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By lakerat

February 9, 2009 8:05 AM | Link to this

This year’s b-ball team is unbelievable - not even the 04 - 05 team (Felton’s second team), with only 6 scholarship players, was this bad. That team only won 8 games overall, though 4 were in the conference, so this year’s team cannot beat that record since it has already won 9 games. Wow, who woulda’ thunkit?

By Red GA Dawg

February 9, 2009 8:33 AM | Link to this

Everyone hopes the pain ends soon, Felton should be glad he does not have to endure the agony!

By reservoirDAWG

February 9, 2009 8:54 AM | Link to this

It doesn’t look like we will win any SEC games. That team is awful.

By Atlanta Gator

February 9, 2009 9:31 AM | Link to this

Chip Towers——At the risk of being severely off-topic today, here’s a follow-up to your last blog topic: over-signing football commitments.

I had a little time over the weekend to explore the NCAA website. The rules on football commitment limits, scholarship withdrawal, mid-year replacements and a variety of related subjects are codified at Rule 15.5.6 of the NCAA Division I Manual. For your convenience, I provide the following link:

NCAA Division I Manual

For anyone who wants to talk knowledgeably about these subjects, I recommend the Division I Manual to you. There were a lot of opinions expressed in Friday’s blog, accusations of cheating at other programs, and many other good questions raised. The answers to the vast majority of those questions are in the Division I Manual for anyone to read.

By Gen Neyland

February 9, 2009 9:42 AM | Link to this

It’s been good to read as of late, that CLK has distracted so many from UGA Men’s Basketball…and how about CPS getting her 1000th W..? Hurry up spring, hurry up..!

By Don

February 9, 2009 9:45 AM | Link to this

I watched the entire game and I thought I finally saw a little life in this team. The first 5 minutes was absolutely dreadful to watch but after that I thought they looked okay. I did appreciate the aggressive play of Thompkins early even though he couldn’t get his shots to fall. He was all over the boards. South Carolina could not miss a three point shot. Georgia folded the tent in the last few games but I didn’t see that in Saturdays game. If they can keep their heads up and stop turning the ball over they will win a couple of games. Except for Woodberry this is a very young team. Herrmann benched Price and Leslie for the entire game for screwing off in practice earlier in the week. I liked that move. Get your serious players on the court.

Go Dawgs!

By Red GA Dawg

February 9, 2009 9:55 AM | Link to this

Chip, thanks, this is great info, saved for reference. One note of interest 15.5.6.3.6 states that walk on’s after two years can be given scholarship and are not considered as initial counters ie 25 year limit. Not sure many of top programs have any atheletes in this group anymore, maybe kickers.

By Jerry W. Moore

February 9, 2009 10:18 AM | Link to this

Lake Oconee Dawg It look like a no win in SEC in 2009.

By Cuz

February 9, 2009 10:20 AM | Link to this

General, Coach K makes the Old Ball Coach look like Mr. Rogers. Rein that guy in before he shoots himself in the other foot.

By Cuz

February 9, 2009 10:21 AM | Link to this

This begs the question, If a basketball bounced in Stegeman Coliseium, would anyone be there to hear it?

By Ben

February 9, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this

Let’s face it. We all know how bad things are but I still think they pull out a win at some point simply due to another team simply mailing it in one night due to overconfidence.

I just want the season to come to a merciful end so we can get on with the business of rebuilding. This season is over but I’ll still tune in to see if we can pull one out. 1-15 is better than 0-16.

By gdawginkalamazoo

February 9, 2009 10:49 AM | Link to this

Screw winning during the season. Put on the afterburners in the SEC tourney and go dancing!

By GW

February 9, 2009 10:49 AM | Link to this

My fear is by the end of this season no good coach will want the Georgia job for any amount of money. It will have to be a shot-in-the-dark with a young up-and-comer from a midmajor. A very young up-and-comer. It would seem that the 2 point guards would have learned on their own by now not to dribble to the baseline, under the basket into no man’s land. The new coach will have to recruit a point guard quick.

By DawgGirl32

February 9, 2009 10:58 AM | Link to this

We’re like the Detroit Lions of NCAA basketball. :/

By gdawginkalamazoo

February 9, 2009 11:05 AM | Link to this

DawgGirl32, As a Lions fan you learn to feel no pain. It helps me out with UGA basketball too!

By miseryindex

February 9, 2009 11:06 AM | Link to this

Tennessee and Florida girls would beat UGA.

By Chapple Belle

February 9, 2009 11:08 AM | Link to this

How could Felton leave the cupboard completely this empty. That guy was a total waste of time, money, and energy. The home game in Stegeman Saturday should be free admission to anyone lonely enough to attend - hope it’s not on TV.

By Captain

February 9, 2009 11:16 AM | Link to this

Chip, I cannot see how this team will win an SEC game. The only hope is a perfect storm scanario where Georgia plays far beyond its coaching, ability and talent coupled with an opponent playing its absolute worst game possible. Even then it may take an opponent riddled with the flu for this Georgia squad to have a remote chance at winning.

This is the worst Georgia basketball team I can recall in the last 40 yrs. I challenge anyone out there to identify a worse team and God knows we’ve had some stinkers at Georgia. Given that Felton proclaimed this the most talented roster he’d ever coached (sounds a lot like Jim Donnan) what went wrong? It appears to me that there is a virtual void of talent, the exception being Thompkins. Whose job was it to evaluate talent on Felton’s staff? How in the world do they go so wrong? Are these players as bad as it appears or is the Felton coaching style such that it has drug them to these depths?

We can only hope Damon makes the hire of a lifetime as it will take at least 3 years for the Georgia program to climb out of the SEC cellar, and this team is so far below the next team above it we will need a true miracle worker. It’s bad.

By gdawginkalamazoo

February 9, 2009 11:25 AM | Link to this

Chip, just read the Owens blog. DGD he is. Will be great having him in a senior leadership position this season firing up that locker room.

By Randy

February 9, 2009 11:45 AM | Link to this

I would be willing to bet that had the UGA brass pulled the trigger and hired General Knight, the Dawgs would not go winless in the SEC.

By Gen Neyland

February 9, 2009 11:48 AM | Link to this

Cuz

Hope I’m not looking at the kid trying to make a name for himself on the playground. My advice to CLK would be to take care of the home front and let the higher ups take the reins of authority. I’ve learned to be careful what I say, ‘course I have 22 years on CLK and have let my lips sink me once or twice too. Ask my ex-wife… Have to wonder if this was an attempt to simply mark a spot in the yard of the SEC. If this had been the grand Old West, I think the Urban Cowboy would have called out CLK to a gunfight at high noon…Now, on to hoops…

By Otto

February 9, 2009 12:00 PM | Link to this

The UGA girls would beat the guys

By gdawginkalamazoo

February 9, 2009 12:15 PM | Link to this

Gen Neyland, I believe your coach just ordered a complete game by Tebow with his comments. Hell Urban may even save all three timeouts for the end of your game. LMOA!

By NewnanDawg

February 9, 2009 12:19 PM | Link to this

I think we pull a win out at some point, though none would not surprise me. Coach Hermann continues to run the same horrific half court offense that Felton ran, and the use (or lack thereof) of the bench still has no rhyme or reason. We actually do have some talent on this team. Dustin Ware makes some freshman mistakes, but shows some real talent as a passer and gets on some real hot streaks shooting. Travis Leslie is a Mike Mercer type athlete; he just needs to work hard at the mental part of the game, because it doesn’t seem to come easily to him. We have two good shooting bigs, Thompkins and Price, and 2 very physical bigs, Barnes and Jackson. I still have a very hard time understanding why McPhee is not in the game more. His defense is very suspect, but our shooting, especially from 3 point range has been aweful, and the only times he has seen significant minutes, he shoots lights out and gets us back in the game offensively.

Anyway, I believe the right coach could take this group and make it a .500 team in the SEC, not a great team, but a respectable one. It just has to be a coach that they respond to and makes the most of these players. Felton/Hermann have never adjusted their coaching and plays when they get different types of talent. I just hope we find that coach before soon enough to keep the players from quitting.

Go Dawgs!

By Rabun Dawg

February 9, 2009 12:48 PM | Link to this

Chip, has any team in the conference ever whiffed? I do not recall one, but my memory not all that good any more! I find it hard to see a win, thought maybe Auburn, but they do have a few who can score. Painful as it is to say, I don’t see a win on the rest of the schedule.

By Gen Neyland

February 9, 2009 1:00 PM | Link to this

gdawginkalamazoo

I saw the wrath of the Urban Cowboy at the last Party in JAX. To get the troops up for that one, a picture of the Celebration Dance was hung in all lockers months prior to the UGA-UF meeting. This one will be printed verbal matter and will not hold the attention of the Mighty Gators for long, unless it’s brought up before they come out of the tunnel. Dowahdiddydiddydumdiddydo…

By Joel in ATL

February 9, 2009 1:04 PM | Link to this

Who cares, aren’t you use to it, It’s UGA basketball and that’s how they like it over there. The team had no life on SAturday and it was just an unorganiized pick up game with sub par players. I’m sure Thompkins will transfer and what happen to Lesile even thouh I think he should dip also. AJax is the best big man they have and he couldn’t get off the bench at Tech so that’s saying something. Zac Swansy, gosh can we find him a D3 school to play. Price is soft and Ware is a wannabe PT Player. Heck McPhee looks to be the most confident player and he can’t get of the bench, at least let him shoot that rock at will. Woodbury is decent but that;s it and I don’t want to here about the ankle issues he has had. Gosh just scrap the season. I said a few weeks ago tha UGA would finish 12-20. I must have been dreaming that. Make that 10-22 and that’s even a stretch! Funny thing is this team would be in First place in some mid-major conference…a reflection of the coach….a midmajor guy!

How many days until spring practice is all anybody is asking on that campus now.

By Blackberry Cobbler

February 9, 2009 1:07 PM | Link to this

Will UGA win a conference game? NO

Does anybody deep down really care? NO

The state of UGA basketball is horrible- has been for quite a while, and the blame goes way beyond Felton.

Basketball is the lost sport at UGA.

By Elvis

February 9, 2009 1:34 PM | Link to this

Mark,

If they lose every game, do they get the 1st pick in next years draft???

Two words 10 times for this years roundball team:

TUBBY SMTIH!!!

TUBBY SMTIH!!!

TUBBY SMTIH!!!

TUBBY SMTIH!!!

TUBBY SMTIH!!!

TUBBY SMTIH!!!

TUBBY SMTIH!!!

TUBBY SMTIH!!!

TUBBY SMTIH!!!

TUBBY SMTIH!!!

Is there ANY chance we get Tubbs back in Athens??

By virgilshouse

February 9, 2009 1:34 PM | Link to this

ware had 10 turnovers in satuday s game has to be an sec record……..woodburry 20 thompkins 15 and swansey 13 only players with over 6 points against s carolina

By Elvis

February 9, 2009 1:35 PM | Link to this

My apolgies:

Tubby SMITH…

By DawgGirl32

February 9, 2009 1:50 PM | Link to this

Chip- I’ve been hearing rumblings (maybe from you? can’t remember) about the attitude on the team and how some really negative things have been said… Is there truth to this? Is the team basically just kinda falling apart at this point?

By Judge Dawg

February 9, 2009 1:55 PM | Link to this

How about an AJC story showing how we got here? I read somewhere that 11 out of 31 recruits transferred out. Did anyone make it somewhere else? Were the present recruits highly regarded? Whey can’t we run a half court offense? Even Gaines did not do it. It seems that there is a missing story here.

By Chip Towers

February 9, 2009 1:56 PM | Link to this

Georgia Tech was the last SEC team to “whiff,” going 0-14 in 1953-54. Lots of one- and two-game winners, including Georgia several times.

By lakerat

February 9, 2009 2:38 PM | Link to this

Judge Dawg -

Out of Felton’s recruits and of the 24 scholarships given, 4 used up all of their eligibility at UGA, one died, one was injured and quit, and 8 more either transferred outright or were asked to transfer. Out of those 8 only Channing Toney (5th year SR. now at UAB has seemingly done anything. He has started all 24 games so far for them this year, averaging 8 pts per game, 4th best on the team. Also,.Mercer got kicked off another team.

By We do NOT...

February 9, 2009 2:42 PM | Link to this

…want Tubby back! He dumped us once, so why ask again!

By route66

February 9, 2009 2:46 PM | Link to this

We have a walk on starting at one guard and a one time starter at the other guard spot(that should be a divison 2 player) plus a starting center, who seems lost most nights. This should tell you what kind of a recruiter coach Felton was and I use the word coach loosely.

By NewnanDawg

February 9, 2009 2:52 PM | Link to this

Judge Dawg,

I don’t know the exact numbers, but yes, the attrition has been way above what could be considered just “bad luck.” The ones I can think of in Felton’s tenure are Idrissi (quit), Singleton (quit), Toney (quit), T. Brown (dismissed), Mercer (dismissed), Humphrey (dismissed), J. Jacobs (quit). L. Williams went straight to the NBA, and of course, there was the tragic death of Kevin Brophy. I know I’m probably missing a couple, so your numbers sound right. I went to the awards dinner following the 2006-2007 season and a large number of the players just rolled their eyes and cracked jokes to each other while Felton spoke. Their dinners are not huge like football; you can see clearly all of the player’s reactions. I knew then that Felton was not relating to most of his players and all of the attrition just proves that point. Great coaches are like great managers; they know how to relate differently to each personality to get the most from each individual on the team. Felton never seemed to be able to do that. He had plan A and nothing else. He did some good things, but the program would never have moved forward with him.

Checked out Jeff Owens’ blog - good stuff. I hope it is reflective of the team attitude in general.

Go Dawgs!

By gdawginkalamazoo

February 9, 2009 3:46 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the good insight there NewnanDawg. Pretty much tells us the why.

By seahawk

February 9, 2009 3:49 PM | Link to this

You are right about 11 players transferring out. But, there is Steve Thomas too - a holdover from Harrick. He was dismissed within a month after Dennis arrived.

Also, Dennis fired his secretary. ACC schools have basketball call-in shows in July! I’m a 30 yr UGA basketball fan and once again have to endure life at the bottom of the heap.

By Cuz

February 9, 2009 4:10 PM | Link to this

We, the Tub left for the fabled hardwood of Kentucky and found out that those waxed floors get pretty hard when you fall on your face. He won a NC, then it was straight downhill. Heck MN is probably warmer than the last year at KY.

Just as when I was in school in the Dark Ages, the women’s B-ball team is more entertaining. Well except for the couple of years we had Dominique and the year after he left. A bunch of mediocrity before and since.

By StockDog

February 9, 2009 4:30 PM | Link to this

Georgia will not win again this season. When does tennis and baseball start.

By LADG

February 9, 2009 5:01 PM | Link to this

Tennis has started, UGA (ranked 3rd) still undefeated.

Gymnastics team still kicking a* and looking for another consecutive national championship.

Baseball’s ranked but you gotta play the games, but certainly a top-tier program.

Check out the coaches. See anything familiar? Think any of them would (a) recruit these (UGA basketball) players, or (b) put up with them?

How bad is it?

I was seriously wondering if Pat Summit would consider coaching a men’s team in the SEC.

And, it’s not about UGA. It’s basketball history or its campus.

It’s one of the greatest towns and university experiences a kid can have. Those gymnastics super-phenoms and tennis uber-kids have no problem coming here. (Debate it but, this is also true) Football players love the place — UGA has the longest current streak of top-10 recruiting classes in the nation — no matter how much flak there is thrown around every year after signing day).

And, out in the world, UGA has a significant, well-earned reputation of excellence in athletics (and academics, believe it or not).

There is NO reason basketball players cannot be recruited to that school.

To replace a football coach, what did we do? Hired the offensive coordinator of a perennial top-5 football team (at the time, FSU).

Bold action is needed. Hiring the “up and coming” young coach from State Community College and Auto-Transmission Technical School and hoping they’re an undiscovered miracle is wishful thinking and would totally fail to leverage the profile and stature of UGA in the college athletics universe.

We can do better.

By Rabun Dawg

February 9, 2009 5:15 PM | Link to this

SO, in the last half century, no one has “whiffed” in the SEC! What a great legacy Felton left us, that is if we do not somehow pull one out of where? I thought UGA basketball was bad back in the 50’s in old Woodruff Hall, but this is worse than that. At least Stegman doesn’t leak on a rainy night, or does it? Please Mr. Athletic Director, stop the “bleeding” somehow!

By Rabun Dawg

February 9, 2009 5:25 PM | Link to this

LADG, thank you. Your post was very well stated, and i think most of us would agree that we cannot take a chance on the next “Coach K”, or the like is going to pop up at some lesser known place. We need a proven winner, and we should have the resources to get that type person. The State of Georgia is “loaded’ with talent, and I feel sure that many out there know that as well. Let’s get after that person and get respectability to the program and to the UNIV. OF GEORGIA!

By AltamahaDawg

February 9, 2009 5:27 PM | Link to this

I keep looking at the schedule thinking , surely we arent going to face these pretty good teams every week, Then it occurs to me, they are all pretty good (relatively) at this point to us. Maybe AU, then maybe, as was said, somebody else is asleep the week we get them.

By LaGrangeDawg

February 9, 2009 6:42 PM | Link to this

Agreed Rabun Dawg - Well stated LADG.

Chip (or anyone else) - What’s the word with the baseball team’s exclusive contract with NIKE? Do we get to use big boy bats this year? I’m so excited about the Diamond Dogs; I can’t even wait to hear that obnoxious guy with the mullet and head phones on walking back and forth chanting “HOO, HOO, HOO,” like we’re the Georgia Owls or something. Gotta love the spirit, though. I mean, dude’s got a pom-pom and everything. C’mon, you guys know who I’m talkin’ about.

By Chip Towers

February 9, 2009 7:08 PM | Link to this

LaGrange Dawg: Dogs are stuck with Nike bats and it’s a thorny issue with DE.

By Chip Towers

February 9, 2009 7:14 PM | Link to this

DawgGirl32: Travis Leslie and Jeremy Price, former teammates at Columbia High, got into a kind of trash-talking/chest-bumping argument that started during the shoot-around before the South Carolina game and it continued on the bus back into the team hotel, as I understand it. Coach Herrmann benched them both for the game and everything’s fine now, according to Herrmann.

By LaGrangeDawg

February 9, 2009 7:20 PM | Link to this

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Thanks, Chip. Maybe NIKE’s brand new bat, that only (my Granger boy) Matt Olson was willing to use during the CWS, will do the trick. I’m guessing not, though. Oh well, they overcame it last year, and I’m still thinking we avoid the post CWS appearance slump. Go Diamond Dawgs!!

By America Jack

February 9, 2009 7:24 PM | Link to this

UGA baseball fans remember Coach Sapp? Those baseball teams were horrid and Ron Polk had UGA back in the CWS in two years after Sapp left.

It will just take a good hire by Evans to get the talent back in here. The fans will show up if the team wins. The Steg was rockin in the Tubby, early Jirsa, and Harrick years.

By Gamecock Henry

February 9, 2009 7:34 PM | Link to this

Well Well its been a while huh! We absolutely sent the mutts home packing the other night in Columbia. I also have a good feeling that our baseball will sweep the choking dawgs baseball team this year too. Which brings me to be feeling so good about my Gamecocks visiting the not so intimidating Sanford kennel club this year! The ole ball coach had a Great recruiting year while the mutts had a umm so so year. Gamecocks let last years game slip away but will be ready this year and that ole sick feeling will once again creep into the guts of dawg fans!!!!!

By Cuz

February 9, 2009 7:40 PM | Link to this

You’re joking right, this can’t be Lamecock Henry.

By IceDawg

February 9, 2009 7:47 PM | Link to this

If we finish last maybe we should get the first pick in the draft!

By Pasture Pool Dawg

February 9, 2009 7:53 PM | Link to this

Is there any hope in our golf team this year in winning a championship?

By Cuz

February 9, 2009 7:54 PM | Link to this

Henry, the ole ball coach is just that, OLD. After another dismal season in 2009, he will resign before being fired. He will then apply for section eight housing at the Bon Air Apartments in Augusta Georgia. That way he can be less than two miles from his coveted Augusta National.

By Cuz

February 9, 2009 7:56 PM | Link to this

I’ll take a double of whatever IceDawg is drinking. Here’s to you Ice.

By AfroDawg

February 9, 2009 8:23 PM | Link to this

They won’t win one SEC game, there are too many good athletes on the other squads. Georgia has one and a half players, Trey Thompkins, and Terrance Woodbury half the time. You can’t win with the weak guard play that the Dawgs have, and you’re really going to lose by not playing defense, and missing free throws.

By LaGrangeDawg

February 9, 2009 8:43 PM | Link to this

Chip - Not to sound obsessive or obtuse, but is DE annoyed with us for bringing up the issue or NIKE for not bending?

By Cuz

February 9, 2009 10:09 PM | Link to this

Obtuse, us fat people have got nuthin to do with it!

By Sam

February 9, 2009 10:32 PM | Link to this

45-42

By John

February 9, 2009 10:35 PM | Link to this

45-42

By Chuck Uga

February 9, 2009 11:15 PM | Link to this

Gamecock Henry, you are saying we had a so-so- year recruiting? No wonder C** fans are so clueless about college football. What a bunch of rednecks.

As far as UGA hoops, next year UGA will have the guards necessary to lead a highly talented team into either the NIT or NCAA PROVIDED Damon Hires Anthony Grant or another top-tier coach (certainly not retread Bob Knight or Tubby Smith-who I like, but who isn’t going anywhere).

To you 45-42 posters, four wins since 1990?! And two would have been losses had replay been in existence. Pathetic-and you know it.

By Don

February 9, 2009 11:21 PM | Link to this

The answer is AJ Green. Don’t laugh. I’m from Summerville, SC where AJ played some great football and great basketball. He led his football team to the state championship game where they lost. He carried his high school basketball team to the state championship game that they won. He is the real deal on the basketball court as much as he is the real deal on the football field. It really would not be in his best interest but the Basketball Dawgs would benefit if he was on the court. Actually, I’m willing to be there are 10 football players at Georgia that would make a better team than the current basketball team.

Go Dawgs!

By Who's Been a Bigger...

February 9, 2009 11:27 PM | Link to this

…embarrassment, the corrupt and inept Obama administration, or the new Tennessee football coaches? Imagine Kiffin calling out any other SEC coach when HE is the one committing violations? 39 of 40 indeed!!!

By Who's is Bigger?

February 9, 2009 11:29 PM | Link to this

51-7

By Gen Neyland

February 10, 2009 12:04 AM | Link to this

Who’s is Bigger?

UT’s new coaches haven’t been around the college ranks in years. They are relearning how to break the rules within the guidelines. Please be patient with them. My guess is they’ll get it right pretty soon, as have the Big Four…Thx

By CarolinaDawg

February 10, 2009 7:53 AM | Link to this

We have not had a more inept coach than Felton since the ’40s when that job use to go to an assistant football coach.

The AA should take him to court charging dereliction of duty, to stop any further payouts heading his way.

By Bernie

February 10, 2009 10:09 AM | Link to this

I guess I would take an o-fer season as long as there was reason for hope on the horizon.

Bernie’sDawgBlawg

By big dawg 54

February 10, 2009 10:44 AM | Link to this

Okay having tailgated with three huge uga flags to the SC game I was disapointed with our poor shooting. Usc was $ from 3, and we missed lay ups. Anyway, towards a new coach, the perfect situation would be hire Knight and hire Wilkins as an assistant set to take over when Knight goes. I realize without a good assitant, Knight really only brings 5-7 years, but then again if Usc can win with Horn in one year, imagine what we could do with Knight. Look closely toward Wilkins to, he wanted the job when Felton got it. With the cash flow UGA gets from sports with the greedy twins (Evans and pressident adams-total jack@$$) we can afford Knight with a good assitant. Knight brings media exposure, a solid team, and no investigations, add that with a good assistant learning the tricks of the trade from Knight and we got ourselves a team for years to come.

By Chip Towers

February 10, 2009 1:38 PM | Link to this

Sorry I didn’t initiate a new blog.

We suffered a loss in our family today. Lucy, one of our two little Jack Russells, died today. I will resume with a new blog tomorrow while checking in here occasionally today.

Thanks.

By DawgGirl32

February 10, 2009 5:57 PM | Link to this

Chip- really sorry for your loss. Losing one of your pets is really hard. They are family. You’re in my prayers.

By Cuz

February 10, 2009 8:55 PM | Link to this

Sorry for your loss Chip, pets become family members. It is a pity God did not give dogs the same life span as humans.

By bank walker

February 10, 2009 9:25 PM | Link to this

Afraid not

By Iceman

February 14, 2009 5:58 PM | Link to this

They did today…88-86 over the Gators!

GOOOOOOOOOOO DAWGS