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By chazz

February 17, 2009 8:00 AM | Link to this

What about Fran Tarkenten (sp)? He is the only Dawg QB to have a successful pro career, and he won a couple of games at UGA.

By Sam Robards

February 17, 2009 8:14 AM | Link to this

I have to say Greene is the best. Simply, he won more games and, unlike Stafford, won an SEC Championship. Yeah, he doesn’t have a National Title, but getting to the NC Game is as much luck as it is anything else.

I mean, if you took the 2002 Georgia squad and put them in the 2007 season, they’d have the National Title; however, since there were two undefeated BCS teams in 2002 (before bowl season), we didn’t get the shot.

Greene also had leadership that I didn’t really see from Stafford. He got people to gel and work together. Stafford, as good as he is, just didn’t do that.

By GW

February 17, 2009 8:17 AM | Link to this

Just pure QBing…Stafford. Too bad he and Zeier played on teams with defenses that left a lot to be desired. Greene, like Belue, won a lot of games because there was a complete team around him.

By Pago Flyer

February 17, 2009 8:23 AM | Link to this

We’re more concerned about how well they do at Georgia than the NFL.

By GeoffDawg

February 17, 2009 8:32 AM | Link to this

You can’t base this comparison on any one stat alone. Obviously, the intangibles that Greene brought to the table were invaluable and the fact that he’s the winningest QB in college football history is a fact that’s very difficult to discount. Objectively speaking though, is winning is the only measure, you could argue that John Parket Wilson is a better QB than Stafford this year and we all know what a bunch of hooey that would be. I also agree with GW - while QB is the most important position, it’s still a team game. I don’t think Zeier’s contributions should be overlooked at all just because he played with some defenses that resembled a wet paper bag.

By PBR=America in a can

February 17, 2009 8:52 AM | Link to this

Eric Zeier would have won a national championship if he had had a defense. The years he started were whoever had the ball last won.

By Mikejones

February 17, 2009 9:03 AM | Link to this

Fran Tarkenton; NFL Hall of Famer

By DawgFan

February 17, 2009 9:10 AM | Link to this

Look at what Stafford did for UGA and look at what Greene did for UGA. As much as I love Stafford, he will be forgotten simply because he did nothing for Georgia. Unlike Stafford, Greene put trophies in our trophy case. What did Stafford do? A #1 draft pick (hopefully!) and a successful NFL career (hopefull) means nothing for UGA.

By KennyP

February 17, 2009 9:11 AM | Link to this

If you can call Frank Sinkwich a QB (over 2200 yards passing, and over 2200 yards rushing in his 3-year career) he may have been the best. 2-time All-American, Heisman Trophy winner, joins the Marines for a stint, and then goes on to win an NFL MVP. Different kind of athlete in a different kind of time, but he was a man among boys

By Chastrav

February 17, 2009 9:16 AM | Link to this

It’s about championships and wins. Stafford underperformed and underdelivered on both counts versus his hype and potential. Here’s hoping Cox has a Shockley-type of season this year too.

By GeoffDawg

February 17, 2009 9:20 AM | Link to this

I have to disagree with you DawgFan - a successful NFL career for Stafford is beneficial to UGA from a recruiting and marketing standpoint. It’ll pay dividends down the line.

By drugdawg

February 17, 2009 9:28 AM | Link to this

The best QB I’ve ever seen at UGA is Fran Tarkenton. David Greene is next close behind. Then comes Zeier, Stafford, Belue,etc.

By Reggie Ball

February 17, 2009 9:33 AM | Link to this

I won 4 games when I was there. Why am I not on this list???

By RxDawg

February 17, 2009 9:34 AM | Link to this

Well, it ain’t Stafford thats for sure. No championship (of any kind), no way.

By WTF???

February 17, 2009 9:35 AM | Link to this

Wait, didn’t Greene win an SEC Championship & a Sugar Bowl???

I guess this debate is finished now….

By imadawg24

February 17, 2009 9:36 AM | Link to this

Preston Ridlehuber

By Chris

February 17, 2009 9:38 AM | Link to this

“He won more games…” WHAT? How does the QB get credit/blame for the other 21 players on the field? QBs don’t win games, TEAMS do. It’s a sad state for intelligent discussion when QBs are getting evaluated based on a TEAM’S W-L record. I see you can get pitcher’s Run Support stats on some sites so you can better evaluate their W-L record. That’s the height of stupidity: using one meaningless stat (that is totally out of the pitcher’s control) to evaluate another.

TEAMS win games, people, not one individual player. TEAMS.

And it is unbelievable you left Fran Tarkenton out of your discussion.

By Kendawg

February 17, 2009 9:40 AM | Link to this

To me, winning is the name of the game. By that standard, I would rate Buck Belue as the best QB UGA has ever had. He won it all. Who will ever forget the greatest pass in UGA’s history, from the 8-yard line? I think Fran Tarkenton would be second, and David Greene third. Just my opinion. I’ve been a Bulldog fan since 1960, when Fran led the Dawgs to a 14-0 victory over Missouri( I think) in the Orange Bowl. I’m also an alumnus.

By JamesD

February 17, 2009 9:45 AM | Link to this

I agree with DawgFan.

By Otto

February 17, 2009 9:48 AM | Link to this

Greene knew how to win and manage the game. He wasn’t the QB out there with a great arm. he just made the right decisions and had leadership. Cox reminds me alot of Greene

Zeier had an amazing arm and leadership. Zeier’s long ball was far more accurate than Stafford. It is a shame he never had the defense to put the team over the edge. Zeier could always lead a come back.

Sinkwich and Tarkenton are both UGA legends, wish I could watch a few of their games.

By Peadawg

February 17, 2009 10:00 AM | Link to this

The years of David Greene, Reggie Brown, Greg Blue, Odell Thurman and David Pollack will never be matched.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

February 17, 2009 10:01 AM | Link to this

Quincy Carter?

By Mobile Dawg

February 17, 2009 10:01 AM | Link to this

IMO, as much talent as Stafford had he underachieved. I know, his offensive line was decimated last year and he never played behind a solid unit but that’s the way it goes. You have to adapt to your surroundings.

I believe overall Stafford was soft, his work ethic at UGA was questionable, he always looked somewhat out of shape, seemed to lack a total committment to the program.

Without a doubt the Belue years were electric, he was a winner, surrounded by other good players. Heart can propel an individual to do great things, hopefully Cox can lead a group of individuals into believing they are a team. How’s the old saying go, there’s no “I” in the word “Team”.

Go Dawgs

By Bernie

February 17, 2009 10:03 AM | Link to this

If the question is what Dawg QB is best, there’s no question that it was Greene. Any argument to the contrary is a waste of breath. He won games with his arm, poise, character, determination, footwork and his voice. I could care less how hard Stafford can throw or what Zeier’s comp % was. It don’t mean a hill of beans unless the QB throws it to a place the receiver can catch it or uses his voice to complement his arm to put his team in a position to win.

Stafford, Greene, Zeier, Belue, Tark, Rauch, Bratkowski, Sinkwich…all = DGoodDawgs…BUT* Greene is the best QB in Dawg history - hands down.

Bernie’sDawgBlawg

By doyle

February 17, 2009 10:03 AM | Link to this

No contest! Buck has a big, fat, beautiful ring on his finger that the rest can only dream of. Me and you and a dawg named Belue!

By Mayretta_Dawg

February 17, 2009 10:05 AM | Link to this

Buck Belue by far! 1) Won National Championship 2) Won SEC Titles 3) Never lost to Florida 4) Never lost to Tech 5) Made two of the greatest plays in UGA history (93 yrd pass vs UF and 1978 comeback against Tech)

By tapate50

February 17, 2009 10:06 AM | Link to this

Stafford career? Left without accomplishing much.

Greene? Winningest QB ever to play NCAA football

Greene IMO best UGA QB, hands down.

By bank walker

February 17, 2009 10:12 AM | Link to this

Fran tha Man

By john lastinger

February 17, 2009 10:17 AM | Link to this

what about me? i beat an undefeated texas team in the cotton bowl?

By CMS

February 17, 2009 10:18 AM | Link to this

This is an interesting discussion particularly regarding the modern QB position production at UGA. In my personal viewpoint each QB with the exception of Greene had highly exceptional production at the tailback position. Belue had Hershel, Zeir had Garrison, and Stafford had Knoshon. Greene had Musa for the most part but it was generally running back by committee. With that said you have to give the credit to Greene as the tailback position does take alot of pressure off the QB to perform.

By Bud

February 17, 2009 10:19 AM | Link to this

John Rauch, Zeke Bartkowski, Fran Tarkenton, Preston Ridlehuber, Andy Johnson, Matt Robinson, Ray Goff, Jeff Pyburn, Buck Belue. There was life before the young ‘uns padding numbers and headed pro.

By reservoirDAWG

February 17, 2009 10:20 AM | Link to this

I agree with those who said Greene. His record speaks for itself and he had a game time poise to admire.

By Lew

February 17, 2009 10:21 AM | Link to this

Fran Tarkenton

By Jlo

February 17, 2009 10:24 AM | Link to this

What if one of the aforementioned had also been an all SEC safety while playing QB, and regulated Francis Tarkenton to sharing time as a starter? Would you consider Charlie Britt?

By Halsey

February 17, 2009 10:28 AM | Link to this

Since it’s such a popular cliche to say “winning is all that matters!”. I’m gonna go with Buck Belue. Unlike any other UGA QB in modern football times, he won a national championship. I mean you gotta go with him since these arguments always come down to people pretending a QB singlehandedly wins or loses games.

By d

February 17, 2009 10:29 AM | Link to this

Buck Belue—-easily the best. One national title, played for another title. Greene choked in the big game against Florida, costing UGA a title.

By baloney

February 17, 2009 10:30 AM | Link to this

Yeah,yeah Greene won more games at QB than ant other QB in history. The main thing to remember though before we get overly impressed with that sta is that he did start every single game in his 4 years. Also and this is key, he was a redshirt freshman. Now he did break Mannings record for most wins, but you have to remember that Manning didn’t start until very late in his freshman season.So beofre we automatically think Greene was the best QB in SEC history, I suggest take everything into account especially the guys that were great but were behind better QB’s that were great in their own right. Bottom line is Greene was at the right spot at the right time, on very good teams. Yes he was a very good QB, but in all honesty if you put him on an Auburn team or Florida, or even Tennessee, or LSU, he would have been a back up for at least two years.

By Mayretta_Dawg

February 17, 2009 10:31 AM | Link to this

Now the QB is settled, how about the greatest PK in UGA history? 1) Butler 2) Robinson 3) Kasay 4) Etter 5) Leavitt 6) Braswell 7) Couttu

By Dan

February 17, 2009 10:34 AM | Link to this

Where are all the Stafford supporters??? Could they all be NFL agents??? Coincidence??? Duh???

By spotts

February 17, 2009 10:39 AM | Link to this

Had Stafford stayed another year, he might be considered as the best GA quarterback. But he didn’t even win a a division title.

By 2MoreCents

February 17, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this

I agree with baloney.But I would like for someone to name two defining plays by Stafford. Zeier had a bundle, Greene had a few, Belue had a few, I can’t recall a game winner, or changer from Stafford.I think it has to be Belue.

By GT student

February 17, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this

i would have to say reggie ball.

By R.A

February 17, 2009 10:44 AM | Link to this

Greene was not even the best QB on his team, regardless of his stats or wins. He was at the most average. Stafford I would say is the best QB and that’s based upon me not watching Zier much because I was young. I do know he is a Marietta High School legend. And I think he was a pretty good QB from what I remember, plus he was able to sustaing an NFL career. David Greene don’t see why he was ever even drafted. Stafford I believe was the best QB in college in 2008. Not any of those Big 12 QB’s who’s stats were patted by either an offense who throws 90% ot the time, or some soft defenses that give up 30 points a game when playing anyone with any talented players. Stafford put up numbers against some great defenses. Therefore in my life time Stafford was the best QB at Georgia. Could have been Shockley but politics I believe was the reason why he didn’t play until his senior year. He was clearly the best QB on that team in the Greene error

By Hines Ward

February 17, 2009 10:45 AM | Link to this

Hey What about me…I was a team player…and superbowl MVP

By Garrett

February 17, 2009 10:46 AM | Link to this

On the argument of the best QBS in Georgia history, I have to go with Greene over Stafford and Zier. Plain out Greene is the winningist QB in NCAA hisotry. So many people have forgotten that and that is a pretty impressive feat. Moreover, he won an SEC title and Sugar bowl and went to another SEC championship in 04. Stafford never made it to the SEC champ. Stafford is probably one of the top three QBs to ever throw a ball at Georgia, yet I have to give the nod to Greene.

By CMS

February 17, 2009 10:46 AM | Link to this

Eventhough everyone seems to be giving the crown to Greene as the modern QB King of UGA, credit should be given to Zeir. He played on a stacked team that should have won a few more games (particularly beat FL). Too bad Goff didn’t utilize all the talent he had on the team … he had Terrell Davis riding the bench for crying out loud.

By GeoffDawg

February 17, 2009 10:51 AM | Link to this

Auburn baloney? When does Auburn ever have great QBs? Craig was a successful running QB and Campbell was good but didn’t come on until his senior season. I can’t think of anyone else that stands out in modern history.

By Joey

February 17, 2009 11:02 AM | Link to this

Buck Belue. He was almost “Montana like” with 10 or more 4th quarter comebacks (Fla two times, Clemson, Stanford, Ky, Tech, etc). Was the coolest under pressure I’ve ever seen.

David Greene a close second. Also cool under pressure. The best I’ve seen at running the hurry-up offense.

By James Jackson

February 17, 2009 11:03 AM | Link to this

How about me?

By Jim L

February 17, 2009 11:04 AM | Link to this

DJ Shockly not being mentioned is a sad joke. He helped out whenever he was asked, patiently waited his turn, and won the same number of SEC championships as Greene (more than Zeier or Stafford). Huh, UGA fans sometimes make me feel bad about being a UGA fan.

By Bob

February 17, 2009 11:05 AM | Link to this

The fact that Fran Tarkenton didn’t even get a mention by you is almost criminal, and shows a real lack of knowledge. He’s in the college & pro football Hall of Fames, for crying out loud!

A case can be made for him as possibly the greatest Pro QB of all time.

But, as for his time at UGA, nobody was ever better at moving the team down the field. He was the greatest “play caller” simply genius and had eyes in the back of his head. He had the fastest feet you’ll ever see and the most accurate passer I’ve ever seen.

Until Belue to Scott, he had produced the greatest play in Ga. history to beat Auburn and win the SEC in 1959. Ga. had been picked to finish last in the conference. He was winner of MVP in the Orange Bowl, Blue/Gray Game, Hula Bowl, Pro Bowl & NFL, 75. Paleez, never, ever again refer to greatest QB & not give Tarkenton his due.

By hatfieldgeoff

February 17, 2009 11:06 AM | Link to this

David Greene is without doubt the best he started as a freshman and all four years and he still threw less interceptions than Stafford did in 3 years. Greene had better touch, threw a better deep ball (even without the strong arm) and he had the knack for making plays. Zeier would be #2 he was composed as a freshman and could make plays at critical times, but the overall talent and coaching on his teams definitely held him back. I would put Belue at #3 because of NC, the best part of his game was the knack for making plays (the two-point play against tech in 1978, and of course “Run Lindsey Run” with a big assist from Nat Hudson). Belue was a decent passer, maybe he could have been better but Vince wasn’t going to put the ball up much. Belue could do more than just hand off or pitch to Herschel, but without Herschel that 1980 team probably goes 8-3 or 7-4. I never saw Tarkenton at UGA but did in the pros. He would go next since he won an SEC crown in 1959. Zeke Bratkowski would go next he led the SEC in passing for two years in early 50s. Then Stafford, he has all the tools but doesn’t seem to have that something special that sets him apart. But, then again, that didn’t help Greene, Belue or Zeier to star in the pro game. Hope it works out for him to have a successful NFL career.

By Matt Robinson

February 17, 2009 11:07 AM | Link to this

I played in the NFL!

By hatfieldgeoff

February 17, 2009 11:09 AM | Link to this

Hey Jim L. I wish Shockley had come along at a time when he could have started for 2 or 3 years but as much as I liked his game one season has to limit how high he can be ranked.

By MACMARINE

February 17, 2009 11:11 AM | Link to this

Fran Tarkenton, by far the best QB to ever come out of the Dog Pound!!!

By GaCracker

February 17, 2009 11:11 AM | Link to this

It would have to be Greene. The question is who was better in college, not the pros. Pan Sullivan won the Hesiman trophy in 1971 but did nothing in the pros. John Elway led a 5-6 team at Stanford his senior year (remember Cal. beating them with the multi laterals on the last play)?

But how about one Francis Ashbury Tarkenton. He played pretty well at both levels. He is one of only 2 DAWGS in the NFL hall of fame (Tri[ppi is the other).

And Belue was clutch before he has Walker (remember the 2 point flanker around option he ran for a 2 point play to beat Tech before Walker arrives, or the throw to Lindsay Scott to make us number 1 in the polls in 1980?

By baloney

February 17, 2009 11:12 AM | Link to this

GeoffDawg, it is true Auburn has typically had average at best QB play. But my point is with Craig or Campbell no matter their style of play, it would have been hard for Greene to play in from\nt of either. Much the same could be said for Shockley over Greene. Shockley (or Stokely as Lou Holtz says)proved to be very good but he was never good enough to beat out Greene. By the same token had Shockley got the nod over Greene to begin with and he had played as good leading up to his senior season it would have been hard for Greene to take his job. Make sense?

By Elvis

February 17, 2009 11:15 AM | Link to this

baloney: That is baloney! Who would have started in front of Greene at auburn or tenn??

Green was great but unspectacular.

Zier is the best QB in the history of UGA. If he did not play for the worst coach in NCAA history, he would have won some titles.

Dont forget about DJ Shockley!!!!!

By jake

February 17, 2009 11:15 AM | Link to this

How about Tommy Lewis in late 50’s. He started many and never won any.

By dap01

February 17, 2009 11:16 AM | Link to this

Belue was good QB on a great team. But he only completed one pass in the NC game. Herschel was great, Buck was average.

By OZZFEST

February 17, 2009 11:17 AM | Link to this

JOE DUPREE….but Goff went with Greg Talley.

By I'm just saying

February 17, 2009 11:17 AM | Link to this

Shockley helped Florida keep UGA out of the National Championship game by throwing that horrible INT in 2002. He had a great Senior year though.

By Glen U

February 17, 2009 11:22 AM | Link to this

James Jackson was the most talented-

By WTF???

February 17, 2009 11:24 AM | Link to this

Wait! - Best UGA QB - REGGIE BALL

By typical bulldawg fan

February 17, 2009 11:25 AM | Link to this

Joe tereshenski…

Hands down

By Fort Worth Dawg

February 17, 2009 11:25 AM | Link to this

Chip Whatever happened to Jackson and Johnson? I was going to throw out a John Lastinger mention because Dooley QB’s were never allowed to throw and no one gave UGA a chance after Herschel left (but some clown beat me to it). Lastinger took down a Texas team that had an excellent defense and should have won the national championship (as I recall that UGA team took down a good Clempson team as well). Lastinger wasn’t the best but he was the right kid at the right time. I’ll never forget the Dooley joke: “Vince would have made an All American safety out of [insert any famous QB name here].”

By gregay

February 17, 2009 11:26 AM | Link to this

oh man, y’all ain’t even mentioned Mike Cavan?

By WT

February 17, 2009 11:29 AM | Link to this

The best quarterback I ever saw play at Stanford Stadium was Francis (that is what it was then) Tarkenton who went on to set several passing records in the NFL. Second would be Buck Belue who won a national championship. Third would be David Greene who holds the record for winning games. Other quarterbacks may have thrown a more beautiful pass, but its all about accomplishments.

By Big Al

February 17, 2009 11:32 AM | Link to this

What?? no Quincy Carter votes?? best QB that relied on pure talent (if he had skill to go with it) he would have been a great one…but a serious vote must go to Eric Zeier (the arm, the brains, the leadership and the poise)…he was an amazing college QB…

By GeoffDawg

February 17, 2009 11:34 AM | Link to this

Sorry baloney but I can’t buy that either of those two guys at Auburn would’ve started in front of Greene given an even playing field. Granted - Greene probably wasn’t as athletically gifted as either of them or Shockley for that matter but he was one of the smartest and most poised college QBs I’ve ever seen. Let’s also not forget that Shockley was very error prone before his senior year as well. I remember a very nervous Dawg Nation leading up to that season. Fortunately, the timing was such that that was his breakout year.

By Moonshine Dawg

February 17, 2009 11:36 AM | Link to this

1) Greene - good numbers, winner, leader, solid 2) Stafford - great QB, but needed at least an SECC 3) Tarkenton - great performer, exciting 4) Zeier - poor teams hurts Zeier rankings 5) Shockley - better than average QB, SECC helps 6) Zeke - from what I’ve read is one of the tops

Belue, at best would be ten. The early 80’s were Walker teams

By UGA 4 LIFE

February 17, 2009 11:36 AM | Link to this

The Best UGA QB’s in this order: ( I only go back as far as the 80’s)

Buck Belue: National Champ No more to be said

David Greene: Could have even better with recievers who caught the ball on a cosistant basis. I always felt good about our chances when Greene was at QB.

DJ Shockley: The best athelete UGA has ever had at QB. If DJ would have started ahead of Greene he would have been just as good or even better I think. And put him at QB of the 07 or 08 team and we are National Champs for sure.

Mike BOBO: He was accuarate and he was a leader. Not enough gamebreakers around him to help us win a title.

Matthew Stafford: The most physically gifted QB in UGA History. I love Stafford but he never seemed to have the leadeship qualities to go along with the physical talent.

Eric Zier: I am just not a big Zier fan. I think he was a poor mans Matthew Stafford.

By gregay

February 17, 2009 11:39 AM | Link to this

well, if Cavan ain’t in the mix, I’ll go with Greene. A winner, pure and simple.

By webhead

February 17, 2009 11:40 AM | Link to this

You can look at Stafford and tell that he just doesn’t have football smarts like David Greene had. He’s a thrower,not a QB.Easist way to describe it is John smoltz in 1989 and Greg maddux in 1989. One was a thrower the other a pitcher.Now thats not saying he won’t become great but it going to take time. Just look at the differce in the eyes of Stafford and Matt Ryan

By gregay

February 17, 2009 11:42 AM | Link to this

LOL on Carter Big AL!!!!

I always said Carter is what cost Donnan his job. I really feel that way. Carter couldn’t have that winning edge cause he liked that weed a little too much.

Poor Donnan kept sticking with him, shows maybe the coach could’ve been a good coach but he was no judge of winning character.

By One Voice

February 17, 2009 11:43 AM | Link to this

Zeier was at UGA when I went there and I always thought he was the best college quarterback I’d ever seen (and probably didn’t get enough of a shot in the pros because of his height). It’s hard to say what he would have done with a better defense and a more mentally disciplined coaching staff. Stafford was a good quarterback with the perfect skill set for the modern NFL.

But Greene won more games than any quarterback in NCAA history, so that decides it IMO. There were some games that Zeier and Stafford could have won if they had played at their absolute best at crunch time. Even though Greene didn’t have the best arm, the best accuracy, or the best footwork, it always seemed like he hit all the passes when the team most needed him to.

That’s a quality that only guys like Montana, Elway, and Brady had. You can’t really measure how well a guy can keep his calm and perform at maximum capacity when there is the most pressure, which is when most guys underperform. The only way to measure that is in wins, and Greene wins that comparison. Greene just won. If I had to pick a quarterback to have the ball in his hands down a touchdown on our own 15 yard line with 1:30 left in the 4th quarter, it would be Greene. So IMO he was the best UGA quarterback ever.

By Jerry

February 17, 2009 11:48 AM | Link to this

Quitsey Carter, no doubt!

By Fact Checka

February 17, 2009 11:50 AM | Link to this

“but you have to remember that Manning didn’t start until very late in his freshman season.”

That is not true. Manning took over in the 4th game of the season after the 1st and 2nd stringers were injuried. He then started the remaining 8 games on Tennessee’s schedule.

By Big Bass

February 17, 2009 11:54 AM | Link to this

I have heard this argument about UGA quarterbacks before, and I always get sick to my stomach to think how short-sighted and historically ignorant the local sports writers and commentators are. There is only one UGA quarterback who was ever considered “Great”, and that was and still is Fran Tarkenton.

By murfdawg

February 17, 2009 11:55 AM | Link to this

Matthew Stafford is the most physically gifted qb I have ever seen at UGA. David Greene was the right man at the right time and had a great career. Buck Belue was a winner! Plain and simple.

But when I look for a qb, I want one who will take control of the team, inspire all around him to play better than they are capable of, stay calm and lead the team. If I had to choose one qb to take a team down the field in the last two minutes to win a game, my choice would be Andy Johnson.

By Mac

February 17, 2009 11:57 AM | Link to this

No Fran Tarkenton on your list, Chip? You were aware one of the top-5 QBs in NFL history was a Dawg, right?

By 'ol dawg

February 17, 2009 12:00 PM | Link to this

As an old geezer, I have seen them all play. Rauch was a pure passer; Tarkenton, a true field general with real smarts; Greene, could thread a needle with calmness; Stafford, a gun but failed to reach his potential which I think is great. Notice I did not name them all, because these are the best IMO. Number one to me - Tarkenton. A magician, and a history to prove it. I used to think many years ago that no one would ever better Charley Trippi as the best I have ever seen to wear the red and black. Now, I still think the same way except the player has changed - Herschel Walker was the consumate back, and just plain ran over people. I only mention this to show that I have seen so many, followed the DAWGS closely, and my dad started taking me to games when I was two years old. Been going ever since. The question is about the best quarterback, and as I said, Tarkenton. Sorry some of you young guys did not get to see him play.

By AltamahaDawg

February 17, 2009 12:01 PM | Link to this

Are we talking the best QB to have played at UGA (Tark, Stafford), or the best UGA QB (Greene, Zeier)? Big difference.

EZ was the most entertaining and exciting by a long shot.

By Bob

February 17, 2009 12:02 PM | Link to this

I think alot of the criticism of Matthew Stafford is unfair. No football smarts? No leadership skills? What in the hell do you people base this crap on? I really would like to know.

At any rate, you still gotta go with Greene based on his accomplishments, although Cory Phillips sure does give him a run for his money.

By timthebrave

February 17, 2009 12:12 PM | Link to this

If you are talking about career at UGA than you have to give it to Green. Green was solid and won championships. He also didn’t turn over the ball like Stafford and had less of a running game. I remember passing like 220 times straight without an interception. To me a quarterback is about a leader and Green would get my vote. Although, I do think Stafford has a better arm and hits the intermediate routes better. As far as Tarkenton I couldn’t rate him because I never saw him play.

By GeoffDawg

February 17, 2009 12:14 PM | Link to this

I partially agree with Bob. CMR asks his QBs to do a lot of reading of the defense and audibling on the field. Probably more than 90% of the college programs out there and Stafford handled that responsibility very well. He definitely had football smarts. Now, if he had the heart or other intangibles of Greene or Zeier, that’s a different discussion.

But to bring up Cory Phillips? I liked him and I remember one monster game when he outdueled Tim Couch at Kentucky, but he doesn’t deserve to be in the same zip code with Greene in this discussion.

By GT

February 17, 2009 12:14 PM | Link to this

JOHN RAUCH. GREEN BROKE HIS RECORD, BUT WITH MORE GAMES IN THE SEASON. RAUCH WAS ALSO CREDITED WITH BEGINNING WHAT WAS TO BECOME THE WEST COAST OFFENSE. TALK TO LORAN SMITH. MR. RAUCH MAY HAVE DONE MORE FOR UGA TAN ANY OF THESE GUYS. STARTED 4 YEARS, i BELIEVE.I HAD THE PLEASURE TO MEET HIM . AS A PERSON PURE CLASS. GOD REST A GREAT DAWG.

By MARIETTA DAWG

February 17, 2009 12:19 PM | Link to this

UGAhas some great QBs in the past.

What do you expect they were BULLDAWGS.

Belue,Greene,Shockley,Zeir,Stafford,BoBo,Tarkenton,and even Joe T has left us with alot of memories and trophies in our cases. No matter what — Once a DAWG always a DAWG They were all great — they wore RED AND BLACK. But if I was to pick I would have to say my favorite was David Greene.

By Bob

February 17, 2009 12:21 PM | Link to this

It was a joke. Obviously not a very good one.

By GaCracker

February 17, 2009 12:22 PM | Link to this

Hey OneVoice

John Elway didn’t win in college (5-6) senior year and his first 2 Super Bowls were AWFUL. They used to joke about the difference between Elway and Lindy Lovelace - she didn’t choke on the big ones!!

Bobo was very underrated. His last game in the bowl he only missed one pass in about 25 attempts! Have never seen single game performance that good from any other QB at UGa.

By Joe Cox

February 17, 2009 12:23 PM | Link to this

What about me? I led a great game against Colorado! I am the starter this year! We will win the NC under my leadership! LMAO

By GaCracker

February 17, 2009 12:27 PM | Link to this

How about Hines Ward????

By richard

February 17, 2009 12:27 PM | Link to this

BUCK BELUE!!!!! Great quarterbacks win with the talent around them and Buck did just that……………NATIONAL TITLE! It wasn’t just Herschal. Got to have that general to lead them and BUCK did that!!

Strad had tons of talent and could not get it done! Sorry Fran but just like in Minnesota………..always a bridesmaid.

GO BUCK!!!!! YOU WILL ALWAYS BE THE MAN!

By Bubba Dawg

February 17, 2009 12:29 PM | Link to this

I rate Bulldog Quarterbacks like this: 1.) Fran Tarkenton, 2.) Johnny Rauch, 3.) David Greene, 4.) Matt Stafford, 5.) Buck Belue, 6.) D.J. Shockley, 7.) Eric Zeier, 8.) Matt Robinson, 9.) Zeke Bratkowski, 10.) Frank Sinkwich.

By AceDawg

February 17, 2009 12:32 PM | Link to this

I wish Stafford the best, and he did a lot for UGA, but I give Greene AND Zeier the nod. I also think Shockley’s senior year was better than any year Stafford had. I can’t tell yet, but maybe he is more geared for the NFL. I think there have been better college quarterbacks than Stafford that have had better intangibles that help teams win. I think Joe Cox may prove that next year and make the Bulldogs better in 2009 than they were in 2007 or 2008.

By Back In Black 85

February 17, 2009 12:35 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe that among this many responses there is only one mention of Mike Bobo. He had almost as many game winning plays as David Greene did in his short career. He played with Robert Edwards and Hines Ward, and doesn’t anyone remember that drought-breaking win against Florida in ‘97? I can remember several times when Bobo pulled the game out of his butt in Joe Montana fashion, and that to me, more than championship rings or big stats, is the mark of a great QB. I would rank David Greene #1 and Buck Belue #2 hands down. Eric Zeier was a more accurate passer than Stafford, but neither of those two has any significant wins, and several significant losses. No Montana/Elway comebacks for those two. Then there are the D.J. Shockleys and the Mike Bobos, who were just winners. Beyond that, you have to go into the Dooley and pre-Dooley eras for guys like Rauch and Goff and Bratkowski and Tarkenton.

By GeoffDawg

February 17, 2009 12:39 PM | Link to this

My mistake Bob. I thought you brought him up because after taking over for Quincy Carter, he had a fair amount of success including, I believe, a couple games of over 400 yards passing. Given his brief tenure though, I didn’t think he deserved mention.

By Otto

February 17, 2009 12:40 PM | Link to this

Greene choked against UF??? Maybe it was Shockley’s INT?

Also if UGA had gone perfect they may have been in 3rd like Auburn in ‘04. Remember UGA came out of nowhere in ‘02 and OSU and Miami were preseason top picks.

Speaking of ‘04 DJ had little to no part in that UF game and UGA won. DJ did surprise me in ‘05 and if he would have been healthy I liked our chances against UF. JoeT was the wrong guy for that game.

Out of the QBs I’ve watched Zeier. He did more with less. He had better stats than Stafford with an equally put together OL, worse defense and coaching.

By WT

February 17, 2009 12:51 PM | Link to this

It’s a shame D. J. Shockley didn’t have two or three full seasons, so if we are talking about time allotted, D.J. is 1st!

By Cuz

February 17, 2009 12:55 PM | Link to this

I gotta go with Hines, what position do you want me to play next coach, Ward.

Chip, didn’t Hines have the most passing yards record in a bowl game for the Peach/Eat-mo-chickin bowl?

By snellville jacket

February 17, 2009 12:55 PM | Link to this

Fran the Man Tarkington. Has to be the best QB to ever play in Athens. Remember he played in an era where few teams and more good players per team.

How soon they forget in Athens.

By Ed

February 17, 2009 12:57 PM | Link to this

Belue was the best clutch quarterback in my opinion. He had a terrible game against Notre Dame in the ‘81 Sugar Bowl but completed a final, key pass to seal the win. His play against Tech in ‘78 and UF in ‘80 made him a legend.

Zeir - best quarterback I’ve seen at Georgia, but won’t get credit because he went to UGA at the wrong time. Too bad, but I’d take him in a heartbeat over any qb I’ve seen before or since (too young to remember Tarketon). Had a great arm and great touch.

Green - great leader, nice touch, average arm, but a winner. An SEC title, 13-1 record in ‘02, and broke a long losing skid against UF in ‘04. The head of a great class of Dawgs.

Stafford - unbelievable talent, big win over Florida in ‘07, but erratic and often had accuracy problems, especially on deep balls. Had one more pick than Green in one less season. Enjoyed watching him play, but would put him at the bottom of this list.

Lastinger - probably the least talented of the group, but a winner. Led UGA to a 10-1-1 season and #4 final ranking the year after Herschel left, and scored the winning TD against Texas in the ‘84 Cotton Bowl. Lead a great comeback attempt against Penn State in the ‘83 Sugar Bowl after UGA was dominated early.

Bobo - great game against the Gators in ‘97, good leader, nice passer. Like Zeir played on some bad teams with porous defenses.

Tarketon - before my time, but threw the SEC Championship winning TD pass against Auburn in ‘59, and that speaks for itself.

The best overall in my opinion is Zeir, because he got the most he could get out of some of the worst teams in recent UGA history. Put him on any of Richt’s teams or any of Dooley’s better teams, and there would be a monument to him outside of Sanford Stadium. If he were a little bigger, probably would have been an All Pro qb for years in the NFL.

By Ed

February 17, 2009 12:59 PM | Link to this

Forgot one…

Goff - Powerful runner and good game manager. Lead the Dawgs to the SEC Championship and National Title game in ‘76, and also lead a great comeback against Florida that year.

I’d also put him over Stafford and in the mix with Belue and Lastinger because the bottom line is clutch wins and SEC Championships, and he delivered.

By David

February 17, 2009 1:00 PM | Link to this

If Stafford and Zeier had Greene’s defenses, you would say Stafford. But David was a great one too.

By Ed

February 17, 2009 1:03 PM | Link to this

Forgot another one…

DJ Shockley. Most versatile, difficult-to-contain UGA QB I’ve ever seen. A loyal Dawg through and through who stuck out 3 years on the bench. Lead Georgia to the ‘05 SEC title and a big comeback attempt against West. Va. in the Sugar Bowl (not his fault the defense couldn’t stop WVU). Played great in the SEC title game against LSU. Contributed to the ‘02 SEC title season, played great in an early win over Clemson.

Bottom line, the Dawgs won big when he was in uniform. I rank him easily in the top 5 of UGA qbs.

By HF

February 17, 2009 1:07 PM | Link to this

Everyone forgets about Johnny Rauch. He was Georgia’s starting QB for four years, starting as a true freshman in 1945. Georgia was 36-8-1 with him as the starter, including an undefeated season in 1946 and wins in three of four bowls when you actually had to have a good team to go to a bowl. His senior year he was a first team All-American, the No. 2 pick in the NFL draft and the holder of college football’s all-time passing record. It is hard to compare players from different eras, but Rauch would have been a star whenever he played. Oh, and he had a decent pro coaching career as well.

By color red

February 17, 2009 1:08 PM | Link to this

Shockley didn’t get to start over Greene because of his color.

By BobDog

February 17, 2009 1:15 PM | Link to this

Ray Goff! What was it Coach Dooley said about him? “Yeah, he’s big, but he’s slow.”?

Definitely not Zeier. He never came from behind to win a game.

Green was surrounded by a great team, but he was good. Stafford unfortunately had a patched up O line and the defense had a horrible year in 08.

Looks like Sinkwich may have been the most successful or either Green.

By Mayretta_Dawg

February 17, 2009 1:15 PM | Link to this

Hey Ed,

Georgia DID NOT play in the 1976 NC game. They played Pitt (#1) in the Sugar bowl because they were SEC champs. Georgia was ranked #5 and could not have jumped USC or Michigan even if they won.

By lance

February 17, 2009 1:15 PM | Link to this

Once Again! Stats are for GEEKS. Leave them to the GT Nerds. It is all about W’s and NC. Zeir, Greene & Stafford did not do it. My vote is for Belue until someone else brings us to the promise land.

By James Jackson

February 17, 2009 1:17 PM | Link to this

I was soooo good, they named a street in Atlanta after me….. the “James Jackson Parkway”

By st simons

February 17, 2009 1:19 PM | Link to this

reggie Ball!!! UGA best QB

By charlotte dawg

February 17, 2009 1:24 PM | Link to this

Greene - hands down.

Stafford - not even close. Worst deep ball I have seen for someone with so much “talent”. I do wish him well in the NFL, but he has work to do.

By Tony in Johns Creek

February 17, 2009 1:25 PM | Link to this

I’d say DJ gets acknowledgment in this discussion of who’s arguably the best all time Ga. QB with winning the SEC title in first season at QB as compared to one in 4 seasons with Greene and 0 in 3 seasons with Stafford.

If we’re going to compare Greene and Stafford there is no comparison if you ask me. Greene was the quintessential “game manager” as Stafford obviously wasn’t, by leaving the defense in terrible positions after turnovers, by showcasing that arm of his into double coverage or overthrowing the deep ball or never hitting the fade route in the corner of the endzone…. compare their interception numbers… that speaks volumes. I’d say DJ’s INT/TD ratio is as good as Greene’s.

DJ ran Richt’s offense like the other two QB’s but added the element of being able to move the chains and then some with his feet.. something I wish we’d still look for in a QB at Georgia rather than the traditional style QB.

By DunwoodyDawg

February 17, 2009 1:31 PM | Link to this

Poor John Lastinger just never gets any love.

By Patrick

February 17, 2009 1:33 PM | Link to this

I love all those choices but I have to go with Fran “the man” Tarkenton” I was only 11-13 years old when I watched him play between the hedges (with half the stadium empty some games and there were no closed ends or upper deck)but I remember a man that had to scramble for his life alot and still make play after play. I also watch him play for years in the pros with Minnisota and NY Giants and he is one of the greatest in the pros too! (Yes even if he never did win a super bowl in 2 or 3 trys)

By TampaDawg

February 17, 2009 1:35 PM | Link to this

John Rauch held the most record for most wins when there were fewer games in the season. He also won all 4 bowl games and was the No. 1 NFL draft pick, had a distinguished pro and coaching career. He also was a lifelong DAWG and a true gentleman. The Tampa club misses him.

By Exley DAWG

February 17, 2009 1:36 PM | Link to this

Greene - No question!

By You_Know_Me

February 17, 2009 1:39 PM | Link to this

Here’s the pecking order of quarterbacks at UGA:

1. Buck Belue - won a National Title (enough said)

2. David Green

3. D.J. Shockley

4. David Green

By RealityYech

February 17, 2009 1:46 PM | Link to this

Hands down David Greene. No questions asked. Buddy was just a leader and a competitor. Not to mention at least 109 out of 119 other programs, any given year, would have given their leftarm to have him. Yet Richt saw fit to torture him with a pointless, and undeserved, rotation that did more to help lose games than win. Any other QB, even if the tables had been turned and it was DJ that was the starter, would have pitched a fit and raised hell. Greene was just the best and most classy QB UGA has ever seen. Shame we can’t find another just like him.

By wildbird

February 17, 2009 1:53 PM | Link to this

Didnt Tarkenton play at uga too

By AltamahaDawg

February 17, 2009 1:53 PM | Link to this

Remember Jackson spiking the ball at SC when the clock ran down but still a live play? Classic Vince Dooley quote in the aftermath…….”The Bawlgame is Ova.”

By Dorsey Hill

February 17, 2009 1:53 PM | Link to this

Greene and its easy:

By wildbird

February 17, 2009 1:56 PM | Link to this

Francis nfl hall of fame enough said lol

By Denver dog

February 17, 2009 1:56 PM | Link to this

I think that the best I saw play was Tarkenton, after that, Mike Cavan, and Andy Johnson from that Era.

How can you forget Matt Robinson, who shared duties with Ray Goff. Buck was the best, hed couldn’t do anything but beat you, and he beat our rivals, and had great comebacks against a lot of great teams.

Modern Era, I would have to go with Greene, and then Shockley. Great Leadership, and they knew how to beat our rivals, when they were playing.

Best all time, Fran Tarkenton for sure!

By chitown Dawg

February 17, 2009 2:00 PM | Link to this

SHOCKLEY

By Mart

February 17, 2009 2:01 PM | Link to this

This reminds me of those who claim Joe Montana was Notre Dame’s greatest qb based on his NFL accomplishments. While Montana was arguably the greatest NFL qb, his collegiate career was no better than good. He started for only a year and a half, and while he had some memorable moments,his stats were pretty pedestrian. I have a feeling that if Stafford doesn’t pan out in the pros his exploits (such as they were) will soon be forgotten in Athens. If he achieves nfl stardom, his “legend” at UGA will grow.

BTW, I’d put Ray Goff ahead of Stafford on the greatest Bulldog quarterbacks list. Goff led UGA to a conference championship, two major bowls, and was SEC player of the year.

By Mart

February 17, 2009 2:02 PM | Link to this

Also, I’d rate Stafford’s college career about on par with Andy Johnson’s (1971-73).

By jimw

February 17, 2009 2:04 PM | Link to this

Where did Buck Balue’s name go? He was the best one and not even mentioned.

By AC_Dawg

February 17, 2009 2:04 PM | Link to this

For those of you arguing that Stafford’s potential #1 draft pick and potential NFL success do nothing for UGA, I can think of a few things it brings to the university…

1) National attention for the school 2) Attention from hundreds of high school football players who have dreams of playing in the NFL, especially high-profile quarterback recruits who are considering UGA as an option 3) The reputation of a university and a football program that develops its players to play at an NFL level and earn high picks in the NFL draft; again, this especially applies to quarterbacks in this situation

Keep in mind I am not claiming that Stafford is UGA’s best QB ever. I am just saying that the potential high draft pick he has earned does matter to UGA and future UGA recruiting classes.

By jrock

February 17, 2009 2:07 PM | Link to this

Another vote for Shockley & his 1 year…if he would of started 2 or 3, I think the dawgs would of had the swagger to win an NC or two that Greene was not capable of creating (see Greene’s senior year & the underachieving Capital One appearance)

By hop

February 17, 2009 2:18 PM | Link to this

it is amazing how chip towers knows so little about bulldog history.

francis asbury tarkenton won champions in football at (OLD)athens high and uga. he was all state in football, basketball,baseball and tennis in high school.

he was an all american and all sec qb at uga.

he held many of the nfl passing records for 20 plus years and was the most valuable player in the nfl in 1975.

charlie trippi and francis tarkenton are the only georgia football players in both the college and nfl hall of fame.

i always wondered if chip had a clue about football and now i am sure he does not.

when you leave out the one qb who has accomplish more than all of the former georgia qb’s combine,one has to wonder and ask why?

By Dorsey Hill

February 17, 2009 2:19 PM | Link to this

Oops

Anyway its easy because:

1st SEC Champ in 25 years

1st SEC East Championship ever, won 2 total

Broke a long drought at Neyland with 60 yard drive in 40 seconds

Beat a very good Auburn team at Jordan Hare on a 4th down throw

1st UGA QB to win in Tuscaloosa after 6 or 7 prior attempts

Beat UF

I think he lost one true road SEC game at LSU on a hail mary.

Came off the bench to save us from losing to Tech in his final home game

Really, this is not a close argument. There are a bunch of people who deserve recognition, including Ray Goff who led us to the Sugar Bowl in 1976, and Hines Ward whose play in 1995 was among the bravest, guttiest football I’ve ever seen from anyone, but its Greene and its not close.

The best pro-qb to come from UGA is obviously Fran and I hope we can have a debate about who was the better pro Stafford or Fran in a decade or so.

By GeoffDawg

February 17, 2009 2:20 PM | Link to this

For all the posters saying Shockley should’ve started over Greene - unless you have very short memories, Shockley was given a lot of playing time during Greene’s run. During that time, he more often than not looked indecisive, tentative, and very mistake prone. It wasn’t until his senior season that he really started to put it all together. Based on his on-field performance, there’s no way in creation that Shockley should’ve started over Greene. We’re not talking about potential here, we’re talking about on the field play.

By Otto

February 17, 2009 2:20 PM | Link to this

Greene blew it in the UF game for the perfect season??? Maybe it was DJ’s int. Keep in mind OSU and Miami were at the top of the preseason rankings. UGA came out of nowhere setting up for another ‘04 situation.

Speaking of ‘04 DJ did much better than expected if he was healthy who knows about UF and Auburn. JoeT was not the backup we needed.

Of the QBs I’ve watched Zeier did more with less (OL defense & coaching)

Buck was great but even he will tell you without #34 he would not be the great he is today not mention one of the greatest defensive coaches ever to be on the UGA sideline.

By dogfan

February 17, 2009 2:21 PM | Link to this

To the guy that said Green choked in the big game against Florida, NO HE DID NOT!!! Shockley threw the interception that was returned for a TD and cost Georgia the game. If the question is who’s the best quarterback - at least in the last 30 years - and not the most talented in terms of being able to throw the ball - you’d have to rate Green & Zeier first and a very close second. The thing about Green was that - from a physical stand point he was not that talented. But he seem to have the intangibles - calm under pressure, a head for the game, and at his best when the game was on the line (Ask Tennessee and Auburn). If not for the Shockley (who would probably be in this discussion as well if not for Green) interception Green could have had an undefeated season and possible national championship.

By Quincy Carter

February 17, 2009 2:22 PM | Link to this

Y’all forget about me?????

By doc

February 17, 2009 2:24 PM | Link to this

no one holds a candle to fran tarkington. great in college and top twenty ever in the pros. bradley even put him in the top ten. he really put uga back on the map after the trippi years.

By Ed

February 17, 2009 2:26 PM | Link to this

In defense of Stafford, there were some memorable performances. At Auburn in ‘06 and UF in ‘07 come to mind. But his penchant for getting happy feet and throwing ill-advised passes remind me a little too much of Quincy Carter, another talented blue-chip recruit with a big arm.

By scdawg

February 17, 2009 2:33 PM | Link to this

Preston Jones had all the talent but Goff went with Greg Talley. No chance for Jones. I heard he just had a 2nd operation on his right wrist from breaking it in the alumni G-day game.

By toby cash

February 17, 2009 2:34 PM | Link to this

Tarkenton and then the question is “who is second”?

By MK52

February 17, 2009 2:36 PM | Link to this

st. simons

Stafford has the worst deep ball ever? That is simply insane!!!

If you would like I can point out several instances where Stafford excelled at the deep ball. As a matter of fact, I think it’s what he did best!!!

By GeoffDawg

February 17, 2009 2:36 PM | Link to this

Ed, don’t forget about ‘07 bama game. The game winner 25 yard throw to Mikey Henderson in the back corner of the end zone. That pass couldn’t have been more on the money.

By chuck carswell

February 17, 2009 2:42 PM | Link to this

Sir Francis

If we are talking about the best UGA QB we can’t look at the pros. If that were the case Terrell Davis would be UGA’s best running back.

There are a few QBs who get honorable mention: DJ, Bobo (1 great season), Ray Goff, Richard Appelby (1 great pass)

Then there are those we love just because: Preston Jones, John Lastinger, Jeff Pyburn

By Doug

February 17, 2009 2:44 PM | Link to this

It has to be David Greene. Yes Stafford can throw the ball 80 yds. But what good is that when it is 5 yds ahead of the receiver. And what does the fact that he is going to be a first rounder have to do with his college legacy? Stafford proved time and time again that he could not hit the long over the shoulder touch pass. If the defender is on the receiver he can’t complete that pass. Greene had accuracy I have never seen before. That’s why I look forward to Joe Cox, he has the same type accuracy. Green played 13 more games than Stafford and had one more interception. In my book, Stafford is 3rd orf 4th on this list: Greene Zeier Tarkenton Stafford… and what about Belue…ya he didn’t have the stats because we ran all the time, duh…HW…, but how many of the other’s have a national championship?

By gtforever

February 17, 2009 2:47 PM | Link to this

MAN, you bulldawg fans are incredidble… It’s not even close. Fran Tarkenton is the best QB to come out of UGAY. The other guys don’t even compare!

By MK52

February 17, 2009 2:54 PM | Link to this

I have to say that Greene is the best ever. Wins, Championship, Stats, Leadership. It’s all there.

I was just responding to an earlier post about Stafford’s deep throwing ability and defending it.

By And the Best Is...and Why

February 17, 2009 2:56 PM | Link to this

The best qb Georgia is Stafford. Why? In addition to the stats he came to GA with a Texas high school qb pedigree. It’s hard to be humble when you come from the best state high school football system in the country.

By Danny

February 17, 2009 2:58 PM | Link to this

Stafford was a Georgia player. Greene was a Georgia winner. The question is Ga. QB, not NFL QB.

By Coach Smith

February 17, 2009 3:07 PM | Link to this

DAVID GREENE = The WINNINGEST QB in the HISTORY OF MAJOR COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Rank em= #1 David Greene #2 Buck Belue #3 Fran Tarkenton #4 Matt Stafford #5 Eric Zier

By PTC DAWG

February 17, 2009 3:08 PM | Link to this

It certainly doesn’t make Stafford the best QB to ever play at UGA, but anyone who says the potential of him being picked #1 in the NFL draft doesn’t help UGA….well, they would be IDIOTS of the highest order.

By hedgepruner

February 17, 2009 3:20 PM | Link to this

that one is EASY, Reggie Ball is the best QB uga ever had …thank God “Reggie & Chan” are gone forever….

By how2fish

February 17, 2009 3:22 PM | Link to this

The guy with the national title gets my vote..yards,wins..where they go in the NFL draft or how well they do in the NFL means nada to me we are talking COLLEGE QB’s..and any College QB that wins the College National title gets my vote..frankly my dear after college I really don’t give a damn.

By Jimmy"Superfly"Snuka

February 17, 2009 3:23 PM | Link to this

I would simply say who cares?

By monty

February 17, 2009 3:25 PM | Link to this

Buck Belue, he won it all and almost won it again except for the last second heoics of Dan Marino if my memory serves me right. He was just a winner!

By MoDawg

February 17, 2009 3:27 PM | Link to this

Greene is #1, by far. Tarkenton is #2, Belue, Bobo, Bratkowski, Shockley, Goff and Stafford are all top-10.

If Stafford had stayed another year, he had a shot at top-5 and if Shockley had a couple more years as the starter, we might be arguing him against Tarkenton for #2. Shockley, in his 1 year as the starter was amazing, but he was behind the NCAA all-time leader in wins. Imagine that - we had 2 of the best QBs in UGA’s history on the same roster.

Hopefully we will be able to say something similar in a few years about Cox, Logan, Murray and Mettenberger being on the same roster.

By st simons

February 17, 2009 3:28 PM | Link to this

45-42 !!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

By Joel in ATL

February 17, 2009 3:29 PM | Link to this

Out the three Qb’s you could debate for years. Each are the best in their own right but if I had to start a team today I would have to choose Eric Zier. Being 11-13 years old while Zeier was under center all he truley lacked after his sophmore season was a quailty running gaem. After Garrison Hearst left he had to deal with Terrell Davis who ha da great pro career but was not used enough by Ray Goff at UGA. Zeire was only haunted by Florida an Tennesse which prevented him from playing and possibly winning an SEC Title. Stafford would be my second Choice and Greene by thrid even thogh Greene did win the SEC Title out the three, his teasm were much more balanced than Zeier’s or Staff’s.

By Rico

February 17, 2009 3:30 PM | Link to this

Quincy Carter! Hands down!

GO JACKETS!

By GT Fan

February 17, 2009 3:31 PM | Link to this

I vote for Reggie Ball. You guys need to retire his number.

By Quincy Carter

February 17, 2009 3:32 PM | Link to this

Whba bout meba…

By Quincy Carter

February 17, 2009 3:33 PM | Link to this

Whba bout meba…

By the real OLD GOLD

February 17, 2009 3:36 PM | Link to this

Greene whipped us every year. I got respect for him. Stafford wasn’t a team player. Zeier’s an idiot.

By RxDawg

February 17, 2009 3:37 PM | Link to this

Well, after reading all the coments and taking into a lot of good facts and stats that people have said I think I have a conclusion. Frank Tarkenton seems like he was quite a stud. And this comes from a younger dawg. I wish I could of gotten to see him play. I think he gets the nod over all of them for all he accomplished. Remeber folks, the NC was decided in a VERY different way back then and for all purposes can just be thrown out the window for consideration. Anyways, 1. Frank T 2. Greene 3. Shockley

Any after that I just don’t know enough about to make an informed decision.

By GeoffDawg

February 17, 2009 3:51 PM | Link to this

Zeier’s an idiot? What the hell are you talking about old gold? He was certainly smart enough to kick your butts four years in a row.

Also, I wonder if the nats making fun of Quincy Carter are even aware that they’re demonstrating their blatant hypocrisy. Do you not remember that Carter started out a yellow jacket before playing minor league baseball? He dropped you, not the other way around.

By Music City Dawg

February 17, 2009 4:08 PM | Link to this

I’d take Greene or Shockley over Stafford any day of the week. Period. I wish the kid luck, but I have my doubts. Yes, he’s got a laser rocket arm, but he makes bone-head decisions. Maybe he’ll fine-tune his skills in the Pros, but I doubt it.

Like Ron White says, ‘you can’t fix stupid.’

I’m sure that comment is going to tick a lot of people off, but that’s just how I feel. I’m excited about next year. I think we will do well because nobody expects us to. Only time will tell.

By JCSmalls

February 17, 2009 4:16 PM | Link to this

Green, no question. Stafford is overhyped and I am glad he is gone.

By DC Dawg

February 17, 2009 4:20 PM | Link to this

Who’s the greatest UGA quarterback? That’s a simple question. Simple answer: Buck Belue. Why, you say? No cannon for an arm, he wasn’t a big runner or very fast. The reason is that he LED his team to a national championship. He had the intangibles to put it all together with his personal charisma and that of his personal friend and teammate Herschel Walker. The bottom line is that the team with the most points wins the game. Buck Belue made it happen for the Glory Year of 1980-81. He’s the greatest. End of story…

By The Answer

February 17, 2009 4:21 PM | Link to this

It’s about wins and championships. David Greene.

By DirtyDawg

February 17, 2009 4:23 PM | Link to this

Fran Tarkenton….Andy Johnson…Zeke Bratkowski…now those were quarterbacks. At the same time what do you mean ‘best ever’? Winningest? Most Skilled? Best all-around running and passing? Won the National Championship? Well, there’s Green, then there’s Stafford, then there’s Shockley or even Ridelhuber, and, finally, there’s Belue.

By AltamahaDawg

February 17, 2009 4:31 PM | Link to this

tech fans piping in on a conversation about the best ever UGA QB…………..really??

By College Football Has no National Champion

February 17, 2009 4:36 PM | Link to this

David Greene is the best QB at UGA ever, followed by Tarkenton, Rauch, and Eric Z.

Being chronologically fortunate enough to be on the same team as Herchal and the Erk’s defenses doesn’t make you good.

And again, since College Football doesn’t have a real national championship, wins and conference championships should matter and David Greene had both.

By BravesFan79

February 17, 2009 4:42 PM | Link to this

Eric Zier was the best QB ive ever seen play for UGA. David Greene would be 2nd on my list.

By Oledawg

February 17, 2009 4:43 PM | Link to this

Wow! Great posts. It’s great to see Shockley get all this love. We have great and knowledgeable Dawgs on here and DJ was my first pick. Greene and Hines Ward come to mind as Dawgs through and through. I’ve watched since Fran played. He was a great athletic scrambler and ground out the wins he had but DJ was the most all around athlete with great talent at QB. Take his year and put it up against any single year of anyone. Greene played the best year in comparison, except for Belue’s year. If DJ had been QB for 3-4yrs, we could compare better. His comparison shouldn’t be blighted by lack of years nor the athletes that supported him. This is an attempt to compare athletically. I don’t have a self-witness opinion of earlier athletes and would remind everyone to read closely the testimony of the “real old Dawgs”.

While there is no question as to QBs being loyal to the team, DJ’s loyalty is one of sacrifice that should rank highest of all. He hung, knowing how well he played the position, and watched Greene rack up the wins. Never a whimper. His Dad gave him sound advice for betterment of his life and advocated he transfer in order to start elsewhere. He showed his true character as a Bulldog after being recruited as best in Georgia. His loyalty was to our team above what was best for him. He sat and waited behind the winningest QB in NCAA history. No other Bulldog of great ability was asked to wait those years; therefore, the best person, and most loyal Dawg to play the position and win was DJ Shockley. In one year he was the best QB that Georgia has ever had. What would he have done with 3-4 yrs?

RxDawg- That might be Fran Tarkenton. Might even be Francis.

By MoDawg

February 17, 2009 4:43 PM | Link to this

DC Dawg With all due respect, Herschel took A TON of pressure off of Buck Belue. I agree that Buck’s charisma and leadership skills were very high, but if defenses had to worry about a running back like Herschel when Greene was there, Greene’s stats would be even more impressive than they are and he might even have a MNC or two under his belt.

Buck is definitely top-10, maybe even top-5, but he’s not the best. The NC in 1980 was mostly Herschel and the entire team, of which Belue was a big part.

By sofunny

February 17, 2009 4:47 PM | Link to this

I find it very laughable how the Dawg fans and the AJC love to talk about the “greatness” of the likes of Greene and Zier and now Stafford; but just answer one question - what did these guys do in the pros? NOTHING - because when it came to “the big show” they sucked; and sorry to tell you dawg fans this, but so will Stafford.

By virgilshouse

February 17, 2009 4:52 PM | Link to this

i have to agree its reggie ball……………………he helped uga to 4 wins

By Phildo

February 17, 2009 4:53 PM | Link to this

The best is a fun game, but who would start if you put them on the same team may be a better indication. UGAG has had many excellent QB’s, but my sentimental favorites are Larry Rakestraw and Lynn Hughes. Yeah, I know they get lost in the maze, they were both tough, albeit not flashy, hombres.

By DunwoodyDawg

February 17, 2009 4:54 PM | Link to this

David Greene, was not even the best QB on campus during his tenure. DJ was head and shoulders ahead of Greene. Bottom line is that Buck Belue is the greatest to ever wear the Red and Black. He won it all and yes he had a great team around him, but does that make him any less of a winner. Until another QB takes us to the promise land he will be the best in recent history.

By pc

February 17, 2009 4:57 PM | Link to this

David Greene - nothing more need be said.

By Dawg Fud

February 17, 2009 4:58 PM | Link to this

Greene or Shockley. Zeir was damn good though. for a 5’10 guy he could zip it.

pure talent, Stafford. even David Green would tell you that. but we’re talking W’s & L’s. Greene or Shockley.

By whatfar

February 17, 2009 5:02 PM | Link to this

I don’t understand many of you talking about DJ being the best QB out of UGA. How could that be so?? He rode the bench for 5 years. If he was “so good” why did he not start until his senior year? If he was sooo good, why the hades is he #3 (or 4) in the Atlanta line-up, behind an ACC player. Just shows how much history many of you dawg fans reaaly know - Fran Tarkenton was the best QB at GA. Greene, Stafford and Zier would be his waterboys. BTW - what impact in the pros has Greene and Zier and Shockley had compared to the Tark?? ZERO. And one other thing - if Buleu was so good, what happened to his “pro” years?

By Dawg Fud

February 17, 2009 5:03 PM | Link to this

Dunwoody Dawg

i disagree. too close to call between those two.

point in case:

Tennessee 2004, Athens, Greene struggled all afternoon. DJ comes in and leads team to its first TD drive. Richt should have played him the remainder fo the afternoon. Dawgs would’ve won.

Tech 2004, Athens, Shockley has to play b/c Greene broke his thumb. Shockley has miserable day in the rain. the ball is one-hopping into receivers hands is underthrowing so badly. Greene has to get thumb taped up and return to seal the game.

Greene or Shockley. too close to call. i rest my case.

GO DAWGS!

By Dawg Fud

February 17, 2009 5:07 PM | Link to this

Tarkenton, damn good dawg.

By James Moore

February 17, 2009 5:14 PM | Link to this

Greene is the obvios winner, in this debat. He has a better record, passing yards, TDs, and pretty much every thing else.

By Hope Springs Eternal

February 17, 2009 5:22 PM | Link to this

The best was Tarkenton.

It is unfortunate that Stafford never had anyone better than Bobo to guide him along during his career at Georgia. I wonder what he might have accomplished had he had someone like David Cutcliff to mentor him during those years?

By Pitbull

February 17, 2009 5:28 PM | Link to this

I have been watching the Dawgs since 1969. David Greene was the most dependable, steady leader at QB I have ever seen play for the Dogs.

A 42-10 record 80% winning percentage over 4 years is outstanding, and that includes an 8-4 record when he started his freshman year which was Coach Richt’s first year.

Outstanding

A QB that did not get a mention was Matt Robinson in the 1970’s. He was a pure drop back passer and quarterbacked Georgia to it’s 21-0 win over Alabama in 1975 or 1976. Unfortunately for him, Coach Dooley favored running QB’s and Ray Goff played a lot more than he did. Matt played first string QB for the Jets for a while and was fun to watch.

By John

February 17, 2009 5:37 PM | Link to this

Who cares? Georgia hasn’t won a National Championship in 30 years and they won’t win one any time soon

By coolcell

February 17, 2009 5:43 PM | Link to this

1.DJ Shockley 2.E.Zier 3.M.Stafford 4.D.Greene 5.Q.Carter

Bouns Question? Who was the first Black QB @ UGA?

By AfroDawg

February 17, 2009 5:52 PM | Link to this

Reggie Ball played for Tech, but he blew so many games against Georgia, that he was always a Dawg’s fan favorite at Sanford stadium. Thanks for the memories Reggie.

By AfroDawg

February 17, 2009 5:55 PM | Link to this

Bonus answer: Anthony Flanagan.

By Jeff

February 17, 2009 5:57 PM | Link to this

Who gives a hoot?

By redman

February 17, 2009 5:58 PM | Link to this

WHO GIVES A SHOT ? The Dumb Fans who flip & bich would not know the difference. The dawgs are just that, dawgs. Fran, is the Only !

By Otto

February 17, 2009 6:07 PM | Link to this

If you go back and look at win loss records Johnny Rauch certainly looks good. 1946 11-0 4 bowl starts ‘45-48. Only Greene competes with those numbers.

By Tech Fan

February 17, 2009 6:21 PM | Link to this

Greene is the best ever UGA QB and one of the best ever college QBs because he made the players around him better. Stafford is an exceptional talent, but not a great leader. You can’t give Stafford points for what he may do in the NFL.

By Lane

February 17, 2009 6:26 PM | Link to this

Probably Tarkenton, because of success in the pros and college.

Woud like to see a list of GA, Qb’s who have played in the NFL.

Matt Robinson was interesting as was Rick Arrington(who finished @ Tulsa-i believe)

By turkey

February 17, 2009 6:27 PM | Link to this

If its about over all physical ability then the answer has to be Stafford. If its about leadership then it has to either Belue or Greene. Just think a mix of Stafford’s ability with Belue or Greene’s leadership, man what a player.

By trudog

February 17, 2009 6:35 PM | Link to this

Wow, there must not be anything at all to write about!! Who the hell cares?? This is the most stupid article I have read in AJC history. Some decent people couldn’t care less who is inbred nation’s best qb. LAMO!!!

By Brian

February 17, 2009 6:36 PM | Link to this

I would like to have seen Shockley play more. He had the legs to scramble out of trouble and throw on the run better than any QB we have had. It’s hard to say who’s the best because i think Stafford will be an NFL starter for somebody, unlike Greene. Stafford could have broke Greene’s career passing yards and TD passes as well had he stayed. Good luck to all the dawgs in the NFL and let’s hope we haven’t seen the greatest QB yet.

By Boog

February 17, 2009 7:00 PM | Link to this

Zeier was the best in my view. If he would have played for Richt and VanGorder the way Greene did he would have won as much if not more. He was the best pure passer and leader UGA has ever had. Stafford has the most potential and Greene was the most productive…but if Zeier would have had what they had…it would not be close.

By EAGLE

February 17, 2009 7:24 PM | Link to this

STAY TUNED BEST QB YET TO COME.

By Big MIKE

February 17, 2009 7:26 PM | Link to this

D.J. Shocley, Any kid that good, and stayed as loyal as he did, and won a SEC title in the one year he started, deserves some consideration. Imaging if he wasn’t hurt against UF, that same year, we go undefeated in the regular season.

By DRB

February 17, 2009 7:27 PM | Link to this

Fran Tarkenton no discussion!

By rego

February 17, 2009 7:32 PM | Link to this

David Greebe was not even the best quarterback on the Georgia team.

By chazz

February 17, 2009 7:36 PM | Link to this

I am stickin’ with Fran. He did it all at UGA without much support up front and went on to do great in the NFL.

By hedgepruner

February 17, 2009 7:37 PM | Link to this

JOHN DEWBERRY- I will never forget his photo in the AJC sports page with a giant piece of the hedges in his mouth….

By Navigator

February 17, 2009 7:39 PM | Link to this

I think this choice is easy: Fran Tarkenton. First look at an outstanding career at Georgia, when Butts was starting to slip as a coach and recruiter. Next look at his storied career in the NFL (including super bowls), and finally held many NFL records when he retired. Not least, he’s an NFL hall of fame QB.

By LADG

February 17, 2009 7:40 PM | Link to this

We can quibble, which is why this is fun, but to not MENTION Fran Tarkenton is wild.

And, maybe a footnote is in order. I read a comment that all that mattered was what someone did while at UGA, not later. I thought we were talking about the best QB.

If we want to start a list of the “successful” QB’s (determined, I guess from this blog, by how many games their team won in the years they were there — which would mean that, if applied year-by-year, Joe Flacco is a better NFL QB than Brett Farve) who disappeared when they got to the next level, it would be a very long one. I, for one, think Tarkenton was a helluva quarterback. Kind of hard to suggest that he’s not as good a QB as Eric Z. Sorry, but that’s just silly.

BTW, as to Stafford, the best QB is not, in my estimation, the guy who can throw the football 100 yards in the air. If so, an old trainer at ND would qualify. That work out film only goes to show you that raw skill is only part of the equation. Nothing against Stafford, generally, but the pros are drafting him on his skill set, not his field presence or decision-making. In fact, if you read the scouting reports, those are areas of concern for teams, not pluses.

The most skilled at the position (depending on how you define “skilled” might be Stafford). The best QB? Not.

By Tom Trojan

February 17, 2009 7:43 PM | Link to this

Fran Tarkenton! Too bad most of the bloggers never saw him play, he was a jewel, both in college and in the NFL! Shockley the best ‘Running/throwing’ QB at UGA? LMAO, obviously he never saw Tark play! No matter who plays QB at UGA….GO DAWGS

By Pi$$onaDawg

February 17, 2009 8:10 PM | Link to this

When a UGA QB can play in the NFL not just hold a clipboard then they can be the best UGA QB. It is so funny that Q. Carter started more NFL games than all the other QBs you mentioned and he is Stoned/ Stupid as a Football Bat. #10 Fran Tarkington is the Only UGA QB to be considered in this non-debate.

By Rod

February 17, 2009 8:12 PM | Link to this

How is DJ Shockley NOT in that pole? What Shockley did as a one year starter is alomost unbelievable. Shockley and Eric were held the single season TD passing record ever at UGA. Stafford broke it this year but what Shockley did in year to be voted the 3rd best player in college football that year and to win an SEC title and be the MVP of the SEC Championship game deserves to be ranked as the best to me. How long was it before we won an SEC title before Greene and Shockley came along.

By Uncle Dave

February 17, 2009 8:19 PM | Link to this

I never saw Tarkenton play in college, but he sure was fun to watch on Sundays. Zeier, was terrific, but that A** whipping from Spurrier in Athens still stings. The best quarterback of the modern era was David Greene. I am convinced, however, that had coach Richt not taken DJ Shockley out of the Clemson game in his first year, when he was obviously the better player on that day, Greene would have had a hard time getting as much PT the rest of the way. Greene came back in that game and stunk it up and Georgia lost … Shockley was hurt several games later and never had a chance to compete after that because Greene elevated his game in the interum .

The best passer of them all was Matt Robinson… Vince Dooley liked Ray Goff better (god help us all) and only put Robinson in for the 8 passing plays that they were going to run every game. He was known as “Old third and long.” Robinson was drafted by the Jets and was successful as the starter there before getting hurt (Goff never put on an NFL uniform and opted instead to destroy Georgia’s reputation as a national power in the early 90’s). If Robinson had played in Mark Richt’s offense, he could have really been something.

Buck Belue was a great quarterback and a better than average passer. He just wasn’t big or strong enough to make it in the NFL. In college, Dooley tried to do the same thing with Belue and Jeff Pyburn that he did with Goff and Robinson. .. but it did not work and 79 was a dreadful year. If Belue had been the starter things could have been much better.

Stafford was the most talented of the bunch, but face it… quarterbacks are judged by more than how well they perform in a workout. They are judged by how well they lead their team through adversity… he was very good and he worked hard, but this year taints his legacy as one of the all time greats. He is a taller Zeier. neither of them has a championship. What Stafford has done is to put Georgia on the charts for national recruits… let’s all hope he does get drafted #1 and find success in the NFL. Additionally, Quincy Carter could have been the best of them all… but we now know why he never realized his potential. I recently watched a tape of Carter’s game against LSU his first year as the starter… he was amazing. What a waste of talent.

By dawg3fan4

February 17, 2009 8:23 PM | Link to this

Greene…most TD’s and fewest int’s at the same time. Best record. As far as college he was the best. Best pro go back to Tarkenton for now and call me back in 10 years on Stafford.

By sogadog

February 17, 2009 8:26 PM | Link to this

Fran the Man. Sinkwich, Zeke Bratkowski, Zier, BoBo, Green, Stafford.

By kfc

February 17, 2009 8:33 PM | Link to this

oh my goodness, dj shockley without a doubt…most unfortunate that he and greene were there at the same time…coach richt would never admit this in the media, but i believe he would say that shockley, with the exception of charlie ward, was the exact type of athlete he would prefer to have at qb…most importantly, shockley is an outstanding person, to wait his turn, to be thrown into games at times for one or two series and not be given the chance he deserved…greene should not be taken for granted, outstanding poise, played with most likely georgia’s best players and teams during his tenure…when shockley got his chance we won the sec, we lost to fla, a game we would have won had shockley not been injured, we lost to auburn when our defense inexpicably gave up the only play possible that allowed us to snatch defeat from the hands of victory, and we lost the sugar bowl when our coaches fell asleep on special teams, we were going to win that game at the end because shockley was the best player on the field that nite!…shockley and knowshon would have been stupid good!!

By BigNCDawg

February 17, 2009 8:46 PM | Link to this

I saw him play in highschool and at UGA. Tarkenton was the best. Us oldtimers know, and what a great pro career he had.

By Chip Towers

February 17, 2009 8:55 PM | Link to this

Good call on Shockley and Tarkenton. No telling how good either might have been in college had they not had to share time or play behind others. I’ve always been impressed with Preston Ridlehuber to, or at least the stories I’ve heard and the film I’ve seen. He won at Michigan in ‘65 did he not? …

Actually it wasn’t my intention really to get into the best quarterback of all time thing. Like I said, my debate with my buddy started over Stafford versus Greene, not who’s the greatest of all time. That’s such a broad argument that could never really get resolved. But like we’ve seen here today, everybody has an opinion on it… .

Thanks to the many folks who weighed in.

By BigNCDawg

February 17, 2009 8:58 PM | Link to this

At Athens high he beat Valdosta to win the state championship. I think he ran the opening kickoff back for a touchdown. He was a champion in highschool, UGA, and division championship in the pro’s. There is no contest as to who is the best.

By hop

February 17, 2009 9:07 PM | Link to this

when tarkenton played,qb’s also had to play defense and francis was a great defensive back as well.

i don’t know too many previous qb’s who could have played defense except for dj. maybe, buck belue,or matt robinson.

By PAUL3084

February 17, 2009 9:48 PM | Link to this

I can’t give an opinion on Fran T. However, IMO Greene was the best QB for the dawgs. He was solid and led the dawgs to some big time victories. Stafford won some big games no doubt but he also put the defense in terrible situations at times and managed to kill a few game changing drives in the process.

By Johnny DangerDawg

February 17, 2009 10:01 PM | Link to this

One Voice, you said it perfectly. With the game on the line, you want Greene in there. I’ll name two of the little things he could do that Stafford did not do. 1. Change the play-count to get the opposing defensive to jump early and cough up penalty yards EVERY GAME. 2. Throw the ball away when nothing’s open. Stafford really didn’t throw too many picks, but he sometimes got sacked because he held onto the ball too long when all his receivers were covered.

By War Eagle

February 17, 2009 10:10 PM | Link to this

The best

1. Fran Tarkenton 2. Eric Zeir 3. David Greene

The worst, Quincy Carter

Best QB coach 1. Mark Richt 2. Doc Ayers

By Johnny DangerDawg

February 17, 2009 10:13 PM | Link to this

Chip Towers, I realize that Stafford had the stronger arm, but it’s not as if Greene never threw the deep ball. Any chance you could get us some comparison data on how many deep balls (passes of 30+ yards) each QB threw in each of his seasons? I feel like Greene may have actually completed more deep passes because he was so good at play-action fakes.

By JMO

February 17, 2009 10:26 PM | Link to this

Sorry didn’t have time to read all.

This decade easy…Greene was best UGA QB. What they do or don’t do in NFL has nothing to do with it.

All-time? Agree with Chip, it would take a long in depth analysis to compare different eras. Just because most are not pleased with his coaching tenure, Goff was a helluva QB. However, there were several great ones in earlier times. Tarkenton wasn’t as outstanding in college as NFL because of the system, talents, etc.

By GeoffDawg

February 17, 2009 10:30 PM | Link to this

Mentioning Shockley in this debate is just kind of silly. He did have one heck of a senior season but can anyone really give him consideration for the best of all time based on one season? Leading up to his senior year, most of Dawg Nation was extremely nervous at the prospect of Shockley as the starting QB. He was given a ton of playing time in the preceding seasons and most knowledgeable Georgia fans were left with the distinct impression that he wasn’t starting QB material based on his lack of poise and decision making. I remember people getting p** off that Greene was taken out of the game certain that a three and out or a turnover was soon to follow.

By Maddog

February 17, 2009 10:35 PM | Link to this

Pi$$onaDawg said Quincy Carter “is Stoned/ Stupid as a Football Bat.” May be a true statement, however, he WAS smart enough to originally sign a letter of intent to GT. So much for the “smarter athlete” myth! LMAO. Thanks for clearing things up Pi$$onaU.

By Gen Neyland

February 17, 2009 10:43 PM | Link to this

If I were a Dawg, I’d say our best QB hasn’t taken a snap yet. But alas, I’m a Vol…

……..BuLLbuddy

I finally got to respond to your rantings from this AM…I left it in our ‘secret place’ on Chip’s old blog…

By crabapplejoe

February 17, 2009 10:47 PM | Link to this

R.A wrote: “Greene was not even the best QB on his team, regardless of his stats or wins.” Pleez….you and the AJC are the only ones who come close to believing that BS. The entire time Greene was starting and becoming the winningest QB the AJC tried to create a “quarterback controversy”.

By 74Dawg

February 17, 2009 10:57 PM | Link to this

It is Greene . Stafford,like Zeier,did not win . Greene was a winner, had a high completion % and was the acknowledged leader on the team. I also remember some plays where he went back in w/ the game on the line,draggig limbs behind. Just a gutsy,cold blooded, great college QB. That said, I love them all. And If you ask My Dad, He will tell you Bratkowski. And the guy who mentioned Tark,what can you say about a guy who retired as the leading passer in NFL history? Hopefully we have a few more of these type guys coming along soon…

By Bishopbulldawg

February 17, 2009 11:34 PM | Link to this

This one should be a no brainer … FRAN THE MAN TARKENTON

By Ed Danforth

February 18, 2009 12:02 AM | Link to this

Zeier was tough as nails playing behind the slowest line in the history of college football. No telling what he could have done behind a great line and if he had a decent head coach. Also, being 4-5 inches taller mighta helped.

By CP

February 18, 2009 12:02 AM | Link to this

Stafford came to UGA as the largest and best QB recruit in our history. He leaves without a single major accomplishment. He was good, but not the leader that we needed for the next step. This is ashame due to the fact that we had / have a level of talent that no other UGA quarterback has ever enjoyed.

By joe

February 18, 2009 12:07 AM | Link to this

LOL! The David Greene fanboys make me laugh. Greene is a damn good dawg, but he’s a no talent hack compared to Stafford. The biggest difference was Greene played behind far better offensive lines most of his career, while Stafford played behind lines that ranged from mediocre to dreadful. Greene also played with the best defenses ever at UGA, and Stafford played with garbage defenses aside from a 6 game stretch the last half of the 2007 season. Huge difference.

Look at what Stafford did for UGA and look at what Greene did for UGA. As much as I love Stafford, he will be forgotten simply because he did nothing for Georgia. Unlike Stafford, Greene put trophies in our trophy case. What did Stafford do? A #1 draft pick (hopefully!) and a successful NFL career (hopefull) means nothing for UGA.

Oh please! Shut up. David Greene didn’t put a damn thing in our trophy case. He simply benefited from having truly great defenses that won the vast majority of his games for him. If he had played with the defenses Stafford played with he would have struggled to win half the number of games Stafford did. Lest you forget, Stafford won 30 games in 3 season, and didn’t start 5 games of his freshman numbers. Had he returned, he would have had a legitimate shot to catch Green, and with a bit of luck and a good defense, maybe even pass him.

By Colorado Dawg

February 18, 2009 12:07 AM | Link to this

Ed… Ray Goff did not play in a National Championship game. We lost 76 Sugar Bowl to Pitt who were National Camps but GA was not ranked #2. He was okay running the veer but couldn’t throw a lick. More a RB than a QB.

I saw Fran as a Viking but my dad said he was the greatest @ UGA. For me it would be either Zeir or Greene. Yes BB QBed a Natl Champ but he had Herschel and a great L and D in 80. If the game was on the line, I’d want Greene.

I actually think Cox will be okay. Remember he saved our butts a major embarrassment vs CO a few years ago when Stafford was choking.

By joe

February 18, 2009 12:16 AM | Link to this

It is Greene . Stafford,like Zeier,did not win . Greene was a winner,

What the heck are you smoking? Stafford won 30 games in 3 years and didn’t even start 5 games in those 3 seasons, and he won those games behind medicore, inexperience, and injury riddled offensive lines, as well as with bad defenses. Give Stafford the offensives lines and the defense that Greene played behind and he surpasses Greene’s win total easily. Hell, if he comes back for his senior season, he may have caught Greene anyway, assuming his line stayed healthy and the defense pulled it’s weight.

He leaves without a single major accomplishment. He was good, but not the leader that we needed for the next step.

Some of you idiots are beyond stupid. Call me when football becomes a 1-man sport. Tom Brady couldn’t have done anything with the teams Stafford played with.

By joe

February 18, 2009 12:19 AM | Link to this

I actually think Cox will be okay. Remember he saved our butts a major embarrassment vs CO a few years ago when Stafford was choking.

Yeah, and earned the starting job the next week against Ole Miss(I believe) and choked big time. Stafford had to come in and save his a*. If you don’t think there is going to be a major dropoff at the QB spot next season, then you’re a fool.

By heybud1508

February 18, 2009 12:23 AM | Link to this

The best UGA QB while at UGA was David Greene.

The professional QB to come out of UGA was Fran Tarkenton.

My personal favorite UGA QB was Mike Bobo.

By Billy

February 18, 2009 12:32 AM | Link to this

Who cares. 45-42. Try not to burn the fries…dogs.

By Johnny DangerDawg

February 18, 2009 12:36 AM | Link to this

Colorado Dawg,

If there’s one thing Richt’s good at, it’s developing QBs. And Coach Bobo is going to build the new offense around Joe’s strengths. Joe knows the playbook. Plus, he’ll finally have an O-line without true freshmen, which means the tight ends can start catching passes again. Bottom line: if Joe Cox can complete half of his passes and not turn the ball over (and I believe he’s capable), Dawgs will repeat their 2008 record.

By Mike T.

February 18, 2009 1:02 AM | Link to this

…Lynn Hughes,Kirby Moore,Mike Cavan,Andy Johnson, Ray Goff, Matt Robinson,Jeff Pyburn,Buck Belue, John Lastinger,James Jackson,Wayne Johnson,Greg Talley,Eric Zier,Mike Bobo,Quincy Carter,Preston Jones,David Greene,DJ Shockley,Joe T. Matthew Stafford…

My pick Buck Belue,only one that has a NC.

By Stan Oliver

February 18, 2009 2:54 AM | Link to this

FRAN TARKENTON DID NOT HAVE THE BEST ARM OF ALL THE GREAT Q.B.’S (STAFFORD DID); BUT, TARKENTON WAS THE ULTIMATE Q.B. HE WAS A LEADER AND HE WAS A WINNER. I SHALL NEVER FORGET HIS MAKING UP THAT PLAY IN THE HUDDLE TO BEAT AUBURN ON 4TH AND 13 AT THE GOAL… SEC CHAMPS !!! There have been scores of great ones: Rauch, Bratkowski, Zier, Belue, Britt, Tarkenton etc. etc. Fran Tarkenton was tops !!!!!!

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 18, 2009 3:51 AM | Link to this

Charley Trippi.

By hop

February 18, 2009 5:30 AM | Link to this

if david greene,eric zier or buck belue were the best qb at georgia , why did they not play in the pros?

they were simply not good enough!that is the ultimate test pure and simple!if you are the best, you must be able to play with the “big boys”. only tarkenton, raugh, and zeke were able to prove they were the best. the jury is out on stafford!

david greene won because of the system, buck won because of herschel, just look at 1979, the dawgs were 6-5 nough said.

zier won because georgia threw all the time.

By SickandTired

February 18, 2009 6:50 AM | Link to this

Hey BuLLdawg…..are you too much of an idiot to read the question on the test before you spout off your crap? The question was who is the best UGA quarterback. Not who is the best NFL quarterback. Now that may be stretching your brain cells to the limits but don’t worry, more intelligent people can easily determine the answer. Whether it’s Eric, David, Fran or whoever, it is anyone but the person who succeeds at the next level. That has absolutely nothing to do with the answer to the question. Now, thanks for playing and we have some parting gifts for you.

By w. butts

February 18, 2009 7:16 AM | Link to this

Stafford? Are you kidding me? What championship did that mercenary ever win? It was all about Stafford, never the team. Good riddance. Greene was steady and Belue won a NC, but Tarkenton was the best, no doubt about it.

By AltamahaDawg

February 18, 2009 7:55 AM | Link to this

Zeier only won because Georgia threw all the time?? I think its safe to say thay the reason they were throwing all the time is because of Zeier.

I think the same thing could be said about a “system” that was tailored specifically for Greene. I dont think you just plug just anyone in those year and produce the winniest QB in the entire history of organized college football.

It still comes down to this: is the guestion best to “have” played at Georgia or best “while” playing at Georgia.

By Greg Talley

February 18, 2009 8:12 AM | Link to this

Greene. Hands down. No contest. Think of it this way - Who were you most comfortable with behind center when the game was on the line. He was like a robot that CMR programed. It was as if CMR was in there throwing the ball. Every time Greene dropped back the last thing you thought about was a pick. Can’t say that about Stafford. Stafford’s got all the tools but he’s human. He’s a nice guy but he’s a little selfish and I think that’s got him into trouble. Greene was a machine that made throw after throw. Zeier was great but he didn’t win anything. Oh yeah and what about me, Greg Talley!

By GeoffDawg

February 18, 2009 8:28 AM | Link to this

Geez joe - who dropped a deuce in your cheerios?

By TexasDawg

February 18, 2009 8:36 AM | Link to this

READ THE ARTICLE!

“I got into a pretty good debate the other day with a friend of mine about who was the better Georgia quarterback, Matthew Stafford or David Greene”.

Both arguments DO NOT have merit!

HOW CAN ANYONE THINK THAT STAFFORD WAS A BETTER GEORGIA QUATERBACK.>>>>>>HE NEVER EVEN WON THE EAST!!!!!NEVER WON THE SEC!!!!

YEA GOT YOU…he had lots of PRO potential….don’t watch the NFL that much but I NEVER miss UGA play!

BSET GEOrgia QB’s not what they may or may not do well in the PROS…….(TIE)Greene because of his complete body of work and BUCK of course! Zier…then STafford

By cjones

February 18, 2009 8:49 AM | Link to this

Greene will always be the man. He loved Georgia and Georgia loved him. Stafford never gave his heart to the team, and certainly not to the fans, but brought “most” of it to “some” of the games. That will always be his rap. David Greene inspired all of us. Stafford made us scratch our heads. David Greene was the whole package for the college game. Stafford may do well in the NFL. We’ll see: But Georgia fans never loved him like we loved David Greene. Don’t forget about Mike Bobo, either. Those Bobo teams were pretty cool, too. Hmmm, I guess I like the “team” QBs better than the “arm” QBs. And, that’s right, there is always Buck. And Fran. But there will always be David Greene because he started this resurgence we are now living. No one has ever run that fake better than Greenie. How many times did Stafford get sacked trying to sell that play? By the way, here comes another good team QB: Joe Cox.

By 87dawg

February 18, 2009 9:03 AM | Link to this

Think about this, when Zeier played he was pretty much it on offense. Every defense knew that, since there was virtually no running game to speak of (remember the line holding hands?) that he was going to throw the ball. I remember a particualr game against auburn where they lined up 6 defensive backs on every play and Zeier still completed for over 400 yards. You couldn’t stop him. He had the best touch and accuracy of any UGA quarterback. We won what we did with Zeier at the helm because he was just that good.

If you want to talk smarts, easily Greene as he was the best leader and the best fake ever. Stafford, potential but no deep all at all. Throwing the length of the field means nothing if you don’t hit your target.

Zeier outperformed Manning at tennessee, although no one remembers that. Zeier was statistically the best QB in the conference but his team keep him from the recognition.

By DGrabs

February 18, 2009 9:11 AM | Link to this

DJ Shockley was better than all 3…the ‘05 season was incredible, and Shockley did more with less talent on that team than Greene had done in the 3 seasons previous to him. Had Shockley not been injured for the Florida game, along with a fluke play at the end of the Auburn game, the Dawgs would have been playing for a NC that year. Shockley is the definition of a team player, and had the legs AND the arm to get the job done. DGD, DJ. GATA!

By GeoffDawg

February 18, 2009 9:22 AM | Link to this

87dawg makes a good point. Were it not for SEC championship and bowl game stats that Manning accumulated which Zeier didn’t get to count towards his totals, he would still most likely be the SEC’s all time leading passer.

By Otto

February 18, 2009 9:27 AM | Link to this

Joe, I expect an uplift at QB, Stafford was not so great against Colorado and had his up and downs for the next few years. Stafford killed to many drives with a long ball that did not hit the target. My seats at Auburn this year were low on the 15 yard line, prime seats to watch Stafford’s ball hit the ground in front of the WR.

Stan, Stafford did not have the best arm. Zeier could equal Stafford in every aspect and on top of that hit the target much more often.

Zeier was overlooked in the NFL due to being short jsut as Flutiie was. PLenty of great college QBs have had less playing time than Zeier.

By DawgFan0711

February 18, 2009 9:37 AM | Link to this

I agree that DJ Shockley deserves a mention on this list. How many other young men have the commitment to sit at 2nd string for a few years and not get jaded by the experience, or decide to transfer to another school? Shockley kept his chin up and stuck with the team. When it was his turn, he made a stellar contribution and a lasting impression.

By Pi$$onaDawg

February 18, 2009 10:46 AM | Link to this

Maddawg Carter signed but never played, never tried to become eligible, and never would have stayed eligible at Tech. After trying baseball he knew he could not pass a class at TECH, but he knew he could get in UGA and take basket weaving to play football for the Rasist in Athens.

By GeoffDawg

February 18, 2009 11:02 AM | Link to this

So p**, you’re saying that tech intentionally recruits players it knows can’t pass its classes? Hmmm, sounds like there’s something fishy going on over on north avenue.

By Dawg_in_Dville

February 18, 2009 11:18 AM | Link to this

It’s fascinating how Greene haters are also Shockley worshipers. Hmm….wonder why that is? Greene wouldn’t have missed the UF game had he had DJ’s same exact injury. Not a snowball’s chance in hell. Shock simply didn’t want anything to do with with UF. You can’t blame him since it was his pick 6 that cost us our perfect season in ‘02.

I don’t seem to remember fans of opposing teams cheering when Greene entered back in a game like they would for DJ. If there is a most overhyped UGA QB of all-time it would be Shockley, without a doubt. Look at how down the SEC was during Shockley’s senior year. We had the most manageable season we’ve ever seen that year and we still couldn’t get over the hump. If Greene would have had one more year that would have been the season we would have played for the title.

Hey pi$$ondawg,

I’m willing to bet you didn’t even know Carter was a GT commitment until you read this blog. Remember, he was a STUDENT ATHLETE good enough for Tech. Just like they only recruit.

By HayHiram

February 18, 2009 11:25 AM | Link to this

kfc,

If a Ward or Shockley is Richt’s ideal type of QB, then why on earth did he recruit Barnes, Cox, Stafford and Mettenberger? Not to mention the nearly a dozen pocket passers we watched at FSU during the 90’s? Just curious….

By DirtyDawg

February 18, 2009 11:34 AM | Link to this

Hey Techies, don’ t go there boys. If there was ever a question about how some of the dumbest guys I’ve ever known were able to remain eligible at Tech long enough to complete all the football they, or the school, wanted, your man George ‘I’m Sorry Notre Dame’ O’Leary ended it for sure with his tenure. By the way, he never did apologize to you guys for that fiasco, did he? You’ve got different standards for athletes - particularly football players - than the rest of the student body, just like everybody else. Just try to get your non-scholarship son or daughter into Georgia or Tech without a GPA and SAT in the top 10 or 15 percentile.

By Jim

February 18, 2009 11:51 AM | Link to this

Chip _ This is an obviously difficult question to answer. First, one would have to be pretty blind not to see Stafford as clearly the most physically talented of the three choices you presented. However, anyone who has ever played competitive team sports knows that is not the only measuring stick, especially at the QB position. Ir is also just as clear that Greene was a magnificent leader. It also seems clear, at least to me, that Greene was a tremendous competitor. He often willed the team to victory. I never saw him get “down in the mouth” like Staffford SEEMED to do on occasion.

Finally, that interception statistic does it for me. Greene much more dependable with the ball. Greene has almost 500 more attempts and one less interception. This stat also verifies what most observers would see, to wit: Greene was a more accurate passer than Stafford.

Bottom line: Greene gets my vote as the best college QB as between those two.

Tough to judge Zeier because I lived in California while he played and I never saw him in person (or on TV for that matter).

Buck Belue was a great leader as well. Also a tremendous competitor. Greene clearly a better passer.

However, I must admit that no QB in UGA history was more fun to watch than Tarkenton. Plus his record at both the college level and in the NFL was outstanding.

By NateDawg

February 18, 2009 12:02 PM | Link to this

DirtyDawg,

I still tell this story any time my Tech friends like to try and debate merits of “student athletes.” It always shuts them up. I was watching a GT pregame show several years back and they were interviewing their punter out on the field during warm-ups.

The whole time they were talking with him they had a caption on the screen stating his name, year and major. Guess what this senior’s major was? UNDECIDED!!!!!

Only at Tech!!

By I-DOG

February 18, 2009 2:33 PM | Link to this

Chip,

Nice blog and links, I enjoyed all of them. On the QB debate of Stafford v. Green… it is sort of like Joe Montanna versus Dan Marino.

If you had one game to play, Dan Marino wouldn’t be a bad choice whether you put him on a bad team, an average team or an excellent team. I’d take Stafford to start a college team with any day of the week. He would give you a chance to win. Montanna won the Superbowl rings and is considered the best QB ever by most. I can’t argue with that. However, that doesn’t make Marino a bad qb by any stretch. Tough to compare because Montanna played on some truly great teams and Marino just didn’t. Green won more and that is the ultimate measure, but I think Stafford is certainly the more “talented” QB.

Zeir was everything you want in a college QB and I totally agree with the poster above that in 93 and 94 we had really bad defenses. Zeir couldn’t play defense, so there wasn’t anything more he could do to win games. I can’t think of any games that he lost where you would shake your head and say “Zeir had a bad game,that is why we lost”. Maybe I am wrong and I just don’t remember it right.

By 63dawg

February 18, 2009 3:15 PM | Link to this

I don’t believe that the QB wins or loses. Football is the ultimate team game. Greene was an outstanding college player; however, he played with some excellent defensive teams. Pollack’s memorable interception in the South Carolina game stands out, as the team wins, not necessarily, the QB or, any other player. Stafford was an outstanding college player, too. Georgia failed to win any championships during MS’ time. This does not mean that Stafford is not as good at his position as Greene. Talent wise, Stafford is as good as I’ve seen at the QB position at Georgia. Or, for that matter, in college football. He certainly has the tools. To describe Stafford as inept, or lacking in leadership, or uncommitted, is demonstrating a lack of understanding in what it takes to play at the college level. Incidentally, I saw Britt and Tarkenton, A. Johnson, and all the others who represented the University of Georgia. IMHO, Shockley can be considered along with the great players at Georgia at QB. Labeling a QB as the greatest is far more difficult than deciding the greatest RB. Don’t you agree?

By Maddog

February 18, 2009 3:41 PM | Link to this

Pi$$onaDawg, at first I thought you were ignorant. You know, talking about how dumb Quincy Carter was. However, once I reminded you that he was one of the smart athletes who originally signed a letter of intent with Tech you go brain dead and start popping off about how Quincy knew he couldn’t pass a class at Tech…blah….blah….blah. Just who were your sources?

No sir, you’re not ignorant. You’re just plain stupid!

Yeah, right, Tech goes after the smart athletes. LMAO!!!

By Oledawg

February 18, 2009 4:59 PM | Link to this

I’ve always loved our QBs with a likeable tip of the hat to Greene, especially. I took the question to mean the best QB as far as talent and production. Who would blog on here that because you liked a particular one then you dislike the rest? Probably a techster trying to start a squabble.

How many of you remember Kirby Moore? He was so bad passing that 9 or more in the box was the name of the game by opposing defenses against Kirby. But we had Jake Scott and Bill Stanfill on D and we had a lot of 1-td wins. Or by a field goal with “Spike” Jones kicking(I witnessed an 80+yd punt) that helped control opposing offenses. Then in a windswept and rainy game in Jax, Kirby only had to throw it 10 or less yds to connect(All the FU Defense was on the line) and run a huge score up to win. Kirby was not even an average QB, but with help he got the job done. Beat a “Bear” Bryant-led Bama team also.

When you asked who was the best, the answer is still DJ Shockley. Besides leading the team with his execution he could run like a tailback and had better speed. He didn’t run all the time either, but his feet kept drives going on broken plays. He had great athletic talent at his fingertips and played like a rock. I loved Greene and DJ came into some games to replace Greene. His replacement times were not headlines material because the team was used to hearing Greene’s inflections 95% of the time. When DJ had the team all to himself for one year, he was astounding. He had a sixth sense very much like pro QBs in that he “felt” heat at the perfect time in order to avoid the loss. If you have old film, it would be worthwhile to replay and watch DJ closely. These are the reasons that I think DJ Shockley was the best QB and I cheered hard and pulled for Greene in every game that he played. When it comes to being an upstanding person and loyal Bulldog there is no finer than DJ Shockley in my estimation. I hope we find other QBs like him in the future. We have had many special QBs at our University and it would be fun to see some forgotten writeups from yesteryear describing each of them in their individual character for the team they were commanding. There will never be a dull moment in the future at QB with Richt and Bobo doing the training. Haven’t you noticed that we are becoming QB “U”?

By charlotte dawg

February 18, 2009 5:18 PM | Link to this

I’ll say it again…

Greene - hands down

Stafford - not even close. How many times would he overthrow the deep ball? (not the mid-yardage throws over the middle) I don’t believe he ever UNDER-threw the deep ball. Remember, it’s like the opposite of a putt - if you leave it short it will NEVER go in. Conversely, if you overthrow, it will NEVER be caught. He has a rocket arm, but no concept of “arc” on the deep ball.It has been commented on many, many times. Look at old films and the truth will be revealed…

Good luck Stafford- keep working hard and good luck in the NFL…

Go Dawgs!

By evan

February 18, 2009 7:03 PM | Link to this

Man, this is article is a great prompt to revisit some DAWG history. I did find it odd that one of the best QBs to breath air - Fran Tarkenton - at any level was not mentioned. What’s even harder to believe is that a lot of people inside and outside UGA circles aren’t aware that he played for UGA. In fact, he’s one of only two UGA QBs to be in the CFA Hall of Fame. As for “best UGA QB”, there’s so many ways you can define it - most wins, best record, best stats, best game management, character, overall results etc etc. Here’s my thought on a few in no order and then who I think is the best:

Fran Tarkenton - 3 time All-SEC, SEC Champ. (any one is gold), Orange Bowl win, CFA HOF, All-American

John Rauch - 4 year starter in a time when it was rare, CFA HOF, won 3 or 4 bowls, most wins in UGA history until recently, career passing leader

Greene - career wins leader, probably the only likely HOF candidate for UGA out there, All-American/SEC

Belue - I was kid and huge fan of Belue but he was at best a great game manager. National Championship. Basically handed-off to Herschel. The UGA defense was awesome with some legendary players and HOFers. Lastinger was basically a clone and almost won a NC in Herschels last year. Belue is a legend but not the best QB

Shockley - one wonders what his career had been if not for Greene. Great QB but one year does not the best QB make

Stafford - bottom line: potential lost and not his fault. He never really amounted to much in any category and may make a great pro, but should have stayed another year

Personally, I’m inclined to vote Fran Tarkenton. Technically, it’s probably John Rauch.

By MVP

February 18, 2009 8:39 PM | Link to this

Rivals radio reporting Matt Stafford will not attend NFL Combine. just another over rated QB from UGA that will not make it in the NFL.Fat N Lazy. Matt will join another over rated qb from UGA, David Green that could not make it in the NFL practice team.

CHOKE…….THE OFFICAL DRINK OF THE GEORGIA BULLDAWGS!!

By GooseDawg

February 18, 2009 9:59 PM | Link to this

MVP, I REALLY appreciate your insight—excellent post; everybody that read your “words of wisdom” learned a whole lot I am certain. It’s upstanding folks like you that make the world a better place.

By GooseDawg

February 18, 2009 10:08 PM | Link to this

My 2 cents: It depends on how you define BEST? But to me, to be the best, you got to beat the best—WOOOOOOO! Thank you Nature Boy Ric Flair. Being the BEST is not about potential, or raw talent, or passing accuracy, or game management, or arm strength, IT’S ALL ABOUT WINNING!

In MY lifetime’s memory (born in 1978 but I don’t include Belue cause I was too young to remember him), I agree w/Charlotte Dawg, it’s David Greene and it’s NOT EVEN CLOSE. He was a WINNER (most in the NCAA Div. 1 football EVER folks) and a LEADER w/the hardware to prove it.
2nd - Eric Zeier (Best PURE passer I’ve seen at UGA, a leader, a game changer) 3rd - Mike Bobo (Very underrated, right behind Zeier in those same categories I listed for EZ) 4th - DJ Shockley (Could’ve been MUCH higher had his time at UGA not overlapped w/Greene’s—probably my personal favorite Dawg’s QB due to his loyalty, patience, personality, and leadership ability) 5th - Matthew Stafford (MAN, what a cannon)

I really do appreciate the older, wiser Dawgs chiming in and reminding us of the greatness of past UGA QB’s like Rauch and Fran “the Man”. Based on the little I do know about his career at both UGA and in the NFL, I have a sneaky suspicion that Tarkenton was actually THE BEST ever to get under the center Btw. the Hedges. Thankfully, we still have lifelong members of Dawg Nation to remind us of how great these “old-school” Bulldogs truly were.

Now, what I’m soooo pumped up about during the LONG offseason is waiting see if Joe Cox can pull a DJ and as a 5th yr. Senior, take control of our team which NOBODY outside of Dawg Nation (and gosh, even some of our own) is expecting much of and put together a memorable season. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, I am actually in an odd way glad that MS turned pro cause’ I have this lingering feeling that Joe Cox is gonna lead the Red & Black to some wonderful and unanticipated victories in 2009!

JOE COX! JOE COX! JOE COX!

By panama city dawg

February 19, 2009 9:15 PM | Link to this

In my early teens I was there when the best Quarterback Georgia has seen so far. #14 Kirby Moore, “ADEQUATE PASSER, PERFECT RUNNER”. Next in line, #14 David Greene, #14 Joe Cox. Old time Georgia Football coming this year. GOJOEGO!

By G8R4EVR

February 19, 2009 9:40 PM | Link to this

Hey NateDawg, Read this and then try to come up with some slobbering, meaningless comeback about the team that kicked you off the field last November. UGA even lost to the smart kids!!!!! http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/stories//2008/12/28/acadmain12283DOT.html

By Brokenknuckle275

February 21, 2009 11:07 PM | Link to this

MVP your post was correct about Stafford a no show at the NFL combine.The kid is lazy, glad to see that he is gone from uga.He never pan out to be a great qb as coach Richt expected.