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Blame game at 9-2?

I saw this post-Auburn quote from defensive tackle Corvey Irvin on the Athens Banner-Herald Web site:

“We’ve been getting criticized the last couple of weeks now. They can’t stop the run. Coach Martinez this, Coach Martinez that. And the scoreboard we’re getting 38 and 40 put on us. They scored 13 points on us today. I’m not bragging or nothing, but we were just getting tired of it.”

Yeah, Corvey. The Bulldog Nation knows the feeling. Especially after the latest in the Dawgs’ series of underwhelming victories this season. The reality is, Georgia’s defense didn’t really look that much better Saturday than it had the three previous weeks when it was giving up points at an embarrassing rate. It simply ran into pretty inept offense.

And still Auburn came within a pass of winning the game. Not just because of our porous defense, of course. There was the second straight week of abysmal play by Georgia’s special teams. And the intermittently brilliant offense continued to stall in the Red Zone and have way too many three-and-outs thanks at least in part to Mike Bobo’s increasingly predictable play-calling.

I guess it might seem crazy to some that many Georgia fans are complaining about the team after it just notched its ninth win of the season, but that’s the way it goes for an elite program that was expected (unrealistically, it turns out) to be in contention for a national championship.

There’s plenty of blame to go around, including on the sideline, and not just Willie Martinez and his soft zone. Georgia’s talent level is obviously down on defense, especially at defensive end and in the secondary. Shall we tag recruiting chief Rodney Garner with that? He’s also the coach of the defensive line that has been manhandled by opponents much of the season and hasn’t consistently pressured the opposing quarterback. And while Jon Fabris has turned out some stellar defensive ends in the past when he had more to work with, his special teams coaching is just clueless.

And then there’s the penalty situation. Some of those personal fouls Saturday were totally needless and just plain stupid. I can’t really argue with the critics who call this team undisciplined and not very well coached. The Dawgs don’t tackle well, either. So the players get their share of blame, along with head coach Mark Richt, who sets the tone for the program and obviously needs a reality check. His “Hey, a win is a win” attitude and apparent instant amnesia about what went wrong each time Georgia squeaks by a team it should have dominated is beginning to wear thin.

And yet Georgia stands at 9-2 and, assuming it takes care of business Between the Hedges in a couple of weeks, in line for the SEC’s third best bowl bid. There are programs that would kill for such a result. We used to be one of them. But we thought we had moved past that point.

So, yeah, 9-2 is good. Not great.

POOCH KICKS: Think we’ve seen the last of Prince Miller back there to receive punts? Let’s hope so. And I’m glad someone finally told Logan Gray that fair catch and waving everyone off and letting the ball bounce aren’t his only options. … Thank goodness for Georgia’s Fab Four: Matthew Stafford, Knowshon Moreno, Mohamed Massaquoi and A.J. Green. I’ve been wishing all season we’d throw more to Moreno; his score on that screen pass shows why we ought to. And to give Bobo his due, that was a very well designed play. MoMass is a go-to guy. A.J. is a phenom. And Stafford always gives Georgia a chance. … However, unless you’re using misdirection, the quarterback keeper isn’t a good call for Stafford. … Sure sign that a promising Georgia drive is about to stall: Moreno takes himself out after a good play and heads to the sideline. … At least we didn’t try that bubble screen Saturday.

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By bill

November 16, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

You said it all, brother…our only hope for better coaching for ‘09 is for some other program to offer WM or Bobo a chance to be the head coach, because Richt won’t ever make a change!

By Ed

November 16, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

9-2 is good, but getting outclassed by (as it turned out) the only two elite programs on Georgia’s schedule leaves a bad taste. Maybe if South Carolina had progressed as expected under Spurrier and if ASU played like last year and if LSU, Auburn and Tennessee were themselves, we’d feel a lot better about this season. But the fact is that Georgia’s schedule turned out to be much easier than any of us thought possible.

It’s hard to watch the same special teams problems, porous defense, red-zone difficulties, and stupid penalties week after week and feel that great about things. Georgia just doesn’t look like a well-coached, disciplined team.

It did occur to me that we’ve beaten Auburn three years straight for probably the first time since the Herschel years. Richt has definitely raised the bar and expectations for Georgia football. Let’s hope excessive loyalty to mediocre asst. coaches doesn’t eventually become his downfall.

I look forward to a great ‘09. Sturdivant will be back, and the offensive line will be experienced and should be awesome. If we can play some D, eliminate at least 2 stupid penalties a game, and get Stafford or Moreno to come back, ‘09 could be special.

By rlinaug

November 16, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

If Richt’s friends are as loyal to him as he is to them, they should quietly step aside.

By Joel P.

November 16, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

Hey Bill, our special teams make me long for the days when Coach Dooley was fretting over the other team’s “deep snappah”. Dooley would never have put up with this debacle.

By AltamahaDawg

November 16, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Oh we know how they feel?

College kids doing the best they can. Fat asz old guys sitting around complaining how their victories don’t meet our approval. Yea, same thing.

By Dogbyte

November 16, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

No, I’m not capable of coaching at the elite level, but I am capable of managing and handling young men. First, I would have sent Reshad Jones to the locker room in front of everyone. Others that got stupid 15 yd penalties would have joined him or at least been put on the pines. That includes face mask penalties. If you are tackling properly, you don’t “inadvertently” get the face mask. And the terrible tacklers(the whole secondary?)would be substituted for. To paraphrase Branch Rickey, “We are looking horrible with you, we can look horrible without you.” These next-level-wannabees who know they will be jerked from the game for arm-tackling and piggy-back rides, will soon get the message. ‘Course it would be better if this happened in practice, but after 11 games, when?

By Truth hurts

November 16, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

Mr. AltamahaDawg: Did you watch Fla. dismantle S. Carolina? THEY are college kids doing their best and next year they will be even better. This is one fat asz old guy that would like to see us able to play with them. We can’t now and I don’t think—without considerable improvement—we will be able to next year. And, do you think that “effort” yesterday, will be enough to beat Tech. If so, you sir are delusional.

By Mikey in the SAV

November 16, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

Bill,Great column…

I have finally resigned myself to the fact that we are what we are- A talented offensive team that is consistently held back by numb/dumb play calling. The first trip into the red zone is a great example…trying the fade when we should have just smashed mouth right into the end zone with 2 fullbacks. That TD would have been HUGE in this game…

Another one of my favorite throw-something-at-the-TV plays is the QB keeper. This is INSANE when Moreno is leading his blocking !!! I would really like to know if this is designed and if so, why ??

Regarding the Defense- at times they actually looked good yesterday, so what else can we say ?

Special teams- I am in favor of a new coach.Period.

Penalties- false starts are one thing, but personal fouls are entirely another.The blame is 100% on the coaching staff for those.

Having said all that, I still love my Dawgs and a 11-2 season will have to do since we absolutely were not ready for a national run…

By Matt Foley, motivational speaker

November 16, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

What’s the problem? We are 9-2 and easily will be 10-2! How many programs can boast 10 win seasons each and every year? The odds of being #1 are so high…we should be happy with a consistent winning program year in and year out! Remember the days of Donnan and Goff! I’ll take some undiscipline and questionable coaching…who cares…just give me my 10 win seasons!

GO CMR!!!

By benadawg

November 16, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

I will be the first to admit i was calling saturday for heads to roll, but with the black coalition pressuring for black head coaches i think i am fine with ours. We could get worse, Ty Willingham will be available. Now if that sounds predjudiced it isn’t meant to be, just honest. If they can come out with their complaints about the lack of black coaches i can have my opinion also…Football brings all races together and if you are a player then i am color blind. But the NCAA should not allow their influence to cloud schools judgement on coaches regardless skin color. Mikey in sav you are right on.

By 2N4YEARS

November 16, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

I can tell you that it is dishearten to see the DAWGS play so underwhelming. The only thing that separates UGA from being a 5-6 team this year is the shear talent. One thing that is so frustrating is knowing how well UGA played during Richts first few years with less talent. Then, after Richt & his coaching staff recruits ‘his’ type of players they get progressively worse?? If UGA played with the attitude today in the early years of Richts tenure, he probably would not still be here. It was just so hopeful that with top-recruit talent that UGA would finally turn the corner. But, as much as I respect Richt for the person that he is, his whole attitude with ‘a win is a win’ and ‘we don’t really have a penalty problem’ and ‘we’ve been winning with the same coaching philosophy the last 7 years’ is just plain frustrating to hear. What’s saddest is if Richt is too blind to see what’s going on in the present, what would make anyone think that is will get fixed? Let me remind you that we heard the same rhetoric in ‘06 & ‘07 when we lost so many games & we’re playing much like the DAWGS of today. As much as I can’t stand him (and not just for beating UGA), Meyer sees when FLA is playing awful (like against Ole Miss) and fixes it, which is the reason he earns the ‘Big Money’. Richt, on the other hand, doesn’t seem to want to face the facts. And the fact is UGA playing awful right NOW.

By OLDDAWG1964

November 16, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

To all you “Crybabies” and Armchair QB’s. “IF” you EVER Played or Coached football your perspective of CMR and his assistants might make a little more sense! But, with all your stupid comments and bad mouthing you are giving me the impression that most of you have NEVER been any closer to the field than the Enzone seats or watching the Boob Tube!! Just because UGA was ranked #1 in the Preseason has nothing to do with how good or bad the team actually was at that time….Games are not played in the PRESEASON!!!!Grow-up/Get a life !!

By Bruce

November 16, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

I’ve come to the conclusion that our defensive problems are not Coach M but instead I think it is an overall lack of talent in many positions on the defensive side. I’ve never seen group of defensive backs that were worse at tackling than ours.

By 2N4YEARS

November 16, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Mikey in the SAV , you are correct, sir. I told my wife when it was 2nd & 3yrd to run the full-backs twice, if needed, but told her to watch because they would try to run the ‘fade’, and we all now the outcome. It would seem that after time & time again, and the TENN game included with two interceptions, one inside the 6-yrd line and the other in the end-zone that we would smash it end. You would think that Bobo would have learned by now, but he hasn’t. That’s what’s so frustrating. That’s the downside to having an ex-QB calling the plays; they always want to be cute.

By BBR

November 16, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

I have been a Georgia fan for MANY years, and I think this article sums it up perfectly. Stafford up the middle works about 2% of the time. Why are we doing that when we have two of the best receivers in the country?? Defense is the same as it’s been all year, and special teams is a joke. I think it’s time to clean house. When things aren’t working time and time and time again, you have to make changes.

By newsman

November 16, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

It’s all Georg Bush’s fault…

By kady

November 16, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Before I start, I will admit I know very little about football. Go to many games, huge fan….This though I know for sure-when you watch MB thread that ball through the opposition to a receiver, you know we should be scoring many, many more points…I don’t know our defense is suspect…Hey, I’m glad we are winning, proud to be a Dawg, but hope in the off season CMR gets his group better prepared (staff and players) with no bs, good old fashioned UGA discipline…and btw, I know the college kids are doing there best…

By 2N4YEARS

November 16, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

OLDDAWG1964 , why don’t you get your head out of the sand. Do you have Alzheimer’s?? UGA played like this during the TENN game last year, then after the Vandy game came alive. Tell me Mr Know-it-All, explain why Ole Miss beat FLA this year, then every since FLA has played lights-out? Do you REALLY think Ole Miss is a better team? Let me remind you that UGA returned 17 starters from a team that beat FLA 42-30 a year ago (and it wasn’t that close). Yes, we lost a few starters to injuries, so maybe we would have lost anyway. But to get the field wiped with Red & Black the way we did this year, 49-3 before FLA pulled their starters out early in the 4th, is embarrassing. And if you can’t see that you are blind, sir. And just so you can take a note, I have played the game of football before, thank you very much. Now, Good Day.

By Okefenokee Dawg

November 16, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

AltamahaDawg - You need to just hush now, you are sounding foolish.

By Truth hurts

November 16, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Also, you people(including the media)that think the defense “stepped up” yesterday, watch the tape. For instance, on the next to last play Remarcus Brown committed vary obvious pass interference which, if called, would have almost certainly given the game to Auburn.
Then again, when you are in the basement a step up still leaves you below the s**.

By TW

November 16, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Tim Tucker’s column is ‘Defense Steps Up’????????? Is he on reassignment from the weather page? American Idol coverage?

Tim - the defense SUCKS! And it will continue to SUCK as long as people in postitions of influence, like yourself, continue to write on tipocs about which they know nothing.

Give me a break.

By FLA DAWG

November 16, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Good Read Bill. I don’t know why so many Dawg Fans think we should feel good because we could feel worse.

In our two only real tough games this season we were blown off the field.

Ohio State will break their decade long post season, SEC foe losing streak by beating The Dawgs by 40 points.

By TW

November 16, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

College kids doing the best they can. Fat asz old guys sitting around complaining how their victories don’t meet our approval. Yea, same thing.

The kids who go to Georgia could have pretty much gone anywhere. They and their parents have entrusted Richt and his staff with developong their raw talent to be the best that it can be.

This is not happening. To silently sit and watch the talent go to waste is a slap in the face to every parent who trusted us with their son.

The sad truth is that had Rashad Jones gone to Florida, or Alabama, or any one of the other WELL coached teams, he would be a household name by name now. Not just him - our defense does little teaching of the game of football and how it should be played. From not tackling well to being in the wrong place on the field to not knowing how to react and persue - none of it is there. The comment above drags the players in front of criticism meant for the coaches - how very chickensh!t.

Allowing the Coaches to hide behind ‘kids doing the best they can’ only contributes to the negligence. Real Dawg fans care more about the kids than that. Real Dawg fans know what it means when parents and players choose Athens.

At least it used to mean something…

By Dawgonewild

November 16, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

D-Line get’s little penetration. CB are too small and horrible tacklers. LB are small, but they play hard. Sometimes have tough times covering TEs. We have solid safeties, but they sometimes make mistakes.

Offense is grossly inconsistent. 1st down we run the ball 90% of the time. Bobo needs to watch Shenahan’s offense to see how to mix it up. They play as if we have a powerhouse Oline, which we don’t. I agree that we would’ve won at least one of those two games if we threw a few screens to Moreno. I’d throw them the whole game. He’s dangerous.

By Chris

November 16, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Yeah the Tim Tucker column is one of the worst I’ve ever seen. Even worse than some of the articles Terence Moore has written in the past. The Auburn offense is terrible, but we let them put together several long drives against us, and frankly they should have won the game. I don’t believe Florida has a whole lot more talent than we do. They are well coached though and know how to dominate against teams they should dominate.

By DawginGermany

November 16, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

I am 26 years old, a proud alumnus of THE University of Georgia, and all I want is a National Championship in my life time. Whatever AD Evans has to do, I don’t care. I am tired of “next year should be special.”

But….

I think CMR has done great things with this program, so I support him and whatever staff decisions he makes. He knows what needs to be done, hell he is one of the best coaches in the country.

Lets go DAWGS! Beat TECH!

By Hollywood

November 16, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

FIRE BOTH BOBO THE BOZO AND SLICK WILLIE.

By stendec

November 16, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

How in the F+++++G Hell did the Ohio State Yuckeyes leapfrog UGA in the BCS poll? The Dawgs HAVE underachieved this season. No one is more aware of that than I. However. And it is a BIG damn however! The only two Dawg losses were to top ranked (#1) Bama and the Gators who have a date for another national championship. Who the F++K did the Yuckeyes lose to? It is all Bulls++t! F++K all the polls. Just put Southern Cal against the Yuckeyes for the national crown. Makes as much sense as bogus BCS!

By WildBill

November 16, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

Bill, you did a good job with your comments. My whole family are UGA grads. My wife was in the Dixie Redcoat Band. We love UGA. BUT, each and every one of us is more than a little disgusted at the behavior of several of the dawg players. Arrest reports speak for themselves. Lackluster play on the field also speaks volumes. We like CMR. We would like to see MUCH improvement in the all around coaching, player performance on the field, and in the college community. Yes, the record is 9-2. But, how the dawgs got there does not speak well for the University. Penalties out the ying yang, arrests, lackadaisical coaching and performance does not invigorate the fan base. I think the overall effort could have been much better. Thats it in a nutshell.

By Munson

November 16, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

While we didn’t meet the high expectations set at the begining of this year, we could still end strong! We need Stafford and Moreno back to finish the drill behind a healthy deep o-line in 2009. Don’t go to the NFL, come back one more season.

Please sign the guest book for Matthew and Knowshon at www.dontgodawgs.com

By CharlotteDawg

November 16, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

Wow, some of you are spoiled brats! Maybe if you got off your a** and decided to become a football coach for the University of Georgia, things would be perfect, right? You can shoulda-woulda-coulda scenarios all day long, but the fact is we won the game! A rivalry game away from home! We came out of our “murderer’s row” portion of our schedule 3-1. I doubt too many teams could have done what we did. Enjoy the moment and get ready for to GA Tech.

By Faceman91

November 16, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

Most of you people are certifiable. 20+ years ago, in a similar game at Auburn, it was Munson imploring the Dawgs to “Hunker Down One More Time” and stop Auburn’s last drive with the game on the line - Georgia fans rightly celebrated the win. Richt’s success since taking over is as good or better than ANY comparable period in Georgia history. And, yes, I include any 8 year period that wraps around ‘80-82 because it would include seasons like ‘77 (5-6), ‘79 (6-5), ‘84 (7-4) and ‘85 (7-3-2). Granted, Richt hasn’t yet played for or won a NC, but his teams have won 10 or more games in 5 out of 7 completed seasons, and look like they’ll do it again this year.

National Championships require a bit of luck. Florida won 2 with regular season losses. LSU won one with 2 regular season losses and another with a regular season loss. Auburn got shut out of the game with an undefeated regular season. A coach can’t control that sort of thing. What he can control, is winning games, winning conference games and winning conference championships. Richt has done just fine by those measures.

At the end of the day, the only statistics that matter are W’s and L’s.

By lynninsavannah

November 16, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

Best article by you all year someone needs to gice a copy to MR

By TallDawgNC

November 16, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Where to start? Been awhile since I’ve posted (year+). Used to post under TennDawg, but have stayed away because it has become so venomous here. Altamah and some other old regulars, good to see your still fighting the battle.

9-2 is a good record. Great? No, but I will take as it is an indication that we are an upper echelon program when it causes such a stir. As an alum and fan from the Goff years, some of you have no idea of what it’s like on the other side of the fence. Am I happy with the D, personal fouls and suspect play calling? No, if I was I would not be being honest with myself. However, I am still pleased and proud of the Dawgs.

My suggestion, and I am realistic so I understand CMR and the players will NOT be reading this or any of these blogs. I personally hope that after the season, AD Evans sits down with CMR (as is common place) as is brutally honest. “Nice year and pleased with the record, outcome, etc.” However, I hope that he puts the pressure on him to be accountable for the performance for some of the coordinators (you all know whhom I’m referring to). They don’t need to be fired now, but through CMR, let them know they will be accountable next year for success or any deficencies. Pull a “Clemson” on some of these guys. If our D and special teams don’t meet a certain standard, then the coordinators are gone. It’s called running a business and if CMR doesn’t want to pull the trigger (loyalty is admirable), then put it in the hands of the AD; since that is one of HIS duties to be a part of too. Just my two cents.

Rest up and get healthy Dawgs. Tech will bring quite a challenge. Take care all. Check back in a few or maybe longer.

GO DAWGS!!!

By JB

November 16, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

I don’t know why I read these blogs. You people are amazing!!!

Defense. If you think we have the level of talent when BVG was here you’ve lost your mind. Rivals calling someone a 4-star don’t mean squat. The legitimate criticism is our recruiting efforts, getting someone w/ all the vital stats but unable to grasp football concepts.

Offense. One guy says we don’t throw enough on 1st down,the other says we don’t smash-mouth. BTW, we ran twice before the fade on the 1st drive. We have freshmen & sophs on the line some of whom have played multiple positions. The play calling is simply not as bad as many of you say. Our young & thin O-line gets exposed in the red zone many times.

I’m sure you’re gonna call these things excuses, I call these what they are… FACTS! Please get some perspective!!

By GJJ

November 16, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

Damn, I would hate to read your opinion if we had lost more than 2 games. Actually, you are wearing me a “little thin”….

By Out of Town

November 16, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

The week of Central Michigan…”Watch out, this could be a tough one for the Dogs.” The week of South Carolina…”The Dogs could go down this week.” The week of Tennessee…”Fulmer always gets the Dogs when he’s down.” The week of LSU…”It’s always tough to win in Death Valley.” The week of Kentucky…”The Dogs never play well there.” The week of Auburn…”This one sets up well of Auburn.”

Yet you guys act like the Dogs are 0-2 for the season. I’ll take 9-2 and see you in line at Wal-Mart next Saturday.

By Grammy Dawg

November 16, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

I have and always will be a Dawg. I have been through the good years and the bad years of the football program. Yes we have had a few arrest and true we do not need any but as in life it is not perfect so our coaches are there to help mold them and I feel they are doing a great job the bottom line lays in the players hand in every aspect the arrest the lackluster performance. I feel some of the pain the rest of you feel but I also know the good out weighs the bad. If the paper reported of all the good works our players do off the field you would all see that we have a great group of guys. I know you may think I do not what I am talking about with football but I took football 101 and Coach Richt said after this class no one could tell us anything we would know it all about football and I do know he is the best coach for us and his staff. The class of this group of coaches is the best you ever will see. If you think it is so easy to make those plays and you think you could do a better job then go for it. Football is not everything an all around person is what our program is and should be about. All get weary but be careful what you wish for. I would rather have the season that we have had with Coach Richt any day than any National Champion with the Florida Coaches, LSU Coaches past or presence. GO DAWGS!!!

By Truth hurts

November 16, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

This is a blog, not a cheering section. If you can’t stand the heat….

By JB

November 16, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

OK I feel better after the last several posts, thanks grammy. Another legit criticism is special teams play and i agree w/ TallDawg, serious off season evaluations are appropriate. But the sky is not falling, we are 1 of a dozen or so programs that will be competing for NC’s for years to come.

By Rabun Dawg

November 16, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

Here we go again, wait till next year!! BullHockey, this is the worst 9-2 team in history. And that crap that, well we lost to the #1 and#4 teams in the country,they were the only decent teams that we faced, and we were stomped by them!! This bunch has been poorly coached, and is the worst disciplined team I have ever seen, on and off the field! This sugar coating and boasting over 9-2 is why we will never reach the pinnacle, the staff seems satisfied with this, from the head man on down. People, this next game could be very ugly for us to watch, I truly hope not, but I fear for the Dogs in the finale!!

By Grammy Dawg

November 16, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

I for one can stand the heat! I been a dawg for 42 years so you can not tell me anything about the dawgs! you either love them or hate them and as long as I have breath I will cheer them on and I will stand up for them. It is people who love them win they win and ready to jump the band wagon when they do not play up to your expectations! Like I said before if you can do any better why don’t you offer up your services. Do not forget all the injuries we have had. We have had to move around so many people I just wished all of you that know how to play or think you know could have went down there and said put me in coach! Then we would see!

By RomeGADawg

November 16, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

hey stendec, you are a dumbazz. Have you not seen GA play the last 3 weeks??? We will drop every week with our lackluster play. And should drop. The SEC is down and FL and AL would beat our azz by 60 if we had to play them again this year.

By JB

November 16, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

rabun, Write a letter to the AD demanding that heads roll, stop monetary support, do anything to help this program in disarray. With your obvious intellect, I’m sure your opinion has much weight! LOL!

By JB

November 16, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this

rome, you have the makings of a great tech fan.

By AltamahaDawg

November 16, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

I was just making a bit of a joke, but I seem to have stepped on more than a few toes.

By The Big Bug

November 16, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Dawg in Germany:

It doesn’t take much to make you proud. # 3,maybe. On another note,everyone here seems concerned about maximizing the talent.But I’ll have to say, I have never seen any team stink up a football game the way GA does ( and I have been watching longer than most)and still come out on top. It’s amazing. The guys on North Ave, the exact opposite. But hey, hat’s off. I’d rather be lucky than good anyday.

By Truth hurts

November 16, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Grammy: 42 years? You are a youngster. Try 62. And the 9th generation of my family are now students at UGA. Does that mean I can’t be critical? Not on your life. And I would like to have some of you find fault with what I am saying, and correct it, not just complain because I am not being a cheerleader. BTW, I go all the way back to Wally Butts Dogs and I was at New Orleans when they won the NC. I’ve seen the good times; I’ve see the lean. Finally, yes we are 9 -2 but Fla. is 10 - 1 and Ala. is 10 - 0. If being 3rd best is good enough for you, no wonder you are such a Pollyanna.

By Rabun Dawg

November 16, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this

JB, If my intellect matches yours, shame on me! I guess you are one of those that wear the”rose colored” glasses and are loving the 9-2 season and how great it is to win in the big,bad SEC, which in case you haven’t noticed, has only two real quality teams this year. This is not to say that UGA is a bad team, but just okay in a league that is not all that good this year. And if I choose not to be happy with what has transpired this year, then it is my call whether or not I can voice my displeasure. All that being said, my opinion probably carries about as much weight as yours does, and that would be not much!

By BE#3

November 16, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this

Don’t we say the same things every year? We never blow anyone away when we “should” on paper. Am I shocked at the outcome of that game? No. Auburn had 2 games to make it’s season: Georgia and Bama. So we got the best they could offer. Our offense was so-so. Stepped up when they needed to. Our defense was so-so. We got lucky on that final drive. Guess God is a Georgia fan after all b/c we couldn’t have won that one if he was against us! Hopefully Richt will truly asses this coaching staff and team and regroup the guys to get back to playing Georgia football in ‘09.

By CMR

November 16, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this

You go, Grammy! Set ‘em straight!

By Dogbyte

November 16, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

I too, hope that CMR will assess some asses-starting the next two weeks-and kick some too.

By WildBill

November 16, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

Just watched the CMR show on tv. Yep, he is happy with the season. Is he happy with the way the games have gone? Must be. Is he happy with several players demeanor on and off the field? Must be. Is he happy to have lost with such total beatdowns from FLA. and ALA.? Must be. Does he care that fans all over the place were hoping to see better played games with few penalties, good play calling, good coaching and decision making, and on and on? Possibly not. He did say he was pleased to be where the team is at this moment. Wonder if he will feel the same if Tech whups the dogs in 2 weeks. Dunno, do you?

By Dogbyte

November 16, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

AltamahaDawg: You have to remember that intellects—mine included—on this blog are not geared to dry humor. Try putting a latte topping on your offerings. :>)

By JB

November 16, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

Rabun, It is your call to voice your displeasure and I promise you there was no one more disappoined after the Fla game and we have more than not been mediocre but I, as a dawg fan, get frustrated when other ‘dawg’ fans call for heads when there are many reasons it’s not called for. You say I wear rose colored glasses, I say I see things very clearly. Go Dawgs!!

By eDAWG

November 16, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

Call me a brat, whiner, or whatever else you want but I’m not now nor will I ever be satisfied with such lackluster play or coaching at UGA. It’s way past time to remove the BLINDERS!! Some of you can’t seem to see the forest for the trees…Wake up for crying out loud!!

By Raleigh

November 16, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

From a recent ABH article: “Welcome to the illogical world of college football in 2008. It’s a ridiculous place.

The state of Alabama is the most toxic environment in college football, filled with over-the-top fans whose empty existences are defined by the success of the teams they support.

That atmosphere creates hero worship for a coach whose team is on a hot streak, but woe be unto the coach whose slumping squad forces its fans to suffer through jeers from co-workers or fellow churchgoers.

Of course, Alabama isn’t alone in that regard. In varying degrees, it’s the same all across the South. Georgia certainly isn’t immune to such absurdity.”

Georgia isn’t immune? This board is proof of the lunacy of a small segment of the UGA “fanbase” who, unfortunately, think that most Georgia supporters think like them (yes, small segment - don’t fool yourself into thinking you’re the majority just because the only people that will hang out with you have the same opinion).

Some of you have selective memory when it comes to UGA’s place in the national picture and how difficult it has been in the past to bring in quality coaches. Ray Goff and Jim Donnan were not Georgia’s top choices - even the guys that ended up talking to - and, in some cases, rejecting - UGA, didn’t garner much enthusiasm (remember Dick Sheridan?).

Now we have a coach who has consistently made UGA into an SEC and national contender and you’re ready to give him an ultimatum to make changes. And don’t bother to follow-up with inane comments about “being happy with mediocrity”. Georgia has NEVER consistently challenged at the level of the last 8 years in its entire football history. Get a grip on reality. And realize that the “rose-colored glasses” problem is with those of you that start each year dreaming of what a national championship could do for your miserable self-esteem. When you have that much of your ego tied up in something that even the best programs win one of every ten years (if they’re very lucky), you’re bound to face some intense disappointment. I feel sorry for you.

The rest of us (i.e., the vast majority)will go into each week pulling for our alma mater (or favorite team, as the case may be) and hoping for victory. When we lose (yes, even when we win sometimes), there will be some questions and judgments made about what could have been different. But I, for one, am extremely happy with the results during Richt’s regime and I’ll gladly offer my support for him to do anything he damn well pleases. It’s too bad the “empty existences” of you people whose support for UGA defines your existence makes that impossible for you. Apparently, you’d rather run off the best thing that’s happened to UGA football in 30 years in the ridiculous HOPE that a national championship would result due to the change. What quality coach would come to a program that runs off Mark Richt - whether it be directly or by making personnel decisions for him?

Last, as a pre-emptive strike: I can “stand the heat” but if you’re really fired up then maybe you can’t. And I realize “this is a blog” which gives me the right to criticize ridiculous comments when I see them.

By eDAWG

November 16, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

Please forgive me for everything I said earlier…I just remembered where I left my rose colored glasses…

By dawgvet

November 16, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this

I assume Grammy is for grammaw and not grammarian. The run-on sentences remind me of the opposition getting into our secondary. The period finally arrives when the end zone does. Go Dawgs!

By Ennis

November 16, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

Truth hurts. Last year you were not as good as you thought. This year you are not as bad as you are acting. The crime last year was that you did not get the opportunity to play USC in the Rose Bowl and was never really measured after beating a down UF team. You all knew that 2 were probable. Every year stands on its own. UT won the year after Peyton left. Joe Cox? Could be majic next year.

By Pago Flyer

November 16, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this

This is easy..as long as Bama and Fl remain in the SEC….the Dawgs will nver win the title.

By Dogbyte

November 17, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

“Raleigh” Thanks for your tome. I was having difficulty getting to sleep. Pre-emptive strike? With what, a pop-gun? And if you find my comments to be ridiculous it gives me hope that I am having better luck reaching the more lucid.

By Michael G.

November 17, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

Of course all dawg fans are not happy with the way the Bama and UF games got away from the team, but the team is still 9-2 and will find a way to win their last 2 games to go 11-2. This year’s UGA team reminds me of last year’s LSU team in that there were 3 games (in addition to the ones they lost) that a play here or there would have gone the other way, Alabama, Florida, Auburn. So I will take the 9-2 thus far and be happy with the games we “escaped” with.

No one wants to hear how young this team is, but the fact remains that we are on our 4th string Left tackle and offensive line combo this year. Stop and think about that. I know we recruit well, but does anyone truly believe our 4th string LT is better consistantly than the other team’s starters? Really? Of course UGA is going to play alot like Dr. Jekyl/Mr. Hyde. They are going to tease us with excellent plays (lead the conference in plays of over 10 + yards) and then infuriate us with special teams breakdowns, bone-head penalties, and a lack of execution in the red-zone. That is what you would expect from a team as young as this one is.

By T-Bone

November 17, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

Dawg fans, we have to man-up and admit that we suck, and that the SEC sucks. CMR is a great man, but his team is undisciplined, on and off the field. We don’t have a quality win this year, for all the reasons Bill mentioned.

And overall the SEC has only two good teams, and we may find out on Dec. 6 that Bama is not all that good. Everybody but Fla would get crushed by half the Big 12 teams, and maybe even teams like Penn St., Ohio St., and USC. Hell, I’m not convinced that UGA or any of the rest of us could beat Boise St. or Utah.

Oh, and Tech is going to run all over us. I would not be surprised if they score 35 points on us. They are scary good. The only way they lose if they beat themselves.

By 82DAWG

November 17, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Raleigh, even though it was a little long-winded, I agree with your thoughts. Everyone is so SPOILED. Because of everyone’s unrealistic expectations these “fans” are upset with a probable 11-2 season. You people are CRAZY! I wish all of you who are grousing and b*** at this season could have endured 1984 to 2000. All you new fans are just plain spoiled and unrealistic.

BTW, Alabama is way younger then Georgia as they have played 16 true freshmen this year. Given their O-Line is not as young, but youth is a given in college football, not an excuse. Coach Searels has been a magician with how quickly he has gotten our line to come together and fill gaps from injury. Cordy Glenn, Chris Davis, Ben Jones, Josh Davis, Clint Boling plus Kiante Tripp and Tanner Strickland - great job guys, keep driving!!!

By 82DAWG

November 17, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

T-Bone, stop whining and enjoy the day. Is negativity all you can see? Can’t you see anything positive in this team? Can’t you see how the young O-Line is coming together? Can’t you see Rennie Curran playing three positions at once to cover for others, can’t you see the beginning development of Justin Houston? Can’t you see the best wide receiver in UGA history? Can’t you see the future NFL pro bowl QB? Can’t you see one the top five RBs in UGA history? Open your eyes and enjoy what we have, not whine and moan over what you wished we did!

By Dennis Green

November 17, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

The DAWGS are who we thought they were.

By bigDAWG

November 17, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Every dawg fan should be happy, but they should also have a few questions about the dawgs. First of all preseason hype or not 9-2 is really good in the SEC, but our coaching has become an issue. I believe that the dawgs need an Erk, we just don’t have a big time motavational guy. Willie needs to step it up, period. Auburn threw the ball to wrs just standing by the out of bounds line and we could not stop them! I still think that with all the injuries we have a good team, but we could be better. Still, uga fans need to just support the team, and quit gripping so much. I mean yeah, I agree our loses have been disapointing, but we all are dawgs and need to just get behind the dawgs all the for the next two games. Lets set the tone for 2009 and make Sanford the loudest ever against Tech!!!!!

By bigDAWG

November 17, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Every dawg fan should be happy, but they should also have a few questions about the dawgs. First of all preseason hype or not 9-2 is really good in the SEC, but our coaching has become an issue. I believe that the dawgs need an Erk, we just don’t have a big time motavational guy. Willie needs to step it up, period. Auburn threw the ball to wrs just standing by the out of bounds line and we could not stop them! I still think that with all the injuries we have a good team, but we could be better. Still, uga fans need to just support the team, and quit gripping so much. I mean yeah, I agree our loses have been disapointing, but we all are dawgs and need to just get behind the dawgs all the for the next two games. Lets set the tone for 2009 and make Sanford the loudest ever against Tech!!!!!

By Matt Stafford

November 17, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Fear Not Dog Nation-

I’m going to bust some of my buddies out of the Athens Pen, crank up some Soulja Boy and lead the dogs to some awesome victories and maybe even get coach richt to get rid of his butt cut haircut. Where is Joe cox when I need him, I’m upset and want to spoon…All UGA playes love to spoon each other and that is a FACT.

By AltamahaDawg

November 17, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Raleigh, “dreaming of what a national championship could do for your miserable self-esteem”. You are my new favorite author. Your best point is about mistakingly believing that the most vocal represent the majority. That’s not normally the case in any subject. In here, you not only have to read what is said, but compare the spirit and tenor.

82 Dawg, good comment. I do think that 19 out of 22 starters on Alabama team are upperclassmen. A senior QB who hold every Bama record has been helpful I’m sure.

By Dawg4Life

November 17, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

The unfortunate truth is that Coach Richt may not be the right guy to match up with the rest of the conference now. Not sure there is a right guy available, at this point, though.

It has also become obvious, when watching the progress of Saban and Meyer, that they have Vince Lombardi-style mindsets and get levels of commitment and focus out of their players that we can only dream about.

Bama and the Gators didn’t just win: They whipped us. They were stronger and tougher in the trenches and popped us in the mouth.

I don’t know how Richt can change his style, or if it’s even possible, especially with players he already has relationships with, but I really believe commitment and focus are the most significant differences between us and the top echelon now. I will concede that the Gator’s talent depth is remarkable right now, but Alabama? Come on. We have the same or better talent across the board, and they can’t come close to matching our top four skill players.

Sorry, but the problem is coaching. And that starts at the top.

By Dawg Fud

November 17, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

a lot of good comments on here, and a lot of foolish ones…

the fact of the matter is that college football fans just want their team to meet expectations.

if your team is pre-season #10, and you finish 9, 10 or 11 then fans are content. it’s all about meeting expectations. Dawg fans do not see that in this year’s team, thus, the comments on this blawg.

regardless if it is right or wrong, that’s the way it is.

GO DAWGS! Rest up and beat Tech!

By mcdawg

November 17, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

the biggest problem for UGA on D has been the absence of J. Owens

coaches have done a great job on Offense

Special Teams WTF????

hopefully close out the season w/ two more wins

By Raleigh

November 17, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Dawg Fud - you’re absolutely right about expectations. The expectations of the Dawgs this year couldn’t have been higher. Of course, SI, AP and Coaches were right, in our opinions, when they ranked us #1 in preseason. The SEC writers didn’t know what they were talking about when they had us 2nd in the East.

Dogbyte - I’m sure you’re very good at handling young men. I think I saw your episode on Dateline.

By Mobile Dawg

November 17, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

We shouldn’t forget the “vocal minority” has the same forum to voice their displeasure and have their opinion heard. We hope they do so with a genuine purpose at heart, not one tainted with anger, hate, resentment, or misrepresentation.

To the contrary belief of some others, I think Richt can be successful with his temperament and personality. I don’t believe this year was a representation of his or the staff’s best effort. IMO, CMR needs to take some time, use all his resources both personal and professional to establish a new “Richt Doctrine” to follow and build this program on. Pass this along to his coaches and players, i.e. this is how we will do business in the future, strengthen the foundation and move forward. Whether we end up 11-2 this year, or something less, most of us will agree there are some areas we would like to see improvement in. We have a wealth of talent, lets add to the reservoir and go forward. We’re all great critics on Monday morning or looking in the rear view mirror.

The voices of reason blogging here are right, we’re in this to deep to make wholesale changes, but we do need to demand some adjustments. Just remember, often times it’s the vocal minority whose voice is heard when things need to be adjusted. When the silent majority sits on their hands and demands no accountability or action we are abdicating our power to the vocal minority.

By Pi$$onaDawg

November 17, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

I am glad we let P. NIX go to Miami, but I hope you guys keep BOBO forever.

By jc_dawgs

November 17, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

At the beginning of this season…there was a lot of 11-1 talk…sec champs and a trip to the bcs national championship game. . For me….I saw 10-2 and Ga possibly not winning the eastern division.

What I did not see was that the 2 losses were going to be big time blow out losses. Losses that simply wont go away no matter how many games you win.

The 10-2 is not a problem. Nor are all the close victories. A victory is a victory. The problem I have is how badly this team got beat in those 2 games.

By PNWDawg

November 17, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

I wonder how many recruits we may lose because they don’t want to play for unreasonable fans.

By Dogbyte

November 17, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Raleigh, do you still put your cloak down in the mud puddles for the queens to walk across, or do you just lie there?

By Wil Walton

November 17, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

…but they did throw the fade.

By AltamahaDawg

November 17, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

What is the deal with calling for John Fabris to be fired. Can we get any more reactionary?

The man has handled our special teams for years and this is first time they have had issues that I recall. Heck, its only been in a few games this year. We were leading the league up till a couple of weeks ago, and the man is now “clueless”?

UGA has ranked right around the top of the SEC and nationaly every year he has been here. Sets school records. Not just here but some of the best squads in the nation at K-state, and Iowa state. Coached in the Nfl. Yes, he DOES have clues.

Nobody mentions punting AU inside the 20 3 times. Or holding the top KO return man on the top KO return team to not much. Not counting the one kick OOB, which thier veteran PK did the exact same thing.

Our freshman PK confirmed what we all knew was the mistake on the blocked FG. The kid is still 4th best in the SEC behind only upperclassmen. UGA has fielded 22 punts this year, and fumbled how many? In the wind at that. Prince has one fumble and one TD, we’ll call that a wash. And give Fabris credit for making the switch to Logan.

How about we just let the staff look at the specific problem and fix it. Not force a man’s wife and kids to pack up, because of a handfull of uncharacteristic plays in an 8 yr span.

Oh yea, he has put 10 DE into the NFL in 7 yrs.

By Oledawg

November 17, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

Fellow and unfellow Dawg Nuts. Good blog to a cruddy article, especially for Raleigh, 82Dawg and Alt (Alt, you are back and forth and sometimes your thought is lost-like weaving in and out of a Palinesque conversation). I liked you better when you weren’t oblique. Those of you supportive are doing so with good facts and unapologetic good passion. You reflect the team. They are just playing college football under tough circumstances. Some say “Yeah, yeah, yeah…we know that we have hurt players” like they will crawl back into the game and start playing again. Not this year. Those that could have have played hurt while others have had to endure season- ending surgery. Some have played hurt and in positions they don’t normally play, but that’s no excuse to some of you who can’t get over your early predictions when they all were healthy. Can you imagine Kiante Tripp’s pain every morning and at practice? I doubt it. You want these kids, some of them one (1) year out of high school and you want them to play like pros just because you say so. And coaches putting together the team with bailing wire just aggravating the hell out of you because they don’t wire their hands together so we can have an unbroken blocking line. Like in the old days. Well, I’ve seen the old days and those coaches would have lost more games than anyone who has been responsible for this team. Sorry folks, but the game has changed and we have coaches here that are responsible for being part of that change on a national scale.

Those of you gripeing about the “upcoming fade pass” should look who is outleaping the opposition to get it- just like they practice it and call for it to be used in the games. Wow, are these coaches lame to know that their talent can outjump their opponent 85% of the time that they throw that “tired ole fade pass that you know is coming”. The cheek of these guys!! But, I confess that I’m too stupid to catch on because I’m old, voted for Obama and NEVER PLAYED COLLEGE BALL! I’m proud of the last part of that sentence because I didn’t get my brain detached like some of you who have played football but don’t show that you learned very much.

Many of us trending on the positive aspects of the team have the same feelings during a game as many of you trending on the perceived negative aspects of the team. We all love the Dawgs. It hurts to see another stop on 3rd down get blown and the frustration is so much that we even wring our hands and shout at the players as if they can hear us. But that has been going on for all the years that I have watched the Dawgs. We seemed to have done that forever whenever we played So. Car., especially at Columbia. You ole Dawgs should remember how frustrated we got with Dooley on his last minute decisions in that game (game time management cost us a game or two). But that doesn’t compare to wearing a Bulldog shirt and writing this negative column. First, I’d rather see King bare chested than our name on his shirt. How about a blog to get him to put it (and any others that are in his possession) up for bids and give the money to a charity selected by “his” Dawgs. Turn about is fair play.

By Oledawg

November 17, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Altamaha—Great! You’re back to your ripper-snapper self using all those good stats. Good man.

By Phil

November 17, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

Very good points Bill. We need some discipline on this team. That’s the difference between a Mark Richt team and a Nick Saban team. Stupid late hit penalties, there is no need for that. Yet we have 2 or 3 a game seems like. Richt doesn’t do a damn thing about it.

Yes, 9-2 is good. But once again, we are not even in the SEC Championship game. We have too much talent not to be. We were not even competitive against Florida and Alabama, that’s the discouraging part of it. Richt did not do his job in getting the team prepared.

So what if we win 10 games a year? We want to get to the SEC Championship game and compete for SEC titles. I am not going to be satisfied with just winning 10 games.

We are consistently in the top 10 in recruiting. We are poised to compete for national championships at this point. I’m not sure Richt is the man to get us there, I’m going to be honest with you.

By Jack

November 17, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Just remember ” WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAAAAAAAAR!!!!!!!!!!! 38 years and counting?

By AltamahaDawg

November 17, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

mobile dawg, one of the things that I appreciate about Coach Richt is that he has shown extreme humility for a man in his position. I’ve never seen him back away from fault or be unwilling to address something for the better.

He stepped down from Playcalling which was an uncomfortable thing to do when he recognized the need to see the bigger picture during the game. Dropped passes comes to mind as something that seems to have been an issue that got addressed.

I would bet my big toe, they have and will spend countless hours trying to identify this penalty issue. I think a lot of the other things we have seen this year will improve with a few more warm bodies.

I do disagree that if fans don’t point thing out to him, he might not know it. The man knows, lives, and breaths the issue on this team long before any of us noticed them.

By Oledawg

November 17, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

How do some of you think Richt and Martinez feel when ofttimes the players get excited, forget their training and blow plays? Not very good. Now, stack on top of that a few egos that think that they can coach better than the best coach in the nation. I posted a challenge the other day and got one reply that demonstrated the challenger did’nt read carefully(as I sometimes don’t). It challenged the naysayers to name a replacement for these coaches. Nothin’. One of the posters named Saban and Crier after I stated that we have beaten the reigning natl champs 2 yrs in a row. Why in hell would we want their scurrilous asses coaching Georgia players? That poster became suspect that he was on here for the vicarious thrill and wasn’t a Dawg. No Dawg would post such a thing. I don’t want crap that Bama and FU have. And if some of you don’t believe I’m serious, you won’t believe the next statement. We will flatass beat both those jerks next year. It won’t matter who we have as players.

Do some of you naysayers think your ego feeding will do anything for the team this year? Let’s hear it. Next year? Maybe run off a recruit or two. Some of your insensitivity here just makes us insensitive toward your blogging. Hasn’t the fact that Richt and Martinez(And his players) have acknowledged that they received your criticisms and found you wanting, sensitized you to the reading audience of these blogs? The cautions toward recruit influencing is not a benign one. Some of you posturing jerks are NOT Bulldogs. Get lost and take King with you.

Someone posted early that don’tgocoaches.com is up. And none too soon.

It’s time to get our mad on for the bugs. How about some outragious stories of past years to keep us going. Remember that Ball is no longer there to play for us.

Dawgs! One and all!

By Dogbyte/ Truth hurts

November 17, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

I post under both of these sobriquets depending on my mood. I have NEVER, under either, called for anyone to be fired. What I have called for is teaching better fundamentals, particularly tackling. Our tackling-in the secondary, for sure—is terrible. Playing “soft” coverage and then tackling “soft” allows the other teams too many yards per play. And I AM NOT one of those whose expectations were too high. I thought we were ranked too high at the end of last season and at the 1st of this one. I EXPECTED us to lose 1 or 2 games but, as someone above said, not in the way we lost them. Yes, a win is a win(even a close one) but too many of them—as we have had this year—shows the lack of a “killer instinct” which we NEED to play on the level of Ala. and Fla. What is disloyal about what I have said? I’m just calling ‘em as I see ‘em. Finally, I have been a loyal dawg longer than many of you have been alive; I bleed red and black and I’ll be a loyal dog so long as I breathe. That doesn’t mean I can’t be critical. Oh, one other thing. Someone took a shot at me for talking about “managing and handling young men”. I did this for 26 years in the USMC and did it well enough to be given a citation by YOUR President and YOUR Congress. Thank y’all.

By AltamahaDawg

November 17, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

eh Oledawg, what can I say, mixing it up.

By Oledawg

November 17, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

You are still a crappy analyzer, Jarhead.

By Dogbyte/ Truth hurts

November 17, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Can you teach Oledawgs new tricks? In that case, SIT(on this). :>)

By AltamahaDawg

November 17, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Dogbyte, the problem with somebody who tries to be rational and just call for improvement or even legit critisism of issues, is that they get lost in the barrage of insanity of lets fire somebody in all capital letters. If the first nine times didn’t get a direct response from Athens, lets go all bold type and say the same thing 4 more times a day.

I’ve personally never questioned anyone “fandom” because of passion. Thier facts and logic sometimes to be sure.

I have suggested before, that if somebody doesn’t think that they have said anything that would lead somebody to conclude they were not a loyal Dawg fan, they shouldnt get offended when those that do say such things, gets called on it. Everyone knows the difference.

Do what I do. Ignore that. I never even give a second thought to the “rose colored delusional” comments or “blind homer” because I know better. And don’t care if they don’t.

BTW, you asked why we had a Curran covering Tate in that situation. I’m sure you have asnswer your own question by now.

By Dogbyte/ Truth hurts

November 17, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

AltamahaDawg—Thanks for a “rational” response. And I don’t expect everyone to agree with me. Just, as you say, don’t question my loyalty to the dawgs and realize that I trust our present coaches to get the job done.

Yes, I got my answer on Curran but if he can cover in that case why not move him(in the “off” season)to safety? It would give us a “hitter” back there and ultimately would do him a favor. I don’t think he is big enough to play LB in the NFL.

By Oledawg

November 17, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

I don’t know how a kid can play a game as fast as players are in the SEC. And when their body is going one way, reach back and get a hand on the man with the ball that they barely detect by vision and most times by instinct out of the corner of their eye. And it appears “soft” when they are not planted and still get an arm around them to slow them for the next player. You can characterize hard working players anyway you want, but I wouldn’t use “soft”, Jarhead. You need to Tivo the games and examine in slow-mo before you use that epithet on anyone. Now some of these players may be challenged to learn all the plays when in a different playing position as many of them have been this year but I’ll bet their IQs would be acceptable to your Marines.Let’s give them a break and assume they are playing their guts out to win every time they are lucky enough to get on the field. I personally don’t care for remarks that make you more strident about winning than the players playing the game. No more than I would say that you are “soft” for only putting in 26 yrs.

These comments are meant for some of you to reread your postings every once in a while and get a good laugh at how serious we all make this sound. Jarhead! AT EASE!!

By Mobile Dawg

November 17, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Altamaha, I’ve always been one to give the benefit of the doubt, I remember us talking last year about how CMR was progressing and growing as a HC.

I agree it was a tough thing giving up the play calling. In the back of my mind though I wonder if his decision was influenced or expedited by the swell of Dawg Nation’s opinion that he was disconnected from other aspects of the game with the scope of the offensive responsibilities. I recall a lot of comments and conversation prior to his decision.

This year was a step back for the program, with a multitude of issues, IMO. I agreed with Oledawgs diagnosis of my mental anguish a few days back, we have to be careful with our feelings and seperate them from our comments. I do however think “Constructive Criticism” of the program can be beneficial, it can stimulate thinking and action if necessary on some ocassions. I see a lot of areas where things need to be addressed. If you look at things objectively you have to dig for the problem. People say penalties are the problem, they’re not, they’re a symptom of the problem. Is a lack of discipline the reason for the penalties? Yes, Is lack of discipline the problem, no, it’s another symptom. Why is there a lack of discipline? All these questions have to be answered until we get to the root of the problem or problems.

I sincerely want you to keep your big toes and I’m sure Richt and Team will do as you said, spend countless hours, I just hope they keep asking the right questions until they reach the root of the problems. Once they figure out the root causes of the problem the tough part starts. I know, we may be 11-2 at the end of the year and that’s damn good, but solve some of these problems and we may be 13-0 next year and NC’s….

By swamp chomper

November 17, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

I love it all. The redneck barking, the blackouts, the bragging, Knowshon hurdling a crappy defender and taking himself out of games. He celebrates like a jackasss early in the season. Not so much now…What a pituful football program. No talent coaching and athletes who underperform. I hope you enjoyed your preseason hype at least. And think, this was your year! It is only going to get worse without major changes. Or keep your coach and bark bark bark….all the way to mediocrity again. If Tech whips you I am willing to bet Richt and crew are gone. don’t think it can’t happen.

By Dogbyte/ Truth hurts

November 17, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

Eat a swamp.

By Oledawg

November 17, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

Altamaha-Mixing AND stirring, you mean. Yeah, you have to always be prepared to get as you give, but what the hell, the Dawgs are the important subject here, not us. Most everybody understands that, but you get a damn Bug on here from time to time who dress themselves like Dawgs and fool some of the best fans. Sometimes its hard to tell the difference.

By Oledawg

November 17, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

Well, well, well. Flushed out an FU interloper, eh? If you Dawgs want to read something funny, go to FU’s Orange and Blue Hue. Now, there are some future ball coaches of the NFL variety bloggin’ there. I call it the Orange and blu hooey. Those jerks will make you thankful to be a Dawg and watch them quote what we want to hear! “We ain’t gon’ ever git over that dance in the end zone”. Good!! It gives us pleasure every time you let us know how we displeasured your sorry asses and the “nightmares” you have over it. Go suck an egg, lizard.

By DixieUmp

November 17, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

Who taught the defense how to tackle? Count the number of times this year a defensive player tries to tackle by using his helmet and or should pads to knock a runner down instead of squaring up to the runner, wrapping up with his arms and driving the runner to the ground.

By Oledawg

November 17, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

Mobile Dawg- Good questions. I have a mixed coondawg that looks like a Doberman. She stands tall and has small ears. She is an Alpha female. She sports a choke collar 90% of the time because it is required. She doesn’t even act as if it’s there after 4 yrs. After breaking all the screens several times on a 46ft screened porch in order to “jailbreak” and flaunt her freedom and tease you within 4ft distances for you to attempt to catch her, I made a “Stalag 17” out of the porch using hardware cloth and rabbit wire. She and the other true black and tan coonhound are both housepets, but with living qtrs also on the porch where they can play Sentry Dogs!!! when we leave them. Still, when you open the housedoor to let them on the porch, the Alpha dog will do a jail break at full speed and take out the screen door. Five times.

So, I bought her a shock collar with hand control to teach basic commands. Now, she may be a “galoot”, but she will heel and do every thing you want to teach her. But the thing is, I don’t want a “cowed” or shy dog that pees every time I raise my voice. She is smart to get her way and she caught on quickly, but I felt like hell because using a shock collar is an admission of defeat on my part. I took to turning it off before we went for a walk and it took her 4 days flat to figure it out and run off to “galoot” some more. I don’t have the heart to hit her with the current anymore and break her spirit. She would not be a fit dog if she wasn’t an Alpha female as she was born. So I trust that she will obey my commands to “Heel”, “Sit” or “Go to Bed” and be the dog I want, but I know the first chance she gets, she will disapoint me and run off “galooting” again.

Richt has prepared our Dawgs to respond to training in the same manner, but rather than have a compliant player who doesn’t have the backbone to dish it out when need be, he relies on each one to understand the psychological impact of their actions on and off the field as benefits the team. And leaves each on their same recognizance to know when to obey and when to flatten someone’s a* or protect their teammate on and off the field. Sometimes they just “galoot” to flex their freedom and forget the team. Which of these kinds of players do we want? The compliant ones with their nuts cut off or the ones that “galoot” every once in a while and don’t take crap from anyone? I think Richt doesn’t want to deprive them as youngsters from experiencing college and remaining good players who can make mistakes. I’ll take his ability to handle youngsters becoming men well over other coaches who denigrate their players to become machines in order that the alums and fans can be happy. When they leave us , they will still be our Bulldogs for life. And Alums who keep recruiting for you forever.

By Oledawg

November 17, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

And their Bulldog spirit will be indominable.

By realtycheck was correct

November 17, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

“D” does win championships…as in not for dogs this year.

By Oledawg

November 17, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

….or they could be stupid.

By AltamahaDawg

November 17, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this

Yea, the penalties are a mystery, but I think its a bit like the pass drops before. It’s not that they happen as much as they just came at the worst possible time. Symptom? Sure. Not sure we are on the same page as to what. Same staff, same routine, I can’t see there being this one year skipping of the discipline lesson. My guess…..the biggest thing they will do in the offseason is improve the situations that put them at risk of committing the penalties in the first place. A better pass rush, puts your DB under less stress. A more mature O-line not getting beat as much. I think even the stupid penalties would subside with less overall frustrations in the “game playing”.

By Mobile Dawg

November 17, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

All of the above Oledawg. I’ve got a 26 year old son that sounds a lot like your alpha female. I can honestly look in the mirror every morning with good conscience and tell myself I did all I could. The only thing that could ever straighten him out was himself.

There’s no one pattern or approach capable of covering every kid, circumstance, or problem. I believe the more you plan for adversity the more chance you stand of success, and you never give up. I’m getting ready to help him start a business, hopefully with good planning and hard work it will be successful, I will be a major shareholder, and retire happily as an Oledawg….

By AltamahaDawg

November 17, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

Dogbyte, so more like a Thomas Davis LB turned bone cruncher DB, huh? I like it, but no way we could have spared him at LB this year.

By Mobile Dawg

November 17, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this

Hope your right Alt, I’m not giving up, I stil got some “galootin” ta do….

By D'Marcus Jefferson, Kappa Alpha pledge at UGA

November 17, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

Some things never change at UGA..try to be an academic powerhouse but all you are is Gambling money taken from the Poor and Minorities….aka Hope Scholarship…..No matter how you slice it and dice it….its all about JAWWWJA FUUUTBALL…a bunch of rednecks!! So much preseason #1 HYPE…WHAT A JOKE!!!

By BE#3

November 17, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

Dogbyte/ Truth hurts @ November 17, 2008 5:24 PM………..Remember a guy named Jessie Tuggle? A 5 time Pro Bowler? The Hammer was listed at 5’11” 230 lbs. Rennie Curran is listed at 5’11” 228 lbs. as a soph. Go tell Rennie that he cannot play LB in the NFL.

By Dr. Morpheus

November 17, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

“For every complex human problem, there is a simple solution… and it’s wrong.” H.L. Mencken

Listen up, whiners, I’m with Corey Irvin on this one. These posts are pathetic- with few exceptions, each writer has a different simplistic explanation for why Georgia is “underperforming,” and BIll, unfortunately, set the tone for the self-pitying moan-a-thon. Yet Bill is just resonating with the complainers (you may wish to subsitute another verb phrase for ‘resonating with’). Georgia is on the verge of a 10 or 11 win season and everyone seems to feel entitled to a perfect season where nothing goes drastically wrong, as if the team blowing one is a personal insult to each one of you wounded geniuses of post-hoc analysis. And what exactly did you do to deserve the national title this year? I thought LSU fans had ridiculous expectations for their TIgers (even last year when they ultimately won the BCS trophy) but you poor, pitiful UGA ‘fans’ have sunk to their level this year. To go all the way requires one major ingredient we haven’t had this year- a few lucky breaks (or maybe it’s Divine Intervention) at the right moments. That’s because even the greatest coaches and athletes can’t control everything that goes into winning and losing. What if there is no brilliant and simple explanation for the two fiascoes we suffered this year? What if they just happened? But you need someone to blame because you can’t accept that sometimes it just doesn’t go like you hoped despite our starting Spring practice with outstanding talent. But, you need a scape goat, so which one of you football gurus is “right?’ Who deserves the “blame?” I tell you what, you can blame me. It’s all my fault.

Now, let’s move on. I’m proud of the team for coming through in the face of major disappointments and a lot of self-absorbed criticism from so-called fans and self-appointed pundits. Congrats to Matt Stafford, MoMass, Knowshon, Rennie Curran, Corey Irvin, and everyone who hasn’t quit. Ignore the whiners and beat Tech! Your real fans are behind you.

By Bob

November 17, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

Great teams (and people in general) don’t measure themselves against others, but against what they know they can do.

Our team could be in the national title, and could be dominating other teams. We’re not, and the record does not change that. We’re not doing what we could be doing, and that is disappointing.

No more damn excuses.

By AltamahaDawg

November 17, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

Bob, just factually wrong. First of all this is not a great team, so how does that even apply? And Freshman O-line just simply do not dominate other teams, they just don’t. And our D is not capable of doing that either. If by “could” you ignore could not, great point.

By AltamahaDawg

November 17, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this

Mobile, it looked to me that the last penalty was worth every yard. Allen probably saved the game by pushing the guy out.

By Dawgfan80

November 18, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

While we didn’t meet the high expectations set at the begining of this year, we could still end strong! We need Stafford and Moreno back to finish the drill behind a healthy deep o-line in 2009. Don’t go to the NFL, come back one more season.

Please sign the guest book for Matthew and Knowshon at (www.dontgodawgs.com)

By robdawg08

November 18, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

I just read your blog Bill and I couldn’t agree more. I guess last minute game saving plays by the defense is good to Corey Irvin and Mark Richt. It would be good if it were against Alabama and Florida not against Kentucky and Auburn. Now they want to blame the fans that are let down by their lackluster performances ? Hilarious. I guees its our fault that the Dawgs were coming off last year when everyone (even the geeky Techsters) agreed either UGA or USC were the best two teams going into the BCS games. That was with the same Stafford,Moreno,and Massoquai that was supposed to be better and smarter after gaining more experience. I can agree that the injuries on the OL hurt a lot. But all I heard about in the offseason was about the great UGA defense. Its not even a good defense. I think my high school could score 21 points on them and they didn’t even make the playoffs in AAA. The pass rush is non existant. QB’s have all day to find open receivers on most passing plays. This team should beat Tech 38-10 but I’m sure it will be something like 41-38 due to the weak UGA defense. While they are searching for new D-lineman in high school please find another kicker too. Its disgusting to watch a kicker miss 21 yarders and kick the ball to the 15 yd. line on kickoffs. We need a kicker that can kick 50 yarders and kick it out of the end zone on kickoffs. Does K.Butler,B. Coutu,etc. ring a bell ? Scour the nation M.Richt. There’s probably the very kicker we need kicking bombs in Kansas with Dorothy and Toto…

By Dan

November 18, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

1980 Georgia Bulldogs Football Schedule & Results Final Record: 12-0, 6-0 (SEC) NATIONAL CHAMPIONS, SEC CHAMPIONS Date Opponent Result 09/06/80 at Tennessee Volunteers Won 16-15 09/13/80 Texas A&M Aggies Won 42-0 09/20/80 Clemson Tigers Won 20-16 09/27/80 Texas Christian Horned Frogs Won 34-3 10/04/80 Open Date N/A 10/11/80 Ole Miss Rebels Won 28-21 10/18/80 Vanderbilt Commodores Won 41-0 10/25/80 at Kentucky Wildcats Won 27-0 11/01/80 South Carolina Gamecocks Won 13-10 11/08/80 Florida Gators (Jacksonville, FL) Won 26-21 11/15/80 at Auburn Tigers Won 31-21 11/22/80 Open Date N/A 11/29/80 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Won 38-20 1981 Sugar Bowl (New Orleans, LA) 01/01/81 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Won 17-10

Here are scores and schedule from 1980 - look at the games won by 7 or less. Winning is winning!!!

By robdawg08

November 18, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Dan, translating your 1980 season to this 2008 season : The 2008 Crimson Tide and Gators are 1980 Tennessee and Notre Dame. And the 2008 K.Wildcats and AU Tigers are the 1980 K.Wildcats and Horned Frogs. But the 2008 Dawgs ain’t the 1980 Dawgs.

As many have said, the dumb personal foul penalties should be addressed immediately by benching that player. I’ve seen other college and NFL coaches do it. M. Singletary of the 49ers benched Vernon Davis just two weeks ago. I’ve come to expect a 15 yarder personal foul penalty after every defensive play.

By Dogbyte

November 18, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

Close wins are fine. Blow-out losses are not fine. Is that so difficult to understand? If so, here is where we start: A-B-C-D-E-F…

By jaybird

November 18, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

The old saying is “it ain’t x’s and o’s, it’s Jimmys and Joes” fits our Bulldogs to a t. The fact is we don’t match up well with Alabama this year because our offense and in particular our defensive line just is not good enough to win the battle up front with the Tide. As far as Florida goes, the talent isn’t the issue, but the Gators had an ax to grind and when you miss field goals, give there offense a short field, and have a few calls go against you, you are going to get beat badly.

Coach Martinez drives me nuts with the cover 2, but when you can’t bring pressure with the front 4 your only options are to roll the dice and blitz or to hope that your defense can make a play before the other team sticks it in there.

As far as Bobo is concerned, he studies way more tape, knows the personnel better, and has a far better insight into the offense than any of us do. Do I agree with all his play calls? Nope. But we sure do score a heck of a lot of points, don’t we?

I hate that we’re going to the third best bowl offered to the SEC. But at least we are not getting “layed” and saying “Aloha” as we’ve done a couple of times in the last 10 years. We a significant drop is third best in our conference, it speaks to the level CMR and his staff has gotten us to to.

My advice is to look back at the past and be thankful for where we are at.

By Mobile Dawg

November 18, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

I’d buy you a beverage on that penalty Altamaha, if you’re beat and you know it a penalty is the mark of a smart player.

By Florida Dawg

November 18, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

To the person who wants to point out the 1980 team results and how we won…well this is the next Century…year 2008 and should I point out the margin of victory for Florida??? Alabama??? A win is not a win anymore….when you get the crap beat out of you, people don’t forget. Little is mentioned about Florida’s “1” point loss…to Ole Miss. Where are these top recruiting classes? How is Florida and Alabama doing it??

By The Big Bug

November 19, 2008 3:24 AM | Link to this

Mobile Dawg:

You are correct sir! That is precisely why “spot-of-the-foul”should be called. It is just wrong to be rewarded for a foul! What fools make these rules! I could go on all night but I’m not going to. These kind of rules have spoiled many games for all of us.

By johnny

November 19, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Bill, I sat here and almost tried to put into words the EXACT toughts of this article. Good job. Next year is a repeat without some changes.

By BannedDawgPostFan

November 19, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

ACCOUNTABILITY

Our DEFENSE is ranked near the bottom of the SEC while our OFFENSE is near the top or leading the SEC in total yardage IN SPITE OF NUMEROUS OFFENSIVE LINE INJURIES

THAT SAID… my question is why is criticism of Willie (the can’t scheme) Martinez unwarranted???

FACTS ARE THE FACTS and emotions are just that EMOTIONS

By Willie Martinez

November 19, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

I will get some head coaching offers this summer…

By Jerry Dawg

November 19, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Yes, 9-2 is is not bad. I’m sure we would feel better about it if we were competive in at least on of our two losses or if some of the teams we had beaten had not underachieved as well or if we had at least adminstered a severe beat down to at least ONE of our opponents from a BCS conference or if we didn’t have has high of expectations. That being said, you do have to admire the character of the team to find a way to win the last two when a lot of teams in the same exact position would have lost.

Our problems cannot be attributed to just one person. Everyone should be held accountable. However, the biggest issue is Martinez. I have noticed on several occasions Fabris having to coach the defense and even Richt. This should not be happening and if Martinez was doing his job would not be happening. With Fabris being our special teams coach, these extended duties have caused him to not focus on the special teams as much which in turn has hur us in this area. the same can be said about Richt having to coach the defense. It has taken away from his duties as the head coach which are more looking at the big picture and keeping the players focused and motivated. It has also left Bobo more alone in running the offense, which had Richt not had to be more involved in the defense, he could be working with the relatively new offensive coordinator in play calling, which is what I always believed to be his intent when he turned those duties over to Bobo last year. So as you can see this lack of defensive performance has inadvertantly affected other areas of the game.

In short, we would be crazy to fire Richt and I think it would also be crazy to fire Bobo at this point. Martinez, on the other hand, has got to go. Far too many times (and not just this year) our defense has vastly under performed during his tenure as the defensive coordinator. His defenses have too many times looked unprepared in games and they have also seemed very unfocused in the fundamentals as well as playing smart. It’s time for us to get a defensive coordinator who will instill these things and CMR and CJF can concentrate on other areas.

By Casual Observer

November 19, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

NEWS FLASH you lost to the #1 ranked team in the country. You lost to the #3 ranked team in the country. Are you GA fans that expectant of a great season that you run the table? Now you are talking about firing coordinators and such. In MHO the expectations were missplaced from the offseason. A #1 ranking was overkill. Stafford for Heisman was overkill. Look around the country and get a grip. The pups are not and were not that good to be in that discussion. Reality is a Defense that cant make stops when needed. A Special teams unit that is porous. A Offense that when its good its good, but when its bad its awful.That does not reek of Natl Championship.

Btw I am a die hard Gator Fan but, I dont hate the pups. Strong dislike but not hate. i just see it as some of you guys have unrealistic expectations. Its easy going from 6 and 7 win seasons to 9 and 10 win seasons. Its very hard going from 10 win seasons to Natl Championship discussion every year. CMR has the foundation and the building blocks in place. It’ll happen just not soon enough for the pup-nation.

oh yeah Tebow just scored again followed by a Urban Meyer Time Out. Lastly, for you diehard fans get yourself ready for a Tech upset. I cant wait to see the reaction.

By Mobile Dawg

November 19, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Casual, your news sources let you down. The Dawgs do have the talent to play with anyone in the country. You’re another uneducated idiot just trying to aggitate someone. Don’t come here looking to build your ego at someone elses expense.

I can break the UF game down and see where we lost it, easily. Poor play calling in the Red Zone early, a penalty negating a turnover, a terrible call for an onsides kick, and missing a couple of chip shot field goals. These aren’t excuses, they’re facts. Some poor decision making and some breaks. Then I could go on about poor calls, etc. but won’t. You guys got out of Jax with a gift, wrapped by UGA Coaching, the Officials, and some breaks. Period. Hats off to your Coach, he played a “very conservative first half” as we should have, then we self distructed. Nothing to do with talent, hope our guys learned something. If we line up again tomorrow, the results would be different probably.

We lost the Bama game because we weren’t psychologically prepared for the physical nature of the game. Had we come to play Toe to Toe with Bama, we still might have gotten beat but we wouldn’t have been run off the field the first half. Couple that lousy preperation with some more bad play calling, and lousy breaks and you have a similar result to the UF game. The difference in the two losses was Bama was way more physical than your boys. Congrats on the win, but your atheletes weren’t superior physically.

Can’t wish either team good luck in the SECCG, but will pull for either to win the NC if they are so positioned.

A Bama loss to AU, then a win over UF could put either teams chances of an NC in jepordy.

By RLP

November 19, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

I have a suggestion for the SEC and Big 12. Forget about the BCS and reach an agreement between the two best conferences in the nation that the champions of the two conferences will meet in the Sugar Bowl every year to determine the best team between the two leagues. I bet eventually such an agreement will become the first step in reaching a playoff system. In the interim the sports fans in this country will recognize the winner as the national champion based on the fact that the winner was decided on the field of play.

By The Big Bug

November 19, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

RLP:

Why shouldn’t the two or three conferences ranked above the SEC be allowed to play for the NC? Come back when you can make a logical point.

By AltamahaDawg

November 20, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

Jerry, you do realize that Fabris is the defensive ends coach, right?

By longtimeSEC FAN

November 20, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

TO Mobile Dawg and others of his ilk- Sure, bad coaches, bad refs, bad breaks, etc did it all-and 49-10 is a “gift”- eliminate all the above and the score would have been 35-3 or there about. Any objective appraiser would say “We have good coaches and a good team but we lost to two better teams who may or may not be great teams-yet to be determined” Go Gators”””

By AltamahaDawg

November 20, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

No SEC FAN, gator win, but some of those “gifts” were 10-14 point swings. 35-20 is a more reasonble assumption.

By Eric Zeier

November 20, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Like I told you folks years ago…..

Georgia fans are passionate, but let’s face it, they’re not the brightest people in the world. Passionate, but not bright.”

By arvin teheng

November 20, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

Please read this. This is being hypocritical…

Stewart Mandel of SI answered this question.

How can Southern Cal make it to the BCS title game when they do not even win their own conference? Isn’t that the reason why Georgia didn’t make the title game last year? — William Buyck, St. Matthews, S.C.

Every year is different, and while it’s true that Georgia’s failure to win its own division ultimately doomed its BCS title chances last season, that wasn’t due to some unilateral decree. Georgia was being compared head-to-head with a team from its own conference, LSU, that had won the very league title game to which Georgia failed to qualify. Pretty hard to argue with that logic. Michigan also fell victim to the same argument the year before, though I believe that was due more to its inferior résumé when compared with Florida’s.

Fast forward to 2008. First of all, USC will be considered its conference’s co-champion even if Oregon State goes to the Rose Bowl, but that’s beside the point. The Trojans will likely be docked regardless for their weak conference competition.

The more interesting team is Texas. As of today, it appears the Longhorns — much like Georgia — might not reach their conference championship game. But if Missouri upsets Oklahoma or Texas Tech in the Big 12 title game, the ‘Horns will be sitting there at 11-1, ranked in the top three and sporting a better résumé than all but the SEC champion.

Do we automatically apply the same disqualifier to Texas as we did to Georgia? Or do we accept that in this case they’re the most deserving team?

Last year everyone who didn’t think UGA deserved a shot at the NC said they couldnt go because they did not even win their conference championship. How can they now change that logic this year. Bunch of crap I say.

By Pago Flyer

November 20, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this

Not so sure the DAWGS really want gt!

By jerry

November 21, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

For the last 22 years Georgia has been in the business of putting lipstick on a pig vis a vis Florida. For the last 22 years Florida has been wiping that lipstick off that pig. And Florida has to recruit in state against Florida State and Miami while Georgia only competes in state against Georgia Tech who does not even recruit many of the same players as Georgia does. If Georgia was 100 yards behind Florida before Richt, it would appear they are pretty close to 100 yards behind now. Every coach who coached against Bear Bryant knew x’s and o’s. But they could not inspire their players like the Bear could. This seems to be a common trait among great coaches. It appears that there is not a coach on the Georgia staff capable of truly inspiring the team. Something must change or get ready for the makeup artist.

By Gator sadist

November 21, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

This scrimmage against Georgia Southern and passed off as a football game is sadism. Do you pound your pud while you are watching a tape of an inferior opponent being pounded? That’s what I do when I watch a dog/Gator tape.

By Oledawg

November 21, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Of course you “pound your pud”. That’s why we have always known you as “FU jackoffs”.

By Dogbyte

November 21, 2008 7:58 PM | Link to this

Let me ask you pud-pullers a question. Suppose we had beaten Ala. and Fla. and then lost to Tech. Would that have made this a “better” season? Why hell no! Any season in which we beat Tech is at least mildly successful. This one can be even more. So get over it and yell to hell with Ga. Tuck loud and clear.

By Your Boss

November 23, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

It may not happen this Saturday but it won’t be much longer before you all acknowledge that Paul Johnson is a dam good coach and that you all wish he was your coach.

Tell Richt to “Can the Tan” and focus more on football.

By hatfieldgeoff

November 24, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

Hey Joel P.,

You need to get off the Old Days were Always good bit. You say “Vince Dooley wouldn’t put up with this,” here is the reality. Vince Dooley was a good administrator of the football program, but as an on field coach he was average at best. The “Dump Dooley” stickers of 1974 hadn’t worn off most bumpers when the Wonder Dogs of 1978 went 9-2 to take some pressure off Dooley (though they did lose their bowl game to an inferior team with a better coach, namely Bill Walsh)but that season was sandwiched between 5-6 and 6-5 years that showcased Vince’s average coaching ability. If Hershel had gone to Clemson its doubtful Vince would have made it through 1982, was if Vince hadmade any effort to incorporate a serious passing game into his offense. We probably would have won the NC in 81 or 82 and maybe both. Mark Richt is not perfect but he is light-years ahead of Dooley. All this being said, willie Martinez has got to go, their are a dozens of great young defensive minds out their chomping at the bit for a chance to prove themselves with the talent UGA attracts. Let’s hire one and give him a chance.

By Michael Vasilakis

November 24, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

has anyone seen this www.firemarkricht.net?????

By 77DAWG

December 7, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this

The more times we let it pass by, the 30, 40 points people scored on us will look more and more OK. This is played directly into CMR hand. He will keep his buddy as long as he can sharm himself around Atheletic Department and some (losers) dogs fans. I am preparing myself for another heart-brocken season next year. Damn! I just don’t know the true purpose of CMR here at UGA. One thing for sure, he love his buddy Willy more than the football program he run. If UGA can play D like Ole Miss, So. Cal KU, … and whoever can play ball, we won’t get kill like those 5 - 6 embarassing games.

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