rainy Saturday when the Dawg Walk was canceled and the seniors didn’t even get to pose for pictures on the field with their parents. The offense certainly wasn’t perfect despite record-setting days by Matthew Stafford and Mohamed Massaquoi. As brilliant as he was at times threading the needle to MoMass, Stafford also made some awful throws and a pick-6. Of course, he was under considerable pressure much of the time with too many Tech defenders in the backfield. Knowshon Moreno continued to develop as a double threat, running and catching, but Georgia never really established the running game. And those holding and false-start penalties certainly didn’t help.
But the offense didn’t lose to the Jackets. Bottom line: If you’re an SEC team and you score 42 points, you should win the game.
This one falls squarely on the defense, which looked completely hapless in the second half, and on the special teams’ play, which was awful as usual.
The lack of discipline displayed much of the season by the team in general reared its head again in the third quarter as the Dawgs once again wilted in the face of a revved-up opponent. Now, it’s true that lack of execution falls on the players. Assignments were missed. Tackles weren’t made. Defenders tried in vain to shove a runner out of bounds instead of taking him down.
But those flaws point to a bigger problem for Mark Richt’s program: His defense does not appear to be well-coached. And the entire philosophy of special teams at Georgia is wrong-headed. To get to the heart of those problems, you have to look at the coaching. Georgia played four major games this year and had fatal meltdowns in three of them for losses. And even the LSU victory saw our defense hemorrhaging points. Ditto in the win over Kentucky.
On the matter of special teams, coach Jon Fabris just doesn’t have a clue. Georgia’s approach to kickoffs, with high, short kicks (when they don’t go out of bounds) and mediocre coverage by a team dominated by walk-ons, routinely results in superb field position for the opponent. Meanwhile, we have a 17-year-old kid back there receiving kickoffs for us who hasn’t even been coached on where he should line up before the kick, resulting in catching the ball while running backwards and then not knowing where to go. And then he fumbled on top of that.
Fabris also coaches defensive ends, and while that position has been a disappointment for Georgia this year, a lack of talent seems to be the main problem there. In the past, he’s produced some terrific DEs. Richt needs to let Fabris focus on defensive ends and find someone else to handle special teams. And maybe he needs to take a page out of Urban Meyer’s book and realize that special teams require more time, thought and emphasis than Richt has been willing to allocate so far.
As for the defense, the strong finish the past two seasons after faltering early in the year now appears to have been an aberration. The Dawgs started out this season mediocre and never got better; in fact, they appeared to get worse. Willie Martinez has shown little imagination in scheming and apparently isn’t able to teach his players how to fix what’s wrong. And, like Richt, he appears incapable of demanding his players perform in a disciplined manner. Maybe that’s because when they make blunders, there are no repercussions other than “loving” them more.
Martinez needs to go.
Richt, meanwhile, remains in some sort of la-la land of denial, sticking by his buddies on the coaching staff even when it’s obvious things aren’t working. And, knowing how stubborn Richt is, it’s likely to remain that way until the day that Michael Adams calls him in and tells him point-blank he needs to make some changes on his staff.
Frankly, I hope Adams doesn’t wait for another underachieving season before he does just that.
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Comments
By Chris
November 30, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
I sure wish Mark Richt was my boss. Must be nice to get worse with your job performance every year and never have to worry about getting fired. Willie Martinez’s defense has given up more points each and every year he has coached them. Yet Richt continues to deny there’s a problem. Totally UNREAL!!
By The Devil
November 30, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
People, you need to come to a consensus. (look it up) Some of you want wins at whatever cost; some want a program with high character and 9-3 or 8-4 type seasons. Decide which way you want to go and give me a call. Of course, you’ll have to commit your souls, but we’re talking college FOOTBALL, here. toodle-loo, poodle-poo
By reebok
November 30, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Great game. This should restore the rivalry. Good luck in your bowl game, Dogiies. GO JACKETS!
By RAMBLE ON!!!
November 30, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
45-42
By Jimbo
November 30, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Agree on all points but also wonder what has happened to defense in general: Mizzou, 37 points in loss, Oregon State, 38 points in loss, and Oklahoma State 41 points in loss. So let’s not look to them for any pointers (or coaches). To me it’s indefensible to (1) get celebration penalties and (2) get kicking the ball out of bounds penalties. They nearly always lead to bad consequences.
By Palmetto State Dawg
November 30, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
I agree with everything you just said Bill. I was not able to attend the game, but watched on CBS, and that 3rd quarter was atrocious.
Offense - I guess they’re the bright spot, and yes, you should win the game after scoring 42 pts. Again, the false starts are getting a bit annoying. I’ve never seen a offensive line have so many false starts in their own stadium. Moreno is a stud, and Stafford continues to have his knucklehead moments.
Defense - Where do you start here? What I cannot understand is that these are pretty much the same guys that we had last year with the exception of 2-3 players. They had two weeks to prepare for the triple option. They did a decent job of slowing it down in the 1st half, but the 2nd half was unbelievable. I do not understand why our defensive players do not understand that they need to wrap up. That “bump” that Ellerbe gave their back on the 1st play in the 3rd quarter was pathetic. Does he think that he is that much stronger and bigger than the other guy? On the 3rd and 6 in the 4th, all we needed was one stop. What does Tech do? They get a 55 yard TD run, and Reshad Jones can’t even knock the guy out of bounds. For the life of me, I do not understand why our guys cannot play 60 minutes. They are not well coached, don’t get any pressure on the QB, and cannot make any adjustments. Martinez needs to GO.
Special Teams - What in the world is Richard Samuel doing back there? Poor kid has no clue…. Why do we have a 220 lb tailback back there returning kicks? What about Ramarcus Brown? Lastly, our kickoff coverage and kicks are horrible. I watched Bama-Auburn game after our game. Why can’t we kick it in the end zone, and then get down there and bury someone? Blair Walsh obviously does not have the leg for kickoffs. He either kicks it out of bounds, or can’t kick it long enough. Either way the other teams gets great field position to start.
The most disturbing thing is that these are things that a “big time” program like GA should not be struggling with.
Note to Richt: Get a new defensive Coordinator, and hire a special teams coach.
By bamadawgsc
November 30, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
Our defense was beaten by a more physical team. Coach Richt better make some coaching changes on D or we are going to look like Auburn next year after Moreno and Stafford depart…….I thought the 7-5 Goff/Donnan days were over, but they might be just around the corner.
By Dawgonit
November 30, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
Poor coaching. Period.
Special Teams- Awful- Besides the fumble, Richard Samuel is a terrible return man. He hesitates and runs sideways, and then fumbles. How many times did we start inside the 15 because of his returns. I don’t blame him. I blame whoever put him out there.
Defense- Com’on- Willie Martinez has been awful from the beginning. But this year has been beyond description. Fire him, please. His coaching is terrible.
Dicipline- There is no dicipline in this program. From the arrests, DUI’s, poor tackling, personal fouls, inability to stick to your assignments. The coaches should be disgraced.
By BoiseDawg
November 30, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
I don’t completely agree the defense lost this game. While the defense has been a huge liability all season long, I think they actually played well enough to win yesterday. Two turnovers resulted in 14pts. for Tech. Throw in all the holding penalities and two kickoffs that went out of bounds and there is plenty of blame to go around. Bottom line the entire team was undisciplined and looked poorly prepared all season.
By Dawgonit
November 30, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
I have been a little disturbed over the last couple of years by how “cool” Richt has become. From the sunglasses, to the Ford commercials, to the dancing on the sidelines, to the infatuation with Jersey colors. He no longer seems to be as concerned about coaching as he is about being “cool”.
Nick Saban doesn’t dance on the sidelines does he?
Richt needs to worry about an underachieving team. The worst thing a coach can say is that the team underachieved. That falls squarely on the coaches.
By Sidleine fight
November 30, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
Someone please tell us what happened on the sideline between martinez and the assistant who were fighting.
By Mikey
November 30, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
Defense- anyone see Alabama’s D this year ? How about Florida’s ? Auburn’s ? Vandy’s ?
Heck, even Tennessee had better D than we did.
Are we satisfied with ours ? The answer is clearly no. The big question: is CMR ok with it ?
By Gator Joe
November 30, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
Now Junkyard, don’t be stirrin’ up trouble ‘bout how Richt and most other coaches handle Special Teams… Meyer’s just a little quirky that way… no need for other teams to change ANYTHING!
By CarolinaDawg
November 30, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this
The Tar Heels had 2 weeks to coach their 2 and 3 star players to contain the option, and they give up 7 points.
Georgia has 2 weeks to coach their 3, 4, and 5 star players to contain the option, and they give up 38 points.
Time for a coach to be handed a pink slip!
By william cranman
November 30, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
Bill, it’s not that Fabris is telling Walsh to kick it short it’s that the kid physically cannot kick the ball to the endzone.
By CW
November 30, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
Comments from a Tech fan:
Having watched all of two UGA games (Tech and Bama), and a few minutes of other games I absolutely agree with the original post that the same problems that plagued the dogs all year cost them the Tech game. Tech has great talent in the O backfield and the D line, and everybody else is young and fairly mediocre. Georgia has much better talent everywhere on the field except for D line. And yet they lost to a younger, less talented team, AT HOME.
Mark Richt has the potential to be a great coach, but remember who he worked under for years: Bobby Bowden, the guy who practically invented running a program with NO DISCIPLINE. Here’s the major difference though, Bowden has always had Mickey Andrews and other assistants to play the heavy and make sure his D played with toughness. Richt has no such heavy and appears to be unable to take that role on himself.
Tech also had some bad plays and penalties that hurt them. Did you see Coach Johnson chewing out Tech players on the sideline? Can you possibly imagine Richt or anyone else on the Georgia sideline doing the same?
Bottom Line: Coach Johnson expected and demanded more accountability out of the youngest team in the ACC and would not accept less out of a team with only 70 scholarship athletes (15 less than NCAA maximum).
Richt, just like Bobby Bowden, is a great recruiter and is very comfortable winning when he has superior talent. But if the talent level is close to evenly matched, he just can’t get his team to the next level.
By GW
November 30, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
Samuel’s return problem starts by being the ONLY deep back. He has to run across the field to catch the kick and his momentum is not forward. What other team deploys only 1 deep return man? The logic behind Georgia’s kickoffs is a mystery to anyone that keeps up with football. Forget Martinez’s scheme. His philosophy and teaching of fundamentals is terible. The DBs can’t cover without interfering and seldom intercept passes and can’t tackle. I suggest the “butt up” tackling comes from not practicing taking runners to the ground in fear of injury. See in the same thing over and over again is so discouraging as a longtime fan who thought Richt had turned it around for the long haul. Has he become complacent?
By JD
November 30, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
UGA isn’t going to go 7-5 next year. They will win 9 or 10 games becausel luckily for you, UGA plays in the awful SEC so they only have to play 2 tough games a year (and Bama, who hasn’t beaten anyone this year, won’t be on the schedule next year).
By whoodog
November 30, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
the dogs look just like tennessee as that program started it’s long slide to the bottom.
By Dawgonit
November 30, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
JD,
You’re right, they could play in the ACC where 4 losses will get you to the championship game.
Which conference is better by the way. The Big 12, where Georgia’s defense would be adequate? The Big 10, where they lose to Div. II schools on a regular basis. The PAC 10, with USC and who else? Maybe the Big East, or USA conference? Or the WAC?
Give me a break.
By Cuz
November 30, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
It would be nice to play a full sixty minutes in the bowl game. Nice, but apparently, not likely.
Kind of sad that Sunday morning quarterbacks can figure out the problems but the coaches responsible seem to be clueless. Of course I am not in their shoes. I am just glad that I am not in their seat. It ought to be warming up quite a bit.
By spike
November 30, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
The offense played great. 42 points and we lose. Let’s face facts. All year the special teams and defense have sucked. Period.
By Cuz
November 30, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Spike, 42 points should be enough to win any game, well it used to be. Should we get used to futility, or will there be changes made. My guess any changes will be after the bowl game. I imagine right now it is circle the wagons at Richt and company. We most likely will not know of any changes until sometime in January. Hey I could be wrong, it would not be the first time.
Also, I have to agree, special teams has done a 180.
By TechGrad/GatorDad
November 30, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
UGA’s problem stems from recruiting too many over-hyped skill players on offense at the detriment of big uglies on the lines. Having no sacks from your DEs tells a lot — it’s the FSU recruiting model with the same results
By WildBill
November 30, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
I have read the above blogs, and nearly all of them are true. However, CMR and his clueless coaches don’t give a ratsarse about what the yucky fans think or say. CMR is spineless and doesn’t recognize that discipline is mandatory, not optional, in football. Maybe he should be a pro coach, where the players do what they darn well want to do. We have said time and time again, all year, that Willie and Fabis are lousy excuses for coaches. I know a lot of high school coaches who could outcoach this bunch of yahoos anytime, anywhere. It is laughable that a big time school has such minor league coaches, that make UGA the laughing stock of the country. This morning at church, I was besieged with questions about the dogs play yesterday, all the while laughing. Does CMR know this, that his team is the laughing stock of the country? Well, every time I see a Ford commercial or Dalton Carpets, I wince when I think of the pitiful, useless, and just plain sorry sight of a football game yesterday. I bet ole Vince ran and hid when he saw the game unfolding. Wonder what he was thinking…….
By murfdawg
November 30, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
When you play a good team(Bama,Fla,GT) it is the little things that make a difference. Starting with the first kickoff going out of bounds. Then a penalty then a good play by the other team, then a breakdown and all of a sudden you have given up 21 or 26 or 28 points in a quarter. This has happened all year and the only conclusion I can come up with is…..poor coaching. Special teams and defense are a complete embarrassment to a program like UGA. I hope Richt fixes these problems before they bring him down.
By gregodawg
November 30, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
Good comments CW. You are right. Congrats Tech… those guys played like crazed loons,they wanted it, and damn well took it. A classic. Kinda like the Braves in ‘91 WS. Great contest-good guys lost.):
By FOOLS GOLD
November 30, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
You dawg fans still dont get it. Last year was Fools Gold when UGA got a number two ranking and it came to truth this year. Last year UGA lost to SC at home, got blown away from a Cutcliffe Tenn. offense, got a lucky fumble at Vandy, and played a joke Hawaii team in the Sugar Bowl. UGA is simply an overrated football program like Clemson. Right now Clemson is the better team because Dabbo Swinney has gotten Clemson back on track while UGA continues to slide. Mark this down mutts; UGA WILL LOSE its bowl game too and next year will be another year of FOOLS GOLD!!!!
By Dawgonit
November 30, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Seems like Clemson was ranked about 8th when the season started. They couldn’t even compete in the ACC where 4 losses get you to the championship.
By HONESTY
November 30, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
UGA has never been a “top-notch” National Powerhouse. It hasn’t even ever been a “top-notch” SEC Powerhouse.
UGA has always been, and will always be, a 2nd-tier SEC doormat for Alabama, Auburn and formally Tennessee, now Florida, and possible Tennessee in the future (let’s see what Lane Kiffin can do there).
Before Tech’s slide into mediocrity in the early 70’s, what was the series record? How many National Championships has UGA won? What was Vince Dooley’s career ending won-loss record?
From 1946 to 1975 (30 years), the series was split even, 15-15. UGA has won ONE NC. Vince Dooley was 201-77-10 in 24 years; averaging at 8-3 every year. UGA, you aren’t The Crimson Tide, you are a step above Ole Miss and South Carolina.
By scooter
November 30, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this
Look guys. Best wait and see what Richt will do before you go off about him being spineless. I suspect he understands the seriousness of the situation. The reality is that this team lacked leadership from within the players. Somebody should have been in Reshad Jones’s grill for his consistent display of bad play. But, it says alot too about our depth when you have to leave a guy in there who was playing as bad as he was. Too bad that Bryan Evans got hurt or Reshad may not have even played. Look, when the leader is Corey Irvin, a JUCO, that says enough about leadership. Mo Mass’s influence didn’t really go beyond the other receivers. Hey, in some respects, this will bring things to the proverbial fork in the road. It is possible that Ga will slide into the Goff years funk, but it is just a possible that some changes will be made and greatness will return. Everybody just needs to get ready for Stafford and Moreno to leave and the Dawgs going into next year barely inside the top 20 and probably ranked behind Fla and SC in the East… Probably a better place for us to start. We just didn’t have the horses, or the discipline to deliver on the expectations this year. By the way, how fitting that the Tech game fiasco was preceded by yet another DUI. Wow..
By RAMBLE ON!!!
November 30, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this
45-42!!!
By stings to lose...ask any dog.
November 30, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this
Hey Cuz, time to start your Fans of Willie?
By BullGator
November 30, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
C’mon now guys! We all argue and kid around, but come on! You guys are supposed to be SEC elite.
WE NEED YOU TO BE GOOD.
Meyer and Saban have shown that hard-nosed discipline gets results. As objective as I can be, I have mixed emotions about how good a coach Richt is, but you Dawgs have got to do something about Martinez.
With Kiffin coming to Rocky Top, it ain’t gonna get any easier on the recruiting front. He may or may not be able to coach, but he apparently can recruit. And he’s a lot closer to Georgia than he is to Florida.
By TDone
November 30, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this
My Honest Take:
Georgia had the better players, but Tech had the better team.
I chuckle every time I hear that Johnson runs a “high school” offense. Folks, Football 101 says it’s all about blocking and tackling. With those two ingredients, any offense can and will work.
Just like Alabama took Clemson’s manhood, Alabama took Georgia’s manhood. Then Florida did it again. Then Tech a third time.
Maybe, Pat Dye was right after all.
By Old Jacket
November 30, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
After 7 years of losses and listening to all the arrogance and condescension from Dawg fans, this Yellow Jacket is enjoying watching y’all feasting like a bunch of piranhas on the coaching staff and anyone else to alleviate the pain of finally getting beat by that bunch of innately inferior nerds from North Avenue. PS: If you dyed in the wool Dawg Fans who can’t find Athens on a map need any help with the big words I used, try to find someone among you who knows of a fellow named Daniel Webster…
By JD
November 30, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
Dawgonit - that the SEC has two teams with 1 loss combined is my point! They didn’t have to play anyone. Tech had three teams in common with Bama and UF and they went 3-0 against both (UGA, Miss St, & Clemson for Bama and UGA, Miami, & FSU for UF). If Tech played in the SEC we would have gone 11-1 against that weak competition.
By George
November 30, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this
Look at Van Gorder’s Falcons D. They look Awesome!!! They play their b#lls off every play. Our guys take every other play off.. 2nd tier under Richt unless he gets solid people around him.
We have finished high in the polls in 2002 and 2007 but were never in the hunt for the NC….its been 8 years people..8 years.
By Mikey
November 30, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this
I have read nearly 500 posts since the game and the overwhelming emotion is disgust. The overwhelming consensus is that we need someone with some fire to coach the D and special teams.
Lets see what happens after the bowl game.
If no changes are made, then we have a classic case if insanity- keep on doing what we have been doing but expecting different results….
By AUeagle
November 30, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this
I heard Richt was able to find every player on the team “tickle me Elmo dolls” to cheer them up and he’s going to get all the elmo’s black jerseys to motivate them for the bowl game.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
By Dawgonit
November 30, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this
Jd,
Tech couldn’t even make the conference Championship in the ACC conference where the winner will have 4 losses. Com’on. Tech can enjoy it now, but the wishbone will never hold up and you know it. Once teams get used to seeing it every year, what is Tech going to do? This ain’t Furman or Army we’re talking about. How many major college teams run the triple option? Tech is winning now with real recruits, guys that actually went to that school to play major college football. You’re not going to win in the ACC even with 5-7, 160 lb players like they do at Navy or Ga. Southern. Let’s be real about it.
I know the ACC is a great conference. VA Tech is ranked 25th in the country and FSU is 24th. Should be a thrilling heart stopper and I’m sure the whole country will be tuned in for that. I know Tech will be watching as usual. Nobody will be watching the SEC championship with the winner going to the National Title game. T
By Matthew
November 30, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this
UGA should lobby for the Cotton Bowl. Think about it, it makes perfect sense. GA had high expectations at the beginning of the season and would love to get some glory back and what better way to do that than to upset the Big 12 beauty tx tech. GA fans, media, and the football team should be lobbying to go to the cotton bowl for redemption. The Cap. one bowl will have the 3rd team from the Big 10 (Mich st?) who nobody cares about and are they even ranked? Matthew Stafford is from Dallas and would love to have a publized homecoming against the Heisman candidate QB from tx tech. The SEC could help show that the conf. is not down by beating the Big 12 champ in the BCS champ game and having GA beat tx tech in the Cotton. The SEC conf. office should get the deal worked out where the Cap one and Cotton swap teams for the optimal matchup for the conf. and bowl games. The Cotton would love to have Stafford in Big D, the SEC could show-up the Big 12 who has been getting all of the respect, and the Cap One would get a pumped up Rebel fan base who wants to travel to Florida. It makes sense and people with power should get it done. Don’t worry about the Outback b/c they will be happy w/ Carolina and the SEC will tell them it’s the best thing for the conf.
By Cuz
November 30, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this
Stings to lose, touche. I belive it would be Wimps for Willie, or maybe Willie’s Wonka’s. Feel free to throw in your ideas. Since me and a few other brother Dawgs came up with the Fans of Chan, turnabout is fairplay. CMR is loyal to a fault, a fault about the size of the Andreas.
By Jacket Lou
November 30, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this
You’ve Been THUNDERSTUNG!! YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!
By ho hum Dawg
November 30, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this
Well it looks like the Dawgs will be playng in the CRAPITAL ONE BOWL . I wonder if UGA will show up to bail us fans out of humiliation for the rest of the college football world to see.
By disgruntled dawg
November 30, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this
ho hum….. I agree I wont be going to the Crapital bowl either. Richt now says he wont make changes, well now its time for Damon Evans to feel the heat from the fans and supporters for UGA football!
By Cuz
November 30, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
What time is it in the Cotton Bowl, 10 to 9. Great memories, doubt it will happen this year. Take whatever bowl we get, recruit some DE’s and linemen, figure out who is going to be quarterback if Stafford leaves and get UGA a new doghouse, Willie has taken up residence in the old one.
By Mikey
November 30, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
This just in- CMR says NO CHANGES in the coaching staff.
Will we live with this ? We have to…
By Cuz
November 30, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this
Ho hum, it is expectations. The Capital One is not bad if you were not announced the number one team preseason. I like 10-2, 9-3 suks for me. Tech, had no expectations with a new coach. 9-3 is beyond belief. Johnson for Coach of the year of the ACC if not the NCAA. Give the guy the credit he is due. I am not one who said he could not win, nor will he not continue with this offense. Time will tell. All I can say is he made me a beliver by running over my team in the third quarter.
By kauai dawg
November 30, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
Too many penalties and injuries and not enough leadership and chemistry for this team. We seem to have all the talent in the country and yet without leadership and chemistry it doesn’t mean as much. I am not a fan for getting ride of the coaches, look at Abuurn, Tenn etc… trying to change coordinators each year. I don’t think we want that. Willie is a good coach and so is Bobo, give them and the team a break. They will learn and fail forward. Tech deserves to be congratulated for a most deserving win. Go DAWGS!
By They're not who we thought they were
November 30, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this
As Dennis Green would say; “These Dawgs are not who we (or the rest of America) thought they were.
I couldn’t agree with your assessment of Georgia more. We will look back at this team in ten years and see how much talent was wasted on a 9-3 season.
If Richt, whom I love and feel confident in, continues to back Martinez, then the debt will be put on him.
The fundamental lack of discipline this team has shown both on and off the field is disturbing. Maybe they should all sit down together this coming weekend and watch two real football teams play in the SEC Championship. Quit worrying about Soulja Boy and Black Jerseys and Draft status and learn how to cover your assignment, make a tackle, jog back to the huddle without a penalty and stay out of jail.
I am really dissappointed in this year’s team and it all falls on COACHING! This staff needs to learn how to discipline these players. Richt needs to learn how to coach with a sense of urgency. Bobo needs to learn how to call a game and finish off a team when you have them beat.
MARTINEZ HAD TWO WEEKS TO PREPARE FOR WHAT 8 PLAYS????!!!! GIMME A BREAK. 407 YARDS ON THE GROUND TO TECH? LAUGHABLE.
Watch Alabama this week guys and learn (or remember in your case) how to come out and punch somebody in the mouth and play with intensity and heart.
By JD
November 30, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this
Dawgonit - you still don’t get it (not surprisingly). Tech would have gone 11-1 or 12-0 in the SEC. Who on Bama’s or UF’s schedule would they have lost to (we beat all three teams they had in common with both of them)? Neither of those teams have really beaten anyone. They are just playing weak schedules, especially in conference. Face it, the whole SEC sucks.
By Doggonit...I'm a Doofus
November 30, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this
Doggonit…better check GT recruiting. Looks like they got some more “major college” players coming in. None of them seem to be 5-7 160, either. 4 or 5 four star guys in there too. Oh well.
By obeone
November 30, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this
Willie Martinez has the same problem he always had. He is to slow to make the proper adjustments in a game. Paul Johnson new this and he new with the new adjustments he would win in the second half. He told his team that at halftime. He can and will beat Willie Martinez every year until he or both he and Richt leaves because he is smarter than Martinez is. Martinez has COST Richt a National Championship or Two already. How many more will he cost him before Richt is FORCED to get rid of him by the administration. When is the administration going to grow a PAIR!
By He who laughs last ...
November 30, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this
from: heeldawg // AJC, posted on 05/18/2008 //
Hey, Waa Waaa Waaaaa: A snowball would have a better chance in hell than Tech has of beating Georgia this season. You can dream your pretty little dreams and smoke your nasty little crack pipe all you want, but the actual Tech season will fall egregiously short of your over-inflated dreams. Anyone can make predictions. You’re entitled to yours. Here are mine:
Tech will set a team record for turnovers this season—most of them, mind you, in the first half of the season. PJ’s offense is complicated. There will be a learning curve. Execution is predicated upon repetition, and that will not reach critical mass until about midway through the season. Pretty good, heeldawg, GT actually finished like 118th out of 119 in DIV I for fumbles lost, and STILL managed to win 9 games……
Tech’s record will look a lot like the traditional Tech record in the Gailey years: 6-6 or, just maybe, 7-5, if they get lucky at homecoming and beat Virginia. But that’s not likely. Nice one again….. Tech actually lost to VA, but STILL finished win 9 wins!
The game against Georgia will not be close. And, no, Tech will not win. If football games were battles, this one would be the Battle of Cannae, or Agincourt, or the Battle of Salsu—that is to say, a one-sided bloodbath, a victory bordering on total annihilation somewhat akin to the 51-7 game in 2002. You can have all the delusions you want, but this Georgia team is loaded. This Tech team, despite its new coach, is not. Take your Haldol and wait a few years. I’m not the historian you are, but I will say the game against WAS close; HOWeva, THE JACKETS were the ones notching the W!
The above being said, Paul Johnson will win at Tech. And, yes, he is a better coach than Chan Gailey. But Johnson is not nearly as good as Tech fans seem to think he is (he will not be able to conjure up something out of nothing), and Gailey was not as bad as Tech fans seem to think he was (reference your “eleven bowl games in a row” comment). Winning at Tech is a challenge; it’s hard to recruit to an inner-city school in a second-rate conference when a top ten program in the best football conference in America is sixty miles up the road. Gailey did a lot with inferior talent. But there currently is a talent gap between Georgia and Tech that is as wide as it has ever been in the last decade, and that gap will be painfully obvious over the course of the next 2-3 years. The streak will get longer before it ends. Can you repeat this, heeldawg ……..
Paul Johnson will not leave Tech in 5-6 years. A program like Tech or Navy needs a “gimmick” offense to be competitive; most bigger programs do not. PJ’s offense will win Tech some ball games, Tech’s fan base will be happy with the results, and they will make it worth his while to stay. Plus, he likes the state of Georgia (he’s spent most of his coaching career here), and he’s no Nick Saban. He’s loyal. It took a job in Georgia to get him to leave a comfortable position in Annapolis. His lack of mercenary tendencies will serve the Jackets well. Good one here too, heeldawg. Let’s see … Roddy Jones 13 rushes, 214 yards, 2 TDs —- Jonathan Dwyer 20 rushes, 144 yards, 2TDs —- GT - 409 yds rushing, GA - 81 yds rushing —- GT-45 GA-42 ——- Not bad for a “gimmick” offense.
That being said, he still will NOT beat Georgia more than he loses to them, no matter how long he stays. That’s the crack pipe talking again. Put it down and walk away, son. You’ll laugh at all of this grandiosity in a few hours. That’s 1-0 for PJ heeldawg … looks like you’re the one who needs to “put down the the crack pipe, and just walk away”.
Like I said in MAY, 2008…… Paul Johnson’s Tech teams WILL BEAT GA MORE TIMES THAN THEY WILL LOSE! And, as I also said back in May — the MAN (a.k.a. PJ) knows how to win “rivalry” games. Get used to it GA.
p.s. How do you think the snowball is doing in hell?
By Mojoman
November 30, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this
I think this season is a turning point for CMR at Georgia. I think he either makes some tough decisions he hasn’t had to make before, or he starts the downhill slide that ends with his dismissal. I hope he makes the right choice.
By HONESTY
November 30, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this
Something that is being lost on some of the “Dawg Faithful” here, that needs pointing out:
The game of football is, fundamentally, about blocking and tackling. The Dawgs did less of the latter than the Yellow Jackets, thus the Dawgs lost the game.
Make as many tackles as the Yellow Jackets, and the game is won for the Dawgs.
In reality, the Dawgs couldn’t tackle. They blocked pretty good; enough to throw the ball around like crazy. But they couldn’t tackle. What is so hard to understand here? You lost not because GT runs a “gimmick” offense, but because your team didn’t tackle as often.
If they don’t tackle better next year, your team will lose again. The only “gimmick” to the GT offense is that it forces teams to tackle; those that don’t tackle as well (e.g. UGA), lose.
Once again, the UGA team was lacking in fundamentals. All you can blame is coaching, nothing else. If you win next year, then you know your [defensive] fundamentals have improved. If not, then you know that your [defensive] fundamentals are still lacking, and you are STILL a 2nd tier team in the SEC and a 3rd tier team nationwide.
By Fed Up Alumni Dog
December 1, 2008 12:46 AM | Link to this
If the Bulldog Nation wants changes that CMR is not willing to make then I going to say it again MONEY.
The only thing CMR or the UGA administration loves and respects is MONEY.
CMR is coasting all the way to the bank whether he wins, loses, or draws. Why be tough when you make his salary.
How to force CMR and the UGA administration to make the needed changes requires the Bulldog Nation to hold back its MONEY.
If fans don’t buy tickets to the bowl game the UGA administration will wet their pants. For those listing to the radio, the announcers were already hocking the need to buy bowl tickets. Let them go to alone to what will be a sorry excuse of a bowl performance. If the bowl game tickets are not selling, then the fans will get the attention of the UGA administration along with the Georgia Athletic Association.
In tough economic times, UGA will need more and more donations. When UGA comes begging for money refuse and let them know why you refused and you’ll really have their attention.
CMR and the UGA administration will continue to ignore the fans if the fans keep spending dollars. It will be the same old same old with CMR and staff getting a raise for their fine performance (bringing in the dollars.)
Remember MONEY talks and everything else walks. If the Bulldog Nation wants change, it is only going to happen with MONEY. Withholding MONEY that is.
Don’t expect CMR to makes changes, but MONEY can make him. Imagine if he was charged $25,000 for every loss, I bet he would get fired up then.
I’ll get off my soap box. Remember MONEY people.
By Dawgonit
December 1, 2008 6:58 AM | Link to this
JD,
I didn’t realize how good tech is. You’re right, 12-0 in the SEC. I’m sure Alabama would have lost to Virginia (6 losses), North Carolina (5 losses), and VA Tech (4 losses). They may have even squeaked by Gardner Webb (6 losses in IAA). Tech would have probably won the National Championship if it didn’t have to go through that powerhouse schedule.
By JesseV
December 1, 2008 7:10 AM | Link to this
Well it seems CMR is too obtuse to see whats going on in his own house. Now he’s come out in support of martinez and will not make ANY changes to his staff. The same staff that led a team that started with UGA ranked no. 1 to a failed season where we were destroyed by AL, FL and then lost to Tech, and could’ve lost to Auburn and South Carolina if those teams had an offense. Richt is now a joke in my book and should be fired along with Martinez and Bobo! Its time for the Alumni to stand up to this egomaniac, who is more loyal to his buddy then to OUR football team, and convince him to make the changes necessary to improve defense, special teams, and offense! CMR the egomaniac thinks he’s an offensive genius. HA! A quote from Tubberville, They run a simple offense but they do they do well! Alumni convince this man he is not God’s answer to football and he better wake up and take this program to the next level, fire martinez, his buddy, and the special teams coach, hire a real offensive genius and get out of the way so this team can finally compete for a NC or his a$$ will be gone as well! I’m sick of this crud as should all UGA fans who really care!
By view from snellville
December 1, 2008 7:24 AM | Link to this
The season went wrong for several reasons:
By 82DAWG
December 1, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this
Soft Willie Martinez, you are a festering sore. You are the most pathetic excuse for a defensive coach in the history of Georgia football. Go, get the HE|| out of Athens! This defense is the worst EVER in the entire history of UGA football. You s—k! You and your sorry excuse for a defense ruined this season. We will NEVER have a better collection of offensive weapons on the same team EVER again and YOU ruined it! Get the f—k out!!!!
By ThreeSheets
December 1, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
Yeah, that triple option will never work, the ACC is weak, the dogs have 5 star players, our stadium is bigger, tech fans are nerds, WHAT IF!!!……. Have I left anything else out? The dogs got out coached and out hustled. If Chan the Man had been coaching, the dogs would have scored even more in the 2nd half and the Jackets would still have 12 points. Keep believing your hype. 45-42 and a 3 point over Gardner Webb. Enough said. To Hell with georgia!!
By Dawgonit
December 1, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
I want to edit my above post. I’m still sure, like JD, that teck would have gone 12-0 in the SEC, but I was wrong when I said Virginia had 6 losses. They actually lost 7 games. Virginia would have probably gone undefeated in the SEC as well. Gardner Webb too, for that matter.
By ThreeSheets
December 1, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
What power house schedule did the hpyed up dogs go through? The Gators and the Tide looks to be about it, except for the Jackets. Anyway you try to excuse it, the dogs lost, 45-42.
By blackwatchdefense
December 1, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
CMR says no coaching changes at Georgia. Whoopee! We get to play CWM’s defense again next year!!!!
HA HA HA HA!
Keep making excuses you mutts. What a ridicilious program! HA HA HA HA!
By blackwatchdefense
December 1, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
Another thing…Georgia is still overranked at 17th. They got blown out by the two legitimate top 10 teams they played and had a Georgia Tech team that is/should be a top 15 team manhandle them for over 400 yards rushing. Your not better than any team that can put up 400 yards on the ground on you. That’s called being manhandled, spanked, spit on. Georgia eecked by Kentucky and Auburn which is about where they should be..maybe a little higher.
Georiga is still too highly ranked, they should be somewhere around 25. They will be after their bowl game.
By dlamberth
December 1, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
Big games are about motivation and emotion. They require big game coaches. Too bad, we don’t have one. Next time, at the half, send the coaches (all 0f them) for burgers and dogs. Get them out of the locker room. Send in a butt-kicker. Oh, for the likes of Russsell and Van Gorder.
By j.p sartre
December 1, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
It’s not the coaches boys!!!The defensive players are of inferior talent!!!You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken sh-t!!
By Wiz Odom
December 1, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
The sign of a top tier program is that they embrace the No. 1 ranking, they’re even emboldened by it.
The Florida, Alabama, USC and Texas programs show this, they love and epitomize the No.1 ranking. It seems to enhance the killer instinct that championship teams need.
Georgia was shaky from the get-go, it seemed like that No. 1 was an albatross around their necks. It seems they’re more comfortable as the underdog, the team looking for respect, not the No.1.
That’s the sign of a second level team, a team that really hasn’t turned the corner. It’s obvious UGA is going to be anywhere near the level of USC, Texas or Florida anytime soon.
It’s like the old question: what would the dog chasing the car do if it finally caught it? Finish 9-3.
By ags1
December 1, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
find it ironic that Erk Russell hired Paul Johnson before anyone knew who he was and then gave him total control of his offense at Georgia Southern. He then hand picked him to be Head Coach. That in of itself should have gotten the Bulldogs attention. Coach Russell always said that offense could work in Division I and we never believed him. I would imagine if he could hand one of his victory cigars down from heaven a little puff of smoke would be coming up from Grant Field as ironic as that may seem to the Bulldog nation.
By Dawgonit
December 1, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Blackwatch-
You’re right, Georgia is overranked. Based on your logic though, Virginia should be ranked about 12th. How can GT be ranked any higher after losing to 7 loss Virginia and 4 loss NC and 4 loss VA Tech? Not to mention the Gardner Web debacle. If struggling against KY and AUB is a knock or GA, what does the Gardner Web game say about GT?
Do you think Tech will continue to be successful with the wishbone and for how long? Maybe we’ll go back to the 70’s and 80’s style football. One pass completion a game will only win against Willie Martinez. He may even catch on to the wishbone with enough time.
By stendec
December 1, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
If Richt retains Martinez then Richt should go! The Dawgs will be a better TEAM without Moreno and Stafford. These Dawgs teased like 1980 USSR hockey team. Self proclaimed greatness only an illusion. Silver medal no consolation! Double digit wins by UGA as fragile as a sand castle at high tide! Looks impressive but of no real substance. Quickly washes away then is just as quickly forgotten.
By NewnanDawgCF
December 1, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
Bill pretty much hit all the points with this one. I personally would have liked to see some fire and consequences for this pathetic display instead of “woe is me” blah, blah, blah. A serious coach who demands his player’s best would have said no interviews after the game and kept the team on the field doing gassers and push ups for all of their miscues, all while watching the Tech players celebrate with their fans and break off hedges. These players need to fear the consequences of poor play - this coaching staff will never make them do that. Nick Saban has an undefeated team and his punter still found out what happens when you don’t execute, even up 35-0. We need a DC that demands respect and performance; WM is fine with defensive schemes, but he is terrible at getting them executed.
Go Dawgs! Get Serious!
By Go Jackets
December 1, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
Dawgonit,
No need to throw it when you’re racking up 400 yards on the ground.
Tech can throw it when they need to. There’s nothing new under the sun. All the new “Wildcat” formations are nothing but the offense Tech’s running. What’s new is old.
Paul Johnson is going to make the game competitive from now on. Get used to it.
UGA’s best hope now is that another school hires him away from Tech.
By Dogbyte
December 1, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
I don’t think Willie Martinez the DC can be blamed for last Saturday’s debacle. As long as they played his scheme, they were successful. It was when they became undisciplined that the flood gates opened. Now, Willie Martinez the defensive backs coach can be blamed(along with the other defensive position coaches) because his players can’t tackle worth a flip! It’s hard to believe that these players as talented as they are supposed to be, have so few basic skills. The answer to the problem? Back to square one.
By RxDawg
December 1, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
Well, as usual Martinez is taking the blame. I’ve always resisted jumping on that bandwagon and heres why. You cannot argue with the results this guy has had in the past. We have had statisticaly sound defenses and in fact has been the strong point of our past teams. Last year….eh hum, LAST YEAR we ended the season #2 and really should of had a shot at the national championship game. Martinez is the D-coordinator, so UGA’s craptastic defense this year is his responsibility. But folks, its one year. One year filled with injuries. Throughout all of those great defense years and this year, what is the one thing that remained constant and the one thing that changed? The coaches remained, the players changed. This is why I blame the players. We had men in position, they just flat out don’t tackle. People keep saying thats the Coaches fault….puhhhhhlease. It’s football. Everyone knows you have to tackle. Ellerbe and Rashad Jones have been major liabilites for us on defense all year. Jones especially, hes one high profile recruit that just didn’t pan out. He is no football player in my mind. We should honor his scholarship and limit him to maybe special teams the rest of his career. I’m not sure how many of you listen to the post game radio reports on the dawg show but Eric Zier really made great points about how important it is to keeping a stable coaching staff. I’m not saying I’m a WM fan, but the constant scapegoating to him is not appropriate. Now if our D looked like this for a few years in a row, then and only then would I start to think about coaching changes. We can’t be world beaters every year guys. Bottom line, its the players and were just not that good. We have a few gems that have carried us, but the rest are just really bad/medicore players. Don’t worry, we’ll fix it guys.
By Dawgonit
December 1, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
The wildcat may be the same (though I don’t think that it is), but the teams that run it only run it for two or three plays a game. Do you think the option will work year after year against the same teams over and over? Clemson, Miami, FSU, etc.? Do you think there’s a reason why the offense isn’t being run anywhere else?
Props to tech for breaking the streak. But you can’t really be too optimistic that this offense is going to take tech to the next level. You did lose to two mediocre teams and one terrible team, and almost one Junior Varsity team.
The second or third time around and what?
By HONESTY
December 1, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
Dawgonit, I’ll summarize what I’ve said elsewhere: the game of football is, fundamentally, about blocking, tackling, running, and throwing. Any offensive scheme can be stopped; what is important are the fundamentals. CPJ runs this offense because it is what he is most comfortable with running. Not because it is “unstoppable”. No offense is “unstoppable”, just as no defense is “impenetrable”.
As long as CPJ is at GT and CMR is at UGA, GT will hold the advantage because CPJ stresses the fundamentals more than CMR.
GT won the game not because the offense is “tricky”, but because they blocked, tackled, and ran the ball better. 3 out of 4 of the fundamentals wins 99.8% of the time.
By FLAdawg
December 1, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Adams will not be happy when his bean counters report the difference in $$$$ between the Capital One or Peach Bowl compared to a BCS bowl. (The only thing more importand than football at UGA is $$$$) Then he may have to be the one to make an executive decision concerning the coaching staff, the same way he did when he fired Donnan and hired Richt.
By Mike S
December 1, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
OK, back to fundamentals here. Defense, learn to wrap up and tackle. No good player is going to fall down when you bump him with your shoulder. He’s going to laugh and keep running. Especially against an offense like Tech’s, you MUST maintain your assignments. That’s a pretty good idea anyway…And for God’s sake, go out to the intramural fields and find some guy kicking around a soccer ball, and see if he can kick it straight and long…
Also, great game for the Techies. I hate to eat crow, but I certainly have to now.
By Go Jackets
December 1, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
Dawgonit,
I’m not enough of a football expert to know all the answers. If I was I guess I’d be coaching.
I think HONESTY’s post is pretty good though. In any sport, it come’s down to which team executes the fundamentals better. Some people think the spread is the only offense that can work in “modern” football. I guess I disagree. We’ll see over time what transpires at Tech.
I know this though, I’ll be buying season tickets for Tech football next year. I like what Johnson’s doing, I like the Tech tradition, and I like the education my kid is getting there. I only wish I had known about Tech (and could have gotten in), about thirty years ago. Instead I’m a product of the old “Big 8”, when it was the Big 2 and the Little 6. And I remember some Nebraska and Oklahoma teams that played some pretty good football running the ball and passing when they had to.
By Massdawg
December 2, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
It all comes down to coaching. Poor discipline on the field (and off) is a reflection on the coaches. Poor tackling is a reflection on the coaches. Constant, untimely penalties is a reflection on the coaching. Unimaginitive play calling is a reflection on the coaches. If we aren’t going to change the coaches then they need to change themselves. They need to act like they were fired and come back in to work the next day and take an honest look and decide what needs to be done differently.
Not practicing tackling seems moronic for starters. Almost every first down play being a run is predictable. Where’s the no huddle? Are our tailbacks so out of shape they have to come out every 3-4 plays? Why not some of our better players on special teams (NFL Pats been doing it for years)? Why did we go away from the 3-4 against Tech? It was working? Why on the first drive on offense did we see a semi option and then never see it again? Why all the stupid penalties? Why after kicking out of bounds once don’t we kick down the middle of the field every time?
If things don’t change we are going to have to content winning the SEC East once in a while, maybe winning the conference and once in a while get mentioned in the National picture. We won’t ever be a Florida, USC or Oklahoma.
I hope and pray CMR is as smart as we think he is and we see a change in philosophy if we aren’t going to see a change in coaching.
Go Dawgs!
By Pi$$onaDawg
December 2, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
The fun part about all this is IF Auburn, LSU, & UT had teams this year the Dawgs could easily be 7-5 or 8-4 and all you Dawgs know it. You were lucky to escape Kentucky and a bad Auburn team. UGA was well built to will the SEC this year with all the bad teams in the league.
By fred
December 2, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
*off-field “arrests” *stomping the field *flooding the endzone *black-out losses
SUCCESS CAN BE STUPIFYING—-try practicing in pads 4-5 days/week.
DISCIPLINE CAN BE CONTAGIOUS!
GOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooJACKETS!!!! THWG!!!
By Mobile Dawg
December 3, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
I’m willing to give Coach, and staff a pass this year. If Richt is a good coach or has the ability to be a “great coach” it will show after the exibition we saw this year.
To many problems to list here, they’ve already been hashed over many times, it’s not my responsibility to identify and correct them, it’s coaches. They have their work cut out for them. Good luck Coach Richt, this is “One Dawg” who hopes you pull it together.
Go Dawgs
By Mark
December 4, 2008 7:00 AM | Link to this
Dawgonit, CPJ’s offense won’t work after a couple of years? It seemed to work at Georgia Southern and Navy over a number of years. And don’t give me it was a lower level of competition. At GSU he was playing similar talent to what he had and basically dominated for several years. At Navy, he was playing against a lot of teams with greater talent adn had a great deal of success.
I think maybe you are grasping for straws to make yourself feel better. I find it amusing that on several of the blogs, UGA fans are hypothesizing about why CPJ will not be successful at GT.
By Dawgonit
December 4, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
Mark,
I saw the GT blogs when Johnson was hired musing about the same thing. Did you go back and take a look at Navy’s schedule and who they beat. Lower level of competition applies. I would assume there’s a reason why all of major college football abandoned the triple option offense back in the early 80’s. Hey, good luck to you if you thing the triple option is going to lead you to a conference championship, or a BCS bowl. If you don’t believe that it will, then will you be satisfied with 7-5, 8-4, 9-3 and no championships?
It sucks to lose to GT, but let’s look at the records. I don’t have to look to far to make myself feel better. History shows that GT wins at least once every decade.
By Dave In Tampa
December 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
I agree with the post I saw earlier stating that this could be a turn around year for CMR. Either way. I hope they learn from this year and get some discipline back in the team. Tech won this year, Congrats! I’ll take 7 out of 8 games any time.
I see SOME of the tech posters keep saying that UGA has always sucked. For those I have to say, “I still do not see Tech winning an ACC Championship or go to a BCS bowl in the past 8 years.” You have not arrived until you do so. This year just means you beat a very underachieving Georgia team.
The Dawgs will be back. Bank on It! I don’t believe either team will put together more than a 3 game wining streak against the other. The rivalry is back and so will the Dawgs next year. I do wish Tech the best of luck in their bowl game to come this year with a 10 game winning season. As for my Dawgs, we should be there with 10 wins again, but it will be bitter sweet. UGA has sets higher expectations every football year than Tech and should.
By two in a row
December 4, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
hey dogs, Johnson’s perfect option beat you THIS year.
You guys have not always sucked. You got a jump start when cg left….and will continue next year. You guys will be rebuilding next year
By Dawgonit
December 4, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
I love it. Tech wins once in eight years, has a 9-3 season and goes to the peach bowl, no conference title, and you’ve got Techies on here talking 12-0 and and national title. They seem to forget about losing to a seven loss virginia team and almost losing to Gardner Webb. They forget that Tech dominated the second half, but that Georgia dominated the first. Tech only one by three, but you would think that they won by 30. I always heard that you had to have a short memory to be a tech fan.
By ...dawgs got **STUNG** all over
December 4, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this
The RAMBLIN WRECK gave UGA a memory moment,- to keep for 12 months.
By Dawgonit
December 4, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this
God, I know. And you’ve felt that feeling for the last 84 months. No wonder you’re so carried away.
By RAMBLE ON!!!
December 5, 2008 12:11 AM | Link to this
Dawgonit says “and you’ve got Techies on here talking 12-0 and and national title”
That’s because we were referring to your preseason predictions for the last 28 years, just having a good laugh at your expense…again.
BHHAAHAWHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
45-42, loser
By Dawgonit
December 5, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this
We’ve come a lot closer to that (top 10 finish in each of the last 6 years, #2 last year, BCS Bowls, SEC championships) than tech has. I am kind of envious that GA can feel so disappointed at 9-3 and Tech can feel so good about 9-3. Tells you a little about the state of the two programs over the last two decades.
By stings to lose
December 5, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
Hey, Dogonit, what have you done lately?
How does that almost NC taste?
By Dawgonit
December 5, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
Gone 9-3 and a New Years day bowl.
By WTF???
December 5, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this
TUCK FECH!!!! FAMN DAGGOTS!!!
By Disgusted Dawg
December 5, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
Let’s get an on-line count started on how many fans thing MARTINEZ NEEDS TO GO….
Just write and send “Martinez needs to Go”.
CMR … please listen and don’t be so loyal and merciful… Martinez needs to go NOW!!!!
By Pago Flyer
December 5, 2008 11:42 PM | Link to this
The DAWGS will always be just an “average” team in the SEC.
By almost?
December 6, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
dawgonit-
you, just like every other Georgia fan who still uses it, needs to get over the fact that we almost… ALMOST.. lost to garnder-webb. We were playing with our 3rd string quarterback who runs (at best) a 4.8 40 and at no point in the season really had our “high school offense” figured out.
UGA, playing with your “godsends of college football,” Matthew Stafford, Knowshon Moreno, and Mohamed Massaquoi, almost tanked against a mediocre South Carolina squad, a mediocre Kentucky squad, and a flat-out bad Auburn team. I can bet that if you had been playing in any of those games with your 3rd string QBs, those contests would almost certainly not have gone your way.
I will give you credit, you got beat by two VERY good teams in Florida and Alabama, and again by Tech, who is clearly on the rise after several painful years of mediocrity. In that same breath, I can say that you beat (at the time) strong teams in Vanderbilt and LSU, not to mention handing it to ASU in Tempe. I do not like UGA, but I will give credit where credit is due.
However, UGA is currently 0-1 against our “high school offense,” so please wait until you don’t flop in the second half and blow a game against us before saying that our offense will not work.
By Dawgonit
December 6, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this
Almost,
Well… Do you think it will work? And by work, I mean, get you to a conference championship, a BCS bowl, a shot a top level national rankings? I mean, Gardner Webb aside, what about Virginia? All talk about UGA’s wins over “mediocre” oponents aside, what about tech’s three losses to mediocre opponents? And, aside from or including GA, who did tech beat that was anything but mediocre? What has tech really proven, other than it can beat a bad GA defense for one half?
By Navigator
December 7, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
I agree with the sentiment of finding a new defensive coordinator. 30 points against AL and 42 against Tech and the dawgs lose??!! 11-1 and UGA might be talking about a BCS game instead of AL, and history proves that a program can’t throw away games or bowl trips.
By Kelly
December 7, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Coaching sucks. You can’t get up for games like Alabama, Florida? Player discipline is in the toilet. Coaching sucks.
By hook or by crook
December 7, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this
Can you imagine a Dooley/Russell team acting like these guys? Celebrating in the end zone? Dancing? Falling behind by four and five touchdowns? In ONE quarter? If Richt can’t see a problem, the rest of us can. We need a coach, not a fashion plate. If we can’t win after we get three touchdowns ahead, there is a problem. If we drop key games by 30 and forty points, there is a problem. And if we have to struggle to put away five or six loss teams, there is definitely a problem. If Richt loses four games next year in a manner similar to this year, i.e., the same pattern appears, he’s gone. Surely, he must know this.
By john
December 17, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
We let you guys eat up 4 minutes for the last score,as we knew you couldn’t get the ball back. You torched a secondary with 3 back-ups. Watch out mutts because the guard has changed. Can’t wait to have some dawgs on the flats next year. You guys are underachievers and over-rated.
By UGA is so last year
December 23, 2008 7:37 AM | Link to this
You act as if UGA losing was all your fault. Lol. Keep that up - that will come in handy the next few years. We laid 470+ yards on the Un of Miami the game before and we will continue to do it over and over. Coach Johnson has just started with his offense and is adding more complexity with each week. It will be even more difficult to stop next year - not easier. It isn’t about the defense of the team’s we play - it is about the GT offense … . which is here to stay.
By UGA is so last year
December 23, 2008 7:39 AM | Link to this
Dawgonit - typical UGA fan with no clue. Check the bowl games silly. 10 ACC teams invited - the most by any conference in the history of the world! Check the conference ratings also, ACC is ahead of the SEC. Nuff said - you are second fiddle!
By UGA is so last year
December 23, 2008 7:41 AM | Link to this
Dawgonit - the state of the programs the last 2 decades!? Let’s see - we won a National Championship in football in the last two decades. Did you? Oh hideous one with no knowledge of the real world!
By OrlandoDawg
December 30, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
Help! Living in Orlando, thrilled to have the Dawgs here, going to the game. But we can’t find out where/when the Dawg Walk will take place. Anyone know? Thanks!